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good fuck?
bruh
ark just 180 noscoped me with chain
i thought he couldnt fucking turn like that during animations

@gilded wagon has leveled up! (104 ➜ 105)
it also happen to my gf yesterday
the chain was across the room
snipe that bitch down
reloading every 4 shot is annoying
but i basically trade tetrad for atk3 or critboost
Shortly they will release the Monster Hunter Wilds patch (Ver. 1.000.05.00) where Gravios will most likely gain resistance to flinches after breaking its parts. This will change our strategy so post-patch we will make a proper tutorial with voice over for the new strat on how to level up as fast as possible. Stay tuned!
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gravios is patched pretty sur
Ye, even mentioned in the video
i wonder if thats like
But still, probably doable with a shock trap from any of the lbg
Just small bomb
Add in like flinch free instead of shockproof
Actually
i dont think i need flinch on GS
Don't quote me on this, cuz Im doubting if small bomb flings you
I'm saying it's for the bomb
So you can drop it and hit it for red hp
And not get flung across the map
ye my tackle gives super armor i cant get knocked off
actually
wait
dosen't even give red hp 
trying to cheese resentment procs
OK I just stole the hh build from the jp arkveld clear but I'm pretty sure it's just one of the universal builds right now
2 odogaron 2 gore
with weakness exploit charm
now I just need the gem
with how dogshit flayer turned out to be
i think the only like armor worth using is odo/gore
or you go mixed set with no set bonus purely for slots
for me its fulgur/gore
or 4pc gore
fulgur + gore gets me like 100% crit easily with little investment and I have bonus uptime between frenzies with agitator
my uptime with burst seems insane
4pc gore is like "eh, that's enough crit" then you just go full raw
cuz any attack refreshes the cooldown and you only need 5 ticks of dmg
and I think your echo bubbles count towards those
so you can easily pop em with an echo play
or just timing your songs right
playing any note triggers a bubble
so each attack counts for 2-4 hits
Depending on my bubble placement
So far nothing has been super hard so it hasn't been a big deal
But a lot of skills don't feel like they make a difference
Even though they clearly do something
Like how focus 3 does increase gauge gain but on I think switch axe your regular rotation is full gauge at focus 0 or 3
Or quick morph now only affects literally only the morph hit instead of the combo
And it's effect is barely 5 frames at max skill level
5 frames could literally be just variance caused by the recording software
Feels like they are trying to push people away from most things that make you do more damage and just take utility instead between what's been revealed about these skills and the whole weapon/armor deco split
you can use a melee weapon and make use of all the armor skills instead of being a ranged bozo
I already use defensives
Except mine are tied to fucking weapon
Guard/Guard Up are all on weapon deco
can't use counterattack and adrenaline rush uptime is ass on ranged
It's more about the slots being all size 1
I can use max might/agi
But those are size 2
everyone else can as well
Yeah cuz those are the skills they didn't randomly butcher
balanced ranged by making eles dog shit and unable to make use of the atk boost armor skills 
No % chance to maybe make a wound faster that doesn't apply half of attacks
Straight up stat buffs on max stam/enrage etc
Maybe it'll be better with more later game hunts or master rank
But it already feels like we are back at 5pc behemoth meta
g rank will probably have better ele hit zones
maybe arch tempered gear will save us 
The balance and design is just really bad when like literally every weapon type
Fast/Slow Ranged/Melee wtc
Is all on gore magala
Like I feel like a bow should want to use a different set than like a greatsword
But here we are
I feel like its also just base level high rank
this is like when an mmo finishes its story mode and all you do is dungeon farm over actual raids
lack of options cause people to gravitate to the meta
if Capcom wants to do good, they will consider the build potential with the sets
integrating more unique build enabling playstyles
in older one you got more various build than this even the launch build
since main problem is element is not work properly
do to hzv and some retarded dmg calculation
and you could get more on par build with just raw build
and
they wont 
they will just add new end game that everyone gonna use it
even with element build
idgaf about balance, i just want builds that are more than just crit
that's also never happening base game
all the insane combos are locked behind the expansion
at most we'll get a title update that has a meta set with slightly better skills and slots than what we have now
this wont happen with modern mh
not unless if they go back to how old skills work and with negative skills
get on!
the closest thing we had to negative skills in recent gams is like
having negative affinity weapons
i think those actually dont run crit
but idr anymor
iirc it was skill that if you have minus cr you do more dmg
Not happening
Crit has been meta since gu
They would have to straight up remove critical boost from the game and further nerf wex
you can slot in a growth deco
He's HH
he has self improvement
and the actual stats are pretty bad
If you have spare slots, you can put in Adaptability or Flinch Free
helps with small staggers and keeps you playing your horn
Adaptability is just QoL of not worrying about heat/cold
divine blessing 3 
the gore shoes give flinch free
well I can't see your set 
But you could alternatively go full 3 point into flinch free
no more knockback/trip from others
also
the only size 1 decos i use are stamina related. the rest are random shit 
you don't need flinch free anymore
stat check people who don't put shock absorber
my horn has knockback negationi
the point is, if he has 2 spare slots
2 spare slots for divine blessing 
i never get flinched
damage reduction gamba
still gets 1 shot by 5star tempered gore 
i never do
with my defense song

