#Zenless Zone Zero

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full geode
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M6 Anby

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Also y'all think M2 worth?

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Close to pity

unreal sonnet
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bro why anby getting naked in hers

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binoculous

full geode
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They all do

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same things as like E6 in HSR

nimble steppe
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her faction is japanese inspired so she's a kitsune 100%

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just like victoria is western horror inspired

alpine hound
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Sukaku built only rina left

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Also 96 pieces and all th gold ones are hp and def

full geode
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nvm off a single EZ

loud orchid
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I honestly cannot see myself pulling anything more than m0 in this game

fleet valley
fleet valley
loud orchid
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I don't even really look at the mind scape stuff

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I don't feel like I want it in this game

vague wolf
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Enty...

shell oriole
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ent more like

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entO

vague wolf
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nO

pearl lantern
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kinda meh, not as much production as genshin and rail

summer jay
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it's not by the main hoyo company

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zzz is from a fresh team

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also star rail can do whatever cos its turnbased

pearl lantern
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thats provided if you play through quest to accumulate points of cos

mental sonnet
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also wish i had ellen too

stiff flax
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i clicked one yt link in fob's stream and now i'm getting these recommended

mental sonnet
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bruh i just pulled a fucking c1 nekomiya instead of zhu

stiff flax
mental sonnet
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ggs i think im gonna have to pull out the wallet before the banner ends

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and i already stacked my welkin to max

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so im gonna have to buy monochromes

loud orchid
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just skip 4head

mental sonnet
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no

torn elk
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irrelevant in 4 months

mental sonnet
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well i would say my current top 3 favorites are ellen, nicole, and zhu in that order

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and i dont have ellen

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so i feel like i need zhu

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so bad

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i need her

loud orchid
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nicole is so unassuming for how good she is

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especially with m6

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|| @vague wolf ||

raw roost
mental sonnet
pearl lantern
raw roost
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I mean this game is deffo on the easier side but when a dog shit player was bitching the game is too easy and performed like that it's funny kek

vague wolf
alpine hound
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No way lil bro died on shiyuu

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๐Ÿ’€

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Dodgy mofo was annoying but now i can predict him easily

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Tho if you get him solo boss he seems to have completely random patter one hit dodge spam

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The only gud design mob in the game

pearl lantern
last ledge
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you should have enough poly's to get her

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unless you still can't complete most content

mental sonnet
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i lost 50/50

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im level 8

fleet valley
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Oof

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You can try using the link in pin

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To show us your progress

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(and for me to feel superior)

vague wolf
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Kaelin...

fleet valley
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Shani...

glacial anchor
fleet valley
mental sonnet
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aware

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me when i spend my college loan money on rolling for zhu

fleet valley
alpine hound
pearl lantern
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even my 0 limited rolls ass beat it

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and i havnt even started on dive disc

raw roost
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Oh I thought it's 9th, even worse

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Don't think i failed once until the 9th, that one kinda stumped me I admit I took the easy way out and waited til 40 acct lvl

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Anton was kinda cope

alpine hound
raw roost
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maybe but at least im not the one bitching the game is too easy and wiped at base shiyu

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mtashed my goat

alpine hound
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I mean mtash is trash at every game

summer jay
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kek lil bro is just not entertaining

alpine hound
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So someone did the math

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And pen is trash stat regardless of % and flat pen

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Element dmg % is better in majority of cases

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Except if your running niole and rina and dps on 5th slot pen%

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Then its 5 to 10% better

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So who ever promoted 8% 2 set is gud was spreading misinfo

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Welp I'll be getting rid of my 8% pen on my ellen

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As for now pen% is only gud if in high quantity

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So any team with rina paired dps can have 8% pen over 8% crit from 2 set if your using 4 set main element one

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So their is alot of ifs to make puffer gud

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The proof with math

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From all the options available for Disc 5 in Zenless Zone Zero, one still stands out, PEN Ratio. While it's obvious that this is going to ignore the Enemy DEF and helps you to increase your DPS, how valuable it is when compared to the DMG% option? Is 24% PEN better than 30% Elemental DMG? In this video, you're going to completely understand how ...

