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i need an unbiased opinion so im asking here
has anyone played both rogue/hunter at 120 in m+/normal uldir
I dabbled in bm hunter
fun?
i have rogue/hunter at 110 not which i want to elvel
Both are fine choices. Good utility for m+ and good dmg
super indecisive. ive only played druid/warr for years
have never touchedf other classes
i think that pretty much comes down to whether or not u wanna play melee or ranged
Bm hunter is basically a melee class. No casts
U can sprint at 200% movespeed while losing no dps
i think over a couple weeks i will level both with no real goal
and see how that goes
@abstract folio no NSFW memes please
Fix your game pls blizz
literally unplayable
the fire crucible thing isn't centered
yikes
destro for the win
huh
bruh
https://puu.sh/BDhbG/7209367213.png sounds good to me
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^ this tbh
hello idiots
who are you
who are you
I'm Art

who you are

i thought u all died
Florida... State of stupidity measurement.
I mean
Florida has open laws
a lot of crazy stories are public info
But names are redacted
new favorite reaction image
@nova dome
mongoloid argument
me - 
you canβt use
in arms
Wasnβt my argument lul
It was a statement
My argument was clear, but was disregarded over sperging out
cat or angry face doesnβt convey the same energy as a ree
F
no

iron dagger memes tilt the fuck outta me
It's long since been a grossly inefficient method of leveling smithing.
not smithing 10000 daggers for memes
smithing iron daggers used to be the way until they nerfed it in the first patch
delet this
I thought you ded @winged gulch
https://gyazo.com/eefc30955970e37aa0c8d2143dd2b738 hate these missions.
@vague copper






thinking of unsubscribing 

dont have the motivation to get gear outside raids
we're in mythic and i have the least HP in the raid
getting oneshot by mechanics that others survive
last night a better, more motivated player was on the bench cos i was in the raid so i was like why am i even here
FeelsBadMan
gametime runs out on wednesday right before raid
so it's either one more month or just quit now

i think it's more about the fundamental issues i have with the content now
everything feels like a chore, like always
raids interest me but nngh
only content that matters is raids and m+
and m+ is the same garbo it was in legion, dont find it fun at all


what boss @mortal forum
zul
oof
4%
youll get it
ye next week
NEED?
do you?

what is this moth meme?
lΓΆΓΆp
its to the left of enter on my kb
so just more autism
get gud kb
got it
You're the minority here
especially how it started out
lΓ€mp > lΓΆΓΆp
i dont hate it
Its omegastupid
its just not funny
Well I do
its literally just repost culture
thats new
I'm sorry?
I'm not going to argue over something we'll never agree on
We're going to go in circles
Not worth my time
I mean if you're just going to insult me then theres more issues at hand here.
If you got a problem with me, take it to DM's.
Chairs are a crutch
typical russian outdoor party
cyka
skellington
Do your Doot-y make Spooktober Spooky!
delete this
awooo
@upper cradle uwu
h-h-hewwo mister π do you h-h-has a boyfwen? i am single and awooooointoooo you π
i will kill you

AND DAVE

All the good ones slowly binned by merek

@cedar comet ping him in the druid discord
oh i know he's still elsewhere
Anyone here going to play classic over retail when it comes out?
If it comes out during a dead month on retail maybe
I'd delete my retail character to get classic sooner
Even though I'm enjoying retail and have kinda nolifed it
Oh man, that's my favourite part heh
like if we had level 60 boost i'd tryhard it maybe
I get that though
I think retail is a better game now, but a worse MMO, if that makes sense
killing effing boars isn't my cup of tea
Like it's undoubtedly got better raiding, more balanced PvP
Heh, use joanas/jaimes leveling guides
Basically azeroth auto pilot for vanilla
Still get to level during a month
ye I know it
used it when I tried nost back in the day
Ahh yeah
But ye I get your point on retail
I like end game content above all
Especially with m+ now
it's the most competitive
Even in pve
Yeah, 100%
It's a better game, but a worse MMO
I think is the best way I've seen it described
Y
Never really reached end game in vanilla/classic but like the raids being 40 and world pvp stuff like that make it a better mmo by default
Like WPvP still feels dull as I just see "randomPlayer-randomServer"
yeah I think it's the permanence of it
But ye Classic is what feels like the closest WoW has been to a MMO
The only thing it lacks compared to other mmos is a changing world (like planting trees and vegetables lul) but with wow's playerbase I understand how cancer it would be
Classic s shit
Remove nostalgia goggles
Mount on 160% speed to other side of continent for a herb
Fun
Haha I played on Kronos to 60 recently
can be fun with friends I guess
Was just as fun as it was when I was 15/16
@tropic stream I dunno about nostalgia goggles, I've come to know a lot of people who've tried classic for the first time on private servers and still prefer it over retail. Different strokes. :V
I've got nostalgia + a general preference for classic, so I'll deffo be no-lifing it, and playing a bit of BfA on the side.
^
Just make servers for each expansion, if you make a character in a vanilla one and get tired of it just add an option to xfer it to the next xpac
Did they say if Classic servers will go to the next expac when the content is cleaned or not?
idk but considering it's taking them this long to just do vanilla i wouldn't hold my breath for others
Well if the Classic servers are working it's just adding the content π€
they should have patch archives somewhere

