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yah i spent on whatever the initial bundles were
very possible I would have been off the wengine by 10 or so pulls probably
I would have probably had to finish the pulling when the month ends
and that would have locked me out of the pity soldier wengine
just whatever the bundles are in the store that give you pulls and shit
you wont pay for them dont worry about it
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no i'm saying you wont pay for them
because you're stuck trying to make $5 in your chinese mmo game
oh okay 

here i'll go screenshot you whats left
I'm just considering the BP and welkin tbh
yah

i mean if you think thats a whale
i'm basically tapped out on zzz unless they provide other good deals
which I guess hoyo doesn't do
i will enjoy my fat ass cop
Understandable
I still think, pulls > everything else
You'll be drowned in resources after a year anyway

like
I see
l8r
Wtf actually working

Shh
Stop trying to expose me
Ik I'm a bad person

Everyone around me deserves better
das me
why you calling me out brother
I'm just at work at 2am 

@terse pivot he stole ur luck
?????
Does anyone here actually use grace
Bro make all ether stuff free on dailies and 10 stamina pack for zhuan farming holy marketing

Also another unit with a massive qol improvement on s1

At this point you save for 2 pulls of 1 S cuz their first dupe seems to be such a massive qol feature
Actually pathetic
Bullet character that gets a bunch of extra bullets on dupe 1 when you run out of ammo

30 PULLS
crazy actually
how lucky i am 
but ig i was just as lucky in genshin early on
must be nice
I do
I do
honestly, if this girl was playable I'd be pulling for her instead of zhu yuan or whatever
Skipping Ellen worked!!! โค๏ธ
you had no interest in ellen?
no, i dont want a maid.
maybe if she wasnt a maid, i would have went for ellen.
i went for m1 and i got lucky 
idk like 60 pulls
wow, pretty lucky

I did 130 pulls and all I got was a cat
i want the cat
i wanna get more of the standard banner summons because i think mine is like 14 away from a guaranteed s
it will be a HUGE shame if i fail a 1/6 or whatever check and just get a dupe lycan, i just want ANY other S-rank
1/12, don't forget about the w engines 
oh really? fug
i mean an s-engine isn't bad but i need at least some diversity here
where would I be without you shanners
I dunno but all I need is Hina
not surprised, JP bros really take into this game it seems like
and yet you're always there for me in my time of need. what would hina think?
only market that matters
the amount of ellen fanarts i've seen from them is crazy

i honestly thought zhu yuan is not JP's taste but i'm surprised 
i got koreda 
gotta say though her story convinces me to pull for her
i need energy cause i cant gear up koleda or ben right now, no agent materials
and idk who would be a good attacker for the team
i guess just anton
That's a lot....
join the piper gang
Pipe her
sad
Be happy you got ellen and her weapon
5 wtff..

i mean it's balanced out by the terrible luck on everything else
Now I gotta wait a year until her weapon rerun
And she probably would've gotten outcrept
probably
where is the summon details
but you won't have to pull if that happens
its on hoyolab right?
third party? 
Can we get this pinned?
Mods 
He's our janitor too, wake him up
anyway
Use this 
i checked it and it seemed like i would have to do stuff so no thanks
too lazy for that shit
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unreal
you could have won the lottery
congrats
not feeling so hot chief
my god shes so 
this is all fake isnt it
4 SSR 2 times
yeah he's usually just taking pics off twitter or something with someone lucksacked and farming in a discord with the pics xD
if you look the uid of the multi zhu yuan is different than the multi weapon one
Latter



