#Deadlock

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keen heath
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then sometimes no leaves in like 10 games

autumn gorge
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bebop not the biggest offender

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yamato mains were macroing too

keen heath
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im sure alot of the characters can macro

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i just dont want to play a game that uses them

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its silly

autumn gorge
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they are gone in every source game for a reason

keen heath
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i dont even use macros in mmos

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because it takes away all the skil

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makes it boring

outer tendon
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True and based

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If you automate a combo why even play the game

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Let me just automate combos in street fighter and see how well that goes over

ocean mirage
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you don't use macros for fun

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I don't use macros cuz I'm too lazy to set it up

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we are not the same

tawdry arrow
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i saw some mcginnis insane wall jump tech

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but if you use it

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your wall is on CD

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so what is the point

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also it needs superior stam which i buy aroundl ike fukcing 35k+ souls

tawdry arrow
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giga dome nerfs

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cant dome objs anymore

floral skiff
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fire rate beam nerf was a good one

tawdry arrow
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  • Shiv: Slice and Dice damage reduced from 125 to 105
  • Shiv: Bloodletting Deferred Damage Cleared reduced from 50% to 40%
  • Shiv: Killing Blow Bonus Damage from Full Rage reduced from +25% to +20%
  • Shiv: Killing Blow T2 now also increases Rage Amp by +5%
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good

floral skiff
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idk about the dome not bein able to secure objectives

tawdry arrow
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yeah idk about

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reducing the usage of dome

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you should be picking kelvin for dome tbh

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not so you can stun people with beam

keen heath
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24/7 all regions now

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finally lol

frail timber
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They buff yamato?

solar fiber
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yamato buff?

floral skiff
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I hope they change lady geist

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she is pretty boring

autumn gorge
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  • Matchmaking is now open 24/7 for all regions
solar fiber
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i think it means you cancel the 1 charge

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with parry

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yamato is buffed ๐Ÿฅน

autumn gorge
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  • Flex Slot moved from "First Walker" to "Two Walkers"
solar fiber
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uhh

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kinda prevents steam rolling

autumn gorge
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  • T4 Items Cost reduced from 6300 to 6200
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holy shit

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lucky shot

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is at 90% now

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90% extra dmg

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I think I might rush glass cannon

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if I'm ahead

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7 stacks is crazy

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lol they didn't touch veil

solar fiber
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most spirit items got hella buffed too

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outside of the of the 500's

autumn gorge
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performance is better

solar fiber
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all melee buff items got nerfed i think, on a seperate note

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first one

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honestly

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i see no wrongs this patch

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its not a shitty league patch, where a 45% winrate character gets nerfed outta nowhere

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the only people that may be upset are people who main a strong champ

autumn gorge
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pocket is bugged

floral skiff
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I am waiting for actual changes to play more

autumn gorge
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the minimap sucks

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lol

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fuck this shit

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bring back the old one

solar fiber
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i need to queeu now

outer tendon
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yeah the minimap changes look really stupid

cold hemlock
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deadcock 24/7

solar fiber
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good

cold hemlock
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no quick cast

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sadgay

solar fiber
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i picked seven

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as secondary

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cause he was highly contested

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my first game is seven

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fucking meta sluts

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hahah

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tier whores

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yyea new map is shit

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the character i usually win with sucks now

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pathetic

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my game has been stuttering too

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in never did that prepatch

frail timber
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We are beta testers iguess

solar fiber
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playing any game thats not yamato is torture

frail timber
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Play paradox she is fun

cold hemlock
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cant do the pocket 2 3 2 anymore

autumn gorge
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yeah stutters now

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but average fps is better

solar fiber
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this was the worst performance i've had dude

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in terms of running

autumn gorge
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they need dx12 support

cold hemlock
autumn gorge
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lol

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glass cannon lucky shot rush

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busted af

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also stopped buying silencer on haze

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I get curse instead 90% of the time

ocean mirage
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this actually makes Kelvin vulnerable since early

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your beam dmg ain't amazing and if the guy decides to fight back...

dull sparrow
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they nerfed kelvin

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how am i supposed to abuse his overtuned ass now

heady sequoia
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u move on to playing any of the other perfectly strong characters

cold hemlock
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reminder that bullet speed of turret got buffed

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@keen heath are you giga gaming with the buffs

keen heath
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Lol wow thats insane

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No i havnt played in days because of the multibind abusers UltiSip

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This looks fun though

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Heal max mcginnis first and then go support items lol

cold hemlock
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echo shard for double heal

keen heath
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True UltiSip also the item that buffs healing i wonder if it just buffs self healing or if it buffs healing on abilities as well