only 90%
hh perfectly adaptable to every situation
now get like 2 more of it 
you look like u are wearing brachydios armor with that paint scheme

my friend randomly got walled
and triple carted to the fucking bear you fight before guardian rath
and it was after that i realized he didnt know you could just grill anywhere
doshaguma's got paws
instead of having to be at camp to eat
idk
he was first timing everything fine
and randomly 20+ minutes on bear
gunlance
ayo
i was asking him like
how he did arkveld in like 8 minutes on hobo gear
but dosh took fucking 20+
i dont even know what this does
whopper jewel
o
another day another polygon

fishing deco
who got db build here
yessir
Me
its not even hard
like i genuinely am confused why people fail it
fish go left
hold left
fight go right
hold right
fish jump up? hold up and click
fish stop moving and your character goes into a reel stance? time to pull em in
i alternate W+S and reel in semi fast
once they swim to it, i stop and let em bite
if you tap S
it jerks the reel in
that is not good. you want to alternate W+S but not mash em super fast
oh and remember the bait
okay im gonna swap to keyboard when i fish should be easier
Tuff or whatever the one for giant tuna
i mean its just flicking the stick up and down
ill try both
ofc i cant straight up make hr version 
Nah
Rath db guild db arkveld db dahaan db
rath seem cool
that shit as big as small great jag
Nice
you can craft
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doesnt seem like it

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now do it again with the side quest
yes
i got another one 😎
ive had no luck on the grand escunite one, ive got the regular ones a dozen times just about
the deep lake betwee 12 and 13 got me that one
the one in the cave right before you dive next to the waterfall camp?
or the outside portion
ive been looking there repeatedly
probably got like 3 hours running around there during most times of day
escunites need midnight i think
i swear that ark set is depend on weapon
it barely heal me when i try it on cb
or the game didnt count savage axe mode toward for healing stack that much
the heal is a bonus, im using it for wex and deco slots
it has burst 5 and wex 5

those other shitters always take my carts and i never cart
im at the point where solo/duo got almost same clear time with full 4 man
ye i'm at the point where i'm like 4x more effective than a 4 man
i'm giga speeding these tempered arkveld runs now 
ikr some of these fuckers take all the wounds
wound pop less than 1 sec
i try to go for one and all of a sudden they vanish before i get there
hold your shield out in front of a db user
it happens in every new mh now 
idk how many times them and bow users proc my shield when i play lance
im trying to fire my wf and those fker interrupt my fast charge

i should just take ff so i can fire their ass off
ofc not 
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Did you know? Light has averaged about 30 minutes a day on Wilds since its release TWO weeks ago?
thx jensengpt
You are welcome, Evalnu
btw
for elemental HBG
your BIS is to play either 35 FPS or 144 FPS
if you can keep it stable at either one
those two consistently hit 7 ticks on your ele ammo
other ones hit 5-6

legitimately wasn't hard
just ran across the shore on Area 17 in Scarlet forest
then warping to Suja once i fished all the whoppers and coming back
takes like a minute for the fishes to respawn
had like 2 whoppers per location, if im lucky ill get all 4 before they run off

