Zenless Zone Zero

[steady osprey]

to get 3 ssrs

[nimble steppe]

ellen and both her sig

in 60 pulls

[nova kraken]

bro i only have one

[steady osprey]

skill issue ig

[nimble steppe]

[nova kraken]

only the fucking guarantee

this game is a joke

[steady osprey]

did u buy bp or monthly?

[nova kraken]

no

[steady osprey]

thats it

[nova kraken]

im not a loser

sorry

[steady osprey]

game detects money and gives u back ssr

[nimble steppe]

holy based

[thorny flame]

Ellen sig is eluding me

I can feel it

I will lose the 75/25

man

[grave stirrup]

quartz

i had one s rank till lvl 29

u aint alone

[loud orchid]

shark gorl damage is something else huh

even without sig

[polar reef]

[torn elk]

quartz complaining about bad luck

if only he knew how bad things really were

[unreal sonnet]

best way to cope

good for him

[last ledge]

i have soldier 11 and lucy

I guess i need koleda

game gave me koleda's engine its trying to tell me something

[steady osprey]

[last ledge]

game also gave me a dupe soldier 11

fire team only I guess

[loud orchid]

slowly buildin up da roster

[thorny flame]

No, you need piper for that assualt disorder team

I also ended up with Neko's engine when I don't have her lawl

at least its a crit weapon

[last ledge]

oh yeah I guess I could

I like stun though

[fleet valley]

ok guys

hit me up with the tier list

who should i have sex with?

[shell oriole]

furry guy

[fleet valley]

the furry guy aint build like LingYang

so mid

[graceful solar]

seggs Hoyo Forsen

wear a maid dress as well while doing it

[fleet valley]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1243988564467912838/1248146480347349002/ezgif-2-3d78e884fc.gif

waiting for a LingYang gf

[graceful solar]

that guy was a furry

Until Kuro realized that can't make furry models

that character got so much backlashed that they canned his furry design

[fleet valley]

how to reroll?

wheres the guest acc button

[fleet valley]

didnt like his last design anyway

https://tenor.com/view/awu-wuthering-waves-wuwa-pgr-punishing-gray-raven-gif-4868326628702940067

[graceful solar]

I genuinely thought this was a female furry

when I first saw it

[fleet valley]

he still looks like a female

🙂

ayooo, how to reroll

[graceful solar]

IDK never bothered

[fleet valley]

damn

[graceful solar]

check YouTube

I got furry daddy

so I didn't reroll

[fleet valley]

huh

[graceful solar]

already lost 50/50 to that maid with electricity

[fleet valley]

you got what you want, i see

[graceful solar]

so I'm guaranteed for Ellen

got Forsen Banboo as well

[thorny flame]

https://tenor.com/view/gloop-gif-25555044

[fleet valley]

idk what that means

[fleet valley]

[thorny flame]

Got Ellen signature weapon

[fleet valley]

its that shark thing from pokemon

cant say the shark name

[thorny flame]

[graceful solar]

[fleet valley]

dont show me these

i dont understand anything

[graceful solar]

play the game

and pull

[fleet valley]

im downloading the resources

[graceful solar]

you get a lot of free pulls

just by playing

[fleet valley]

will you hate me if i get 3 ssr including the rate up from a 10 pull?

[graceful solar]

no

[fleet valley]

[graceful solar]

happened to me already

[fleet valley]

oh

lucky mf and still complaining

[graceful solar]

I'm not enjoying the game

I just like the characters

I just press 2 buttons for now the whole fight and I win

it's very optimized though

especially on mobile

that's what I like about this game

[fleet valley]

isnt this just genshin all over again?

like wuwa?

[graceful solar]

and the characters

[graceful solar]

nah no open world

it's like star rail kind of open world

with improved Honkai impact combat

[fleet valley]

ahhh

[graceful solar]

the presentation of the game is pretty nice as well

[fleet valley]

so, its just dungeon like

[graceful solar]

good visuals

[fleet valley]

probably like snowbreak too?

