Zenless Zone Zero

[terse pivot]

You horny dogs

[fleet valley]

Was about to say, noone is into nekomata because Zhu and ellen

[vague wolf]

WOOF woof

[fleet valley]

???

[terse pivot]

I mean Candice

ZZZ is like Arknights

but you can move as you like

[versed trellis]

play more

stop slacking

[nimble steppe]

not really replacing

game doesnt have an s rank limited electro stun

same reason as for why we're getting an s rank anomaly electro soon

the only one is a standard

game doesn't have a limited

¯_(ツ)_/¯

and anby's sig is still pretty good

you can offset the energy the pot gives by dodging with her

and using 2p swing jazz

[thorny flame]

eh, I think its better prio if it was combinations that don't exist yet
grace/anby aren't so bad that they need a limited premium version so quickly

[nimble steppe]

tho pot is better ig

can you craft pot?

or is it pulls only

[nimble steppe]

i disagree on anby

filling slots with s ranks is good

[alpine hound]

I'm talking about a role that wasnt occupied

[nimble steppe]

on grace, if you want an electro anomaly for your team, you can't really guarantee it

a limited can do that though

[alpine hound]

Pot is way better on anby as its the 2nd best stun w engine.

[nimble steppe]

anby is more damage focused regardless

and qingyi is specifically designed for burst characters

so it's not like they;re similar even then

most of her minds just buff her damage

[alpine hound]

I dont get your logic your trying to say i should focus dmg over stun on a character thats role is literally called stunner

And if you use your combo she does 30% bar without gear

So if well built she can probably stun with 2 4hits combod

[nimble steppe]

anby as a character is more damage focused

her minds literally give more damage lol

[alpine hound]

Which is necessary as her dmg is absolute crap thats why I'll rather have anby dupes over ben

[nimble steppe]

also you're still building damage on stunners

[alpine hound]

Because she will still have to do 2 comos

Any more dmg during them is a +

[nimble steppe]

the only disk you're not going to orient towards damage is the 6 one

other than that anby should most likely play standard electro 4 and 5 and qingyi probably plays anomaly disks

[alpine hound]

I mean as of now all stun = same carry build - the 6th slot

[nimble steppe]

yea thats what im saying

so what are we arguing about

[alpine hound]

Same for lyacon and kolaeda

[nimble steppe]

lol

[alpine hound]

Idk

But yeah dont recommend anby sig thats actually tras

Pot is very impactful

Impact is a scarce resource and pot is very gud for it

[nimble steppe]

heres what i meant

compared to someone like lycaon

unless im forgetting one of her minds

she doesn't have something like this

her minds just give more damage

[alpine hound]

She has no stun increase in any mind

[nimble steppe]

which im not trying to shit on at all

but she's clearly a more damage focused stunner

[alpine hound]

Her dmg is omega trash

[nimble steppe]

kinda is

but what can u do

starter unit

¯_(ツ)_/¯

still solid if u have no better stunner

[alpine hound]

So this isnt bad as it makes her dmg no existent to some dmg

[nimble steppe]

yea

my point is qingyi will be fairly different judging from her kit

[alpine hound]

My sukaku for 3 charge chain skill does kore dmg then whole anby rotation

Its that bad

[nimble steppe]

sokaku is also a bit stronger than other a ranks lol

and she got nerfed 2 times in betas

[alpine hound]

Well my original take was we should have gotten ether and physical tank (specially physical as it has both anomaly and attackers in it) over having another same role unit with Better daze and dmg

But yeah whatever

I'll still pull for max dupe anby

I hope we get 10 pull for the china nomination thingy

[nimble steppe]

coming

phis tank is 100% locked in

if i had to guess its in 1.2

its her

first s rank defense character as well

[alpine hound]

From tank i meant stunner*

But yeah do we get free pulls china award thingy?

I need free shit

[nimble steppe]

hoyo giving shit

tho i think they did give 10 pulls for being nominated at tga

so who fkin knows

either way i want lighter allready

i dont even care what s rank banner he will be on

he's getting m6r5ed

and as a bonus i will be getting an m0r1 s rank i guess

[torn elk]

man i should really read my skills

[worldly jungle]

[torn elk]

i've been self-griefing when i use anby

and also i'm getting gaped by that stupid flower boss

[granite lark]

Anby on her own W engine works fine as a stunner

End game anby isn’t drastically changing her daze on elites and bosses with pot over her sig

So it really doesn’t matter

You will still be doing the same 2/3 rotations per elite/boss

[fleet valley]

try the tutorial

it teach how to use her

[torn elk]

its fine

i read the ability

i've been rawdogging her special

when i should use it after after her 3rd normal

my qol 📈

also for uh

nicole's passive

is it just any normal attack where she shits out bullets where it applies the def reduction?

[raw roost]

I think it's nornal attack after her skill and ult or something

Just fits her intended playstyle

[torn elk]

[raw roost]

Anyways don't think you need to care about it, black hole out = def shred

[pearl lantern]

https://vxtwitter.com/pinknishii/status/1818291979114992100?s=46

[fleet valley]

Peak gf

[unreal sonnet]

bro i had no idea how hot a girl with some arms on her and a nice back is until i saw them in ultra high-def (real life)

[fleet valley]

Nice

Did you at least talk to her?