the small indie company memes didn't come from nowhere
probably there is like 1 dude still working in the WoW team who understands how all that shit works
I forgot it was a small indie company sry
@opal shale the dude is the janitor 
inb4 ion doesn't like vanilla gameplay so he puts bfa specs instead

anybody experience with logitech g305 durability? mainly left and right buttons, those are a constant problem in my mice, thanks
So, solving the biggest challenge/s with vanilla should have also solved them for the other expansions
They had all the code version controlled (some of which surely has been updated), they just hadn't version controlled assets
also, they had done some database normalisation stuff in later expansions which they've back ported to vanilla
and bnet integration
So for TBC it should* be a MUCH quicker pipeline
I imagine they've considered the possibilities, and if vanilla does well no doubt I can see TBC, WOTLK
It's free cash
@strange sandal I cant speak to the g305. But my g600 is just starting to double click on the left button after 4 years and constant use
logitech make good mice shouldbe ok
Ive found them to be the best mice
Classic MoP 
classic legion 
Classic WoD
BFA has more content then Legion had at the start but azerite armor is just
and lots of balances needed
azerite armor has problems. my take is this
firstly, artifact was a better way to showcase progression
also, you actualyl equipped it, saw it, unlocked skins for it
it wasnt a necklace taht u cant even bloody see
this alone is enough for me to not give a fuck about it
secondly, the class specific traits are either way too strong, like DC on prot warrior, or borderline useless, like literally any bdk trait. idont play other classes so maybe i msised a wealth of traits
also, i mainly do m+, meaning i cant even farm the thing
the whole selling point, azerite gear, isnt even farmable
Fury got that one op trait that keeps getting nerfed but still strong
ok so thats my point
strong or useless
why dont they buff traits by 500%, make them all super strong, fun to get
now if u get a trait its "fuck, useless" or "yay least shit one"
instead of actualyl gettign excited
thirdly, u cant feel the traits at work at all, since all are passive
i need details! to see how much dmg/effect my traits did
Because something will always be usless unless they are traits that for example makes 1 abillity last longer instead of dps increase for an abillity
in gameplay its not noticable, except the haste ones, and even they are mediocre
Yeah so I hope they improve on it
But even if they improve traits the system is still shit
Because once Blizzard decides something they go on with it. They are very stubborn
instead of making me put it in bank
w
hich im still pissed off about btw
putting my maw/scale/truthguard in bank for a shitty purple

