vanilla-discussion

[gritty skiff]

what build are you guys leveling as? fury or arms?

[distant saffron]

arms

[nocturne widget]

@misty bolt pvt servers got hp/dmg/armor values wrong by a margin on a lot of elites

afaik

[distant saffron]

it doesnt affect bis lists

[fresh tendon]

Getting ready for tomorrow

[distant saffron]

fuck

I need to be up at 6am tomorrow

to get food

[woven torrent]

Same. Shop opens at 7am. Can do some shopping before work

[distant saffron]

or I could leave my bags at hospital and get food on the way home 🤔

[woven torrent]

Hospital?

Work?

[distant saffron]

nah been with family member most of past week

so have 12 hours to do all my prep

[fresh tendon]

I mean Walmart is open 24 hours

[distant saffron]

I dont live in the US

[solar matrix]

Ur loss lmao

[distant saffron]

:pepega:

wish I did tbh

would make this all a lot easier

[woven torrent]

Ye. Imagine having shops that were open all day

[crystal pike]

4 dedicated players looking for warrior tank for 48 hour marathon session after release, pm for info.

[sour dagger]

48 hour marathon ? I wish I was like 21 ,I did this sort of thing back then

now I will get to play for like 5 hours at best in weekdays

[blissful zenith]

i've managed to setup a way to play at work

[sour dagger]

Nice, I wish I could do that as well

[woven torrent]

I stocked up on food. Ready for launch

[crimson jay]

food stocked up. addons updated. 2nd account subbed. I'm ready. let's do this

[woven torrent]

Oh ye

I need to download updated addons

[crimson jay]

yeah, there were some updated the last hours/day

depending on what you're using

[next merlin]

i cant find my classic wow on the twitch client, i need the old way for addons?

[woven torrent]

Use curseforge @next merlin

[sour dagger]

how does that work? Will I have to manually dl and update add ons?

I know this is classic but it isnt 2005 ffs

[wraith spire]

#nochanges

reminder the game hasn't actually launched yet, some 3rd party hand holding solution will likely be developed into a stable release shortly after launch.

until then, copy paste into your addons folder, its not hard

[crimson jay]

not using that cancerous twitch app anyway

I prefer willitclassic.com as it links you to the relevant addon sites and githubs

[woven torrent]

You need to update them manually

So download for each update

But as this is classic, and there wont be much changes each patch and shit, I doubt you have to update them often.

[crimson jay]

that too. once we're some weeks in and devs have eradicated last bugs there shouldn't be much to update

[sour dagger]

@crimson jay Why not use twitch? I have done manual installation and updating be4,I just want to avoid it if possible

[woven torrent]

It's a shit app

[crimson jay]

^

[sour dagger]

Care to give any reasons? Haven't had any problems so far

[woven torrent]

It's such a cluttered app

[round gate]

it's still much quicker and easier than doing things manually

[gleaming karma]

F curse app

[blissful zenith]

F

[crimson jay]

F

[woven torrent]

F

[sour dagger]

F

[atomic pendant]

F

[fresh tendon]

The twitch app works just fine

[jade fog]

^

[dire roost]

Best spec to level as?

[misty bolt]

Arms

[dire roost]

Ty

[main hemlock]

[woven torrent]

You say that as pserver guilds are good

All the eu realms are full except the rp ones

And the new ones

[round gate]

or you're cheap

and don't take it seriously enough

[woven torrent]

Or a poor 3rd worlder

[round gate]

most people on private servers play there because it's free

no other reason

[woven torrent]

Which is why most of the pserver babies cried when we got classic

Because people will leave them

[distant saffron]

🤔

[woven torrent]

If you want to speak 20 different languages sure

[blissful zenith]

was thinking of play pala,druid , mage or rogue

and i finally decided i'll just stick to warr lol

[misty bolt]

Yikes pvp servers

Infested with all language other than english and childish shitty memes

[blissful zenith]

which server are you playing on morth

[misty bolt]

ZT

[blissful zenith]

nice is it a pve one

[misty bolt]

Nah rppvp best combo

[blissful zenith]

ah lol

true though

[misty bolt]

Everyone speaks english and not many spergs around

[cunning steppe]

@misty bolt any other differences to a normal pvp server?

[blissful zenith]

its just a pvp server with RP communities in it probably ?

[misty bolt]

There are rpers around sometimes and you cant have stupid names

[woven torrent]

More mature community too

[misty bolt]

Like “xxdikcheezxx”

[woven torrent]

You would get blacklisted fast if you kept using twitch emotes too

[misty bolt]

Only rp I will be doing tho is spitting on dead alliance

[woven torrent]

Same

Will you have the same name in game?

[misty bolt]

Ofc

[cunning steppe]

I see

[verbal wasp]

Just updated the document now to highlight both Prot and DPS in classic - leveling up to pre-raid. I'll add more as time goes on but hopefully it'll shed some light on things for now to make your lives easier. It's what i'm using for myself so happy to share, any feedback is welcome.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQb1YFK1Q-eszGEOj6kqXgJh5ukQH0np7rRpTu8rC13cGmSofkDPmywl6f6WUYrq81bITA1MvFUqYxZ/pubhtml#

[noble tinsel]

Guys, when going engineering for pvp, should one also go blacksmithing second for the crafted gear it provides or mining? And when should one go Iron Will as an Orc? After finishing Mortal Strike?

[round gate]

I don't believe any professions other than engineering provide bonuses you can't simply buy

but I could be wrong

[woven torrent]

Having mining could help leviate costs tho

And can do dm jump runs

[round gate]

most common recommendation is yeah, take a gathering prof

[woven torrent]

If they are possible in classic

[round gate]

usually herbing

[rapid dagger]

Herbing/skinning

[noble tinsel]

Isn't it better to gather with a gatherer alt? Is the blacksmithing stuff always boe (purchasable)?

[round gate]

BC adds some really good BoP stuff, but for classic it doesn't offer much iirc

[noble tinsel]

ye idc for bc

[round gate]

tbh I'm not big on gathering at all

I'll probably be engi/alch

[noble tinsel]

why would herbing/skinning be even better than mining?

