Zenless Zone Zero

[wooden wedge]

idk

[graceful solar]

Ceasar is just a QOL if she remains as a shield/attk buffer

[thorny flame]

Nah Ceaser is first going off the drip marketing

[nimble steppe]

her combos are pretty tight actually

she's the complete opposite of zl

i'd say she's a bit more difficult than other characters in this game to play

[sullen lodge]

she has a parry so she'll at least be fun to play

[nimble steppe]

if you fuck up you lose ur buffs and they only last 3 seconds

[graceful solar]

hmmm

I'll try her on her trial

and see if I actually like her

she just needs to Parry or use her ult

[wooden wedge]

what is parry

[graceful solar]

I've been playing Ben a lot it's not that hard

even on mobile

[wooden wedge]

doesn't every character parry? that's what the character switch thing is ? or dodging at the right time? am i rarted

[graceful solar]

I'm not sure if they meant switch parry

[sullen lodge]

her skill parries too

[wooden wedge]

what is the benefit versus just dodging which results in a counterattack

[sullen lodge]

more dmg probably who knows

or more stun

i just looked it up. she has like a skill combo

where you use skill multiple times of course

and a successful parry lets her use it for free

[wooden wedge]

[sullen lodge]

https://i.imgur.com/XZPd7A4.png

[wooden wedge]

is ben like that as well, and how do you trigger his

[sullen lodge]

obviously from cn leaks so translation might be iffy and it can be changed and you know the drill

idk i don't play ben

[wooden wedge]

o

ty for the info though

[barren glade]

ben has something similar but ben's skill has 2 outcomes depending on how you use his skill

you can hold ben's skill and he'll be on a blocking stance where he gains super armor and won't flinch from an atk but can still take dmg and when he gets hit during it and you released the skill button he'll do a different skill animation compared to just spamming his skill without getting hit

you can also time his skill to block an atk and will result into the same animation as him getting hit and that's pretty much his parry

coz he doesn't take dmg if timed right

[clever acorn]

came back to zzz. the game is kinda difficult to play with controller

[raw roost]

Just a matter of getting used to it, I tried to use controller so I can have the same control in my PC and phone and now if I have to use keyboard it's awkward lol

[fleet valley]

I'm one of them :aware:

[acoustic briar]

oh nvm found whats it's used for

[fleet valley]

what it used for

ik its in the bp

evenread the desc but still

[acoustic briar]

Im restarted

[fleet valley]

i dont buy bp

[acoustic briar]

It's hard to be unlucky

[fleet valley]

a bit more

you couldve open the critical one

[acoustic briar]

critical?

[fleet valley]

the red one

i think the red one that resets

[acoustic briar]

I dont think I can even reach that

my Ice is too weak

I dont have elen

I also dont have zhu yuan

[fleet valley]

idk...

idk how to give advice

i think you can do electric team with lucy and ice but with s11

[acoustic briar]

I was wondering why Nicole could reach skill level 11 at lvl 40 I forgot I have her at C5

[fleet valley]

yea, cinema increase their skill lvl

oh yea, nicole is good too then

but no zhu...

[acoustic briar]

I can farm the equipment

fk it we ball

[fleet valley]

i guess

you can drop soukaku instead

for nicole

if you arent too lucky with soukaku

[fleet valley]

oop

now i really dont know

soukaku is good if you have lower dmg

lucy is the endgame support

gotta call the homies

@granite lark

[acoustic briar]

I just need an aether Ice team

Idk who will be the DPS for both as I only have S11

[fleet valley]

make jane doe the dps

[acoustic briar]

when she's out ofc

I also have to win the 50/50 1st

[fleet valley]

i never won the 50-50

so, idk

also, no more gems, i was going for c1 qingyi

[acoustic briar]

the only luck I got was getting qingyi's weapon at 11 pulls

[fleet valley]

i have her sig, its just, pity

wait

i won the 50-50 for that

damn, it would just be so good, if i got c1 qingyi instead, ill just skip everything

[acoustic briar]

I think im fked

[fleet valley]

2 weeks is a lot of progress

maybe, because the game is new

it'll be nothing after 6months

[acoustic briar]

[barren glade]

how did you end up getting unlucky with this one ?

[acoustic briar]

wdym

this is what I have

[barren glade]

i mean you still have the units to clear it no ? 😮

[acoustic briar]

I have the units but not the equipment

[barren glade]

you can do s11 + qingyi + lucy as 1 team and then lycaon + corin + soukaku and it doesn't really matter if you don't have the elemental bonus for it coz aslong as you build your units and you don't use them on a resisted stage then you're good to clear

[barren glade]

then get it D:

not to sound rude but if you don't play the game then it's not being unlucky but more like you didn't chose to progress coz stable node of shiyu isn't really that stat demanding and you can easily clear it with like 2 lvl 50s mainly the dps of each team and the rest at lvl 40

it would be more understandable if you said you got unlucky and couldn't progress the critical node with your units coz that's where the real stat check happens

[fleet valley]

Or Ben as dps

Like what nyxgx did

[acoustic briar]

i CAN DO IT

i JUST FKED UP

It was 20% Hp left but I only had 20 secs

[fleet valley]

She's learning

[last ledge]

at least it was standard

[fleet valley]

Lucky ahh

[acoustic briar]

I have sharkboo

only 20

[fleet valley]

Just go lvl 40

Or 50

It took too much dennies more than that

I have my butler at 40

[acoustic briar]

40 at best

im broke

[fleet valley]

