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maybe when they completely change the meta they can revert every single nerf
now do the same to corki
2 months of being good in pro play
or actually nerf the shit out of vlad already
if the champ was that good how is one nerf making her a 46% wr pick
clearly the kit wasnt that good lol
because she got multiple nerfs both directly and indirectly
thats clearly is a phreak moment tho bad example imo
tristana is nerfed once and becomes the undebatable worst champ in the game
completely adjusted champs tend to be like that it seems
there are a lot of champs that wouldnt die with one nerf
i think its probably because they wanted to make sure she is not meta anymore
because she has been 100% presence for too long
its kinda their fault for not touching her earlier
i am kinda confident thats why
yeah and when the meta is different surely they will revert every single change
and not keep her 46% winrate
the meta is not that different rn imo probably next patch and onwards
you just pick zeri lucian etc mid instead of tristana rn 
surely she doesnt have her champion identity ruined forever
going out of mana in lane
on a champ that doesnt scale
that would suck
tristana scales tho
eh thats a stretch
no its just obvious that some champs are balanced around getting more farm than others
you could say that she gets worse over time when she gets ahead early
which is true yeah
but she doesnt necessarily not scale
sylas cant hit waves and loses a ton of farm on average
but he still has a good winrate
tristana can hit every single minion in a laning phase
well thats what being good skirmisher with insane ap ratios do to a champ
ok but surely u understand what i am getting at
its true that tristana needs to get ahead compared to lets say sylas yeah
but she doesnt not scale is what i am trying to say
tristana doesnt have good scaling she can just get a lot of gold every single game
she is still definitely a threat on 4 5 6 items
thats not actual scaling
her scaling is really bad without items
and even with items its worse than other champions with the same items
especially other marksmens
scale better with the same items as her
i think thats like true and not true
some adcs are definitely stronger than tristana late game but not too many of them
if tristana has no earlygame and worse scaling than almost every champ in the game how can you even play the game
she has insane midgame tho
no she doesnt lol
she does
wow she can kill towers in mid game
she is absolutely stronger than almost everyone on the map from 1 to 3 items
i hope my team lets me kill towers and the other team does too
that is not true LOL
it is tho
how tho she literally overkills any squishy with kraken
she gets 0 ad from her second item bro
yeah but that doesnt make her not oneshot squishies
she legit does
and you know thats true
you say that like almost every other champ in the game is not strong at one item bro
i mean i am confident that not many champions can easily oneshot a squishy without having to use ult
like very confident
she basically has no cd issue early to mid game because she doesnt rely on her ult at all
and if you play good your w almost always has a reset
bro if ur a squishy with nothing up down summoners and get into range of tristana with no teammates near you why do you deserve to not die
tristana is broken because she uhhh plays the game
like almost every other champion
XD
but thats legit not true
tristana plays the game yeah and not many champion can do the same thing as tristana does
by playing the game
every single play is swinged by ult
have you even played this champ
i have played against her and watched being played a bit too many times
yeah and you would know her ult matters in every single play
and matchup
and teamfight
no in every single thing you do
if im on sidelane without ult
i am not winning a single play there
tristana has significant edge over almost anyone
on the map 1 to 3 items
is my point
and i dont think tristana excels on 1v1s anyway
she gets much weaker at 2 items lol
if you are even then yea
if you are not 1k+ gold ahead on akshan (probably even more) you are legit worthless the entire game
ok thats not scaling then though
if you need to be up 1k gold to be useful you do not have good scaling
no but scaling is a different topic
well we are shifting away from it then 
at best
the thing is
akshan and tristana has
weird scaling curves
than rest of the champ roster
so its weird to compare it like that compared to others
my point is that if tristana doesnt have a good earlygame she doesnt have a champ identity
like yeah on paper you are right that she doesnt scale that much if she needs to be ahead but its not true for neither akshan nor trist
thats relatively true yeah
but the issue is having absolute dominance and not
every single mage in the game will out perform her at 3 or 4 items
its also the fact that rn adcs are significantly stronger than any other champion in the game
like its objectively true (not in isolation 1v1 of course)
someone was gonna take the bullet because corki trist presence and strength was absurd
it should have been both corki and tristana but they didnt touch corki
or instead of ruining the game for anyone who actually wants to play the champ they could do an actual meta shift
but i guess one tricking is illegal
how long is too long
like a few months
if we just look at soloq she has been strong for maybe almost all year
proplay was 2 or 3? months
but i think absorb life and after she has been broken
compared to before this patch
completely broken
her items were not good
when she had to go kraken navori bt
she had even worse scaling than now
you were stuck on 370 ms all game as well
she was good in season 13
and then they nerfed every single item
rune
and her base stats
over 8 patches
yeah so i kinda understand why they did that
she was not good in split 2 of s13
she was not good in split 1 of s14
she was good for 1 or 2 patches in s13 split 1
whats not good tho
solo queue
i think you could say 49% is not good but its not bad either
and the main thing is she had high presence last season for a decent amount of time and a very high presence this season if we look overall
or shes super weak
she has a low skill floor
every low skill floor champ shouldnt be sitting in red winrates below 49%
or they are just terrible
in pro play
or 50
she was not even picked that much
in solo queue
because she was way worse outside of pro
even then
i mean her not being picked that much doesnt mean she was weak tho
she wasnt weak she just wasnt good
i agree tho she shouldnt be 45% wr lol
she was mediocre
if tristana is below 49% winrate she is extremely weak
its worse than any other champ in the game
i think master+ she should be 49% wr
i doubt it will go over 47% winrate
easy champions should never go above 50 in high elo or you get shit like garen malphite
ok lets say 50.5
should be the highest possible ever wr
tristanas skill ceiling is like medium-high
but its not gonna change much
if her earlygame is just bad
and hard champs
phreak will talk about it in the next video prob
yeah
oh yeah surely
they dont just let my champ
the weakest champ
and most hated champ
in the game
be dead midlane
forever
im sure nobody wants that to happen
i personally wouldnt mind it 
nah as in
he will talk about how overnerfed tristna is or isnt
according to balance team
yea probably for a while they wont
what are your thoughts on tristana mid/adc being one of the lowest winrates in the game
august long ago said that tristana needs a rework btw
to a midlaner
hopefully
because nobody plays her adc
statistically
all mains play her mid
he said the winrates are lower than they seem
because people just arent drafting well
Xd
like i am convinced this subhuman retard that works at riot didnt even understand my question
riot doesnt even know how hard they killed my character
completely unaware company

