#New prot warrior need a little help with dps

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dreamy igloo
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just for a bit more info im finding myself overcapping on stacks of sheild slam and rage alot everything i read says shield slam is top prio aswell as use your rage im trying to revenge as much as possible just feels like if i spam it i over cap and protentionaly waste shield slam procs

quasi tusk
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So that's a large part of your problem

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Use Ignore Pain to avoid overcapping on rage since it's off the GCD

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You're also... uh.... not casting SB

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Okay, so I'm not going to do a whole deep dive here.

TL;DR - You're playing the entire spec wrong. I don't mean that as an insult, I just want to be blunt about where you're at. You fundamentally do not understand how the spec is played. I will give you a general breakdown but you need to go to wowhead and read the entire thing at this point.

1. For mitigation AND damage purposes, you want Shield Block up at ALL times.

2. Shield Slam is your #1 priority cast 99% of the time.

3. When SS is on CD you press Thunder Blast or Thunder Clap

4. When SS/TC/TB are ALL on CD, you press Revenge (Or execute if they're in execute range)

5. Use IP to prevent overcapping rage. This is off the GCD so you can hit it between abilities. Your goal is to press this any time you are at 70+ rage and are about to cast an ability that generates rage.

6. If, and ONLY if, you have 2 charges of Thunder Blast, you press Thunder Blast OVER Shield Slam. This is because Shield Slam has a chance to proc a charge of TB and you don't want to waste those by proccing when you're full charges

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Very impressive parses given how incorrect your rotation is. You get that fixed and you should be a monster lol

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Also, to note. This rotation does not matter whether you're in AoE or ST. Same exact rotation

dreamy igloo
quasi tusk
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If you have new logs or more questions, feel free to ping me and ask again!

dreamy igloo
quasi tusk
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This is better but you're still not following the above priority well. Not pressing IP enough. In general not pressing buttons enough. And SB falling off a lot

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This is your breakdown for Fractillus, which was one of your better fights

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This is mine

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past glacier
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Like Storm said, not casting your IP enough to burn rage is really hurting you

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this is my recent frac kill, I spent all of my rage

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this is yours

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you wasted nearly 20% of it

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so despite my kill being a full minute shorter, I had more outburst procs, which caused my avg thunder blast and shield slam damage to be almost 50% higher than yours

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Once you really focus on rage economy and get that down, you will see large improvements in your dps.

I know it was listed above but I am going to try to simplify it a little here

1 - If shield block is not up, hit shield block
2 - If you have 2 charges of thunder blast, hit thunder blast
3 - if shield slam is available, hit shield slam
4 - if you can't press shield slam and thunderblast isn't procced, press thunderclap

this is your core rotation - it consists of 3 main buttons - shield block, shield slam, and thunderclap/blast

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if for any reason shield slam and thunderblast/clap are not able to be pressed, you press execute if the target is in execute range, you press revenge if they arent

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while all of this is going on - when you hit 70 rage for any reason, press ignore pain

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ignore pain exists independently of all of your other skills - it can be pressed at the same time as them because its not on the global

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so for example you have 75 rage and shield slam is up, you would press shield slam and ignore pain, at the same time

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because of how the tier set works, what this looks like functionally is you will hit shield slam, then you will hit thunderclap, that will proc another shield slam many times, so you hit shield slam again, which procs thunderblast. you hit the thunderblast which procs burst of power, so now you have 3 shield slams in a row you can send, you press 1 of those and you get 2 thunderblast procs, so you press thunderblast once to make sure it doesnt overcap and then go back to shield slamming

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the tier set creates a feedback loop which basically keeps us rotating between shieldslam and thunderblast frequently

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I'd recommend practicing this on the dummies to try to get the fluidity of it down, because that muscle memory is what is going to really raise your dps

cunning aurora
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I was curious, are you in a specific gearset or something? The crit/vers balance seems weird 🤔

dreamy igloo
dreamy igloo
# past glacier Once you really focus on rage economy and get that down, you will see large impr...

ok just a few questions on the breakdown sorry if they seem dumb

why not use both charges of thunderblast? most the time (probs doing it wrong) i dont have 2 or once ive used the SS procs i use the last one and have 0 procs so just want to know the nuance of that one.

i think i get the most of the other main stuff you have there just the IP stuff from what i saw (again probs wrong) but it says to use it if actively tanking its the same for SB so i was only using it for mit when i was actively tanking. is this wrong?

i just want to say a big thank you for all the help fam its really great and gives me things to work on so biggg ty.
coming from Brewmaster this is a very diffrent spec and playstyle so getting my head around it all is tbh a bit but will get there 🙂

cunning aurora
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As the key level goes up, the vers further and further outweighs the crit for survivability

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Those stats are for m+ specifically though, I have no clue for raid 🤣

dreamy igloo
cunning aurora
past glacier
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Trying to not over cap either is the goal

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Using two in a row is not the end of the world and not even a dps loss assuming you’re not over capping