Dennies is the hard wall in all hoyo game I supposed

But you'll have unlimited of it, just like Genshin endgame

[nimble steppe]

i got grace sig

from standard

at like 75 pulls

i guess i have m0r1 grace

but grace is sitting at lvl 10 and the sig will stay at lvl 0

i aint ever playing this shi

[last ledge]

why not get her to 20

[nimble steppe]

i did first ascension for free pull

[last ledge]

ah

[nimble steppe]

but im not getting her past that

[last ledge]

but shes sweaty

[fleet valley]

Just build qingyi and her

[nimble steppe]

im building qingyi rn

[acoustic briar]

[nimble steppe]

can someone screenshot floor 17

[fleet valley]

[nimble steppe]

im crafting mats rn

[raw roost]

[last ledge]

what the hell do I do with this lycaon

who do I build him with

[tawdry ocean]

wait for miyabi and hope her role doesnt get changed into a stunner

[last ledge]

i ahve to pull for someone other than caesar?

i refuse

wolf goes into the kennel

[fleet valley]

You play him just like anby

But his E can be hold for longer animation

(which also makes him immune to dmg)

[acoustic briar]

oh...

fk

eh I thought I wasnt going to play this game

[pearl lantern]

Well, I'm on a similar state

[loud orchid]

youll be fine, just be patient if you want to level every character. if i could do it you can too

once you get all to 50 you shold be able to clear that first shiyu area

you just have to do chores if you want to play this way

[fleet valley]

Wtff

All lvl 50

[raw roost]

all lv 60 soon

[loud orchid]

ya i'm working on it now

lol

I have a full time job

[last ledge]

spendie

[loud orchid]

nop

well kinda i get bp/welkin whatever they call that in this game

i don't spend on this game beyond that though

[glacial anchor]

[loud orchid]

that's a pretty fast clear

you should make a video

[glacial anchor]

ellen very scuffed
first team is just zhu being really op

[granite lark]

Hi

[alpine hound]

No way its electo weak again

Welp it was already too easy for my 2 teams

[barren glade]

man i can't wait for the thighs of calydon

also i like caesar's personality 🙂

really looking forward to her story xD

[wooden wedge]

AAAAAA burnice

[last ledge]

is caesar seriously right after jane

I dont have enough time to save

[raw roost]

king > rat 👑

[nimble steppe]

im skipping jane for that exact reason lol

[pearl lantern]

😳 that look. i guess its her instead of burnice. burnice ingame face kinda wacked

[raw roost]

why mihoyo always make limbs so small though

[sullen lodge]

get em king

[pale flint]

190 for stable channel

[last ledge]

which one is that for

[wooden wedge]

oh yay i got a random lucy

[pale flint]

for grace

[last ledge]

i see

[pale flint]

pretty much big win

[last ledge]

is the event fully unlocked yet

how many more days

[sullen lodge]

2 days

but it's the most nothingburger event ever though

like even the event game is 10 seconds of work

they literally spoil the answer every time and you'd have to actively try and avoid looking at it to not get spoiled on the "puzzle"

[wooden wedge]

sometimes they just gotta give you a freebie

i mean we just had that very extensive hollow deep dive thing

the video tuning thing was similarly quick and simple

[sullen lodge]

yeah i don't mind this event

i like quick and easy events

[pale flint]

rat girl ready

surely

[wooden wedge]

thats only 26 summons

well i wish you luck

[sullen lodge]

that does not look very ready

[barren glade]

my caesar savings 🙂

i'm skipping the rat

[last ledge]

i gambled a 10 pull to see if I could get the teapot

I did not get it

dont regret it

[barren glade]

oof

[sullen lodge]

just building pity for caesar's wengine

[last ledge]

y-you're right

caesar is just coming in the next version rightt

[barren glade]

building pity is where mistakes happens 😉

[last ledge]

so more free pulls then

[sullen lodge]

yeah caesar should be the first banner of 1.2

[last ledge]

i'll probably have enough to do a 50-50 on the character then

[barren glade]

i would've pulled for the rat if they showed someone else for 1.2 coz tbh i thought they'd be at 1.3 or later

[sullen lodge]

idk if i'm gonna end up being happy with jane but i'm still getting her

[last ledge]

look they'll rerun jane in a year or two from now

[wooden wedge]

im close to pity on everything since i tried to get ellen's weapon and zhu and failed on both

so i guess im trying both jane and weapon

should keep me safe for caesar as long as i dont get fucked

[sullen lodge]

realistically i don't even know if i'm even gonna use jane until burnice

honestly rly bad call for me to go for jane but fuck it we ball

[barren glade]

i mean realistically it's not a bad call coz jane's banner is literally going for 2 new units her and seth

so it's good value

[sullen lodge]

sure but i'll probably end up using the jane, seth, burnice team anyway

so then there's the question of, am i rly gonna spend resources on jane, seth and lucy when i might dump 2 of them in the enxt 2 banners

[barren glade]

and the fact that they pair perfectly together so you're just missing 1 unit for a full comp

[ivory spoke]

Lost the 50/50 again on Qingyi to Rina. Im so fucking done with ZZZ i have now lost every 50/50 so far.

