#Zenless Zone Zero
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implying ananta won't become a slop
as far as i see it's a better slop than NTE though at least
yeah NTE is dead
but still the game is not out
they always make it look good in trailers
dru


tower of fantasy devs are on edge
fail on both games
is that a fucking milet song
for the trailer
this game might be peak
this is just better nte 
nothing will fix their TOF mmd models
they look like indie vtuber vrchat models
yeah milet
nah I waiting to try it out
but I would give out their effort and quality

better than NTE
i hold no opinions. wait until closed beta at least 
typical weebo
just remember NTE's trailer went viral earlier this year
and now poeple played the closed beta and its different
GTA 6 + spider man
most post character
true but u never liked anything anyway
dying game no one even talking about the upcoming stream
oh there's a stream today
that miyabi story art is so good
YAAY
oh damn
swtRawr BEGGING
ok and?
she's like one of the only normal gacha content creators 
all the others have some sort of autism
probably the only normal one
true
I like fast minigame eevents
Aether Gazer is that
sounds not good
Free 5 star 
harumasa
oh damn he's free
they made him lore accurate
free male YAAY
how could they have hidden this?
easy to input codes
his wengine is a fucking pill box
you need meds to play him
this eyeglasses guy is too obvious staring at his teleprompter

oh nice coffee shop has a +60 and 1 time double drop option now
so I can do 3x 100 stams
separate ultimates 
this changes everything 

seperate ultimates just sound ass 
cool patch
oh it's just for abyss 
as always
some of them barely do anything anyway
new option for power creep
gotta replace old units with equivalent new units but CRAZY new ULTIMATES
support ult gives energy, can be useful
and stun ult too
they didnt do anything, just in comparison with damage ult
sex update
I've been playing a lot of "actual" games nowadays though I'm kinda burnt out spending stamina everyday in zzz 


yeeeeeeeeeees
havent spent stamina for a week

you can play snake with miyabi 
literal dating sim feature
spending time with lucy
comparing what mihoyo could do in 6 weeks of work and what I did is funny 
oh finally deleting old quest assets
HD burnice
🥵
cant wait for the end of version 1.4 when we all say the game is dogshit again 
the gacha gamer cycle
bringing da wei to the stream is a signal theyre going all in in this patch
so better be good
good cope
fucking saintontas 
Belle 
why is belle looking at me that way
belle is a freak
Wises neck tho
pretty crazy patch tbf
he done it enough times his neck muscles gave up
not wrong

all patches look the same
for every gacha
except for coomer game of course because they adding new feature of gooning
ZZZ is ecchi tag
time to play POE 2
time to play infinity nikki
free 5 star ?

ent is never ending gacha cycle
are u going to play? I curious what is your take about openworld emptyness compare to genshin wuwave openworld

I might try it
I'm gonna wait til poe2 is out of EA, I got so many games on backlog
nikki is catching stray

infinity nikki actually have better quality than ZZZ and mihoyo games
and wuwave about openworld
what games?
I have monster hunter wild
metaphor later

Metaphor but I'm burnt out so I'm putting that off for now
Romancing saga 2 remake
A lot of PS4 games on playstation plus
I actually didn't catch harumasa at first he dressed like a girl kek
Fur coat and everything
retards on reddit fighting over gachas as usual

just coom to all of them
only reason of why gacha exist 
Surely the billion dollar company will notice me 
if you played other gacha game every males have their own characteristic and details
like arknight
look gigachad
charlodt in wuwave
but devs nerft him
and erease his existance
yah
All the gigachads are middle aged men anyways
That's what Asian girls like 
nah shit looks ass than love and deep space

lighter is okish but not have details like love and deep space
guys what should i add too
i mean, lighter is one of my fav male designs on hoyo ngl, works for me
along with pompey
they'll answer your prayers next patch
lighter is the last male
Seth is not femboy for sure altho he would make a better cross dresser than the actual femboys if you ask me