[graceful solar]

haven't played snowbreak

so IDK really

the dungeon crawling part is like a minigame

[fleet valley]

[graceful solar]

you'll see what I'm talking about when you're there

[fleet valley]

88%, ill see the game for myself

[thorny flame]

The win screens are pretty cool

[graceful solar]

I like the end screen combat of this game

feels like a fighting game

like Guilty gear

[thorny flame]

Agreed, loving the music too

chapter 2 stage music been my favorite

[graceful solar]

yeah the music is the best aspect of this game

even getting a 5 star have a different theme

it feels really satisfying when you get one since you can listen to a jammer

while getting your 5 star

also they show the actual model this time for the model

not just insert png here

presentation wise this game is really good

[vague wolf]

No gin no okami, no download

[graceful solar]

IDK what that is

[vague wolf]

Silverwolf

[summer jay]

im trying to do dodge parries

the timing is pretty tight

[onyx anvil]

[inner sequoia]

zzzing

[vague wolf]

Gomen kayoko

[steady osprey]

zzzzing so hard

[onyx anvil]

shadup

[fleet valley]

Ngl

I like the gameplay so far

Still, I'm in tutorial

[shell oriole]

im still lv6

[steady osprey]

its a marathon , not a race

[graceful solar]

oh I don't think there will be a bronya on this one

[steady osprey]

[graceful solar]

there's this bitch though

I'm fucking deleting this game

after I get Ellen

[vague wolf]

It's to late

Ur to far behind

Wait for next hoyo game

[fleet valley]

I'm behind hina

[graceful solar]

Hoyo mmo

[shell oriole]

next hoyo is animal crossing

[graceful solar]

nah that's gonna be a mini game mode on this game

[shell oriole]

okay

[vague wolf]

Skip it

[shell oriole]

no

[serene quiver]

yes

[last ledge]

maybe

[steady osprey]

perhaps

[torn elk]

I don't know

[unreal sonnet]

💀

that is a cope

they will keep mking more game from different genre

qol?

later

I though zzz would replace Honkai Impact 3rd but nah

[vague wolf]

Hu he tall kin du

[unreal sonnet]

hina in animal crossing

and I will take her away from u

include anka

[fleet valley]

I have like glitch at the bottom of my screen

Anyone know why's that?

[shell oriole]

[fleet valley]

It's nothing major, but it's a bit annoying

[unreal sonnet]

[onyx anvil]

bruh the artifact farming is just as aids

[vague wolf]

No...

NOOOOO

NYOOT MAI DARLIN LIL ANGEL

[proud swallow]

I have gotten 3 S ranks so far in this game and every single one has been Rina, my Rina is C2

[unreal sonnet]

sound like classic mihoyo

[fleet valley]

So...

Nvm

I wanna ask about when to reroll and stuff

I'll just watch YouTube for it

[last ledge]

dont reroll accept your luck

[twilit plume]

I mean Hoyo just automatically fixes itself if you farm

(redacted) thought I was in another channel

[proud swallow]

just accepting your luck and building your team around what you got is some of the most fun you'll have in a gacha before it starts to drag

unless you just absolutely despise the design/playstyle of what you got then maybe not

[fleet valley]

Shush

[last ledge]

oh okay then

[fleet valley]

I'm oczzy

[twilit plume]

just win on the first try

[acoustic briar]

[autumn reef]

💔

No Ellen….

[graceful solar]

you can guarantee her

but not her weapon

[torn elk]

mfw I spent 2 days using Ben before I realized his skill has a follow-up input that reengages the target

[graceful solar]

it's a counter right?

[autumn reef]

You mean her W Engine?

Sorry this my first time playing a gacha game

[onyx anvil]

u mean the spin?

same

[fleet valley]

I've been rerolling like 5 accs

Got an acc with 2 ssr

But it's a furry

[torn elk]

There's an ability where like he fires his cannon and he goes backwards, and I always just switch when he does that so I stay on top of something, but I didn't realize I could just hit the button again and he charges back and and does a swipe afterwards

[onyx anvil]

wait

he can do that?

[last ledge]

uh oh get out while you still can

[fleet valley]

I recommend you don't 🙂

(we are actually serious)

[pearl lantern]

The big question is has he or her swipe

[torn elk]

got soldier 11

[graceful solar]

yea that

her engine thingy

[rigid quest]

run while you can before gacha claims you

[torn elk]

just don't spend your money and you will have more fun than everyone else in here

[last ledge]

actually true

well maybe spend a little

[last ledge]

nice, I like her now she does a lot of damage

maybe not as much as ellen or whatever

800 exp till lvl 30

[torn elk]

I like the timing of the attacks so they do fire shit

[last ledge]

I just saw what you meant by th is

too exploitive

but I might try

[nimble steppe]

piper is the best

but as long as you trigger those anomalies you can play anything

other phis units will obviously always be supbar to piper but if you build enough EM you can get similar results

[pearl lantern]

[nimble steppe]

ya i saw them as well

they wanted to pet the ticket dog

[pearl lantern]

i wanted to take photos of shops

[magic oar]

[alpine hound]

how tf you have enough stamina to raise all of them to 30

[magic oar]

ent is big whel

like ellen joe

big shark

[raw roost]

just notice shes named ellen joe because of the shark film

[loud orchid]

