it just essentially tells how to differentiate real quests
#Monster Hunter
mighty tide
and by putting this out there, they've basically covered their asses
now when a ban comes out, they can point to it saying "We told you so"
mighty tide
poggers
chrome anvil
bright nimbus
west thistle
cinder creek
oh yeah the sunglasses are staying on alma
elfin plover
stoic roost
event up 
young granite
mighty tide
oh wait nvm its in bounties too
Do the daily and then equip 4 pc
This gets the ticket and bombs as rewards
finite zephyr
yeah that's how it's always been with event stuff since world
mighty tide
yeah that's how it's always been with event stuff since world
well some of us didn't play worlds 
elfin plover
cinder creek
Do the daily and then equip 4 pc
wtf
i played world but ignored the event stuff so i also didnt know this
finite zephyr
mighty tide
https://bsky.app/profile/matpiscatella.bsky.social/post/3lniauh36tc26
hmm makes me wanna see numbers for ac shadows even more
if its ranked at #2
finite zephyr
Anyone at this poitn whot hinks AC:shadows failed
is just a moron
is it enough to save ubi? i have no idea but the game itself was clearly successful
mighty tide
Iunno, I still have the feeling it was unsuccessful or at least it was over inflated on both ends, with doomers posting how it sold 0 copies and the fanboys just hyping up ac shadows like it sold record number of copies
but all of it is just speculation from me, so im just waiting really
Is this sales number based on how many actually bought the game
or just how many people own it
does it count refunds or do they ignore that
elfin plover
You could say any game sold a lot with 0 sources or any proof
mighty tide
You could say any game sold a lot with 0 sources or any proof
I mean the proof in that image is that the company that did the data collection is seemingly an established gaming analytics company
so unless their data is skewed, I wonder what'll happen
latent elm
KCD2 sold about 2.75-3m copies
MHW sold 10m
I could believe shadows being 2nd
Though probably closer to KCD2 because they haven't said anything every since what, 3 million player announcement unless I missed it
elfin plover
We'll see when they actually say how many people bought the game
gilded wagon
mighty tide
ok
after a few hours with CB
I'm getting used to getting up into power axe mode and cycling the charges
i need to just improve sword combos
finite zephyr
doesn't everyone in the quest get a crown?
gilded wagon
yepcock
gilded wagon
ye
that person MIGHT got a confusion that
only a person that capture got the crown
gilded wagon
exotic oar
gilded wagon
3pc reydau Y 2 pc fulgur anja for giga maximum might?
if you getting used to maximum might without fulgur set
you can try 4pc raydau
higher dmg than gore when you can proc latent power
ignore thai text
gilded wagon
problem is you need to take dmg to proc it firdt
cinder creek
especially for gs
gilded wagon
so its not that comfy
cinder creek
Rocksteady and pray you dont die 
gilded wagon
130hp
cinder creek
i do be getting hit alot in the fight so i migh be able to proc it
gilded wagon
almost 1hp bar
cinder creek
Dosen't the group skill help
cinder creek
is there a cooldown to it
gilded wagon
it should be just like
cinder creek
it leaves u in 1hp but idk if its a one time thing or has a cooldown
gilded wagon
cant proc during the buff
and maintain forever
but you could proc it immediately after expire
cinder creek
i wish there was timers for the buffs so we can know
gilded wagon
L1/LB show it
cinder creek
latent power?
cinder creek
ill log in after unpaid work
gilded wagon
mighty tide
The only hard thing about AT Rey Dau is how you can't blind him out of the sky
so he just constantly runs away
thorny pollen
mighty tide
I hate farming this Rey Dau
its either people dont have the camp near his initial spawn
or people who join my quest but spawning at the base camp which is like the opposite of where Rey Dau is
finite zephyr
X
young granite
mighty tide
mistiming counter
no lightning resist
playing ls
no like
i've had builds with pretty mid roll on lightning res
and still get clocked over the head with that
like sure, if you go all in on defense you will live and never die to AT Rey Dau
but it feels like unless you go the entire way with full divine protection, stun resist, maxed lightning resist with hh, you don't survive the 2 hit combo of that
gilded wagon
but it feels like unless you go the entire way with full divine protection, stun...
i got hit by lot of shit with 3 lightning res deco
i never got 1 direct lightning hit and stunned like that guy at all
also ppl forgot mega armorskin exist + food that increase element resist
mighty tide
also ppl forgot mega armorskin exist + food that increase element resist
I went normal armor skin and you do get afflicted with Thunderblight regardless
and it stacks fast
and the railgun is effectively a guaranteed stun once its on you
gilded wagon
and the railgun is effectively a guaranteed stun once its on you
the big one yes
small one like in the clip? nope
mighty tide
the big one yes
small one like in the clip? nope
that isn't small tbh
the railgun that he uses as the rises off the ground has a fucking huge aoe
gilded wagon
for me that is small one
big one i meant is the one that he will stop moving after using it
which one shot most ppl
mighty tide
that big railgun that leaves him open imo is the huge attack that no one should ever get hit
but this one that he does when getting off the ground is extremely easy to get hit by especially if you're focusing on the head
because you have very little warning and I believe requires Evade Extender to roll out of the range or Evade Window to give more iframes
latent elm
rey dau is giga tanky
do you only get 1 Y ticket per run
i did 2 but to craft full set i need 3 more runs which is legit anothr 45 min
gilded wagon
if you lucky can get additional drop
gilded wagon
that big railgun that leaves him open imo is the huge attack that no one should ...