[twin drum]

Double intake of sellable goods

[round gate]

skinners get some cool shit in classic that's somewhat important, ore isn't a big deal

as far as efficiency goes though, mining/herbing definitely has an advantage because you can do both at once

it's really not a huge deal overall

[noble tinsel]

but then why not go a druid alt?

[round gate]

because you're not going to level two characters to 60 anytime soon

well, maybe you will, I don't know you

the average person will only have one character

@fallen flax wrong chat my dude

[fallen flax]

OH i read it as "class discussion": my bad

deleted

[noble tinsel]

What is the best guide out there atm (similar to the arms compendium back in Legion)?

[chilly turtle]

is there an updated outfitter addon?

[bright peak]

Personally, I enjoy having a gathering profession on my main that I can swap around and not care about losing a lot of patterns.

[misty bolt]

BS is pretty crap without the epic patterns

[upbeat stag]

Best guide is to read the tooltips 😄

[woven torrent]

Huh

He wasnt here long

[cedar yew]

so question

do warrior needs a gun or something?

[woven torrent]

Answer

[cedar yew]

in classic

[woven torrent]

Its a stat stick so ye

And you can pull with it

[cedar yew]

so every class can use guns?

[woven torrent]

No

Hunter rogue and warr can

[cedar yew]

ah

it doesnt use up offhand slots?

[woven torrent]

No

Its in its own slot

[cedar yew]

i see

[woven torrent]

Those 3 has ranged slot for guns bows and xbow

Mage lock and priest has wands

Shaman and druid have relics?

I cant remember their name

[cedar yew]

i guess its good so we wont get kited

as much

[woven torrent]

Nah

[main hemlock]

it doesn't really do anything

[woven torrent]

You will be kited

Ye

Its mostly a stat stick

[main hemlock]

just to keep a rogue in combat or so

finish a low hp guy

[cedar yew]

how do we stick to our target

without leaps

rip

lol

[eternal breach]

You charge, hamstring, kill. You only need 2 swings anyways

[ripe iris]

u got 2 charges, and other classes have les mobility

than retail

engineering items, move speed and free action potions

[woven torrent]

Frost shock kiting is gonna be fun fun fun

[cedar yew]

yeah but other classes can have those

engineering items too

[ripe iris]

true, free action potion is more effective on melee than casters tho

[cedar yew]

what does that do again?

[ripe iris]

who cares if u got free action as a mage if u need to stand to cast

[main hemlock]

you one shot them with MS before they kite you

ez

[ripe iris]

clears all roots and makes you immune to stun and movement imparing effects for 30 seconds

1 min cd

[cedar yew]

i see

[main hemlock]

that's all you need and a healer

[ripe iris]

looking at the text i dont know if it scales down as you level up

[main hemlock]

ez game

[ripe iris]

im guna be playing mage to relive my nostalgia but i probs will level a warrior second

[woven torrent]

I will grab a hunter alt for farming

[ripe iris]

is it weird that i cant wait to be able to farm again, in live blizz always nerfs grinding into the ground

[main hemlock]

raiding zaq tonight I can already feel the excitement

[ripe iris]

are you guys guna be taking engineering right away or level it once u hit cap

[woven torrent]

Gonna go mining skinning and go engi later

Need money first

[ripe iris]

might go enchanting just to DE all my tailoring stuff

i cant remember if u need a cetain enchanting level to de high lvl stuff

[woven torrent]

Hm

I cant remember

[distant slate]

Nah you can DE stuff whenever

[woven torrent]

@gleaming karma r8 my name pls

[modern river]

One more day.

[ripe iris]

would invite out of 10

6 hours, do i try sleep

[woven torrent]

Ye

At least get some hours in

[bright peak]

No, you don’t need a high enchantinglevel to de anything

If you have time, it’s not a bad option to save up your BOP gear for a bit and then DE it all before swapping back to whatever other gathering profession you had

[ripe iris]

i made sure to get a super ammount last night, i think i slept like 13 hours

but another 4 couldnt hurt ha

[woven torrent]

I will sleep when i get home, then make dinner so i have food through the night

[slender scarab]

guys help

for some reason there isnt an option for me to install classic and reserve a name

i have an active sub and evrything

idk what to doooo

[gleaming karma]

@woven torrent solid 9/10

[slender scarab]

@everyone pls heeelp

[woven torrent]

@slender scarab You don't have this option?

[slender scarab]

nope @woven torrent

[woven torrent]

Odd odd

[slender scarab]

i knooow

uggh

[knotty pivot]

I didnt either had to go download the bnet launcher again to force it to update

[slender scarab]

oooh okie i'll do that ty

[knotty pivot]

np

[slender scarab]

YESS IT WORKED

ty so much

[woven torrent]

Nice

[slender scarab]

even more hyped now

[muted geyser]

I still can't decide between Tauren and Troll for Main Tanking 😦

[noble tinsel]

troll is better

[slender scarab]

Play what calls out to you, my man.

It's a long journey.

[ocean remnant]

Hi im new to the server and haven't played for years do need more than a swingtimer like macros? i want to play tauren arms

[hollow iris]

Anyone have a recommendation for a guide/“cheat sheet” for leveling up? Icy veins seems to have a cool little slider think for picking talent points. I’m looking more for like a simple sheet that just hits the “highlights” like at this level u need to do this to get this weapon or something along the lines of that if it exists.

[cunning tartan]

https://www.wowisclassic.com/en/addons/addons-pack-starting/ - pack addons guys , HF / GL !

[crimson jay]

@muted geyser if min-maxing: Troll. if not: whatever

[misty bolt]

Undead warrior is calling to me

What do

[twin drum]

Play UD warrior

I got my OG vanilla UD warrior, embarrassing name redacted.

[slender scarab]

God I'm finally glad the clash of retail vs classic is finally over!

[ivory ibex]

Is there an optimal talent progression for levelling in melee cleave?

[slender scarab]

No more lfg chat gone berserk

[summer stratus]

I think I’m going Tauren war again like vanilla. Starting as fury though.