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pearl lantern
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its like -def right? but kinda meh

alpine hound
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Yes

loud orchid
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short sighted

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pen will definitely become important as we get enemies with higher defense

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but for now... yeah don't build it

glacial anchor
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if they put enemies with low hp but high defense, i feel like they gonna be easier cheeseable

pearl lantern
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It's all diminishing returns on stats. If the char kit has enough self damage % buff and stuff, it may be good

loud orchid
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oh it looks like that content creator realized the same thing

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good

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nice video

alpine hound
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Else always go 10% element dmg

raw roost
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how are you guys' zhu yuan crit rate / crit damage looking

loud orchid
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60%/140% currently

raw roost
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zamn mines like 44/100 Deadge how do you get to that? just artifact?

pearl lantern
mental sonnet
fleet valley
mental sonnet
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im on ps5

fleet valley
mental sonnet
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doesnt work on ps5 unfortunately

fleet valley
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oof

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ps5 users

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smh

pale flint
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little bro can't even survive in elden ring for sure

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get gate keep by tree sentinal

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this is why he is friend with tectone

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tectone quit elden ring dlc

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and he lost elden ring bet against asmongold

nimble steppe
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should be hilarious

pearl lantern
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Just c6

pale flint
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c6

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bruh want people to swipe

vague wolf
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Enty...

fleet valley
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Shani

pearl lantern
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Try a year

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Or just 2 banners with her

pale flint
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pretty much this game is easy

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classic mihoyo content creator, only work when devs make a wall for fomo

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and content for specific character

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curious that rat girl would replace piper

raw roost
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C6 is easier in this game tbh because there are only 2 4* in a banner rather than 3

pale flint
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yah for 4 stars, but I talk about 5 stars

loud orchid
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thanks

pale flint
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4 stars users are for poor and unlucky players

loud orchid
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i was conisdering skipping qingyi and that solidified it for me

pale flint
loud orchid
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saving for ratge

pale flint
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ratge for physic

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same class with piper

loud orchid
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i happen to not have piper

pale flint
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OMEGADANCEBUTFAST how

loud orchid
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dodged her and anton so far

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i have all other 4*

pale flint
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cursed u with piper and anton

loud orchid
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good luck

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i'm cursed in so many other ways

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there's like a queue of curses

pale flint
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wtf

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in any game?

loud orchid
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yes

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genshin i fail all 50/50

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star rail i spend too much

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this game max pity

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i'm like bottom 10% of pity luck in all games

pale flint
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and u have a lot of money able to swipe on the game?

loud orchid
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that would be telling

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i'm doing completely fine thank u for the concern

pale flint
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at least u are not spend widly like lacari

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-$700 on league TFT

loud orchid
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not anymore at least

vague wolf
summer jay
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the jp zzz gooner got shadowbanned on twitter

median igloo
fleet valley
worldly jungle
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last ledge
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nice cosplay

twilit plume
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Holy shit it's 2B

mental sonnet
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she is hot enough in her normal gear!

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ellen joe > 2b any day

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anby is so cool

tropic river
vague wolf
tropic river
mental sonnet
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i got lucy today for the first time

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is she good? i only have pretty basic characters to use on a team only ssr i got is nekomiya

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right now i use anby, nicole, and corin

tropic river
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she good, budget bennet

alpine hound
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I find it funny that even after 20+ runs i havent gotten a single atk% or anomaly proficient swing jazz disk 4

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Its all hp /def

median igloo
little elk
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Gladge shiyu is done all S ranked

fleet valley
last ledge
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oh okay then

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bad cosplay

fleet valley
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as good as soukaku

loud orchid
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no

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but she is a good character in general

little elk
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lucy is ๐Ÿ˜‹

pearl lantern
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shes a sweet girl Okayge

pale flint
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how about I will filled all of the girl mouths with my sweet sweet white vanila in their mouth?

pale flint
pearl lantern
pale flint
vague wolf
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oh great, u got worshipers

raw roost
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finished just in time monkaLaugh

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7 minutes on 2nd half kek

pale flint
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if u concern a lot, then I will take hina away from you.

vague wolf
pale flint
loud orchid
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boys

