#Deadlock

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cold hemlock
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real

dim flax
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at least he can try aiming a bit before he does

outer tendon
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Nah man spamming charged punch is actually the highest level of IQ and mechanical ability in the game

ocean mirage
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He can’t one trick seven tho, considering how high pick rate it is

heady sequoia
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he has highest pickrate too

dim flax
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just dont make him play pocket

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most boring to watch char

autumn gorge
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lady geist is the play

dim flax
heady sequoia
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dude pocket players 💀

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9.9/10 chance of severe mental retardation

dim flax
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dude I dont know how they made Puck's skills look so boring to watch

autumn gorge
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pocket players flying across the map using majestic leap

dim flax
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pocket is just brainded puck

heady sequoia
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pocket players diving in and not having cds to dive out

ocean mirage
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idk if you guys have seen ult focused build

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that shit is retarded

dim flax
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thing is tho

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Pocket's ult feels so shit if you dont hit at least 2 people

ocean mirage
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pocket 100 to 0.1%s you in like 5 seconds then you just die to something else

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if its just doing ticking dmg theyre just doing the build correctly

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man my main is becoming a meta pick recently for no reason

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other than streamers

heady sequoia
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i had a wraith game where i was 1hp enjoyer half the match Bedge

cold hemlock
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is toxic bullets lethal

ocean mirage
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yes

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only decay and pocket ult is non lethal

cold hemlock
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toxic bullets + affliction

ocean mirage
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oh wait

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nvm

solar fiber
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i heard toxic status leaves 1 hp

ocean mirage
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TB can't be lethal

cold hemlock
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ah

ocean mirage
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its % of current health

cold hemlock
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gg

ocean mirage
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so it can't go below 1

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decay is the same way

cold hemlock
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but yea his ult is strong later on

ocean mirage
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bro I wish streamers

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would stop playing Shiv

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it just got nerfed 7 times in a row in Friday

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and somehow every streamer is like yep this is the character now

heady sequoia
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REAL

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today im forcing myself to take shiv off high prio

ocean mirage
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I've tried every build with Shiv

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knife focus, dash focus, even gun build

outer tendon
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You fix shiv by deleting his files from the game

solar fiber
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the best part about being yamato player

outer tendon
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Extremely oppressive character design

solar fiber
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is she's never contested

outer tendon
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Yeah but then you're a Yamato player

ocean mirage
outer tendon
solar fiber
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she'll get buffed for aimlets Prayge

ocean mirage
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the only reason to play yamato

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is that you know that shit is not getting nerfed

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she already sucks

heady sequoia
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REAL

ocean mirage
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have you ever seen a Yamato carrying the game?

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never

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cuz she can't

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even when fed

outer tendon
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Her abilities are just super weird

solar fiber
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hydration puts in good work on her

ocean mirage
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like I don't doubt that you can be useful and make up 1 characters value maybe even 1.5/6

solar fiber
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she doesnt play like any of the main damage dealers

ocean mirage
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but you're not a seven where you can be 4/6 characters worth of value

solar fiber
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yea i wish her split was better since that s how i usually play

ocean mirage
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also not sure if my MMR is just not that high even tho technically it says Im on top 10% games

solar fiber
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i play her mostly because of the skill involved in her abilities

ocean mirage
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but mid boss feels underwhelming

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value wise

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for the most part

heady sequoia
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what the fuck is up with you having to wait for the shit to fall down and then melee it

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💀

ocean mirage
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well it gives time to react for the enemy team

solar fiber
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so enemy can steal

ocean mirage
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which is fine

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but even if you do get it

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rarely I will win because of it

outer tendon
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You can steal rosh cheese

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And it's instant

heady sequoia
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maybe its so one sided atm because nobody gives a fuck about it atm

solar fiber
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what does midboss give

outer tendon
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Half respawn time

ocean mirage
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fire rate and minion power

outer tendon
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So you can just suicide into their base

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ALSO

solar fiber
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that does seem pretty good

outer tendon
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Remove the random trash

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From boxes pots etc

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Holy shit that is so stupid

ocean mirage
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or can't even properly push with mid boss

outer tendon
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I find it weird there's no buyback

ocean mirage
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in fact since your minions are buffed and destroy enemies minions, you don't get lane farm anymore

solar fiber
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lowering death timers is pretty useless

ocean mirage
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and sometimes getting mid boss actually makes you behind in eco

tawdry arrow
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AP pocket is fucking stupid