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I could also get healing nova which if whole enemy team is nearby heals 520hp in 2 seconds

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Whole ally team*

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Good for when doing mid or base fights

dull sparrow
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holy shit

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who decided to remove the cursor on alt

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and only have it on tab

autumn gorge
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I did

dull sparrow
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fuck this change man

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whoever changed it is actually retarded

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you can hold alt when dead

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but not when you're alive

frail timber
tawdry arrow
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map change was worse

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at leas tthey fixed it

dull sparrow
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The problem is that holding tab means that you lose access to moving left side you most likely use your ring finger

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Unless you have long pinkies

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Holding alt means you still have full access to your movements

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And also alt has always been an ability based key

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So checking your abilities should be on alt

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What about pining the map? Drawing on the map?

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Holding tab feels a lot more awkward than holding alt

autumn gorge
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can I please just get haze every game

dull sparrow
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Maybe it's a bug since all the features work when dead

autumn gorge
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I can't 1v9 in any other hero

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it's so annoying to lose games I know I could win as haze

solar fiber
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have u found a secondary yet

frail timber
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Maybe police man you can

ocean mirage
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I still to this day

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have negative WR on my secondary

cold hemlock
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smurfing

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kek

autumn gorge
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it doesn't matter

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what other hero I'm good at

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no one plays like haze

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playing against me must be annoying af

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my 1st tier4 item every game now is curse

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they can't do anything

ocean mirage
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my only problem with haze

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is how easy it is to just land the dagger

outer tendon
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the hitbox is enormous

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i've seen streamers completely whiff

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and it still lands

solar fiber
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i rarely ever see it miss

autumn gorge
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the hitbox is fine

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it's a small square

keen heath
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Mcginnis is my only good winrate, haze and lady giest are like hovering 50% UltiSip

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Mcginnis is like 60%

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Still need to try the changes

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Manager making me work 8 hours after my last shift UltiDead

cold hemlock
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new patch what new

dull sparrow
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new patch new me

tawdry arrow
frail timber
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Unstoppable so fuckin good man

cold hemlock
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my best game so far

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died to bebop but as always

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solves all my problems

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๐Ÿ˜Œ

keen heath
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another 6 wins in a row with mcginnis UltiCozy

keen heath
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50 wins and 32 losses with her

thorn knot
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yo

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is this game like Overwatch?

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but better?

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been watching a couple streams, looks alright

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why does it kinda have a moba feel to it

autumn gorge
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it's a moba tps

thorn knot
keen heath
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its basically dota with guns

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god i wish this game would stop giving me haze

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my lowest prio hero

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and i always get it instead of lady giest whos my 2nd highest

cold hemlock
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retard keeps on asking but never plays

keen heath
keen heath
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i wish i could see my mmr UltiSip

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ive been playing with alot of people with good comms today

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and im like 62% winrate with McGinnis lol 8 wins in a row atm UltiSip

autumn gorge
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there's a mmr cap I'm pretty sure

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so if they were high elo before september 2nd

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still high elo now

keen heath
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i was already "high elo" before though

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i was like 0.1% on the tracking websites and my winrate has gone up since then lol

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those sites werent a good measure UltiSip

keen heath
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almsst 150 hours lol

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i didnt play for like 4-5 days either lol

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like 88 hours in 9 days HanaSweats

cold hemlock
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gaming

autumn gorge
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why do my games get spectators

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have I made it guys

cold hemlock
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you are famous

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yes

frail timber
ocean mirage
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this is interesting

autumn gorge
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@keen heath

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can you send me your mcginnis build

ocean mirage
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look who is my teammate

autumn gorge
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mcginnis busted rn

autumn gorge
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I mean

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these are high mmr games

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and we still have useless fucks

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pfzin

tawdry arrow
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aintnoway

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ginnis actually busted

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is aoe 2 actually not a meme

ocean mirage
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came back to 3 loss in a row

tawdry arrow
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cuz everything else was a nerf other than popping wall 1m sooner

ocean mirage
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maybe I pumped my MMR a little too high

autumn gorge
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that shit is op

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she has one of the highest gun dps too

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and the turret slow and spirit dmg

tawdry arrow
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but the atack speed doesnt scale wit spirit

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you already were using 2 with qsr to 2mag people before

outer tendon
keen heath
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@autumn gorge my mcginnis build isnt that special it changes alot i just buy whatever spirit items i can afford unless they have alot of weapon damage and melee characters

