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vague copper
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holloweds server

warm forum
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SHOUT OUT TO MINECRAFT

vague copper
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u mong

warm forum
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SHOUT OUT TO MINECRAFT

vague copper
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I TOLD U

hollow hemlock
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w0tz going on in here

warm forum
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FUCK COREJO

vague copper
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WE'RE PLAYIN MODPACKS

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AND UR LIKE

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NAH

warm forum
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????

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SHOW ME PROOF

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OF ME SAYING THAT

low wind
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corejo will have you bent over on all fours coughing at the corner of his bed before you realise where you are

warm forum
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WE LITERALLY PLAYED FOR 2 DAYS

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THEN YOU DITCHED

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THEN A WEEK LATER YOU PLAYING BY YOURSELF

vague copper
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wdym I PLAYED FOR LIKE

hollow hemlock
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Block gaem good?

warm forum
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SHOUT OUT TO MINECRAFT

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SHOUT OUT TO MINECRAFT

vague copper
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W EEK

warm forum
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SHOUT OUT TO MINECRAFT

vague copper
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OK

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UR DUMB

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URDUMB

random summit
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Haha

vague copper
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THE BOYS ARE DEAD

languid beacon
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pepehands Stop fighting

hollow hemlock
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When you think #fury is a shouting match and you walk in to this

ruby gorge
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yeah wtf

languid beacon
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You are tearing this family apart!

low wind
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@hazy olive for record this could’ve been us having a couples fight about minecraft in skyhold off topic but you didn’t want to play

random summit
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Xeos is a fury at heart

hollow hemlock
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@ruby gorge You seem reasonable, wanna be friends?

ruby gorge
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i would love that

languid beacon
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@low wind This could of been us talking about league but you play on EU

hollow hemlock
random summit
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fucking league

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Piss off

vague copper
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league owns

languid beacon
vague copper
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u suck

random summit
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nou

low wind
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i literally have 5 eu accounts and you’re playing games on NA

random summit
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I remember Corejo sent me random porn on DM once

ruby gorge
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literally just all of skyhold right now

vague copper
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???

random summit
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You don't remember?

ruby gorge
vague copper
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u lITERALLY

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ASKED

low wind
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broke my heart from NA but lives in EU

languid beacon
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I remember when he sent me a gif

vague copper
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U FIEND

random summit
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NO

vague copper
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YES

languid beacon
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It started out with a gif how did it end up like this

random summit
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I did

languid beacon
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it was only a gif

random summit
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I had forgotten you had sent it tho

vague copper
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lies

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lies

random summit
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That was almost a year ago huh

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Time flies

low wind
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i might just pull up to herti and clap cheeks

languid beacon
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GUYS I'M TRYING TO DO SHELLGAME

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SHUT UP

vague copper
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my favourite gif

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of all time

low wind
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4 hour drive

languid beacon
random summit
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I can post my fave gif

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It's not nsfw

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But pls don't ban me corejo

low wind
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catch me on the m9

languid beacon
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Catch me on the M16

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about to kick your ass

warm forum
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im tryna get corejo removed from skyhold tbh

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mt

random summit
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I hate that gif

vague copper
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cease

languid beacon
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Where do I sign

frank mango
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w h y

languid beacon
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You grill

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24/7

languid beacon
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ur a boomer

random summit
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Corejo is a coomer

vague copper
low wind
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pull up herti

hazy olive
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Man corey you're just stealing

low wind
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we might fuck around and end up naked wrestling on your mums bed

hazy olive
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All my gifs

random summit
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@vague copper u?

languid beacon
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Corey is cute as heck

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Hol up

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Don't diss him like that

warm forum
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corey is like 16

random summit
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Man

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I should go to bed

vague copper
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You fiends

random summit
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Almost 2am

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PLAY REACH WITH US

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WHEN IT'S OUT

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I'LL BUY IT FOR YOU

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YOU SKANK

vague copper
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No

languid beacon
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Nah he's gonna play with me

vague copper
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I'm hard to play games with

random summit
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Herti, play with me

vague copper
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@hazy olive knows

random summit
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But you are easy to play

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😉

languid beacon
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What the fuck

vague copper
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U got owned

languid beacon
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Sorry had to do

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a lot of scrolling

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Yeah okay boomer

vague copper
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I mean outside of league and wow

languid beacon
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Corey we DM a lot

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it took a lot to find that

low wind
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herti is cute too

languid beacon
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Wait hol up

vague copper
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Use the search function

random summit
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You barely play wow

vague copper
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U fiends

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All of u

random summit
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Can't even hit 60

languid beacon
vague copper
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Classic sucks

random summit
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You say that

low wind
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59 gang

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ok boomer

random summit
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But I remember how hyped you were

languid beacon
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Classic sucks

low wind
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he changed pfp twice for classic

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that’s big

random summit
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Ye

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I remember his orc pfp

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Good times

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When corejo was happy

languid beacon
hollow hemlock
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@vague copper Wanna play tetris?

warm forum
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i remember when corey would play games with me

hollow hemlock
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Not same

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feelsEUman

languid beacon
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Xeos you gotta understand he's busy being a boomer now

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He hates video games

random summit
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@warm forum now he only play with pp

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😦

warm forum
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;/

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imagine quitting retail wow to play classic

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just to not get 60

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literal boomer

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coreyjo

languid beacon
hollow hemlock
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Imagine playing BFA GWlulurdMegaLul