august is chill bro relax
they will force her to be an adc
at best
which will completely ruin the game for me
even worse than now probably
instead of just making her an actual midlaner
giving her better scaling and a more balanced lane phase
so she isnt a pro skewed character
i doubt they will rework her anytime soon tho
do you know what he said about reworking tristana
i havent seen a clip of him saying that
this was month ago
he said like
over the years we shifted tristanas power too much into her e and its making her very toxic
e damage primarily early game
yeah i think they should nerf her e damage early
and buff her scaling by a lot
personally
not really bro
she would be a safe pick mid
that can go even and scale well
you have a repeating dash and knockback ult
it would just be ad azir
midlaners are not even playing to kill eachother
im thinking
like if she was weaker early game she is like the shittiest champion in mid
imagine trying to play skirmishes etc on tristana if she didnt have a decent threat early
just pick zeri mid
she doesnt provide anything with less early game value on mid imo
she wouldnt do 0 dmg lol
just a lot less until level 6
and then scale better out of lane
there are so many midlaners that do nothing early
im betting they dont even do a real rework though
they will probably just give her power back
that only helps her botlane
in some way
like lucians passive
probably
or she will stay the worst champ in the game in 2 roles
nah for sure they wont august isnt even in the sr team anymore
phreak said they only wanted to buff her for botlane lol
its so disturbing
how they force her to be an adc
for the 2% pickrate
and 0 mains
that play her
im just going to play mages because they have a even lower skill floor than tristana anyways
ye mages are so hard to play
i just gotta uhhh
press one spell
in a teamfight
for 100000 damage
kek
thats harder than tristana for sure
mantis finally stops being an otp
a new era begins in the history of league of legends