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then i go weapon damage build because it has alot of bullet resist and shred

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ill hop in sandbox and take a screenshot what what i build normally when weapon

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i dont usually engage long range and use my wall for cover or to close distance

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or to wall off objective so i can have 2 seconds to kill it lol

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i replace headhunter with glass cannon usually

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glass cannon is last item i get since its not really necessary since her dps is already high without it

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the spirit and vitality items i upgrade last as well

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this is what i normally get until late game and i can afford upgrades

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you could also get debuffer instead of veil walker

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since more weapon damage if you find yourself getting focused with cc alot

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tesla bullets can also be replace for whatever you prefer i get it because i like to combo it with ricochet, hunter aura is very good if they have alot of heroes who get close range

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but for spirit i just make turrets do alot and now heal is larger lol

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i usually do this

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enduring spirit i replace with leech later if i get there

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its not needed

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you have this item with enduring spirit

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escalating exposure is the only item thats like mandatory for the teir 4s

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its way too much damage especially with your turrets

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you want it as soon as possible

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well like not as soon as possible but i usually try to get it as one of my first flex slots lol

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when an enemy runs into like 4 of your turrets

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they will have a bad day

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this stacks so fast

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it basically doubles the damage of your turrets

autumn gorge
keen heath
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the max stacks is 20

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so 120% increase in damage

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plus your soul shredder amp as well

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things like mystic shot also apply a stack

autumn gorge
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do you not go echo shard

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ever?

keen heath
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no its too expencive i only get it if its super late game

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ill usually sell a vitality item for it

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echoshard only gives you one extra turret every 15 seconds or something but charges fill pretty quickly even without echo shard i can get like 6 turrets out, echo shard i might be able to get 8 out before one disappears UltiSip

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but its kind of overkill so unless you can afford to get it the other items are like mandatory

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i guess you could go echoshard instead of duration

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it would give you more spirit

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but turrets wouldnt last as long, i like them to last long since i can use them to hold a lane

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or just be annoying by putting it in a corner when enemies leave their base lol

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its up to you Ultishrug echoshard i would say wouldnt be bad instead of duration if you prefer putting down turrets faster for shorter amount of time

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definitely good for when inside enemy base

autumn gorge
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is this correct

keen heath
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i dont get extra stamina UltiSip

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your missing also the spirit item that gives alot of spirit and regen

autumn gorge
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extra spirit?

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ok I'm adding her as my 3rd for now

tawdry arrow
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gun or turret ginnis

keen heath
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i also get this for laning phase

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and sell it later

tawdry arrow
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mystic shot has an ICD iirc

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also dont buy healing rite for lane

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if you need healing go extra regen

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though i guess if you are willing to commit to health nvoa you can buy rite since rite builds into nova now

keen heath
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god i hate bebop

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also something i dont see alot of mcginnis do

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is crouch behind turrets lol

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please do this

tawdry arrow
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i usually do the opposite

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i can tank for the turret with extra regen

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and i win the trade

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since hte turret and i both hit

keen heath
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yeah i mean when a whole team is ganking you

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i often dash around my turrets while crouching

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god first game of the day

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my whole team are retards

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all inting and too scared too push or farm

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lol got like 3 guardians and 2 walkers by myself again

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zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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there whole team keeps ulting me lol

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bebop seven and lash and paradox

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its so overkill

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im 1v6 and killing 1-2 by myself then team just idles lol

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so lame dude

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i never had a team this bad in forever

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all game they just been farming the mobs nobody has pushed or grouped

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every spread out farming the little mobs between lanes

tawdry arrow
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oh yeah

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bebop got gutted today

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and mcginnis being remotely decent?

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immediatelly n erfed

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kek

keen heath
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ive only played mcginnis for the past like 6 weeks

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i never had any issues

tawdry arrow
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ive only played mcginnis

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for the past like four months

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its just annoying that they try so hard to prevent her from being good

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her turrets have been nerfed so many times

keen heath
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and now im against an abrams aimbotting my fuckin souls lol

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hes like shooting them before they even appear

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cant use my turrets i guess

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wow

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i shouldnt have played today

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2 inting teammmates

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crying and raging

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lol

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like wtf

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my days are either all wins or all loses

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its crazy

autumn gorge
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man

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sometimes I melee souls

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and I get no reg

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like

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?