side note
new event up
Farm Chatacabra for armor spheres
seems guaranteed 1 Hard Armor Spheres (1000) and between like 1-3 Advanced ones (200)
iz there a site where i can find combos
or were the tutorial combos the game gave u the onli ones
cuz i swear db had more than just wat i saw
Most likely find a ytb video of a vets showing you all the combo, they don't differs too much from the old game, just some addition
ogey
i rember the stuff from when i played worlds years back so ill work with that for now i guess 
been busy in TNL
new expansion and content

don't worry, I'm so good at Monster Hunter that I can easily catch up in no time

That's a lie
i tried side burst LBG today
its definitely cool
but unless the weak point is directly ground level its like a DPS loss
cuz i did a spider hunt with a friend doing early HR and you waste basically all the burst shots on the legs hitting white unless its full knocked
LOL WTF LOL LOL 
UNINSTALL 
That's some MH content I'd see @tulip tendon posting ngl
Twitch > Monster Hunter > Clips > Download > Mash em with minimal edits > Moneyyyyy
ez
farm
and all of that video always contain like 30% out of context clip that not related to gameplay at all

Thanks, i wait for title update now
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in the monster hunter channel?
my bad bro
gacha invaded my brain
if you think about it, monster hunter is basically gacha

"Hm, this Gore Magala was suspiciously long"
fking
literal naked ass players
and the last guy i thought would be decent
fking HR 138
with a dip in literally everything
and ofc its a longsword player 
the worst artian weapon rolls in existence
in fairness my first gore was in clown armor too
brother look at this shit
this was a TEMPERED Gore Magala

guys the gore dragon looking sick in wild (i only saw it in Rise, only played world and rise)
burst 1 or 5
burst 1 gives 5 attack on just the first attack and more after 5 hits
its the case of "burst 1 or 5 and nothing in between"
good, join the ls hatred
caoslayer mention burst 5 give a huge leap from 4
and someone test with lbg and hbg better just leave burst at 1
"feature" again

yeah its probably better to just slot like tenderizer or something
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they dumb
it'd make sense if they don't want those weapons to be able to use those skills
but realistically it's probably just some spaghetti code
why the fuck is it on armor then
the arkveld set
what if
that you regen hp when reach amount of hit
base mh wild is so dogshit
cb savage axe cant regen shit
when they make dlc, everyone will rush to buy it
it just seems like
the real game is always the dlc
that happen with world and rise
savage axe doesnt work with anythhing
rise base game also shit
it basically happens with every monster hunter in general
outside of the ones where only the ultimate version came to the west at all 
recoil down better be back in dlc
some of my friend also thought
to be fair i get why
its something like mmos
they might make an adjustment soon
they want the playerbase to be condensed
otherwise you end up with the grinders at the endgame bosses, and casuals slowly climbing at the start
only when new expansion kick in
no lmao
and NO ONE doing any content in the middle
i mean it's also just cuz they don't have g rank finished and they're developing it right now lol
yep its nice for "solo" player that dont want to do mp
it still sucks if you want to promote a game with multiplayer
and unless you are super geared out and grinded on launch
you won't be anywhere near endgame
problem since world tbh
farming fucking guardian doshaguma for the 50th time to farm decos cuz you can't farm arkveld yet
you will get lockout of content with hr and mr gate
i dont like how the endgame rn is artian grind
imo staggering things is a good idea but they need to speed up some of the updates
if you arent using artian you have no reason to grind HR other than because its required
tbh i prefer safijiva upgrade more
atleast you can reroll the line
if only you can customise the song list
but if not its pointless
it was 1-2 month with new 1 monster update
if its not double hh then L
i finished my hh setup a few days ago, max support with everything else in dmg 
same with gl
lucky u not needing the funny green spaceship weapons
gl want shell power
gonna be trying out this build that uses gore + arkveld
i've kinda ran out of things to do though so i'm just waiting to see if the first title update does anything or if i'm quitting till g rank
artian only give normal shell power 
smh fake hh fan, not even inspiration
Maybe I should go troll in some hunts
is it just earplugs with affinity then attack L and extend melody forever
ye
i'm 50/50
because i know when i pug i pug with with real lowest common denominators
the ol sns classic
mushroomancer, wide range, free meal, speed eating
so i usually just bring defense/divine blessing horns with that
so they dont cart on me
there's a pair of pants that gives 3 mushroomancer, maxed out
Even current endgame players are kinda like sus
tbf this one reduce the needed deco for some build tho
The DPS is not there
tbh the biggest move i'm scared of that ppl are carting to is the gore magala breath, and that's dragon ress
I have 2 dragon res defo
and even then i've had people cart on me with defense L and ice res songs on jin
Since if not I'm like -12 dragon
i don't rly feel like ppl rly die too muc hto shit that requires defense EXCEPT for the backhand gore does sometimes
yeah which is my point in that, they did a lot of things to condense the playerbase and to ready em up for updates and new content
ppl never respect the monster move anyway 
rather than pumping them out according to the top 10%
the hunts i've had fail the most were jin