can't say shit on genshin male designs because i legitimately never cared about even looking at them
and disk
yep
Femboys have lost all meanings these days
Any younger looking = femboy
You might not like what doesn't look like ass to the target market though
Just saying
i mean, i wouldn't say they look ass, i would say they look similar in body proportions, designs are not bad, it just lacks diversity
not all younger looking men are fembois
I remember of
how persona and shit
but mihoyo and pussies ass companies
not trying to make them look
unquie

oh yeah ntr

I mean, even if you say this, there's games out there that get ads and are catered to girls with really unique designs and no one gives them even the hour of the day
market is strange
like how I like granblue fantasy design wise
you can be mix market but they don't have balls to do it

Yeah and people did say them persona characters as femboys 
persona have more design than mihoyo at least

or any gacha games
which is
I don't feel hype for zzz patches because mihoyo doing the same shit like genshin unitl the game dead then they will actually make it better
also
ehhhhhhhh, not really
gachas center on design and characters more than anything (because that's all their core), many gachas have the best designs i've seen on my life out of any game
less free shit
metaphor
fantasia

I personally think cross dressing works better when it's not 'cheating' like venti
Like too feminine from the get go
i'm very slowly progging through that game don't want to get burnt out like I did p5
No contrast from the cross dressing part
What I meant is I think Joker worked, but Venti is kinda lame lol
maybe it's because i see gachas as side stuff more than anything, but idk what they could do to make it better on that sense, more than some QoL's to make the daily battery use less painful (having to do the same battle over and over again is annoying) or maybe a bit more diversity on males (the day they decide to add more)
If a game presents crossdress, yes I think so
That's why I said I think Seth makes better crossdresser than most other MHY men 
Low standards ik
Still don't surpass many Fate designs, AS designs or ark nights designs for me
, they're still giga good tho
been playing unicorn overlord lately and jeez that game got GOOD designs too
this patch is probably the limit for content that I do constantly
I really don't want to do all that shit they added on a schedule
the crit node speed up is a good move though

Yeah I think we can take it slow, there's no muscle memory or anything anyways
Idk if i go against the opinion of some gacha players, but honestly adding too much content out of nowhere would end up being way less profitable on a gacha than people thinks
i heard jena saying "more equals better" but on gacha? people normally don't grind on gachas all day long
, some barely even enter to swipe and get the cool character of the moment and that's it
that's why i always feel like gachas should center a lot on Ui/QoL's
I don't really need it to be a genre but even as an individual fanart there isn't a lot of them lol
its jenas stream so its a his word goes sort of environment but he's generally wrong on what people want. everything he says is in the context of what he thinks he would like and then extrapolating that to be what everyone else should want
for example he thinks the game would be better if it was only combat but just having that tires me out in this game
its a drag just doing combat over and over again its not really a game for only that
What can I say I have a regal taste
Try play pgr and other combat game

you will see the differences
if its just combat only I probably wont]
but I rather they make other content
Yeah, i never understood his ZZZ takes, i like ZZZ combat the most out of any mihoyo game
, but doing it over and over again is prompt to get you tired, gachas are extreme grind, that's why sweeps and autos are so necessary
I would argue with people that HSR got so extremely popular (more than genshin at some point) because it has auto and nothing else, you could NOT force my ass to deal with HSR if it didn't have auto
its not coom shit its okay you dont have to read unless you like femboys
Patrician men design discussion
i remember watching a video of comparing doing dailies on HSR vs Genshin and it got million of views and more people getting into HSR 

sheesh
jenazad said good change when they removed all TV stuffs

ngl TV stuffs is fucking aid
Company would be stupid to listen to Jena tbh
the thing is he would probably be pissed still because he'd hate all the other casual minigames you have to do for poly's and what not
or casual battles and all that
sorry sir sometime he can be right
He doesn't pay, he just wastes server space cos he plays for a long time
I see TV shit is annoying
I'd agree
if they execuse it well
there's also the stuff that people thinks that WuWa or ZZZ are doing bad when they make tens of millions a month
like, being realistic, no game is ever gonna reach Genshin/HSR levels no matter if it's the most perfect gacha in the world
HSR is turn base
is more, gachas will continue getting less money the more that comes out because people are just not gonna play 20 gachas at the same time
tv isn't annoying, it's the UI and laggy animations
and the unneeded interactions