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then I played against someone

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who was just spamming melee

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nears the creeps I was shooting

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and instantly popping them

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so fair

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I love how the server gives prio to whatever is on my screen

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if it's an enemy

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but not souls

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when it comes to punching stuff

keen heath
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UltiSip i need to get better at laning

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im winning too much and people are getting really good lol

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id be able to have more control over the game if i stomped my lane harder

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it doiesnt help im always lagging

keen heath
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2-1 today so far UltiSip not too bad

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is queue broken for anyoine else?

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i wait like 5 mins then cancel restart

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and ive waited like 15 mins so far

autumn gorge
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nah

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just means you're in high mmr

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nvm I can't find a match now either

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got in

keen heath
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god what is wrong with people lol

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all my teams never push lanes

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at all

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like 4 of them jungling

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while were losing 3 walkers

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UltiSip 3-1 now

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im a split push monster lol

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enemy team wanted to do mid

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i wanted to do guardians and shrine

cursive idol
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either people know how to play now/my mmr's inflated/i'm not tryharding as hard anymore

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my games are shit sheeesh

keen heath
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yeah i have no idea how i keep winning games lol

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every game at the first 10 mins feels like were going to lose

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then we win lol

tawdry arrow
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the mmr is fucked

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its like super heavily into how many games youve played

keen heath
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just had the most one sided game lol

tawdry arrow
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my mmr isnt that high but i recognize a good amount of pugs cuz im pretty sure just total games played is super heavy into your matchmaking

keen heath
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nobody got their guardians lol

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we just got steam rolled

tawdry arrow
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i play with people that play a lot, but got into playtest like later into the game

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even though im maybe like 300 games played and theyre like 200

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and we get botburgers more often than not

keen heath
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just rolled lol

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i didnt have a single t3 item

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we had no flex slots lol

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their entire team was just shoving us in i dont think some of them backed to base ever lol

keen heath
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5-2 today UltiSip

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i havnt sweat this much in a video game in a long time lol

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feels like enemy team is just way better then me every time

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but i keep winning some how

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also i didnt know vindicta does that much gun damage lol

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last game she did 2k damage in one second with her assault rifle?

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i thought she was a sniper lol

autumn gorge
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she's like draven from league

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once she's ahead she kills everyone in a few seconds

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nothing you can do

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I wouldn't be surprised if she becomes the most banned hero in ranked when that comes

frail timber
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My kill stats are insane lowkey

sullen mossBOT
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@frail timber has leveled up! (60 โžœ 61)

autumn gorge
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another haze main

frail timber
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Shes the soldier 76 of this game for me lol

frail timber
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Wait the 3 is not viscous main damage

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I did not read lool

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It doesnt even do spiritt damage and i imbued all the items on it

autumn gorge
ocean mirage
autumn gorge
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glass cannon rush

ocean mirage
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you can kinda build into melee dmg but it's not impressive numbers

autumn gorge
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into curse and lucky shot

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they could not play the game

frail timber
frail timber
autumn gorge
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it was my 4th item

frail timber
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I think rushing ricochet is the best tbh since farming jungle is so much easier with haze

autumn gorge
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my playstyle is just punish whoever tries to splitpush

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I avoid taking fights where there are more than 2 people

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if I'm teamfighting then ricochet 1st

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always

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I leave jungle camps for other carries

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and gank enemy jungle camps

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you can tell where people are

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by the icon disappearing

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free wallhacks

frail timber
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Wdym how

autumn gorge
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the camp icon

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you see it disappear

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if they are farming it

frail timber
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Ooooh

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Holy thats 5head

autumn gorge
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yeah

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and from seeing other people on the map

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I can guess who's doing it

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if he's killable I rush straight to the next camp he's about to farm

cold hemlock
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ye

autumn gorge
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or lane

cold hemlock
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its not as the same as leagues

frail timber
autumn gorge
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I'm a terrorist

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they hate me

cold hemlock
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when they only disappear if you go to them directly

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and they fade away if someone took them already

ocean mirage
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is still gun build tho

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none of his skills are reliable enough to be built around

solar fiber
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think mcginnis is my secondary now

ocean mirage
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@solar fiber duo when

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carry me

solar fiber
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whenever dude

ocean mirage
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logging in

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#1035013303593877534

ocean mirage
autumn gorge
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holy shit

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these guys

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had such an ego on enemy team

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I 1v9d them

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I daggered pocket during his majestic leap twice

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he never typed again the whole game

solar fiber
ocean mirage
ocean mirage
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my account is actually cursed

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literally can't get any triple digit IQ teammates

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I destroyed the haze 0-4-0 in lane, got their walker like 7 min in

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helped all other lanes to get their walkers