I used the fuels they give us

I only bought bp and welkin

[alpine hound]

bro the furry is best combo will ellen and the blue oni you get a fine ice team

[alpine hound]

if he is whale why is no one 40

my full team is 40 now

also still no anton c6

gonna get sukaku to c6 with one more due but anton stuck at c3

i just hope my next 5* is soldier 11 or furry dude cuz i have solid elemental teams for both

[last ledge]

solder 11 good

[alpine hound]

yeah i can have a team with all kids xdd

soldier 11 , hammer girl , baseball girl

fills all the gud class archetypes

[last ledge]

i didnt know about the strat

[alpine hound]

its not strat just how i play game kek

idc about meta in this nor i think it matters unless you omega rushing content

for example that assualt disorder comp is actually game breaking

you can do all content under levelled and timegate wont effect you

[last ledge]

yeah I dont think I'll do it

[loud orchid]

they prepping for future content

[last ledge]

I just play with what I got

[alpine hound]

but i like to play elemental comps so ill stay with that

[last ledge]

and I like anby so I have her in

[alpine hound]

anby my electro stunner

her at c6 pretty gud

[nimble steppe]

once people get proper artifacts ellen will still do more damage i feel like

disorder is fun but its another hyperbloom

[alpine hound]

but mine only dupe2

[nimble steppe]

good at low investments bad at higher ones most likely

[last ledge]

how do you have so many dupes

already

oh I didnt read after

[alpine hound]

.

[last ledge]

[nimble steppe]

c0r1 ellen has a total of 94% crit rate

without any artifacts

ellen with properlly built artifacts will do insane damage

nobody has that this early tho

[alpine hound]

[nimble steppe]

fully built i mean

lvl 60 weapon lvl 60 ellen and maxed core passive

[alpine hound]

isnt artifiact farming a joke until level 45

im just raising levels,wengine and skills

[nimble steppe]

uh

[alpine hound]

plus talents

not gonna bother with gud discs

[nimble steppe]

probably yea

[alpine hound]

until i can get S

[nimble steppe]

they're pretty decent for disorder tho

[last ledge]

i just got my setbonuses that looked good and then left it

[nimble steppe]

extra anomaly is always cool

more anomaly procs

[alpine hound]

tho having correct sets MATTER ALOT , so just farm for correct stats

[nimble steppe]

disorder is way easier to build as well

same as em in genshin

just get anomaly bonus and thats it

no need for crits or w.e

[alpine hound]

i might abandon the camera

[nimble steppe]

you can select mainstats with a token

[alpine hound]

for the broken anomaly B rank engine

at max dupes

[alpine hound]

once a season

[nimble steppe]

and you can trade another currency for a bunch of artifacts

[alpine hound]

[nimble steppe]

its way easier to grind artis in this game than hsr or genshin

which is better imo

[nimble steppe]

camera kinda sucks

[alpine hound]

i do like the restore feature

[nimble steppe]

i only play it cause i have nothing else for lucy

[alpine hound]

yeah from so far i have seen anomaly seems op

[nimble steppe]

ya anomaly will be best for a little while

until people farm their whale characters properly

in 1.1 we get fire anomaly character

[last ledge]

who

[nimble steppe]

90% sure next patch is biker gang release

[alpine hound]

this one

how gud is 16 anomaly

its considered 2nd best

for rina

[nimble steppe]

sounds about right

rina has no need for other stats so anomaly is best for her

aside maybe er

[loud orchid]

I pulled it, why not

[last ledge]

all i know is i'm saving for the cop girl whenever she comes out

[loud orchid]

it was like 60 pulls in

[nimble steppe]

based

zhu is also my fav 1.0 5star

but i rolled a bit for ellen and sig for fun

[last ledge]

i know nothing about her I havent even trialed her yet

i'll fit her in somehow

[nimble steppe]

shes a carry

like ellen s11 etc

but she's ether

daze burst dps

[last ledge]

oh good cause I wanted to use nicole

[nimble steppe]

ye

her only team is sadly zhu nicole anby

until 1,1 when her other teammates release

[last ledge]

perfect for me

now I know I'll roll

and then I'll probaby get bored of the game and quit for a year like I did HSR

[alpine hound]

donk make my mistake of recycle all 3*

[alpine hound]

at least keep this reverbone

[last ledge]

is lvl 60 the cap in this game

[versed trellis]

[last ledge]

okay

[fleet valley]

i got the yellow ssr girl

also in the team?

now what

[nimble steppe]

so far yes

from what ive seen

[unreal sonnet]

I didn't know this channel soon become Blue archive second channel

@vague wolf time for u to post hina in here

[alpine hound]

Hoyo has their on ba players wallets

[unreal sonnet]

💀 reason why lacari playing this game and swipe not say the same pharse: I will be f2p

everything seem connect

[alpine hound]

That's more cuz sponsored

[unreal sonnet]

nah he play again and swipe more

after sponsored

[alpine hound]

Tho after that stream if he whales

[unreal sonnet]

look at his yesterday stream

[alpine hound]

He did.?