[unreal sonnet]

i dont talk to girls

https://tenor.com/view/raj-missy-crying-puppy-cry-big-bang-gif-16487849

[fleet valley]

Smh

You miss every shot you didn't take

You two probably be talking rn if you talked to her

[unreal sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/fail-basketball-shot-gif-8764564

[raw roost]

Yeah who knows she might have played epic seven

[unreal sonnet]

i don't want a girl that plays epic seven

thats a dealbreaker

[tidal shoal]

https://youtu.be/MwfgQCxRLCA

[unreal sonnet]

bro where do stats come from

my ellen is 26.6% crit 90% cdam and i'm wearing cdam disc, crit% 2-piece, and all my discs have crit substat but the substats are such small stats

[raw roost]

I think we should wait until acct LV 45+ before trying to get stats

That's how it was in genshin too

[unreal sonnet]

yes i suppose so

[fleet valley]

Too narrow, you gotta "pretend" like you care, then ejaculate and evacuate

[pearl lantern]

I only did 2-3 runs of artifucks

And it's was a waste

At least I got a full set of +0

[fleet valley]

Yea, it's a waste

I'll focus on lvling skills first for 6 units

I'll pour in some energy on disc I guess

[alpine hound]

Anby is pretty simple after 3rd basic attack you charge hit or press skill(doesnt matter if ex or not) and then do the 4th hit

You charge hit when you wanna save ex skill else you alway go 3 basic hits, skill into 4th basic attack

This order gives 30% increased daze on4th attack

If you slightly gud you can remain uninterrupted by using ex special during enemy skill as it has iframed

[unreal sonnet]

dud ive been using koleda a lot because im trying to push shiyu defense and she's actually pissing me off with her special attacks even though you are invincible they are really long and it disrupts dodge timing and stuff

[torn elk]

yes i figured it out

[vague wolf]

Did u figure out how to e6 in this game?

[last ledge]

yeah we use your credit card

[coral bronze]

did any of you max out Billy's trust?

bitch has the most dedicated final quest out of all characters

what the fuck

[summer jay]

i maxed it

his support item if u send him away in hollow zero is a 15% dmg boost iirc

[coral bronze]

he's the last one I maxed

soldier 11 waiting room now

[fleet valley]

Anyone know

Where it reset on shiyu?

[raw roost]

Next reset I think?

[nimble steppe]

yea thats what im thinking as well

so imma keep her sig

i cba wasting resources to craft r5 pot

so i will just get her sig r5 from qingyi banner and roll with that

[nimble steppe]

should be today?

i think

[fleet valley]

I mean where, not when

[alpine hound]

welp i cooked

i kinda knew last one was gonna be an ice ether resistance one

also fking dodgey mofo with 2 unstunnable units on round 1

dodgy mofo the only thing making this game actually challenging single handedly

[unreal sonnet]

i need game to give me energy so i can level 40 and get all my units leveled and skill-up and stuff and therefore get some progress in that mode before reset 🥺

[alpine hound]

welp im day 1 f2p so if you cant reach my progress then its skill issue (or lack of grind )

[unreal sonnet]

im only like day 6

as in started last week

[alpine hound]

yeah you cant reach it then

too late

just try to get b as many as possible

[granite lark]

Nuke the left one and ignore the right one until the boss eventually dodges near it. Get the stun and melt them both easy work

[alpine hound]

i mean its doable but if my sukaku was built this could have been very easy

the dodgy mofo was 2 shotting my

sukaku and i needed her to tank atleast 2 hits to make more agressive buff activation

i had to play very carefully with sukaku thus more time wasted

[granite lark]

I actually like when my soukaku dies so my Ellen can melt with normals more after stun

[alpine hound]

[granite lark]

Its how I got my fastest floor 1 clear

[alpine hound]

not really i consider sukaku chain attack extremely useful against more then 1 mob

and her constant buff activation before stun

helps alot

[granite lark]

You aren't fighting more than one mob for majority of floor one

After you kill the spawns its just the boss

[alpine hound]

well depending on how quickly you get rid of other enemies it effects your dmg alot

the whole theme was kill other mobs so you could get rid of -25% dmg reduction debuff on elite

[granite lark]

Thats why you nuke the left one at the start and ignore the other one

[alpine hound]

isnt that still giving him 25% dmg reduction?

as long as until right pillar is alive

the red one

the left one gives barriers so i killed him first in like 10 seconds

[loud orchid]

i swear zhu yuan as a character is just making fun of incels

there's a hand-holding trust event for her

[alpine hound]

isnt this what incel wants imagineif the furry dude was in her trusts

[granite lark]

Idk if it is or isn't but it didn't affect my clear because I focused the boss and stunned him near the right Mandrake so it died during chains

[alpine hound]

[alpine hound]

so you did kill him quickly as well then

[raw roost]

dont forget that 1 girl simping over her in front of the police station too

[loud orchid]

yes but because of this she's completely alien and unrelatable, she becomes a caricature

[granite lark]

After that I let Soukaku get shot by delaying my qassist, proc'd stun with the assist attack, chain bangboo into lycaon, swap ellen and melt

[alpine hound]

isnt the clueless one the incels prefer

[granite lark]

It died from 50%

[alpine hound]

[granite lark]

Because ellen normals are stupid

[alpine hound]

oh i see your getting her killed for more lyacon uptime in chain attacks

i dont have lyacon my ice team is ellen and skukau

but my ellen m1

[loud orchid]

yes, that's what makes her a caricature

[alpine hound]

so her uptime is 98%

and because of that dodgy mofo spends less time stunned

and more time dashing around the map

[granite lark]