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i hate it

ocean mirage
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I'm sure better MMR would use it better

tawdry arrow
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its bad too cuz its fkn cheese build

ocean mirage
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but it does feel underwhelming for most games unlike a baron

tawdry arrow
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ap pocket instalose to debuff remover

heady sequoia
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ap

tawdry arrow
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hybrid pocket is better

ocean mirage
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you can go spirit build

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but focus CDR

tawdry arrow
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mid boss is overrated

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it was op when it was instant revive

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50% reduc is troll

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so many team will die with rejuv

ocean mirage
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your 3 is like 4 seconds CD, counting the 2.5 you stay inside the suitcase, your 3 CD is actually just like 2 seconds

tawdry arrow
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wait 30s

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boost back in

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die again

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you can do that

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or just buy etheral shift

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for 3k

solar fiber
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^

ocean mirage
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true

solar fiber
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its just extremely not worth it to die at all even with cd buff

tawdry arrow
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you just need 4 exodia piece for pocket

ocean mirage
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I'm sure high MMR will make better use of it

tawdry arrow
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improved burst, majestic leap, etheral shift, warp stone

ocean mirage
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but still if the majority of the player base can't utilize it

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it should be tweaked

tawdry arrow
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it used to be op

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they gutted it on purpose

outer tendon
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Dying is super punishing because everyone has boots of travel

tawdry arrow
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instant revive --> 75% reduc --> 50% reduc now

outer tendon
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You can get to the other base in fucking 9 seconds

ocean mirage
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every lane

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I just go for last hits and denies instead of poking

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get extra regen

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and come out 1k ahead

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I think I'm too good at mobas for FPS players and too good at shooting for moba players

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Shiv is op btw

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even Mikaels int on him

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these streamers should just stick to paradox

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and other bs

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and leave my shiv alone

dim flax
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i dont even know him to be good in any other char than Paradox

autumn gorge
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800 plus games on paradox

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he has autism

dim flax
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its cool watching good paradox players tho

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something I cant say with Pocket

ocean mirage
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Mikaels got most of his paradox win

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when his 3 used to have 250% dmg amp on rank 3

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he has been 50% winrate on most other things

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already inting 2 minutes in OMEGALUL

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hes definitely good but not 1k MMR above everyone else good

autumn gorge
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idk

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I tried paradox

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it's a shit hero tbh

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outside of his ult

ocean mirage
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you tried that

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after she got nerfed

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she used to oneshot ppl with just 3

outer tendon
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Agreed paradox seems very bad

tawdry arrow
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paradox is a decent hero

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but after nerfs its like lash

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you need to be a really good player

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or else the hero is useless

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snowballing is relaly important on paradox

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unlike other heros that can just farm up

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the less ahead you are the lower pressure you have on kinetic carbinem

autumn gorge
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man lash is actually c to lane against

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that fucking doom slam

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-300hp

tawdry arrow
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doom slam does too much damage

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idk why its not nerfed

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doom slam should also only do damage if enemy is on ground

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should miss if im jumping

autumn gorge
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once he gets improved burst

solar fiber
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at least near double jump height

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1 character i hate to lane against is bebop

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he gets too much off of a hook, and his left click seems too good at denying

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and securing orbs

outer tendon
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Honestly vindicta is my least favorite because she has so much range

ocean mirage
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nah bebop players are inters usually

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highest deaths by far on average

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I FOUND LACARI POG

solar fiber
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enemy talon’s name 😳

viscid forge
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Not sure this is a good place to ask. Anyone willing to provide me a key for Deadlock? PauseChamp

viscid forge
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What's your ign?

ocean mirage
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151157743

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friend code

viscid forge
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sent

solar fiber
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ill add too later for duo’s or soemthing

ocean mirage
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yepyep

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anyone thats been in throne room for longer than a year can add me for invite

viscid forge
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So how does this invitation work? PepoThink

solar fiber
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takes a few hour to receive generally once invited, through email i believe

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can be up to a day tho

viscid forge
autumn gorge
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you will get a notification on steam

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bell at the top right

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click accept on it

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once it shows up

ocean mirage
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anyone down to play right now?

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first game of the day

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warming up

viscid forge
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I will keep that in mind.

solar fiber
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i can around an hour or so

ocean mirage
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I swear I will become a disgusting seven abuser

solar fiber
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na right?

ocean mirage
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yeah

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I just can't do bad on seven no matter how shit laning is

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go jg and 10 min later Im stronger than everyone else

heady sequoia
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real and true

keen heath
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if you duo with someone you always lane with them, he can duo with a friend whos good at aimlabs lol

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then he can just be supportive harasser or frontliner

ocean mirage
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and he has to duo with someone good yet low mmr or new

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MMR is fucked anyway ppl with 200 games still get new players sometimes

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some matches I literally have to 1v11

autumn gorge
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anomaly?

