protection

[sweet summit]

oh :/

[honest plinth]

You can pick whatever you want. Just dont cry here later. Bye. Ty.

[mellow patio]

Since prot is about defense should I take the heal off dw

🏃

[jagged pier]

I wont run indom then as it about defence ill run NS

[scarlet sparrow]

Defense

[strong forum]

You guys made him leave...

You proud of yourself?

[jagged pier]

eh?

[sweet summit]

no im still here :/

[strong forum]

Unlugg

[modern brook]

fuck

[mellow patio]

Wonder if I’ll ever leave

[jagged pier]

if you cant take the heat dont be in the kitchen

[mellow patio]

What if I am cooking up a cold soup

[strong forum]

Once leech gets removed from the game

So will hawgz

[jagged pier]

well thats just wrong on so many lvls imo I know it is an actual thing but bleh soup in general why do ppl want flavoured water

[strong forum]

Soup is great wtf do you mean

[jagged pier]

I'll allow one soup and its one I had in iceland and is wasnt soup i had like a whole leg of lamb in my bowl. but they called it soup

[strong forum]

I should buy a bunch of soups again..

[mellow patio]

Make soup you animal

Don’t buy it

[jagged pier]

I mean its your food, not mine

[strong forum]

Wdym make

I'm as lazy as it gets

[open monolith]

Kyrian is best because they have best transmogs and mounts

And they aren't dead druids or edge lords

[uneven mason]

Do we get a Swolkin mount?

[jagged pier]

thats wrong sock

[uneven mason]

otherwise, forget it

[mellow patio]

Yeah that’s why soup is good cause you just throw shit in a pot and walk away

[open monolith]

And they are SUPER hip with the times and support transgenders

[strong forum]

Yeah, I throw in the instant soup mix, preferably with noodles.

Boom

Chicken noodle soup

[open monolith]

Tomato soup best soup

[mellow patio]

If I could ride the steward kyrian would be a banger

[sweet summit]

||i wish i was a soup so nome would slurp me 😳 ||

[strong forum]

[open monolith]

The tomato soup from Panera? Omfg so good

[strong forum]

Pov of slurp

[mellow patio]

First of all

Why would you set foot in a panera

[open monolith]

Don't be that edgy kid who pretends to not like something just because it's popular

Panera's food is great, if a little expensive

[mellow patio]

Panera is popular??

Where?

[open monolith]

See my previous response

About not being an edgelord

[uneven mason]

wat

[mellow patio]

Panera is not popular you dunce lmao it’s a chain so it has a dedicated fan base so if anything that makes you the edge lord

Fanboy

[uneven mason]

Panera Bread is $15 cardboard

[mellow patio]

If you love Panera so much why don’t you MARRY IT

[uneven mason]

Wait no, Cardboard has more flavor

[open monolith]

Lol, i see the high schoolers aren't in class this morning

O/

[mellow patio]

Sock I thought you were a man of taste

[sweet summit]

what even is a panera

[mellow patio]

Turns out you actually have zero taste

[open monolith]

It's a fast-casual bakery / deli type place

[uneven mason]

Its a glorified bread shop that serves tasteless "Green Sourced" food

[sweet summit]

[uneven mason]

Hipster central

[jagged pier]

[mellow patio]

I bet they even have free WiFi

[uneven mason]

they do

[jagged pier]

foreign stuff going on need to take notes

[uneven mason]

course so does mcdonalds so thats a low bar to clear.

TFW we live in a country where my car is a free wifi hotspot

[open monolith]

You know what hill I'll die on?

[mellow patio]

The Panera bread hill

[open monolith]

Carl's Jr is better than in and out

Fight me idiots

[strong forum]

I like Maggi.