I didn't know that word is banned



rip 50/50 for jane
bro fuck this game, not even an ass view in the character menu
for This character
not muted, its probably just discord server
Embed failure
it might load up in like a minute or two

what exactly does this shit do by the way i skipped the tutorial and i cannot notice anything visually or anything
makes their hair glow when u use signature wepon

anywayss why are there so many lucker dogs here

I think it's you being unlucky

Time to reroll
it'll even out
holy shit
yeah checks out
ben is a 
if i read his kit correctly he's pretty much shield bot to give crit rate right, i love faceroll characters like that
on one hand I've won my 50/50's x3 so far but they've all been high 70's
where do you see this?
i'll take that tbf
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This guy is a legend
this guy can be so basic sometimes - this back view is peak
they just gave me three events in one go
girls in uniform
i feel like usually you'd think the katana girl is supposed to be the one everyone wants
but no one talks about her 
^
i agree
i'm basically done with pulling unless its to boost soldier 11 or zhu
only character that I want is the sword and shield girl
and only because I like swords and shields
they are waiting the right moment to drop a duster's lvl of coomer
will make everyone coom non-stop
who
yeah
because im gonna skip zhu, skip jane, skip zhu's collegue
all of them doesnt look...
idk
mid
oh
didnt notice
i never watch the trailer
step up your game mihoyo

all I know is the next character I want wont come for months
you probably have kids by the time that comes
damn so I could c6 her
When will my sack get lucky 

man it's fucking crazy what a boost zhu's m1 is
just hammers home even more the fact that you rly do just get an incomplete character at at a single copy in hoyo games

is it really that good?
i just use her for burst and by the time my 8 bullets are gone the buffs are gone as well
uh let me film something just to show you how big of dps boost and qol it is
like it feels like with the extra 6 bullets i'd just be doing decent damage but with out any of the def debuffs nicole gives or whatever
it's not just 6 extra bullets most of the time, it also just means you don't have to give a single shit about having bullets stocked up for when you go into chain attacks and burst phase either which is just so nice
i did just try and see just how long i could just hold left click so i did go into it with full everything, just cuz i was curious myself
I see
yeah i guess the extra bullets is a nice QoL
its more complicated with zhu for sure but I kind of already keep track of that with soldier
like i'm just doing whatever here but look at how much i can just shoot without a care in the world without even using my skill
not only does that still severely increase my dps during burst when i actually start being optimal but it also just makes life so much easier
it's a buff
not a stack
when you're empty, it just automatically gives you 6 or 9
depending on if it's the ult reload or the chain reload
in this case it seems ult reload gives priority since even though i used chain first, it reloaded 9 bullets
though since there's no reload animation it doesn't rly matter
yeah that does feel pretty good to just fire and forget
unless there's some stuff i missed that gives her extra dmg the more bullets you have or whatever
I have to bullet count 
it's a crazy dps boost and it's crazy qol
wild that we alrdy get shit like that in 1.0 tbh
no she's still obviously a top dps for now even at m0
like by the time you do your quick assist > ult > enhanced shots your de/buff set ups go away by then I think
but yeah the extra streamlining is good
and if you do chain > quick > ult you'll definitely wear out the buffs by then I think
thats the cope.
i love attack characters that can also inflict status
zhu yuan should be good for at least that
i dont really like range characters
i think she does more damage if you burst upfront
wtf
yeah i think there's a mechanic for all(?) characters where there's a damage drop off depending on range
so gun characters still want to fight in melee or at least close to melee range
i ahvent checked but I think billy was the only case I've seen where you want to be far away when you do his hold attack
or maybe its just a dmg buff when you hold 
the jp dub for zzz is pretty good tbh, i rly like zhu and nicole's voice 
time to switch back to chinese now though 
wtf i like mewmew now
a character with gun and ammo mechanic that gets extra ammo when getting outof ammo surely that is not gud 
this is literally how ellen with m1 feels you have infinite stacks so you will always basic attack with stacks
this is actuallyabsurd just go full
and keep shooting
is she sleeping?
yea
bro how tf am i suppose to reach 2.5k attack
as least recommended
well maybe im lacking atk% 6 slot
but i doubt it will make 700 attack difference

she is almost full complete only need slot 6 atk%
everything else +15
too op

yeah it's crazy how nice it feels at m1
How much attack you loose if you remove your slot6

i tried to get full corruption
also zhu m1 is disgustingly overrated
sigs in this game are still way better than early minds
same goes for ellen and her m1
its exaggerated
by poeple who don't know any better
the amount of stats sigs give in this game is simply way better
shooting for that long is not good either way
you miss out on buffs from your other characters
you should never spend this long on a single character in burst phase
i will choose to believe you because that was my initial thought 
again, same for ellen
the m1 is only good to generate more stacks before a rotation
you dont ever spend that much time with ellen onfield
like
just look at how much stats sigs give 
when people start getting good artifact sets, nobody will give a shit if your zhu shoots 70 million shells
when they do 4k damage tops
meanwhile a m0r1 guy shoots 9 times for 15k crits or more each
ur basically in whale territory at that point