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both sides are identical

cold hemlock
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crazy

solar fiber
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its suppose to be exactly 50/50 wtf

keen heath
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UltiSip i hate playing games against OP heroes lol

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like 4 of 6 enemy heroes can win game even if they get stomped

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so its like why even bother lol

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like 1 or 2 is ok

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but when the enemy team has like ultimate teamfight team its unplayable after laning lol

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unless you split push like a god

ocean mirage
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maybe amber hand says different things

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and ppl tilt harder

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@solar fiber

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come come

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@here who wants to play a few matches NA

solar fiber
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i just got into a game

ocean mirage
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no tryhard just chill gaming

solar fiber
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u can get into a game and i'll wait

ocean mirage
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Im on losing streak

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no more seven allowed

solar fiber
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they took yamato from me 😭

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play sevcen

ocean mirage
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rip I just got into another one lol

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you can come I will stream and you can backseat me

solar fiber
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sure

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u shoulda parried that melee

autumn gorge
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holy shit this build is actually stupid broken

heady sequoia
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nothing quite like 4/0'ing a kelv and him rq'ing

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its so satisfying yet so unrewarding in the end

outer tendon
solar fiber
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those barriers that u can go through

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like a fog gate

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i wish any build i found had that item, movement speed is really ufn this game

outer tendon
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Oh the smoke shit?

cold hemlock
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rainbow on one side

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greyed out on the other

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this one

outer tendon
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Ah ok

cursive idol
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is that recoil? HmmTea or one shot

cold hemlock
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recoil

floral skiff
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I am banning myself from playing Kelvin

cursive idol
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damn, why shiv got giga recoil compared to everyone else LULE

heady sequoia
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shiv doesnt even have recoil

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its there but anyone whos ever held a mouse and knows what an fps game is can easily pull down

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but his right click also exists

keen heath
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UltiSip my favorite character and play style is split push mcginnis with max minigun damage

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nothing more satisfying then killing walkers and gaurdians in 2 seconds

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shes also impossible to 1v1 since i ahve turrets covering my flank and a heal to empower myself and the turrets

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i also have a wall to prevent something like haze ults

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or seven ults

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shes soo good lol

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her minigun life steal is also insane with the aoe heal she has that is 5% max health per second

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i can tank like 2-3 players if im prepared

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and they dont have anti heal of course

ocean mirage
solar fiber
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EZ

heady sequoia
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poor little dophy

solar fiber
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first time infernus 😔

heady sequoia
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same man......

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sometimes all u need is one to figure out this shit aint for me

solar fiber
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yamato brings me joy

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so that's who i'll stick too

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idk who else to secondary

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infernus is very boring

heady sequoia
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join the seven hivemind

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👽

solar fiber
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i'll check out mcgin and bebop

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feel like seven is going to get nerfed soon

heady sequoia
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as he should

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bro is mad silly when you can just lock down the enemy spawn for like 30s and be invincible

dim flax
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seven and lash are funny

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both of them can solo defend a base

viscid forge
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Thanks for the invite @ocean mirage feelsglad

keen heath
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UltiSip mcginnis is like my highest winrate character

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minigun goes brrrrrrrrrrrrr

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everyone drops like flys lol

dull sparrow
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play the beyblade guy

keen heath
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the beyblade guy?

cold hemlock
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mo krill

keen heath
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lol he doesnt seem like my type of character

heady sequoia
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mo and krill is fucking nasty

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insane disarm

heady sequoia
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and you can just straight up not get punished for doing dumb shit with burrow

cursive idol
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man kelvin is so fucking annoying to fight against if you're not just playing another op char

ocean mirage
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but yeah before that he wins pretty much any encounter like ever

heady sequoia
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the absolute best is when they bubble on mid boss for guarantee

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Bedge

cursive idol
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pisses me off ReallyMad

heady sequoia
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I dislike abrams the most though!

keen heath
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UltiSip 5 wins in a row so far with my split push mcginnis

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also 23k damage is my highest ive gotten so far

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you know whats crazy

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seven being even higher winrate after 3 nerfs

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like his kit is so insane lol

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how does someones winrate go up by that much after 3 consecutive nerfs lol

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haze is second closest with 53.5% winrate lol

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or nvm warden 53.8%

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basically same

ocean mirage
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he got buffed in some other areas

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like being able to cast while channeling

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which make him able to ult and just unstoppable

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literally no counter to his ult now

ocean mirage
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only objective on sight!

keen heath
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lol

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how

ocean mirage
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when your team is useless

