#I am doing absolutely piss damage as Arms in M+, what should I improve?

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lime totem
weak cypress
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you're already doing solid so i prob cant add much but its genenrally accepted to do cleave > ms > op in aoe and also to warbreaker before ravager

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MS gets you crazy colossal might stacks compared to overpower and ravager auto consumes the overpower stacks that you farmed during it

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so the overpwoer value doesnt even go into cleaves

lime totem
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@weak cypress thanks for the response. What makes you think I am aready doing solid? Did you check rotation or just overall damage? its hard to tell where my gaps are. I definitely think my opener could use some work. Sometimes I press warbreaker before sweeping and other setup buttons for instance.

weak cypress
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as for the wrong opening sequence being pressed, thats human. It's up to practice, but you can mess up practiced openers. It's more important that you know what you should be doing than beating yourself up over your muscle memory failing you in a moment of stress.

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And I mainly check the cast timeline, where I see some things like your overpowers that potentially get consumed by an unhinged proc'd mortal strike instead of your cleave

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you were fine here but im just saying that it can happen ykwim

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im not sure if you track your unhinged procs with a weakaura, cuz most simply don't, but that can be very detrimental to your gameplay

lime totem
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I dont think I track unhinged procs but I do track the overpower stacks and try and consume w/ cleave in aoe

weak cypress
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I mean i get that, trying to put overpower stacks into cleave is good - it's just that everytime you prio overpower over cleave, your demolish gets delayed

lime totem
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So its just cleave on cd every time in aoe?

weak cypress
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as i said initially, it's generally accepted to cleave > ms > op as a prio list

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in aoe

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or rather at 3+ targets

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(yes including sweeping strikes in case you were going to ask like 80% of people do)

lime totem
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Yeah I know the prio at 3+

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Okay so Idk if my play is like glaringly bad then idk im still new to spec

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My ST is atrocious too

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I was prot before so my gear is super crit / haste heavy and not to mention im 678 far from bis with a reverb radio equipped. Maybe it is largely a gear diff

weak cypress
lime totem
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Okay thanks for the help