i also hate how tempered just attacks a little bit faster
my gf try to farm gore without me
around 7 out of 10 is fail 
i don't think iv'e failed a single jin
it takes the longest though
almost impossible ot get a good offset on hammer
jin has a shitton of hp i guess idk
you have to like pre-attack when the monster is not targetting you
still funny that we can still take 1 guard up anyway
just skip phases
then pray it turns towards you as you upswing
same with ls but ls only need 1 swing 
they should let tomahawk charge to be offset
since you need to charge for it first anyway
I dont think the base game so far for wilds content wise isnt even that bad
I mean if you're clocking in 100 hours and complaining about no content thats kinda on you
for me is the monster variety farming at endgame
I mean base world literally had nothing too
in here we farm only arkveld
the title updates were crazy
atleast in world you farm other elder dragon more
i mean the base one too
but on the ps4 when it first came out it was like legit not much
wild they only make arkveld highest rank monster and give best reward to farm
base world you farm all of elder dragon
since award are the same
I was just farming the same like 4-5 monsters in base end game until deviljho update came out
then kt came out for the 2nd update and everything went crazy there
like yes if you are a degenerate no life which most of us in this discord are (me) I guess it will be no content
lemme check
yeah this game have no content 
tbf hitting hr100 in under 50hr is nice
idk I feel like theres alot to do for me personally
grind is much easier
cause I like messing with all the weapons
if you're literally sticking to one weapon and a specific build and wnating to run the same monster all day then I just think thats crazy
for me thats not really monster hunter
but at the end of the day yall can play however you like
I dont bother too much with it
but i can predict that they will add safijiva weapon-ish later
it would be nice if they could let us reroll like safi
honestly, if it wasn't for the save scum method
it'd be better if they just gave you artian parts but you can just offer em up for rerolls
rather than making em all over again
im always gonna craft with 3 attack, just let me reroll and not fucking deal with making an entirely new weapon
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that is safijiva weapon that i keep mention
i could see they will add this in later
for siege monster
the ability also better (even you need to reroll the ability tier)
kt weapon gamba 
HOLY
I just fucking coomed
do anyone of you know the fall trap on the ice bridge
monster walks on it
it falls down into another arena
im just farming all monster titles changing weapons every few kills. going by default order and im at lala barina so far at 28/50 
i did my fking jumping spinning attack on hammer
and fell alongside gore magala
smacking it all teh way down

jin dahaad would probably take me a month to get 50 kills
killing chatacabra 50 times gotta be boring af
nah event makes it aight
and i get like 3 min ish kills
very quick
yea i saved it for the event and i was averaging 2-3 mins
i mean you can just swap weapons and fuck about
that is true
5 kills per weapon or at least 5 without your main tool
lala barina can be either a target dummy or a very slow kill if it decides to jump every second
good challenge
bro lala barina is a cunt with the flower rng
sometimes its easy
other times
im either getting 2 or 4 mins per kill
preety cool monster tho 
after farming gore for the past few hours
i fucking got it down to a science
when to KO the fker
when to mount
when to trap
he's still a bitch in between
but chain cc-ing this guy is fun
the wings covering the screen tho 😠
there is an event rn for armor sphere so