More ellen uptime because you just need Lycaon for the daze and freeze post chain attack. If you get the freeze it pauses the stun timer and lets Ellen ult without it ever moving so the entire stun is dedicated to Ellen's normals

She just kills it

Once you proc shatter the timer resumes

If you can get the freeze without going into the bangboo you get even more stun time

[alpine hound]

hmm that seems more possible with lyacon cuz in my current freeze is extremely random so i just try to do my 3 hit combo if possible

but boss never gets freezed during stun for me

[fleet valley]

Wait

How'd you even do shiyu

It's so hard

[granite lark]

Its just optimizing your rotations

[fleet valley]

I barely finish 9 at 14s left

[granite lark]

Takes some practice

Once you get your rotations down its just a matter of time

[fleet valley]

Show the blue one 🙂

[fleet valley]

It's lvl 50 though

[granite lark]

Did this before I hit 40

[fleet valley]

How'd you even split 2.5m on each team

[granite lark]

Ellen LMAO

[fleet valley]

That second team is literally my team

Except the bangboo since I have the shark

[granite lark]

I'm telling you the Soukaku sacrifice strat is underrated

[fleet valley]

?

[granite lark]

Shark is better here anyways

[fleet valley]

Kill Soukaku first?

[alpine hound]

tbh no need to mald this was with not maxed units by next rotation ill have 2 teams completely geared and maxed

the stat difference will become much lower

[fleet valley]

Raaah, I need all the primogems

[alpine hound]

we have awhole month

[fleet valley]

I'll be lvl 40 by tmr

[loud orchid]

how aggressively flirtatious the mc is with corin 😳

[fleet valley]

Next month is tmr

[alpine hound]

ill porbably be 50 in the next week

[granite lark]

Right before you stun the boss (About 92 daze), do Soukaku's EX skill to give ellen the buff, but switch into Ellen right as the enemy attacks you. Soukaku will die but Ellen's qassist will proc stun.

Freeze with Lycaon during his chain attack, then switch to Ellen and ult on the freeze

[fleet valley]

Wait, you aren't kidding about killing soukaku

[granite lark]

After that just kill it

No I'm not kidding

[alpine hound]

yeah so your controlling freeze variable with lyacon i cant replicate that

[fleet valley]

Huh

I don't understand shet

Is the boss so strong it one shot Soukaku?

[granite lark]

This is unfortunate yes. The only way you would be able to do this strat is if you already have Ellen Soukaku as your last 2 characters on field

[fleet valley]

And you must sacrifice her?

[granite lark]

So Ellen chains with herself and the bangboo

[fleet valley]

Ah

[granite lark]

But thats highly unlikely

[fleet valley]

So, sacrificing all

[granite lark]

Yeah these mobs hit hard at lvl 40

[fleet valley]

Can you uhh, show how

Or give a YouTube link

[granite lark]

Not anymore lol I'm over-stated now

They dont do enough damage to 2 tap me now unfortunately

[fleet valley]

There's must be a guide somewhere

[granite lark]

Possibly

I found this out on my own so idk if theres anyone talking about it or not

[alpine hound]

he is basically killing sukaku to guarantee have bangoo skill procces on the 2nd chain attack

instead of 3rd

[granite lark]

Correct

Killing Soukaku during fly the flag lets you skip the death animation and go straight into stun from the assist

[unreal sonnet]

sacrificial lamb unit 😭

[nimble steppe]

lol

200 polies in mail

[alpine hound]

for what?

[granite lark]

Bug fixes

[fleet valley]

Yea

And also, I searched somewhere for code, got like 180 polies

[nimble steppe]

give

:

[fleet valley]

Just search man

[raw roost]

best I can do gonna try next rotation after artifact mines are open and qingyi is live

[fleet valley]

You can do it

Moreee

[coral bronze]

still a gamer

[alpine hound]

At least reach b on all stages even a f2p can do that

[coral bronze]

I'm not so sure

[raw roost]

no ellen / lycaon, i wont even bother trying

[alpine hound]

Yeah not possible without Ellen

[coral bronze]

these are fucking painful if you don't have the right team

[alpine hound]

[alpine hound]

Well my ass only got b on last stage

[raw roost]

i think ellen is probably better than zhu yuan looking back but without lycaon she's probably just ok anyways

[alpine hound]

I use only ellen and sukaku

[coral bronze]

something might have gone wrong with a mod or two

[alpine hound]

2 man team

[coral bronze]

yeah, they're too good

for now

[alpine hound]

Honestly even the bullet phase of hollow zero boss feels impossible without ellen sprint

Ellen too gud

[raw roost]

i'll go to the artifact mines before i try the rest

[alpine hound]

[raw roost]

GachaDemon

[alpine hound]

Skipping ellen so far is griefing your account

[fleet valley]

Got none of her sig

[unreal sonnet]

i really want them to give a banner unit that will pair well with koleda because i'd like another team as strong as ellen team

im not really sure about the way they have synergy with all same element or all same faction, like doesn't that always make support units kinda weird to pull if you dont already have the right faction/element for your attacker

whereas you can just pull any attacker and use 4-star supports

[raw roost]

zhu yuan can use any support, altho nicole is her best for now

i'm guessing every new character will need either right element / specific role

[sullen lodge]

i actually think zhu might be better than ellen but ellen has the benefit of a true top tier support and an actual S rank stunner

and zhu for now is stuck with fucking anby

so maybe with qingyi's release, if not then then it's irrelevant as neither of these 2 dps will probably be all that relevant months down the line

