What is the reason I can't do it?

[quartz patrol]

Why pagefile and files for hybernation can't be moved to another sector . If the shrinking of the drive is logical operation so why the data about these 2 files are sticked to the sector on the disk (sector as physical section) . As GPT says

Or I understand sections only as portions on disk maybe they have more properties,can you explain?

[snow urchin]

logical drive structure: refers to how the Operating system or OS organize your disk in a way that makes sense for the system to store and retrieve data (basically partitions, files system and directories)

Physical Disk Structure: refers to the actually disk Hardware layout (disk is divided into sectore which are small units where data is written and read.

The "PageFile (pagefile.sys) is virtual memory, it acts as a emergency RAM when your Physical RAM is fully used, it sotres parts of processes that aren't in use and it needs to be accessible by the system so that the RAM can easily be switched to Virtual RAM.

now for the hibernation file or "hiberfil.sys", it purpose is to store the entire content of your RAM upon entering PC hibernation, once you re-enter your computer the RAM goes back to the the prevous state.

when you shrink a partition, you are reducing the amount of logical space allocated to that partition.

you cannot move the pagefile or the hiberfil.sys because they are tied or fixed to a physical sector on your disk for performance, if you were to be able to move them it would degrade your sys performance by a ton, they are locked for stability.

in simpler term>

Logical partitions are parts of the disk that the OS threats as "drive" where your folders are. And physical Sectors are fixed size chunks of data on the disk itself.

And you can't move them because they are fixed

[quartz patrol]

sectores are units as tiny sections on the drive's surface yeah?

and why the possibility to move these 2 files would degrade perfomance?

[magic verge]

If you disable hibernation and pagefile, I think windows will remove those files so you can shrink the partition freely. If not, use acronis instead of the built in disk management

[quartz patrol]

Why can't they stick off some sections

[magic verge]

A partition is defined by a starting sector and a size. If your c partition starts at sector 1000 and is 1,000,000,000 sectors long, you cant say sectors 540,000,000 - 600,000,000 are a part of the d partition

[quartz patrol]

you cant say sectors 540,000,000 - 600,000,000 are a part of the d partition
Huh? You mean I can't create partition inside another or what? Can you describe the shrinking of partition ,naming sectors and these things

[magic verge]

Right. You can't have a partition be inside of another partition, or have a partition split up across multiple blocks of sectors

So you can't make c smaller and just say that the pagefile is in some sector that's not actually in c

[quartz patrol]

is one partition continuous sectors . Like they are next to each other logically and physically

[magic verge]

Yes

[quartz patrol]

or wait

[quartz patrol]

why can't pagefile be moved in another sector

which would be in our partition

[magic verge]

It can, just windows doesn't like to move it for some reason. You need to use another partitioning tool like acronis

[snow urchin]

Just one thing before moving the pagefile tho, you should do it on HDDs, since the benefits will outweigh the risks on a HDD rather than in a SSD because it's kinda useless to move the pagefile if you are on a SSD, if you are on a HDD, you can move it to an SSD for faster read and write speed, there are some risks while moving the pagefile but it should be fine.

[snow urchin]

It is a possibility, most of the time it's safe to move it to an SSD for better performance, but if done wrong it can cause crashes and stuff