you could say that
i still see mf ls carted to it 100% rate
to at the point where i just do 2 ppl run with my gf 
latent elm
the pugs i did at least didnt fail
one guy carted once
its not like mizu where you fail half the time
but i was playing at like 2am so i was getting jp lobby
gilded wagon
i play 2 am jst
1 weeb ls with jp name carted from raygun
so far i still think tempered kirin is worse
dont even need to compare to AT version
mighty tide
i did 2 but to craft full set i need 3 more runs which is legit anothr 45 min
reminder you also need like 6 more for talismans
3 for defense talisman and 3 for latent power talisman
chrome anvil
URGENT: COAL MINERS NEEDED
mighty tide
gilded wagon
i dont think we need both of them anyway
anytime sooner
might be like after we got stupid fatalis set again
elfin plover
gilded wagon
@mighty tide about lightning resist i have like 29
https://streamable.com/uc5y6g
that one is big raygun one
ppl who keep dying is literally never respect AT and equip 0 resist gem
lapis maple
Gumi…
simple mist
kanjers . . .
lapis maple
kanjers . . .
I wood neva btw
finite zephyr
gilded wagon
potential sf6 collab
mighty tide
potential sf6 collab
fist weapons in mh when
gilded wagon
solar coyote
i like heavy bowgun
solar coyote
is there a way to increase ammo i can bring
cant even inflict poison that much
need like 4-5 hits
and if i do proc poison does hitting it with 1 ammo reset the poison duration
cinder creek
i think you dont have to put the ammo in your ammo slots you can still put ammo in ur item slots i think.....
i didnt play bowgun in rise so 
solar coyote
ill try it later when i get home
finite zephyr
You can only put ammo in slots but if the ammo requires combining to make you can put the base items in and combine them
with them letting you "return to camp" at any time there's no real ammo concern
cinder creek
oh shit the scarf is here
mighty tide
Time to boot up mh
bright nimbus
helldivers collab 
chrome anvil
😭
mighty tide
helldivers collab <:PagMan:825292390323060746>
that'd be wild tbh
super powered monster hunters beating down bots and bugs
meanwhile you got airstrikes coming down on rey dau
gilded wagon
fist weapons in mh when
now 
hollow coral
cinder creek
https://youtu.be/z8PuMP606LM?si=2XuCnTE6Wl6Y8WwC
wtf not reskinned sword and sheild
finite zephyr
a-coomer using a gun just looks stupid
mighty tide
a-coomer using a gun just looks stupid
Imagine him spinning around with the bow
finite zephyr
I do wonder how his punches will work
we did have the fireball projectile in world i belive
but it did like 5 damage
mighty tide
For all we know it could just be joke weapon dmg
Maybe high ko similar to hammer
But otherwise no damage
Someone was already doing a kick only run with MH Wild
GS Kick only
gilded wagon
I do wonder how his punches will work
i saw the post said it scale up to your current weapon
gilded wagon
the dlc gesture also scaled dmg
ancient helm
bright nimbus
that zinogre kinda sick
chrome anvil
drop 80k on one of these !
bright nimbus
mighty tide
<:WOWERS:455451092377927681>
store it in a bank and have it mishandled by employees 
finally para nerf
sick obsidian
mighty tide
the 3rd line im not sure what they mean
Also the 3rd line just means we can do Upswing and cancel the animation with an evade
this'll be nice for atriax
so far a neat update with a collab
cinder creek
daammmnn they are adding a follow up for hammer offset
p nice after getting hit by ground explosions after the 2nd offset
mighty tide
p nice after getting hit by ground explosions after the 2nd offset
the issue with hammer offset isn't that you get hit or what not
its just that you offset monsters
and then you have to walk up to them
by the time you do that, they're already off the ground
so like the only reason you want to offset is just to get the hyper armor
cinder creek
oh yeah thats also a problem
not a fan of the easier slide change tho i never wanna spin most of the time
mighty tide
not a fan of the easier slide change tho i never wanna spin most of the time
easier slide?
i think they just let you cancel it
cuz it would lock you into the slide attacks, making terrain like the desert fucking annoying
and that one slope in the forge area and wyveria
hate those areas as a DB cuz you would ALWAYS slide when attacking
cinder creek
that one side in zoh shia nest
yeah and the dessert
also im not sure about what they made in the slide easier
its so vauge
🦆 🚬
jp devs
bright nimbus
Free damage
stoic roost
Lance bois 🫡
mighty tide
Okay after fucking around with the Akuma shit
its sorta still a joke weapon
you do decent damage but its like
its great for non tempered or easy fights
its a clunky but fun way to fight monsters
mighty tide
sounds like a hammer
not really
the clunky part comes from you having to use an item to get into the "Akuma mode"
so like your combos will be :
Item > Triangle > Triangle > Triangle > Item > Circle > Circle > Circle
and you have to refocus if you get knocked down to use the Offset/Focus Strike
stoic roost
tulip tendon
Dead channel
boreal crane
ngl i dropped off wilds so hard that i probably won't even touch the game till the expansion hits
it's probably the least i ever played a monster hunter game
finite zephyr
Too much automation
They removed literally everything except the combat you might as well just have every quest be an arena quest
Sad because the world is gorgeous and there's so many little interactions and level design that just completely fucking ignored because hurr durr chocobo
boreal crane
seems i'm not alone either, there's more ppl on world rn than wilds and i think wilds 24 hour peak is lower than world's has ever been in the 6 years it's been out
and that's coming off a massively more successful launch too
boreal crane
i just quickly ran out of things to do
finite zephyr
They just way overreached when trying to attract casuals
boreal crane
if i don't have a goal i typically lose interest and i was alrdy quickly running out of steam making builds for random weapons i barely cared about
finite zephyr
And instead alienated their core users
Oh and the new gem system
Holy shit it's so bad
boreal crane
tbh i feel like the gem system is hated in every monster hunter lol
finite zephyr
It is but giving them weapon or armor only designations is such a misplay
Trying to make the system easier
But instead just severely limits builds
boreal crane
oh i thought it was just about the acquisition which i thought was mostly just business as usual in the tedious department
but i do agree with making them limited to weapon or armor is ass
mighty tide
Me personally, as the first MH game I got into, I'm very thankful for the Focus mode because that was the main issue I had with old MH, the janky feeling of trying to yank the camera and player to hit where you want to hit. It made the game very skill expressive, sure, but I wouldn't be playing as much without Focus imo
And one criticism I have is the overly streamlined build system. Feels very same-y across the board for every player, with some very niche builds but even then they incorporate the same core skills everytime. It might be the case with Worlds and past iterations but you can also argue that with guides and such being more prominent, people will look up "Best build XYZ", "The strongest setup!1!!111!!", "The only build you ever need!".