[unreal sonnet]

this game needs furina fr fr, broken support for any team

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-impact-furina-dancing-glowstick-cheering-gif-108425810148791440

[sullen lodge]

irrelevant in the sense that it doesn't matter if zhu ends up being better down the line than ellen with better supports as both are probably outdated by then alrdy

[unreal sonnet]

the (gacha)gambler's dilemma

[raw roost]

yeah its just ellen is better for now, after more characters are released they will normalize

that being said the initial element composition is really weird

[sullen lodge]

for me it's all up to qingyi, as since i said before, even if zhu turns out to be better multiple patches down the line because of better supports, it doesn't matter then as you'll alrdy be using a different dps at that point

but qingyi obviously pairs well with zhu and is gonna be available in the short term

[raw roost]

early qingyi pls

[steady osprey]

[pearl lantern]

i havnt even unlock the refreshing shiyu

[coral bronze]

too lazy to keep going

https://tenor.com/view/poe-path-of-exile-login-play-poe-login-gif-26508840

going back to poe

[sullen lodge]

yeah i need to do mine too still

kinda don't want to bother

i think i did up to 5

[torn elk]

I did 1 and i m good

[sullen lodge]

probably not missing out on many gems either way as i won't be able to S rank them

[torn elk]

[pearl lantern]

fellow casuals

[sullen lodge]

[tropic river]

:]

[pearl lantern]

Summeru goats

[tropic river]

strongest aranara

[worldly jungle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1263015892091015189/1266419639949459476/RDT_20240726_0937163842129003875809120.gif

[glacial anchor]

https://www.phixiv.net/en/artworks/121064390

[nimble steppe]

have u guys seen her full name

fischl lookin ass name

[sullen lodge]

i don't even know who that was supposed to be

up until your msg i thought it was the genshin female mc lol

[barren glade]

this is how far i could push shiyu i'm currently lvl 43

hopefully i could push higher after reset when i hit lvl 45+

[unreal sonnet]

i can't wait for it to be a new month and i can buy all the freebie summons from the shop

[nimble steppe]

7 standard pulls and 5 limited

[raw roost]

[coral bronze]

[last ledge]

should have been me

[loud orchid]

[pale flint]

my fire girl didn't gear

[summer jay]

trust events

dont wanna do them if theyre maxed but they can give mats

[worldly jungle]

hop on star rail and genshin

[pearl lantern]

invading our safe space for furries and L word enjoyers?

Wait, there furries in luofu and genshin too

[worldly jungle]

well not as crazy as zzz

[steady osprey]

did shop reset?

for NA

i want my free pullerinos

[worldly jungle]

yes

oh for na not yet

i guess

[steady osprey]

[worldly jungle]

i got jack shit from it

wait is zzz same reset as star rail and genshin it is right

[pearl lantern]

Yes

Same formula

5 each

I got all 3* L engines

[coral bronze]

ok, this one is not bad

[fervent sandal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUGKg-5Hpdc

[unreal sonnet]

damn thats some next level parasocial for our jpg waifus

we're just enjoying her doing morning tasks

especially the pissin

[fleet valley]

[little elk]

[nimble steppe]

dude this sd sucks so much

ellen team is actually unplayable

cba trying anymore

[last ledge]

just roll for new character

[last ledge]

got another nicole nice

slowly getting there

just one more to go

[glacial anchor]

[granite lark]

?

[pearl lantern]

How did you get so many?

[granite lark]

They’ve been spending poly on it

[pearl lantern]

That's not the f2pbtway way

[alpine hound]

Recommending game with 30+ hours of unskippable story

[pearl lantern]

Big L for new players

Unlimited content and rolls

[glacial anchor]

https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/121069213

[granite lark]

To refresh your stam for farming

Yes you can

[sullen lodge]

Saving for limited banners

Generallt it's not advised at all to spent polys on standard banner

The game gives a ton at launch cuz of launch rewards and all the one time rewards from story and achievements etc

But that runs out real fast

[coral bronze]

holy shit

little early for this achievment

[onyx anvil]

desu wa

[fleet valley]

@granite lark I'm trying to get it

So, do I finish all the shiyu content with just 2 really built team

Ellen Soukaku and Lucy any?

[little elk]

lucy

😛

[fleet valley]

[granite lark]

Pretty much

[raw roost]

strim tomorrow

and hopefully 1.2 drip soon

[versed trellis]

i still didnt got her yet

[fleet valley]

Only 2 units?

Don't put Lycaon in?

[nimble steppe]

dead game

[versed trellis]

[raw roost]

damn my GOAT game still alive

[versed trellis]

u collecting them still ?

[raw roost]

nah i quit season 2 when fjorm was the main girl

[versed trellis]

new eirika version is busted

[raw roost]

i still look at their arts though they have a lot of talented artists working on that game

[pale flint]

I would rather let people play HSR and ZZZ but HSR and genshit for new players

are worst nightmare

[raw roost]

im thinking to ask you why but you'll have to cite a whole dictionary on her skill desc

[pale flint]

[loud orchid]

is this an anby weapon?