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turn around and somehow haze has more kills than me now

frail timber
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I literally played with Abrams that did 1,500 dmg and everytime i spectate him hes punching a wall

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Maybe bots ngl

keen heath
keen heath
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why is the first game of the day always shit lol

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i was 7-1-3

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like 20 mins in

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ended 7-7-4

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couldnt kill them because they were all together and focusing me every fight

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i was 31k souls at like 25 mins lol

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only got 5k souls for 15 mins after

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like its such a terrible experience lol

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hate it

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i was laning vs lady giest she was 0-4 lol with like 4k souls when i was 7k during laning UltiSip

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she didnt die the rest of the game

cursive idol
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how do yall get fed as vindicta

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her farm speed's ass

autumn gorge
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ult people

hasty lintel
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glorp oh fuck there is a dedicated deadlock

keen heath
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shitty day

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going to uninstall game soon

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not sure how we won lol

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our abrams was a bot all game

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they had our shrines down at like 20 mins lol

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but we held on for like 30 mins and aced them

outer tendon
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yeah naw

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knife hitboxes are absolutely retarded

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go ahead and tell me throwing 1 knife between two people should hit them both instead of neither

autumn gorge
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bro

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that's the max rage effect

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it spreads to nearby targets

outer tendon
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but he didn't hit them lol

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it completely whiffed

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I've seen it on haze a plethora of times as well

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it's like hanzo arrow from OW

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where the h itbox is a fucking 18 wheeler

autumn gorge
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slightly off model I think

outer tendon
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oh that's closer than i saw it hitting

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but i didn't freeze fram eit

autumn gorge
outer tendon
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i'm assuming that's the soul sharing in first 10m

autumn gorge
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yeah

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it's weird he said

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not worth rotating to other lanes if you can't get value from their creeps

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as a dota player

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you should get punished for bad roams

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only time you should be roaming is to kill the enemy on that lane

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and if you fail that, you get punished

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in dota and in league

tawdry arrow
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yes

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which is what double soaking stops

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you dont get punished at all for failing ganks

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and the original laner doesnt get taxed

autumn gorge
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he doesn't want it removed completely

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but instead a limit on how many souls you get from creeps per minute

tawdry arrow
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it should be removed completely

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in that it should be shared at a penalty like every other game

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like its not like in league when you get taxed by the jungler you literally only get half money

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if someone is standing in th elnae

autumn gorge
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not even half

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you get none

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and half the xp

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they need to remove it

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whoever gets the last hit should get the money

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and not have an artificial cap on it

tawdry arrow
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how is that gonna work in duo lanes

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because the game is balanced right now with basically all heroes having access to gold

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and duos are randomly assigned

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there arent enough heroes that can play poverty in the game

autumn gorge
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those 2 would have sharing enabled

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the problem now is you can't swap to a solo lane if you wanted to

tawdry arrow
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yeah but how is that sharing going to work

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does the game just assign two specific lanes

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though tbh i think the game should just always like

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just have nonrandom duo lane assignments

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for exampel always 1 2 2 1 or something

floral skiff
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make 2 jungles

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1 1 1 1 and 2 junglers

autumn gorge
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the game would assign 2 players and those 2 can share souls

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and put them in a lane together

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but yeah the problem now is any of those 4 players can't swap lane

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it could be solved by a pick and ban screen

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where you can assign your teammate

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before the game starts

tawdry arrow
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90% of the problems could be solved

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if we just had a draft phase

autumn gorge
ocean mirage
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Please fucking read the skills

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At full rage the knife spreads to a nearby target

dull sparrow
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I wouldn't say he's dumb

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He just didn't know

outer tendon
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wait

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aren't you the guy that defended RMT in MMO?

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like 5 months ago?

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and got obliterated by this entire discord

ocean mirage
ocean mirage
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I defended paying for gold, in ARPG

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cuz it doesn't affect nobody

ocean mirage
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and cried me a river

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cuz I wanted to try new builds fast and didn't find fun in grinding same content over and over

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for $40 bucks OMEGALUL

ocean mirage
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you're forgiven for now tho, cuz you're at least interested in a good game like DEADLOCK

tawdry arrow
autumn gorge
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61k souls

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this is gonna be my secondary for sure

tawdry arrow
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thats assuming its not changed before its released for actual playtesting

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most leaks dont even make it to test server

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shiv used to have a possession ult

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not this point and click execute shit he has now

autumn gorge
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I tried her just now

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her ult has a description this time

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honestly disappointed by her damage

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she has some cool gimmicks

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like being able to jump to the cat you threw

