Monster Hunter

[mighty tide]

if same slot then you'd have to have some really juicy ones to consider using htem

since most are still running 3x agitator or wex atm

[gilded wagon]

ppl using latent power rn

[mighty tide]

afaik they usually use it in combination with the rey dau armor so you generally get pretty high on its own with a couple decos already

[finite zephyr]

should be out tonight our timne, no?

[mighty tide]

In like 4 hours

[finite zephyr]

10pm ass scammer mfers

[mighty tide]

Okay, new charms are pretty powerful

powerful enough to replace current crafted charms if rolled well

even the shitty ones can be decent

[gilded wagon]

found this from rando

actually huge for chargeblade

[mighty tide]

ye pretty giga but you'd have to find ways to slot in 2x large decos to replace shit like wex or agitator

[mighty tide]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fpkamu1VzEpX8dZqecygW1GflKyvdY2975Y0d9SUt04/htmlview?usp=drivesdk

[stoic roost]

Time to do some grind

[mighty tide]

or a little

[stoic roost]

[mighty tide]

I said this in the MH Wilds Discord but like

implementation can be done better with better rates but we've yet to see what else is on the horizon in terms of additional catch up mechanics and just more drops

[stoic roost]

I mean, there's not much to farm atm, we need this in mh

Artian weapons craft needs a fix tho ngl

[finite zephyr]

The game is dead because they've made rates on everything way too high

there's nothing to grind for

if you wnt to cheat your shit in that's fine, people have done it for ages

but it destroys the longevity of the game

People are so fixated on having perfect gear that they've the ability to enjoy the build up to it

if they need a wex 2 oo and they get a wex 2 o they aren't happy

because it isn't perfect

There's no marginal improvments

it's just baseline > endgame gear perfection

No killing rathalos 47 times beacuse his 2% gem carve is fucking your ass

Just "lol gem investigation now i have 10 of them"

[stoic roost]

Gem reward on investigation killed the rarity for them, not sure I like it lol

[finite zephyr]

I hate it. Absolutely terrible change. Same when they made all rewards viable through capturing in world and capturing gave more rewards

we need carve only rewards back

In trying to cater to everyone they've catered to no one

[stoic roost]

It's the elden ring of monster hunters

[mighty tide]

eh i'd like carve only rewards only if the main body carve has a very slim chance regardless for other parts

cuz it fucking sucks if you wanna play, say, hammer

and you have to pray some ls player comes along and targets the tail

or just swap to the weapon you don't enjoy nor have the gear for

[finite zephyr]

You can just use another weapon. That's what people did in the previous games

that's why most peopple learned to enjoy other weapons

cause they were forced to play them

[stoic roost]

Yea we can swap weapons mid fight now

[finite zephyr]

This "lolw everyone spam on their skull" shit didn't start to world

[stoic roost]

[finite zephyr]

you would never see a fucking cutting weapon on the head of an enemy in 3u/4u/gu

Another change that made the game worse by making it easier because why look at hitzones for your damge type when you can ape the face and tell the other player to slot flinch free

which also didn't used to be a thing

so you HAD to spread out

[mighty tide]

eh

while an interesting mechanic that moves players around the monster

i think it just became a hindrance considering a lot of players just went for the flinch free option when given the chance

doubt even hardcore players enjoyed that shit

[finite zephyr]

Only because they put it in. In games where flinch free is not an option

people played around each other

because they had to

[mighty tide]

did they enjoy it? probably not

[finite zephyr]

yes

people literally had quick chats for it

there is nothing fgun about 4 players apeing the head

[mighty tide]

idk i still think your old man brain is just looking back at all the old jank of monster hunter and looking at em with rose tinted glasses

[finite zephyr]

I still play gu monthly

there's no rose tint

[mighty tide]

thinking that every player should be forced to run wyvern eggs for 3 hours a day

like i understand and find these mechanics interesting and it cool to work around it and have everyone work together to make it work

having chats to call out positions, etc

that's cool for the first couple times

but then the novelty of it wears off for me and i get annoyed doing it everytime

[finite zephyr]

No, it's cool always because you can easily tell who is good and who isn't. It's a form of skill expression

[mighty tide]

tedium does not equate skill expression

[finite zephyr]

you get annoyed playing the game properly and being rewarded for you using your weapon on the correct area?

rather than just hitting the head?

i'm sorry how does that make any fucking sense

it's not tedium

going "i'm a cutting weapon the tail takes more cutting damage i'm going to hit the tail" is not tedium

going "let me move away from the head so i dont interrupt the hammer who is going to stun"

is not tedium

it's literally a skill

[mighty tide]

no, the part of knowing where to attack the monster with the knowledge of weakpoints is skill expression

[finite zephyr]

being a braindead trog who just stands on the head and interrupts everyone around you is tedium

and those people would get kicked

[mighty tide]

forcing players to play with 1 person in every cardinal direction is tedium

[finite zephyr]

That's not at all how it worked

but ok

you could have 2 people next to each other hitting the same part

you could have 4 hammers hitting the head

because they wouldn't use idiotic sweeping attacks

and interrupting each other

it's literally skill i promise you

i've played the old ones

all of that kind of shit being gone is why wilds is in the dumpster

[gilded wagon]

JUST USE THE SKILL

i forgot that retard skill name

[finite zephyr]

They've watered the game down the most generic bullshit

flinch free

[gilded wagon]

ye

[finite zephyr]

They took away every single source of "tedium"

and now there's no friction

[gilded wagon]

its nice to have flinchfree during main story

[finite zephyr]

and look at how many players play

none

because the game is a literal joke

[gilded wagon]

meanwhile those retard do less dmg when hitting head

to interrupt everyone else

[finite zephyr]

They even removed fucking launches

from most moves

even though you could literally use them on purpose

to get mounts

[gilded wagon]

hey my wyvern blast still knock them down

[stoic roost]

The expansion will fix everything

[finite zephyr]

Combat in wilds is literally just "mash whatever you want do whatever you want and you'll win"