[sweet summit]

who is carl

[mellow patio]

Ok that is just flat out stupidity

Carl’s junior is dumpster slime

[open monolith]

I've never actually had in and out, I just like to stir the pot

[strong forum]

That's a bunch of USA stuff I think

[mellow patio]

In and out bad

[sweet summit]

NA

nuke NA

[open monolith]

They're building an in and out near me pretty soon

[mellow patio]

But Carl’s junior will make your colon exit your body

[open monolith]

I've got all the great restaurants near me, it's wonderful

[modern brook]

this argument is analogous to a bunch of ppl screaming "I'd rather eat poop than vomit"

[open monolith]

I have 2 Cane's within 1.5 miles

An L&L Hawaiian

Like 20 pho, ramen, sushi, and chinese places

A new york style by the slice pizza place

[mellow patio]

And a Panera bread

[open monolith]

Fuck yeah

And a kneader's

[cosmic canyon]

@CherryBomb#1100 I agree. Defenses > Offenses.

[mellow patio]

Beta mentality

Miss me with that

[sweet summit]

big dam>smol dam

[mellow patio]

Big dam = big brain

[open monolith]

Bad mans can't hurt you when bad mans are dead

Booming Voice + Ravager + Avatar

All the rage

All the damages

[sweet summit]

i think you misspelled dragon roar

[open monolith]

Fuck dragon's roar

[mellow patio]

Yeah I don’t know what BV is

[sweet summit]

yeah ok youre on my list now

[open monolith]

It's a stupid button I hate it

[jagged pier]

well fuk you then socks

[mellow patio]

Dragons roar is alpha

[strong forum]

Dragon Roar aka, lemme crit for 10k uncapped aoe

[mellow patio]

You charge in and YELL LOUDLY

[strong forum]

[jagged pier]

^^ to all 3 of thoughs messages

[cosmic canyon]

Ni haoooo

Or, magyar vagy

Or curva

[sweet summit]

what

[mellow patio]

That seemed like a waste of your time to type that

[cosmic canyon]

Magyar vagy? Are you hungarian/do you speak Hungarian afaik.

People asked me that all the time on "hunscalp" aka bloodscalp back in the day. Somehow they all decided to play on that server.

Bazd Meg afaik is fck u

[open monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/me-looking-for-who-tf-asked-looking-around-kid-kazoo-kid-gif-17654948

[cosmic canyon]

You look sane indeed Mr sock.

[grand drum]

Me looking for tf asked to play bv over dragon roar

[jagged pier]

if you run TGV you do 🤔

[grand drum]

Is it shadowlands yet? No

[open monolith]

Dragon's roar = moar buttons

Less buttons is good

I want the game to play itself while I watch

[strong forum]

BV is more rage

[jagged pier]

no if you dont pick it

[open monolith]

Boomer Voice is good for my Boomer Fingers

[brittle owl]

I want the game to play itself while I watch
@open monolith then roll monk LMAO

gottem

[uneven mason]

I'm leveling a brm right now, did they actually remove ironskin brew?

or is my UI just being funky

[brittle owl]

they did

[open monolith]

Isn't iron skin brew their main form of mitigation?

[brittle owl]

you just maintenance shuffle, which is basically isb

by pressing rotation

isb is gone

shuffle is in

[open monolith]

Wtf...

Did they take out purifying brew?

[uneven mason]

No purifying is the only brew

[brittle owl]

can't get more autopilot than that boomer man

purify and celestial brew

[uneven mason]

you literally don't have ironskin, so they removed even THAT portion of the skill floor

[open monolith]

I loved brewmaster in Legion

That sounds terrible

[brittle owl]

i have heard

[uneven mason]

Officially BrM skill floor is now in the sublevels

[brittle owl]

staunch brm haters

actually like current brm

but i still hate it

[uneven mason]

Its WoD BrM

Always on mitigation + self healing

[open monolith]

Big yikes

[uneven mason]

we've gone full circle and created a teflon brain tank

[open monolith]

Oh I do have the mage tower skin and it is pretty dope, so maybe I'll go check it out

[brittle owl]

tfw WoD is as far away as MoP was in legion

[open monolith]

The Warrior Mage tower skin is too bony

[uneven mason]

Only people who complain about mage tower skins are those that do not have them (and druids, but they get a dance now)

[brittle owl]

fuck druids

[worldly osprey]