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with her 2nd skill

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you're incentivized to punch people

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because of her ult

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her gun sucks to build around

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her only damage is the cat statue

autumn gorge
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save me gaben from wraith

frail timber
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This build is the most fun in this game keke, just becomes ac130

solar fiber
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holy damage

solar fiber
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๐Ÿ˜ญ

solar fiber
dull sparrow
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now can they fix the bug where my teammate goes into a pushed lane while the enemy team is knocking at the front door

outer tendon
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They'll fix it by having them jungle instead

cold hemlock
solar fiber
frail timber
solar fiber
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idk how ppl here feel about feet ๐Ÿ˜…

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i-i can post ivy feet

outer tendon
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Feet are disgusting

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Of all the parts of the body why fucking feet

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๐Ÿคฎ

stable gull
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feet are good

cursive idol
solar fiber
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guys blame toxic top

cursive idol
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wait i thought ivy's the blue chick OMEGALUL

cold hemlock
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vindicta

outer tendon
keen heath
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UltiSip got a 4v1 triple kill this game was fun

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i started the game 0-4 vs pocket lol

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he was good laning but he was trash after idk why

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he denied everything and would always find a way behind me lol

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and then burst me down

outer tendon
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I'm always baffled by objective damage

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And how nobody seems to hit objectives

keen heath
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yeah i dont get it lol

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its like they dont know they can damage them lol

outer tendon
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3 players in that game understood what the actual goal of the game isb

keen heath
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yeah that haze was getting super flamed all game

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by both teams

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but they did the most work

keen heath
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god this game is becoming more toxic then league lol

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every game is just people non stop flaming eachother lol

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like its still alpha lol

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cant even ask anyone to help push or do mid

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they just flame you instantly

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everyone thinks they are the carry on the team and just tell everyone to fuck themselves its crazy and then we lose because no one wants to work together

autumn gorge
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it's not as toxic in eu

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even in high mmr where you get spectators every game

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but the game is not as fun anymore

keen heath
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yeah problem with EU is everyone im playing against is good at laning so playing with 150 ping isnt doable anymore lol

solar fiber
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basically you exp share now if someone ganks/sits in your lane

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imo this gives greifers some power early game

solar fiber
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these changes are better for the game, i retract my statement

ocean mirage
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this takes power for premades

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back then the duo lane can both go to a single lane and come back

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with enough communication you can create desync

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of waves

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and still get back in time

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I don't really think it is a massive problem but maybe for pro play in the future?

keen heath
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They shouldve just not touched it and make it unique to deadlock of encouraging players to roam Ultishrug

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If everyone does it then it isnt broken

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But i guess enough people dont like roaming around and just want to afk in lane

solar fiber
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for soaking? or the 4 minion exp per wave hotfix

keen heath
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Before the fixes

solar fiber
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soaking does mitigate skill discrepancy in laning phase

ocean mirage
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I do like being able to go a solo lane and gank and still not lose economy

solar fiber
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idk why encouraging roaming would be good if its just to coordinate catching waves

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the hotfix did allow that, and this one is different

ocean mirage
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this one forces X lane to be solo or duo

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which is eeeh

keen heath
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No one will want to gank now though

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Lanes shove in too fast

ocean mirage
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there's still value to ganking

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but yeah the value will not be for money

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but map control

solar fiber
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there's just more risk to it

keen heath
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If enemy sees you leave and hard shoves they will get guardian quick

ocean mirage
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if you dare to walk up as low hp

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you will get punished regardless

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it's like "bait" gank

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making you think Ima gank but just rotate behind and shit on you

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idk, it's just a lot of mind games

solar fiber
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hao de, there's a bunch of nuances to account for

ocean mirage
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this change def removes the effectiveness of being smarter

keen heath
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Yes but you are stuck in lane now if they arnt low since you lose alot roaming if you dont get a gank

ocean mirage
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exactly

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the same guy can pepega never leave lane

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and be same eco

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this game already has very little snowballing

keen heath
ocean mirage
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even if you're omega ahead early, they can catch up pretty easily

keen heath
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I noticed everyone putting mcginnis d teir on their teirlists

ocean mirage
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dota mindset

keen heath
ocean mirage
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never lost til lost

keen heath
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If shes d teir why am 62% winrste

solar fiber
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ur mcgin is top tier

tawdry arrow
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is cuz ginnis sucks

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every atk speed debuff is basically full disarm on you

ocean mirage
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most ginnis just go spirit build tho

tawdry arrow
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even like 30% stops you from ramping up at all

ocean mirage
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it's like bastion back in OW

