#ui-addons-manager
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pog
why is shattering throw a big icon on the left
It's not like people are gonna use it constantly
Yah I wasn't sure what to do with it
Originally that's where rampage was
I'm open to suggestions
I'm thinking about moving Execute to where Shattering Throw is
and condense the Aura
or put something in place of execute
Thoughts?
Yes I think Rampage would fit there better
Rage bar turns yellow when Rampage is usable
No need to track Rampage now as it's not on a cooldown
Trying to keep talents away from the core region
I see
That center is dedicated for baseline abilities for the class/spec
Still trying to figure how to do covenant ability
Too bad it doesnt have baseline spell ID like heart ability does
Wait
You can put covenant ability on the left side
instead of Shattering Throw
Unless it's Condemn then it's a problem lmao
Think she is thinking how ot set i tup because if you playing condemn, it doesnt really need new button
But if you pick any other, you need to fit it in
Why does the reck icon outside of it's cd look like it's on the GCD?
np
@broken steeple I'm a dude btw
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
So what do you guys think. Swap ST and Execute? or Remove the middle icon and put Execute on the left
And you should put either BS and Dragon Roar
I know it's a talent but it's a rotational ability and people are gonna want to see it's CD
was just mentioned its baseline UI
Yeah I know
I do have BS/DR. They're not shown atm since I was testing Meat Cleaver
PTR
Ok
Still don't have beta
F no beta team
Do you have it?
I never got BFA beta
@broken steeple @hidden mica Actually if I remove the center icon. I can unsplit SR and Pummel
SR = Spell Reflect
or should I keep them together like that?
I'm considering removing swing timers too
Most of them dont really know how to work with them on fury
I honestly like them being together
but might be prefrence
@gusty musk 2 suggestions
make enrage icon and put it on place of shat trow
make reck icon for duration and put it on top of rec cd/reasy
that way ull get rid of those bars
but i dont play fury
can help alot on Arms tho
eh, idk I find those bars extremely helpful and versatile.
That's just me
and I think the people that use my WA like it too
I find that having a bar stack, i.e. Enrage/Recklessness gives me an idea how much time I left for certain rotation window. i.e. CSHB
idk if others feel the same way
With Arms, ToM+CS+Bladestorm
@gusty musk arms is diferent
I think an icon for Enrage would be nice
and my cs and tom WAs are next to eachother
That would be ideal for mythic+
Not sure about raids
since you're only going to use execute for 20% of the fight
my point is that rage bar and other bars are hard to follow
but thats not valid point for fury cos fury rage isnt that important
@red comet Did you get the Charge/Intervene WA I made for you
IP one would be meaningless for dps specs tho
Thinking it is how I'll track covenant abilities
@gusty musk u can also see some fury streamers
idk any
can get some ideas
Deattu, Anda, Danwarr stream for sure
Herudra stream, idk if he play fury
u can Ask Archim to link hes Ui here tho
Max stream sometimes
@stuck onyx
will play fury on prog if they aint fix arms
Thinking it is how I'll track covenant abilities
@gusty musk How are you getting those white numbers? Did you make it so that only crits are yellow?
Sup
deattu streams?
u click hes name on discord, click the twitch bam
@stuck onyx did u get 3080
AOC
noice
Top Left: BS/DR
Bottom Left: Onslaught
Top Right: SB
Bottom Right: Covenant Ability (Excluding Venthyr)
Grey bar on top of the abilities is Shattering Throw
Rampage usable within ragebar?
Yah, Rampage goes from Red to Yellow with Particle effects when it's usable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDAoX-8w6Fc
This discord is making me wanna get back on that content creation horse. Based on my conversation here the other day, I felt like making a video to talk about designing UI elements from an anatomical/physiological perspective. might be best to watch at 1.5x speed or faster cause I think i talk slow. Just like was mentioned yesterday, it's ultimately all personal preference. and mods, if this should be put in the promotion tab instead of here, I apologize.
Just because I do things in my own weird way does not mean they are better than the way you do things. the primary fun of building your UI is figuring out what you like, and what works best for you.
I know just enough about anatomy, physiology and information processing to g...
and @gusty musk my OCD says put the rage text in the middle rather than on left side.
ehhh
but that's just me
So...
those corner bars
Should I make it disappear if the spell is not known
So for example, this is what it looks like.
I'd say keep them visible, because symmetry
AA?
rest is good
alternatively, have them be default disapeared, then only show the bar while the effect is active
auto atack aka swing timer
grey bar?
Yep
ok
put rage top not bottom
also regardless rage number
mine is on right side, cos it seen better when bar is empty
like that design a lot titania, very clean.