chrome anvil
i definitely dropped way more hours on base world than base rise or base wilds
rise at least had apexes for "muh endgame" and grinding talismans if you want to include that
stoic roost
leaks* ?
finite zephyr
||the second monster is seregios||
boreal crane
i'm pretty interested in lagi tbh, but idk if i care enough to play the game again for it
chrome anvil
zinogre deviljho seregios lagiacrus shagaru magala and gogmazios
TIME TO TICK ANOTHER TWO OFF THE LIST!
tulip tendon
IM GONNA PLAY!
tulip tendon
No
stoic roost
keen swallow
Title update: still performs like hot ass
tulip tendon
it's all Atriax's fault
mighty tide
I feel sad about people reviewing the game negatively but I understand em 
finite zephyr
go play world
mighty tide
Call it what you will but for a first time MH enjoyer, this was a fun game to get into
mighty tide
idk, the only thing that turned me off from MH was the unresponsiveness of the weapons
finite zephyr
The first time going through the ancient forest in world was fucking mesmerizing for me as someone who has played most of them
was truly amazing seeing it transform
mighty tide
I hate that in games where it just won't let you work your character like you want it to
finite zephyr
idk, the only thing that turned me off from MH was the unresponsiveness of the w...
this isn't really a thing in world
most of that comes from 2 things
not being able to roll backwards
and cardinal only movement
world fixes both those
mighty tide
Fair, cuz my first interaction with MH was the PSP and DS era when I got em when I bought those handhelds
it felt painful to control and move about
finite zephyr
yeah world doesn't have that. if it's on sale i would genuinely implroe you to check i tout
there's a good reason why it has more players than wilds
mighty tide
Yeah, I just wish Wilds wasn't such a shitshow where everyone keeps bashing it
finite zephyr
https://info.monsterhunter.com/wilds/update/en-us/Ver.1.020.00.00.html
This is exceptionally weird
mighty tide
I get performance issues and the dripfeeding of content but some shit like how little content it has on launch honestly pisses me off when people compare to finished life cycles of older mh games
finite zephyr
I get performance issues and the dripfeeding of content but some shit like how l...
The problem is the game is too easy there's nothing to grind for
mighty tide
they have always updated on thursday between 8 and 10 eastern
wasn't the update meant to come out on the 28th
finite zephyr
even in base worlds where we only killed 1 monster over an dover the game was harder than this
mighty tide
was it harder or just grindier
finite zephyr
there was no "black diablos" wall in this game
it was sligthly grindier, but it was more difficult
people got fucking WALLED anjanath and black diablos
mighty tide
Well let me play devil's advocate here and put forward a few things
would you say the people who got into Worlds were newcomers which is why they were walled at those bosses
finite zephyr
base world also didn't have the problem wilds has of every weapon spams 1 super move
finite zephyr
would you say the people who got into Worlds were newcomers which is why they we...
Some, sure
but wilds has outsold world
so that same problem should have existed here
but it doesn't
wounds are wallbanging (from world) but on steroids
and most people hated wallbangs
mighty tide
would you also say that Worlds taught the devs to not put hard walled content because they noticed a substantial decrease in playerbase because they couldn't overcome those walls?
finite zephyr
No, because the longevity of worlds probably beats every other MH by a mile
things like alatreon were crybaby fests for multiple weeks
until people got good and beat him
"wahhh he's not balanced for elemental GS capcom sucks"
turns out they did balance him for that you're just bad
mighty tide
Alternatively, do you think having more resources online made people better faster rather than fragmented communities when Worlds was out
finite zephyr
No, the same content creators still exist then for the most part as far as guides are concerned
it's been the same core getting quoted since like mhdos
mighty tide
i make that comment because we have seen people hark that Dark Souls back in the day was hard but nowadays people have so much resources to learn and improve that you hear less and less of how super hardcore the games are
finite zephyr
If we were to use quin as a baseline then yes wilds is too hard
but i don't think quin counts
mighty tide
and most people hated wallbangs
Wasn't the agreement that Wallbangs were mandatory because if you didn't interact with them, the fights took longer to do and it was a conscious decision by the devs to include "The player will definitely use wallbangs" in rebalancing monster HPs?