[last ledge]

dont go brother

[sullen lodge]

[ivory spoke]

nah this is bullshit im so angry right now i dont even care if Jane Doe is guaranteed, losing every 50/50 so far is the last straw

i got $100 on my itunes account left from leftover top ups earlier. i will buy the first $99 bonus and get Jane Doe then officially quit

[sullen lodge]

w-what if you lose the 50/50 again on her

[ivory spoke]

no she is guaranteed because i lost today on Qingyi to another Rina copy

[sullen lodge]

or are you not going for qingyi anymore

oh i thought you were still gonna grab her

[ivory spoke]

no im not gonna get Qingyi then try for Jane Doe

fuck ZZZ

[wooden wedge]

why succeed at spending money and then instantly quit? just save the money for something you are enthusiastic about

[sullen lodge]

hoyo gacha rly is brutal though

with its sheer amount of fomo and with how expensive pulls are too

[ivory spoke]

no legit in all 9 gachas i played ZZZ is the only one i have lost every coin flip on limited banners

[last ledge]

that sucks man

i would have been pissed if I lost the 50/50 for my qingyi

[summer jay]

[sullen lodge]

yeah 50/50 sucks

[raw roost]

I've lost everything so far too, and no early pulls

we are dead

[summer jay]

if it makes you feel any better i lost about 6 straight hsr 50/50s

[last ledge]

i'm basically at the point where once i get caesar I'm pretty sure I don't care at all about what ever new characters that come out

[loud orchid]

I lost only one 50/50 but every S rank has been at soft pity

[last ledge]

based on the list that I've seen anyway

and I'll probably switch zzz to being a once a month thing or something

just do whatever the major event is for the month

[sullen lodge]

i will always care about new characters in a gacha

cuz everyone keeps going on about "you can clear all the content with free characters!" in damn near every gacha

but they forget that the characters ARE the content in gacha

that's where they put the most resources and marketing

that's where they expect the most money

[last ledge]

true, but I think I've made my peace with endgame content in gacha

[sullen lodge]

they clearly are the most important content lol

[summer jay]

yeah im just saving for a character i really like now

[last ledge]

I can get my fun from exploring whatever zones they add and doing the casual content

[summer jay]

im not gonna roll for a marginal upgrade to a 4 star

looking at you lingsha

[loud orchid]

characters = content is just a gambling addiction lol

[sullen lodge]

yeah it is

that's gacha

there's a reason a ton of ppl despise this genre lmao

[loud orchid]

they do release content that you can play without the "meta" teams

just requires letting go of the meta content

[sullen lodge]

that is true, devs will always release new modes and story content over time

[loud orchid]

if thats how you enjoy playing

[last ledge]

[sullen lodge]

but it still doesn't disregard that the new characters rly are most of the content in basically any gacha game

[loud orchid]

they are where the hype is

[last ledge]

if you let go of meta content/endgame content you lose the whole point of following the character treadmill

[loud orchid]

and that's on purpose

[sullen lodge]

or else they would not be the biggest money makers and the source of the revenue obviously

[last ledge]

I simply will just not be the sucker who needs to 100% shiyu

[loud orchid]

okay I will fund a lobby to make them illegal

[summer jay]

gl with that

[sullen lodge]

time to lobby up

[loud orchid]

I havent cleared a shiyu yet and i don't care when i do

[summer jay]

genshin boycotter moment

[loud orchid]

furthest i got is 4/7 i think

[summer jay]

[wooden wedge]

the incentive for actually getting characters in games such as this is fairly low in my opinion.. you just get what you think would be fun to play. not like E7 where the units you get are actually reflective of your ability to play the game

[sullen lodge]

i mean the incentive would be the character itself

that's why they put a bunch of marketing in trying to make the character look and appear appealing

like all the trailers etc

they want ppl to like these characters and then spend money on getting them

[last ledge]

i mean yeah as an overall game the characters are 100% the point, thats where most of the money is made outside of battle passes and subscriptions and what not

but you don't have to follow it is I think the point

[sullen lodge]

yeah of course you don't have to follow it

but that means youare just missing out on content then because the characters are a huge part of the content

[last ledge]

I think that just depends on your mindset on what makes games fun

[barren glade]

you can't really compare it to e7 in that sense just coz they have different gameplay and different gacha system

[last ledge]

is it completing things? playing with new mechanics? story/casual content?

I'm pretty much okay with the casual shit now

[sullen lodge]

i mean i honestly don't think that depends on the mindset, some ppl skip shiyu for example too because they don't want to grind, but that doesn't mean it's not content, it absolutely is content, just content they choose not to participate in

and that's completely fair to them

[barren glade]

you could be dumb with your e7 pulls and you won't get punished as much coz shop refresh exist to get pulls while in something like zzz every pull counts so literally the character that you pull would matter more

[sullen lodge]

but that doesn't mean it's not content

[last ledge]

i dont think any of us said it wasnt content

[sullen lodge]

i thought your mind set thing was regarding on whether characters count as content or not

i misunderstood then

[last ledge]

I mean more that the mindset lets you decide whether its mandatory to do

I just don't think it is anymore

[sullen lodge]

oh well yeah most types of content are completely optional

hell even story content is optional as you can just ignore that and do your daily and weekly loop while ignoring it too

[last ledge]

pretty much

[barren glade]

i mean at the end of the day both the character and content they come up with is equally the content of the game coz if a good/fun character exist you won't really know how good or fun they are if there's no content that would allow you to experience it

[last ledge]

I just think its a healthier game if you're able to stop caring about the endgame systems in play in the mihoyo style gachas

but its just opinions at the end of the day

[sullen lodge]

yeah, endgame content is basically made to showcase new characters and have htem shine

it's basically made to also market the new character

[barren glade]

yeah it be like that

[sullen lodge]

without it you have less reason to pull the character, and vice versa where you have less reason/fun/incentive/whatever to do the content without the character

[sullen lodge]

luckily i don't actually care too much about the endgame systems, unfortunately i do care about the characters though so i'm still out here trying to get all the new ones

[last ledge]

[raw roost]

idol robots when

[wooden wedge]

similar to genshin i'm always just gunna pull whoever i think will be enjoyable or unique to play.