also, if u unequip heart, ur azerite still functions
apparently
i would wear prydaz over heart of azeroth any day
If it worked
Also, satyr is still doing decent damage
But the stats on the heart make it too big anyway
I hated the artifact system heh
it was great
fuck no
I can't get excited over some shitty relic
i cant get excited over a weapon drop
You also can't get excited when the weapons don't drop
i got excited for the traits
Oh, RNG is horrible, sure, but Legion also had RNG with legendaries
and traits became useless at 34, at which point it was just farming the proc thing
the items werent
which I've already forgotten the name of
Yes but it has nothing to do with relics and weapons system
And there was no 'choice' to it (like, your eventually got all of them)
Relics are actually a good system
it'd have been better to have made a choice
Like basically old talent trees
Sure, you'd have cookie cutter builds, but IDK, it's more enaging that just slowly grinding everything out
but that's just me, a lot of people liked it clearly
Legion was my least favourite expac I think
But that was mainly from an aesthetic perspective
i was spamming dem m+
And the loss of loot identity completely
As in, you could never make a BiS least
apart from legendaries and maybe tier items
but even then it's like
"well I just got this thing that's titanforged with a socket"
whats wrong with changing gear dependign on situation
Oh, I like that
if u gonna do a +25 hyrja, u werent equipping dps leggos
oh
btw
not swapping in m+
fuck bliz
I just don't like that you can't make a "BiS" list anymore for certain scenarios
and have priority
right, I want trinket x
You get x, but it's 370 ilevel
sim it
yes ofc
hahaaa
I sim everything
but before, I knew once I had x, it was BiS until next tier or two
I could prioritse loot
now I don't even know the names of a single piece of armour I'm wearing
"does it sim higher? use it"
the name means nothing
literally get a drop, run /simc then wear it
there's no thought, no identity
no "I need to run mythic x for drop y"
I liked that
nothing I can get excited for now
Just run random dungeons and hope I get some titanforged thing
if u played tank ,u know all leggo, trinket names
idk what expansion u talked about
who cares what my gloves are called
they all are stat sticks
BfA I'm talking about now
trinkets/leggos actually were different
but the general bullshit-ness of warforging/titanforging
yeah, they are
but even then
something might be "bis", but if you only get it at M10 no socket no wf
but you get a middle of the pack 395 with socket
look this 370 curve group
it'll sim higher
yeah, sure, optimising goes a long way
but I miss creating a 'true' BiS list
I can use bloodmallet
and see, ceteris parabus, trinket y is better than x
but if x is 30 ilevels higher, with a damn socket
it beats y
So, I get y, I'm happy
I feel the same now
if nothign can have increased ilvl, then 90% of content is pointless
Yeah, so bring back loot identity
no
make loot rarer, and more impactful
make certain things more cosmetic rather than HAVING to give loot at a higher ilevel
what
as in, make Mythic + give cosmetic rewards, or profile badges, so you can show that off
Doesn't have to give loot
IMO it'd be cooler if M+ functioned more like Challenge modes anyway, but that's another argument
(vis-a-vis gear)
Like I was hype for azerite system when I thought "Yo I can start doing targetting runs for specific items"
but I can't even do that
so now it's just "mindlessly run any 10 key and hope for WF/TF"
I'm 376 equipped and most of my gear is 380+ now, so I basically just gotta hope for rando WF/TF
it doesn't feel good
thats what getting the highest gear feels like
now, on legion, on vanilla or whenever
well on vanilla it was different. I knew exactly where I wanted to go to get what item
and if you got it thats it
Yeah that was good!
its literally the same thing
It lasted, and it felt good getting it
you got the highest tf or close?
now it's just like "oh ok got a random drop"
yeah it is, but it's layers upon layers now
I run KR 10, get 370 geti'kku
Not happy, as I'll get a 380 weapon from the fucking warfront that sims higher π
Rather than "fuck yeah a 370 geti'kku"
you run whatever vanilla dungeon you should run and get a blue
it's like "oh, gotta keep farming, or hope for 390 from the chest" :<
you run another shit and get a purple
well, nah
some blues you used until naxx
from level 53
Hand of Justice
Wolfshead helm for feral druids
Even the 2% crit trinket was great
you still use some azerite sacrificing ilvl too
Yeah, sure, I get that
but that's an unintended consequence of terrible azerite design
Like I mainly PvP, and we've had to run m0 farming for specific traits
using items from level 53 is an unintended consequence of terrible balance design
that's been more fun in a way that doing M10 + hoping for rando drops for PvE
made it fun, though
rather than