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it's all brain rot

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let us rot our brains together in harmony

vague wolf
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back off

pale flint
glacial anchor
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fervent sandal
pale flint
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people sure do overhyping jane doe

steady osprey
glacial anchor
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๐Ÿ’€

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well she is a good physical dps

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And a mysterious ratgirl

pale flint
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well still use able

pale flint
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or put them both on the same team

glacial anchor
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Since jane passive effects other phys units assualt triggers

pearl lantern
glacial anchor
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Jane Piper crit Assualt procs is definitely going to be better than Jane Grace disorder proc

pale flint
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gonna pull for her then

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grace is lightning and using other lightning unit for a while

mental sonnet
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second day of playing this is all i got so far

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no zhu

pale flint
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don't worry

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soon u will get better character

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keep grinding

mental sonnet
alpine hound
glacial anchor
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you wont change my opinion peepoSipW

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They both bad but i still hate how resource demanding wuwa is

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You still can get fuked like this

alpine hound
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Better then getting 4 level ups on def when you have the 3 best dps substats

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Actual L take

pale flint
# glacial anchor

skill issue ngl I rather not lvl up on same dumb stats which remind me of epic 7

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when u want it roll speed substat

alpine hound
pale flint
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ngl they need better echo farm

alpine hound
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If its bad scrap it you get 75% refund

pale flint
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and sub and mainstats stone change

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ASAP

glacial anchor
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Until they fix Tuners/Echo exp maybe but they wont

alpine hound
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0.0222222222222

glacial anchor
alpine hound
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This is the odds of getting one ideal main stat echo wit cr and cdmg

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Now tell me how high is that

glacial anchor
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at least here you only start wasting disc exp when you get the piece

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If it rolls bad you refund it once

alpine hound
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But farming gear is much easier so the only real timegate is exp and credits

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And substat level up is a very cringe concept

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Which adds way more higher level of rng

pale flint
glacial anchor
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You only need to win 2/5 times to consiered a good piece here
Wuwa you need 2/5 too (3/5 if your char needs ER)

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It's no different in my eyes

alpine hound
pale flint
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I curious how hard would it be to make a good camera like elden ring also have zoom out

alpine hound
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Cr and cdmg is the highest imp for dps

alpine hound
glacial anchor
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Ye wuwa mobile is still really bad, the targeting and camera need help there

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Unless it's a boss you can manually target

alpine hound
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Side tracking the conversation

glacial anchor
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Playing changli / Yinlin er requirement isn't same as Chang li / Taoqi

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Dont get me started with calcharo

alpine hound
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You dont need ideal rotations lmao just try to do your best with the dps like i never care about ideal yinlin rotation i just use whatever i have available

pale flint
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more optional

alpine hound
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And calcharo is too clunky so talking about him is pointless

pale flint
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ZZZ is like face rolling u still win

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one problem is killing monster fast on time

alpine hound
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Like i can get 27 stars without ideal rotation in TOA

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Even my jiyan has no recommended er

pale flint
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ngl rotation do boost a lot damage for u

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if u are into sweaty tech

glacial anchor
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But saying it's an player issue is false, since there are characters do demand a minimum requirement to be effective

Im in position on the game where that doesn't matter too

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One tapping 30/30

pale flint
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ngl I wouldn't care much about rotation on gacha game compare to MMO

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and monster hunter

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wild soon

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and real games

alpine hound
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Yeah go enjoy farming gear of 0.0060606060606 chance

pale flint
alpine hound
pale flint
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ff14

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we only farm for look

alpine hound
alpine hound
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So you proved your own argument wron

pale flint
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PepeAdmire we need mroe of this to keep this channel alive

alpine hound
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I'll argue even with hulu gear of that level ups he can probably clear all shiyuu to S if he even had the other 5 with exact same stats

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So you just take extreme form of disappointment when you get rolls like these

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Because of how extremely rare they are in zzz

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You taking an L even after a massive rng win

little elk
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Just exactly, i retried team 2 alot to carry 1 as much as possible