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wait

random summit
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Corejoomer

hollow hemlock
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Coomer

languid beacon
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BFA pipes

low wind
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i pipe

languid beacon
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No

hollow hemlock
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pipe life

random summit
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Laying pipes

tight vault
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@low wind i remember when you stopped playing arena with me nearly an hour ago because you need to "wake up at 6am"

random summit
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kek

languid beacon
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@low wind is a big dumb idiot

random summit
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Go the fuck to bed you scottish cunt

tight vault
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Right

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you

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ya cunt

vague copper
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Corejo is never happy

languid beacon
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Legit 3 braincells

vague copper
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That's the key

low wind
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star you’re the least threatening scottish person i know

tight vault
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disrespect scotland again and see what fucking happens

hollow hemlock
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depression GWsetmyxPeepoSad

low wind
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owns i know myself

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you don’t have remotely any form of depth to your scottish accent, and i’m from milngavie like stfu

vague copper
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All of you

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Are fiends

low wind
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fight me boomer

ruby gorge
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woah dude

tight vault
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ok boomer

languid beacon
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Shut up boomer

low wind
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eat the boomer

tight vault
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also @low wind you literally said that you articulate more than me

languid beacon
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E A T T H E B O O M E R

tight vault
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and @nova dome agrees that i have the better accent

languid beacon
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Imagine not being from yorkshire

hollow hemlock
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You know Kaege?

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What a legend

languid beacon
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idiots the lot of you

vague copper
low wind
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tollcross nice one

random summit
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Kaege is a bitch

languid beacon
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Ah the idiotbox

vague copper
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Dumb idiot box

low wind
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that’s the yorkshire of scotland

tight vault
ruby gorge
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imagine being from EU LULW

tight vault
languid beacon
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Taur I'm 5 seconds away from wapping you around the head

tight vault
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honk honk

low wind
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i only visit to get bank

nova dome
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I have the superior accent

languid beacon
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🤡

nova dome
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I mean

hollow hemlock
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@ruby gorge Imagine not having free healthcare and college skyhold

random summit
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Tauruz lives in that park

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In a cardboard box

languid beacon
nova dome
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between star and tauruz, it's 100% tauruz

ruby gorge
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Im canadian idiot i have one of those

languid beacon
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one

low wind
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obviously i have the better accent

tight vault
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tauruz paid him

low wind
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i’m not a cunt

hollow hemlock
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Half way there

tight vault
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it said star originally

low wind
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doubt it

nova dome
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JK

random summit
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I saw it too

hollow hemlock
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Make a strawpoll

nova dome
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LMAO

random summit
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It said star

nova dome
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star has a million times better accent

tight vault
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also idk what it is with kaeges accent

low wind
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kaege is a bellend

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@hazy olive you like my accent right daddy?

hollow hemlock
tight vault
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like, its very clearly not native english but it just sounds nice

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wal is french he isnt allowed an opinion

hollow hemlock
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oooo

low wind
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wal is my best friend and you’re a whore

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silence retard

warm forum
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silence boomers

ruby gorge
low wind
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fake rend

hollow hemlock
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RIP

vague copper
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again

tight vault
low wind
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i didn’t even vote for myself ngl

vague copper
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ur all fiends

tight vault
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xd

languid beacon
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Go away dad

low wind
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corejo is the worst dad

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i haven’t been fed in months

hollow hemlock
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@vague copper Are you ok buddy?

languid beacon
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Are any of us okay?

warm forum
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corejo is not dad material

hollow hemlock
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tru

warm forum
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he's literally the doormat

languid beacon
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No but he's Daddy material NamiUwU

warm forum
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yikes

hollow hemlock
low wind
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yikes

warm forum
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and thats when i leave offtopic

hollow hemlock
tight vault
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@languid beacon false

low wind
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corejo can’t be daddy material

languid beacon
low wind
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he’s a fuxking child

vague copper
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wheres the lie @warm forum

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dont see it

low wind
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he’s 19

warm forum
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what lie

languid beacon
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Can't believe I'm being kinkshamed by offtopic

vague copper
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im saying

languid beacon
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Unreal

vague copper
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ur right

hollow hemlock
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Isn't he like 21

ruby gorge
warm forum
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i'm still confused

hollow hemlock
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or 22

vague copper
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@low wind im 21 u white blob

low wind
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kink shaming is my kink

hollow hemlock
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wew

languid beacon
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It's just a meme saying you right Xeos

low wind
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wow it’s moomin i’ll have you know and i live by that

warm forum
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i dont get it

tight vault
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is this lord of the flies

languid beacon
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Y'all making my worldquest clear slower

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be quiet

warm forum
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just close your eyes

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like what

languid beacon
tight vault
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do we need to hold the conch to speak

low wind
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i’ll go first

languid beacon
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Oh fuck

low wind
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this is a shiny charizard

languid beacon
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not this shit again

tight vault
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you better say the right shit here

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otherwise im bringing FUCKING MATH

languid beacon
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NOT THIS SHIT AGAIN

tight vault
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i used to do this shit PROFESSIONALLY

warm forum
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doesnt look very shiny

nova dome
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what the fuck is going on here

tight vault
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UNIRONCIALLY

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side note

low wind
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i’m 3000 soft resets into my fire red game for a shiny charmander

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NICE TALKING CONCH BTW RETARDS

tight vault
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@dense notch thoughts on lord of the flies?

languid beacon
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I'm so fuckign tired

ruby gorge
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just sleep

languid beacon
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I'm so god damn tired

dense notch
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It's an alright book

warm forum
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TIER GUDToday at 7:00 PM
just close your eyes
like what

languid beacon
low wind
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so i’m 3000 resets into a shiny charmander spawn, on average it takes 8000

dense notch
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I prefer to read something like old man and the sea

tight vault
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i honestly think the symbolism in it is waaaaaaaaaay overstated

low wind
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how about i symbolise your face with a fuxkin stanley

tight vault
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🤡

vague copper
dense notch
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Well that would definitely come down to how familiar you are with picking up various symbolism and literary techniques, as well as your personal take on the books in general. And your investment in it, how much you care to read into it, etc. etc.