@craggy monolith Thanks. I tried to do what you suggested. It was just too tight imo
@stoic slate i dont see the reason behind doubling bars and WAs
like u can mouseover bottom bars
in regards to what? my personal UI?
I personally like it better on top, though it might be worth considering putting a small gap between the rage bar and the buff bar so that it is more noticeably separate from those. alignment wise it'd probably be best to raise the buff bar up so that the bottom of it lines up with the SB/DR stuff you put above exec/recks
(assuming you implement such a gap)
Yah only issue with that is that everyone's monitor will see it differently due to the way pixels work
i think as Fury u dont even need a rage number
only bar
pepega
@stoic slate yes
ur Ui
u have 2x huge spaces filled with same abilities
u dont need bottom one visible
@red comet I'm going to go with Rage Bar on top
but leaving rage text but people can easily disable that
So, TL;DR: you're right. slightly longer justification is that most of the stuff that is tracked in duplicate is so that I can see the CDs while out of combat. it's a super minor thing, but I like knowing such things, and dont want that big block showing in the middle out of combat. everything else down there is minor stuff that I'd want to see in combat, but rarely need to look at.
@gusty musk i make ur intervane/charhe WA to never load - till prepatch ๐
@stoic slate then u just make WAs for important thing to be visible 100% and rest only incombat
@red comet Tonight I'll work on Arms
also anyone interested how I did the corners
but by converting them to weakauras rather than simply using bartender as i currently do, it makes customizing/modifying things take more time/effort. this is mostly cause I am bad at WA, and draging/dropping things onto an action bar is ezpz

one of these days I will stop being lazy and get around to optimizing that area of my UI, but for now it works
those 11 abilities are ElvUi bars - aka bartender
k, but do you have those displayed out of combat? if i recall from looking at your stream yesterday i think you do
yeah, I personally don't like having my central UI stuff shown out of combat for aesthetic reasons, but I also don't like not seeing certain CD's out of combat, so that ugly bottom action bar block is my lazy attempt to have my cake and eat it too.
they are shown - but not centered but bottom
so whats the point
eather way u have them or not
the thing is - In Combat - ur screen is full of to much things
personal preference, but I am definitely one of those people who errs on the side of having more information rather than less. That's part of why I'm big on optimizing cognitive processing efficiency. my logic is that if I can be X% more efficient with each piece of information I process, i can then process X% more information in that time.
I'm not about to claim that my approach is "right" or "better". i just think: 1) it's just a different approach than how I see a lot of people go about setting up UI's, 2) there is some validity (the amount of validity is open to opinion) to it, and 3) I think that considering the properties of how humans process visual stimuli is something that could benefit other people when setting up their UI.
I like dat gap @gusty musk
o/ i have beta access and could test this if you wanted
i'll be at work for a bit, but feel free to holler at me with the snippet. Venthyr (condemn 2stronk)
i can just make a new character and go align with a new covenant, takes like 30min if i remember right
on the beta you just make a new toon and can set it to max level with really crap gear
during leveling yes
you basically level through each of the zones and you'l get each of the abilities while leveling, then at the end you marry one of them
If you do let me know when you're back
can do ๐ i'll be off work in about 5 hours
I need to do something for Necrolord. Which requires an id
Yah. I'll be on
but I'd like to test all of them if possible
im wondering if there will be a Spell name you can use instead, sort of like how Heart Essence worked as a variable to mean "whatever the heck your current active essence is"
Nah.
shakes fist
I'll ask in WA discord
@bright moth Not sure if it is, we can test but I'm using specific ids anyways.
for color coding
but for necrolord I just need to know the banner buff id
but that doesn't matter anyways
can do, based on wowhead it appears the Conqueror's Banner is 324143, but i can double check it tonight
@bright moth Good enough for me
gets ejected
now newbies - u can see why I allways recomend Titania WAs pacs
i also bringed him back to the game - dunno is that good
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lmao
@daring trench do u have a prot pac for ur Paladin
need it for a friend
all Of U - exept me and Titania
@broken steeple
i dont member info if its not important
Figured
Did I miss anything?