[gilded wagon]

tail? hzv? what is that

[finite zephyr]

There's no thought there's no strategy there's no anything

[cinder creek]

Anyone with a guard button is also super safe now cause of perfect guard

[finite zephyr]

Don't even get me started on the dogshit "super moves" like what kinsect glaive has

that absolutely do not belong in the game

[cinder creek]

actually had me switch from gs to gl

[stoic roost]

I'm Lance main

[gilded wagon]

remember when ppl still hitting you during guard animation and you got animation lock from it

[finite zephyr]

Yeah didn't they remove that too

[gilded wagon]

they just did

[finite zephyr]

man i died during safi multiple times to that shit

[gilded wagon]

only when you wear the gem

[finite zephyr]

someone stunlocking me on a lance

[cinder creek]

[gilded wagon]

doing cb combo and somehow got into guard from guard point animation

retard ls

bitch @tulip tendon

[mighty tide]

I mean at a point it just feels to me that you want a Tarkov version of Monster Hunter

where each hunt takes upwards of an hour to do

[gilded wagon]

nope

[finite zephyr]

No, i want a monster hunter version of monster hunter

you haven't played the old games

[gilded wagon]

mhrise is more arcady

[finite zephyr]

you are just making wild "lol hunts should take an hour"

[gilded wagon]

but didnt simplify down too much

[finite zephyr]

hunts take 10m on 3u

hunts take 7 minutes on gu

[mighty tide]

having hunters communicate throughout the hunt, luring monsters into traps, using barrel bombs ontop of a pitfall with a rock overhead from the environment

[finite zephyr]

but everything about the combat feels better

[gilded wagon]

wild also do that

but ppl just ignore it

[finite zephyr]

I mean again you keep defending this game

yet this game has the worst dropoff of any MH

[gilded wagon]

since most ppl are braindead

[finite zephyr]

there's a reason

and it's not because the game runs poorly

it's because the game lacks any fucking monster hunter feeling

[gilded wagon]

AT uth duna is suck af

hard hitting fish jumping around

bad design

[mighty tide]

i defend it because everytime you bring up old mechanics, to me it just turns me off from playing the game

having to fight my character for control is the worst feeling ever

[gilded wagon]

meanwhile elden right nightreign do better boss design than this crappy AT

[mighty tide]

i hate that whenever i play any game

[finite zephyr]

Nobody is fighting their character for control

you ahven't played

so how can you even make conjecture like that

you can't

[mighty tide]

I have tried older ones on the PSP cuz I owned em

it was painful fighting the character to do what I want it to do

I want to hit here

[finite zephyr]

yeah and yet notice i'm not referencing 2006 mh games

I'm referencing ones from the past decade

[mighty tide]

no I have ot fight the character to move him here to hit

[finite zephyr]

you're talking about a game that's literally 20 years old

as a reference point

there's been 20 years worth of MH games between that

yeah no shit nobody wants ps1 mh using the right stick as an attack button

but people want the game to have adversity

and difficulty

and things to do

and friction

clearly

that's why they're playing other ones and not wilds

[stoic roost]

Rise is the first weird mh right

Started all this shit

[gilded wagon]

not really?

[stoic roost]

[gilded wagon]

i dont remember which one start the stance

and special move

rise is just improve that and turn into silkbind

[mighty tide]

I can understand the points on certain jank giving some form of cooperation through forced gameplay like moving players around the monster, but to me that isn't the proper friction you want.
You want players be forced to learn through experimentation, force em to learn each monster like its the new raid boss. And with how players are, there will be people who won't care and will tank the experience for 3 others in a lobby, like any MMO raid

[gilded wagon]

no

ppl just want it more less simplify

no one against the focus cam

only the focus and wound stun lock

mount is nice

auto pathing also

but having it unlock at start of the game

kill the exploration

[mighty tide]

Wound is overtuned for early game

like genuinely going back to LR and low HR monsters

you can pop em like crazy

[gilded wagon]

still overtuned even AT

[mighty tide]

eh stuff like Rey Dau's guaranteed wound is true

[gilded wagon]

if you can manage and actually aim to different spot

[gilded wagon]

every tempred have guaranteed spot for tempered wound that can stunlock them

[boreal crane]

Generations was, unless you count the mmorpg mh frontier which also had some weird stuff and weapon types i wish i could actually try

[stoic roost]

[gilded wagon]

with solo you can manage and open wound much easier

[boreal crane]

But that still depends on what you consider weird, cuz mh tri was the first to introduce underwater combat, which was also weird and very much not well received lol

[gilded wagon]

even as coop you still try to aim for different spot

not just attack at same spot like braindead ls

[mighty tide]

oh that yeah, but I mean shit like Rey Dau having a free focus strike after firing his railgun, or Arkveld's chain slam

[gilded wagon]

bitch @tulip tendon

that one is nice addition

and have cd interval

[mighty tide]

rn its rough getting the wounds and they're not a reliable stun lock in most cases

[gilded wagon]

it still not

each wound have cd interval after you pop it

[mighty tide]

you'd still need to properly stagger em and at times its impossible to do it perfectly

sure you get one or two stunlocks, i'll give you that

[tulip tendon]

?????

rent free

[gilded wagon]

you cant even get out from first town

[mighty tide]

but its akin to opening a fight with debris in teh scarlet forest waterfall area

once that is over

what you got left

[gilded wagon]

then you dont know how topple and wound managing

[mighty tide]

i know wound managing but maybe not as specific as you are trying to describe

and topple I understand the base level of it, but I don't know what's the internal counter that causes it

Cuz to me, its just reading info from a data miner and being like, okay, if I hit 10 attacks on the head with my gs, then hit 20 times on the wing, after he gets up ill hit the 11th swing on the head and stagger again