finite zephyr
No, that's becusae of the dogshit wound mechanic brought in with iceborne from clutchclaw
they made hitzones much worse so you had to wound to do decent damage
fights go way too fast with wallbangs
because they are % hp
mighty tide
So if people didn't wallbang it would be fine?
but wallbangs just made fights too easy?
finite zephyr
even if you didn't wallbang you had clutch drool
i don't even remember what the official term was
but they literally added a monster state speciifcally to clutch claw it
i just want MH to be MH
not flashy anime hunter
gilded wagon
there is a fan mod to kinda rework the balance around
mighty tide
which weapon you think is what represents what you want in the game, aside from GS
cuz when you think MH you think GS
gilded wagon
cb
mighty tide
positioning, true charged slash
gilded wagon
sa
gilded wagon
honesty
mighty tide
and I get that, I did the 1 trick pony SA
gilded wagon
wild murder old weapon playstyle
wild encourage more 1 move spam
over using different move
mighty tide
idk what the old weapon playstyles were which is why im asking
mighty tide
I know a lot about Hammer and while you do end every combo with MCS, you have a fuck ton of ways to get into it
and there are moves for optimally tackling each situation
finite zephyr
I don't think GS represents what i want in the game at all
GS has counters
it shoulder tackles through everything
mighty tide
a casual can easily do the base combo but mastery over hammer lets you do a lot of moves whenever and wherever
finite zephyr
it's everything i think is wrong with modern monster hunter
and that is that you're able to completely ignore what the monster is doing
mighty tide
I don't think GS represents what i want in the game at all
They definitely did something with GS in Wilds with how they sped up everything from what I learnt
the counter spam, the tackle to cancel charge slashes
gilded wagon
and that is that you're able to completely ignore what the monster is doing
this is the main point tho
mighty tide
but at the same time, if I were to play the GS
gilded wagon
you basically dont even know what monster doing at all in wild
mighty tide
I would play Wilds GS cuz I would miss the fuck out of every swing in older games
finite zephyr
monsters have just become punching bags
mighty tide
gun to my head, force me to play one GS and I would pick Wilds cuz that would make my life easier
gilded wagon
it still funny how ppl complain only 1 monster being overpowered
i even forgot that one name
finite zephyr
The hardest fight is gore magala and that's just because you can't fucking see
mighty tide
oh another point, do you think the devs are just easing players into high end content or refusing to just drop those hard walled content
gilded wagon
yeah gore
finite zephyr
oh another point, do you think the devs are just easing players into high end co...
Given that they streamlined everything
it's that they want the game to be easy and accessible
giving us a mount that auto takes us to the monster
putting hot/cold "items" directly in every single room
where you need them
gilded wagon
even AT is still considered easy
finite zephyr
having your camp items be teleported into your bag
gilded wagon
compared to world
mighty tide
Yeah I do wish there was more agency in prep work
mighty tide
I did research on shit like min maxing items and found out you didn't really have to do much
not much prep was needed
finite zephyr
They've given players an answer to literally everything that is basically "you'll always be able to do damage"
which was not the philosophy previously
it was very much a chess match of "your turn, their turn"
and you would try to bait specific moves
gilded wagon
I did research on shit like min maxing items and found out you didn't really hav...
breh you dont even need to use atk/def potion buff at all
in wild
finite zephyr
to this day how many people know that you can tell if rathain is going to stop charging based on how much her legs bow
probably none
because there isn't a need to look at animations like that anymore
mighty tide
which charge
finite zephyr
her double or triple forward charge
mighty tide
the tail spin?
mighty tide
oh that charge yeah i never noticed the leg move
finite zephyr
SHe's had it since 3u
bright nimbus
buuut yeah you had a lot more to work for in world
the super good tier armor that btfo every set didn't start coming out until kulve imo
or at least the weapon
finite zephyr
Behemoth armor in base world
gilded wagon
nergigante being gatekeeper even in lowrank
finite zephyr
Also lechen
gilded wagon
specific way to counter each elder dragon
finite zephyr
Super fucking hard
bright nimbus
then the final uber base-endgame for pure damage was behemoth
finite zephyr
Extremoth
gilded wagon
some cocksucker even justify that we got same amount of monster update like world now
ppl should stop complaining
like
chrome anvil
behemoth armor........ classick
mighty tide
some cocksucker even justify that we got same amount of monster update like worl...
My only argument point when people compare Worlds to Wilds is how people view post Iceborne Worlds vs launch Wilds
gilded wagon
who even use mizitsune set
mighty tide
that gets me fucking annoyed
gilded wagon
My only argument point when people compare Worlds to Wilds is how people view po...
nah we dont even get to that point
someone already post the base world update timeline
still got way more
mighty tide
iunno, with them testing underwater shit with lagiacrus, there may be more to come
chrome anvil
who even use mizitsune set
nobody, never
gilded wagon
zoh shia is nice and a bit fun to fight
bright nimbus
and that fight was pure ass
gilded wagon
but thats it
chrome anvil
actually i take that back, i think soulseer mizu set was good for gunner if i remember
chrome anvil
bro people that got pub carried on hr50 kirin
shouldve got the rope
damn cheaters
mighty tide
we'll see
maybe we'll get more polarising content down the line once they've decided that the playerbase has been adjusted or some shit
not like hard wall difficulty content but moreso content that gives more playstyle options alongside balancing
example being Rise Swaxe vs Wilds 1 trick pony swaxe
would love if you got different playstyles for em
finite zephyr
We don't even have rainbow palette for doing all side quests
mighty tide
We don't even have rainbow palette for doing all side quests
Don't worry, they'll put in a tiny little charm for your efforts 
You now regain control of your character slightly faster after starting a quest.