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๐Ÿ˜‹ lucy's thighs and midriff

steady osprey
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desuwa

steady osprey
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cheating hina

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ok ig

vague wolf
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WEIT

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I WOOD NEVA

steady osprey
little elk
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NODDERS counterside waifus

stiff flax
fleet valley
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Wise is a lucky brother

unreal sonnet
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i wonder if wise acts as unhinged as belle does sometimes if you picked him as MC

steady osprey
pearl lantern
pale flint
little elk
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FeelsWoweMan Belle

sullen lodge
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bro the random ass impact gear i started lvl for qingyi has turned into my best gear in the game pepeW

pale flint
pearl lantern
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Still good for anyone

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Oh impact

summer jay
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just use as offset

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who needs the 2 piece

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when subs are better

pearl lantern
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Yea. Unless you really like that char and want to main her forever

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Usually godly 2 pieces are better and easier to get than 4 piece onset.

raw roost
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DPS qingyi gear

pearl lantern
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Anyway with genshin and hsr trends, they're bound to release maybe new BIS sets

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And you gotta farm all over again

sullen lodge
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Sadge still feels bad especially so early on when i have absolute garbage on my zhu

thorny flame
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What set would Jane want, the fanged metal or the proficiency one ? Thinkge

fleet valley
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people been saying she mid on launch

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i dont know about artifacts

mental sonnet
thorny flame
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Piper is good and she's premium piper, no way she's mid

fleet valley
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Surely....

pearl lantern
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But you gotta be committed to physical

pearl lantern
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oh, i didnt post before, i got this piece from the free woodpecker from trails. decided to upgrade it today

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my plan was to farm that attk% set though...cos second best with good subs still better that this set with shitty subs

last ledge
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this should be above average stat wise for zhu right?

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should be 79% crit rate with bonuses I think

nimble steppe
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minuscule amount of upgrading

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65-155

nimble steppe
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๐Ÿ˜Ž

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power of sig + m6 nicole

last ledge
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how much was m6 nicole again

nimble steppe
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around 10

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idk exact number but its over 10

last ledge
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so 10 + 8 from crit set bonus + 15 from sig right?

nimble steppe
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its like 15

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so i overcap a little

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but who cares

last ledge
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hmm so I need m6 nicole

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okay

nimble steppe
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overcaps by a lil bit

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but im fine with this

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i need better crit damage on zhu and better crit rate on ellen

last ledge
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okay

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well if my stats are similar to yours then I think I'm okay with it

nimble steppe
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wow i have 4 trash disks on zhu

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on ellen i only have 3

nimble steppe
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these are the bad ones i have on ellen

last ledge
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okay thats good then

raw roost
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Damn I really got worst Zhu asia/na TrollDespair

nimble steppe
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its all just luck

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ull get better disks sometime

glacial anchor
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my friend did clear it with lv50 units

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but he had zhu/ellen + lycaon

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and he had two lv50 brimstones

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3-5 seconds of leeway

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now he has 1:30~ minute of leeway with lv60

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yea the difference is huge with lv60 units in general

steady osprey
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yall need to lvl60 tbh

nimble steppe
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yea

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im not bothering anymore

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i dont have lvl 60, dont have whale investment and i dont have 2 stun units

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cba

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ill just wait for lvl 60, im fine with a ranks for now

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i will most lilkely lvl 60 before reset anyway

pearl lantern
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Yea don't bother. If you aren't in a hurry to clear. Just be consistent in building your characters

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I haven't even unlock the refreshing shiyu

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Stuck at 9

steady osprey
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im stuck at 9 too

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i can clear with b rank but i had to time every dodge

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cuz first mob is a bitch blinking everywhere

alpine hound
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By the weekend

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So I'll have to 2-3 days for upgrade ellen + anton weapon + engine

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Also the upgrade difference for exp and promotion materia is of 1 purple

terse pivot
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When do dailies reset in America?

thorny flame
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for central its 4am

nimble steppe
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so i might get it on qingyi release

alpine hound
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Nah you get to 50 by Tuesday or Wednesday

pale flint
barren glade
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this is what my shiyu looks like this rotation with only 2 lvl 50 units mainly the 2 dps that i use

alpine hound
steady osprey
worthy juniper
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yummers

pearl lantern
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He's gonna Lazer her ass

unreal sonnet
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no thats a valuable milk source

full geode
acoustic briar
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I hate it here