[pale flint]

do you swipe on this game more than buying the power pass + the subscription $4.99

[loud orchid]

no

[pale flint]

ok

same with HSR?

[loud orchid]

no i swipe there

[pale flint]

wait

so u swipe a lot

on hsr

how much did u spend total

[loud orchid]

i don't know

counting is for poor people

[pale flint]

swipe for new character and artifact

meta

[raw roost]

i should get soft pity for regular banner today, Prayge

pls give me an actual new unit and not rina c3

[unreal sonnet]

i want soldier 11 when i get there

good luck on pity

[alpine hound]

Anby needs impact and energy the most so anything which gives you both of these works

[loud orchid]

well that's nice at least

i don't think its good for any other character

[alpine hound]

Not really its best weapon for kolaeda

[loud orchid]

oh, I don't have koleda

[alpine hound]

And also functions well on lyacon

[loud orchid]

or lycaon

if I get koleda I will give it to her though

[alpine hound]

Because it has no downside and 100% uptime

[nimble steppe]

its allright on anby

you can't take advantage of the passive fully but its still pretty good

[alpine hound]

? You literally use ex special during combo what do mean cant take advantage

[nimble steppe]

you can't get full stacks on anby

unless you deliberately save enough energy for 2 es in a row

which doesn't happen often in my experience

[alpine hound]

Yeah not on weaker builds

Well thats why pot is 2nd best for impact on anby

And this being 3rd

[nimble steppe]

yea

well

pot is 2nd best at r5

again if u dont want to waste mats

this is probably better

simply bcs higher stats

[alpine hound]

Why dont you have it at r5

[unreal sonnet]

is this game super min-max cause i never try hard or look anything up in genshin and everything in that game is routine

[alpine hound]

[nimble steppe]

i aint using mats on crafting weapons this early into the game

[alpine hound]

I already got it to r5 in first month

[loud orchid]

shiyu in this game is much harder than abyss in genshin imo

for now at least

[alpine hound]

Its literally 10 blue i just do 1 run on stun certification when farming disks

[nimble steppe]

for now cause we're underleveled

[alpine hound]

Got like 20 of them

[nimble steppe]

idk how its gonna be when everyone is 60 with perfect sets

[alpine hound]

With coffe buff

[loud orchid]

with perfect sets you've beaten the game pretty much

[nimble steppe]

i'd rather use that energy on other characters or artifact sets

[loud orchid]

so easy then

[pearl lantern]

until they release the next powercept set

[alpine hound]

Pretty much my half complete team could almost get 4 s and 2b on previous shiyuu

[alpine hound]

What's with this obsession of getting powercrept

[unreal sonnet]

gacha trauma

https://tenor.com/view/anime-rpg-game-yufine-epic-seven-gif-10016362636730813198

[granite lark]

No use lycaon

[alpine hound]

E7 peak art

[pale flint]

they would

no reasone for them shouldn't

becuase

powercrept character = stonk

for mihoyo

and people willing to their shit either way

only suck for new players tho if they're making content which force u to have some powercept characters like Honkai star rail. Which will force u to pull for that certain unit easy profit ent would eat it up swipe 30k

at least the game let u skip stories

[fleet valley]

huh

[granite lark]

You need a stunner

And his 35% stun multiplier bonus

[sullen lodge]

qingyi had an even higher one right, i remember reading like 60% or something

or up to

well datamining so that could've all been changed alrdy

[pale flint]

btw for stunner the maid physic stunner is good right? for physic comp

[sullen lodge]

there is no maid stunner

[pale flint]

the sobber girl

drikke

[sullen lodge]

that's an attacker

[pale flint]

who is stunner for physic

or I just gonna put lycan

[sullen lodge]

we don't have a physical stunner yet

just put lycaon in there yeah

[alpine hound]

Well hsr is turn based, in zzz their are more factors that effect your performance

So if you simply don't have skill issue you can probably clear everything until they powercreep to an ridiculous amount where inputs have less value then brain dead dmg

But by then you should just leave the game

[granite lark]

Physical doesnt need a stunner because assault exist

[nimble steppe]

i mean they do regardless

[granite lark]

They dont

[nimble steppe]

but the role also has to fit for the character

they'll do one when it fits

[granite lark]

Assault literally has built in daze

[nimble steppe]

irrelevant my dude

they will still release a phis stunner

[granite lark]

Its really not

[nimble steppe]

thats like saying corruption does more instances of ether damage so theres no need for an ether atk

they will fill all roles and types at some point

[granite lark]

It is quite literally in the design of assault to inflict massive daze on activation

Hence why again, it doesn’t exist

[nimble steppe]

ok cool, phis characters still cannot match actual stunners

so ultimately it's irrelevant

[granite lark]

They dont need to

Because Assault exist LMFAO

[nimble steppe]

it doesn't exist for the same reason ether anomaly doesn't

or ether fire doesn't

simply because they haven't done it yet

idk why you're chosing to die on this weird ass hill

stun is also more than just daze

stunners also provide bonus daze damage and in lycaon's case ice res shred

[granite lark]

Because I was in 2 betas and literally ask about this across multiple people

This was explained to us

[nimble steppe]

i belive you i think

[granite lark]

Its why billy had his anomaly stats changed.

[nimble steppe]

ok whats the reasoning for no fire anomaly, ether anomaly, phis support and all the other missing roles

do they also not need those?