@hasty crypt

#showtooltip
/cast [@mouseover,harm,nodead] Charge; [@mouseover,help,nodead] [help] Intervene; Charge

[open monolith]

I definitely have the warrior MT skins

I love that I get a flail

[keen yacht]

I find adding a [@fluid parrotget,help,nodead] to the Charge of you macro helpful

[open monolith]

I just don't love the bone motif

[worldly osprey]

@keen yacht it already does that

err indirectly

if ur targeting a friendly target it casts Intervene instead of Charge

[keen yacht]

For the 1st part I use [@mouseover,help,nodead][@fluid parrotget,help,nodead] Charge and find it helpful pulling mobs with spread out casters

[round oasis]

wouldn't it need to be "harm" instead of "help"?

[sand condor]

is best served cold a trash talent

[tardy parcel]

tl;dr answer is yes 😦

BV or DR are the way

[last mason]

how much haste you guys have

[undone sun]

at least 2

[sand condor]

not enough ):

34%

[gusty magnet]

Y’all think welll be a Meta tank at any point in SL?

[honest plinth]

Let me ask the spirits of ancient warriors

[gusty magnet]

Please

Ty

[mellow patio]

Spirit here, yes.

[honest plinth]

We have shield at least ye

[gusty magnet]

Oh. We don’t fury tank anymore.. meh.

[cosmic canyon]

I wish they increased revenge hitbox by say 20-50%

most of the time it feels like you swing in the air

[keen yacht]

yes @round oasis my bad

[honest plinth]

Stay closer :D

[mellow patio]

Quit standing so far from the mobs then

[honest plinth]

Dont be a pussy

[mellow patio]

Yeah what are you kiting or something

[gusty magnet]

Big dick pulls only.

[mellow patio]

Who are all these uncommon names

I like it

[gusty magnet]

Wooahhhhh

[civic rover]

are you the virgin kiter or the chad face tanker

[turbid cargo]

everything that isn't face tanking is a healer mechanic

[honest plinth]

You cant facetank some mobs btw

[mellow patio]

Wrong

Face tank all mobs

Even if it kills you

[gusty magnet]

DAMN!! I GOTTA CHANGE MY TANK NAME TO Allenfacetanker

[tawny helm]

You can, just believe

[mellow patio]

If I am not one hit it is the healers problem

[gusty magnet]

Bc all I do is pull the whole room and hope for the bed t

Best

[mellow patio]

I like you

[undone sun]

uh oh, hawgz's seal of approval

[mellow patio]

That is coveted

A badge of honor

Wear it proudly

[gusty magnet]

Let’s go hawgz you make me wanna level my prot warrior

[mellow patio]

Yes

Level it

Main it

[gusty magnet]

Fuck yes

[mellow patio]

Make plebs pay

[gusty magnet]

Fuck prot pally

[mellow patio]

Yes

[honest plinth]

Idd

[cosmic canyon]

yes I'm kiting, doh.

[gusty magnet]

I’m the fucking chad now

[mellow patio]

You are

Yes

[honest plinth]

Fuck them thats right

[mellow patio]

Delete paladin you won’t

[gusty magnet]

It’s already gone

Both of them

[mellow patio]

Love to see that

Good work lad

[gusty magnet]

We don’t like no holy bitches

[mellow patio]

Yes

Fkn pink nerds

@chilly brook nerd

[chilly brook]

@mellow patio geek

[honest plinth]

@cosmic canyon well you are kiting like few secs anyway, so Just dont use it

[cosmic canyon]

I'll unbind it

[mellow patio]

Geeked out on rage

[cosmic canyon]

good idea

[mellow patio]

If you are kiting in prepatch I riot

Eyir socks

[gilded tendon]

🧦

[mellow patio]

Thanks

[gusty magnet]

If I’m dpsing and I see my tank running from mobs or only pull small amounts. I take it into my own hands and pull the rest

[honest plinth]

It seems like you are not playing rn

[mellow patio]

Me?