[gilded wagon]

each part have it own topple value
and you can stack them up during topple'd animation
but when you reach it during animation it wont proc

so solo ppl know how many hit does it need

and do the atk after the monster get up to do topple stunlock

[mighty tide]

getting a feel for it i guess

i play mainly party play so i dont get that feel outside of group content

i know approximately how many hits or when a monster will go down to stun but i dont track that

[gilded wagon]

this clip might be better for picture

https://youtu.be/RV7Oeswm2lg?si=YvAYD0uzBW9wRvEV

[mighty tide]

nor do i count for topple

[gilded wagon]

you could see him go for different part after popping the wound

to do stun lock

wound work semi same with topple that have it own value when you atk the monster enough

[finite zephyr]

GU tehcnically because of the hunting styles

but most of the hunting styles just limited your skill set and gave you alternate skills

[gilded wagon]

but much easier to manage than topple

[mighty tide]

ye i see it

though I doubt I can put it into practical use

[gilded wagon]

again in solo it is much easier to manage

[mighty tide]

fair

[gilded wagon]

coop the value got multiply also

but it doesnt mean you can do it in coop

IF brain ppl know how to play around

they will wait and pop it to do stun lock also

again IF

[mighty tide]

I like multiplayer over solo because the game is more fun for me

solo is when I wanna practice a challenge

[gilded wagon]

for pratical scenario is

see white scar (tempered monster)

keep hitting it

it have like 2-3 random spot on monster

once you pop it

go for another spot

[mighty tide]

hm I try to pop wounds and just do as much dmg before focus striking

do that even in challenges

i don't go around creating wound after wound because focus strikes break all of em, which are decent chunks of dmg and helpful meter gain for some weapons

reason why I said it can be inconsistent since I remember hitting the head of Arkveld after mounting

tried to break the head wound for a stagger

and another wound on the head appears

so like

-1 wound

[gilded wagon]

arkveld is actually easy to make the wound

ok i found another clip about topple

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93E3P5AJoNc

this shit have kinda low topple value af

[mighty tide]

not so much for head smashing hammer

i rarely get wounds for chainblade

[gilded wagon]

you can see him go for SAED after monster get up to do stunlock

that is how you stun lock in old mh

[finite zephyr]

nergi is cheating

since you can abuse the spikes

[gilded wagon]

in wild is just easier to manage bcuz wound

[finite zephyr]

[gilded wagon]

hold on

what is that wind dragon

[finite zephyr]

amatsu?

kushala?

[gilded wagon]

kushala

gs stunlock

[mighty tide]

unironically this vid makes me think "This is just FSR spam but with extra steps"

[finite zephyr]

world cb was a travesty

[mighty tide]

i love how he combos the attacks together

[finite zephyr]

i dunno how people enjoyed that shit

[mighty tide]

that is what I wanna do with cb but my hands are shit

[gilded wagon]

it is

[finite zephyr]

saed saed saed saed saed saed saed saed

[gilded wagon]

but fsr is more dumb

[boreal crane]

ngl, i am happy they removed SOME friction sometimes though kushala daora was just not fun to fight at all in previous games

[mighty tide]

oh yeah

[gilded wagon]

you build up guage and spam 1 move

[mighty tide]

that's why I said

FSR but extra steps

[finite zephyr]

any poison users

[mighty tide]

CB combos look so good

[finite zephyr]

i think world was the first one that poison didn't remove the aura

[mighty tide]

I wanna be that smooth with charging and morphing

[finite zephyr]

but we also had infinite flash stuns

[gilded wagon]

also neo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJmh5Gal4hE

this is another topple stunlock

[mighty tide]

OH YEAH

[gilded wagon]

that mf head have that low value

[mighty tide]

I wanted to show you guys this clip someone made of the recent LS buffs

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1182391530032468029/1405145766187634698/iss.mp4?ex=689dc379&is=689c71f9&hm=368bd549af75fbd37317a4ef41dc1ee55fefa340464c15014c4ecd79c511f9bb&

[boreal crane]

" please break the horn so we can start damaging him "

[mighty tide]

even I think they overdid it

[gilded wagon]

what

the

fuck

[finite zephyr]

and then too

i think tail was only cuttable

[gilded wagon]

that is not fix

[finite zephyr]

below 30% hp

[mighty tide]

"slightly increased the window"

🤏

[boreal crane]

that kinda seems like you can actually react with it???

[mighty tide]

bro he got hit then parried

[boreal crane]

that's like a bug right

[mighty tide]

almost a full second after

no

that's them increasing the window

[finite zephyr]

the window should end as soon as they get hit

if they wanted to increase the iwndow they should have made it pre

[boreal crane]

i don't get it, why would they do that

[finite zephyr]

not post

because LS players are retards

[mighty tide]

there was a delay for iss iirc

which was a bit buggy

[finite zephyr]

world parry is huge too

[boreal crane]

you can literally reactively parry after getting hit?

[mighty tide]

they fixed that delay

but i think they overcompensated with the buffs

[gilded wagon]

they cant fix the desync

[mighty tide]

giving an extended window

[boreal crane]

man i like longsword but boy ls players not beating the allegations huh

[finite zephyr]

shit is literally handheld

braindead combos

[mighty tide]

admittedly i cant play ls

maybe with controller

[finite zephyr]

answers for literally everything

[mighty tide]

but its rough with kb+m

[finite zephyr]

wait you play on kbm?

yikes fuck that

[mighty tide]

ye

[boreal crane]

i played around with it a bit, i thought it was actually ok

[mighty tide]

controller would unironically help me play shit like ls better

[boreal crane]

i mostly tried it back when i was playing IG cuz IG controls with the held button were ass

[mighty tide]

oh and hunting horn

cuz the kb+m default for iss and the echo bubble are like

R + Spacebar

which is wildly inconsistent at times

you can hotkey em into 1 button but they play out in sequence so sometimes you may not have your echo bubble or you might be recovering from get up

and when you hit the hotkey

you just do a dodge roll

but for every other weapon than those 2, its fine on kb+m

CB on controller would be as difficult as kbm for me because of how many button combos you do for each chain, and I struggle with that