u should be doing that much
real dps dupes in hoyos games are c2s usually
ellens m2 is the real neverending combo one :))
and they happen way faster than just having m1
which allows you to actually swap to supports to refresh buffs/debuffs
Well yes sig improves dmg and m1 allows you the attempts to do extra dmg, it is always worth getting sig then m1
of course
if you're lucky you can
or if you save alot
but it's considered whale level fairly sure
The funny thing is i only pulled until i got anton max dupe but i got more anton dupes from standard compared to 100+ limited pulls

I got 4 from standard and 3 for elen banner
3 after 100 pulls
unfortuante

u got m1r1 zhu or ellen
o wait
yea
mb
i forgot anton was on the last banner lol
funny thing is, some en testers and some cn testers are currently having different results with her own wengine dmg
with some en testers like guoba only having it 6% higher dmg than starlight p5
which would absolutely not make it worth much at all
and 2 cn testers in specific having it at 20%~ more dmg than starlight
isnt starlight critrate
that's inheritly worse
it should be way above starlight
i fail to see how starlight is even remotely good for her
i wouldn't even pick it as my arank engine
its not even crit
no starlight is atk%
I doubt sig is worse cuz sig usually has a builtin passive created for that unit to excel
yes, her sig has extra ether damage on the next 8? attacks after using skill
another reason why m1 is not as crazy
sig bonus can't keep up with the million shots
again, m1 is not bad, its just not that crazy 
unless you're specifically doing solo runs
my final argument is
these calcs will look a million times different like... 6 months to a year from now on when everyone has optimized disk sets
an atk% weapon will be infinitely worse than a crit one
hey take it up with the testers, for the record the cn testers actually would have gotten similar results but there's potentially misunderstandings about how exactly combat dmg works
i think there's some post this dude made showing his math
keep in mind that the motivation to put this shit out in 1.0 is not to be accurate, it's to be first
so they make all kinds of stupid assumptions
yeah but that goes for everyone
and miss details
idk
i just simply
cannot see how having like
100% cr - 150% cd and like 2k attack
is better than having shit crits and 3k attack
or more
it simply doesn't add up
multiplicative bonuses vs additive bonuses
hoyo loves to stack multis on top of each other
it sounded like you were proposing that the 3k attack could be better
nah
i'm just going to go pew pew pew with zhu
atk stacking is only better on something like lucy
supports are the only real atk stackers
yeah no it will never be in this game unless you have some special benefit for stacking atk like they do in genshin
atk scaling supports
yea lucy and sokaku do 
same shit as in genshin
yes
ye
oh
where stacking atk directly gives you a buff that competes with crit up to a certain amount
yeah when we get those there will be some interesting build choices
its kinda crazy this game has more useful damage stats than just atk
like if you don't need atk%
you can roll pen and its really good too
yup
pen as a buildable stat was an interesting choice
its like an alternative to crit basically
probably will have a crit:pen ratio later on in the game when people have actual gear
substats and weapon choices matter there too
Cuz pen% very gud but pen flat is equivalent of flat attack
just not main stat for that 4th slot
And pen% is not obtainable through substatd
yeah
we'll see
it lets them make really high defense enemies without breaking the game
so maybe it will become valuable
I mean pen % is stll very gud
no i mean the flat ones
But like - 50 def aint that high
Even if you get flat pen 8 on all 6 its 48
If our units have 800 def
Then enemy has 1k + making 50 flat pen meh
i'm just in disbelief that they would make such an actual trash stat
so i have a feeling htere's some aspect to it we don't know about yet
then again it's hoyo