[sullen lodge]

it sucks wanting to pull for meta while also wanting to pull for looks

[barren glade]

same

[sullen lodge]

i'm out here praying to god for a character i don't like that's also not crazy good to come out

i initially thought that was gonna be caesar, but then they buffed her

[last ledge]

maybe they'll nerf her

[sullen lodge]

honestly even with my desire to be able to skip caesar aside, she seems so fucking good like wtf how is she gonna get through unnerfed

[barren glade]

tbh before they announced her and before the leaks of her came out i was already her salesman xD

[last ledge]

I just like swords and shields

[barren glade]

i just liked her design specially her weapon

[last ledge]

that was my only reason

[sullen lodge]

i actually liked her from the launch trailer but kind of lost interest on reveal and when he animations were leaked

[barren glade]

like before the leaks of her came out i knew she'd be a defense unit but i just don't know what element she'll be just based of her weapon

[sullen lodge]

but she does have a parry which is always cool in my book

[barren glade]

since ben was the only defense unit and playing ben during the beta made me think that the future S defense unit might be crazyy

[sullen lodge]

imagine what the future S support unit is gonna look like

i'm alrdy fucking scared

[barren glade]

i mean rina exist so you can already expect some broken limited ones

[sullen lodge]

yeah i'm definitely expecting broken lol

[barren glade]

that's why i've been reluctant on pulling for dps xD

i only pulled for zhu yuan coz i liked her design and gameplay but other wise i would've skipped her like ellen

jane was close coz anomaly's really cool coz it's like a special dps but then they announced caesar 😦

[sullen lodge]

i went for ellen cuz i got lycaon from beginner banner and i did not want to go through all the content in the game with like billy or corrin

then i went for zhu cuz i like her and qingyi for zhu and cuz there's seemingly no limited stunner coming any time soon after that

now i'm going for jane again cuz i rly like her

but yeah i would've probably skipped ellen had i not gotten lycaon but instead got like a dps or something

[barren glade]

tbh i wish i've gotten lycaon coz if i got him i would be running lycaon + corin + soukaku

[sullen lodge]

i don't rly care too much about the ice team and i'm pretty eager to replace them as soon as i can with something that's hopefully equally as strong at least

[barren glade]

the game instead gave me fire xD

my standard banner is koleda and s11

[sullen lodge]

t-time for ben baby

idek if ben uses koleda or s11

[barren glade]

definitely koleda if you gonna build him dmg

[wooden wedge]

i just want something different, the only real team i have is ellen lycoan and i'm just getting bored

hopefully one day i get a fire dps unit and i can also do koleda team

[barren glade]

do you have koleda ?

[wooden wedge]

i do

[barren glade]

just do ben + koleda + lucy 🙂

[wooden wedge]

lucy is damage? i just got her today

[last ledge]

i'd like koleda

instead I got lycaon

[granite lark]

My Shiyu for the week

[barren glade]

btw what's your ben stats and set ?

[wooden wedge]

can you explain where the damage comes from with these teams? i mean my gear is probably really weak and i haven't leveled skills that much but if i used anton it would be like a wet noodle yet here you have level 50 and you are advanced player

[barren glade]

depending on the gear i think it's between qingyi and ben but if lucy's also dps built then she could do some decent dmg aswell and then for the 2nd team it's basically the drill that can pierce the heavens

[barren glade]

is this 4 fire + 2 pen ?

[granite lark]

Ben is the main DPS, Lucy is a sub dps
Anton is the main

[barren glade]

ah ok

that's alot of crit dmg xD

[granite lark]

These stats are unfortunately kinda mid ngl

Believe it or not I am missing quite a bit

[barren glade]

it's still decent though i think it's more like the proportion's aren't great but over it's alot of crit rolls

[granite lark]

Ben gives himself 44% additional crit rate so the ratio is fine

Its the fact that I dont have the rolls to run main stat ER

I should be hitting around 3.6k attack with the current crit ratio I have while running main stat ER for him to be optimal

So me lacking that kinda hurts because his energy regen isn't the greatest

So he loses out on his fire damage

[steady osprey]

what are the chances to get x2 corin W-engines

[granite lark]

Dont do it

[barren glade]

yeah don't bother coz if you don't even have the gears for her to pop off then there's no used having a maxed out weapon

[steady osprey]

im a corin simp

[granite lark]

Yeah dont do it

[raw roost]

nice corn hulu

[granite lark]

I should probably 60 my anton

[barren glade]

yeah

[granite lark]

He really suffers from his poor base stats

[barren glade]

also it sucks that his kit doesn't synergize well

coz you build him crit to proc shock but shock doesn't really benefit from crit coz the dot can't crit

although his drill atk after ex skill activation is kinda nasty

[granite lark]

Most of his highest damage comes from his dodge counter

Which is unfortunately hard to constantly have access to

[raw roost]

who do you control when using ben team? and do you end up using ben's parry often

[granite lark]

Are you referring to who I play on field the most?

It would be my stunner

So Qingyi here

Ben gets his time on field during burst phases and qassist from lucy

[granite lark]

As for the parry, not as much as you would think

Ben's parry is fantastic for breaking parts of bosses like the robots

Or staggering enemies out of attacks

But the moments where I would need to do that, I would be better off dodging with qingyi

Plus it allows me to have the EX skill for damage during the stun phases

[raw roost]

sounds good thanks, yeah I noticed when I tried to play that comp I don't really use ben that often, was wondering if that's supposed to be

[granite lark]

Once you get the energy regen on top of the stats you need, you’ll be able play him on field more, but that requires a LOT of stat efficiency

Seth will be the same way

[steady osprey]

alright corin is god tier this ,almost everyone weak to phys

[granite lark]

Nice

[steady osprey]

👍

[raw roost]

i want to build so many units i like how zhu yuan plays corin seems to be similar

[sullen lodge]

hopefully i can build some more units too after i've done some prep prefarming mats for jane and caesar

as for this shiyu i'll just bruteforce it with the standard ellen and zhu teams for now