like picking an item doesn't need a popup
well what is the point for TV tho? 
opening a door doesn't need a popup
the actual concept of a tv mode is fine but for whatever reason they've made it so much laggier than a game like shiren or any other roguelike
it's for us the protagonist to navigate the hollow with eous and assist our agents
since we cant be physically there
yeah shit is laggy
Yeah I like the concept of TV the execution is not always there
And arpeggio doesn't help
Most boring shit ever
and the thing is isolating tv mode like they did with arpeggio kinda fucks it up too
i dont think its good to have an only combat thing or an only minigame thing or an only tv mode exploration thing
you want to mix it up
Yeah somehow I don't know if the team is taking the right feedback
nikke has more better features than ZZZ somehow
Cos I know some people on Reddit said that they don't like to get interrupted with combat or some shit
but at the same time including combat in tv mode kinda sucks because you have to load the combat assets
and some other stuff
I don't really know how they'd be able to do it
That's minigame impacts stuff weebo, not for me but good for the players ig
I mean, yeah in events, but being honest Nikke could get a shit ton of QoL’s
yah but ZZZ can do something with that
Altho arpeggio in the beginning is fine too it just drags
So maybe it's just the execution part again
well it is combat game like honkai impact 3rd
you dont even have any progression on belle/wise to make tv mode have some sort of progression, I really don't like how shoved to the side they are a lot of the time
what is the point for not playing combat
maybe this main story changes it
why is poe not just 100% map grinding? why do I have to look at trees and sit down and think about what could work or what doesnt
also HSR doing good because it is turn base and quicker to play than ZZZ
because its a drag if its only rushing through maps
There are minigames though, how we forget the vampire survivor last patch
you grind for stuff and have goals

builds for bosses and min maxing
Depends tho, many people pulls for charas they never use later, some do it for collection, it ain’t always 100% combat but it is important
different play styles
That’s the thing too
more than
Zzz grind is painful
yes but if you're playing the game you're not only clicking on combat is my point. you're spending downtime thinking about how you want to build or craft or interact with whatever minigames they have
I don’t use any more batteries cause i’m tired of doing the same fight over and over again
Dis true I haven't spent stamina this week
yeah wish is why need sweep
Then again I have 9 characters moderately ready so I don't feel the need to
WuWa learning because they added the claim x2 system
And people liked it and made things way more smooth
seem like you haven't play poe and diablo
we've literally talked in the poe channel 
what do you think about combat?
I have to say on HSR - it's story seems to be a hit with the spending markets too
gacha game combat is different than real game
which
ngl TV stuff they make it so bad
Jena into PGR combat and honkai impact 3rd combat
and ngl honkai imapct 3rd combat is far better than ZZZ
but old shit and
bad luck for impact
before kaina death
the game got fuck by paywall and greedy
and more

combat is actually good
for different characters
it is same lvl as pgr
the combat systems in zzz are so much better though
just wait for them to powercreep to full screen aoe characters
Combat feel has some subjectivity to it I wouldn't say hi3 is flat right better
then it will be better honkai impact
why arent the people playing those games though for the combat
if the combat is that good it should be much more playable
Maybe Jena like an obtuse system more 
i wonder why 
well keep playing more and you guys will understand