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The first one or two times I read old man and the sea I thought I was just a nice old man fishing

tight vault
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how could you not see the symbolism in a book wrote about yourself

low wind
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meth isn’t old

tight vault
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also, i guess the "its as deep as you want it to be" kinda works

dense notch
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Just going to let that one slide

tight vault
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shut up

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thats fair

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thank you for being amicable

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poggies

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hold on

hollow hemlock
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hol up

nova dome
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@tight vault nice pfp

languid beacon
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10/10

tight vault
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gotta agree with yall on this one too

low wind
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massive bitch btw

tight vault
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ok mr 16%

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WAIT

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THIS HAS A DOUBLE MEANING NOW

low wind
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how?

tight vault
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shit

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its changed now

low wind
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it was always 18

tight vault
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no it wasnt

low wind
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it wasn’t 16

tight vault
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it was this one that was the 16

twilit belfry
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need lore on that

tight vault
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tauruz chain grey parses

low wind
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ppl in pugs either kill you or kill the group

tight vault
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dont die as fury tho 4head

twilit belfry
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🍿

low wind
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heroic azshara pugs are bane of my existence

tight vault
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you have to wake up in 4hours

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that will be the bane of your existence

low wind
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you’ll literally get 3 different stand together groups in melee

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and still have some bellend trying to stand on when you’ve got stand alone

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in fairness i have orange everywhere now

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and not a single consumable

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xd

tropic stream
tropic stream
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drafted i have been

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commit warcrimes i shall

warm forum
hollow sundial
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Hold up. Let me dance real quick

next crane
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Daily reminder @glossy prawn is a clownDance

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Also daily reminder im a bigger Clowns

glossy prawn
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Only 9AM

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Cmon

next crane
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its 2 am for me

glossy prawn
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Go to bed then.

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😒

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Young people these days...

next crane
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I'm actually getting in bed rn

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last thing I was gonna do was come here and spread the love for wowA

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then ping you

glossy prawn
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It was a nice ping, good job.

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😄

next crane
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also

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is there any new tank essences that would be cool for wowA?

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or all sleepers

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(new as in 8.3)

glossy prawn
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Maaaaaybe.

next crane
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Just let me know

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I'll get them in real quick

glossy prawn
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Don't worry, i'll annoy you.GWcmeisterPeepoLove

next crane
hollow sundial
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Pokémon 😎

tropic stream
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american tax dollars at work

lavish lava
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Beware the bug that will erase all game save data from your switch

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Including other games

hollow hemlock
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@lavish lava explain?

lavish lava
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@hollow hemlock People have reported their game crashing after an autosave that ends up deleting all save data from their console

hollow hemlock
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o

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thanks

lavish lava
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Some people have been hit by it even after disabling autosave

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All games on your Switch will be uninstalled and have their save files deleted.

modest knot
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Exilecon is soon hype!

modest knot
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Also Impeachment hearings are live if you enjoy crazy political theatre

hollow hemlock
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Trump isn't a clown

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He's the entire circus

modest knot
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Its very interesting to watch regardless of you opinion of the US president because you can base your opinion not from an article or headline you read but base it off the testimony and questions you hear yourself.

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If you do this sort of thing It also becomes extremely funny to read stuff after the fact that is very biased. Especially so because this whole thing will most likely go through since the US congress is democrat heavy but because they dont have bipartisan support will get it thrown out in senate.

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hence why I called it "political theatre" to try and sway the next US election and because people dont actually watch this sort of things and just repeat headlines they read.

plain portal
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What are your thoughts on loot systems? Pros and cons and what do you guys prefer. Pinging my prot homies but im hoping others can comment @pastel mist @stable ledge @inner mesa dunno who else maybe @twilit stirrup since he has a leadership role

lavish lava
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Master loot is the way to go.

plain portal
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i honestly prefer bidding dkp all the way, i think its the fairest. As a raid lead i've kinda used both that and Loot Council and i just refuse to use loot council again after all the loot drama

lavish lava
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I'm hearing a lot about trials complaining they have to give up loot to the guild. Makes sense but alot of people dislike that aspect of giving up "your" loot.

plain portal
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what do you mean?

lavish lava
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Like youre in a raid

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You get dropped BiS sword but youre a trial

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Main raider needs it so it gets loot councilled to him instead.

plain portal
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ah yeah

lavish lava
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But its already in your bag

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It just encourages guild hopping

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And distrust

plain portal
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yeah thats a fair point

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we have not been limiting trials on getting loot so far

lavish lava
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Its a big concern in people who trial for some of the better guilds

plain portal
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but i can see how that might become an issue if apps/recruits arent allowed to

lavish lava
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The logic behind it is you get dropped BiS but arent guaranteed to get in the guild.