jesus finally
The hit boxes for certain attacks, such as Big Bang, have been adjusted.
no more hitting the fucking wings when I wanna slap their heads
Removed the skip function from important chat notifications and made it so that the map can now be opened even while the notifications are still active.
gilded wagon
oh right
even how muxh they buff other move
im pretty sure LS still spam same 2 button
same with SA
mighty tide
I mean those are fine for me
having basic entry level "this will be enough" combos for players who do not want to be that hardcore is fine
gilded wagon
problem with it is
almost no room to improve dmg
mighty tide
again like with Hammer, as long as players do good enough MCS combos, its fine by me
gilded wagon
retarded way can do best dmg is just bad design
mighty tide
there are room to improve tho
Longsword has parries they can constantly do to keep the assault going
there is move optimisation and learning patterns of monsters
mighty tide
you CAN do the crimson slash spam and that is fine by me
that is the entry level shit
when you WANT to do better, you learn to do the same moves that Peppo does
Hammer, you can just spam 1 button into MCS
but learning when to offset, optimal move and timing
learning when certain attacks can fit in a pattern or not
learning when you can use spinning bludgeon instead of running away because of hte little movement you get while spinning
fucking that move also does the best elemental damage out of all the others because of how many times it hits
To me, Wilds has a good amount of "Do this combo to be good enough" type shit that balances out with "If you want to be a master and improve yourself, you learn to do more than good enough"
gilded wagon
when you WANT to do better, you learn to do the same moves that Peppo does
this is always 
just do what god tier ppl do
helm breaker spam should be another decent dmg also
but rn counter is just for iframe dodge
not for gauge that much at all
mighty tide
this is always <a:ELCLASSICO:1246261239961747546> just do what god tier ppl do
idk, my point being is that you see how people like Peppo can optimise movement, and that is the skill ceiling people should strive for, not the requirement that they need to do to be effective
gilded wagon
my point is ppl always use someone as excuse
but for just optimal way that ppl could do is limited to 1 spam playstyle
and it is wild problem
SA from using bunch of move (and retarded clutch claw spam)
to FRS spam
mighty tide
fair, maybe its just how I play that I want to optimise and improve my gameplay to be above average and some people view the average as a stopping point.
gilded wagon
cb from you doing build up combo to SAED spak
spam
to just use the chainaxe
yes you could still SAED spam but not consistent at all
mighty tide
CB is a good example in my eyes
optimising the animations to get in and out of sword and axe
gilded wagon
chainaxe is satisfy to play at first few time
then you notice how ass to play as aolo
mighty tide
everyone just charge shield by holding it
mighty tide
not many properly weave in the shield bash to speed it up
and how you can perfect block into axe into sword n shield into a slide slash into double slash
then you just shield bash to charge your shield into another double slash for your full phial setup
gilded wagon
those cb moveset was highest learning curve playstyle in the game
mighty tide
yeah and just optimising animations and movement is what I learn and practice whenever I play CB
meanwhile you have people just spamming double slash then running off to a corner to slowly charge
then wait for a wound and then power axe spam
like if you wanna play like that, go ahead, but im gonna be doing this better than you
gilded wagon
then you got skimp down to just
build it up for firs time
then spam savage axe
saed is just not worth to spam it
kinda same problem with ls
mighty tide
to be fair i still do that, savage axe spam, but building up to it optimally is what I do
they did nerf the axe spam tho
buffed SAED
i still don't see a good way to properly use it
gilded wagon
i doubt the dmg is good enough anyway
mighty tide
like 3 vial burst or just send it asap
gilded wagon
@finite zephyr you were saying shit about rise
now they gonna bring it back in TU3 https://x.com/MH_Wilds/status/1938524278783398097
X
charm/talisman that grant you either weapon or armor skill and yes completely rng like rise
cinder creek
artificial grind 😇
chrome anvil
need my urgent: coal miners needed quest frfr
finite zephyr
you'll really be able to appreciate it when the game is running at 4fps
chrome anvil
ME WHEN IM BARAQ SEDITIONING IT
mighty tide
Lagi fight and ost is great
I will say the underwater combat felt cool but reminds me of watching people complain about clutch clawing
Might have to experience it yourself tbh
gilded wagon
there is a new performance problem with range weapon
fucking capcom
new patch = making it worse
ancient helm
crapcom
simple mist
cant even do sumthing modders alr did 2 updates ago
mighty tide
there is a new performance problem with range weapon <:OMEGAKEKMAN:1110004724020...