@ivory ibex there are some guides on wowhead for fury and arms. Although you can do things slightly different.

There are some cleave shenanigans but don’t really work well early on.

[slender scarab]

I'm not going back to the age of unacceptable classes/specs and unkillable rogues. Sadly.

[noble tinsel]

does somebody have a swing timer for classic?

[summer stratus]

Yeah they are out there

[noble tinsel]

i need a swing timer on wagaio

: What is the best classic warrior guide (like the arms compendium back in the day)?

[last saddle]

gnome warrior all the way

[glad finch]

is arms better for solo leveling a warrior and fury is better if you're in a group with a healer?

[summer stratus]

The 10% increased damage taken from zerker stance hurts. But you don’t need to stay in that stance either. Both set ups will require bandages and occasional eating.

Death wish is also a strong dps cd Which comes with a negative. Ss is great for cleave while having rage when you swap stances gives arms a bit of an edge but if solo you won’t be doing a ton of multi target pulls.

A lot of the crap we had that made wars awesome for lvling in vanilla was nerfed. So it won’t be the same as retail.

[distant saffron]

arms > fury

[placid cargo]

is arms better levleing and fury better for endgame (just pve)?

[scarlet rose]

Is there a list of skills you should and should not purchase while leveling?

[slender scarab]

yes

[faint raft]

and it looks kind of like this

[scarlet rose]

tyvm

[split monolith]

Does it matter if im an undead or orc for a warrior in classic?

[summer stratus]

It’s too bad fury doesn’t still have .5 sec slam and 250% increased damage on next attack after a kill.

[sharp crest]

Storm it depends on what you will focus on endgame

You cant go wrong with orc

[split monolith]

Mainly dungeons

I just dont like the look of orcs is all

[sharp crest]

for pve orc then troll/tauren

for pvp its orc/undead

orc is best tho

period

[misty bolt]

Axes arent bis weapons usually so its w/e in pve

[sharp crest]

for overall

i mean

they have great pve and pvp viability

[misty bolt]

Orc ofc has the most going for it

[split monolith]

Does it really matter though?

[sharp crest]

ehh not really

[misty bolt]

Not really

[split monolith]

Races play a lot more in classic than retail, right?

Okay

[sharp crest]

but they do matter much more

yes

[misty bolt]

Yeah they do but not enough to play something you hate looking at

[split monolith]

I mean

if I -do- raid and get tier 3

orcs look cool

But

[sharp crest]

the real question is why u hating on us green bros?

😛

[split monolith]

The bois are too bulky
the faces of the women look bad :c

[sharp crest]

orcs have always had sick shoulderpads

[split monolith]

I play a fem orc on retail

[sharp crest]

cool

i will be making an orc war myselg

male

but my alt is going to be an undead rogue

full pvp focus

[muted geyser]

is there any resource to show which abilities to level and which to leave at level 1?

[summer stratus]

Scroll up two inches

[muted geyser]

lul

thanks

[summer stratus]

In the wowhead lvling guide it’s discussed as well

[split monolith]

anyone got a link to the swing timer addon?

[misty bolt]

Damn look at twitch Classic section

Popping the fuck off

[verbal wasp]

@muted geyser
Pretty much everything you’ll need in one spot
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQb1YFK1Q-eszGEOj6kqXgJh5ukQH0np7rRpTu8rC13cGmSofkDPmywl6f6WUYrq81bITA1MvFUqYxZ/pubhtml?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app#

[split monolith]

ty

[woven torrent]

@misty bolt So we might get to full pop when the people get back from work. That's cool

[harsh orbit]

Everyone start logging on

Queues up

[ripe iris]

subscription site is dead, rip

[main hemlock]

everything ded soon

[muted geyser]

Troll over Tauren for tanking?

[distant saffron]

Yes

[north junco]

yoh wars, can gnomes do human warrior quests?

for def stance etc

[tender estuary]

wouldn't it be the same quest for every race?

[north junco]

well gnomes have 1 in dun morough, humans have 1 in elwynn

so i want to know if the gnomes can do the 1 in elywnn

[tender estuary]

oh right i guess you learn it early

[gilded crane]

They could in classic. So ya. I used to run to elyenn as a dwarf

[north junco]

dope

[gilded crane]

The elywnn-westfall-red ridge-darkshire Route is the way to go

[misty bolt]

Imagine waiting in que :F

[gleaming karma]

https://i.imgur.com/ACYyWA8.jpg stalagg gang

[main hemlock]

que isnt moving xd

[woven torrent]

Wow cojo

You almost went cojouwu

[gilded crane]

Get used to waiting...it’s classic wow

[main hemlock]

i played vanilla for 2 years and never waited this long

[misty bolt]

ZT ZUG ZUG

[gilded crane]

I don’t mean in queue I just mean in general

[woven torrent]

I always make this character

[bright peak]

Servers aren’t even up and seriously you didn’t have queues over an hour at times? Lucky you @main hemlock

[woven torrent]

Probably wont use it as I am on a RP server

[gleaming karma]

wtf

[bright peak]

?

[woven torrent]

I hope you guys all have fun with classic

I sure am gonna enjoy it

@misty bolt Hope we meet up 👍🏻

[faint raft]

So you're the one who took Samhyde from me

[woven torrent]

Kek

I wish I got Alexjones too

Guildie got it 😦

[misty bolt]

Lmao instant renames

On rp server

[woven torrent]

I wont even use them

[main hemlock]

@bright peak nope, its weird, played on Draenor EU

[spare oracle]

Is there a warrior classic "guide"?

[bright peak]

/shrug. 1-2 hour queues weren’t uncommon on my server. Though they did offer free transfers off twice so it might have been over populated

[spare oracle]

Like talents etc

[plush wadi]

wowhead has one

[main hemlock]

me being always logged in could have something to do with it

XD

[spare oracle]

Link?

