#Bloodthirst Priority in Slayer Raid Build?

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I saw a recommendation to use Bloodthirst at 3-4 stacks of Bloodcraze but I kind of have this strong feeling that it is useless in full gear, as set bonus gives Raging Blow higher value.

Did you test it? Is there any way to find out for certain if it's worth it to Bloodthirst at 4 stacks of Bloodcraze or only use it as a filler?

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i dont think there is a reason to do that the only reason i see for BT with slayer in m+ is is to get overwhelming stacks started with a reap proc but i rly dont see the point in using BT even at 100% crit rate

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faint surge
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np :)

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# faint surge np :)

do you maybe know if there is a tool to find out 100%? i trust you but for the future possible questions like this

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yea the apl

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let me pull it up rly quick

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actions.slayer+=/execute,if=buff.ashen_juggernaut.up&buff.ashen_juggernaut.remains<=gcd
actions.slayer+=/execute,if=buff.sudden_death.remains<2&!variable.execute_phase
actions.slayer+=/whirlwind,if=active_enemies>=2&talent.meat_cleaver&buff.meat_cleaver.stack=0
actions.slayer+=/rampage,if=buff.enrage.remains<gcd
actions.slayer+=/execute,if=buff.sudden_death.stack=2&buff.enrage.up
actions.slayer+=/execute,if=debuff.marked_for_execution.stack>1&buff.enrage.up
actions.slayer+=/raging_blow,if=buff.brutal_finish.up&buff.slaughtering_strikes.stack<5&(!debuff.champions_might.up|debuff.champions_might.up&debuff.champions_might.remains>gcd)
actions.slayer+=/rampage,if=rage>115
actions.slayer+=/execute,if=variable.execute_phase&debuff.marked_for_execution.up&buff.enrage.up&active_enemies=1
actions.slayer+=/bloodthirst,if=target.health.pct<35&talent.vicious_contempt&buff.brutal_finish.up&buff.enrage.up&crit_pct_current>=85&active_enemies=1|(!set_bonus.tww3_4pc&active_enemies>4)
actions.slayer+=/raging_blow,if=buff.opportunist.up
actions.slayer+=/bloodthirst,if=target.health.pct<35&talent.vicious_contempt&crit_pct_current>=70
actions.slayer+=/raging_blow,if=action.raging_blow.charges=2
actions.slayer+=/raging_blow
actions.slayer+=/rampage
actions.slayer+=/execute,if=buff.sudden_death.up
actions.slayer+=/bloodthirst

thats the apl but i removed the burst CD shit and RA stuff

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noooow if we look at this here:

actions.slayer+=/bloodthirst,if=target.health.pct<35&talent.vicious_contempt&buff.brutal_finish.up&buff.enrage.up&crit_pct_current>=85&active_enemies=1|(!set_bonus.tww3_4pc&active_enemies>4)

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this means the following:

  • we press BT iof the target is below 35% hp and we are talented into VC AND got BF up AND are enraged AND our current crit rate is 85% (thats 4 stacks of BC, in the old apl it was makred as 4 stacks of BC but depending on your gear 4 stacks of BC might not be 85+% crit rate thats why it was rewriten into 85% instat of a fixed stack amount) AND we are fighting 1 mob
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    if we do not have the current 4p (which we do) we press it at +5 targets
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and current salyer build isnt talanted into VC

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also the next BT condition:

actions.slayer+=/bloodthirst,if=target.health.pct<35&talent.vicious_contempt&crit_pct_current>=70

also is skipped bc we are again, not talanted into VC

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the reason why we pressed BT last season was bc we giga buffed it with VC and getting 100% crit rate and also picking up Fierce Fallowthrough (hero talent) which we dont do anymore bc just stacking up RB mods is more powerful this tier duo the tierset

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faint surge
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lexyan you are a gigachad, thank you for this thorough investigation x)

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faint surge
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than you ignore it

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i guess trinket matters

faint surge
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this means that we press it if we do not have 4p equipped and again, you do have 4p so you ignore this

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the moment you have 4p slayer you ignore BT no matter how many targets or how much %crit rate or how many BC stacks you have the ONLY reason i see to press BT is to fish for Overwhelming procs at the start of a pull so you can start spamming RBs to capitalize on the proc of overwhelm and proc more RB reaps which than proc more Overwhelm stacks BUT tahts the ONLY reason i would see to press BT

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aight yea than you are chilling

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faint surge
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yea alrdy got a 99 on soulbinder so good start

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faint surge
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i use the crit one although i can see it not being as good as it used to be bc we kinda ran it bc it stacked up the Crit% up faster to get 100% crit BTs last patch

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but i can see mastery being a good option aswell i would need to sim / check

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i will sim mine too

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my sim shows crit to be a better option

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yea crit seams to be better for me as well

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