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you play tower defense

tawdry arrow
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spirit/turrets result in your team never fighting around your turrets

keen heath
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Yeah i mostly go spirit now, weapon damage is good if enemy team has no engage

ocean mirage
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you have way better mid boss capacity

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you have better solo split potential

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cuz you can solo play around your own turrents

keen heath
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Her turrets in mid is nasty

ocean mirage
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and your ult is more impactful

tawdry arrow
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the one thing i miss from turret build is

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being able to use mystic slow

keen heath
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Just one shot people as they walk in to stop boss

ocean mirage
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I'm almost certain your turrents apply mystic slow

tawdry arrow
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like you can still use it as gun but your uptime isnt that good

keen heath
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Yeah they do

tawdry arrow
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yeah thats the entire point

keen heath
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Its one of the first items i get

tawdry arrow
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mostly suppressor is important

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i dont think the slowupgrade is too big?

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since turrets have a base slow of 25% on hit

keen heath
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Mmm do they have a base slow?

ocean mirage
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they need to buff her gun and make her towers less tanky

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its too fucking tanky

keen heath
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Im at office so cant check

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Her towers arnt that tanky

ocean mirage
keen heath
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Ive had all my towers one shotted many times

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Irs so frustrating

ocean mirage
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lil bro it takes 1 entire clip to kill 1 tower

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for most characters

tawdry arrow
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Her towers are too squishy ever since they let heroes do full gun damage to them regardless of dropoff

keen heath
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Luckily they with medical circle thingy i can spread turrets out more now

tawdry arrow
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They're better late but early they're giga shit

ocean mirage
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early game they're free money for enemy

keen heath
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Yeah my turrets get one shot all the time

tawdry arrow
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They need to revert that max gun damage change

ocean mirage
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but say you're solo splitting a walker mid game

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they need at least 2

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to contest you

tawdry arrow
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Most heroes already have more range than turrets do base

keen heath
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They need at least 3 for me personally

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Sometimes they send 4 or 5

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And my team doesnt do anything

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๐Ÿฅน

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Ill get a triple kill at enemy base, while 5 people are farming the jungle

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Then they flame me for having less souls then them because im not afk farming

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I usyally place turrets inside buildings and around corners when i know enemy team is coming for me

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And then i juke them and make them come inside building after me

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And just keep circling around making them all het hit by my turrets

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Its fun

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Also walking away from an enemy while slowed and half hp

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When your back is turned and your running to your turrets for some reason enemies brains turn off

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And they tunnel vision chase you back to your turrets and then they die instantly lol

ocean mirage
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finally getting the hang back

tawdry arrow
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its actually so aids

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my lane is party lane every game pre 10

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and now im getting fucking taxed

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im not even in middle lane

tawdry arrow
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13 minutes

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they 3 man gank me

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and lose 2 walkers on right side for it

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literally cant play

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even tho they lose the game for it

solar fiber
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a ranked system will save this game

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but i doubt it'll occur in playtest

frail timber
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When weeee playing

ocean mirage
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its still just an alpha invite only test

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I would love ranked but I don't think they will add it anytime soon

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Dota 2 didn't have ranked for 2 years

solar fiber
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did not know this

solar fiber
ocean mirage
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still pretty healthy I think

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if they feel the need for more players they would just remove invite only

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and prob hit 500k

solar fiber
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yeye i was just thinking about my recent games

ocean mirage
solar fiber
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๐Ÿฅฒ laning with a bigtime noob vs two sweats

ocean mirage
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we are the lab rats

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we get the worst matches

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so future players can get fair matches

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once the MMR system is fair and done

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but yeah, player side of me would love to just have ranked right now

solar fiber
ocean mirage
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get some practice in, once Lac plays deadlock

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I will try to get a bald cup edition deadlock

autumn gorge
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I had a mo and krill

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complain about my infernus laning phase

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saying it was too strong

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pretty ironic coming from a mo krill player

ocean mirage
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god gamer

frail timber
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Going against pocket as haze lane phase is so cancer

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His 1 poking so much damage and his shotgun denies is so busted

autumn gorge
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you can outtrade him early levels

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if he tries to come at you with 1

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aim for his head

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he goes in a straight line while doing it

frail timber
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its hard when hes doing it from the middle bridge thing long range

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my kills lowkey impressive EunchaeGiggle

autumn gorge
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how is that possible

cold hemlock
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gaming!

tawdry arrow
dull sparrow
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yeah alright buddy