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you gotta break everything yourself

keen heath
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i killed like 2 walkers 4 guardians 2 shrines and the patrons by myself basicallu

ocean mirage
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prob some regen'd stuff there

keen heath
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well technically 5 guardians because the first one in lane

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oh true patron regens

ocean mirage
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if everything fails just split push

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and hope they dont come back in time

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xD

keen heath
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i split push if they have an OP team lol

ocean mirage
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idk my teammates are usually fighting monkeys

keen heath
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but its been fun to do it every game and win

ocean mirage
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I'm delegated to janitor duty

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cleaning lanes

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and sometimes I get chances to just push

keen heath
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my only loss is lady giest because someone else got mcginnis

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and then my team got rolled

ocean mirage
keen heath
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shiv literally 1v9

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at one point he killed 4 of us in our base by himself lol

ocean mirage
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in my loss I got a 0 obj dmg, a 606 and a 748 teammates

keen heath
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lol i dont get how people play that badly

ocean mirage
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and it was still winnable too

keen heath
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they skip the tutorial and play blind folded

ocean mirage
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I solo'd the patron before weakened

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and our base

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died

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when we had all 8 guardians

heady sequoia
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whoa skipping tutorial is based

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wtf

ocean mirage
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all 2 shrines

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and everything up

heady sequoia
ocean mirage
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I thought I could just end myself

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if my team just stalled

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nop

keen heath
ocean mirage
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didn't know deny was a thing

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til like 15 matches in

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like if you just remove my grief first 20 games

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my win rate prob jumps at least 5%

sharp idol
ocean mirage
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team literally doesn't do objectives

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what are these teamamtes

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1-16 ivy

keen heath
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i got almost 37k

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long ass game lol

keen heath
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the seven on my team was flaming me all game for my build

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when hes playing seven

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called me a retard for building no spirit items lol

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but spirit is worthless lol

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especially early

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turrets die like one hit lol

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6 wins in a row with my build

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cant be that bad

cold hemlock
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better invest it on cd items

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divine kevlar soul rebirth spiritual overflow

sharp idol
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i get stomped so hard that people GET to buy the refresher with the cd items

cold hemlock
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damn

keen heath
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all weapon and vitality items with weapon power

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7 wins in a row now

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the star items

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if im against haze i usually go restorive shot

cold hemlock
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is that your own or just the default recommended

keen heath
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my own

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well i think i lost this next match

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bebop is so cheese

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and everyone losing lane

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bebops pull is so stupidly long range

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and then he knocks you backwards on top of that

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nothing you can do but die if you get pulled

cold hemlock
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yeppers

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i imbue it with reach too

keen heath
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i go reach mostly for my heal and spirit resist

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but it aqlso buffs turret range and ult aoes

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oh and wall size

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its just really good all round with her

keen heath
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its very good for how cheap it is

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i sometimes go different items depending on situation

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especially vitality and weapon

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its sooo annoying when matches go for like 30 mins even though you have no choice to lose

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my team reporting me Omegalul

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for not being in lane

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and letting bebop get walker

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but nothing i could o

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bebop too strong

dull sparrow
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is the police guys ulti even good

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idk why you would want to be afk for 2.2 seconds

cold hemlock
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if you can wind it up yea

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you need duration for it too

ocean mirage
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OMFG

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these trash inted me

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and

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I got them next game

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IN ENEMY TEAM

keen heath
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guess the stat track websites are down even though they said they wouldnt be anymore because valve turn data colleciton back on for the game

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it hasnt updated in over 24 hours for me

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im 8 wins and 1 loss with mcginnis tonight

ocean mirage
cursive idol
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she's pretty fun Okayge

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could keep my distance and just shoot in one direction bc of her 2

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main problem with mcginis for me is enemies just rush me down and circle around

autumn gorge
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honestly

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turbo buff yamato

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nerf her gun damage

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let her be an actual samurai

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her 3 should do at least a billion damage

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add a custom animation for each hero of their head getting sliced off

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and deadlock is game of the year

floral skiff
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deadlock is 30% ready

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how long will take for the game to be finished

cursive idol
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I get fucked by this dick all stage

outer tendon
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That's pretty gay

cursive idol
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found a cheater

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cheating in a game that has no progression

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mfer just cheats just cause

autumn gorge
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yeah

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I fought against one before too

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there's nothing you can do

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as soon as they get headshot booster and rapid rounds

outer tendon
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BASED cheating for no reason other than it's fun

autumn gorge
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I had to cs from miles away

ocean mirage
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and just straight up beat him inside his dome 1v1

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obviously Kelvins rarely 1v1 anymore after sometime

autumn gorge
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you guys need to watch this guy play