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So might aswell keep it and try for another guild.

plain portal
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yeah its a slippery slope

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just for clarity though im talking more in lines of classic

lavish lava
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So just to avoid that drama Master loot needs to return

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Loot council is more difficult with 40 people

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So is DKP

plain portal
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yup

lavish lava
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There's holes in DKP aswell

plain portal
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both systems have big drawbacks

lavish lava
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I forgot how Preach explained it so i'll try my best to explain

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Its basically Johnny Awesome and Little Timmy

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Johny has all the gear and because he has all the gear he gets invited to raid every time and racks up tons of DKP to buy items he doesnt need

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Little timmy has no gear so he doesnt get invited so he gets no DKP so he doesnt get any gear which just results in him not getting invited unless people dont show up.

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And i'd say someone with the best interest in his guild doing well wouldnt hoard loot like that. But swinging from DKP to Loot Council just creates drama.

inner mesa
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Best system ive ever been in was Suicide Kings

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hands down

lavish lava
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I'd say loot Council with priority tiers is best. "Already got loot" and "No loot"

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Well, more like roll council

inner mesa
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leverages achiveable goals, properly awards attendence, and most importantly doesnt cause the situation described above

lavish lava
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You get prioroty if you havent gotten loot yet. If you have, anyone that hasnt gotten loot that rolls gets it over you.

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@inner mesa Explain?

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I'm not familiar

inner mesa
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im in a meeting, one sec

lavish lava
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Ping me when you got it written out 👍

stable ledge
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How disconcerting to go into a channel and see someone with your name talking.

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On the subject though, I'm probably not the person to ask. I've used DKP before, never used loot council. I would probably never use a loot council because I've never been in a guild I could trust to not have some bias going on where that's concerned. Maybe if there were really strict rules clearly laid out or something. DKP is fine as long as you set restrictions to it (e.g. you can't bid on something just to bid on it; it has to be something you actually need). I think in this day and age it would probably be a decent idea to set requirements other than attendance for DKP too since we have the resources.

There's probably not a perfect system. I wouldn't mind personal loot if the restrictions weren't there, but then split runs would be the most mandatory thing you could think of for WF guilds and I'm sure that's not fun for them.

modest knot
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Isnt the issue of splits more of an issue now then when there was ML?

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removing player agency seems like a bad idea, blizzard forcing a set playstyle (in regards toloot acquisition) seems to be counter to what players like

stable ledge
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The issue with splits is that they exist. They're harder to do now than when you had ML afaik (not that I'm an expert)

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Which is either a good thing or a bad thing depending on how you look at it I guess

tight vault
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master loot made it easier to give all the loot to one person, but not all the loot was the type they needed

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i.e, you could give them a 455 trinket even if you didnt have a 455 trinket equipped but if you were doing a leather split you would be getting plate gear

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the only thing that would change is that your splits would be 26 people (heroic) + 1 clothie + 1 leather + 1 mail + 1 plate

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and you would try to make as little loot overlap as possible e.g mage + rogue + resto + prot

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then nobody needs each others trinkets or each others armor type

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the only loot that needs to get decided on is rings and cloaks

inner mesa
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Ok--So Suicide Kings: The system in a nutshell is that:

  • you aggregate points via participation (this also includes non-raid things during raid times, aka farming for the guild or doing runs for people not actively raiding).
  • When an item drops, people basically say the want it and the person with the most points losses 100% of whatever they had on that piece. They drop to 0 points (hence the name of the system).
  • If an item drops that no one "bids" on, or is willing to suicide for, then it goes into a standard roll-off. Play the dice on this one (this sometimes was met with other outside shit, like my guildie offering a shitload of gold to buy it off a trial).
  • This only applies to main raids, off-gearing raids you don't spend on but you do earn on.
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That's pretty much it. A few things I've observed happened under this system which I liked:

  • Geared Jimmy (that one dude who's just the A++ raider who's got the best gear and all the points) can't stranglehold future content via a massive stockpile of points. One item and it's all gone.
  • Little Timmy (new recruit) benefits because he can save up and will eventually be top dog, by just attending. Little Timmy also gets full points even though he's playing a melee spec on a ranged-focused fight or isn't geared enough. He's got something he can work for.
  • You get what you want and you know your place in line. Works especially well for those big A-List items. Person who saved for it is rewarded with it and its clear who gets the next one. Pretty transparent.
  • People's actual wants are weighted. Sure everyone likes new gear, but the relative difference in the want is there. Do I suicide on this ring? Or do I hold out for that trinket? Allows you to make pretty clear trade-offs in what your gearing priorities are.
  • Lesser geared people get a lot of gear by default, which also makes having less points than others feel not as bad.
  • It was simple and people got it pretty quick, so less bickering on that front.
  • If a drop happened to be mandated to a role for "the guild", the person who would benefit from that drop gets a "second life". They only lose half points on their next suicide (some used these situations for other types of "lives" such as getting an extra roll when going after gear in farm raids or straight up getting priority on next drop, etc.). @lavish lava
stable ledge
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Pings in edits don't actually ping them btw

modest knot
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^ seems like a decent system, created by players to aquire loot what a wacky thing.. /s 🙂 Why don't you like the force fed system by blizzard in the current year, sir!

stable ledge
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It does seem really good actually. I guess the only concern for me would be like...if the item you really wanted never dropped, you'd have saved all those points and missed out on other loot that maybe would've been your second choice. But I guess as time passed, you'd be more likely to end up with those pieces by default anyway since other people would have already gotten them.

lavish lava
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@inner mesa Seems like a pretty good system. What kind of numbers are you working with and what kind of activities would you give points for?