Good, fuck ranged players 
stoic roost
keen swallow
I know the wilds team is crying and throwing up waiting for REXngine to give them plus four frames
finite zephyr
Rtx 6090 with 10 mfg when
keen swallow
Shareholders really want to kill every franchise that isn't RE I guess
finite zephyr
F
stoic roost
reminder
steep grotto
so monster hunter wild is dead?
keen swallow
until the xpac solves all of it's problems
mighty tide
so monster hunter wild is dead?
its still chugging along
main problem is just slow ass performance fixes (due to capcom hamstringing themselves with simultaneous updates)
steep grotto
ok
mighty tide
oh and another issue is no lifers running out of content
like i spent like 300 hours in the game already and other games exist so i can hop on/off
but some people want their game to be like an mmo with constant need to be on the game
shocking, the game that is not meant to keep players playing 24/7 is somehow convincing players they need to
boreal crane
Damn wtf 300 hours? I got like 60 before i got bored
mighty tide
Damn wtf 300 hours? I got like 60 before i got bored
I enjoyed learning every weapon and mastering the combos
That said, you can easily get by with basic knowledge which meant a lot of people got bored fast
But intricate knowledge of weapon interactions with the monsters, little niches and animation canceling
Shit like that I try to learn
I went from longsword to hammer to hunting horn
Then to cb, db, sw and ig
outer gulch
Hammer gameplay is so satisfying
mighty tide
Hammer gameplay is so satisfying
They updated some stuff too in TU2
boreal crane
I have enough experience with the games that i only have to check the new skills/moves out to rly see if i'd like a weapon or not unless it was changed pretty drastically like hunting horn
mighty tide
I don't have that big of an ego like some people to exclusively play 1 weapon
Which massively increases my enjoyability cuz I learn so much
boreal crane
I think i played a solid 5 or 6 weapons
mighty tide
And get to pick and choose
I play all except ranged, GS, lance and gunlance
Though I may delve into lance one day
Just have lots of other games on my mind so I'm fine dipping in and out for wilds
boreal crane
Bow, dbs, hh, sns, ls, lance, gunlance and very briefly tried cb to see if i'd enjoy it again like in mh4u
boreal crane
The concept of hammer gameplay is not interesting to me
Oh wait i used ig too quite a bit
mighty tide
Idk man
boreal crane
8 weapons not counting cb which i only briefly playes vs a few monsters
boreal crane
But other weapons have offset moves too
mighty tide
Yeah but none weave in their offsets as much as hammer now and not only that you have to play ballsy enough to always get the head damage
Rather than focusing on the sides or the ass of the monster
boreal crane
If i don't like the core gameplay of hammer i don't think i'd enjoy it just cuz it has an offset atk added to it
mighty tide
I'd say give it a try but up to you
I disliked db reverse demon mode for awhile
Where you have to enter demon mode to gain gauge
But I got used to it and personally use it over SnS as my comfy weapon
boreal crane
I've tried to like hammer's gameplay a lot in previous games and i just never did, i don't care enough about this game to reinstall it and try hammer again, maybe with the expansion
mighty tide
I say the fun addition of mighty charge is great
Though if you argue it's repetitve
Legitimately all weapons are
boreal crane
I don't like it cuz i don't like the charging moves and its smash smash swing triplr hit
I actually like counters and perfect dodges so the addition of offset moves which are similar to them essentially is nice but if i don't rly like anything else about the weapon
boreal crane
I'll see with the expansion though, it's not unusual for weapons to get more stuff with an expansion and then with some added difficulty it'll be the perfect time to check out other weapons again
gilded wagon
shocking, the game that is not meant to keep players playing 24/7 is somehow con...
main issue for wild is the current monster roster rn is not satisfy to keep hunting it
and i kinda doubt that charm/talisman system update wont retain ppl also
finite zephyr
Expansion needs to remove the chocobo. Make the game harder. Remove item teleportation. Remove counters from 90% of the weapons. Nerf or remove wounds all together
random zealot
I find it amusing that all the damage gimmicks added in different games are just a way to nerf WEX
mighty tide
Expansion needs to remove the chocobo. Make the game harder. Remove item telepor...
Removing seikret would not help, I don't care much for your purist tendencies but it's fucking annoying to run everywhere and it loses the momentum you feel in a fight
While I agree certain things like seikret mid fight for mobile item use is a bit op at times and abused a ton, just having the seikret move you from place to place is fine
finite zephyr
Removing seikret would not help, I don't care much for your purist tendencies bu...
Yeah it would. They made a massive map with tons of interactions and collectibles only for it to be ignored. You lose the immersion
finite zephyr
While I agree certain things like seikret mid fight for mobile item use is a bit...
It's not. There is a massive difference between having to manually traverse and actually appreciate and explore and going afl while you ride a train
mighty tide
Immersion means nothing to me when I'm walking down the same path for the 15th time trying to race after the monster who refuses to stop running
finite zephyr
Then just make every area 1 small arena
mighty tide
Making me spam flash pods so he does run only for the AI to force him to move to a new location after he gets back up
finite zephyr
Why even have a map
mighty tide
Why even have fucking open world then
finite zephyr
You're describing exactly why the chocobo should be removed
mighty tide
Let's go back to instanced arenas with loadzones in between
finite zephyr
That's fine with me
mighty tide
Having to tag with paintball so you keep track of the monster
mighty tide
Then run through 3 loading zones til you're there
finite zephyr
It's monster hunter not monster arena punching bag
mighty tide
Your definition of difficulty is just adding tedium
mighty tide
No but it's influencing what you want
finite zephyr
Because you haven't played other ones
You think reviews are bad because of performance. It's not
It's because the game is a shell
You lack a reference point
Yes having to actually find the monster is part of what makes the series what it is
mighty tide
I'd agree with content and performance, but not your purist way of deciding that walking/running from arena to arena is fun
finite zephyr
Learning where they go
Their movement pattern etc
Knowing it goes from area 3 to area 7
Of watching the shadow
To see where it flies
Rather than getting on my train and going afk
It keeps you involved
Seikret removes that completely
There is 0 points to any of the maps because of seikret
mighty tide
No it makes me think how annoying it is to cover ground to find the next arena it chooses to go
Not to mention it narrows down a lot of the locations because you can't expect someone to fight for 10 min then make him run around the map for the next 10 only to find the boss and they run for the next arena
Then you get predictable and stale locations to fight monsters cuz its nest then arena 1 and maybe arena 3
Removing any dynamic use of surroundings because they narrow the map so much
Just put every monster in a zoh shia arena
Just a circle
I get the immersion, I get wanting the knowledge check, but it's not gonna make you sound impressive when it's just gonna be plastered on a wiki that everyone will have open on a second monitor
The only compromise I have is disabling or making the monster not reveal where they are going requiring a paint pod
Someone marks it, you have to manually run there with seikret or open your map to see where the monster is going then auto pathing to the location
Then you have a knowledge check where players familiar will run to the spot while others will have to deduce where and select the auto path movement to a location
It won't show where the monster is going but it will reveal it on the map
gilded wagon
Immersion means nothing to me when I'm walking down the same path for the 15th t...