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welp

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anby has her weapon

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who uses jazz and and anomaly mastery

terse pivot
terse pivot
acoustic briar
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it's so cursed

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too far for reroll

fleet valley
terse pivot
acoustic briar
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Im giving up on zhu yuan

terse pivot
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Huuuuuj

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Why

acoustic briar
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I dont like her

terse pivot
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Should had reroll for shark

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I did reroll and uhm

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It took hours days

acoustic briar
#

nah

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unless youre a masochist

terse pivot
#

Listen

acoustic briar
#

Grace disk

terse pivot
#

took like 16 accounts maybe 17

acoustic briar
terse pivot
acoustic briar
terse pivot
terse pivot
acoustic briar
#

I didnt reroll

fleet valley
acoustic briar
#

I havent reroll on a game

fleet valley
terse pivot
#

Got fox guy, shark and zhu + weapon for fox + shark/zhu

acoustic briar
#

im getting qingyi

terse pivot
#

Oh 100%

acoustic briar
#

I just need 30 pulls and do the story

terse pivot
#

Pog

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You're 40

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So you should be at chapter 3

acoustic briar
#

I am

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I just hate the TV so much

terse pivot
#

Same

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Talking too much

acoustic briar
terse pivot
#

494 currency

acoustic briar
#

when can I do the lvl 40 promotion?

terse pivot
#

Think when you're lvl 40 on main char

acoustic briar
#

and then?

#

I slept too much im sorry

terse pivot
#

Have fun

raw roost
#

Can't be worse than me I got Rina M2 alteady

terse pivot
#

Skoomahhhhh

#

Why man

acoustic briar
#

I only have 3 S

raw roost
#

I'm not devoted enough to the belt and road cause

terse pivot
#

Btw

acoustic briar
terse pivot
#

Reina do you have free time now?

raw roost
#

I have 2 5* off banner weapons too Deadge but maybe it's a blessing in disguise

acoustic briar
#

yeah, next week is my class

terse pivot
#

Good now do your side quests

acoustic briar
#

no

fleet valley
#

I think the TV section is fine

raw roost
#

Complaints are exaggerated

steady osprey
#

tv is fine

acoustic briar
#

it is fine

#

I just hate it

fleet valley
#

๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿ‘ˆ

steady osprey
acoustic briar
#

IDM

#

artia

fleet valley
#

artia...?

raw roost
#

Artia

fleet valley
#

Oh wait

#

It's the emote

acoustic briar
#

wrong chat

fleet valley
acoustic briar
terse pivot
terse pivot
#

Coffee is like 3.5 euro here

#

You're a real homie

acoustic briar
fleet valley
#

This is a rather.... Private matter

terse pivot
#

Wdym

#

You're talking in a open channel

#

Ofc I want a coffee date with Kael

versed trellis
terse pivot
#

@fleet valley

alpine hound
terse pivot
#

Stop doing thayt

pearl lantern
glacial anchor
#

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mental sonnet
#

what the hell is a spat

pearl lantern
mental sonnet
#

ahh ok

fleet valley
nimble steppe
#

i can clear it with b as well

barren glade
#

well realistically if you have the stats and the units even at lvl 50 you could probably S it but most likely with a mono ice 1st round and zhu yuan with insane stats on the 2nd coz she can rekt that mech with enough time i believe it just comes down to the investment and units on the 1st half but other wise you might just have to wait for 60 to S it and worst it might not be enough to S it at 60 if you still lack the stats

pearl lantern
onyx anvil
#

how robot working out

pearl lantern
raw roost
#

We don't know yet if qingyi has any flesh part in her

pearl lantern
#

me charging her up

unreal sonnet
#

classique LULE

granite lark
granite lark
pearl lantern
granite lark
#

And its free

pearl lantern
fleet valley
#

good piece? FeelsDankMan

last ledge
#

nice anomaly proficiency LOSER

steady osprey
alpine hound
#

Tldr anby isnt power crept, anby is better stunner while qingyi is Better utility ( 60% extra dmg on stun)

alpine hound
#

Qingyi also better dmg but anby is much faster stunner

glacial anchor
#

There is a new version of the game on beta

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Other than the one content creators had