[barren glade]

my 17 clear time kinda sucks :l

[granite lark]

I cant wait for main dps seth

He’ll actually go crazy with the team I want to run

[barren glade]

i want main dps caesar 😦

[granite lark]

You might need cons for that one chief

[barren glade]

yeah

[granite lark]

Seth, Qingyi, Nicole

Double Qassist

Unbreakable rotations

I’m so ready

[barren glade]

yeah that would be nice

btw does seth have a parry with his ex skill ? i never really tried him much in the story coz i just speed through it xD

[sullen lodge]

i don't think he does

[barren glade]

all i know is he charges it and gains super armor while charging but could still take dmg

[sullen lodge]

yeah superarmour and just a combo thing, i don't think he gets anything off using it to block stuff that i can remember from his descriptions

[granite lark]

Not a parry, just super armor

A lot of his kit is super armor with damage reduction

Thats why I’m building a second big cylinder for him

[barren glade]

i see

his combos are kinda cool though

i really liked his charge blade playstyle

[granite lark]

The only thing I'm not a fan of is how much his damage relies on his meter

Well that and the fact that the ender for that finisher is 2 hits instead of just one big hit

[barren glade]

also doesn't he have like a pause after doing his big hit ?

it would be nice if you can combo it to another atk

[sullen lodge]

https://i.imgur.com/AAtIwMk.png

wtf

that's mean

[granite lark]

You can just take whoever you want lol

They aren't that powerful ngl

[sullen lodge]

you right

it took zhu team 25 seconds in the first stage

the boss wasn't weak to ether dmg at all

so maybe double weakness might just mean like the mobs are weak to ether and the boss is weak to ice or something?

[barren glade]

you can check their individual weakness

[sullen lodge]

wait a minute i'm blind, i thought those were enemy resistances

[steady osprey]

[fleet valley]

fuckkk

i want to build bennn

[alpine hound]

Surely I'll finally get my anby to max dupe

Im halfway there

My last few standard pulls have been mostly a rank engines

[sullen lodge]

i wonder how caesar is gonna be with jane

obviously seth synergizes much better

but perhaps caesar's numbers are just too good to still not use with caesar, wonder how that's gonna end up

[nimble steppe]

seth is way better iirc

he shreds anomaly res and gives extra anomaly buildup

he's definitely way better

[thorny flame]

I think ceasar would be plenty good too
jane - burnice - ceasar

[nimble steppe]

oh shes good as well for sure

i just think seth is better

[terse pivot]

When is rat fucker out?

[wooden wedge]

wednesday

[granite lark]

Caesar is better

Additional Anomaly build up on anomaly characters means practically nothing since they already have high build within their kits and theres a CD between procs. If there was no CD then absolutely seth

Caeser buffs attack and drops attribute res

Only reason why Seth would be better for jane here is for the proficiency so she can crit her assaults more often

[nimble steppe]

it does mean alot lol

if u didnt know anomaly bars keep increasing with each anomaly trigger

[granite lark]

When running with a character like Jane who melts with her crits, it really doesn't

[barren glade]

btw what do you mean there's a cd between procs ? isn't the anomaly down time pretty much means you're just rebuilding up the bar to proc it and so having a faster build up just means it lowers the down time between procs ?

[granite lark]

When you proc anomaly, there is a cooldown until the same anomaly can proc again

Even when the gauge is filled to max after the first proc

Its around 3 seconds

[barren glade]

hmmm i don't think i've ever seen that coz how come electric team with grace + rina can infinitely shock an enemy if there's a cooldown between procs and that combo is literally the fastest anomaly application

idk if you're just mistaking assault procs as having a cooldown coz it's application is different than the other anomalies

[granite lark]

https://youtu.be/9xhUjw048F4?si=uOso3-ui9cpdd3iR&t=303

[barren glade]

doesn't disorder fix the cd like he said ?

coz the purpose of anomaly team isn't fielding one unit spamming the anomaly but triggering disorder in rotation

[granite lark]

Disorder doesn't fix the CD. It resets it.

Once you proc disorder its still a CD of 3 seconds.

[barren glade]

i see

tbh even after seeing this i still don't know why seth is bad in an anomaly team vs caesar xD

[granite lark]

Nobody said he was bad

It was seth vs caesar

They're both good

You can even run them together if you want

[barren glade]

but i think it all comes down to how much his anomaly proficiency will affect the anomaly dmg vs caesar's dmg increase

[barren glade]

isn't that what i said ? i said why he's worst than caesar in an anomaly team

[granite lark]

You said "Bad"

[barren glade]

i'll re-type it "why seth is bad in an anomaly team VS Caesar" coz you'll have to think he's bad in comparisson to another unit if you want to use the other unit over him no ?

coz you said caesar's buffs are going to be better than his in an anomaly team

[granite lark]

I dont know why you cant just say "Why is Caesar more valuable over Seth in an Anomaly team"

[barren glade]

oh yeah my b

i guess my phrasing is bad

sry about that

[granite lark]

Its fine

[barren glade]

i'm actually genuinely curious how much seth's proficiency buff affects the anomaly dmg

[granite lark]

At max he gives 100% proficiency which is just an additional 100% multiplier

[barren glade]

coz anomaly is literally an anomaly when it comes to theory crafting like it's hard to determine X amount of proficiency vs atk/dmg %

like how much proficiency would equal to like other dmg stats

oh wait i'm dumb

i was confusing proficiency and mastery xD

now that i think about it he isn't actually better than caesar in comparison coz isn't proficiency buff pretty much just faster buildup aswell ? so he doesn't really affect the anomaly's dmg that much ?

coz i thought he gives mastery lol

[granite lark]

proficiency = damage
mastery = build up

[barren glade]

wait is it ?