just go play world and you know what he meant
finite zephyr
I'm not gonna argue because you've played 1 game
You lack the understanding
Giving the player a literal subway train directly to monsters removes so much from the game
You no longer get hit by random mosquitos that cause you to rage and kill everything
There's no hidden cat quest because you don't explore
You don't fight random monsters on the way because "fuck that monster"
It removes so much from the game it can't be overstated
The dumbass owl in rise was a problem too, as were scout flies in world but at least in world you had to manually traverse
Even if you fixed the performance this game would have less players than world
Because it's just a punching bag mission select simulator
It's fucking hilarious in gu or 4u or 3u spending 8 minutes trying to find the monster because it happens to leave right as you walk in. Or having to waive at the balloon and they show you where the monster is. Again you want everything stripped from the game except killing monsters
gilded wagon
game still have same issue from rise
finite zephyr
Which is exactly the problem. The game is more than just killing monsters
gilded wagon
and even try to bandage "nothing to do" with charm/talisman grind like rise
finite zephyr
Even very basic shit people cry about like hot and cold drinks
gilded wagon
the environment almost not exist at all in wild
finite zephyr
"oh if I didn't bring one I just have to abandon the mission and start over"
Yes that's the point
gilded wagon
in every area is almost the same
finite zephyr
You lost 2 minutes which is nothing but it gave you an experience
gilded wagon
only the "pull this rock lul" part
finite zephyr
Or if the fight took too long and you would run out
But that cant happen in wilds because there's 400 of them in the environment
finite zephyr
in every area is almost the same
There are so many areas every map that people will never fucking see
Because the chocobo doesn't take the route
finite zephyr
Can't even not follow him 
Game literally stops you from walking too far the wrong way
Movie missions 
gilded wagon
and one thing that i dont like about wild
lbg hbg all are the same
either rapid or pierce or both
random zealot
game ran like shit since beginning
push an update that made game run even worse
which breaks the camels back on positivity
boreal crane
ppl are also unhappy about the content and lategame grind
random zealot
and people will review it negatively until fixed
boreal crane
alongside a divided community for some core decisions
finite zephyr
The game just isn't good
even if it ran well
it would have less players than world
boreal crane
tbf even if it was good it would likely still end up having less players than world sooner or later as there's just a massive amount of difference in content and player sentiment is always to wait for the expansion
which is honestly rly flawed reasoning to begin with to just say "yeah i mean the lategame always sucks in these games before the expansion so just wait for the expansion" as if that's not something to criticize capcom for in the first place but what can you do
mighty tide
tbf even if it was good it would likely still end up having less players than wo...
I agree with the point on worlds
people point towards the players on worlds being higher than wilds and im like, "Probably because they're still making their way through the dozens of monsters added from launch and in Iceborne"
Maybe my opinion will change give or take another 3-4 weeks when Wilds refugees in World stop playing it
finite zephyr
world is 7 years old
it's not people just getting to content for the first time lol
boreal crane
that being said though, wild's playerbase reached a low that world barely ever did in 7 years of release
finite zephyr
it's because it's genuinely a better game and when people want to play MH they pick that
boreal crane
world has barely ever dipped below 16k players, which wilds alrdy did and that's coming after a huge launch of 1.2m peak ccu
like what 4x world's peak
and also only 4 motnhs after release
i definitely would not expect capcom to be happy with those numbers
not after how wildly successful its launch was
finite zephyr
Honestly how successful the launch was, was baffling itself considering how fucking AWFUL the demo ran
that many people giving it a try despite the game running like absolute fucking trash
and they still fucked it up
not like it just runs bad on pc either
it runs like garbage on the ps5
boreal crane
but like yeah, wilds alrdy dipped below 10k before, and i don't think world has ever been that low
lowest i believe is like 15k or so
that's definitely gotta be somewhat alarming to capcom
finite zephyr
We'll see what they determine to be the cause of that
boreal crane
because with longer dev times, i don't think the expansion is necessarily making it 1.5 years after launch like per usual
finite zephyr
cause they definitely chased off older vets in favor of new players
But whether they come to that conclusion or not will be a different story
boreal crane
and if you've been around the playerbase, a lot of ppl have alrdy hedged their bets on the expansion for the game to rly recover
finite zephyr
TU's are just boring. They were boring in world. They were boring in iceborne (outside of giga sieges, and fatalis)
you login, kill the monster 3x then logout
boreal crane
which again i think is absolutely something to criticize capcom for, having to pay 30 bucks extra to finally have a satisfying endgame is rly not something ppl should be encouraging
chrome anvil
waiting for them to make a "classic" and a "modern" mode at this rate
finite zephyr
Go back to 4u/GU/3u where we have literally 500 quests
chrome anvil
just divide the players 
finite zephyr
and fuck off with the "event" quests for farming certain shit
give me brachy farm
with 4 valor hbg
mighty tide
it's not people just getting to content for the first time lol
few things to argue against this :
- Steam Sale just happened, Worlds is on a 70% discount. Definitely got an influx of new players.