:^)

[granite lark]

Because those are already planned within the factions shown off

[nimble steppe]

these roles also didn't exist until cbt 2

[nimble steppe]

whos the ether anomaly

im listening

and the phis support

thats what i thought

[granite lark]

Its been 5 seconds let me get the information

[last ledge]

yeah watch your language

[granite lark]

Chill

[last ledge]

[unreal sonnet]

they'll always find a way to create a character for every role

as they add new mechanics and such

[nimble steppe]

yea its pretty obvious

[granite lark]

They specifically specified that physical doesn’t have a stunner due to the Daze built into Assault. Physical was broken in CBT2 for that reason and had massive balance changes in CBT3

[nimble steppe]

i dont understand who is he fooling

[granite lark]

It was told to us

[nimble steppe]

it's legit genshin/hsr model of releasing characters

[unreal sonnet]

that's fine if it's true for now

you're both right

[nimble steppe]

great so phisical now can easily use a stunner because its no longer broken

allright thanks for clearing it up

[granite lark]

Assault was broken because of the damage it did which is what was balanced, daze levels are still the same buddy

[nimble steppe]

ok why isnt everyone playing assault instead of any stunner then

[unreal sonnet]

me playing corin koleda because i don't have any other units 🥹

[nimble steppe]

add ben and u have a pretty good team

[unreal sonnet]

i did

speaking of which

[nimble steppe]

corin will be on jane's banner

roll for her and her sig

if u want m6r5 corin

[unreal sonnet]

wtf happens when you overcap on their dupes

[nimble steppe]

her minds are pretty sweet actually

[unreal sonnet]

because my ben was already c6 and i got another one

[nimble steppe]

you get more tokens for the pull shop

[granite lark]

Everyone IS playing Assault in physical comps what are you talking about LMFAO

[unreal sonnet]

and i have no idea if i got anything

[nimble steppe]

idk the exact numbers but im expecting its like genshin

[granite lark]

Lucy Piper + 1

[nimble steppe]

no shit everyone is playing assault in phis comps

nobody is replacing stunners with assault triggers though

[granite lark]

They are

[nimble steppe]

[granite lark]

Its literally the strat in the previous shiyu defense

[nimble steppe]

lucy piper not even that impressive anymore

minimal investment zhu and ellen mog disorder pretty heavily

yes

[granite lark]

It doesnt need to be impressive, its effective

[nimble steppe]

it was the strat before because people only had 1 limited team

and little to no investment

[granite lark]

Again

Effective

[nimble steppe]

everyone plays ellen and zhu now

ok

and a phis stunner would be x30 more effective than that

and as such they'll release one at some point

simple lol

[granite lark]

And to your earlier question.

Fire Anomaly

Ether Anomaly

[nimble steppe]

💀

except

yanagi is electro anomaly

her element is leaked allready

straight from the game files, and she does electro attacks in game

[granite lark]

Yanagi is a coinflip on ether or electric because it hasn’t been confirmed on her element. It is literally still being discussed

[unreal sonnet]

hey what faction is the rat

[glacial anchor]

Policia

[onyx anvil]

the police

just a diff department

[nimble steppe]

everyone has seen the thread man

[unreal sonnet]

big daddy?

[nimble steppe]

leakers have allready said she's electro

big daddy is the pig

[granite lark]

Ok bud

You got it

[onyx anvil]

do guys have pics of what these guys look like

[granite lark]

I dont unfortunately

I believe theres concept art

[nimble steppe]

@granite lark https://fixvx.com/gachagamezzz/status/1816780822860484969

im listening

[granite lark]

I already said you got it

[nimble steppe]

yes

hold on

@unreal sonnet @onyx anvil

this should be him

hugo vlad is most likely || the vampire in lycaon's story ||

[sullen lodge]

i think 2,3 and 4 are that idol faction that we've seen official art of

[nimble steppe]

rokudou yutane and chinatsu are the 3 angel girl idols

[sullen lodge]

i can't stand that faction though

[nimble steppe]

trigger is the mystery character that helps you in soldier 11's story

lucia is a nun that has an old model which was likely censored by now

[onyx anvil]

i swear zzz had a picture of evreyone

[unreal sonnet]

who is the girl with the dual flamethrower jetpack

[nimble steppe]

and nocha is completely new, no concept or anything in betas

[nimble steppe]

burnice

[unreal sonnet]

ah yea i want some of that

[sullen lodge]

she's a 4*

[granite lark]

Good

Hopefully shes as strong as what I think Seth might be

Cant tell until I see his multipliers

[nimble steppe]

uh

burnice is s rank lol

burnice and caesar are s ranks

the fire anomaly and phis defense from sons of caldyon

the only new a rank they will be getting is lighter

[sullen lodge]

i thought the leaks said she was A rank in caesar's banner on 1.3

miyabi and caeser 1.3

[nimble steppe]

honestly the release order is fucked

ive seen a million different opinions on order

[sullen lodge]

well we'll find out in like a month then

[nimble steppe]

in 2 weeks

[granite lark]

Creator server goes up soon

[nimble steppe]

when 1.2 beta opens

yea

[sullen lodge]

even better

[nimble steppe]

but im 99% sure

it will be caesar and burnice s ranks with lighter a rank

id shit myself if lighter was the s rank

i would love that

but it wont happen

which is not the worst cause imma m6r5 him

hopefuly he's on caesar's banner cause i want her more than burnice

[granite lark]

Can’t break legs on Critical 7 so guess I’m replacing Anby with Piper in my Ether comp