yeah ima go practice insect glaive on him now that i think about it
worlds on PC felt like you could farm multiple elder
wilds literally feels like arkveld simulator
arkveld or gore
you can farm the other apexes or gore
but gore 
its basically the same as world
gore is a fucking asshole
imo gore is weird
arkveld at least you can just chalk it up to bad rng
like it doesnt that "hard"
its like the diff between having like multiple elders vs only 2 t8s
more liie annoying fuck
Put gore in the wildlands id beat his ass up easy 
no its not hard, its just tempered making the animations like 20% faster is fucking up timings
he hops around the fucking arena
spews near 1 shots while jumping off to narnia
every movement sends you flying, not even a slight knockback
his swings are stupidly wide so if you're in the fucking crosshair, you HAVE to dodge with iframes
you can't dodge into the attack similarly to arkveld
its either use iframe or get hit
the ONLY upside atm
chilling with shield 
🤝

so stop moving and making gore do 360 attacks
maybe that is why i just only feel gore annoying
stick to the head you asshole
joke on you
gore always jump on my gf who play lbg 
mf keep runaway from me
i knock down gore
he turns and attacks the fkers at his tail
suddenly i see someone infront of me after he turns
and he does another 360 and smack that guy
hitting me
are there public origami model mod yet
3 dmg splats 
i saw someone made it during beta
Guys
i made it to HR 40 yesterday, now i can play the game 
any cheetos
wtf thanos snapped the monster population in half
back when there were 4 pickaxe tiers and they all broke 
pickaxes and bugnets 
crafting book
honestly i do wish there was a BIT of micro managing upkeep just so you gotta at least go out into the world
now its just rest in your camp to get others to farm for you
@bright nimbus my brain hurt from learning hunting horn
Its like I understand the concepts but the input delay and the jank of "the notes only get played once this animation is done" is wild
also something new to wilds is you can buffer notes on swings that hit twice
so i think for notes 2 and 3 have double hits
so you can put notes out faster or slower
depending on whether or not you want the subsequent note or swing after 2 or 3
that part is the latter half of what I mentioned
its a bit jank on WHEN it gives you the note, to the point you gotta mash the key til it appears and you may queue another attack by accident
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@bright nimbus W+R+B5 > L > S+B5 // B5 > S+B5 > R > L > L
think I created a good combo for just 2 song setup 
now for the 2nd instrument

bruh
extend melody is broken
@bright nimbus how come you didn't run this setup of buffs man
There wasn't free earplugs 
just roll the roar
im just joking lol rolling the roar is hard unless you know the monster well
not the roar
hunting horn
if i were to just spam extend melody then i guess i can be servicable
wym hard
but i wanna fit in sharpness and that's a tad annoying
i get lucky with them i never do it intentionally 
i think base is like 15 frames 
like i can prob go unga bunga with this setup
but if i want to fit some sharpness songs, its gonna be tricky
you can tie songs together you know
my common setup is like 1 3 2 3 1
so you have sharpness extend echo
and you can literally just do 3 2 3 2 3 2 3
and have 3 extends set up
slam it all with an encore and you have more than enough time to do 2 sharpness songs
and because those 2 notes have an extra buffer not
i wanna fit 3 echo waves over extends
so you can squeeze in those extends in like
3 swings
3 2 - 3 2 -- 3 2 animation cancel a last 3
or back 3
which is the short jab
echoes same thing
1 32, 1 32, 1 32
and when you have bubbles you can just put 3 entire notes in for free
just practice ig
ye
trying
like it'd make sense in my head if each swing did 1 note
but some inputs or combos will get you multiple notes cuz it connects each time
thats the buffering thing i mentioned
so dont slam the key lol
by default each attack is 1 note
but the double swings can be buffered to input a second note on the 2nd hit
again
i know
its just the timing
reason why i say i have to mash
because i cant get the timing down mid fight
and i cant tell if im gonna do a flourish
or a normal right swing
cuz im unconciously moving and pressing W
farm Guardians