[woven torrent]

6 MINUTES

SOON ™

[plush wadi]

https://classic.wowhead.com/guides/fury-warrior-dps-classic-wow

[spare oracle]

ty ❤

[slender scarab]

wooo

2 morem inutes

[gleaming karma]

ITS 4:01 BLIZZARD

pogpogpogpog

[wispy cape]

arms better for leveling right

[tame python]

warrior leveling is

not good

get used 2 it

[jade fog]

POG

[twin oar]

6k queue

[slate goblet]

Lucky you

I'm at 17k starting at 21

[twin oar]

I started at 12k

I think

[vital swan]

hey guys, I have 0 clue about classic atm, only that I'm going to be horde there, which race would you choose for prot warr?

[main hemlock]

orc

[twin oar]

prot?

Troll is better for prot

[vital swan]

peepo, is it troll then?:p

[summer stratus]

Tauren!!!

[vital swan]

REE

H A L P

[tame python]

tauren 😡

[atomic turret]

did some eu servers just go down?

[slate goblet]

Most did, I believe

[vital swan]

I'm going strong on Mirage

[round gate]

Tauren is for cool kids

[tender estuary]

World server down 😧

[placid cargo]

my eta on the q time was 40 mins so ileft for an hour and a half and now i only have 23 more mins to wait lets go

[tame python]

ur lucky u didn't get kicked out like everyone else

[ripe iris]

oh shi my q jumped from 2k to done

now to spend a hour deciding on hair

[tender estuary]

Does it matter that much? you'll be wearing a helmet most of the time anyway

[ripe iris]

oops im in wrong discord, im guan be playing mage

not as many full helms

[raven kiln]

World server down EU anyone ?

[tender estuary]

yep. shazzrah has been down for a while now

[raven kiln]

I have friends online on a different race who can play, but I have world server down. FeelsBadMan

[placid cargo]

anyone know why somtimes my q number goes up?

[twin oar]

Just got in

IT's packed

[woven surge]

58 min wait que

it just keeps going up

[ripe iris]

mine did that for a while

[solemn merlin]

you cant run retail and classic clients at same time right

[ripe iris]

someone earlier said no it leaves ur classic q

[solemn merlin]

yeah

k

[gritty skiff]

dwarf or human better?

[round gate]

human is way better

dwarf is fine for tanking/pvp/not being ugly

honestly the difference isn't so massive

[zealous elbow]

gnome for pvp

[gritty skiff]

my time just dropped down to 2 hours

[ripe iris]

soo did anyone find a way past world server down

or do i just haev to wait and keep trying

[copper pecan]

For world server down you'll have to keep trying to log in, worked for me

[cunning lotus]

some1 that knows if migrating is possible on vanilla servers?

[pulsar vault]

i cant decide between human or gnome warrior

[round gate]

why on earth would you ever consider gnome

pls stop

gnomes are for punting

[pulsar vault]

??????

lol

they say they are best for pvp

ill be doing a lot of pvp]

andpve

[round gate]

play dwarf for pvp

or just play human anyways because it's still great for pvp

[gritty skiff]

how big of a deal is the 5 more skill points for humans after you get max skill?

[soft gale]

pretty big.

[round gate]

3% hit and negates .5% dodge against raid bosses

does less against players but is still good

[gritty skiff]

well i plan on mostly raiding

[terse path]

for pve human is absolutely bis

no other choise

[round gate]

human is uncontested the best dps

dwarves make fine tanks and pvp warriors tho

[terse path]

even tanks should go human

more threat

[round gate]

yeah but sometimes you gotta make compromises and not play as literally the ugliest and most boring race in the game

imagine being a human in a fantasy game

gross

[gritty skiff]

i played a human in original vanilla lol

[harsh sphinx]

Anyone know how to turn on numeric values for everyone?

to see everyones health % and health?

[terse path]

u cant

only with an addon or something

[gritty skiff]

ya addon

[harsh sphinx]

Kk thanks, also... 😃

Thats pretty good right?

[terse path]

yes

[gritty skiff]

why can you use 2h sword?

cant

[harsh sphinx]

got weapon training for 2h mace and not 2h sword

but will get now

just finishing quest

[gritty skiff]

ah ok

[strange berry]

@gleaming karma what lvl u at

casual

[gleaming karma]

7

:)

[strange berry]

im lvl 8

[gleaming karma]

Spent 30minutes at zalazane

:)

[strange berry]

BITCH

dam

i was gonna go herod

that didnt last long

[gleaming karma]

im on stalagg

not much better

[strange berry]

u got in?

[gleaming karma]

i logged in 3hrs early brother

[strange berry]

dam ur smart

i just rolled on one of the new ones

kurinnaxx

been blasting since

[gleaming karma]

ye

dead server

[strange berry]

ok dude

[gleaming karma]

<the boys are back>

[strange berry]

the boys aint got a +1 str axe

like me

[gleaming karma]

xoes has

8attack power axe

ur gettin bodied

[strange berry]

wtf!

how

what lvl is this bitch

[gleaming karma]

idk like 9

he got ahead rly quick

[strange berry]

dam

[gritty skiff]

im still lvl 1..14k away

[placid cargo]

I have been in the q for over 5 hours

might just go to bed and playtomorrow

[edgy holly]

I've got better

for free

can I still easily tank dungeons when I take Arms talents for questing?

[gleaming karma]

You could tank any dungeon to 60 with arms talents

[tame python]

wait reck is a 30 min cd?

hows that work in a raid

do u just choose what bosses to reck on

[gleaming karma]

Pretty much

Your main cd in raid is deathwish

[summer stratus]

I tanked raids with arms talents.

You’ll find respecting to be costly and we played for the pvp. Raided for the gear. At least early on

[round gate]

reck on prog during execute phase

not during farm

or just be a scumbag and reck to parse 🙂

[tame python]

classic parse

pepega

[round gate]

high skill gameplay

[woven torrent]

@misty bolt What level did you get to?

[round gate]

probably harder than modern fury tbh

[woven torrent]

Are US realms still up?