[unreal sonnet]

this game probably gunna get my to finally give up on epic seven, cause i can really only stand to play games like 2 hours a day max

and im sorta tired of wasting it on e7

[granite lark]

Good

https://tenor.com/view/stantwt-chained-up-chained-gif-67266779391248431

[unreal sonnet]

[thorny flame]

Miyabi and Ceaser in the same patch

[nimble steppe]

i really doubt they would put 2 faction leaders in the same patch but at the same time the fuckers want to squeeze as much money out of everyone so who knows

im thinking caesar and burnice in 1.2 and from 1.3 onwards its miyabi's faction

[fleet valley]

You can do it if you believeee

Oh, then it's your lvl

Wait

Then.... Idk

I did shiyu 9 with 14s left on lvl 40 all, but ofc, with ice team

But you need it for skill up

Wait, core up

And core up gives stats

Oh

Right

I mean, it's secondary since we understand how mihoyo games now

It's not too late to quit this unhealthy lifestyle

You mainly just farm anything else aside disc for now

If that's your choice

Since disc is the late game content

I'll try farming it a bit since my team is almost built

[granite lark]

You dont need to until you hit 50

[alpine hound]

Ben dupes are actually trash

No energy help and little dmg increase most of it is making him a better tank

Which honestly you should rather invest on dmg over tanking

[unreal sonnet]

its not like i was chasing lol

i just do every standard summon i get and i got him

and a little bit of seeing if i would get zhu as well

that was the most recent ben that was excessive dupe

[pearl lantern]

[alpine hound]

Ben is the trap so you dont get nicole because nicoles ones are gud

Most are energy related

[steady osprey]

alright 2 weeks to build piper and corin then we mald in the last 2

[granite lark]

Godspeed Soldier

[alpine hound]

Shouldn't it be a whole month till next reset?

[steady osprey]

it says 14 days

[alpine hound]

Oh so first month for only first rotation

[steady osprey]

[nimble steppe]

Makes sense, nobody would be able to s rank full the first one if it only had 14 days

[alpine hound]

I mean this should always be the case

I remember complaining about 1st not being a month cuz it was almost a week for hsr hardest abyss

And stats matter more in turn based game

[nimble steppe]

Yea

[granite lark]

Finally got my Zhu Yuan to hit for 1 million on her ult

[sullen lodge]

i believe in zhu supremacy

[raw roost]

damn my standard pity is on weapon again

[terse pivot]

[terse pivot]

Nvm it's good

Pog

@steady osprey furry guy elp

[steady osprey]

im not furry guy

that artifact is good for furry guy tho

[terse pivot]

You're furry guy now

[unreal sonnet]

he's a performance artist

https://tenor.com/view/fuck-you-leather-man-ah-fuck-you-leather-man-gachi-billy-harrington-gif-19052181

[terse pivot]

Why do these 2 reminds me of

Kafka and Silver Wolf

[steady osprey]

yeah nice cake

they are fast ngl

[terse pivot]

[terse pivot]

Bad hululu

[pale flint]

who is the next banner after the cop

girl

[terse pivot]

Your mom

[pale flint]

no I am your mom

https://tenor.com/view/poe-path-of-exile-login-play-poe-login-gif-26508840

waiting for jane doe

adult kokona

https://tenor.com/view/blue-aarchive-kokona-gif-7173486246104598382

[coral bronze]

the resemblance is uncunny

uncanny

[raw roost]

Lol I got the same

[graceful solar]

[loud orchid]

they just watch a movie you freak

[unreal sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/nymn-shaq-very-nice-verysoy-soda-gif-20472178

man couldn't they have gotten like at least a little bit more variety with the trust building stuff

ellen has now come to my house to use my internet and buy tickets to a live show approximately 4 times now

and we've gotten snacks from the store like 3 times

[thorny rapids]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leRS6hwqZto&t=2s

[thorny flame]

Cop 2

[raw roost]

Yeah that's one hangup I have, or at least streamline it a bit if you've seen it once, u noe

[unreal sonnet]

all things given its not too bad though. you have to go through so many hoops for friendship/trust things in other games

i guess i shouldn't complain

[raw roost]

yeah but id still put it into feedback if they ask

[pale flint]

the big ass thigh BA police student ok

ok

@vague wolf would cheat on hina for her

[worldly jungle]

make sense was brand new gacha from hoyo that month will see how numbers goonna be when natlan realeases 🤔

genshin in july had siegwine and hsr jade on banners make sense why numbers are so low

ww made less money in july than siegwinne banner

[pale flint]

it will go down

for zzz

mihoyo games are always hypers

[worldly jungle]

damn genshin first month made 248 mil

[fervent sandal]

https://x.com/ZZZ_EN/status/1819221674778415596

Zenless Zone Zero (@ZZZ_EN) on X

Ridu Journal 丨 Qingyi

Twitter · Aug 2, 2024, 4:00 AM

[vague wolf]

Imbecile

[median igloo]

Hina

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1260324077407699046.gif?size=128&quality=lossless

[mental sonnet]

is ellen still obtainable i never played this game

or do i need to wait banner

[last ledge]

ellen gone

you'll have to wait for a while, dont know how long

[mental sonnet]

legit i only care about ellen and nicole

i wonder why

those two

Clueless

[last ledge]

well you get nicole by default

so theres that

[mental sonnet]

oh u dont have to pull?