[tawny helm]

This is how you tank, this is how you fall

[honest plinth]

Yes

[tawny helm]

https://tenor.com/view/300-shields-ready-ready-frank-miller-spartans-gif-5492752

[mellow patio]

I log on once per week to obtain my nzoth gold for the people who still buy the mount

That counts

[honest plinth]

Nope

[mellow patio]

While also leveling a marksmanship hunter named bhole

You do NOT want to mess with me

[honest plinth]

Try not to kite in 27 key or so

[tawny helm]

bunny hole

[honest plinth]

Youll be dead on few seconds on some pulls

[gusty magnet]

https://tenor.com/view/-gif-3606829

[mellow patio]

I might die

[gusty magnet]

That’s how you tank

[mellow patio]

But at least I ain’t a beta

[gusty magnet]

If you know you know

[honest plinth]

Ok keep trolling nice one

[mellow patio]

Keep trolling brother are you new here I have never stopped

[undone sun]

hawgz is the local troll

[mellow patio]

Useful advice begins when SL launches

[undone sun]

nothing new

[mellow patio]

Thyme be fair to me I am helpful when content is relevant

[honest plinth]

Im not New you are Just too high

[undone sun]

that's what they all say

[gusty magnet]

Damn. I thought you were gassing me up to play prot warrior... you were trolling the whole time.

[mellow patio]

No

That was reality

[gusty magnet]

I feel betrayed

[tawny helm]

A true warrior have to endure the painful reality

[mellow patio]

Warrior is good rn it is not painful

[gusty magnet]

Reality that we’ll never be as good as prot pally 🤮

Fucking holy cucks

[gusty magnet]

Lmfaoooo

Ok buddy

I just got unbanned in there

[mellow patio]

Prot paladin is not going to be ideal for end game content

Too weak

[gusty magnet]

See

[mellow patio]

Just diving right into fel hammer with that

That’s gameplay I can respect

[gusty magnet]

If I’m being honest. I’m a prot pally main rn. But I’m trying to find a new main.. warrior was my home long ago in cata. Skullcrusher. I loved it so much. But I’m just coming back after not playing since. I’ve been playing for about 3 months again and found prot pally to be fun. I haven’t tanked with anything else yet. So I am running through discord seeing what kinds advice I can get.

I wanna push HIGH end content. I want people to see my io and be like “damn this guy is a good tank”

[tawny helm]

I was a paladin, and then I started going to the gym. And so here I am.

[uneven mason]

So Allen, Your best bet, is to find a tank and get good at it

[gusty magnet]

Not hard... I can master anything I put my mind to

[uneven mason]

Unless you're talking like, 0.1% type M+ pushes, it shouldn't matter, having a consistent team that works together well is more important

[gusty magnet]

Well

The last part got me

I have no friends on wow

[uneven mason]

If you're pugging, atm we have no idea what the FOTM will be

and even then it won't matter

[tawny helm]

btw, friend of mine is gonna play mistweaver, is it good with prot ?

[uneven mason]

since the things that set the "meta" aside are not used by 99.9% of the playerbase

MW + Prot is a good combination last I checked ( I haven't kept up with the state of MW in SL to be honest).

[gusty magnet]

Prot warrior is a faster paced tank than pally tho right

[uneven mason]

eh

We're 🚪

we mitigate like nothing else

[jagged pier]

we are all about defence

[uneven mason]

Paladins are a mix of Preemptive and reactive tank styles

about 1:1 really

Warriors are 100% preemptive

We stop damage before its damage

[gusty magnet]

They just got a damage nerf I believe

[tawny helm]

Mobs in BFA seeing a warrior, no... Not again

https://tenor.com/view/flashback-seasamestreet-gif-10051490

[uneven mason]

We're weaker than our BFA build, but most everyone is

but our base armor is jacked through the sky

an AFK warrior equal ilvl has more armor than a druid with 1 stack of IF

[gusty magnet]

Yea of course. Bc Azerite trusts

Traits

[uneven mason]

nah because they ripped the nuts off of Anger Management

used to be we could have a major CD rolling every 15seconds

[gusty magnet]

Damn

[uneven mason]

now we're a bit slower.