Yes
Nice
looks good
Thanks guys
I like it
@broken steeple It's the wings on the side of the aura
@daring trench do u have a prot pac for ur Paladin
@red comet
Yup
BUT, one part of it will become irrelevant once SL prepatch comes out
but i have main bars configured
which will stay
Hmm fair enough
and
@daring trench my friend need it for SL - so i can w8 for new one
will DM u in 2 weeks
oke
will work on it for sure
no problem
@red comet it'll look like this
but account that holy power and mana are from ElvUI
and i decided to flip them for myself
no problem
3 in my case
remake BrM from scratch, remake prot pala, make BDK
and adjust prot warri
and also make holy pala one
for sure
@hidden mica @broken steeple @red comet Do you think the corners are too small?
i only help abit with fury
aesthetical they look fine
i like it
cant say how usefull they are cos i dont play the spec and have no clue
I dig them, maybe some sort of emphasis when they come off cooldown might be nice? although not sure how much you can do considering how much of them is shown
concider bs and ravager
It's already there
in SL rav didnt replace BS
mhm
It replaces it for me on PTR
@gusty musk maybe bit bigger yea
@red comet What do you think, swing timer should be next to rage bar?
ravager does replace bladestorm
Well, this is for me ๐ Not for you.
i play arms only since NH
Were you fury before or different class
Todu. But im suprised you playing arms
Started playing Arms because I wanted to play both Fury and Arms in BFA
played arms and fury in MoP and WoD
in legion i played fury for half of NH only
Yah for sure
Still long playing arms player
was arms in EN, ToS ABT
mhm
FR != For Real
and gloves
Yes
So here's what I got from rearrangement
u dont need exe
uhhm why not?
put SS midle
Would be useful for Condemn?
cos arms Exe has no CD
yes
I know myself
because if I don't have an Aura tell me Execute is up
I'll go an entire phase without executing LOL
put it on hud
wheere u put CS uptime
I just use plater
I use TidyPlates
SKS is on the side atm
I'm not putting Talents in the baseline zone
The right sides are utility/defensives
SS replace cleave
or vise versa
but remove exe
put SS midle
allways put CS(WB) next to Ravager(BS)
use of bs/rav is conected with use of CS/WB - till now
so it was good to track them both
and i found easier if they are next to each other
@gusty musk
Oh shit
it replace SS
I did not know that
Well, It automatically replaces it so I don't need to do that
mhm
Something tells me I should wait until 9.1 to update this WA cuz it'll happen
it will not hurt if u got it ready
@hidden mica @broken steeple @red comet Do you think the corners are too small?
@gusty musk yeah, not really a fan of the corner CDs but might just be me
I'll play around with em. Might make adjustments later
@gusty musk look at mine to get an idea
whats where
am off now for 7-8 hours cos...
am EU
1:00 am here
np
1:00 am here
@red comet @gusty musk feels Finland man
since it is only Greece, Russia, Finland and eastern parts of Ukraine and Belarus that utilize GMT+3 in Europe
iirc
@hidden mica @broken steeple @red comet
Now do I make one for prot? ๐คทโโ๏ธ
@bright moth You free to test?
Getting dinner figured out then Iโll be on ๐ currently 100F with no AC so Iโm trying to avoid turning the oven on haha. Iโll test here in about an hour ๐
@gusty musk oh yea that looks smooth as hell
Now do I make one for prot? ๐คทโโ๏ธ
@gusty musk
You better be serious about it
Otherwise, it will be unusable without passion brought into its creation ๐
And without considering all the things you need to track
@gusty musk only thing i disslike is bar hud
it gonna cover my char if i have 6-7 things rollin
@red comet valid concern but that HUD is customizable.
As opposed to tick marks?
@red comet ^
Also I did some testing with help from a few friends. A few of them suggested to make the corner cool down bigger and add a state when it's off cool down. I agree with them on this.
my rage bar is like that
at and under 30 is dark blue
save it for MS
50 light blue
can cast slam or WW
above is red
Where is the setting to get rolling damage showing because When I am hitting targets nothing is coming up near them
try /console floatingCombatTextCombatDamage 1
@gusty musk btw, talking of prot. I think your base for arms will be good enough for prot
you will just need to make an additional group underneath that grey bar(I assume it is an AA timer) for all the things that didn't make it into the main part
@gusty musk Yea that is definitely more visible now but right corner looks thicker than left one, just a small thing
@broken steeple It's the same size o.o
dunno looks thicker
probably not the same border
Same borders.
left size /right size
but yah I can see it too
wtf
@broken steeple You got me looking real close to the screen now
and I didn't count pixels by looking at my screen xD
I zoomed in with paint.net
this will work for me eternally
will need to redo few things come pre-patch, but it'll be fine
@broken steeple proof
i believed you right after first statement dw lol
But yea
that perspective is throwing me off
Dont mind it personally
I had to confirm for myself too
see
I legit thought it was off too
i wasnt only one
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must be cause of execute icon
gives different depth for picture
still cool af
@red comet How's this? Changed the rage bar color.