[unreal sonnet]

Man I hope he stream more ZZZ before evo

to test

human habit

it is a very interesting topic that your body and brain will adapt to something even it is hard. Sooner or later your body adapt to it even without paying attention.

[versed trellis]

zzz

[unreal sonnet]

like I got used to play one button game

then it fuck up my habit

when I go back to osu

and rythm game

fucking fishing in nikke

curious will it affect lacari

I see real god of tekken toying him like a fiddle stick

[last ledge]

whats fishing in nikke like

[unreal sonnet]

rythm game

big fish 80 HP

[last ledge]

sounds uncomfy

[unreal sonnet]

it like very bad but

it is mid tier hard

[nimble steppe]

https://x.com/ZenlessW0rld/status/1810308638428311895

ZenlessWorldZero (@ZenlessW0rld) on X

Characters 1.1 ✨

#ZenlessZoneZero #ZZZero

Twitter · Jul 8, 2024, 1:43 PM

nevermind

zhu yuan's teammates next patch

no bikers yet

[steady osprey]

ok guys

i rorolled just for fun

[nimble steppe]

the girl on the right is electro, rest we have no clue

i hope the mouse girl is the 5star

[steady osprey]

what do i do now

[unreal sonnet]

swipe

not full

roster

be like asmon

winner wins

looser loose

[steady osprey]

i mean main account almost lvl35

but i have there furry , koleda soldier 11

[versed trellis]

anbi ellen and the blue girl

[nimble steppe]

grats

[nimble steppe]

u have team for her

u can play ellen soukaku rina

its very good

[nova kraken]

delete both accounts and quit the game

[versed trellis]

yea

[versed trellis]

[steady osprey]

Rina is good?

[versed trellis]

yes

[nimble steppe]

honestly

with this new disorder stuff no character is bad anymore

corin and billy can apply alot of phis so they're out of t2 as well

but rina is really strong yea

[loud orchid]

at least i got lucky once

[nimble steppe]

not bad

[unreal sonnet]

why are u playing both account?

go play maplestory with gokmon

[steady osprey]

i woke up and then i said what if i get ellen with the free 1600 that they gave us

and it happened

[alpine hound]

A normal looking female

[unreal sonnet]

they know u will quit

they smell u

[steady osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/loki-laugh-chuckles-chained-gif-13519122

i cant scape gachas

i tried before

[unreal sonnet]

how many are nows

[unreal sonnet]

I mean more

before all of these games

exist

[steady osprey]

i forgot to add bdo there

but thats a mmo

[unreal sonnet]

which one is the first gate

for u to enter gacha

[steady osprey]

depends

how ez is to play and how hot are the units

[unreal sonnet]

I am like soccer spirit 2 > girl x battle and summoner war

so I have the ability to quit gacha

or cope with high expectation about new gacha

make more reason to stop playing old ones

[steady osprey]

[clever acorn]

Ah.... I guess the game really wants me to keep playing for a bit more.

[pearl lantern]

1.. 5... mods..

[nimble steppe]

lol ok

[steady osprey]

xiping detected my ip and saw that i bought monthly with main account and gave me ellen

[versed trellis]

[steady osprey]

hoyoshill

[fleet valley]

@last ledge

Wdym by

We are guaranteed to get allen

But not her weapon?

[last ledge]

why you pinging me

I didnt say shit about ellen

[fleet valley]

Eh

Oh

It's tipsy

@graceful solar

[fleet valley]

You didn't know anything about that then?