i already played a game of vex on my d1 low masters smurf yesterday
first game of vex ever
mages are hard kappa fucking penis
i want to play irelia mid
but she might have the highest skill floor
of any champ
in the game
so i will hold off on that for now
i think irelia actually has it easier
how shes full melee
she has really high agency against mobile champs
whereas jayce has almost no agency
and irelia mechanics are relatively easy to execute compared to jayce
like you dont need to be irelking
you probably do if you want to one trick her to challenger though
or even gm
there are so many more jayce players
in high elo
in all regions
compared to what irelia players
mid or top
isnt he played in both just more top than mid recently
and wouldnt toplane jayce be harder to play
yeah so much harder thats why i was aking
jayce seems like a character that you can just like
also jayce has consistenly so much worse wr than irelia
for years
with almost the same pr
learn once and be good at him if you are already good at the game
how come hes in so many pro champ pools then
i always see pros in streamers games playing him idk
picking jayce just to go even is something
and playing it like zeus is another
its unironically two different worlds
cant irelia never play to go even
you have to perform on irelia
every single game
or the champ just doesnt work
because you are full melee and the only thing you do is all in
and you dont scale very well
what if you want to otp her though or main her
you have to perform
but then its not even easy to do tuat
its not that bad tbh
it also depends on meta but
if she is alright
its not that hard to perform on her
if you play around your spikes its chill
but you are not allowed to die
similar to jayce
kinda
and if you miss you just lose
her e is actually not that hard to land
its about timings tbh
you can still win trades without landing e but it a lot harder of course
minion positions etc matters a lot there is a huge variance
in her gameplay
like unpredictable variance so to say
thats the most difficult part in her gameplay imo
i feel like jayce is more straightforward
what is hard about jayce
is it because he does different things in every teamfight
jayce is like
the epitome of glasscannon on top
he needs to space perfectly or he gets punished instantly
he needs to land all of his ranged qs or he cant kill shit
he needs to control wave insanely well while using aoe spells without finishing up all of his mana or the waves are perma shoved in
he has no escape tools from ganks
he is sooo hard to play its crazy
he seems tanky but he actually is super squishy vs top champs
just watch a couple zeus vods tbh
like some bad matchups and some good ones
and play another western jayce
pretty much
he probably didnt play that many games 
doubtful
i am actually not sure how many gaves were played on that account
it is so strange to me
though
that the tristana nerfs
the week before the patch
were completely different
than the ones that got shipped to live
that almost never happens
what is up with that
did someone on the balance team get a hate boner last second
they probably thought those nerfs werent enough to completely remove her from the meta
but for tristana i dont think you use your spells that much in proplay because the opponent doesnt have as many openings
no you spam q
on every wave
in pro
cuz there are no other options
riot themselves said
trist q is pressed
yeah but she doesnt use anything else tho right
more in solo queue but thats why they lowered the mana
i meam
if the nerf was worse for solo queue
like ur saying
riot horribly failed at their jobs
because the problem is mainly pro play
if trist in solo queue is a problem
what can you call it in pro play
its just worse
hmm idk
dont remember ever seeing her run out of mana
but at the same if feels like she never uses w proplay laning
you are resetting more and fighting more in solo queue
which means you will base more often
whats the w mana change tho
yea thats a pro nerf tho
if they dont use w in pro
didnt know they lowered w mana
and also q more in pro
yeah but i dont think they
makes sense that its a pro nerf
did the numbers
properly
because she is
dead in solo queue
definitely a over nerf
q could cost 30 mana
she definitely runs out of mana instantly in soloq
and she would still be
nerfed by a lot
it doesnt even make sense
that q costs the same mana
as w and e
either way
how is give attack speed
costing that much mana
anyways
it doesnt even seem intuitive
maybe they simply dont want to allow her to use q for waveclear
the as bonus is so huge tho
compare it with other as bonus spells
the duration and as number starting from lv1
is insane
it makes sense that it requires mana tbh
then why do those champs have a > 46% wr
they need to lower the q mana
and probably revert the as nerf
or thechamp is dead
forever probably
cant see the mana changes being fixable
do you know how to fix the champ
if you pop the e with autos refund the e mana
perfect solution
q is still heavily mana nerfed so you cant mindlessly spam
but now you can w in more easily because well your e has 0 mana
game is fixed