gear matters, but ilevel generally trumps it above and beyond 15, so just hope you get lucky on stuff"
using a level 53 item is more fun
when ur lvl 60
thatm eans the lvl 53 item is overtuned
Yeah, it was, because it had a super interesting effect
yes it did more dmg
wolfshead helm was level 40, and was BiS until WOTLK for feral druids
It was just .... interesting
felt like an RPG
why would u equip it otherwise
same happens with azerite pieces
yeah, for sure
so you enjoyed back then something that is happening right now
in an rpg u equip better gear to get better
mmmm, to a degree
On my warrior my 385 bad stat azerite stuff still outweighs BiS stat 340 azerite
in dnd a +3 greatsword is better than a +1 greatsword
then you just dont like the way it is presented to you
Yeah, I guess I don't like the RNG of the cache system
gearing rng has been the same every expansion
and know
"yes, I now have the best weapon I can get"
rather than "oh, I got it, but it didn't warforge +10, feelsbadman"
Before I could legit have a priority system of "I want this trinket from this boss, this belt from this boss" and know exactly where and what to get and it felt good when they dropped"
Now there is that kinda, but at the back of your head you know "well it could be replaced instantly by a subpar trinket that TFs 40 ilevel higher with a socket"
so I just give up even trying
might aswell just hammer any random key
No point even looking at the loot tables
you can do the same targetting procs tbh
it's just the same as if the drop rate was lower
You are implying then that the balance of items is far better now than in the past
it is, and it's made it boring I think
To be fair i find it logical that a 40+ piece would be an upgrade no matter what
well, azerite cant forge so you can get hyped and try to fish for those pieces old style
yeah, it can't, but with the embargo on azerite from M+ I can't really do that
its the same lockout as in vanilla
I got a nice 385 piece from PvP though
you have 1 chance a week
azerite works like raid trinkets tbh
Yeah but I can't target a specific piece
I get 2 lockouts with gladiator gear too
2 x 385
you go to X boss and kill it hoping it will drop
Yeah, ofc
but the cache is from any dungeon
the cache is just one extra casino roll
yeah, for sure, but then I do the dungeon
get a 370 piece with BiS stats
get a 385 piece from cache that is marginally worse traits but sims higher due to better secondary (heed my call or something, say) and more main stat
doesn't really feel good
more like "oh ok sim says it better"
It's just like a random BoE you'd loot
It's just my take
i see it as "oh more ilvl it gotta be more powerful"
Yeah, I wish they'd remove WF/TF
Imagine the cache as a random, guaranteed 1 time a week, BoE you get while questing
same feeling
I just cant wait to see what trash I get in my chest from +11 week.
well I would get a better feeling from a BoE
I can make bank from that
exactly, same
the first week I had 2 x 385 pieces that were side grades lol
the first cache
the thing is, if they lift the embargo on azerite in M+
why would you do heroic raiding
I can see why they've done it
Go back to MoP style looting with conquest vendors, justice tokens etc, raid tier sets
It was great
Then they got a hardon for RNG and added more layers of RNG
you do heroic raiding to gear for mythic raiding
mythic base ilvl is 385
yeah, I know
So, you could gear for mythic from mythic +
if you had 375 ilevel from M+ versus 375 from heroic raiding
what's the difference
Yeah, for sure
except M+ and PvP don't offer azerite
apart from 1 cache each per week, with a tiny % drop
so you can't targetted farm azerite from those two sources of gear
I'm ranting I know, I just really think adopting a diablo system of gearing is really bad for WoW
Like I bet there's some statistcal BS that it's more efficient to farm 6 keys at +3 and hope for TF than it is to farm 10 keys over at +1 or something
Due to the extra loot, the increased chance of TF over enough runs outweighs the higher base from M10
because you're gonna go +3 every run, vs +2, or even 0 if it's a hard week of affixes for that particular Mythic
iirc at the end of legion the chance of the titanforging increased with keystone difficulty
also the chances of dropping an extra item
ah, interesting
yeha but I guess it's like diablo where sure, higher difficulty improves drop chances, but there's a sweet spot for difficulty vs clearspeed
I mean, in some ways its great, it makes all content relevant, but I liked having loot identity and BiS lists personally
yeah, exactly
and people keep trying to explain why that view is wrong or somethign
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he doesn't feel so good
anyone else play ape escape as a kid and then see this thing
I play ape escape everyday on this discord
rata2ille
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You guys need christ
its ok