Anything with Guardian Prefix drops em
I avoid those cuz I'm not gonna be spamming the mega demondrugs often
the megas last for 30 mins though
can it carry to another hunt?
ye
when you're in town it pauses
i think with enduring it doubles the duration or something
so if you chug in town with enduring armor set it carries over

so 2 hunts? 
there's a problem if your hunts are taking 15 mins 
just use regular ones

throw on enduring so they last longer and it's basically like a mega 


are you sure you're not mistaking them for guardian blood
they have the exact same icon
i mean
the other way around
mistaking guardian blood for nourishing extract
honestly both being 30 mins is nice
only 2 raw attack diff 
well
im doing hunting horn things
but im not doing good dps
so it feels like im just playing music and occasionally i hit things
but having earplugs made me a celeb in some lobbies
one typed how they avoid roar
just roll
who needs to roll
boss is gonna roar twice anyways
one for being disturbed
another for being angry
free dps windows
had 3 chargeblades just going ham during those phases
or have a hunting horn give earplugs
every ewapon is overpowered
because of the dogshit corrupted mantle
somehow they made something even more stupid than the fucking rocksteady mantle in world
I killed tempered arkeveld in 3:40 with SnS
hh and hammer aren't 
it lowers your hunt time by like 30%
I member getting oneshotted because I used rocksteady mantle 
actual 1 min nerg runs
I just unlock a memory
rocksteady -> hbg cluster spam
using HBG to farm the greatest Jagra
yeah but they nerfed the fuck out of rocksteady in wilds
that shit was stupid
and then put in esomething even more broken

worlds had even more broken shit
while everyone on PC was using mods to get attack decos
ledge gs existed
i think corrupted is good but the bonus hits is honestly a bad thing
my stupid ass was farming greatest Jagra
Corrupted is straight up bad game design
flashes didn't reduce effectiveness
it should never exist
infinite flash works
nah I think its aight if it was "inc affinity and dmg boost"
but the exta hits is actually bad
yeah doing 200 damage per hit with SnS is something that shouldn happen
nothing should just be free unconditional damage
i was getting some retarded times in world on release
that's dogshit game design
just feels like I am a GOD with no downsides
increase the drawbacks outside of just lose hp
give it frenzy's double dmg debuff
with flayer the hp loss makes no difference
they can change if you get hit your mantle breaks faster
or its DPS capped
or if you get hit at all
after a certain amount of damage the mantle breaks
similar to the stealth mantle
it'll eventually get nerfed
that's cause evasion tanked the nerf
give it flat attack boost
they designed monsters around rocksteady instead 
absolutely nothing would be lost
Nergigante in wilds
by removing corrupted mantle from the game
so therefore the answer is to remove corrupted mantle
so you'd ideally wear it when the boss gets knocked down and if you can maintain it or chain cc, it gets good value
kinda makes sense for nergigante to come to wilds
map is full of energy
and that bitch loves energy
it loves elder dragon corpses
where are the elder dragons
nergigante makes 0 sense in wilds
because there are 0 elders
what would he even eat
nothing
he'd die
Side note, is there a way to unsheath your weapon without doing a draw attack 

nergigante went after seething bezel
man
because had enough energy
i have to plan my hunting horn attacks
arkveld probably have enoug energy for nergigante
keep your weapon unsheathed and roll precisely
cuz getting an extra self improvement over melody extend is annoying
nah sometimes i pop items or prep a song while the boss moves
he eats elders because they have a huge amounts of energy, some non-elders have enough energy for him
like seething bazelgeuse
or
Arkvelds propagate
follows the energy trail
finds the Wyvern milk root
starts chomping at it
or Guardian Nergigante
It would give a reason why there is no elders
they might pull the Guardian shit for monsters that wouldn't normally be in this habitat
like unique monsters in older MH titles in certain areas
but I think Nergigante will be a DLC boss
you can justify "Wyverians made Guardian X which only existed in the swamp lands!"
new 2pc frenzy set incoming 
they said this new MH will not focus on Elders
but probably we will have some
but I want to see non-elders that can kick elders asses
like Rajang
Arkveld probably can take on Kirin

he would suck him hard
and that pony would have no energy
Tempered Rajang
we have two rajangs at home
Fart rajang