[granite lark]

Yes it is.

[barren glade]

oh wait my brain is definitely cooked for having being sleep deprived while at work and then killing time in discord so i don't fall asleep lol

ok so that pretty much brings me back to my other question

btw here's what i'm curious about coz if 1 anomaly is = 1% attribute dmg ? does high proficiency suffer from diminishing returns ?

[granite lark]

Depends on the comp.

High proficency is great if you have the attack stats to back it up

[barren glade]

yeah i see

[granite lark]

IE

Jane having high proficiency increases her crit rate for anomaly

Which means you're naturally investing more into proficiency on her over attack

Caesar steps in

1k attack

[barren glade]

yeah

[granite lark]

Now you have both covered

[barren glade]

now i actually understand why caesar might be more worth

wait now that i think about it

seth is actually decent aswell so you can swap the 6th disk mastery with an atk% and it wouldn't slow down your over all build up coz of him ?

but yeah caesar's buffs might still be better overall

[granite lark]

Losing 30% mastery for 30% attack + 35% seth build up vs 30% mastery + 1k raw attack boost from Caesar

[wooden wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-outpost-the-outpost-series-thecw-gulman-randall-malin-gif-12842854

[pearl lantern]

Sure, just no biting

[acoustic briar]

welp

just a few more and then I can lose my 50/50

[barren glade]

nah i believe you'll get it 🙂

gl

[fleet valley]

I also believe you'll get it 🙂

[acoustic briar]

ayaka treatment on miyabi

[vague wolf]

And I believe you'll cum

[fleet valley]

Yes

She'll cum

[acoustic briar]

I still dont get how to use this

[fleet valley]

If you have like missing skill or unit rank up item, you can use those as substitute

[acoustic briar]

do I level them up to 50

[fleet valley]

For impact, yea

It's just easier if the enemy gets stunned faster

Guys, I was doing hollow zero before reset yesterday, I had the boss like at 20% all the way from 80% but died because of that form where she got into an invincible mode and you need to destroy the tentacles

I retried like 2-3hrs but just gave in because I don't have enough dmg

[acoustic briar]

those are my only 5 stars

[fleet valley]

Then, when I looked at Ellen's sig, I probably can do it if I have it

[acoustic briar]

[fleet valley]

It's good enough, I have brimstone instead of restraint

[pearl lantern]

https://images.gamebanana.com/img/ss/mods/66d31988d6687.jpg

[fleet valley]

[summer jay]

https://x.com/kusa_cos_/status/1830477991438430454/photo/1

kusa_cos_ (@kusa_cos_) on X

Lemme order 😤
💚@__nonoli

Twitter · Sep 2, 2024, 5:28 AM

[pearl lantern]

https://youtube.com/shorts/XQ-AUJLD7ng?si=pAKSVdwS1xAwSQ9U

[twilit plume]

https://tenor.com/view/sethjane-janeseth-jane-jane-zzz-jane-doe-gif-16256217122318267861

[dusky rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/jane-doe-jane-doe-zzz-zzz-zenless-zone-zero-jane-zzz-gif-17917724572189709868

[steady osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/jane-doe-zenless-zone-zero-gif-6131494135995645838

[last ledge]

stomp the rat

i hope thats a trap next to her

SNAP

[graceful solar]

ratatouille

[glacial anchor]

https://x.com/Hoplitx/status/1830601704473289198?t=CZW1QmfeENLkq2lCxVcCow&s=19

Han2 (@Hoplitx) on X

Piper

Twitter · Sep 2, 2024, 1:40 PM

[lost rain]

random sig wep get in 1 pull!

[nimble steppe]

grats

[lost rain]

[nimble steppe]

i got it in like 75 pulls

[steady osprey]

👍

[fleet valley]

koleda forever will be in the bench

i wouldve at least be happy if they gave me furry instead

[nimble steppe]

L

[fleet valley]

[wooden wedge]

i like koleda

i have a dream that she will have a broken team comp

in the future

[glacial anchor]

she is the fastest stunner at m2

but that's long term shit

[fleet valley]

"fastest....":
"...at m2":

[wooden wedge]

its inevitable

1 year from now all these 'standard banner' units will be constellation 4+

especially the bad ones (aka qiqi zzz edition)

[fleet valley]

who is qiqi in zzz

[thorny flame]

no one

[wooden wedge]

idk, maybe nekomata

[nimble steppe]

atm nobody

but i didnt play 1.0 genshin so i have no clue how good qiqi was back then

[wooden wedge]

qiqi was initially good

[nimble steppe]

if i have to guess the character that will get useless the fastest from all the standards might be grace or rina lol

[wooden wedge]

or should i say she was the only unit in the game that provided sustain

[nimble steppe]

s11 feels like the dilluc of the game

[glacial anchor]

Rina is most underwhelming standard unit, but she just has no competition rn so might aswell use her

[nimble steppe]

she has potential to get better with newer supports

[wooden wedge]

s11 is mechanically difficult to play isn't she?