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They straight up x2 her daze numbers last minute

alpine hound
#

Wait holy those are massive buffs

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They really want her to be gud

#

๐Ÿ’€

glacial anchor
#

i thought it would be balanced because she weaker stun but massive stun dmg

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But now it's straight powercreep

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80% dmg stun now

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And her autos do x2 the daze before

fleet valley
alpine hound
#

Yeah the 30% on her 3rd is massive

#

Idk why they nerfed her dodge counter tho

fleet valley
#

so, just pair qingyi still in anby's team

alpine hound
#

No

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You can qingyi in any team as stunner

#

As long as until it had attackerd

glacial anchor
#

ye weird dodge counter nerf

#

punished for dodging

alpine hound
#

Punishing skill

#

Mhy games classic

pearl lantern
#

TOPXI just c6

glacial anchor
#

tbf this kind of nerf always end up being "i'll just hyper armor and hope i dont get interrupted"

#

remind me of calcharo gameplay in wuwa

#

ultra punished for dodging

#

rewarding for facetanking

alpine hound
#

286 is still alot of daze

loud orchid
#

it begins

alpine hound
#

It got nerfed

#

With 30% dmg reduction

loud orchid
#

the hoyo cycle

alpine hound
#

Tho this is a late game buff

#

Isnt 12 level the max?

#

Wait do mindscape gives +2 or +3 levels

glacial anchor
#

lv11 realistically but ye 12 is max with crown

#

(idk what crowning a skill called in this game)

#

4* units with m6 are lv15/16 skills

alpine hound
#

Im pretty sure max on m6 is 14

pearl lantern
glacial anchor
#

m3 is +2 to all skills
m5 is +2 to all skills

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if my math doesn't fail me, that's lv16

alpine hound
#

Yeah its 16

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So for f2p its spend the 2 crowns game has given you or be a whale and get m3

#

๐Ÿ’€

#

The buff itself is max investment buff

#

If anything base unit got nerfed

#

And max investment got buffed

#

๐Ÿ’€

steady osprey
glacial anchor
#

say goodbye to your dennies

steady osprey
steady osprey
#

finally not a engine

alpine hound
#

At what

barren glade
#

ben's the parry god

fleet valley
#

Ben bad

alpine hound
steady osprey
#

๐Ÿงฑ dead

glacial anchor
#

ben daze numbers are also pretty high

#

a lot of boss elites really favor ben parry assist into ex skill

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rare to find an elite that get immediately staggers after one parry assist in last stages of shiryu defense

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so instead of rotating between 2 units to keep parrying a boss doing 3 flash yellow attacks

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so parry once -> ben parry the second hit + follow up -> swap cancel ben

alpine hound
#

I mean you can also just dodge once out of swaps, dodge counter also has gud daze multiplier

glacial anchor
#

well doing his ex skill is %2300~mv and 1200% daze at lv15

#

considering it's fast animation

#

it deals a lot of dmg and daze, but more importantly is the massive daze dmg

steady osprey
barren glade
# alpine hound Which isnt useful in any timed event unless massive skill issue and you need ben...

ben being the parry god is just a meme it's not something you'd take seriously and compare it to the meta lol the reason why he's the parry god is mainly due to the fact that he's the only defense unit atm until seth and caesar comes coz he's got a unique feature where he could do timed parries with his skill without using the auto parry to swap during parry prompts and he can also parry atks that doesn't have parry prompts if you can time it right so idk about it being a massive skill issue for being able to do that coz it would be the opposite

alpine hound
#

From skill issue i meant your having the mtash moment then he can be useful ( or with kolaeda)

barren glade
lost rain
steady osprey
#

desu wa

stiff flax
steady osprey
alpine hound
#

So actually almost every multiplier of qingyi got nerfed

#

Chain attack and some other stuff

#

All they did is increase basic attack 3 and nerf everything else

#

Her stun speed is still worse then anby

#

And the 80% dmg increase on multiplier so devs are hard committing on decent dmg utility but slow stun

glacial anchor
#

Chain daze is irrelevant
Light and heavy nerf do discourage you from rotating between 2 units consuming Assist points, more into just onfielding Qingyi for daze