[last ledge]

i havent rolled for banner at all

so I dont care

I assume theres some pity on banner but not on weapon

[steady osprey]

straw did u see my recent pic?

i got forsen

but with a new account

[last ledge]

which account you playing

[steady osprey]

forsen ig

[vague wolf]

the one that doesnt have this game to begin with

[last ledge]

shana you post in here a lot

are the other channels boring

[fleet valley]

True

At least post Hina before you shittalk

[steady osprey]

i wish they release a hinalike unit so i can just use it as bodyshield

[fleet valley]

Zzz x BA

[steady osprey]

mid hoe

[fleet valley]

[nimble steppe]

https://x.com/ubatcha1/status/1810349154184372292?s=46

UBatcha (@Ubatcha1) on X

QingYi - Electric Stun
Jane Doe - Physical Anomaly
Seth - Electric Defense

Sigh, someone else posted incorrectly I believe so here

Twitter · Jul 8, 2024, 4:24 PM

roles for the 1.1 chars

[loud orchid]

jane doe is wild

[full pine]

jane doe

[nimble steppe]

https://x.com/kdekovak/status/1810340307038286205?s=46&t=eHLUxViBa-5tGcqS3Uzfng

K O V A K (@KdeKovaK) on X

Rareza Nuevos Personajes 1.1 — Zenless Zone Zero

QingYi - S Rank
Jane Doe - S Rank
Seth - A Rank

Via Ubatcha.

#ZenlessZoneZero #ZZZero #ゼンゼロ #ZZZ #zenless0704

Twitter · Jul 8, 2024, 3:48 PM

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1809718356552908801/pu/vid/avc1/1280x720/ykxGwn6gtB9IwEwZ.mp4

air juggles

[magic oar]

omg it's just like a fighting game

[versed trellis]

frfr

[alpine hound]

Wow what a pointless thing i can never achieve because doing 1 parry will completely stop the combo flow

Tho enemy on air or ground doesn't make too difference they dont move

Might as well get free dmg with few parries

Also the qte to interrupt the flow

[unreal sonnet]

[nimble steppe]

who is he talking to

[loud orchid]

fess up now chat

which of you helped kind bear

i elped

[nimble steppe]

where was this

[unreal sonnet]

u don't need to talk anymore soon they will stop playing ZZZ

when they get deep enough

taste the classic of mihoyp

more new gacha game have better content with one button more than zzz anyway

mihoyo animal crossing and mmo soon

[nimble steppe]

i just dont understand why he's flinging shit and misinfo when he's clearly not enjoying the game

if you dont like it just stop

[unreal sonnet]

not that just zzz copers

keep saying about fighhting games

comparing with this shit

[last ledge]

just gotta play casual it'll be fine

once a week

[nimble steppe]

i mean

[last ledge]

[nimble steppe]

it's not a fighting game at all

[unreal sonnet]

popular pharse

[nimble steppe]

but there was some inspiration

with all the hidden combos

[unreal sonnet]

bruh if u said that in fighting game community

they will roast u alive

[nimble steppe]

nobody would give a shit

[unreal sonnet]

no joke

[nimble steppe]

fgc only play their fgc shit

brother

you don't know shit about any community

[last ledge]

where is this fighting game meme coming from

[nimble steppe]

they would have enver played this game anyway

[unreal sonnet]

try it then

[last ledge]

did the devs say it

[nimble steppe]

kuro shills

[unreal sonnet]

the roundtable

[nimble steppe]

working overtime for free

[last ledge]

what is the roundtable

[nimble steppe]

they had a chat with sf6 devs

[unreal sonnet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CG6bOYI9fpo

[nimble steppe]

and zzz main producer said one of his main inspirations for the game was sf6

[unreal sonnet]

literaly try fishing fighting game community

[nimble steppe]

if you notice the stuff that gets said here is a complete twist of their words

[last ledge]

oh I see

[unreal sonnet]

I dare u

try

[nimble steppe]

just ignore

[unreal sonnet]

to say that in

[nimble steppe]

they'll get bored of shitposting in a while

[last ledge]

am I having a better time with this game because

I dont know what you guys are talking about half the time

[charred crest]

They really baited the fighting bros

There’s almost nothing in common

[unreal sonnet]

I say they're false advertising

zzz

[nimble steppe]

but thats just cope

[thorny flame]

180 free pulls

[nimble steppe]

there's clearly inspiration from fgs, that doesn't mean it has to be a literal fighting game

[charred crest]

Yeah they knew ahead that they weren’t gonna have a lot of joiners so they baited fighting bros

[nimble steppe]

[charred crest]

I know they may have a few mechanics

[nimble steppe]

no actual fg player is playing this for that reason lol

[unreal sonnet]

pretty much

[charred crest]

But not enough to justify what they were trying

Snakes

[unreal sonnet]

try to monopoly on fighting game

[charred crest]

🚬

[unreal sonnet]

is the worst mistake

[nimble steppe]

wtf r u saying schizo

[charred crest]

I dont get what he saying either

[last ledge]

[thorny flame]

I'm sorry did you guys miss the almost 50 mil pre-reg ? tf you mean they knew not alot of joiners ?