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his laning phase is insane

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look at his spm

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7095772

ocean mirage
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haze main

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🤮

keen heath
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my first game of the day went well

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got 2 1v3 triple kills in a row

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was funny

cold hemlock
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holy balls

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thats an insane spm

keen heath
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lol what thats elo, total games and winrate

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im 10-1 with mcginnis since yesterday UltiCozy

cold hemlock
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waow

keen heath
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11-1 now

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getting lucky

outer tendon
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what the fuck even

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more kills than my entire team combined

solar fiber
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you might be a bebop main

autumn gorge
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that's until

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they start getting spirit shields

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and debuff remover

keen heath
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UltiSip definitely a bebop main

autumn gorge
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than bepop falls apart

keen heath
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yeah debuff remover OP if people actually buy it and use it

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some people buy it but dont use it lol

outer tendon
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haze spent all lane just trying to damage me instead of farm

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then i killed him twice and he left

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to go to another lane

umbral ginkgo
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Dang yall are pumping

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1500 messages already

keen heath
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duod with a friend

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and lossed

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my 2nd loss

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half my team were trolling lol

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i was defending like 4 waves by myself well they were out getting killed by the enemy lol

ocean mirage
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200 subs for deadlock

dim flax
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who was that

cursive idol
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our now absolutely shameless streamer

cold hemlock
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is this a subathon

cursive idol
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daily subathon

dull sparrow
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daily sub goals

ocean mirage
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theres no way theres that many deadlock andies

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hes just finding an excuse to not play it

dull sparrow
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of course

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its 200 subs

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no way you get 200 subs in a day

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in 5 hours*

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its a meme sub goal

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even the 50 subs one is a meme

dim flax
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there are many deadlock andies

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its just not worth to sub just for that

heady sequoia
ocean mirage
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well assuming he streams the entire day, a lot of ppl prob just auto renew'd before he even went live

dull sparrow
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sure but this is a daily sub goal

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they reset daily

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so if you get 27 subs for the day

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its 7 wasted subs

cursive idol
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100k player dmg yamato

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how tf

autumn gorge
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carried the fuck outta this unbe guy

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bro was talking all the time

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was nice though

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he communicated his ult targets

outer tendon
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Honestly a mediocre player with good comms is better than a good player with no comma

ocean mirage
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wheres diino carry services

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to the noobs in throne room

solar fiber
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just found out yamato has the strongest base dmg melee in the game rn

autumn gorge
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it sucks that valve is against tracking

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grey talon playstyle is so shit

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this champ feels so useless when it comes to being proactive

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he doesn't hit objectives

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he just sits back and spams 1 and ult

outer tendon
ocean mirage
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1 game of shiv 1 game of seven

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perfectly balanced

autumn gorge
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what build on seven

ocean mirage
autumn gorge
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I'm building veil on every champ now

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along with 1 of the 1250 barrier items depending on which one my champ scales of

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seems strong af to me

outer tendon
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I hhonestly fucking hate being in the 2v2 lane

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because 85% of the time you get some fucking troglodyte who sits on your own steps and doesn't do shit

ocean mirage
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I honestly

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just play every lane aggressive to limit test

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I'm getting super good at seeing solo kill angles

solar fiber
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aaaa, im finally getting a hold of the map and farming/jungling

dull sparrow
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whats the trick to this game

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how do you min max the farm

heady sequoia
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dont be a kd player

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simple

solar fiber
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tbh ulti is the farm master

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that game i just looked to catch and push waves, farm inbetween the next wave crash

ocean mirage
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I get mind controlled

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into fighting

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when I should be farming

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garbage teammates inting, towers taking free dmg

dim flax
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even in deadlock you cant avoid the

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save your buddy syndrome

ocean mirage
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iM TILTED AF

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every fucking match

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is a 5k soul deficit at like 15 min

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and it only gets worse

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wtf is this matchmaking

heady sequoia
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real

dull sparrow
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thats normal for multiplayer games

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just make a 5 stack and go scrims

ocean mirage
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finally a win

heady sequoia
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1/9 kelv

sullen mossBOT
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@heady sequoia has leveled up! (116 ➜ 117)

heady sequoia
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we love to see it

cursive idol
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never read that wraith's skill 3 gave lifesteal

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spirit damage as well on every bullet so items that triggers off of spirit can get triggered easily actually nutty char

ocean mirage
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Yeah wraith dmg is so absurd

cursive idol
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can easily 1 v 1 with seven's ult kek

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do yall buy healbane/toxic bullets on every game