#

assist is yeah, straight nerf (although impact unit assist attack only occurs if you get hit with zhu so like that shouldn't happen to begin with)

pale flint
#

mihoyo frogs do love to eat their shits

acoustic briar
#

not the best but

#

after grinding

acoustic briar
#

I see

#

what a nice buff

sullen lodge
# glacial anchor ye weird dodge counter nerf

The reasoning is probably because third hit stun got kike doubled, and that's the one you can infinite AND imm use after dodge, so i guess having both op dodge counter nr that goes directly to the doubled third hit was a bit too overkill

acoustic briar
#

wait she's lightning stun right?

thorny flame
acoustic briar
#

Im ready for her

sullen lodge
#

Damn asia server POGGERS

#

Kinda wish i went asia server

acoustic briar
#

I can buy this just incase

#

I hope she will use swing jazz

steady osprey
#

299 pelucholares Pog

acoustic briar
#

BOOBA

pale flint
#

missing lightning set

acoustic briar
#

I grind that tomorrow

#

I used my coffee for anby

#

weapon is 75/25 right?

steady osprey
#

idk what to pic with selector

#

cat , solider 11 or grace

#

have everything else

acoustic briar
#

what selector?

#

you're at 300 pulls already?

steady osprey
#

almost

#

need 50 pulls to hit it

acoustic briar
#

wait huh

#

I mean I curently have thunder metal

loud orchid
#

whats the cheapest currency now that jpy/usd got so strong

#

give me the top up meta

fervent sandal
#

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thorny flame
#

old people TOOBASED

raw roost
#

Kung Fu hustle ahh MV OMEGALUL

pale flint
#

I see mihoyo character trailer feel become cringe the more they keep making it

#

wuwave is character trailer is mid

pearl lantern
tawdry ocean
#

hag coded

torn elk
#

draw a child
she's 80 guys

sullen lodge
#

she's actually a thousand year old dragon guys

#

๐Ÿค“

#

wait no, thousand and eight year old, wink wink

torn elk
#

๐Ÿค“

#

trueee

steady osprey
pearl lantern
#

Clank clank

#

They can only do so much for the vod. In a town area theme

#

But it's more relatable, no fantasy setting

raw roost
#

i love it tbh

acoustic briar
mental sonnet
#

how do i get more pulls what are the best methods

#

im like level 22 in the story chapter 2

#

if i dont get zhu before end of banner i will be spending money until i get her

#

i didnt do any hollow zero yet only the first mission, is it worth for pulls specifically

versed trellis
#

just swipe

mental sonnet
#

im so close....

#

like 30-40 pulls away maybe

#

maximum

versed trellis
#

i didnt play this week

mental sonnet
#

this game is better than porn

pearl lantern
dusky rampart
dusky rampart
mental sonnet
#

ah

#

so basically if i dont get enough through story then just spend real money

dusky rampart
#

okay

pearl lantern
#

either you be a skip guy, lucksacc guy or swipe guy

mental sonnet
#

well i am not skipping zhu i already regret missing ellen

last ledge
#

like 20 per

#

and there are weeklies that give currency as well

mental sonnet
#

ah

last ledge
#

how much until you can pity pull zhu?

pearl lantern
#

unless 1.1 is a pure skip for you

mental sonnet
#

should be 40 maximum

loud orchid
#

zhu yuan is really unfriendly to f2p

#

you gambled on a gamble that ellen would be the worse f2p character and lost, don't double down

mental sonnet
#

i didnt gamble on anything

#

i showed up after she left

loud orchid
#

oh, well then it just is fomo

mental sonnet
#

i dont care about meta

#

i just care if the character is hot

loud orchid
#

you will when you're dying

#

unless youre the type to pull & quit

mental sonnet
#

i played genshin impact with the shittiest builds ever and i didnt care

#

i still played the game

#

did terrible in spiral abyss

#

and was still addicted to the game

loud orchid
#

unless youre somehow different from everone else with this mentality (youre not)

mental sonnet
#

and enjoyed it

loud orchid
#

this game won't be genshin

last ledge
#

since you're only lvl 24 or whatever

mental sonnet
#

yeah its better than genshin

loud orchid
#

if you aren't aware this is a clone of their previous game honkai impact 3rd

mental sonnet
#

ok

loud orchid
#

which over the years got to a point where you literally could not play unless you pulled meta unit