[charred crest]

I think he just woke up

[unreal sonnet]

[charred crest]

No worries take your time bro

[nimble steppe]

and the fact that the game allready made more money than jinshi in wuwa

rofl

[charred crest]

[thorny flame]

[unreal sonnet]

[charred crest]

I wasn’t fishing, I really can’t follow what you’re trying to say. Can you repeat what you mean?

[unreal sonnet]

everyone fishing each other in here

[charred crest]

Well yah but still

[last ledge]

gotta eat

[charred crest]

Have a good meal

[unreal sonnet]

🐀

[charred crest]

Only thing you can pray for are the moddera

Mods gonna make this game decent if anything

Thank you quiet angels

[unreal sonnet]

[charred crest]

[unreal sonnet]

why play ZZZ when gfl2

https://imgur.com/a/KoeF798

[last ledge]

is china still mad at gfl2

[unreal sonnet]

china always mad

there are summer skins

for gfl2

now

they bring old gfl1

skins

to the same characters

[versed trellis]

nah

thanks

im good

[unreal sonnet]

[charred crest]

Not big enough for him

🍈

[versed trellis]

i just need your mom

[charred crest]

My moms dead but its cool you’re into bones. Im glad you feel comfortable sharing that with us

[unreal sonnet]

💀

[charred crest]

Exactly he into those

[unreal sonnet]

necrophilia?

[charred crest]

Worst. Osteophilia

Necro implies there might still be flesh of sorts

[alpine hound]

The one near video store or in construction site

It's kinda annoying some quests are locked behind talking to x npc after x level at x time period

I talked to clara 5 times

The she gave me 2 quests

[charred crest]

If ZZZ added more maps with more content it could get decent. And get rid of the shitty time skip limitations.

[alpine hound]

What a annoying design

[loud orchid]

this challenge is ridiculous

[versed trellis]

[alpine hound]

How was that misinfo 💀

[loud orchid]

30 more seconds and it would be doable

[steady osprey]

[loud orchid]

2 min 30 is absurd

[unreal sonnet]

skill issue not even clear fast

[charred crest]

Its a challenge and a stupid challenge just so they can increase hours you on the game

[alpine hound]

Thats literally how the mechanics work

[loud orchid]

i mean it doesnt increase hours at all

[unreal sonnet]

not whale enough

[loud orchid]

i will just come back later at level 40 or 50 and clear it

but at level 30 i don't think it's doable

too many enemies and sections

[charred crest]

True, im talking about average person who plays this game might grind it out instead of doing it the smart way

[unreal sonnet]

swipe

[charred crest]

And there’s bound to be more time challenges in higher levels right

[unreal sonnet]

[loud orchid]

probably

[charred crest]

That’s clearly the goal of hoyo

[loud orchid]

i mean eventually we will get into disc grind

[unreal sonnet]

[loud orchid]

once we have OP gear this will all mean nothing

[unreal sonnet]

saying wuwave grindy and this game isn't different

[loud orchid]

but for now it's fun to try a little

[alpine hound]

Just level 40 units

[versed trellis]

when do i get gear ?

[loud orchid]

grind starts at interknot 30

[unreal sonnet]

I curious what they update for the game and content

will it be HSR experience

[versed trellis]

[unreal sonnet]

or Genshin

[charred crest]

They updated the store probably

[alpine hound]

Your not 30

Wtf

[charred crest]

Store will get updates if anything

[loud orchid]

I am 32

[versed trellis]

im not even 20

[unreal sonnet]

cash shop store or what type of store is that

[versed trellis]

im just 17

[alpine hound]

Then your struggling with level 40 units or the still 30

[loud orchid]

still 30

[alpine hound]

Oh

Just raise them

[loud orchid]

i'm not ascending until i finish grinding out skill levels

[charred crest]

The one that helps them make cash off of fans

[unreal sonnet]

h

[loud orchid]

once everyone skill lvl 5 i'll ascend

[unreal sonnet]

real money

?

[charred crest]

May you all have an easy leveling experience

And get all your rolls

[nimble steppe]

wait untill u see shiyu floor 7+

[loud orchid]

yeah lol

[nimble steppe]

i managed to barely get srank at floor 6

im not trying again until i level a bit more

my units are 30 as well but i have skills maxed like crazy

im going for 40 next

[loud orchid]

i think this game will have a great endgame

later on

[loud orchid]

hopefully they don't power creep it like honkai

[nimble steppe]

it does have pretty cool endgame

ive seen some bilibili vids

honestly the other mode is even more fun for me

its a better version of genshin's theatre

it does include tv shit but the amount of crazy fun buffs you get makes up for it

combining cards into omega buffs is fun af

[unreal sonnet]

they would bro

[nimble steppe]

bruh

[unreal sonnet]

that is unavoidable

[charred crest]