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like literally every character's lifestealing right LULE in what game would that not be a good buy

dull sparrow
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man kelvin is retarded

cold hemlock
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yes

cursive idol
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playing against kelvin aint fun

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prolly the only char i'd say that to atm

autumn gorge
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it's very rare for me to get healbane

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even against lady geist

tawdry arrow
autumn gorge
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I've learnt to play around it as haze

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now wraith

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poor girl has no chance late game

keen heath
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UltiDead having a bad day on EU all stomps lol

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didnt play for like a day

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and everyone is just shitting all over me

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hard enough to deny lol

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but i also keep trying tod o spirit build ll

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which sucks

keen heath
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god its soo annoying when someone has same souls as you same damage and 0 objective damage

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and has the audacity to call me a noob lol because i lose 2v1 to shiv and abram

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0 wins 4 losses today so far

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every game has been super one sided stomps

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i need to start rushing utility for my fights

autumn gorge
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yeah vitality items broken af

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I always get veil now

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it gives me weapon dmg and ammo

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refreshes my shields everytime I go through cosmic veils

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I stack one of these with veil

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or both on haze

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only 500 vitality item I care about is extra stamina

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or extra stamina and sprint boots

keen heath
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0 wins 5 losses today

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my 12 and 1 day is pretty much void lol

outer tendon
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I usually get both of those barriers tbh

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They're really good

umbral ginkgo
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💀 🔒

autumn gorge
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like

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5 of them were spirit damage

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they could not kill me

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only vidicta can

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vitality items underrated

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they give you dmg and survivability

keen heath
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1 win 7 losses today so far

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opposite of my last session

ocean mirage
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Or yesterday

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Did they changed match making rules?

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I was doing well like 6-4

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Then suddenly 5 loss in a row

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The rare games when I win I have to over perform

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Like I’m usually at least 1.5 teammates of usefulness

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I have to be like 3 teammates of usefulness to win

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Prob a lot of overwatch players and CS players

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Not going for objectives

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They got aim for farm

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But not much else moba sense

solar fiber
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i wonder if in the playtest state they change the mmr match making to get more info

autumn gorge
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man I really hate

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people who tunnel camps

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when their lanes are not pushed

ocean mirage
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Draw 4 man attention, keep them busy for 30+ seconds, turn around and your team is still jungling

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I’m usually defaulted to janitor cleaning up lanes duty

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It’s probably league instincts tho

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Farm = good

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And these nerds would flame my score for having too many deaths when I’m 10k ahead of these freaks

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KDA is so meaningless in deadlock

outer tendon
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Or you start losing a team fight and your 2 teammates who were jungling run in 2v5 and die

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Instead of just continuing to farm

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When if they had been there in the first place you would have won

tawdry arrow
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Esports for closed alpha game

solar fiber
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no shot

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lmao

autumn gorge
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guys this might be controversial

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but I hate flag reacts

tawdry arrow
solar fiber
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ahh

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the community

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behind this game

tawdry arrow
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Before the floodgates opened

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They already were hosting "high mmr" private matches

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Couple of my friends had access, one was on a team until like 3 days ago when his friend got booted for being too bad

outer tendon
solar fiber
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its just a community event, its badass af because its community sponsored

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it just shows enormous support

autumn gorge
tawdry arrow
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its sponsored by an esports team

autumn gorge
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🇵🇸

solar fiber
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who

tawdry arrow
solar fiber
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hero bans

tawdry arrow
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i mean as of right now

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bans are prob just gonna be target bans

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and shit like shiv vindicta goo

outer tendon
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Is it draft?

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Like dota 2 captain

tawdry arrow
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probably most you can get are 1 ban a team, maybeee 2

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since the pool is so small

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unless every game is the same 12 hero

autumn gorge
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yeah I suspect

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pocket, shiv, vindicta bans

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maybe haze

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the pig might get banned too

outer tendon
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You guys think vindicta that strong in a group?

tawdry arrow
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enough to basically be banned every game that didnt have target bans

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in the other tourney

autumn gorge
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a well built vindicta flies around like a mercy

tawdry arrow
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her damage potential is too high

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and you can snowball properly unlike other hero

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cuz of bonus gold

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they just need to revert the slowing hex nerf

solar fiber
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that makes sense

tawdry arrow
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keep the lower damage but make it ground airborne enemies

autumn gorge
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they need to gut movespeed

outer tendon
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Yeah I've def gotten her to be literally permanently flying and you can just gib people with the ult I guess being in an actual team would help shore her lack of defense

autumn gorge
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I've seen some builds where warden is just zooming across the map

outer tendon
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Since I always target her in team fights

autumn gorge
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same with seven

tawdry arrow
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i dont think ms is necessarily the problem

autumn gorge
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fleetfoot along with other stuff

tawdry arrow
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zoomer warden has been the meta build for a month+

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seven is fast naturally since he gets sprint speed with spirit

outer tendon
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Warden is the one with the ultra cringe ult that heals him?