yeah..
Well if its something that's not hp and def I'll take it
Im more surprised impact can exclusively be obtained from slot 6 only
In gear
They really dont want you to get attackers with high impact and given the stunner role more importance
i have a suspicion that impact and anomaly are going to be broken stats later on
there's no way that they succeed at avoiding creeping them to the point where you can just apply 3-4 status instantly
it's not the hoyo way
they will fuck that up
You ca? From what i have seen in combat you can see which effect enemy is effected with
And it overwrites the different element one
yeah you get an elemental reaction
Isn't it more x element specific effect rather then effect cuz 2 elements were present
I'm not sure yet but there are definitely combination elements
was gonna say that maybe pen% is a better mainstat for anomaly
I know there's also some special interactions with physical but I haven't read about it or figured it out yet
but anomaly needs AM on that slot
maybe a character that doesn't really need AM on 4 bcs of sig or something

im 99% sure reactions cant crit so if you dont need am/ap on disk 4 pen% is way better
Making it easy for them to separate role advantages
what disk is impact btw
6
are u lv40 yet
44
i'm working on 50 for my characters
Doesn't this game have x element resist, it probably gets effected by base element resists over pen %
Pen % probably skips def only
Yes game does element resist its written on enemy info in shiyuu defense
Well ice and ether will be buffed cuz of limited unitd
Next is probably electric and whatever jana is
i think jane was phys anomaly or something
I'm pretty sure impact has nothing to do with def but idk the game fomula for stun
Why cant devs just show formulas
They fking write that shit might as well show to players as well

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He stole it from reddit
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Too late
I've already asleep

something something smell something something piss

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time to eat ellen
the cop girl will be mid later on
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Mods, you see him
I got the ellen shark fin soup so I am immune
make it under it
Sheeeesh

What's the al gameplay?
ZZZ gonna be on the same road like hsr and genshin
and honkai impact
later on
just auto

I play for realy boobs and swipe on skin
He's lost
they do need sweep from blue archive
I gonna enjoyed zzz honey moon before it reach the same lvl as hsr and genshin and honkai impact
I got one
Just get lucky
With crit or crit dmg stat
Im only raising those have 1 CR/cdg + attack%
Both C stats or one of them +flat atk +flat pen
genshin and hsr
pretty funny that more rng on 6 disc piece than genshin artifact
while hsr have rope and orb as extra
max pity, but lost to Lycaon and Rina, so I'll take it
Never having Fob summon for me again tho
mr swipe
yeah ngl I wish I didn't get noticed that shit was abysmal


you should see my hsr stats
I would say those luck don't mean shit
u can get very lucky in one day
then nada

oof
LMAO
If I swipe I would be like asmon
winners win?
statistically if i had infinite money to swipe i'd end up close to the stated average
but each player is an individual different set of statistical probabilities
so in my case i'm just the bottom of the bell curve
these are my hsr rates

Depends on the number of 5* he rolled. And he has the get better consistent luck next time
what's the next char banner
some people on the leakers sub say 1.3 but idk why theyre sure of it
drip marketing soon (maybe) then we'll know 1.2 for sure
vtuber faction or sons of calydon soon please
Cannot unsee miyabi eye gap
That's what I have in mind when mihoyo mentioned model improvement
what did you do to get so cursed 
i'll probably pull qingyi just cuz she seems so versatile and cuz anby is rly boring 
anby is cool and cute 
her gameplay is still boring though 
She's funny at times too 



It's pretty weird that most fanart portrays the male MC being normal
FGO influence

how is luck calculated here, does it include missing 50/50s or just when you get an s rank?
cuz i wouldn't mind being in the bottom 1% and having to full pity every single banner if i win my 50/50s 
There's like a rate up win rate too
oh yeah if that's part of luck then that does suck 
yeah surely everyone's luck will have to even out eventually right 