They will

They have to

[unreal sonnet]

happen to every games

yeah

to sell

imaigne make a game have 50 millions download and not milking them

[charred crest]

Exactly

[unreal sonnet]

I curious about their tactic of making games. Because I feel like they speed run with milking peoples money to make more games. ZZZ could have like combat is one then add the arcade fighting game like street fighter fighting game with mechanic. Then using TV as a channel for player to choose different type of rouge like game mode include vampire survival

pretty much a good casual game

too much money and effort for this quality then

[charred crest]

They’re collecting player data for now seeing what people do often and whst they dont

And they’ll reward doing the worse actions and milk the rest

Games by hoyo arent made for just fun

They probably identify patterns you might not know.

[unreal sonnet]

yah this is why ZZZ is too shallow, more than single player game and indie games

[unreal sonnet]

this could be

[charred crest]

Like how people might gamba more when its like night time in game or something

So they might give “deals” at certain hours for certain things

[unreal sonnet]

seem like I study in business book isn't enough when u have to curious

more about the pattern

and test

[unreal sonnet]

this is basic

[charred crest]

Well yeah but its simple enough for chat here to understand

[unreal sonnet]

using your character u pull able to play many different game mode in ZZZ world

and change the graphic effect

[charred crest]

Sure

[unreal sonnet]

would be amazing

80s and 90s

[charred crest]

[unreal sonnet]

now I understand why they say franchies always alive more than normal off brand companies

[loud orchid]

I feel like this is all just new game dooming

[unreal sonnet]

I expect mihoyo quality

which is why I play genshin and hsr

honkai impact is nice

[loud orchid]

it's a shame that they love powercreep so much

[unreal sonnet]

but I done when the final chapter

[loud orchid]

but otherwise they make good but simple games

[unreal sonnet]

gacha game

always powercreep

for saling

[charred crest]

Powercreep opens wallets

[unreal sonnet]

what are u smoking

[charred crest]

Simple as that

[loud orchid]

i expect this to be no different

[unreal sonnet]

[loud orchid]

but other than the potential for powercreep i don't see anything inherently wrong with this game

it's just an arcade beat em up game

and not a terrible one

[charred crest]

Nah i just expected more fighting mechanics

[unreal sonnet]

I mean more game modes

[charred crest]

Well that too

[unreal sonnet]

for 110 gbs total from unzip

and download

I don't care much about combat

in zzz seem find

[charred crest]

Its like they are min maxing to see how little they have to give to make as much income as they can

[unreal sonnet]

but no more than 1 game mode with TV

and arcade

style

indie game done better

[worldly jungle]

was kinda obvious that zzz gonna be not as big / good as genshin or hsr

[unreal sonnet]

I saying this because I love zzz character but I feel with bitterness

[worldly jungle]

cause its kinda small project compared to those

[unreal sonnet]

they advertise a lot showing combat and sf6 devs roundtable

only problem

[worldly jungle]

maybe they playing game that start its scuffed and later thay improve it but i would not bet on that

[unreal sonnet]

yah

they hop on next project

[charred crest]

True true

[worldly jungle]

like maybe they gonna completely rework TV

later

[unreal sonnet]

I won't say that

[worldly jungle]

but who cares for later it should be interesting from start

[versed trellis]

whats happening

[unreal sonnet]

[unreal sonnet]

skip?

[versed trellis]

story

[unreal sonnet]

I just disappoint about their game

bitterness

I waiting for this game out

very long time

😭 my hope got ruined

[worldly jungle]

because if they improve it later nobody gonna start playing it mid way genshin and hsr were amazing games at start

[unreal sonnet]

so they try to keep people

in genshin and hsr

?

[worldly jungle]

yes

thats possible

[unreal sonnet]

reasonable tactic

no joke

[worldly jungle]

also when natlan comes

tons of ppl return to genshin

[unreal sonnet]

this is like the scale

balance out

population

[loud orchid]

i mean this game started with parries as the main mechanic

[unreal sonnet]

playing their games

[loud orchid]

hopefully that means future mechanics gonna be action oriented

i think it can only get better

[nimble steppe]

people are really underestimating how many people zzz will retain lol

[unreal sonnet]

another way to monopoly

[nimble steppe]

but w.e

[unreal sonnet]

gacha market

[nimble steppe]

hsr had the same doomposting on launch

[loud orchid]

new game dooming feels really strong

[worldly jungle]

i think they always wanted zzz be their small baby i dont know it was one thing they were missing heated combat because genshin isnt super action combat hsr is turn based and zzz super break combat but its just isnt as in depth like previous games