for once
@vague copper sleep

ding dong
you slept already?
Its the morning!!!!
what time is it
good boy corejo
me irl
the only shitpost i have is Ion with a big brain π€
no like
Why do you have
I have a history degree. so I don't do anything
im at uni atm, waiting for my next lecture in 1 hour @vague copper
Unlucky
my work is finished, so im hee waitign
I help with a route a few nights a week atm
I used to make a little money on my youtube channel
its in dutch
but that was years ago now
so what about you
ShΓ€dman
@vivid oxide ok thats a good 1
wat
well
here is discordl ink
apparently
not clicking on that clickbait
i wanted to link fortnite funniest moments
wrong link
yes
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already?
got lots of things to do
@main trout
I unironically listen to the themesong of drake and josh
mfw getting to switch back to warrior in Uldir
what is this even supposed to be
Outdated meme-cancer would be the TL;DR of it
the only thing i understand is the tendril of ghuun thing
all are references to nsfw things
that's gay af

thatsthejoke.png
oh
you guys post such low quality normie memes it's hard to tell
shit I didn't see the iq emote before the post
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I dont think its too normie i think ur just dumb and dont wanna admit it
Some say we flew too close to the sun. Some say we lost our wings. They're wrong...
so
i have this bet going on
with one of my roomies
that i'll have sriracha with everything i eat
excluding like, yogurt and cereal and icecream
i forgot my sriracha bottle at work last night
and she wouldn't let me use her bottle unless her husband put it on my noodles
he put on
1/4th the bottle
tl;dr i've gone to the bathroom 4 times today and they all hurt
so
i have this bet going on
with one of my roomies
that i'll have sriracha with everything i eat
excluding like, yogurt and cereal and icecream
i forgot my sriracha bottle at work last night
and she wouldn't let me use her bottle unless her husband put it on my noodles
he put on
1/4th the bottle
tl;dr i've gone to the bathroom 4 times today and they all hurt
so
I have this bet going on
with one of my roomies
that I'll have dick with everything I eat
same @random summit
your clapped
so
i have this bet going on
with one of my roomies
that i'll have sriracha with everything i eat
excluding like, yogurt and cereal and icecream
i forgot my sriracha bottle at work last night
and she wouldn't let me use her bottle unless her husband put it on my noodles
he put on
1/4th the bottle
tl;dr i've gone to the bathroom 4 times today and they all hurt
F for your butthole dude
cucked
yo, can anyone tell me if legion violet hold bosses swap weekly or daily on hc?
thanks π
lfg for hogger
that doesnt look very enjoyable
no problem just get Will Smith and Martin Lawrence.
You're right
I should get a coke with my nuggies.
yes
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So all they did was rate the app one star to try to reduce its ratings? People actually found that noteworthy? Are people so fucking clueless that they don't know that they're way more normies that'll still watch CNN?
In comparison to cicada and the Shia LaBeouf CTF that was a total snoozefest
unironically using normie
have you tried turning it off and on again?
Anyone know what +10 boosts sell for?
aight
You're not EU
true
This week is fine
is kinda poop
Wat
nice
My guild told me they want a spriest, enh shaman, or wind walker instead of arms on our mythic raid team
Please explain
potential buffs 
and you want a priest for dispelling adds on zul
enh shaman dunno
WW gives the buff and Priest for Zul yeah
Shamy could also be for Zul ?!?
Maybe you just have 0 shaman and like 4 warr or w/e
Dispel
Nice one
Fast kill
#485607024172728321 @gilded sail
my motto
so you are gay
50%
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looks cramped.
Now we can ALL see Trumps twitter feed in real time! hazzah!
NO
is this leading to moth erotica? lol
It was my imperative to post this.
sure
Lol what happened in the US
With 300+ million ppl, nice
was it like "Hi, nuke inc. Pls hide"
or " NUKE RUNN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
Nah that was Hawaii my guy
Anyone playing mtg arena
thought of a funny joke, might post it on reddit if you guys think its funny
you know the npc is drustavar that says "the only good witch is a dead witch"?
what if he said "the only good witch is a sandwich" hahaha
npc is a little on the larger side btw hahaha
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boo
@thyme



@gilded sail
i am officially
the fastest typer in malaysian
for the past 24 hours
Gay
true
I remember watching tyler1 play that and get really mad
