[last ledge]

no you get her from the tutorial or story i cant remember

[mental sonnet]

ah thats nice

[last ledge]

you can pull to upgrade her since she's part of the current banner

up to you

[mental sonnet]

ah nice

is nicole worth upgrading or is she fine without pulling copies

[little elk]

Burnice

[loud orchid]

she is a 4* so you will eventually have copies of her, but in this game the 4* copies are extremely impactful

you can play without them but you will definitely notice the difference when you have them

[mental sonnet]

ah

[vague wolf]

E6 is a must basically

[mental sonnet]

is e6 nicole f2p possible

i played genshin but not this

[vague wolf]

If ent can do it

So can u

[mental sonnet]

ah

why are the animations so crazy though they are like adhd tiktok shit

i cant see wtf is going on

💀

[loud orchid]

uh

skill issue

[raw roost]

You'll get used to it

[pearl lantern]

Like Genshin, if you play long enough

[raw roost]

Oh strim is tomorrow wrong date

[granite lark]

I 2-man’d Nineveh on Extreme Ether Activity with Nicole and no stunner

In a minute mind you

That character is broken

[raw roost]

https://x.com/masa_manga/status/1819009117966725500/photo/1 lol

Masa-san (@masa_manga) on X

無課金おじさん実装まだ？
💥🔨

#ゼンゼロ Yusuf Dikeç

Twitter · Aug 1, 2024, 1:55 PM

[glacial anchor]

https://x.com/Ex_trident/status/1819308065306419437

ExTrident (@Ex_trident) on X

#zzzero #ゼンゼロ

Twitter · Aug 2, 2024, 9:43 AM

[coral bronze]

[summer jay]

standard goes crazy

[unreal sonnet]

damn bro has the patience of a saint waiting for 10-pull

nice pull

[summer jay]

m4 nicole and m2 lucy

[versed trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/abell46s-reface-funny-hangry-furioso-gif-20238665

[terse pivot]

More I play more annoying Ellen voice is

[unreal sonnet]

my game is muted unless lycaon is speaking

[steady osprey]

[terse pivot]

Stop post that emote

[steady osprey]

[last ledge]

Stop post that emote

[steady osprey]

[unreal sonnet]

someone likes fox girls

[terse pivot]

Gotta say

Music in ZZZ is way better than HRS

[raw roost]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIUvwno55Zo i wish we can use this song for city music everytime

[versed trellis]

jazz

music

@raw roost

[nimble steppe]

https://x.com/Ex_trident/status/1819308065306419437

ExTrident (@Ex_trident) on X

#zzzero #ゼンゼロ

Twitter · Aug 2, 2024, 9:43 AM

wow

literally posted a little while ago

FUCK

[torn elk]

[nimble steppe]

my fav is the other morning theme from lumina

the other one besides this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jq7-slwEc30&ab_channel=Подождите

this one

[raw roost]

both of those are good too yeah

[last ledge]

i wish we could play custom music outside of our room

[terse pivot]

This bangoo side quest is so long

[alpine hound]

Bro first revenue and they already getting stingy with survey rewards

💀

[steady osprey]

[alpine hound]

30k deenies survey rewad

[steady osprey]

kurogames would have sent 20 pulls

[terse pivot]

How the fuck

[sullen lodge]

Wait are you rly stuck on baby's first puzzle?

[terse pivot]

Monkey brain

Got it

[sullen lodge]

[terse pivot]

So far so good

[coral bronze]

shit just bugged after 20min of hollow

[alpine hound]

[coral bronze]

can't make this up

holy shit

[alpine hound]

Im done with everything this week

And this event might as be a login reward

[coral bronze]

yeah

basically just login, use resin in 1.5 minutes and log out

these devs are absolute legends at game design, so good

[sullen lodge]

i like that tbh

hell i wish it had sweeps for the repetitive missions that need energy

as you're just brainlessly going through those anyway, not like there's anything to them

beats running around an open world for 15 minutes doing random gathering or some shit for dailies

[coral bronze]

I don't know, I think it's ridiculous sometimes, even though I'm playing 3 gachas atm

the game just turns into a waiting room for people to spend money on the next new thing

you can't play the game even if you wanted to

that is mind boggling

[sullen lodge]

i mean yeah it's a gacha

all gachas daily loop basically just turns into trying to upgrade your stats and gambling on new units

and then every once in a while actually playing the game with a new patch

since that's the case, i'd rather have the repetitive stuff you need to do every day that nobody gives a shit about to be over with quick

then you can just do wahtever you want like hollow zero weeklies or shiyu when you care enough to

it's not like random mintpicking is actual gameplay anyway

[coral bronze]

yeah, it's perfect for a gacha, the loop is always boring, so making it take as little time as possible is good

[sullen lodge]

that's why most gachas have sweeps nowadays, because they also acknowledge that the usual loop of emptying your energy/stamina manually is kind of annoying as hell

but well, mihoyo still behind on qol so i'm not expecting anything from them

[coral bronze]

it's crazy that they announced some fixes for 1.2

and not even 1.1 is out

I managed to quit league, maybe this year I'll free myself from the gacha curse too

[sullen lodge]

[terse pivot]

Good

[coral bronze]

[terse pivot]

Want me to log in dawg?

[granite lark]

Next time this happens, alt f4 then relog

[coral bronze]

tried it, didn't work

[pearl lantern]