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How much farming is worth how much points?

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@stable ledge whos name are you talking about?

stable ledge
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Yours

lavish lava
#

You despise my name?

stable ledge
#

Huh? No o_O

lavish lava
#

What does disconcerting mean :0

stable ledge
#

I think you're reading what I wrote wrong. I meant that it weirded me out to come into a channel and see someone with my name typing.

lavish lava
#

Well i dont know what disconcerting means

stable ledge
#

I meant "your" generally, not meaning specifically you :p

lavish lava
#

And i didnt know your name was don either

stable ledge
#

Unsettled, ruffled, perturbed

lavish lava
#

🤔

stable ledge
#

I know you don't.

#

I wouldn't expect anyone to know my name lol

#

I just meant that it surprised me to see my name typing when I came into the channel.

lavish lava
#

Thats why i was confused you'd say that without a hint

stable ledge
#

I'm not accusing you of anything

plucky vale
#

im getting brain damage from reading this

lavish lava
#

Yeah, "my" wouldve made more sense

stable ledge
#

I'm not explaining this well I guess

lavish lava
#

Go back to 2009. Derp isnt funny anymore.

stable ledge
lavish lava
#

👌

merry bison
plain portal
#

the problem with suicide kings is that it doesn't reward attendance

#

@inner mesa

#

i want to be able to reward attendance so naturally straight up bid dkp seems like the answer

#

after some discussion i think i have mostly convinced our officers about it, but...

#

they want to kind of limit what you can bid on based on what helps the raid the most

#

and the officers are split up on that

#

some want... lets say X weapon is better for some melee dps but is also BiS for hunters (lets mention core hound tooth and brutality blade). They would want to make sure that it is limited to melee dps first

#

on principle its kinda wrong because you just want people to bid on what they want

#

but of course it will help the guild in some ways

#

i did research SK though i think its a good system, its just... it doesn't do anything for poor timmy that comes to all raids

#

hmm

#

i must be confusing SK with the one where you give a budget to people on each raid

#

either way im pretty sure half my officers will not agree with it

inner mesa
#

attendence is rewarded in this system

plain portal
#

i see i see i stand corrected

inner mesa
#

in fact, more so than other systems as you get equal value whether you are "picked" for the fight or not

#

I actually came into this system when I was doing Vanilla Naxx

plain portal
#

ok so what are your thoughts on what half my officers want in place?

inner mesa
#

I earned a lot of my points helping farm shadow resistance pots for loatheb

#

and didn't even step into the raid, but when I did....

plain portal
#

yeah i get that

inner mesa
#

i was able to snag tier since i was top dawg when i did come in. It was very rewarding, especially since the "main" peeps were totally fine with it since they were not dropping on tier since they wanted that weapon upgrade

#

so there's this desire to have "control" on the system which is in name of the "guild". Well, it's a pretty simple look at history to show what happens when people are capped on what they want to do in the name of a concept.....

#

it only works when people fundamentally buy into the concept, which is something that is very weighted towards older members. It's not perfect, but I've found that trying to control stuff can often end up back firing

plain portal
#

yes, i agree

#

but i can't think of any examples

inner mesa
#

if you have a hunter snagging that BIS melee weapon over it and is legitimately not using it well, then that's a person-problem not a system problem imho. After all, if it does actually increase their dps and benefiting them, then it becomes a semantical shit-show real fast.

plain portal
#

there's another example

#

that an officer put in

#

there are these 2 rings: one which is a healer only ring, and one that is obviously both a healer and a caster ring

#

they are worried that on free bids, healers will be able to bid on the dps ring

#

and also have that other healer only ring available

#

so they are taking the one ring dps can use

#

essentially double dipping

inner mesa
#

Does the ring benefit the healer?

plain portal
#

it does just not as much as the healer only ring

inner mesa
#

But did both drop?

plain portal
#

just an example though

inner mesa
#

If only the caster dropped, not the healer ring then it's an equal upgrade to both cases in that moment. After all, WoW is RNG so there's no guarantee that the "healer ring" will even appear. So denying an upgrade because another one hyopthetically exists elsewhere is....silly to me

plain portal
#

yes but the point is that they can roll on 2 different rings versus dps's single one

inner mesa
#

second, the healer will still have to suicide on that ring, anyway. So that's the choice they'll have to make as if that healer ring DOES drop next week, they'd surely not get it since they just bombed the week before

plain portal
#

yeah but there are still more than 1 healer

inner mesa
#

sure, and one got the "better" upgrade because the first guy wanted the bird-in-hand

#

Atiesh was our big case for this

plain portal
#

thunderfury

#

rogues vs prot warrior

#

you're limiting somehow if you want the tanks to get it

#

so that's a slippery slope

inner mesa
#

for sure

plain portal
#

if you do that on legendary items why not do it for other pieces

#

or is there a complete stop

inner mesa
#

mostly because legendary pieces come in parts

#

so you'd bid on the left binding

plain portal
#

well some legendary pieces

#

sulf certainly doesnt

#

outside of the tangent though

#

how could i convince my officers that limiting raid items is a bad idea?

inner mesa
#

well, that one is gated on the Eye drop

#

well, it's not necessarily bad as it needs to be consistent and understandable to those subject to it

#

the reason shit like that breaks down and can go sour is when it feels "arbitrary"

#

if it's like "first thunderfury goes to the tank", well, then it's pretty straight forward. Rogues don't have to feel the need to save up and not spend and can instead choose to gear elsewhere.

plain portal
#

so if it was set at the start

#

and everyone agreed on it

#

there's likely to be less problems with it? is that what you're saying?