[glacial anchor]

Most of the time you play s11 with the garuanteed perfect autos

Since she gets garuanteed perfect autos after chain attack / ex / ult

It's only when you dealing with unstunned enemy

[thorny flame]

Nah jean did it better right off the bat

[wooden wedge]

you're probaly right, i'm just spreading gossip i never played genshin until last year

thats just what i heard was that qiqi was good healer

and provided a needed role in early game

[glacial anchor]

it only took one patch for diana to get released

and people just used that unit instead for second healer

[fleet valley]

Diona

https://tenor.com/view/diona-gif-19306590

[thorny flame]

Ya even Diona is better

[glacial anchor]

the gremlin cat you get it

[fleet valley]

she have glass ahh shield

(literally)

even tried building it with hp build, it doesnt work

[glacial anchor]

but yea she has ice shield which trivialized the first abyss

x10 more utility than qiqi even at early days

[thorny flame]

true but has better ice application + energy particles

[wooden wedge]

but yea back to the main point

we're probably just gunna ahve the same standard 6 units and everyone will be sick of pulling them

just like jenshine

1 year from now

[thorny flame]

maybe in a couple years they add some more

[wooden wedge]

and hopefully many of them age well

but likely they may not

[glacial anchor]

the 5* standard dps will be average ok units at m2+ with brand new supports to keep them relevant

koleda only has fast burst stun at m2 which idk how useful that is

lycaon has horrible mindscapes past m1 but his base kit is strong to not care

[wooden wedge]

im gunna have a pretty litty standard banner pull in the near future

because i'm nearing simultaneous guaranteed S and the 300 summon selector

SHES SO CUTE AAAAAAA

https://tenor.com/view/huge-bitch-deuce-bigalow-rob-schneider-gif-12618957

fuck i want them now

but i want jane

https://tenor.com/view/burnice-burnice-white-sons-of-calydon-zzz-zenless-zone-zero-gif-15760461365257280943

[lyric wadi]

@unreal sonnet has leveled up! (39 ➜ 40)

[sullen lodge]

i alrdy miss the no skirt

[wooden wedge]

@stable coral bro u gotta get in this

[sullen lodge]

my goal is still to get jane, burnice and caesar as my official team 2 but that's gonna be real costly potentially

especially since i alrdy have a functioning ellen team to begin with

[wooden wedge]

im just gunna yolo as usual

if i get someone i get them

if not it is what it is

i got plenty of genshin/e7 characters just by throwing the 10 pulls i had without saving up

[stable coral]

how do you know im not already in this?

[fleet valley]

Lurkers

[terse pivot]

Cant wait for Rat

[granite lark]

And now Seth is ready

[nimble steppe]

defense seth

[granite lark]

Only works on M6

[wooden wedge]

so you will definitely pull until M6?

very confident in your choices i see

[granite lark]

Yes

I will be Running Anton Qingyi Seth in Shiyu after he's maxed

Anton and Seth have High energy cost to play, so they're perfect to rotate between as DPS

[wooden wedge]

SIIIIUUUUU

[steady osprey]

[fleet valley]

I like them clean

[vague wolf]

I like...

[wooden wedge]

i want jane's fat bush to warm up my face this winter

[onyx anvil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WCl2mtL4eE

[wooden wedge]

feet frogs eating prime wagyu of the highest grade on this one

[steady osprey]

i wish my pp was that apple

[fleet valley]

Will you lick her feet before or after it touches your pp?

[steady osprey]

before

[fleet valley]

Kinda mysoginist

[fervent sandal]

https://i.redd.it/rcs4geknqimd1.jpeg

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/65e20ba2dacf1bc18d7adf0b/4x.webp

[steady osprey]

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/66d29cc692c7320daa3eb6cf/3x.gif

[thorny flame]

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/66d29cc692c7320daa3eb6cf/3x.gif

[wooden wedge]

i hate the forsen gifs

they look so bad it is upsetting

[fleet valley]

It's so bad it's funny tbh

Guys, she's not worth it

Don't pull

[worldly jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/forsen-ai-uganda-attack-forsen-getting-recruited-to-ugandan-army-gif-8332892978537464921

[dusky rampart]

https://imgur.com/kfD2c1z

holy

[torn elk]

tiniest bite ever

[raw roost]

Adjusting to their audience

[lyric wadi]

@raw roost has leveled up! (45 ➜ 46)

[fleet valley]

🤏

[torn elk]

naurr my smol pp

[summer jay]

jane

[vague wolf]

Shit emotes

[median igloo]

shut up

[pearl lantern]

[terse pivot]

RAT RAT RAT RAT RAT RAT

[raw roost]

Gachaaaa

[terse pivot]

No rat

No gacha

Need rat in a jar

[raw roost]

There's cat in the machine velow

I got her too coincidentally

[median igloo]

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/66c607dcfefca9b2cbfa23e5/4x.gif

[graceful solar]

edging

[summer jay]

jane cospalys

[little elk]

😋 qingyi cosplays

[fleet valley]

...

[little elk]

hot

[glacial anchor]

[little elk]

[pearl lantern]

💦 >🤰

[last ledge]

i like how she looks more

but I want caesar

maybe I'll get lucky and get both

[versed trellis]

only 1

[last ledge]

yeah you right

[versed trellis]

f2p struggle

[last ledge]

f2p||+||

except I used it all for qingyi

and zhu

jane can go eat cheese

[alpine hound]

The og busting meme had no competition

Few days left for my m6 anby

[pearl lantern]

ready for Jane Doomorrow

https://tenor.com/view/jane-doe-zenless-zone-zero-gif-6131494135995645838

[last ledge]

[pearl lantern]

why?

[last ledge]

you're right

good luck

[pearl lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/jane-doe-zzz-if-i-dont-get-jane-doe-zzz-zenless-zero-jane-doe-zenless-zone-zero-jane-doe-jane-doe-rat-gif-8569493711379466206

[last ledge]

[pearl lantern]

i havnt rolled once. its to be expected

[last ledge]

[pearl lantern]

i even bricked my acc farming dennies lamelines today

whatever. i wanna make her playable

[steady osprey]

[pale flint]

u are going to die

by 50/50

[pearl lantern]

ive more than enough

[pale flint]

[pearl lantern]

its 180 rolls for max pity

[pale flint]

how about getting her weapon tho

like lacari

[pearl lantern]

nah, f2p shouldnt go for weapons, i realised. unless i get super lucky

but kinda want cesear and burndeeznutz too. so skip for now. maybe next time

[pale flint]

[steady osprey]

wdym f2p shouldnt go for weapons

if unit is strong u should so you dont have to use build off dps units to cope with it

[acoustic briar]

she looks lovely

cries in broke

[pearl lantern]

i said on her rerun maybe.