[jagged pier]

yes because they added TGV back

like in m+ you still get is back alot okay loose LS wasnt the best

but you can still take bolster

and get like 75% blocked hits

[uneven mason]

We could roll Last stand every 50 seconds, Demo shout was 70%~ uptime, Shield wall every 1min 15

but now Last stand is 2min flat

from Bolster

[strong forum]

Rn in keys I have 60-70% block uptime and thats with greeding LS usage

[uneven mason]

Demo shout will be up for every pull though

which is great

[strong forum]

So it's not that bad

[uneven mason]

yeah no, we needed to be brought back down a notch

[jagged pier]

block uptime

[gusty magnet]

So, I guess my question is, everyone dies... the boss has 8%health are we gonna be able to finish them off. Or do we not have any self sustain to get Health back

[jagged pier]

yes we have execute

[sweet summit]

depends

[strong forum]

Depends on the boss

Buttons available

Key level

Current hp

[gusty magnet]

Well I guess that matters for all tanks lol.

[strong forum]

Yes

[jagged pier]

well more for us we dont heal

[sweet summit]

what did you expect

[gusty magnet]

No tanks gonna survive a 16+ key

[sweet summit]

what

[strong forum]

👀

[gusty magnet]

What

Am I dumb

[sweet summit]

yes

[jagged pier]

[gusty magnet]

Ok

Mean

[strong forum]

People are doing 33s right now

So.

[sweet summit]

🤷‍♀️

[strong forum]

Yeah

[gusty magnet]

...

[jagged pier]

do you mean 25

[gusty magnet]

I mean when everyone dies’n

Not with people alive turd

[sweet summit]

well i just soloed last 50% of a ML 20 last boss

[jagged pier]

^^

[tawny helm]

Nobody:
Gnome Blood DK: Hello ol' chump

[sweet summit]

idk prepatch scaling is dumb anyway

[strong forum]

Below 20something keys I think you can solo entire bosses

In pre-patch

Except maybe rezan

[gusty magnet]

Pre patch everything is crazy

Prot pallys can lead dps rn

[uneven mason]

A smart warrior can probably finish off a boss at low HP no matter what key. Course if your entire group is gibbing...might be another problem.

Ravager and kite

Win

[strong forum]

Through indom you have decently good self sustain as long as you can generate rage

[gusty magnet]

What race do y’all pick

[uneven mason]

Orc

[strong forum]

I'm vulpera

[sweet summit]

belf

[uneven mason]

Nom is a furry paladin

[strong forum]

I'm a chad

Thanks

[sweet summit]

X

[uneven mason]

furry p a l a d i n

[strong forum]

Ain't no pally going no where

[uneven mason]

the most unchad being in the universe

[gusty magnet]

Belf good for every class lmao

Ain’t no why I’m taking a raccoon into war

[strong forum]

I ain't playing pally so idk where you got that from ikari

I take offense to that

[gusty magnet]

I’m taking a orc or blef

Belf

[strong forum]

Atleast pick female orc

Male orcs are boring

[gusty magnet]

Why female?!

They are huge I love it

[tawny helm]

A true chad choose tauren

[strong forum]

Tauren is even worse

[gusty magnet]

If I’m being honest. Human warriors look the best

[strong forum]

Terrible terrible proportions

[tawny helm]

if you were alliance, you would have played dwarf

[uneven mason]

Actually

[graceful bloom]

tauren or zanda

[strong forum]

Dwarf is bis

[tawny helm]

Tauren and Dwaves are the chaddest race of azeroth

[graceful bloom]

dwarf if ally

[strong forum]

Zanda and tauren have dogshit animations

[uneven mason]

I mean, when you come down to it, Rocket Raccoon

[strong forum]

Don't @ me

[uneven mason]

I'd totally use him as a combat ally over a goblin

[civic rover]

i'm playing a dorf

[tawny helm]