[gilded wagon]

not really

[mighty tide]

Combos for charging everything from shield to axe and morphing just loses me

my hands get lost

[gilded wagon]

Y and B button are close to each others

but maybe i get used to pressed it with other game

[mighty tide]

its Left + Right for kbm

hotkey'd to Mouse 4 for ease of use yet still get lost

i just need to spend time in practice

[gilded wagon]

gj dev

[mighty tide]

im gettin gud with em

[mighty tide]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5E7Vs2f1IQ

Hammer next in line as Jo was editting that recently methinks

[elfin plover]

https://tenor.com/view/catskip-begone-silence-gif-4476322385021962517

[keen swallow]

https://fixvx.com/monsterhunter/status/1957473035885121806?t=9uzZVa3gDOtmn2Rfy3zLcg&s=19

Monster Hunter (@monsterhunter)

To our hunters playing #MHWilds on PC, we're committed to listening to your feedback and improving both performance and stability of the game.

Although we will continue to implement gradual improvements in the weeks ahead, we are targeting Free Title Update 4 this winter to implement a multifaceted plan, including CPU and GPU related optimizations, followed by a second stage of mitigation measures afterwards.

We'll share more information on the specifics in the future.

vxTwitter / fixvx · Aug 18, 2025, 4:01 PM

[acoustic topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-my-mom-is-kind-of-homeless-speed-holding-in-laugh-hold-in-laugh-speed-hold-laugh-speed-gif-9800342524516138403

[keen swallow]

Imagine if they committed to listening to us instead of shareholders

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[finite zephyr]

yeah i don't believe in it

games performance is atrocious beyond fixing

[keen swallow]

They're begging for the upgraded engine to release

[finite zephyr]

Porting to a new engine takes years even if it's an upgraded one. No way they're porting to whatever is still being made

maybe if they get quin on the case

[mighty tide]

i mean this is basically what I assumed would happen

rather than putting out the fixes on time, they hamfist everything into one big bundled update because either they don't want to deal with the hassle of small hotfixes that would interrupt daily operations, or its some bureaucracy bullshit that's pushing everything to a deadline rather than putting it out in a timely manner

[random zealot]

I can give capcom an easy way to increase performance, drop denuvo

[gilded wagon]

ive read the another problem with it

it got another anti cheat built in

[finite zephyr]

guitar event starts tonight

[keen swallow]

let me know when the better performance event starts

[mighty tide]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL3SqhJdDWo

Hammuh

[stoic roost]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca1iBhq-C90

[finite zephyr]

@gilded wagon oh is that why you were talking about darkknight?

this shit is gonna run at 5fps

[gilded wagon]

yep

[chrome anvil]

@bright nimbus ONYX TERPSICHORE

[bright nimbus]

[lapis maple]

Dead game

[ancient helm]

[mighty tide]

did it pass?

[gilded wagon]

savage version confirmed

sns and ig

[stoic roost]

https://info.monsterhunter.com/wilds/update/en-us/Ver.1.030.00.00.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zp59JDo2BkM

[sly phoenix]

tbn better in mh than in ffxiv

[tame kestrel]

that tbn looks cool

[gilded wagon]

but set effect is ehhhhhh

it is tied to 4set effect

[gilded wagon]

watching ppl fighting it

kinda insane fight

[tame kestrel]

oh it's out

idk if I wanna play again

kinda interested to see how different savage will be

[cinder creek]

im hopping on to get the armor

[gilded wagon]

either playing it now along with hype or wait for next month seasonal event

[cinder creek]

capcom broke reframework and now i cant use the buster sword mod

https://tenor.com/view/bo6-bo7-richtofen-call-of-duty-cod-gif-18383999575535843376

[sly phoenix]

mustard bomb being exactly like charybdis and just as annoying

[gilded wagon]

https://fixvx.com/with_arutorasu/status/1972510213363425425?t=LwFO4VTnoiWsY2H_8Z8XbA&s=19

ミムス (@with_arutorasu)

これが「トップクラスのガード性能」を持つ武器らしい
※ガ性３ガ強３です
#オメガ・プラテネス https://t.co/mS5X6AoEJI

▶ Play video

vxTwitter / fixvx · Sep 29, 2025, 3:54 AM

no shield cuck allow

(except there is a healbot for you)

[sly phoenix]

it's cause he's got a gun on his lance instead of doubling down on poking

wait nvm he just got rolled

[gilded wagon]

maybe that is why in patchnote they say they buff lance movement

[sly phoenix]

he kept running out of stam

[cinder creek]

this shit hard af

[gilded wagon]

i might pick sns over gunlance

[sly phoenix]

savage is a bullet hell

so many lasers and circles coming at me

[sweet kiln]

savage is nutty

bro jumps around a whole lot

the biggest issue tbh is the arena hes so clunky to fight and just backs his fat ass into a corner

[mighty tide]

i think you really just need one person to grab enmity and play like your average mmo party

tank has to maneuvre the boss in place and dps follows

[boreal crane]

Wait that actually looks fun as fuck

Is it a time limited event? If so i might need to check it out too

[finite zephyr]

probably like worlds behemoth

[gilded wagon]

said permanent

[boreal crane]

That's nice, i'll play it with the expansion then

[sweet kiln]

you mean when its trivial lmao

[mighty tide]

ye spent like

6 hours on Savage Omega

reached phase 4 and people drop from there

normal omega i joined a fucking party finder and got it first try

[finite zephyr]

about the same as behemoth

regular behemoth is a joke and you can ignore most mechanics

savage requires actual builds for it

even with mrank behemoth can still walk you if you dont play the fight correctly

[sweet kiln]

the fight isnt hard even

its the arena that fucking sucks

[mighty tide]

yeah i have noticed the people i ran with, even through LFG had questionable builds