#

i guess that kinds of goes without saying yeah?

#

ok

#

i think we will manage this tonight hopefully

#

i think SK is a good suggestion though, especially with the big issue of inflation

#

which for some fucking reason

inner mesa
#

yeah, it's pretty straight forward but needs to be said haha

plain portal
#

no officer understands why i wanna tax

inner mesa
#

the biggest problem with DKP imho is that it's the same shit as actual economics

plain portal
#

so i guess that eliminates that discussion completely

inner mesa
#

the big cats just keep getting bigger

plain portal
#

yeah

inner mesa
#

and it's eventually like "yep, not getting loot this tierf"

plain portal
#

i didnt wanna say it here because well... i dont wanna get into politics

#

but its 100% like economics

#

especially certain systems that start with the letter C

inner mesa
#

I was in a guild in Vanilla that had this and when AQ40 came out I was soooo far behind the top rogues that I basically didn't get a single piece of loot until the 3 other rogues were fully kitted out

plain portal
#

on bidding dkp yeah?

inner mesa
#

and this was because they got all their loot sooo early in BWL

plain portal
#

that's why i wanna tax inflation, and none of the officers get it

inner mesa
#

that they just stacked cash money for the whole tier

#

we had so many rogues apply, get in, realize they wouldn't see a piece of loot for actual months, and dipped

plain portal
#

they go like "well you're just reducing people's efforts for no reason"

#

obviously i go "but you do still keep the lead...."

inner mesa
#

the fun part about SK is that it works WITH RNG

plain portal
#

im convinced

#

but honestly im sure they will want to do the limiting thing

inner mesa
#

i remember one time I missed a raid and like all the good shit for my class dropped

#

i came back and was like....wtf i'm next in line...

#

and BOOM top tier weapon dropped on first kill

#

and i was the one who snagged it

plain portal
#

yeah that was my experience of a dkp system as well

#

that didnt have inflation management

#

its funny because most of them they just remove a flat amount of it, or just reset when a new tier comes out

#

but something as simple as removing a percent each week should be more manageable

#

either way im going to suggest SK tonight

#

hopefully that deals with the inflation issue in itself

inner mesa
#

i liked it, and made some drops real spicy

plain portal
#

im still worried about the limiting shit though

#

we'll see

#

anyway Pokemon and Jedi Fallen Order tonight ✅

lavish lava
#

Suicide kings seems like the way to go

modest knot
#

Exilecon is soon!!!!

#

hype!

#

9 minutes!

nova dome
pastel mist
#

@plain portal loot council or epgp

random summit
#

GDKP

tropic stream
random summit
#

@vague copper reach?

vague copper
#

no

random summit
#

I will DM you sonic porn until you buy it

vague copper
#

go for it

slender schooner
#

:WeirdChamp:

plucky vale
tight vault
#

@fair elm

hollow sundial
#

Goblins

tropic stream
hazy olive
#

#thuglife

low wind
#

you’re just regular gay

hollow sundial
#

@low wind why does your profile picture look familiar my warrior brother. I saw it before but I can’t think of the name

low wind
#

its moomin

#

disrespect him and i’ll end you

tropic stream
rigid nymph
#

stinky moomin

low wind
#

WHAT

rigid nymph
#

you heard me

#

stinker

tropic stream
languid beacon
#

@errant summit you crazy bastard you did it

slender schooner
languid beacon
#

LAWLESS

low wind
#

pepohug marok me and my man

errant summit
#

fuk u

willow vault
#

🤡 marok

#

raise ur standards

low wind
#

marok loves me but is afraid to admit it in public

hoary salmon
#

uh no

#

ur a stinky

hollow sundial
brittle pike
#

AMR was right

#

Bin this

opal shale
#

peepoPoint 🗑️

hollow sundial
eager mason
#

please stop

rigid nymph
#

i fucking love that clip

eager mason
mighty wigeon
main trout
hollow sundial
hollow hemlock
#

RIP headphone users

modest knot
#

never click a thumbnail with a cross eyed chick XD

tropic stream
#

peter griffin

ruby gorge
#

🦀 🦀 🦀 red name is gone 🦀 🦀 🦀

twilit belfry
plucky vale
eager mason
willow vault
#

omg be abt to zap the gays

slender schooner
#

tru

grizzled dawn
mighty wigeon
#

@hollow sundial HASHIRE SORI YO

hollow sundial
random summit
#

Man

#

I would rather be a giant skeleton

elfin ocean
#

Spook

lavish lava
#

Resistant to puncture damage and arrows

#

Best class

hollow hemlock
#

@modest knot I click every link Levko sends me, it only gave me a trojan once

modest knot
#

KEKW

hollow hemlock
tropic stream
#

yea

#

that happened

#

Marok07/25/2018
Banned you from Skyhold since it looks like you've been hacked

#

dont know what exactly happened still, had no issue with viruses. went to sleep, and i sent that shit to skype, discord, battlenet and bunch of other stuff

#

after that did huge scan, and it sorted itself out

hollow hemlock
#

epic

tropic stream
#

i had to go to work that morning, there my colleagues told me what it couldve been, so i installed a program that deleted it

random summit
#

Rip LEvko

#

OPh

#

You are still here

tropic stream
#

yes

random summit
#

Shieeet

hollow hemlock
#

lmao

tropic stream
#

LOL

#

undercover in skyhold

#

still dont know wt a .scr file even is

plucky vale
#

Wait Yoda gaming is levko

tropic stream
#

yes

#

hi

plucky vale
#

I thought it was just his spiritual successor

tropic stream
#

nah

#

i rejoined skyhold that same day

#

i wanna post shitty memes, i dont wanna send trojans

hollow hemlock
#

but if you click on him

#

It literally says Levko

#

lmao wat

tropic stream
#

yea

#

u can change nickname, but discord shows the original name right?