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I can't stand that bullshit

tawdry arrow
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the problem with move speed is really more that towers are not strong enough to stop early dives

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the fact i can solo dive someone pre ult is fucking stupid

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under tier 1

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as fucking ginnis of all people

outer tendon
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Towers in general need massive buffa

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To health defense and attack

tawdry arrow
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towers need league aggro

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that would fix a lot of it

outer tendon
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You can wipe a lane in fucking 6 minutes

tawdry arrow
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since they dont even fucking hit you half the time youre diving

solar fiber
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the game would be slower tho

outer tendon
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Well dota aggro is the same as deadlock

tawdry arrow
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yeah the early game needs to be slower

outer tendon
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The tower only targets you if you hit a hero

tawdry arrow
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late game can be accelerated

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except half the time it doesnt even aggro

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when im hitting them

outer tendon
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Honestly why do towers have heads

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Remove the heads

tawdry arrow
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they also should just

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make duo lanes not random

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and remove the pre-10 bonus to sharing

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so you get punished for failing an early gank

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preset duo lanes should have the bonus to 2 and only those lanes

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right now you have zero punish for spam ganking early which makes the MS shit worse

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since if im in a duo lane

outer tendon
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Yeah I literally hit 4

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Then do nothing but go lane to lane

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And crush every tower

autumn gorge
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idk

tawdry arrow
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i shove in my lane, send 1 player to gank a solo lane, even if they fail, that player comes up net positive on souls

outer tendon
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Because of the soul sharing

autumn gorge
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there should be a cap to movespeed

tawdry arrow
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because of the stupid soul sharing mech

autumn gorge
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it's nerfed in every moba for a reason

tawdry arrow
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that wont fix anything

outer tendon
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Honestly

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Remove sliding

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Stupid fucking mechanicb

tawdry arrow
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people will just buy majestic leap and warp stone more than theya lready do

autumn gorge
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seven zooming across the map

tawdry arrow
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sliding shouldnt give infinite ammo

autumn gorge
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doesn't even need to use stamina

tawdry arrow
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theres no fucking reason for that

outer tendon
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Sliding giving infinite ammo is cringe

tawdry arrow
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the only thing it does is allow certain heroes to spam short slides against the stairs near tier 1

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and kill tower for free

outer tendon
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But even without it you move at the speed of light

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It's like an ultra version of TF2 slides

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Titanfall

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Not fortress

solar fiber
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its a trait all characters have

tawdry arrow
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like having speed to gank is fine, but if you fail a gank you should be punished

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not rewarded

outer tendon
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Yes but not all characters benefit from it the same way

tawdry arrow
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theres literally zero risk to ganking early

solar fiber
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at least in detering infinite ammo ur mitigating a win state

tawdry arrow
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if i play a character with a shotgun or geist

outer tendon
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Some characters get a way better benefit from slide ammo

tawdry arrow
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i can have literally infinite ammo to shoot tier 1 with

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because of the short stairs by it

outer tendon
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Or give it a 6s cd

autumn gorge
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I have crouch on mouse4

outer tendon
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Or make it require stamina

autumn gorge
#

and just spam that shit

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my ammo barely goes down

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while shooting the t1

tawdry arrow
#

its not even barely

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your ammo doesnt go down

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on shotguns/geist

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if you do it properly

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the new wall bounce shit with superior stam gives you like

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insane rotation speed between lanes

autumn gorge
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only works coming out of rails tho

tawdry arrow
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yeah idk how the momentum works

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since i was told you dont keep momentum with bounces

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its neat but i think leap is still just

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faster for ganks

autumn gorge
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or just be seven and fly across the map

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I swear that champ late game needs to be gutted

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and he was on my team too

tawdry arrow
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seven isnt even good

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in higher mmr

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infernus is just better

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i think even after 2 no longer giving you slow immunity

outer tendon
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I'm pretty sure seven is one of the higher rated characters

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Even in high mmr

tawdry arrow
#

hes like a solid mid tier

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iirc

outer tendon
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I dunno why that idiotic character gets a fucking stun

tawdry arrow
#

but its like, why would you play worse infernus unless you have to

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infernus is the same niche and has 4 spells

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7 doesnt have a 1 and doesnt have an ult

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he also doesnt even have 100% uptime on spirit damage on autos unless you invest in a 3k purple