I rather playing HSR '
at this point
Jenazad still playing HSR tho
that would have been interesting but looking at how the experience is that wouldn't have worked well
i dont think you can make a mobile roguelike work well like that
yah
I fee like ZZZ will end up like honkai impact 3rd after their new game

their new game will be peak
that will probably be when I quit zzz

I tried coming back to HSR and then I was faced with that monkey event
And I couldn't skip any of the yap
btw rougelike combat is like modify your skills like how other rouge like games have different skill unquine effect of the build
Nevermind
ZZZ is like pgr and honkai impact
i was playing that music minigame in HSR that was a bit boring
nothing very rouge like

yah hsr is bad when no skip
That and I was spoiled with wuwa and zzz models too
btw remember cycle of gacha games are new one will take away your old slops
not wrong

ZZZ at least better than hsr model
yep
unironically is my only complaint with zzz
just add a fucking sweep
it can't be that hard
they won't
they will add until the game is dead

like genshin
milking people first
let genshin die so they can finally add a skip button 
man
Get black myth wukong to win tga so mihoyo knows there's a place for real Chinese game
i want more fucking anime games with good focus on characters

they make genshin 2 and animal crossing

I'm actually playing Odin sphere now, the PS4 version
absolute peak
Vanillaware is goated
ngl Jenazad has reasonable take because gacha game need to be better no more 50/50 and slop no more mihoyo copy cat but consumers are too ass for it able to tell.
which is why we lost to love and deep space and infinity nikki

he has a good take, then a terrible take, then a good take 
in a perfect world, all gachas should cater both to collectors and tryhards, and it really ain't hard
tectone crated drama
brown dust 2 does that perfectly
but genshin shown that you can milk people and that's what gives more money

brown dust 2 is nice but it is boring because it more coomer than the content
of it self
only skins
no features

i mean, depends, there's takes and takes, but the pull system is really good
like gfl2
You're being generous with the good take ratio

everystreamers have good and bad takes or they want drama

what i mean is, a pull system that allows people to get mayority of characters, but at the same time, if you want them to be giga strong to clear endgame immediately, you can put the money
- add skins
nikke would be the closest to that
Oh I was wrong I thought you're talking about gfl
pull system and trade for dupes and unit is
good
and bd2 keep giving out free shit
is nice
better than ZZZ and mihoyo crumbs
gfl2 have challenge later but lvl 40

i prefer them to actually release charas and skins per separated
unironically
i wish snowbreak had something a bit more flashy on the gameplay side
idk what it could be tho
I think simple to combine than seperated them
Jesus this delivery event, zhuyuan with the chatgpt review
I thought it's kinda unique but it does become a balancing headache
it's unique but i feel like it kills the possibility of skins and cosmetics, which could be a good source of money for the game
- more charas = more good
there is no survey link because it is inside of the game
thats the healthy way to play
i should play less and just do whatever there is to play for the week in one day

only thing I'm constantly behind on is discs
but teh game is so easy that you dont need to max anyway
i have enough to lvl 60 a new character and their weapon
just need to farm drive discs
and zenny i guess
i always find it funny in their surveys
when they include maxing out characters as content
rate your enjoyment
you gotta spend
it's fun to me
how they make the most comfortable sweep system out of any gacha (Honkai impact 3rd)
but they can't do that shit for their main games
yeah
Did they say anything about reruns? 
nope
maybe they just didn't include it
probably me
I waiting for some news after miyabi banner
dam
try to wait for more info after miyabi banner

or you will regret it

didn't all zzz characters so far get nerfed except caesar
she could be giga powercreep like acheron release and I'd still skip 
Hot take
infinity nikki has better combat and gameplay than ZZZ


dam no one taking my bait

she isn't the chosen ones fake ear and no tail not a fox like azur lane
can't take bait when I don't even know what infinity nikki looks like 

i roll for miyabi I need ice
after that I don't think theres any reason for me to roll anymore
they super nerf then they give small buffs until release
I guess that's just how they do it now
I curious because nerfing them = make players min maxing or pull for new character and old character becom less relevant


I guess that's true
powercrept without dupes don't make them a lot money
and I see a lot people just log in and out
not min maxing
them
because able to clear content is enough