- Players burnt from MH or wishing to try MH but wanting to not play Wilds atm, will most likely join Worlds as you said because of the feature completeness.
Thus you can say that Worlds having an increase in numbers ain't necessarily due to Worlds being inherently the timeless classic everyone will play 24/7
finite zephyr
This is before steam sale
mighty tide
Before steam sale the average peak was a 25k player count
gilded wagon
few things to argue against this :
1. Steam Sale just happened, Worlds is on a 7...
- is irrelevent since world ccu had been stable before the sale happen
mighty tide
with Wilds there are definite peaks in gameplay during updates for a couple weeks before it dies out
mighty tide
wilds is also on sale
not to the same degree as Worlds
a 70% discount is huge and people would rather shill money for a game bundled with the complete dlc and effectively a sticker of "The game is finished" vs Wilds which is marred in controversy atm due to bad performance, players complaining about content, etc
mighty tide
1. is irrelevent since world ccu had been stable before the sale happen
Oh im not pointing at spikes or anything, I'm just saying a constant flow of new players will keep the numbers up there
some vet gets bored of worlds one day, hopping off to play MHGU and a new player takes his place on the metrics
power guard
gilded wagon
your one instance of guard 5 being useful
he said that was with guard 3
gilded wagon
but it is power guard not normal guard one
elfin plover
Don't you want guard up 3 not guard 3 for chip damage?
elfin plover
Guard up 3 is 80% reduced damage though
gilded wagon
and need to point out again that power guard has less dmg reduction
if you do normal guard that not perfect guard should be just fine
- he mention that is with guard 3 already
elfin plover
guard 3 is for stamina depletion not for reduced damage, guard up is the one that reduces damage on hits with a shield
gilded wagon
wait doesnt guard up is unblockable dmg or smt
elfin plover
Guard up is different from world
so is guard
but guard up also does let you guard unblockables too
gilded wagon
nvm you could just release it earlier and take tiny dmg
https://fixvx.com/MH_Canta/status/1940300933856174477?t=nPDf3AdsmYf0It04KJuXbQ&s=19
random zealot
Go back to 4u/GU/3u where we have literally 500 quests
3u/4u/XX on pc without having to emulate is what I've been wanting for years
finite zephyr
for guard up
guard up has always been for unblockable attacks
in world it was 1 point
but as with powerguard 99% of the time it's not worth using
random zealot
and speccing for guard up feels so bad because it takes up weapon skill slots
which wasnt as bad in previous games
finite zephyr
most unblockable attacks now are just 1 shots anyways
previously it was just medium damage unblockable
but there were a lot more of them
same with grabs there's almost no grabs now
tulip tendon
The new update is out right?
finite zephyr
Yeah lil gup stuck on chatacabra
tulip tendon
I’ll play later
clever thunder
random zealot
real
I should have a modded p3rd iso for psp somewhere
english patch and higher quality textures from the ps3 version
tender silo
Going back to world
mighty tide
New festival up for anyone interested
mighty tide
gilded wagon
cinder creek
was gonna hop on but the shaders take 10 years to load for me
elfin plover
Not in World
gilded wagon
bring back wyvern ignition gs
cinder creek
bring back wyvern ignition gs
whats the meta gl now is it still arkveld lance
finite zephyr
Not in World
well yeah world had the most boring basic dogshit designs
gilded wagon
since you can craft wide ammo + strong now
cinder creek
since you can craft wide ammo + strong now
damn i have to roll my artian shit 🛏️
finite zephyr
downright depressing knowing you'd never get a visual upgrade on 80% of your weapons
at least it had rainbow armor though
wilds doesn't even have that
finite zephyr
Still not logging in also sekreit is one of the biggest problems with the game
mighty tide
random zealot
the theme for this summer event is ||Moonquake aka Ceadeus theme||
surely they dont intend to expand underwater combat and even make the lagi fight a proper underwater section
tulip tendon
Damn….dead game
simple mist
hey daz mai line
finite zephyr
A lot of words
finite zephyr
It's funny because they spend forever apologizing about difficulty and saying 9* will be hard etc then buff every weapon but bow
mighty tide
wait remind me
these talismans
do they replace anything we have atm
like do we slot them like decos or wear em on the talisman slot
cuz that is a huge ask since some of the existing talismans are very powerful, you'd have to have a perfect skill talisman to compare
overall an okay ish preparation update i guess
gives time for players to try and grab some talismans, fuck around with the new 9* and adjust
think they saw the rey dau scramble from players when it dropped and wanted to avoid that
stoic roost
gilded wagon
oh wait
mighty tide
i mean if they are truly random as they say they are
mighty tide
charm with a slot
stoic roost
mighty tide
depending on how much it rolls then yeah it may provide a good variety for builds
gilded wagon
welcome back MHRise
mighty tide
ofc there are the unicorn ones for sure
but definitely gonna be some variance here and there
finite zephyr
Most people will just cheat it
"I don't have the time to grind"
Ok well that's the whole point of the game so congrats
gilded wagon
ok most likely same slot with charm