M+ Failed 12 Logs, Timed 11's

[south canopy]

I've been attempting to time 12's for a week now, and they always just barely fail with like 10 seconds over. Is there anything I can do personally that will help this? Any mistakes or errors I have? I have a failed 12 Rookery, and 12 ToP I'm going to post here, and a timed 11 PSF and 11 Workshop from the same session that I pushed my key to 12 from
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/PyZvmHdGjpL1q3X4?fight=4&type=summary
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/PyZvmHdGjpL1q3X4?fight=1&type=summary
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/LkKRY8zT3gfcwNbt?fight=3&type=summary
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/PyZvmHdGjpL1q3X4?fight=3&type=summary

@hidden compass can you take a look at this and help me when you get a chance?

[hidden compass]

Give me ~45 mins to an hour and I'll get to it

[south canopy]

Thanks man! No rush if your busy

[hidden compass]

I'll keep the advice specifically tailored to things that'll help time those keys, since it'll let you focus down on some more niche things. Your play as a whole is relatively fine, barring random issues such as getting clapped in that first pull of Workshop (I wager it's from either getting hit in the back or, what seems to be more likely, melees getting synced from an AOE stop and then them all slapping you at once)

Specifically, the main thing likely costing you timing keys are the large numbers of deaths in each of these keys. There's some that just flat-out you can do anything about without just actually playing multiple accounts, like the Pala who just stood in the first lieutenant's AOE circle in Priory and died, but there are a non-zero amount of deaths from interruptible casts, like void bolts in Rookery. While you're generally carrying the interrupt counts in each of these dungeons, you can actually eke out even more. When shield charge is coming off CD, you can actually leverage it as another stop option as well as damage/SB uptime/etc. So you can actually sometimes help catch casts that would kill party mates by being willing to adjust SC targets on the fly like that. I actually personally have SC on a mouseover macro so I can just hover over a casting nameplate and catch them.

You'll also want to have a bit more awareness of controlling packs as a whole; you'll want to learn to be wary of things like melees being synced and how to deal with that (generally stopping a single mob or stutter stepping so they get into melee range at different times from you) or knowing which casts come at the same time or can't (For example, Paladins in Priory will always chain Sacred Tolls back to back, so the more you have, the more bursts of AOE damage the party takes, or whether bolt spamming mobs can target the same person at the same time). The things that will absolutely kill people are large bursts of damage they can't do anything about number wise, so you'll want to avoid the situations as much as possible. Like I mentioned above, enemies all having their melees synced will generally murder you, so don't let that happen or you die and it's likely a wipe, or hold interrupts to prevent multiple casts from hitting the same person at the same time.

And finally, the advice that you just really don't want to hear

find better groups/pugs/network to find people to play with.

The DPS you're playing with from what I can see aren't pulling their weight damage wise half the time, which costs you a good chunk of time through a run. The deaths are really the biggest issue, but anything you can do helps.

oh, and on a second look, it looks like you're criminally underutilizing storm bolt, as well

[south canopy]

How much damage should a dps have to fully pull their weight?

[hidden compass]

Depends per dungeon, but they should probably be able to get like, minimum, 2.5m overalls on any dungo from what I can spitball memory

It could and should probably be higher, but

[south canopy]

The first pull of workshop was a combination of sync'd autos, and then me getting knocked up by a buzz saw so they all hit my back at once

Looking at the intterupts, I didn't realize logs showed stops from cc

Didn't realize I wasn't using stormbolt that much, I'll make sure to use it more. Do you have any suggestions on forming better pug groups?

[hidden compass]

Honestly, with the culture of WoW,

you kinda don't

Forming actual good pug groups with quality players would require you to peek into their logs and see what their actually doing, which takes time

time which players hate spending

So you can't actually fully vet people well enough

Your better bet would be to go to some of the group finding Discords and find people to play with

@queen fulcrum I believe this man could direct you towards a few of those, in fact