#

if u click on the image

hollow hemlock
#

Yes

plucky vale
#

I dont click on nerds

tropic stream
#

so i forgot u were rag last week since i forgot it was a thing

plucky vale
#

Thoughts fellas?

tropic stream
#

what if gay

low wind
#

here’s a wife

tropic stream
#

so basically

#

middle east

#

:Dab

low wind
#

yeh but if you’re gay she gets a strap on

#

wife and you’re now a bottom

tropic stream
#

damn

#

12 inch

low wind
#

you’re a top? should’ve been straight idiot.

tropic stream
#

also, whats up with @wanton pine arabic status

#

i wanna have that too

#

literally fill my screen with mt discord name

modest knot
#

I think if you vote democrat, or liberal depending on where you live you might actually get something like that 😛

tropic stream
#

i dont think even the most backward governemnts would seriously do that

hollow hemlock
#

Dankraze

hollow hemlock
#

But video games are made up aswell

#

🤔

tropic stream
#

you be spitting facts

hollow hemlock
#

This world is an illusion, exile

plucky vale
tropic stream
#

omg gamre reference???

vague copper
plucky vale
#

@vague copper what's up buddy

hollow hemlock
#

ebnic

tropic stream
#

hes a source for entertainment

hollow hemlock
#

trueeee

tropic stream
#

every day when i watch news, im waiting for the moment if he said smt dumb on twitter

modest knot
#

What News do you watch ?

tropic stream
#

usually while eating i watch a channel called RTL 4 in the netherlands

modest knot
#

They comment on Trumps tweets?

tropic stream
#

they dont say if its good or bad

#

but if its noteworthy they comment he said it

vague copper
#

tbf thats all i hear about trump is what he says on twitter

#

not even american

modest knot
#

I dont watch the news to bias'd here in Canada I just try and get it from the source if I wanna know.

plucky vale
#

The news is gay

#

Just play wow

vague copper
#

I don't even watch the news its just the bits i get here and there if the news just happens to be on

#

Haven't had cable in a solid 12+ years

plucky vale
#

Yeah my parents both watch the news too much

#

It's no secret the news is just a battering ram of fear mongering

modest knot
#

I enjoy current american politics these hearings are like some crazy theatre but I agree with Derp, to just play wow 🙂

plucky vale
#

😎

hollow hemlock
#

Literally every source of information in existence including your own brain is biased

merry bison
#

No u

modest knot
#

The news should be less opinion and more fact this is and has not been the case for quite a while

hollow hemlock
#

Do you not have news segments that are literally "this happened"

modest knot
#

Not sure how you can say every source of info in existance is biased. That kinda insinuates that certain facts or statistics aren't really real.

#

unless im misunderstanding

hollow hemlock
#

Sure, you can say that if you want. My point is just that saying "I don't watch the news because they're biased, I get my news elsewhere" when they're also going to be biased is kinda pointless.

modest knot
#

No I said the source

#

so for example

#

If I wanna know whats happening with on the impeachment front instead of reading or watching what a news outlet says I just watch the hearing

#

so yes I have my own biases but I will hear waht each side says and understand the perspectives regardless of if I agree or not.

hollow hemlock
#

Sure, but your perception of what you're seeing is also biased.

modest knot
#

Like I said I agree everyone as humans have there own bias but listening to the source allows you to get out of the echo chamber you are in and to see it from both side regardless of your agreement with them and you might even change your opinions on some things this is how it kinda works.

hoary salmon
#

bruh bruh bruh bruh

#

soup tastes like salt water

merry bison
hoary salmon
#

eat the popo

modest knot
#

That d4 news haHAA

hoary salmon
#

d4dead

#

lmao

modest knot
#

Imagine announcing ancient items then being like guys hey its not what you think it is

#

but we arent telling you waht it is derp

hoary salmon
#

who cares

#

its like atleast 2 years away

#

if not more

modest knot
#

I suspect 2024

hoary salmon
#

buried by competition

#

paragraph andy

#

typing typing typing

modest knot
#

I agree this statement is because of the PoE announcements and the transparency from that dev. Its blizzards attempt at doing something similar

tropic stream
#

Bliz hq

modest knot
hoary salmon
hollow sundial
hoary salmon
#

coke

nova dome
#

cokehead

modest knot
rigid nymph
random summit
#

Kek

hoary salmon
#

squadW

mighty wigeon
#

damn

tropic stream
tropic stream
#

i dont get it

hazy olive
#

im clicking

#

but no ps2

tropic stream
#

U didnt accept jesus hard enough

low wind
#

the gay guy not accepting jesus enough

modest knot
#

Anyone a Danny Brown fan?