its chill broooo hop on the lucian mid train
thats for my low masters account
thats all of your accounts tho 
mantis finally maining mages 
Mages are too braindead
mantis viktor arc
jesus
my champ
is so bad
its insane
LOL
cant eve nebeat
a nasus mikd
low masters
shitter
nasus is broken tho
its just a team gap
anyways
yeah im just
uninstalling
after this game
its all good
lol
ium going to cry
yappening
New season still shit 
kennen is a good champ
and he probably got it on a weaker server
like euw
Idk i saw on t1 stream
who is carrying me out of gold 4
15% as nerf
and 50 mana
for 50% attack speed
XDDDDD
worst spell
in the game
i think
MF
w
costs
less
mana
and gives
more
as
and movement speed
and HAS A PASSIVE
i wonder why trist has a 46% wr
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what is this XD
oh we are just farming content
for our audience
i get it
people will just go online and say anything for more subs views likes
azzapp should stop trying to be funny and leave it to other streamers
😭 he is not farming tho
he is
or he would have an actual rational opinion
idk why eu players think they have the right to call themselves a better region than other people
eu doesnt even win in pro play
this ego is undeserved and misplaced
i dont think azzapp really cares or believes in anything he said
hes just saying it for content though
the sad part is the comment section
i know all of these people are emerald at best and think they wouldnt be dogshit if they played on NA
so funny to me
people just love putting themselves above others when it comes to things they are apart of
degenerate cringe behavior
😭
there was some retard in sanchs chat a few weeks ago
who was trying to backseat and doubt sanch
and he was like "im emerald 1 euw btw"
and sanch put the retard in his place so fast
absolutely hilarious to watch
how confidently wrong people can be
the thing is
backseating can be cringe
but the streamer not trying to prove the chatter wrong
and calling him a retard
shitter
subhuman
is also inflated
ego
sanch doesnt / didnt do that
behaviour
he just said there is no difference between euw and na
and that the chatter was wrong for thinking that
sanch got gm in euw btw
and in kr
i would probably believe
someone from KR
wether NA or EUW is better
because ppl from their own region
have too much
pride
and ego
on their server
someone from a region other than those 2
would be believable
even korean players
say crazy shit
about their own region
@kippy linked an article
of some pro saying
plat 2 korea was like
garena challenger
just absolutely crazy shit
ye but someone with high credibility
obviously
maybe from the pro scene
that doesnt play the game
for content
or isnt a content creator
its why i stopped watching agurin
too much ego
its so nasty
i think anyone who brings up this argument for no good reason is just hurting their credibility
in my opinion
if i see someone putting down entire regions with no facts / rational argument
or reason to do so
it makes you way less credible in my eyes
no matter who you are
already breaking up 😭
the ult takes a looooooot of practice for me
i wanna simp so bad
but this kit is poopoo
feels like a a lot of champs have been that way
most recently
bel veth
is another
all over the place
champ
too difficult for these retards to design a champ
why do you have zed akali and riven mastery
no way u were a zed akali riven main
all at the same time
you wanted to be the main character
SOOOO badly
zed(when he was broken), riven("imma try to 1 trick riven because she's hot then got ego checked") and akali was pre rework
zed was fake skill champ back then
still is
but way more
before
but i used to spam the champ
touhou boss
aight
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play riven
man every game needs a porn version
of it
idk bro
do what the koreans are doing
i dont even know what the koreans are doing
making porn games
might first time aurora in normals later
after losing my entire tower to a ziggs in lane
i never wanted to queue league again
but its all good now
poggers!

Trying to get a game with aurora is aids
Mfers keep banning
She ain't that strong

Draft does the same
in quickplay there are no bans
its like they want me to go play ranked
with the new champ
to actually practice
XD
Play 5 stack norms 
Quick play nah fam
ye qp kinda cancer
One game = 7 days for diamond
But master+ it's one game a day
GOD IS REAL

blah blahblah
i suck at ahri
blah blahblah
these champs are easy
(i play ahri)
(i play in d4 a low skill bracket)
i genuinely hope this guy gets killed
he just spews shitty takes everywhere he goes the peak of being a negative league player
im about to spectate this guys gameplay and clip how bad it is and reply to every single post he makes
just so we know what caliber of player we are dealing with
bro this guy genuinely thinks ahri is weak and a hard champion to play
and thats whats holding him back
and hes DIAMOND 4
bro excaliberprime exists and he leaves low diamond
how can this guy be so shit at the game and complain about the meta this hard
is this better or worse than the 1100 gold one
i cant tell
im still gonna buy this item in a lot of lanes
I mean it's simply worse because it costs 100 more gold
They will probably perform about the same
all the t2 boots just cost 100 more next patch if they decide to ship it to live
Except for greaves and purple boots
I thought u were referring to the old one before the current one
And yea idk why tabis is 1k gold now

waiting on any news
for tristanas compensation buffs
she genuinely feels like the worst champ in the game rn
because she is
in 2 roles

👀
is trist mid viable
maybe i do a quick challenger peak in WR
surely its easier becuase its on mobile

ive played it
before
i was emerald when i was like
gold
in pc
the ranking system is also easier to climb
Haven't checked the patch notes, but she's still strong. The previous ones didn't had tristana on them
have you seen her mid before

i might try to cook something up
see if it works
gonna reinstall wild rift
Not really, all I see is assassins and lissandras
They made ravenous hydra in this game as a boot enchant 
Bruh
uhhhh
i dont think i will play wild rift
on euw
i will get on swarm though
The event is pretty generous right now. Giving away orange gemstones, getting legendary skin is possible.
Gacha 
nah
an image i wil never see in my client
top 0.1
😦
toxicity is bad
last time i was toxic the person decided to run it down from tilting

I got these for now
not a perfect
perfects no kills no objectives
still though
geng getting stomped this hard on domestic
WTF
no fucking way
💀
holy shit they took the first game as well
LMAO
i died 3 times
cuz i couldnt clear the wave
and ur just
sitting in
1000 enemies
and not dyinjg
ayoo showmaker lb
showmaker not fucking around today
gnar blind
ult to heal to full
kek
bro i die
to like
3 attacks
and briar can just
sit in 100000 monsters
chilling


















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