#

genshin is the weird child in the family of hoyo games

#

most of their games are very tied to meta

mental sonnet
#

well if they want to kick me out of the game in the future then so be it

loud orchid
#

hsr is getting there too

mental sonnet
#

nothing last forever

loud orchid
#

fair

#

then do what you like

mental sonnet
#

i just wanna enjoy it now

last ledge
loud orchid
#

they did in hi3 for a long time

last ledge
#

thats pretty funny

loud orchid
#

then eventually they patched so your trial units were usable

mental sonnet
#

they will probably just make the trial units usable in the zzz story

#

but idk

loud orchid
#

probably

#

they are like halfway there with this game already

mental sonnet
#

but yeah idc about dealing the most damage or anything

loud orchid
#

but sometimes you only get one trial unit

mental sonnet
#

i just want hot anime women

loud orchid
#

meta in a hoyo game is about being able to play at all, nobody really competes for most damage

#

the only time anyone competes is when theres a leaderboard

#

well.. seriously competes

#

theres little competitions in everything

mental sonnet
#

i am gonna pull for ellen too when she returns

#

ellen is my favorite

#

zhu is like third favorite

loud orchid
#

nobody is really seriously competing about most damage, they are asking questions like "can they clear in 3 cycles or less" or "how many patches will this char be relevant"

#

there are communities that compete in that way sure but its like a microcosm

alpine hound
#

Well the whole reason you build the correct sets with correct main stats is because you want dmg

loud orchid
#

if that qualifies as competing to you then sure

#

it doesn't to me

alpine hound
#

Would you build disk 5 def% because thats the first one you get

loud orchid
#

that's not competing

#

but no I wouldn't

alpine hound
#

So your take is bad even if none of us are competing but we are trying to do most dmg

loud orchid
#

my take was about competing...

#

I don't disagree with what you just said

alpine hound
#

How do you even compete in hoyo game

loud orchid
#

I literally said you don't

#

is this like low quality tomfoolery or something

alpine hound
#

So you should say you cant not dont your wording confused me

loud orchid
#

my bad

#

anyways

pearl lantern
#

people compete and compare with anything.

alpine hound
#

Im getting extremely gud cr csmg swing jazz

#

But idk if i can use swing jazz on dps

pearl lantern
#

genshin speed runs, hsr 0 cycles on youtube. theres chinese genshin cups for speed runs shit. maybe for hsr too. theres EN site to flex your gears.

#

of cos the vast majority dont care

alpine hound
#

I mean i dont get the point of flexing gear its rng

#

If you wanna flex do it about doing withering zone at 11/11

pearl lantern
alpine hound
#

I could probably do it but my weekly is completed might as well wait till weekly reset

alpine hound
#

And all my rolls can go into flat attack

pearl lantern
#

yea, and then you try again

alpine hound
#

Welp at this stage no

pearl lantern
#

eventually you'll get a good set

alpine hound
#

Later on yes

pearl lantern
alpine hound
#

I mean you can have hd def cr cdmg with all rolls on cr and cdmg so it really is just rng

#

And at this point we domt even have enough exp bottles

#

I have almost barely enough to max current acceptable gear

pearl lantern
#

no hurry for shiyu thou.

#

im stil grinding matts, so i can mainly focus on gear afterwards.

alpine hound
#

Going from no gear to somewhat acceptable + 15 gear is a massive upgrade

#

So better to have acceptable gear and then grind for 60 and max skills

pearl lantern
#

this new event forced me to get some gear

alpine hound
#

Like im only left with rina

#

Who im done with

#

Just farming gear now cuz of 2x

fleet valley
#

What event

pearl lantern
#

oh no..