[nimble steppe]

same shit as hsr bro

1:1 same discussion

[unreal sonnet]

genshin is about exploration

[nimble steppe]

"turn based game will never be successful"

[unreal sonnet]

like

[nimble steppe]

"dissapointing launch"

[unreal sonnet]

zelda

[nimble steppe]

just schizo

[worldly jungle]

i know

[unreal sonnet]

so fit for the thing to sell

[loud orchid]

maybe my standards just getting lower

[nimble steppe]

how much have you played the game

[loud orchid]

but this game isn't disappointing me at all

[unreal sonnet]

HSR turn base game fit in the bill

[nimble steppe]

[worldly jungle]

zzz ? or genshin

[nimble steppe]

insane that everyone gives their opinion on depth when they did 2 story quests

zzz

[worldly jungle]

not much

[nimble steppe]

you talk as if you know what the depth is in the game

[unreal sonnet]

seem so I don;t say hsr turn base will be bad

[loud orchid]

i just don't expect extremely in depth systems from hoyoverse, they make games for everyone to be able to play so they don't close themselves out of any market

[unreal sonnet]

only say ZZZ just too shllow

[charred crest]

[unreal sonnet]

shallow

[nimble steppe]

this is also true

[loud orchid]

it's less shallow than i expected it to be

which is a nice surprise in itself

[worldly jungle]

there is not much outside of combat

[nimble steppe]

at the end of the day you need casuals or the game dies, no exceptions

[nimble steppe]

i mean thats kinda what it needs anyway

[unreal sonnet]

he doesn't play many games so don't know much

[worldly jungle]

who

[unreal sonnet]

kretes

[nimble steppe]

there's not much to hsr besides combat either

[unreal sonnet]

HSR and genshin and honkai impact

have different depth

[nimble steppe]

now that ive seen the 2nd city in zzz it's basically as open world as hsr

[unreal sonnet]

depend on the game genre

and focuss

[nimble steppe]

what is the depth in genshin

[worldly jungle]

no hsr have actually a lot char developments and really good told story

well china story wasnt very good

but penacony was great

[nimble steppe]

zzz's story is pretty good as well and it's barely at the start

penacony is recent isnt it

[unreal sonnet]

genshin is a open world they don't say it will be focuss on combat as much as

[nimble steppe]

hsr didn't have the most insane story in 1.0 either

no game had

genshin's and wuwa's were just allright as well

[unreal sonnet]

HSR boss in 1.0 first start

is nicer

and music is good

[worldly jungle]

yes

[nimble steppe]

same here

[unreal sonnet]

Honkai impact

quality

IP

[nimble steppe]

also that's purely subjective

this game has plenty honkei reffrences lol

[unreal sonnet]

no

[worldly jungle]

its just small project compared to those i dont know its nice little game to have fun i would not expect from it much but who knows maybe they put later more effort into it

[nimble steppe]

i dont see how its any smaller than hsr

[unreal sonnet]

if u want to say honkai is about quality

[nimble steppe]

genuinely

[unreal sonnet]

invest

[charred crest]

It is what is guys. Thats it

[nimble steppe]

hsr had nothing extra in 1.0

[charred crest]

[unreal sonnet]

well I curious what zzz update is

if they make it better

I will play

content

[charred crest]

Stream for us

[loud orchid]

zzz has some qol that i hope the other hoyo games get too

[unreal sonnet]

I play wuthering wave for combat because I expect kuro about their field

[loud orchid]

like hollow zero (same as spiral abyss or sim universe) doesn't cost energy and it rewards points that can give u pulls

[unreal sonnet]

and they did good on character quality

[loud orchid]

and material shops in one place that only cost zenny

[nimble steppe]

shiyu defense is more like abyss

[worldly jungle]

its just zzz doesnt seem that spectacular i dont know how to explain it there are no epic moments its more like funny chill game no drama very little enviroment

[nimble steppe]

ye mat shop is pretty cool

[unreal sonnet]

funny thing they though abyss is good

[nimble steppe]

you're legit describing 1.0 hsr

[loud orchid]

yeah i guess shiyu has the same structure

[worldly jungle]

lmaO

[unreal sonnet]

wuthering wave copy tht shit

[loud orchid]

the new mode in genshin is like hollow zero

[worldly jungle]

u really gonna defend this game to the grave

[loud orchid]

it already has some of those qol changes

[nimble steppe]

i mean

it's genuinely true

[unreal sonnet]

the thearter people say it shit

[nimble steppe]

you're comparing a game in 2.0 to one in 1.0