[misty bolt]

@woven torrent 10

[woven torrent]

Nice

I am happy we managed to get into the same layer so fast lol

[misty bolt]

got a shitload of greens too

2H axe 1h+shield and pants lol

[woven torrent]

Nice

[misty bolt]

BFA luck

[woven torrent]

I have gotten a lot of greens from mining, but only equip I have is a chest

And I got an engineer schematic for chicken pet

[hushed isle]

world server down on eu?

[woven torrent]

Ye

[misty bolt]

Yea

[woven torrent]

Stuck on loading screen

[hushed isle]

x(

was hoping to get ahead of the masses and snatch a zalzane

probably just goig to skip it

[woven torrent]

I did

I skipped echo islands

I just grinded and skinned instead

And did some mining

[hushed isle]

honestly, it just doesnt seem worth it for a lot of the 'kill named mob' quests

[woven torrent]

Nah

Kill quests seems the most reliable

And gather 1 item

If it's more than 1, it's not worth it

[hushed isle]

im wondering which of the levelling zones are less popular

might be worth it to do them over popular ones

[ripe iris]

it hasnt seemed too overcrowded for me, tho i am 1 hour behind all the ppl who got in first

[hushed isle]

there are some bottlenecks

[ripe iris]

server reset for eu now back to world server down 😭

[hushed isle]

that scorpion in valley of trials

zalzane

[ripe iris]

im at that weird point in dun morogh where theres like no quests for me

[hushed isle]

the burning blade guy

[ripe iris]

lvl 9

[hushed isle]

when in doubt

beat the creeps

try find a good group of humanoids since they drop copper and cloth

[ripe iris]

ye im going for those trolls tho they dont seem to be dropping much

i think soon im guna be killing leper gnomes hopfully they drop more

[hushed isle]

that or something that drops a low tier material for crafting etc

[slender scarab]

yeah we should definitely go back to classic questing make it as impossible to progress without having a group.

[woven torrent]

I am so jealous of alliance

Has the best starting and leveling zone

Dwarf starter and Loch Modan

So comfy

[slender scarab]

yeah its too bad they dont exist anymore in retail

[woven torrent]

mm

[ripe iris]

ye i love the alliance lvl 10-40

dun morogh is nice but not a fan of the quests there

[obsidian rivet]

any idea when the eu servers are back up? i only see stuff about NA servers

[ripe iris]

no idea, last tim ei was getting world sedver down took me like 30-40 mins to get in

[woven torrent]

I assume it will be up in 25m @obsidian rivet

[ripe iris]

im really interested to see how fast i go from 30-60

cus last time theres where i really started to do bg's and spent months hardly leveling

[woven torrent]

I can't wait to do wpvp

@obsidian rivet It

up

[ripe iris]

im back in

on eu

[woven torrent]

same

[sour dagger]

Its gonna be a looong day at work

Good luck focusing

[tame python]

i been on this makrura quest for 30 min plzzzzzz

[slender scarab]

ahahahahahaha

i started the

thunderfury chain in trade chat

[sour dagger]

OMG YES!

Kreygasm

[slender scarab]

friend whispered me it

so i pujt it into trade

now its going forever

[sour dagger]

gg wp

Too bad we cant have Dirge or Warglaives of Azzinoth

BUT

We can spam ANAL

Anal [insert ability here]

[noble tinsel]

should i ever go for swords as orc?

and train bow etc.?

[sour dagger]

Well having a ranged weapon might come in handy for pulling

As for swords,I believe it is better to use Axes when you get the talents. Be4 that,you should go for higher wep damage

That's what I will do with swords as Human

[noble tinsel]

10 silver seems a bit excessive

[sour dagger]

10 silver
expensive
Gotta love Classic

[noble tinsel]

ye i also have millions on retail xd

i just sold the guns not worth i think

[sour dagger]

Ultimately you will have to learn everything

As for now you dont need many profs with ranged weps. Just one will do

Save money for ability levels

[dreamy cypress]

Whats the best weapon for the human lvl 10 warrior quest?

[round gate]

you are level ten my dude

you do not need to mix/max and overthink things

[barren beacon]

yeet

[sour dagger]

Yeah just grab a shovel and smash some murloc faces in Westfall or some centaur faces in Barrens

[faint raft]

Level 75 engineering boys 😩 👌

[blissful zenith]

wouldn't BS

be better ?

[sour dagger]

Ενγι ισ βισ φορ ΅αρριορ

Engi is bis for Warrior *

[charred otter]

is there a spec engi isn't bis for?

[sour dagger]

Dunno,really. I just looked for Warrior and Rogue, both need engi

The stuff engi gives a way too good to pass

It's going to be difficult to find veins

[blissful zenith]

ah okay cool

so what do i roll, engi / mining i guess

[charred otter]

mining nice to support the engi, but I don't think it matters. Most run a gathering spec there, imma run enchanting

[sour dagger]

I will skill mining and skinning , as soon as I hit 60 I will swap skinning for Engi

2 gathering proffs while lvling

?????

Profit

[gritty skiff]

why is engineering so good ?

[round gate]

no other profession offers meaningful bonuses you can't simply buy

it's not that engineering is good

it's more that every other profession is pointless

[gritty skiff]

what does it give you?

[round gate]

bombs mainly

but also quite a few other gadgets

[sour dagger]

Reflectors are really good

And the bombs are simply bis

damage and stun

And other proffs are not pointless ffs

Arcanite reaper is bis for ORc

[gritty skiff]

bombs for pve?

[agile elm]

More dmg

🙂

[sour dagger]

2019
PvE

but yes its more dps if you use bombs

[round gate]

arcanite reaper is definitely not bis

and more importantly you don't need to be a blacksmith to get one

[gritty skiff]

does blacksmith offer anything besides reaper?

[round gate]

blacksmiths do make the lionheart helm, which is fantastic and will actually be bis for quite a while

but again, you don't need to be a blacksmith to get that

you can just buy it

[gritty skiff]

true

been waiting in queue since 630

cst

4900 left

[round gate]

I fucking knew this would happen

I left home about two hours before servers went up, could've logged in, didn't

[gleaming karma]

Logged in 3hrs before release 😎

[round gate]

been in queue since they came up because I'm a retard

big rip

[gritty skiff]

i could have been in queue as soon as possible but my internet decided to go down till an hour after servers came up

[round gate]

Does anyone know if 5pc wrath is going to be worth obtaining for dps?