[mighty tide]

yep my same argument

when he starts charging

its impossible to properly set him up without something going wrong

[sweet kiln]

its just what i said b4

bro backs his fat ass into a corner

and u cant fight him its a death trap

[mighty tide]

fucking jin dahaad doesn't even do that

its his own arena

and he stays mainly in the center

though I will say

I ran a ton of normals with this one lance main

and with enmity, omega doesn't run off as much

so yeah, you NEED to fuck with enmity else it seems omega is programmed to be a bitch about it

also in the MH Wilds discord, people complaining the fucking NERSCYLA dps check is too short

one savage run, 2 people got cc'd by the marlboro, me included, and we still cleared it at 50% charge

[sweet kiln]

yeah i was

he still runs off anyways

i was fake soloing it with npcs cause he scales anyways

[mighty tide]

yeah a lot of people say the support hunters are the way to cheese the fight

alessa perma spawns shields whenever omega gives her the chance and kai is like a typical healer bot with perfect inputs

[sweet kiln]

yeah only concern would be there damage

and hunter pie isnt working so i cant see shit

[gilded wagon]

so many ppl didnt respect the boss at all

keep drop mustard bomb at middle of room

and some mf ran into the beam that im tank and blocking it

[mighty tide]

for normal its a new player thing

in savage, everyone respects that shit

but it just hits so frequently

[sweet kiln]

MH players not beating the allegations

[gilded wagon]

sns still try to block every shit despite the dmg chip still a lot

[finite zephyr]

perfect guard is a retard mechanic

should only exist on lance

[sweet kiln]

nah the chip is nothing

use gaurd + up

[sweet kiln]

any1 running savage

this is impossible with randoms

you can potentially solo but u only get 1 life

[sweet kiln]

has anyone gotten their mods to work btw? i cant figure out the frame work

[stoic roost]

check the comments on reframework on nexusmod

theres a link to github there for the updated file

[sweet kiln]

yeah shits back now

dont need github

[gilded wagon]

i might need to make td build

shit looks fun + survivability are nice

pugs dps are ass af

#bringbackstickylbg

[sly phoenix]

i was so close twice

last phase on savage is so hard cause of the MRV missiles

[mighty tide]

3rd phase spawns a shield generator for 1 person to use on their slinger

if you lack shields, you can spawn one for MRV

[sly phoenix]

nah it's cause it'll MRV every minute or two at the last phase

there's not enough shields

it also drops parts in the 4th phase

[sweet kiln]

i killed it

it took me almost 30 mins with the npcs

but because they dont die it made it easier lol

this shit took me all day man holy fuck im free lmao

[sly phoenix]

SOS is like a mix up between people who'll heal each other whenever anyone gets hit and people who are under prepared

[latent elm]

Im still catching up on old hunts

People said to just support hunter the new ff14 shit

Sos is grief

[sly phoenix]

ye support hunters is way easier cause someone needs enmity

and they can't cart

[mighty tide]

well no

cuz you need 8 clears to get everything

[sweet kiln]

fuck u dad!

[mighty tide]

think 2 clears each for both SnS and IG

[sweet kiln]

nah im good

i killed him once and just bought the shit from the shop lmao

[mighty tide]

yeah this fight is a one and done for me, im gonna go with support hunters and just dps the fuck outta the leg

maybe do more normal fights

but not savage

[sweet kiln]

thats what i did its still like

kinda hard tho ngl

cause he can 1 shot u in phase 3 like no matter what

his damage ramps up so much form P 2 to 3

but now MH fellas cant say wilds is easy anymore lmao

[mighty tide]

I got him down to a science with my db

[sweet kiln]

oh yeah

i ran SNS the block is 2 good imo

[mighty tide]

its just his charge that i suck with

[sweet kiln]

i think in this fight tbh you NEED a fast weapon

[mighty tide]

I might go SnS if i struggle with npc

[sweet kiln]

or u get animation locked into bullshit

[mighty tide]

I've done runs iwth hammer

the issue isnt animation

its the fucking hitbox

you have 4 spindly legs

[sweet kiln]

the issue is hammer sucks

that thing is just awful lmao

[mighty tide]

the body hits for nothing

its super high up so you can't really touch it

like with other monsters, even steve

you can hit parts of him that isn't effective but you're still hitting him

with omega, its either the underbelly or you whiff

[sweet kiln]

yeah

u dont touch omegas body

[mighty tide]

more like you can't

its just out of range

[sweet kiln]

i cant even imagine hammer on this shit i ran it once with xeno he was suffering lol

[mighty tide]

hammer you need to run evade window and maybe extender if you aren't comfy with wire dodging

its very doable with wire spam

you charge into wire spam and do hit and runs with mcu

[sweet kiln]

its just not good like in this fight u either bring a shield or u go a fast weapon

or u can do bow guns

[mighty tide]

every bowgunner ive met has just shot the body

like fucking SHOOT - THE - LEG

[sweet kiln]

lol

yeah for like the easiest shit

bring a shield guard up and u chilling for the most part

[latent elm]

Are there wipe mechs like behemoth

Or is it just a harder regular fight

[sweet kiln]

yes

theres a dps check

if u cant beat the ad in time u wipe

[sly phoenix]

3rd phase has a wipe but it's pretty easy

[sweet kiln]

it does? i didnt see one

or notice it

or do u mean the ad

[sly phoenix]

i find that if you make it to 3rd phase with randos you can make it to the final phase otherwise it's hopeless

ye

that's phase 3

[sweet kiln]

yeah the ad has 10k hp but u got 2 mins to kill

sometimes its rough

20k

[sly phoenix]

i just throw on rocksteady during that part now

[sweet kiln]

yeah u could

[cinder creek]

its doable with gunlance but u have to stick to short combos during phase 3 -4

for gs u have to play draw but its sleeper af with out world tcs slingshot

[sweet kiln]

yeah gun is good but long animation can be risky

[cinder creek]

yeah but its nice to get agro on demand with wyvern fire but then again phase 3 - 4 you just die if u stand still for even a second

[sweet kiln]

yeah my buddy was running it today seemed good

but be mindful of animation lock into bullshit lol

[mighty tide]