velvet wyvern
#

@rocky sleet deswind

rocky sleet
hollow hemlock
#

Arms theorycrafting skyhold

plucky vale
#

@modest knot ya :)

plucky vale
#

Yeah I saw that lol

#

So fuckibg weird that channel

#

Hes in some of their skits too

#

He plays the daughters boyfriend

modest knot
#

Danny Brown is a mommy so I can understand why he is part of all this funny shit

cyan isle
#

FR was the best build... change me mind

hazy olive
#

current fury > FR arms

#

spammy trash 👉 Trash

random summit
#

Current Wal > Skyhold

hazy olive
#

😳

hoary salmon
#

ok boomer

warm forum
#

song goes hard

tropic stream
fathom rock
#

@willow vault

ruby gorge
#

join 😡

willow vault
#

come carry me vil

#

rn

eager mason
hoary salmon
#

imagine being so dumb that u think fury is bfa in* better than nh arms

#

smh

main trout
#

it was in bod

#

I quit after mythic jaina b/c bored

plucky vale
#

bfa fury owns

ruby gorge
#

bfa doesnt

ruby gorge
cedar kayak
#

monkaS

mighty wigeon
kind cedar
#

epic, but i dont have a VR

hazy olive
#

is this an actual full game

random summit
#

Yes

hazy olive
#

or yet another 90 minutes VR "experience"

random summit
#

That trailer looks like it has way more than 90 minutes of content

modest knot
#

It takes place between 1 and 2 aswell so it should be more cool story to see what happened however, VR is haHAA

random summit
#

Hope it's worth buying VR for

#

I hope this starts a trend of actual good VR games

modest knot
#

Ya thats the thing I feel it alienates huge portions of your fandom

kind cedar
#

isnt that what every high budget VR game tries to do
then ends up causing nausea and having poor gameplay features

#

everyone wants to be the first success, the trendsetter

random summit
#

I hope valve does it tho

modest knot
#

^ supposedly though they've worked on fixing this sort of thing but im no expert

#

🤞 its good so they make HL3

random summit
#

Can only pray

modest knot
#

My speculation is they do this as a refresher and have hl3 in the works 😛

kind cedar
#

i'm ready

hazy olive
#

i would've announced this game with a new lineup of vr devices, including a decent budget one

random summit
#

And it includes the game

hazy olive
#

if they still have that in the works too

random summit
#

That would move units

tropic stream
#

me before realizing new half life game is VR

hoary salmon
#

cold take

#

vr gay af lmao

plucky vale
#

Cold take tbh

lavish lava
#

expecting a vr game to be good

#

its just a cash grab

amber imp
#

#freetauruz

slender schooner
#

😬

eager mason
#

imagine having vr

fathom rock
#

@ruby gorge do not LULW our supreme leader Adam-kun

ruby gorge
errant summit
#

@ruby gorge ill fuk u

random summit
#

Rood

ruby gorge
hollow sundial
#

Yo y’all like anime?

ruby gorge
errant summit
turbid obsidian
#

never knew this channel existed

errant summit
#

grom what are you talking about there

turbid obsidian
#

do you still play OW marok

slender schooner
#

grom Pog

errant summit
#

nah haven't in a long time

turbid obsidian
#

oh

#

i just remember playing vs u and u were on rein

#

long time ago

#

when i was banned

errant summit
#

oh yeah

#

lul

turbid obsidian
#

then i added u and said i was reformed

#

and u unbanned me

#

good times

errant summit
#

good times :)

turbid obsidian
#

seramore you are stormforged

#

i always wanted to be stormforged back in the day

#

i can live it through you

slender schooner
turbid obsidian
fathom rock
#

I tried to make the meathead rank

ruby gorge
tropic stream
#

hey guys lets do mythic star augur

#

oh wiat

#

wrong good expansion

hollow hemlock
#

@tropic stream Sure, when do you have time?

#

@slender schooner Why did it take you this long to get stormforged. Now bully Archi into fixing AoE APL.

tropic stream
#

@hollow hemlock in 2018

hollow hemlock
#

ebin

#

@errant summit When did you become owner of Skyhold?

errant summit
#

Like 3 months after it was made

#

Which was like

tropic stream
#

When he killed the previous one

errant summit
#

4 years ago

hoary salmon
#

merek

tropic stream
#

Quality screenshots

hollow hemlock
#

What was that like Siege?

#

Any SOO gamers in the chat?

errant summit
#

@hoary salmon

hoary salmon
#

why u so fake and gay

errant summit
#

wtf...

cosmic edge
#

i like you marok, you're a cool guy

hoary salmon
#

FAAAAAAAAKE

errant summit
#

ty

hollow hemlock
#

@hoary salmon What happened to burrito boy

plucky vale
#

@slender schooner congrats

hoary salmon
#

dead

modest knot
#

Warframe Dev stream soon, any warframe fans here 😛

hoary salmon
#

no

modest knot
tropic stream
#

Ye

#

But im working so cant watch

hoary salmon
#

ough

modest knot
tropic stream
#

Late to the party, grom

modest knot
#

I'm old gimme a break 😛

tropic stream
#

Good episode

#

Randy savage best woman

modest knot
#

KEKW

tropic stream
#

"Luck is for dudes"

main trout
hoary salmon
#

trash meme lmao

#

u can see half the shit cuz its white on white

#

u fucking dumbass

twilit belfry
plucky vale
#

Wtf

#

I thought we were friends man

twilit belfry
#

@plucky vale

plucky vale
#

You were doin keys with her or something?

twilit belfry
#

no random azshara pug and she pm;d me

#

so famous people recognize me

plucky vale
#

Yeah must be really cool being known as derpingtoast's friend

#

Right? @slender schooner

slender schooner
#

correct

twilit belfry
#

corectttt

plucky vale
#

🙂