I assume not since most of the set is pretty bad on a piece by piece basis

but I want a reason to wear wrath 😦

[distant saffron]

its not worth it in any circumstance

[sour dagger]

I will get Truesilver champion from a friend as soon as possible

[halcyon arrow]

Enjoy wearing it while standing on the mailbox though

[round gate]

nah I won't be getting it

I don't plan on tanking literally anything

ever

the other 6 dps warriors can tank four horsemen

[gleaming karma]

https://i.imgur.com/AcBW2nW.png gotem

😎

raid boss down

[sour dagger]

pfff

[blissful zenith]

[gleaming karma]

https://i.imgur.com/H8wJ7Y2.jpg

ok

sick game

[noble tinsel]

i just got dcd

[gritty skiff]

is it better to lvl with 1handers or a 2hander?

[woven torrent]

Cojo, what level did you get to when you could play?

[gleaming karma]

12 and a half

Spent a solid 4 hours doing 2 quests :)

[woven torrent]

Nice

[main hemlock]

queued for 1.5 hours before I had to go sleep

[misty bolt]

I cant wait to tank and sponge all the warr loot hehehe

[sour dagger]

Amen @misty bolt

[half sonnet]

hey what talents do i take is there a guide for warrior

classic warrior

does any one know what spec is crazier dps arms or fury

[sour dagger]

There are like 3782 guides online

[tidal blaze]

How is everyone finding classic?

[green kelp]

Overrated

[blissful zenith]

more fun than i though it would be tbh

[sour dagger]

did you guys manage to play ?

[sage sparrow]

It was traumatic but I got to lvl 6

Got a green 2 hander but can’t use axes... and they say classic is good

[sour dagger]

go train it ffs

[twin drum]

Gonna go learn staves in preperation for the WC quest

[umbral tide]

How is everyone finding it, wont be able to have a go till tonight

[twin drum]

Launch in EU was a fucking meme

[orchid vine]

why cant i use charge in combat

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[umbral tide]

How lol @twin drum

[twin drum]

My shard had 600 people in it (orc/troll starter)

[steel lotus]

90 min in queue so far, still nr. 5500 with another estimated 90m wait time

[twin drum]

the lag was insane and getting any quests done was a case of standing in one spot and hoping you tag a mob

Basically good fun

only for like 2 hours though

[umbral tide]

Gotta love blizzard

[twin drum]

It opened up after that

By the time I got to Razor hill I was still competing but way less

I was playing in a group of 4

so

[umbral tide]

U enjoying it though?

[twin drum]

killed like 70 of each mob to complete "collect X" quests

Yeah, it's like being 11 again

[umbral tide]

Loool

[twin drum]

You need to level with a healer.

legit

[umbral tide]

Yh ive been told

[twin drum]

You can't take on mobs 3 levels higher than you without dying

but if there's 4 of you they get clapped

[umbral tide]

Doesnt a group give less xp

[twin drum]

Idk

We weren't that far behind when I went to bed

maybe 1-2 levels, but we fucked around alot

[umbral tide]

Haha nice

[twin drum]

I'd guess, like levelling in all new expacs, two players is probs best

get a shammy or priest to level with :p

[umbral tide]

Aye

[leaden holly]

Enjoying it here,

Should I be using 1h+shield or 2H while leveling?

[sour dagger]

2h whenever you need to kill something or 1h and shield while tanking

[wet viper]

I learned 2H Sword, what else should I learn? Staves, Dagger, Crossbow too or?

just staves maybe?

[sage sparrow]

Learn whatever drops. Technically you may need all skills at some stage

[sour dagger]

This^

well you dont reallly need to learn everyhting

ranged for example you only need one

[proper pilot]

what is the warrior go to talent tree for levelling up? I'm going to try and tank dungeons while levelling, does that mean I have to level up as prot?

[sour dagger]

for pulling

Nope, just lvl MS and use sword and board to tank

[woven torrent]

Yay, gonna do WC now.

Time to get my good staff.

[proper pilot]

@sour dagger ok, thanks.

[sour dagger]

There are many guides out there

[proper pilot]

Next question: Is there are good levelling build out there that you know of?

[sour dagger]

check a couple

Most people say take the crit talents form fury and then MS ,then at lvl 30 respec for SS or at 40 for MS

[proper pilot]

ok thanks, I'll do that

can't go horribly wrong

[round gate]

idk about that

imp rend is really good

so is anger management

[proper pilot]

dat so?

[round gate]

I wouldn't put the first five points in fury

[proper pilot]

please give you recommendations

[round gate]

just commit to arms entirely

[proper pilot]

sounds very tempting

[round gate]

imp charge very good while leveling

imp clap great in dungos

arms is just very good all around

[proper pilot]

so push to deep wounds with first points?

[round gate]

absolutely imo

if you wanted to absolutely minmax the talent build I could see going like

anger management -> cruelty -> deep wounds/impale

since wounds and impale won't do a ton with base crit rate

but then you have to respect into SS like 5 levels after you finish doing that so

probably not worth

[proper pilot]

what is anger management

[round gate]

your rage decays slower out of combat

and you generate extra rage in combat

[proper pilot]

yea but its not a talent

[round gate]

extremely important

[proper pilot]

at least first tier

[round gate]

it's third

11th point in arms

[proper pilot]

right

is it Thunderbluff where I can respec points?

[round gate]

anywhere with a warrior trainer

which is every major city and a couple outposts iirc

[proper pilot]

ok, thanks

[gritty skiff]

dual wield or 2hander?

[sour dagger]

2 hander

[idle mountain]

2h for early levels, 2h dual for higher?

[main hemlock]

no 2h dual

dual wield is bad for leveling

Dw fury is a raid spec

and okay in pvp with proper gear, just no MS

[idle mountain]

ah ty

[agile elm]

Check skarm on youtube prty interesting videos for prot warr 😃

And alot of tips

[stable quiver]

Where should we be downloading addons for Classic?