@sweet kiln first try with support hunters, got to skull lol

farthest of any run i've done

[sweet kiln]

yeah its night and day

[mighty tide]

i think i fucked up at the end cuz the back 2 legs looked broken so i focused the front even in pantokrator

[sweet kiln]

compared to the current pugs

[mighty tide]

but apparently

you can still wound those 2 back legs

[sly phoenix]

ye you get 3 carts vs randos stealing them all

[sweet kiln]

the fact they dont die makes all the diff lmao

and u get 4 if u uhh

get the revive insurance or w/e its called

[sly phoenix]

insurance

[sweet kiln]

yea

[sly phoenix]

and with guts from the at rey set it's like you have 5

[sweet kiln]

lol

i was using like

my basic crit sns build but i swapped out 2 dps gems for gaurd 3 and guard up 3

[sly phoenix]

omega also has giga thunder weakness

so you do like double dmg with thunder ele

[sweet kiln]

really? like i know he does but hes also weak to dragon

is it that much diff than dragon

[sly phoenix]

ye a saed got like 9k from a cb player

he's super weak to thunder

[sweet kiln]

in that case maybe i'll try making a thunder artisan tmr

cause im still helping friends clear

[sly phoenix]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/MHWilds/comments/1nty9rd/charge_blade_looking_real_weak_against_omega_lmao/

[faint light]

TU3 sounds like a good time to come back

[sweet kiln]

i'll try this tmr then

omega is a sick fight tbh

worth doing

[sly phoenix]

ye omega's a good fight

[faint light]

is omega a permanent event quest or is it like the other temporary stuff?

[sweet kiln]

but ehs very hard

[sly phoenix]

less annoying than extremoth

permanent

[sweet kiln]

u wont do this ina few tries

[faint light]

sounds good. ill wait till after im done playing ff tactics

[sweet kiln]

yeah

next TU is in december

[faint light]

was planning on waiting for that especially with the performance update they mentioned for TU4 so I can play with some of my friends who cant play wilds

[sweet kiln]

yeah its still pretty unoptimized

it doesnt run bad per se but it COOKS my GPU

like i gotta turn my fans power up to almost 80% to stay around 70c

[faint light]

but i like that they actually made omega kinda hard. im reading all the noobs complain on reddit

[sweet kiln]

they said MH was 2 easy

now its 2 hard

[sly phoenix]

ye cooks my cpu

only game that runs 70c

[sweet kiln]

what u running

i got a 3060 ti

[mighty tide]

i think i get why the boss is so bad

its programmed to keep a certain distance away from players until enmity is established

i've noticed this so many times

everytime alessa grabs aggro the fucker just stops moving

but the moment it drops, he keeps backing up 5 paces away from the nearest player

eventually just planting his ass inside the wall

[sweet kiln]

personally

i feel its the arena is just bad

[mighty tide]

yeah i give

4 times to skull

but always

ALWAYS

this fucker plants his ass into the wall

on my last run, 3rd phase, after he delta attacks and before he jumps down into the pit, half his body was off the map

half his fucking body off the map

that is stupid

arena still feels fine its just his AI

I suspect its gotta be some mix of aggro fuckery, cuz other monsters hold aggro just fine

but Omega swaps aggro almost instantly, like there's a 5 second script running to overwrite his aggro each time until enmity is established

causing Omega to literally spin and swap targets like an ADHD kid, forcing everyone to chase after his limbs and the slow tank to grab the head

[gilded wagon]

nutty

[mighty tide]

read above

omega is tough, but the constant movement, the fact he phases into walls is bullshit

can't reliably lure him like with other monsters

enmity only lasts for so long before he starts spazzing out

you'll see when you try him

actually Savage omega

not regular omega

[faint light]

i mean its just gonna be like fatalis/alatreon. you'll have to learn their bullshit and how to punish them

and the constant movement isnt much of a problem for sns/db

[sweet kiln]

you cant really '' punish'' omega lol

[latent elm]

I have meta set from like TU1

I think pierce was nerfed tho

I looked up one of the new meta sets and supposedly spread is meta

Options are slug out normal and extreme with current gear or try to get lagi pants, seregios hbg, and roll a good amulet

[mighty tide]

there is no punish

well tehre is

but its VERY dependant on the people you have with you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YX-XkbOlvA

this is a very aggressive setup they ran

the first couple phases are the ones where you can realistically punish

[gilded wagon]

isnt spread still awful to play

[mighty tide]

but the rest requires teamwork to actually create wounds

and you have to pray this fucker does not move

like I'm watching someone do Alatreon

and each attack has a cooldown period before the next, a roar or even just the animation of alatreon winding back his head

Omega has NONE of that, not to mention his hitbox is like a fucking noodle

appreciate the shitty mspaint but like

every X is where you can wound him

you can wound two parts of his leg, his shins and the upper hind

but weapons like dual blade and sns won't hit the upper portion

only ls, sns and ig with their vertical attacks will hit and they won't do it as often as required

and the legs are fucking tiny, with omega being able to do a complete 180, forcing you to swap sides constantly

hell even fucking Alatreon has a stagger mechanic

Omega requires you to heavily damage a single leg for it to fall over and stagger

otherwise its just a minor nuisance

[faint light]

has anyone killed savage solo?

or is it like behemoth with no solo scaling

[mighty tide]

solo with support hunters afaik

it has solo scaling but its VERY aggressive

its created to be like the ff14 raid with the intention that you have a tank, healer, dps combo

hitting its head generates "Enmity" or aggro which forces a lot of the attacks to be directed more onto the player with it

[gilded wagon]

saw some jp done it with like almost 30 min

[mighty tide]

^ max timer for Omega is 35 min btw

[faint light]

just like fatalis

wouldnt ls be very good against omega since you have a lot of counters

[mighty tide]

you'd be hit out of your counter

i kid you not

you would counter and the animation would play but you'd more likely get hit a second time

[faint light]

what about sns? its counter is kinda fast

[mighty tide]

idk about sns

[sweet kiln]

sns is one of the best weapons for omega tbh

[mighty tide]

ye its mobile and has guard

[sweet kiln]

high damage fast af small animations easily cancelable into block

[mighty tide]

you'd survive but imo the dmg will be lacking because you just don't have the sticking power imo

db i feel at least all your attacks just move you from combo to combo

sns is like, shit the boss shifted its leg, gotta cancel and move

[sweet kiln]

db is fine but i wouldnt use their skill

combo takes 2 damn long

not for this fight

[mighty tide]

wdym too long?