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what game doesnt have hacks

fading tinsel
#

league

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they got scriptors though

dull sparrow
#

league definitely has hacks

solar fiber
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๐Ÿ˜ญ

ocean mirage
tawdry arrow
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this shits broke

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im pretty sure im closer to 120

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237 is too high

solar fiber
#

i cant believe lacari is ahead of me

autumn gorge
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100% real mmr

viscid forge
#

Looks like I'm better than you all after playing for 4 hours EZ

floral skiff
#

@heavy falcon I miss you ๐Ÿ˜ข

solar fiber
#

xd

sharp idol
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is lower higher ๐Ÿค”

solar fiber
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it has 100% accuracy

frail timber
#

This character so dumb bruh, i just get my half health with one punch lol

dull sparrow
#

Why are they using the deadcock logo

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And not the deadlock logo

solar fiber
#

its optimal to pick the first image suggestion

cold hemlock
#

do you not like cocks

dull sparrow
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why would i want a deadcock

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if i love cocks

cursive idol
frail timber
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My mmr is so cooked man

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My lane always a tryhard now

dull sparrow
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i love abes that unbind their shoot key

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and replace it with melee

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they just get parried 3 times in a row

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and goes for a 4th

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i swear the guides just make people retarded

cold hemlock
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natural selection

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๐Ÿ˜Œ

cursive idol
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dawg just laned against a guy that one tapped every single fken soul in under 0.02s

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mf gotta be hacking right aint no way he's that good, Madge

autumn gorge
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sometimes it's ping diff

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hard to tell

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I can average 100ms on good days

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100ms reaction time

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on the training thing

outer tendon
autumn gorge
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you can practice here

tawdry arrow
#

ill prefire on ginnis

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and still lose cs

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and i think this explains why

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my bullet speed is only 533

autumn gorge
#

I do get denied by vindictas sometimes

tawdry arrow
#

they need to give minigun either way smaller bloom

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or more range

autumn gorge
#

even though I hear the popping sound

tawdry arrow
#

the fact all attack speed slows basically true disarm you

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is just cucked

ocean mirage
#

NA tournament

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anyone interested?

autumn gorge
#

I'm not NA

tawdry arrow
autumn gorge
#

seems legit kappa

tawdry arrow
dull sparrow
#

its almost like its based off dota

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lacNOWAY !!!!!

cursive idol
#

guess focusing getting on the objective first makes a lot more sense now FeelsDankMan

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always though it was because you get more control/space over the map

dull sparrow
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yeah if the enemy takes your barracks then the enemy gets stronger creeps and give less gold

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it is also for space

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you take their objectives and then you can steal their jungle

tawdry arrow
#

these snowballing mechs

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๐Ÿ’€

tawdry arrow
frail timber
#

Im so toxic, i love pausing the game right before killing their nexus and trash talk ๐Ÿ’€

#

Best part of the game

dull sparrow
#

do you also pause before your own blows up?

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to trash talk them and your team mates

frail timber
#

Nah i hope they dont do that OMEGALUL

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But if they do its fine

cursive idol
#

i still haven't bothered to check how to all talk kek

dull sparrow
#

shift enter

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like dota

viscid forge
#

God I'm so bad at this game. But it's fun to play

dull sparrow
#

shut up bitche @thorn knot

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shuddup

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๐Ÿฅ•

thorn knot
outer tendon
#

Pussy

viscid forge
#

So anyone knows how to deal with Abrams? Newbie here

sullen mossBOT
#

@viscid forge has leveled up! (30 โžœ 31)

solar fiber
#

press F

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accurate description of every each one

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Problem is that, imo, health items outscale damage items early midgame

outer tendon
#

toxic bullets late game and pushing f

viscid forge
#

Guess I need to learn to time F or parry

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unless you can spam parry

solar fiber
#

its like 5 sec cd

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best response is to react to hearing a heavy melee

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then you have to find out what ur best punish is after parry

#

its character specific i think

outer tendon
#

early game just punch him back

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unless you're haze

solar fiber
#

for yamato, its heavy melee, rightclick, and heavy melee

dull sparrow
#

If you land a parry then it doesn't have a cool down

outer tendon
#

honestly probably even punching as haze

tawdry arrow
#

just buy decay

dull sparrow
#

If you miss a parry then you're gonna get heavy melee'd to death

solar fiber
#

you can weave in a left click between heavy melee cd

dull sparrow
#

High risk high reward

solar fiber
#

thats why reacting to audio is better, but in higher elos yea

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they'll know just to bait it out

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melee users have the upperhand

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tbh