[agile elm]

Twitch

Change client in ap to Classic

Easy as it goes

[stable quiver]

Easy peasy

[proper pilot]

or C:\Program Files (x86)\World of Warcraft_classic_\Interface\AddOns

[zenith roost]

So the best way for prot is to lvl as arm ?

Or is there a point in the levling when you can go prot for dungeons ?

[tender estuary]

dungeons are apperantly very good exp

but i also hear people saying you don't really need to play prot to tank the early levels

[wind vapor]

You can arms tank till 60 np

[zenith roost]

Aw I see, you still have def stance and taunt

So maybe you can even tank as arms during leveling

[wind vapor]

Not maybe but for sure

No point being prot rly

[woven moss]

is arms viable for raiding

[misty bolt]

No

[wraith aurora]

We had an arms warrior MTing well into BWL back in the day, but that was also back in the day and everyone was much dumber than they are now

[crimson jay]

that was probably before weapon normalization and talent rework because early Vanilla Prot was garbage

[slender scarab]

5123 queue on razorgore eu

[tender estuary]

my server had 13k queue at 11am

[honest sand]

Where do I buy sunder armor rank 1? Only see rank 2 on trainers?

[crimson jay]

lvl 10 warrior quest

[honest sand]

cheers

[lofty linden]

So for warriors does endgame consist of: dungeon tanking, being dedicated enough to MT/OT raids, fury dps, or arms pvp?

[idle shale]

really you can classic pvp as either spec, but yeah that sums it up

[slender herald]

only 8 hour queue time, nice

[fallen flax]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379615914619961348/615917999047704602/inowari.jpg

[gleaming karma]

we got fukn owned

[woven torrent]

👍🏻

[gleaming karma]

ur huge

[woven torrent]

Only for you 😉

[misty bolt]

Damn 18 already tf

No sleep ?

[round gate]

how does deflection stack up against imp heroic strike for leveling?

probs pretty minor either way

[bright karma]

heroic strike is shit for leveling

check out the leveling FAQ on fight club

[last saddle]

so every EU server but the new has que?

lol

[tender estuary]

at least the starter zones are starting to get a bit cleared out

[slender scarab]

WARRIOR BROS. HOW DO I DO WEAPON SWAP MACROS

sorry for caps tired

[misty bolt]

Lmao how is HS shit

It fucking

[woven torrent]

And ye

No sleep

[delicate flint]

U have no permissions to use discord, wowhead, a lot of addons in vanila

To play this

It is not authentic, it is a fake nostalgia

[tame python]

who cares

ppl enjoy different things lmao

[ripe iris]

thottbot only

and 260p vids

[bright peak]

I’m glad I don’t need permission from other people to play however and whatever way I want 🙂

[dawn jewel]

Hi folks. Running a tauren warrior at level 12 and using hamstring. I'm trying to do the hamstring kiting for the swing timer method, but it doesn't seem to work anymore. Is it because I'm a huge tauren?

[vale coyote]

Hello folks. Anybody know the macro for "start auto" with abilitys

[summer stratus]

Should be easier for Tauren long reach.

[ripe iris]

@vale coyote i cant remember exactly now but it should be just like /attack i think

try /startattack if that doesnt work

[main hemlock]

startattack does work for me

[ripe iris]

ideal ill get rid of that last part of the messege

[glacial estuary]

What lvl are most people here?

[misty bolt]

12

[faint raft]

12

[bright karma]

It's very bad DPR compared to Rend and Sunder, Morthrang

[twin oar]

They should let us play on retail if we are on queue

This kills retail entirely lmao

[bright karma]

Some very smart people ran simulations / analysis over leveling scenarios with different skills/talents and HS is pretty bad

[twin oar]

Heroic Strike?

[glacial estuary]

damn I got home late from work spent hours in queue got to lvl 9 and went to sleep

[twin oar]

What do you mean it's bad?

[ripe iris]

i was level 10 after about 5 hours played, the last 2 levels took much longer running from ironforge and back.

[left fable]

Inefficient

[glacial estuary]

Woke up and saw Alk is lvl 27 I was like wtf curious what others were at

[ripe iris]

also waiting for the leper gnomes to slowly spawn while 20 ppl were trying to kill it

is alk solo questing? ive seen a few ppl in the 20''s who are streaming but they are doing dungeons

[bright karma]

Check out the leveling FAQ at fight club, it has all the info

[glacial estuary]

Nah hes grouped but not doing dungos

[twin oar]

How do I get into that discord?

oh it's in the pins

nvm

Okay i'm reading some of this stuff

it's itneresting

[summer stratus]

Lvl 1 ftw

Going to take a longer lunch break to go home and log in in hopes I can play later today

I’m pretty salty about not being able to play legion while in classic queue.

[twin oar]

Legion?

Should we tell him guys?

[twin drum]

He’s thinking wistfully of better times, cut him some slack.

[glacial estuary]

I member legion

what a good xpac

[tender estuary]

lol i wonder how it will take me to learn that charge can't be used in combat

[summer stratus]

Haha. Yeah sad truth.

[idle shale]

Legion could have been close to perfect if the legendary system hadn’t been such insane ass

It had other launch problems but they did a good job making most of it way better pretty quick except for legendaries

[twin drum]

I mean it was good once broken shore launched right? There were a bunch of repeatable legendary rewarding things to do that didn’t take long. I think I got my last legendaries on both character from legionfall hand ins

[glacial estuary]

The core of legion was good, wheras BFA threw away the core and said here have a neck you need to grind and 3 pieces of azerite to use the whole xpac

go have "fun"

[spiral moth]

Anyone else find it absurd that the RNG in this game can allow a goddamn vulture to parry you twice in a row?

[zinc shadow]

Parry/Parry/Dodge/resist.

[ripe iris]

i dont know how crit works but i was killed by a boar cus it randomly hit really hard didnt even say crit in the combat log, was hitting like 13 12 13 15 then suddenly hit me for 38

[spiral moth]

Ya, I remember warrior in PVP being really fun. but PVP leveling warrior is like being castrated with a brick

[slender scarab]

is there a way to stay online if i wanna go to sleep? dont want to wait for queue again tomorrow..