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all infernus has to do is proc afterburn

autumn gorge
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23ms

tawdry arrow
#

thats only out of combat

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he loses most of it in combat

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probably like half of that or more is coming from the purple items

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i see boundless and esca

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and curse

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im assuming surge of power is on 3

autumn gorge
#

yeah it's on 3

tawdry arrow
#

again its like

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fast out of combat

autumn gorge
#

he goes down to 19m/s

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during combat

tawdry arrow
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or fast + fucking slow immune ( now slow resist) and slowing aoe trail

autumn gorge
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put it into perspective

tawdry arrow
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aoe stun ult or get instakilled ult

autumn gorge
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rails put you at 18m/s

tawdry arrow
#

it also doesnt help

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people constantly undervalue mystic slow

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and slowing bullets

autumn gorge
#

you can get to 26m/s on him

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if you get divine barrier

tawdry arrow
#

do you have enough active slots for that

autumn gorge
#

yeah

tawdry arrow
#

might as well just heroic aura

autumn gorge
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it fills the last one

tawdry arrow
#

bullet lifesteal

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and ms

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fleet, heroic, i see curse in that picture, +1

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i think i would prob get knockdown or metalskin/bkb

autumn gorge
#

ok

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heroic aura puts you at 23m/s

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during combat

#

this build not even that expensive

#

pretty much 4 slots left

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can get rid of basic mag

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and whatever this is

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I forget

tawdry arrow
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infuser

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gives you spirit lifesteal on active

solar fiber
#

@heavy falcon

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im gonna be swapping out the deadlock icon eventually, so if u have fanart u wanna share. itd be cool

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(not directed at cookie)

keen heath
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just went against the most toxic team ever

#

it was unplayable

#

4 tanks with a paradox and a seven

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and i ended upo with haze who nis my lowest prio hero

#

you can imagine how that went lol

#

literally couldnt do a thing all game had to play super far back because my ult was useless lol

autumn gorge
#

yeah that game unplayable as haze

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you had to rush silencer

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and focus pig or goo guy

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paradox too

#

but if they never alone it's gg

keen heath
#

zzzzzzzzzzzz

#

8 losses and 1 win today

solar fiber
#

what is happening

keen heath
#

every game im laning against cancer

#

i haver to leave and open lane

solar fiber
#

is it still mcgin

keen heath
#

when i get her

solar fiber
keen heath
#

like 6 of the games were mcginnis 1 lady 2 haze

#

how my current game is going

#

seven and yamato kept ganking me

#

and then bebop would get free pulls

#

my favorite is when beboip stands on the bridge

#

pulls me and knocks me backward into his guardian

#

from my own guardian

#

like

#

its so stupid

#

i almost smash my monitor

#

that shouldnt be a thing

#

imagine if blitz in league could pull you from your tower to his tower

#

like wtf

#

how is this balanced

#

every game has been like this

#

just one sided stomps

#

about to uninstall

#

its so boring

keen heath
#

UltiSip then i have games like these where i kill like 6 enemies in a row lol

#

UltiSip one sided game again lol i had like 11k souls to spend at the end lol

#

they all just kept walking into my minigun

#

felt like i was playing vs very easy bots

#

like the last death i had was because i greeded and got stunned by walker lol

outer tendon
#

You're not likely to find well balanced games in an alpha

#

which is why valve doesn't want people tracking every little thing

#

and people are putting way too much emphasis into specific things when the game isn't even close to finished

keen heath
#

yeah its just boring when every match is a stomp lol

#

like i felt bad playing that last game because it felt like i was just killing noobs lol

#

they couldnt even leave their spawn

#

i was in there base for like 5 mins straight not even attacking patron just killing the players because spawn timers were still short lol

tawdry arrow
#

Infinite ammo sliding needs to go

#

First shiv now this

autumn gorge
#

yeah it's so fair

#

to move at rail speed while shooting

#

can just nonstop slide

tawdry arrow
#

That's a sliding ammo problem

#

Also why people should be building mystic slow

autumn gorge
#

even if it wasn't an ammo problem

#

who can shoot this

#

18m/s

tawdry arrow
#

Most people with an auto can

autumn gorge
#

hitbox on the ground

tawdry arrow
#

Idk maybe I'm just too used to tracing with r99 in apex

#

The moment he takes damage he loses like half the ms

#

You can also see the average ult cast in high mmr for 7

autumn gorge
#

his ult is irrelevant

#

meme ult

#

the char is already strong with just stun and free tesla bullets

tawdry arrow
#

2 button hero

#

Even I can play it

#

I think unironically Titanic is better than qsr