Sure....
Don't worry man
When the anniv starts, you'll probably start looking at other game

how much currency do you get per week at max efficency
You get 60 daily
The abyss looks like it reset weekly
And I can bet its above 10th stage
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Actual fighting game guy deconstruct iyo's bullshit
would admit this mod kinda ruins

the gun clips into the booba, its big, but the shape isnt it 
i can also get to 45 today if i do all the remaining 4 side stories
but thats too much stuff

also 5 days to build my anton before next rotation

isnt this bad should it be 1:4 ratio
too much cdmg too little cit
and my artifacts are not even that good
my 4 disk is a rank
this would have never been possible with s5 starlight

did you level up a ranks
no
but i leveled up this particular one cause it was the only critrate disk with goodsubstats
from the same set
so i kinda had to use that
im missing 4 levels
from what i have heard what makes the gap not as massive as ellen is because the 35% buff is additive not multipicative
on w engine
im just saving until i get at least one crit sub stat and no 3 def hf stats

is that really true
saw a youtube ๐ค guy video on it , according to them they are saying cn is considering it multipicative thats what causing the problem
thus the gap between numbers
i dont think its multiplicative rofl
that would kill all engine passives
that sounds insanely silly and i'd love to know how they came to that conclusion
actually we can test that
they did the maths ๐ค โ๏ธ

how do u do maths on how a formula works
did they screenshot all of their damage numbers or what
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by obviously looking at dmg numbers and repeating the same loop with stat modifications only (with gear or disk etc)
i really dont think that works lmao
im heavily doubting the fact that they can get any accurate results with that method
im gonna trust cn bros

as i was saying
it's additive
lmfao
im telling u dude
the scene is too young for actual good EN tcs
we need someone like tgs for this game
who actually understands how the game works
it's not crit or crit dmg, it was something to do with atk% gained in combat being calculated differently from normal atk%
there is nothing really new here that hasnt existed in rpgs for decades
or uh not atk, for this case it was combat dmg from the wengine
in which case you'd actually be on the en tc's side
Do you guys build with purple artifacts?
you're all as broke as me
its a good thing i don't receive the resources to even spend money
gotta progress account more for that
you got got 
wtf
how do you push both down at the same time
that's the trick
you can only step on any tile once
if you push the left one up first, then go right and push it in and push the left one to the left it should work, but also you i don't think you have to do both at the same time in the first place right?
oh then you can just do what i said, start with left one, push it up, go one to the right side, push the right side in and then push left one to the left and that should be it
thank
i did both in one go the first time around but i didn't even know you had to
i figured just like the rewards you'd just pick them up and still be able to drop down and it's who cares you still got the items

grace as a teacher
im now imagining that one meme of the nice teacher lady with a secret dark past 
What would I do to be one of the student
very brainrot
We are talking about the 35% ether dmg from engine passive not cdmg
Dont you can farm golden very easily
Unironically you can start farming after level 35
For gold gear in the stage
Its 2 guaranteed gold
I'll farm the rest after I'm 45 for next tier rewards
Bro i deadass did that without thinking about a single decision ๐
Same

I was surprised how little i struggled in these so far zzz puzzles have been very easy compared to hsr
Hsr had too many connect light ones

im pretty okay at the puzzles, the only thing that has actually infuriated me so far is that occasionally they have these ones where you literally cannot see shit ahead of time or you just have to wander around aimlessly searching everything so you don't miss the 3 token things you are supposed to collect
but so far its mostly been pretty fair and made so you can't really fail
one of the ones i hated was when you chase the golden bangboo if you recall that one
Not the golden bangboi

That shit is so overused in side quests
it's fun to smack the coins out of the golden bangboo though
they should have given us more of that
the bangboos are really cute but money...
finished building her ๐

man i need more crit dmg i want to hit atleast 200% ๐ฆ
shes like 20
read the side story 
this hollow nest boss
is disgusting
im fairly sure this thing has 0 parryable attacks
and she goes into a mode where she fires a million bullets in a game where dodge doesnt make u immune
wtf
actual defense character check
yes
tbf i entered it with too low hp
but it was genuinely unbeatable
idk if it even has 2 phases
cause i couldn't beat the first one
gideon ofnir the all knowing 
those are not her real classmates bruh
she's an adult 
unless u were trolling
in stasis sleep when she lost her father and before that hollow 9/11 till now.
wat
im trolling 

what does belle mean by this
thats what nicole said actually
i beat it
u have to stun her at low hp
then actually finish her off
or else she goes into touhou and its unwinnable
lol
its actually hades debuffs
and you have to do these cause the last one gives artifact stat selector
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