Yes 

Free child? 
free trash childe

so jenazad said ZZZ combat is more focuss on your character doing combos between 3 party team while wuthering wave focuss on enemy attack and dodging them. So which is why the combat is unfun for him
ngl I like dodging more than use space bar for parry combo
and switch another character
while parry
Wuwa has such a simplified core mechanic system that all the game is doing is testing your ability to react. Zenless core mechanics are built around your ability to understand your rotations and situations, but the game doesn't push you to have to do that yet. So you can get away with just mashing.
If Jenazad wants to feel like hes playing wuwa, tower is basically wuwa mode.
yeah tower is nice wish wuwave has that
fuck the timing
count down
he doesn't like tower in wuave and he likes the one in zzz
Also yeah ZZZ focuss on too much of core mechanic rotation and situation

it also nice but kinda stale
Actually it doesn't focus on it enough
one of my friend never using parry only dodging
Theres nothing in the game that punishes you for going on auto pilot
And theres not enough feedback from enemies
Lol
those fucker annoying
the big one keep runing away
when u have to deal with the shield ones
They are adding this in 1.4 iirc
Its the victoria ticket thing

how about making it isn't ticket
gfl2 don't have that
just sweep
done
no consumables
well how do you get the ticket
I mean
it about button
just click it without out
consumeable
like honkai impact 3rd
and pgr

I curious are those ticket easy to get or limited
remind me of Blue archive
@granite lark are u going to pull for miyabi?
need someone pulling for her and test it out

I hope the skip ticket is good and not some bullshit
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...
she is popular
yeah
🎂
HBD sir 
jeezus chirst the legs are oiled up


@last ledge your favorite streamer is streaming ZZZ
wow
no way
Bao is so hot
free batterry wowzers 
Thanks. Skipped zzz for the whole day. Fuel capped for 12+ hrs at least
sub to her fansly
gotta pay for his meds 
Miyabi feels good to play
Asaba has a small learning curve
1.4 so far is pretty solid

Asaba shits out damage
Its kinda nuts, but hes not an on fielder
Hes a burst character like Zhu
@pale flint infinity nikki is really relaxing, it's not like genshin despite looking similar. it's mostly a collecting and chore simulator, and the gacha is purely cosmetics
it's a really pretty game with a great soundtrack
it has a lot of really simple minigames as well

What would you rec if you dont have Yanagi?
Lighter and Lucy?
This can work
But I think she gets more from qingyi than anyone
You can also do lycaon soukaku
oh right i forgot about harumasa for a bit lmao
qingyi to stun and harumasa to burst during stun
what's miyabi there for then 
just to kinda on field once in a while with qingyi?
Shes the one that starts the stuns
Its not a primary and secondary dps team
They kinda put in the same work

A lot of this time, to start the chain you want to do it with Miyabi ult
is that with miyabi m0 or m2 or does it not rly matter
wonder how it's gonna be with m2 considering she's supposedly more main dps ish then
cuz i'm proooobably going for m2?
not sure yet
I can't even afford m2 these days
losing every 50/50

gonna end up being -$800
so expensive for just m2
we'll see
gonna try and pull with what I got and then maybe go from there
good thing gfl 2 is very cheap
god bless mica
i decided to give lighter 120 pulls and he decided to not show up so i'm pretty close to miyabi alrdy 
She got OF?
she got fansly
If ZZZ was game of the year
she doesnt even need clothes
just use your birthday dress, lucy
get betrothed get betrothed get betrothed

god I can't wait for Lighter 2
Imagine not spending on a gacha xdd
i rather spend on pc parts
yeah imagine not spending 8000
fucking poor
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What if you already have 10k pc
What parts do u need more
More anime mouse pads I guess
once you have 10k pc you buy 4k graphics card that they release every year just like the new iphone
they probably already have graphics cards that are 10x better than the current best and they are just breadcrumbing people every year

That's what iphone person will do, but any normal person if the pc still works u never upgrade
Do you have 4090
If you dont spend on gacha then you should have