[sweet kiln]

u do 3 reps of that shit

[mighty tide]

no like

[sweet kiln]

omega is already doing stuff

[mighty tide]

the attack where you dual swing and sping your blades around you

that locks you in place?

that long ass combo animation?

[sweet kiln]

whatever triangle and circle is called

[mighty tide]

ye there's a faster combo rather than doing the entire thing

[faint light]

demon dance

[mighty tide]

ye that's the name, you skip the first part of demon dance

you just Blade Dance 1 > Demon Flurry 2 > Blade Dance 2 > Blade Dance 3

[gilded wagon]

you cant really guard against it that much

[mighty tide]

each point in that combo moves you up til blade dance 3

[gilded wagon]

dmg chipped is crazy

even on lance

[faint light]

perfect guard

[gilded wagon]

yep

[mighty tide]

https://www.twitch.tv/peppols/clip/RichPreciousLasagnaPlanking-pgHaJRX8YbSQzE_l

@faint light

like look at the amount of attacks thrown out

[faint light]

that fire is such a troll

[mighty tide]

that was a b2b cross btw

[gilded wagon]

yepcock

[mighty tide]

the boss randomly chose to do that

Savage does a X pattern twice, three times in final phase

[gilded wagon]

db is crazy with sergios(?) set

[mighty tide]

as you saw, the boss can just say "Imma cast this 4 times"

[mighty tide]

steve ye

[faint light]

i mean he died from the fire puddle not the boss moves

it looked doable with the counter with that pattern at least

[mighty tide]

but this boss you want Rey Dau y + Lagi db or a perfect artian

[faint light]

this boss will force everyone to use more defensive skills like fire res and divine blessing

[mighty tide]

https://packaged-media.redd.it/ya4155jdu1sf1/pb/m2-res_480p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&v=1&e=1759240800&s=124a00cec97437a9003ff1038fc9083e5a58a19a

[gilded wagon]

im tanking with divine blessing and i dont notice shit from it

maybe it is good for non tank

[mighty tide]

genuinely the boss is fine with its moves, like everything can be dodge and you can survive half of em, not many 1 shot you

the issue is you combine them with you being at the whim of the AI using their abilities and its movement

its tendency to back away from players when using the laser and charging/jumping across the arena

[gilded wagon]

yeah that one you dont wanna block shit

except you are a perfect guard god

[mighty tide]

it makes it feel liek you're fighting gore in the tiny arena

he's just constantly in a wall

constantly charging you into a corner

and you can't use lure pods

so good luck moving him out if he plants his ass there

35 min timer btw

[faint light]

i was gonna say just use lure pods but

[mighty tide]

cross fire looks doable, but when half his body is in the wall and your valid attacks are his legs? haha

his attacks are pretty much Zoh Shia's claw smashes

you just can't dodge out of the way and retaliate

most of the time it just makes you sit there waiting

[gilded wagon]

tl;dr grab db and just dodge every shit

[mighty tide]

dude i kid you not, the iframe dodges saved my ass so many times

[gilded wagon]

did they buff the iframe dodge or smt

[mighty tide]

idk

[gilded wagon]

i remember when you go blue mode (i dont remember the name) the iframe is somehow shorter

[faint light]

i remember seeing it in TU2 that the db dodge got buffed

[mighty tide]

you'd have to ask someone else, im not reading into the frame data that much

[gilded wagon]

yeah i think they "buff" or fix the iframe

that somehow lower

[faint light]

yea its in 1.021 patch notes

[mighty tide]

so duration only

[mighty tide]

well regardless

come back to us when you try it sprak

its definitely something you have to see for yourself

[latent elm]

support hunters my beloved

the regular one is like

90k HP solo

140k with 3 support hunter

[mighty tide]

think its 180k with 3 players

[latent elm]

i took damn near half hour on the easy one

💀

how do you unlock extreme

if i was to even attempt to solo i think it has to be spread

i wouldnt be able to do pierce if i had aggro the whole time

max might is like dead for hbg in this fight

i think they also nerfed it again so theres 0 grace period

[sweet kiln]

omega?

its in event tabs

it was just there after normal

[latent elm]

bruh

the fucking npcs

dropped mustard on me

this ai gettin too realistic

[mighty tide]

my tip for dps players hugging the leg is to unironically look down

change your camera to like a top down view and just toggle focus to stick on the leg more effectively

its not like you have to look at the boss to know what he's doing

[latent elm]

damn

i cant do enough dps for the damage check

for giga laser

[sly phoenix]

ye that's why i rocksteady now

otherwise the asshole knocks you around

[latent elm]

does he only do wipe once

i might just eat the cart

i think i can still be on track to finish the fight before timer runs

[sweet kiln]

once yes

[latent elm]

support hunters are kinda goat

[sweet kiln]

if u wanted too u could also bring 2

and keep cat for auto revive and shit

[latent elm]

ill give it another stab

then its bedge

[sly phoenix]

i think it gets buffed if you don't kill nerscylla though

[latent elm]

yeah i think i need to upgrade my gear first

i just got 100-0ed through guts

idk how

maybe guts isnt active if you dont have cat idk

[sly phoenix]

you can still die to fire

[latent elm]

no i legit

100 to 0

from a single ram attack

like fresh out of spawn

[mighty tide]

Normal omega or savage

What armor you running

Full upgraded?