[placid minnow]

Meth

No need for sleep

[misty bolt]

How is sunder better than hs if its defensive stance lul

[placid minnow]

I think some people have made macros to move their characters every so often

[ripe iris]

i was thinking of making a keyboard macro but thats to predictable, im guna go oldschool and do the fan trick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFLD6XiTs-k

[main hemlock]

epic

[wind vapor]

@ripe iris boars have self buff that makes their next hit do 100% more dmg

When it does that thing like sprint its that

[ripe iris]

ty, wasnt sure if it was a crit or somthing else

[cloud wadi]

What weapon skills do undead warriors start in vanilla?

[rocky condor]

anyone knows a macro for warrior shield bash + equip shield?

[cloud wadi]

/equipslot 17 <shield>
/cast Shield Bash

That should work I think

[eager meadow]

im trying prote warrior, wich talents should upgrade first?

[distant saffron]

Dont level as prot :notlikethis

[eager meadow]

im leveling with a party

not alone

and we going to do rfc

is hould upgrade fury talents?

[distant saffron]

That means you should even more level as arms

[eager meadow]

parry first?

[distant saffron]

prot gives you fuck all at early tier

• solo/duo Arms 1-39 : https://www.bobo-talents.com/?c=warrior&t=qCsyszsAsBqfrqrryKyLqerCqlryrzqisYslsxsHrArBqmp-rIqjrDrZr0r1
• solo/duo Arms 1-60 : https://www.bobo-talents.com/?c=warrior&t=qfrqrryKyLqerCqlryrzqisYslsxsHrArBqmp-rIqjrDrZr0r1r2qhrwIhrJqkqCsyszsAsBqDsmsnsospqFyPyQyRqAqzs-tatbtc
• dungeons Arms 1-35 : https://bobo-talents.aerobaticapp.com/?c=warrior&t=qfrqrryKyLqgrurvqlryqisYrzrArBqmp-rIrJrKqjqCsyszsAsB
• dungeons Arms 36-60 : https://bobo-talents.aerobaticapp.com/?c=warrior&t=qfrqrryKyLqlryrzrArBqisYqmslsxp-rIrJrKrLqjqCsyszsAsBrDrZr0r1r2sHqerCyMqkqEs8s9s_s.qAsCsDsEsFqzs-tatbtc

[eager meadow]

ty

[distant saffron]

just check the levelling FAQ in fight club

answers all your questions

[sharp spear]

Heya! What’s the go with weapons, i.e. damage vs. attack speed? What do I want to look for if I have a shield in one hand? And in two handers?

I.e. 1 hand mace has 2.3speed and 12-23 dmg but sword has 2.1 speed and 11-21dmg?

[distant saffron]

look at (top end + bottom end) / 2

[sharp spear]

As in damage?

One is 5 and the other is 5.5

[distant saffron]

then pick the one with the higher average damage

[sharp spear]

Ah okay. Thanks

[misty bolt]

what swing timer addons you using guys ,

[zealous elbow]

server restart

reee

[misty bolt]

its crazy how much better and complex the classic warrior is

compared to the spam 4 button garbage on retail

[ruby kiln]

weirdchamp

[heady dust]

really? i was afraid classic warrior would feel repetitive

[misty bolt]

stance dancing is so fucking fun

[heady dust]

what spec?

[boreal matrix]

whats the most balanced tanking spec for warrios to level with

[misty bolt]

arms

just get 1h with shield

[distant saffron]

[leaden rain]

you realize the classic rotation is 4 buttons and even more simplistic than retail right

[boreal matrix]

https://classic.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/Bfz9zECEAAPzCCQ so basically this?

[misty bolt]

in raids maybe

[leaden rain]

like you use a million macros, but the rotation is 4 buttons

lol

[misty bolt]

pvp and outside you use like 10 buttons lol

[distant saffron]

@boreal matrix

[misty bolt]

and this is classic

I care about raids like 10%

[gleaming karma]

Not getting 2h wep spec

[distant saffron]

like theres 2 specs linked in pings

idk how else to say it

[misty bolt]

you should get axe/ swords spec or w/e

oh nvm half prot... ooof

[distant saffron]

yee thats a huge yikes

dont fucking go prot

until 5 mins before first raid

[misty bolt]

arms is completely fine

TM and AM are so good for tank

more rage = more sunders

[grim pawn]

Unless you're dedicated insurance grinding to 60 I wouldn't touch prot

[solar matrix]

hour 28

im getting a little tired

[glacial estuary]

in terms of class design or depth whatever you wanna say a dps rotation isnt "all" that matters when people say like holy shit X is much better

[misty bolt]

@solar matrix damn what lvl you at ?

[solar matrix]

30

[misty bolt]

oooooof

[solar matrix]

been fucking around a solid amount

[misty bolt]

you going for world 1st or what lol

[cedar yew]

is there

a leveling guide?

[tidal bloom]

world first is already lost basically

there is a hunter level 37 or smth

already

[cedar yew]

thats the highest level rn?

[tidal bloom]

I dont know of anyone higher

[gleaming karma]

pretty sure hes the highest by far

[misty bolt]

thats insane

[woven torrent]

Gosh darn hunters

Too fast at leveling

[gleaming karma]

its basically a dead private server for him rn

[tame python]

ppl were saying he was a botter but idk

[gleaming karma]

hes been streaming

[woven torrent]

Ye lol

[tame python]

ya i saw

[gleaming karma]

he has a custom path and WA

[woven torrent]

He has half the world to himself

It's fucking insane

[tame python]

ppl were still saying it in the stream, idk how botting works

[woven torrent]

Is it joanna?

Or wtf his name was

[tame python]

some hunter idk

[woven torrent]

Woo

Finally got a 10 slot bag

[distant saffron]

journey is not a bot lol

[woven torrent]

Oh

We have a journey wannabe in our guild then

[distant saffron]

this is literally all he does