thats good
now make the ragebar abit thicker
so it match the high at those left - righ strange corner thingies wich i cant use cos i find them hard to track
@gusty musk
@daring trench i think ur prot can loose some of the base icons
@red comet Those bars only appear if the talents are selected
still ragebar is too tiny for my taste - and rage is important for Arms
thats better
oooooo
i can prolly just wait for SL release since Blizz are cucklords and haven't given me beta even though i've been subbed on my current acct since TBC 
yeah its pretty random, i think the main ways to increase your odds of getting into beta is having CE fairly early and getting into previous betas
or u can early cancel ur subsciption - and point as reason that u aint have Beta - and BFA is boring shit
ya. i'm gonna level an alt or two while i wait for SL. but mostly i just don't touch my PC
F... both ๐ญ i want to say just Arms, but the future is so bleak...
@void anchor
Arms: https://wago.io/HkMINja7X
Fury: https://wago.io/BJqUUcobz
Please follow the instructions if you want to make it look like mine
damn I made a feature request to the WA devs and they shot me down
lol why
they must implement, that you can do groups into groups
if they do that, then dreams actually do come true
Figured it out
Required a bit more geometry
Now you guys are going to see some really cool shit soon
too complicated, that bar supposed to show cooldown yes?
I just put timers on them but i get your point of making it look fancy
You misunderstood. The white bar is for talent abilities like Rend/Siegebreaker. That blue icon could be Execute with a cd timer
this is still trying to make it fancy though
Can't go raiding scuffed
That image is not a great example
One sec
@vagrant cobalt
The top left corner is Skullsplitter.
When Skullsplitter goes on cooldown, the duration of the cooldown will start
you mean that red box behind mortal strike?
and what is that green bar
and that tiny gray one below
Red box behind Mortal Strike is Rend
Green Bar is Swing Timer
Grey bar below is Shattering Throw
that's a waste of space in my opinion
Where is the swing timer? 
that's a waste of space in my opinion
@vagrant cobalt
And also waste of possible simplification
Perfection in simplicity is highly applicable to WAs and ui building in general
You guys are entitled to your own opinion.
Why would you see that as waste of space
I mean yes, its just me i like wa's simple, and this is overcomplicated with fancy looking
@red comet Asked for a Swing Timer
Idk, looks very clean to me, well set positions so you can focus on whats important
But that is also my view
What is that green bar below rage?
swing timer
and why do you track that one
ait that one sorted
just play bm hunter
Yea no
and faceroll on keyboard LULW
Todu stop adressing yourself in 3rd person already
am 4rd person allready
but am agreed on those fancy cds
prefer a second row icons
and a icon hud
like Kartoon and Waifu
Nope
Waifu the Weakaurer
nope
@vagrant cobalt Titania was here way before u
but now hes obsessed
titania
same tbh @daring trench
I am WA master here
@vagrant cobalt
More like... Dungeon master 
If you know the reference
waifu
@red comet obsessed with what exactly?
u switch name
1AM here
thats why they cant recongise u
obsessedvwith squares
those fancy rend, sks
timers
Tha Fuk if i can manage to track that
I'm obsessed with squares myself. But with no fancy things and still aiming for simplicity
@daring trench urs and mine are same
Meaning no unlabeled or non-icon bars with no meaning
i have alot of things that are
If i dont see them - they are ready to use
inb4 blue guy comes and kicks us all for spamming wrong channel
11 vs 13 for u
@red comet
You haven't seen my prot pala wip from 2 months ago
we talk about aragement of Ui
i was always going for simple wa's
A pretty big problem with WA arrangement is keeping it simple enough so that you don't look at it wondering "what is that?"
and if something has fancy looking stuff i dislike from the very beggining
basically always been making things that are similar to Naowh ui
The thing with Titania's bars is exactly this
before i even knew him LULW
You look at those bars and corners and go "Was ist das?"
dunno i'd fit way more info
with less clutter
I would personally create a group under the small icons row and put all that stuff in there
Including shattering throw
u need to understan - he did not force any1 to use hes auras, thats hes vision and needs
and he liked it
thats enough
i wouldnt even consider wasting icon space for axe
and if something id put that somewhere far from middle as it's not spell that ure using often
we just discuss our thoughts
am very hapy with this
Wago.io is a database of sharable World of Warcraft addon elements
he maid it for me specificaly
2 in 1
hmmm
gorgeous
I like that style too
aye thats good save of space
it works for charge/intervane cos u can put them on 1 button macro
i want more shit on 1 button
but can figure what 2 abilities
like dbts and sr or ip
but i thing its not a good idea
Hmmm
oooo
for that split wa
@vagrant cobalt you can see code on wago
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tbh
pvp
But it is not on cd or anything
hm
the sole reason for range check is solved through finding any wa that soes this
got range check there
6 sec
Something like this for example
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Just go to bed
cant
leveling hard
Critique my UI please? https://youtu.be/5jK8jHYTEG0
@red comet My WA is complete
any clean UI suggestions for fury war?