[latent elm]

savage

im running the old set i think it was like 3 or 4 pc gore and 1 off set helmet

all max

From a post of a guy that did solo savage with just the cat

The spider has 11k

In solo

And he couldnt kill it

If i shave off 2 minutes for mechanic and other bs

I need to average 91 dps to kill savage

With 3 goobers i was doing about 40/60 on normal

So about 37-40 personal DPS

[gilded wagon]

fucking spider is rng bitch af

i get it now why ppl just bring rocksteady for it

[gilded wagon]

https://youtu.be/F2ylgW4fJCg?si=bnAa7SGtvI-NoTCH

wanna try ls but i will fck up the counter anyway

[sly phoenix]

ye you gotta land ISS otherwise you get destroyed

foresight doesn't have hyper armor after you land it so you just get hit again

[latent elm]

Ppl carting on tempered seregios like the new gore

I just need a fkn mantle

[chrome anvil]

become the solo gamer

[mighty tide]

To be fair tempered Steve can be rough when he wants to be

[gilded wagon]

solo with npc

[latent elm]

i cant cuz i dont have any investis

[sly phoenix]

solo's so much easier can't get any clears when joining sos

[sly phoenix]

holy shit pubs is doable, all you have to do is queue up into a bunch of japanese salary men who have played monster hunter all their life

[latent elm]

its not even that hard of a fight

the stupid seregios

just stop full committing to every combo every time

zzz

[sly phoenix]

i meant savage omega

i was grinding it for like 2 days with pubs since i already cleared it solo

[cinder creek]

people are dying too much on the URV move

they keep blocking it

its litterally gonna chip you and die unseath and run away please

[gilded wagon]

fucking uncle mod and show it on stream

[elfin plover]

https://tenor.com/view/stress-cat-gif-25121868

[latent elm]

holy shit ancient chinese magic

there is a chinese recoil down mod for hbg

welcome back worlds HBG

[cinder creek]

man fuck the earings

im never doing that again

japanese business man queue is never happening again

[sly phoenix]

i need one more 2.0 for everything

[gilded wagon]

i gonna int with bot

[sweet kiln]

max is getting FUCKED up by normal mode lmao

[unkempt grove]

@sweet kiln has leveled up! (64 ➜ 65)

[sweet kiln]

i dont think hes gonna actually get to savage

[cinder creek]

we need to kill the guy who made the gem drop rate

2%

[gilded wagon]

they fulfill @finite zephyr wish

make it grindy

[cinder creek]

i just wanna move on from this game and get the sexo outfit

[sweet kiln]

fuck drop rates lol

i just kill fella then use the shop to buy w/e i want

aint no way im bouta kill savage 10 times or w/e

[gilded wagon]

i forgot how many time we need to kill behemoth savage

back in world

just once?

[gilded wagon]

their dmg is kinda low also

10 min to reach phase 3

i do think lightning weapon is kinda mendatory, dmg difference is a lot

[sweet kiln]

yeah

in world idk i think id id behemoth once

2 long ago

[gilded wagon]

it is funny

i run with my gf + 2 npc

lance and olivia

got better clear time than pugs

[sweet kiln]

yeah

pugs are very very bad at this fight

most wont even clear

they gonna wait till expac get gear trivialize then say '' i beat savage'' lol

[cinder creek]

ive been farming the normal one for a gem evreyone can clear it

just not the savage one

[gilded wagon]

they choked

[mighty tide]

hot take

Carver meal

unless you're already using it then

[cinder creek]

i already have it

i also used my vouchers

well i got 1 i just need 2 more

[gilded wagon]

ppl clearly didnt respect when oemga using msv or that dancing shit move

[cinder creek]

Yeah msv is super dangerous

if u dont unsheathe in time

u are just dead

[sweet kiln]

or call chicken

[gilded wagon]

just runaway

even when im using td/ds

when i notice he go crazy mode i just call chicken and ran tf away

[gilded wagon]

max clear with npc

[cinder creek]

https://tenor.com/view/bo6-bo7-richtofen-call-of-duty-cod-gif-18383999575535843376

let me go bro

[latent elm]

are there only 3 weapons

from omega

[finite zephyr]

yall mfers play a grind game

then get mad when you gotta kill something 10 times

[sly phoenix]

ye 3 weapons

[cinder creek]

okay i got evreything

logging back in when they release the new monster or the earth shattering greatsword

[mighty tide]

the bad grind is made worse when the boss doesn't have like a tail to cut

like at least you can get extra carves from that

omega doesn't have that and most of the drops are from a rare stagger that does not happen without coordinated play

[gilded wagon]

[mighty tide]

yknow

I think omega would be 10x easier if the first couple head wounds just gave you a shield generator instead of spawning it

[latent elm]

You know omega would be easier too if

Flayer wasnt a skill designed by retards

And just worked on all hits instead of some esoteric nonsense

[finite zephyr]

flayer is a cringe skill

and wounds are cringe

shouldn't even exist

[gilded wagon]

https://x.com/lutyrannus/status/1973812260855558594?t=qQ11mctffdXpBCHTVW4_1w&s=19

Lutyrannus (@lutyrannus)

X · Oct 2, 2025, 6:08 PM

[finite zephyr]

Sir this is Wendy's

[gilded wagon]

solo(with npc)

25 min

[latent elm]

Spread is fucking wack

I cant use max might since you need to spacebar to reload instead of playing normally

So stam always below max

[gilded wagon]

drk sword is

[latent elm]

alright time for the secret weapon

hope i get carried by nihongos

And play wide range

[cinder creek]

manifesting business queue

[latent elm]

I need to get lucky and roll a decent talisman

Its like 4 extra utility points for armor skills

[sly phoenix]

[latent elm]

wow its that easy

just dont play during NA pepega hours

autoaccept room

only 2 carts and we had insurance

[latent elm]

wtf is this bow privilege

[ancient helm]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/53-67UsXOsU?feature=share

@tulip tendon

[tulip tendon]

[gilded wagon]

[sly phoenix]

just a regular charm bro