Im saving for the next gen
and then going to splurge
Currently at 4k

I just have a separate space on my bank account where I slowly dump PC upgrade money throughout the years
I was actually gonna buy a pc with a 4090 in it but they are all out of stock
at least the ones with the configuration that i wanted
Unlucky
yeah, I was hoping to get something at a somewhat reasonable price before trade wars start happening
kinda already happening
i got a 4070 im fine

I want a 9800x3d
Knew it
It is really good
Everyone wants one
Trumps tariff shit also not helping
So now everyone is buying
whats ur current one
intel l1-gma8008s

💀
no dms u can look her up urself, her account is hoejousama
Wait is it really her?
yes ive already watched a few streams
When is next time
uhhh like in an hour and a half i think, but it's not free today , u can see why if u read posts
Ah you gonna watch it?
no i dont have money (even if its only $4)
but yea she's kinda popping off because she's top 20 leaderboard, and thats even not counting her first 2 streams which were crazy
too bad she didn't wait a couple weeks 
all her shit is pretty affordable, she's a real one
Someday leakers will be there
but yeah good for her
i would say that her prices kinda reflect someone who doesn't really care about the access to her content, the stuff that costs money is personal engagement with her and you can't leak that
idk she had trouble uploading or something. dunno anything about patreon
@terse pivot also sinder is going to start
Vexoria?
no, sinder
What is her name on that side?
doesn't have it yet i dont think
Why are they starting this trend?
all about that hustle i guess
sinder used to do asmr so it kinda makes sense
also peer influence, if your friend can do it and succeed really greatly and have a good experience then so can you right
And I guessing vtubers fan pay much to see this
bao got $20k first stream and that was just the stream donations i have no idea how many subs she has
Her chat is wild
that's what the culture is i guess, i naturally don't type anything because it makes me cringe too
but she likes it i guess
When did this even start? In November?
like a couple weeks ago
ironically melody doesn't really do anything anymore
she just has photo sets and stuff
but yea she's definitely an OG
sinder is crazy though, i'll lose so hard if its true
Havent watch her much
to me sinder has a much more powerful aura , but maybe thats just because i'm more attracted to her
amazing...
Sinder's Socials:
https://www.youtube.com/@SinderVTuber
https://www.twitch.tv/sinder
https://twitter.com/SinderVTuber
#vtuber #vtuberen #envtubers #englishvtuber #sinder #fire #fox #twitch #clip #funny #moment #smile #shorts #cute #wholesome #numi #nihmune #voice #weebcon #sing #concert #cosplay #convention
I feel the samething about Bao
any big jp vtubers i would know?
I should get a sub for Bao
i dont follow anymore
some hololive old gen did
and still do ithink
the big titty knight girl vtuber
yeah that one
has/had a separate account for that sort of stuff
theres a few more but I didn't care enough to remember
its generally either asmr or titty cam streams
on fantia i suppose
would be a safe bet
i mean most of the vtubers came from somewhere
so its a pretty safe bet some portion of them would be into that sort of stuff
and may still do it on the side
yea im not surprised at all, work experience is work experience
yooo those are massive
WTF they're massive
these japanese girls are really built different sometimes
ive never seen a random american girl just randomly have L cup boobs without being really chubby fat
best bangboo for Miyabi?
Section 6 bangboo
Always safety boo, sniffa
Take a picture
thats alooota numbers going down tho 
When the mid becomes midder. From Ellen joemama to aton C6 level?
seems to be on ellen/zhu level now
thank god, free replacement for my M6 anton
anton is actually miserable to play against anything with a real healthbar
i did, it didnt work
miyabi
when

yo the free shit they give from launch till now is enough for a limited char right
Skipyabi
skibidiyabi
Nah you'll win

finally 

LLL
Nobody talking about how much sauce Miyabi Qingyi Asaba has and its crazy
Easily the most hype comp in the game
DRAGALIA MENTIONED
Is zhuyuan gonna get retired


















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