[steady osprey]

[pearl lantern]

at the end of the day, its a ball you dont even see

[clever acorn]

https://vxtwitter.com/zzz_adm1n/status/1830824553058074986

Holy fuck the fanservice. I hope they keep doing it

But I fear I might lose the 50/50. So far I won all of them

[thorny flame]

femme fatale back on the menu

[sullen lodge]

huh so the last day they just tell you all the answers again for the event

that's weird

[pale flint]

put more effort on video than their game

[last ledge]

should have put in a challenge mode

[steady osprey]

not a bad design ngl

[wooden wedge]

shes super cute

[steady osprey]

stream it

https://tenor.com/view/jane-doe-zenless-zone-zero-gif-6131494135995645838

[glacial anchor]

good stats

[fleet valley]

nice crit rate...

[steady osprey]

dats poggers

[terse pivot]

you and me

[wooden wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/zenless-zone-zero-jane-doe-zzz-zzz-jen-doe-rats-gif-870221097271045896

[unborn hawk]

im installing

[terse pivot]

STOP SHE IS NOT CUTE

SHE IS ONLY HOT AND FUCKABLE

[wooden wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/jane-doe-zenless-zone-zero-gif-6131494135995645838

shes cute

and

sexy

https://tenor.com/view/zzz-zenless-zone-zero-jane-doe-tomiya-gif-2669398026216456766

[steady osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/jane-doe-zenless-zone-zero-gif-6131494135995645838

[graceful solar]

I can cosplay her but my body is literally built like her

just waiting for a good brand to make it

[clever acorn]

I did the same. The only reason I came back to the game is for the rat

[raw roost]

Is there a patch for Jane doe update

[steady osprey]

frree shit on mail

[wooden wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/dinkdonk-twitch-emote-twitch-emote-7tv-gif-8211740264909226291

[acoustic briar]

free shit?!

this better be good

[wooden wedge]

(it was)

[acoustic briar]

im sorry?

I'll take the exp mats

[wooden wedge]

i dont exactly know the value of the purple things

the energy is nice

[acoustic briar]

no level 20?

[raw roost]

I love how quick the daily is in this game I can't spend stamina for a few days now but I still get my daily gems

[acoustic briar]

[sullen lodge]

we got 90 in that mail so that's half an 50-60 upgrade

[acoustic briar]

level 60 is the end?

1 maxed leved unit

and im broke again

[sullen lodge]

yeah lv 60 is max

[acoustic briar]

[last ledge]

[acoustic briar]

jane is in 23 mins right?

for SEA at least

[steady osprey]

ye

[acoustic briar]

20 pulls

[worldly jungle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY5co3CNhN4

[wooden wedge]

the choking on the apple sound is nice

[fleet valley]

...

[acoustic briar]

I also can

in my dreams

[fleet valley]

Those BP and dailies poly funds could've got you her cosplay

[acoustic briar]

it's more of the body problem than a money one

[fleet valley]

I'm suspecting something, how every hot unit, Tipsy can cosplay

He is a dude

Wait, the banner changed already?

Fuck

I'm skipping her and Caesar man

I got no polys anymore

Yea, I'm a sea

[acoustic briar]

I only have 27 pulls

[fleet valley]

Can't even do 1 pull

You'll get 4 of her copies in the next 10 pull

[acoustic briar]

no

im not lucky on hoyo games

[steady osprey]

good luck

https://tenor.com/view/jane-doe-zenless-zone-zero-gif-6131494135995645838

[wooden wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/zenless-zone-zero-zzz-jane-doe-jane-rat-tail-gif-11305110123706165926

https://tenor.com/view/get-this-man-get-this-man-a-jane-doe-zzz-zzz-jane-doe-jane-doe-zzz-gif-4070755814023471008

i meant to click this one

[fleet valley]

We believe you

[wooden wedge]

please believe me

https://tenor.com/view/jane-doe-zzz-if-i-dont-get-jane-doe-zzz-zenless-zero-jane-doe-zenless-zone-zero-jane-doe-jane-doe-rat-gif-8569493711379466206

[fleet valley]

[wooden wedge]

i dont see it fucked up

seems normal

[fleet valley]

It looks too bright

[steady osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/jane-doe-zzz-if-i-dont-get-jane-doe-zzz-zenless-zero-jane-doe-zenless-zone-zero-jane-doe-jane-doe-rat-gif-8569493711379466206

[fleet valley]

Do you get her yet hululu

You seemed to be talking a lot

[acoustic briar]

Im fked

[fleet valley]

You pulled...?

[acoustic briar]

40 pulls left

[fleet valley]

[acoustic briar]

my hope

[fleet valley]

There's one more hope

The currency to mileage in standard banner

Use all of it into rainbow film

[wooden wedge]

BOGGED

[little elk]

waiting...

[steady osprey]

im from NA server lil bro i gotta wait 9hrs

[fleet valley]

NA looking at Asia dining the rat

[last ledge]

cant dine if I have no pulls

[steady osprey]

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/66d29cc692c7320daa3eb6cf/3x.gif

[acoustic briar]

[fleet valley]

+30 poly

[acoustic briar]

skill issue

[acoustic briar]

+100 that was the 2nd tab

I just finished it

[fleet valley]