default ui
@granite radish scrol up
currently i sue this trash lol https://i.imgur.com/dr7U1FU.jpg
i like def ui
just need more clean if possible
haha yeah i guess
im back to the game for like a week
trying to find something comfy
@granite radish u can make default look easily
and i was refering for WAs
so pick up something
any specific liek that ?
@granite radish Kartoon or Titania
is it linked above you said ? @red comet
I might upload it to wago
Kartoon=mine
Exactly
u sure
ye unfortunately i dont like elvui too much
had performance issues with it on the past
T_T
but i start to think that lot of things are just how the game is
cuz i recorded my raid today and had almost same fps
Don't worry. I'll come home and share my prot stuff that you can use to make your fury/arms sets if you want. It is a really easy process consisting mostly of replacing triggers and tweaking conditions here and there
And you can take Todu's rage bar
@daring trench cant find option for global CD
maybe
@red comet @granite radish
Too many WA to grab :<
that is the price you pay when using dynamic groups 
Wago.io is a database of sharable World of Warcraft addon elements
aight, should...
You can do TSU
function(states, event, unit)
if event == "PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED" or unit == "player" or unit == "target" then
local height = aura_env.region:GetHeight()
for _, v in pairs(states) do
v.show = false
v.changed = true
end
local active = 0
for index, aura in ipairs(aura_env.auras) do
local id = aura.id
local result = { aura.Find(aura.FindType, id) }
if result[1] and aura.IsVisible(result) then
states[id] = {
show = true,
changed = true,
duration = result[5],
color = aura.color,
expirationTime = result[6],
progressType = 'timed',
offset = active * height,
name = aura.Label(result),
icon = result[2],
index = index,
autoHide = true
}
active = active + 1
end
end
end
return true
end
i am not following
TSU = trigger state updater
u mean for range check
No, instead of having to use Dynamic Group
i like dynamic groups
i like dynamic groups [2]
You can make TSU behave the same way as Dynamic Group
@red comet I am finished with my WA
See you in 2 years
jk
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lol no
same setup since mop almost
only ui changed

in bfa pre patch
yeah
we all use literally the same basic idea

btw - u Need to see @boreal swan Ui
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysYfT3f9Wjc for it in action
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It's functional
exactly
A UI main job isn't to look good, it's to be as helpful for the user as possible
almost my legion ui
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then i've changed it to that
@daring trench ur Rusian?
ะฟัะธะฒะตั
played on EU-Gordunni for 4 years before moving to Kazzak and now Draenor
yes
it is same for everything
you apply baseline spell as a trigger
and it will work around it and its talent replacements
how i can turn timers form white to red under 3 sek
@red comet set the trigger to cooldown progress of the spell. Go to conditions, create a condition, choose the trigger and select duration remaining and choose < 3
And then you select bar color and choose the color you want
Take a look at my WeakAura. I do this for the Rend and Rage bar
@gusty musk cant move ur aura
you should be able to move it @red comet
@gusty musk how to make gcd swipe not count with time
You mean, don't show gcd text?
Create a trigger, status, and there should be a gcd option
And then go to display and remove text
I think I am going to try out plater
Since there's nothing to do
Show me your trigger(s)
Disappear when it's not in cooldown?
it works
till i add a second trigger for gcd
Wago.io is a database of sharable World of Warcraft addon elements
cant pull ull WA for charge/intervene In
till i add a second trigger for gcd
@red comet
You can make GCD cutaway through custom text
I honestly give up using them
Vivv showed it to me 2 months ago
something visual bothers me
function(_, duration, progress)
return duration > 1.5 and progress or ""
end
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add it to custom text instead of %p and let it do the job
i mean its same - but its bit better and easy to switch spells
import mine now and see for ur self
mhm
i play at 25"
they are maximum small so i can see them just Ok
not a fan of big Auras
thats 32/32 on first row and 30/30 on second
i think i'll move party frames below my WA's
i think u need abit more space btw Auras and player/target frames
@daring trench btw i recomend this
BiS rend WA
Monitor size does not matter. It's the resolution