@strong forum 😡

[uneven mason]

jfc Zandalari and nightborn animations are like the worst I've ever seen

they took the male NE skeleton and put a stick up HIS ass

[graceful bloom]

i loved watching my tauren thunder clap over and over during lust and haste procs

[tawny helm]

https://tenor.com/view/gachi-oh-shit-aam-sorry-gachimuchi-gif-13510847

[strong forum]

It gets bigger when I pull on it

[sweet summit]

[tawny helm]

funnily, it's an amazing warrior quote

[civic rover]

if you tank as a female belf you're a degenerate change my mind

[sweet summit]

i am

what are you going to do about it

[uneven mason]

Femorc alltheway

[tawny helm]

@civic rover preach brother

[strong forum]

If you tank, you're a degenerate change my mind

:dab:

[tawny helm]

[civic rover]

HOW CAN YOU PLAY AS A SKIMPY LITTLE ZELDA AND NOT FEEL WRONG ABOUT IT

ESPECIALLY AS A TANK

i will never understand

[sweet summit]

i do not feel

[strong forum]

Do you like looking at sweaty male muscles instead?

[civic rover]

yes

sexy dorf muscles

[sweet summit]

STEAMY HOT BIG MEN

[strong forum]

So you are factually geh

10 BIG HOT MEN

[civic rover]

nome i'm a manager at a hippie grocery store of course i'm gay

[strong forum]

Geezus

You're truly a lost cause

[civic rover]

always have been

[strong forum]

Lemme guess, overpriced as shit too?

[civic rover]

actually not really

prices are pretty comparable to most other places

but some stuff is pretty over the top

[sweet summit]

go back to #promotion

[strong forum]

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[civic rover]

[strong forum]

But hey atleast you know it

[civic rover]

just gotta figure out how to tell my gf

[strong forum]

ohno

[undone sun]

hmmm

[proven breach]

Gobo fem prot! Actually no can't play Gobo sorry

[mellow patio]

Female Tauren goddess prot

[proven breach]

I was male Tauren from vanilla until 8.2 then got tired of TD and WM as tauren

Went female BE right after a TD run

[strong forum]

female tauren is acceptable

they have good animations and better proportions

[brittle owl]

male tauren for that long dick style

[strong forum]

https://tenor.com/view/mad-tyrone-serious-long-dick-style-gif-16928774

[gusty magnet]

lvling my warrior now

lfg

[kind prairie]

Question on HMT: is there a way to see how much damage rugged tenacity mitigates? Trying to see if it's worth being HMT or regular tauren. I think I like stomp better than charge stun.

I figure if anyone can figure out mitigation it's y'all. Haha.

[strong forum]

0.5%

there ya go

[kind prairie]

Ha. Thanks.

[strong forum]

defensively vulpera has the high ground

[kind prairie]

That's a solid point. I've considered swapping my warrior to vulp anyways, as I find them very fun

[tawny helm]

dwarf be like: large dick style

[strong forum]

in a ML20, ive taken a total of 2.5mil dmg and vulpera racial mitigated 159k, thats like 7% dmg less taken

[tawny helm]

damn that's huge

[strong forum]

in UR25 i took 3.2mil dmg and vulpera racial mitigated 125k

since ML has such a huge target count, it mitigates more

and the on use is like a 10% heal aswell, but i rarely use it

[kind prairie]

Dang that's compelling.

Thanks for the stats @strong forum

!

[strong forum]

yes

soon ill have all of prot converted

[kind prairie]

I mean I've already got like 3 of them. What's one more.... Haha

[honest plinth]

Idk how will you solo bosses not Just rezan there are few strong ones

[strong forum]

a few bosses

and in low keys

they do nothing

[honest plinth]

I mean 20s

[strong forum]

yeah 20s already do nothing

[honest plinth]

Wanna see how will you survive in 2nd boss in KR for example

[strong forum]

lemme quote again

a few bosses
@strong forum

obv theres exceptions

duh

[honest plinth]

Idk i think you can solo few bosses

Too many deadly mechanics

[strong forum]

theres atleast 1 boss per dungeon

[honest plinth]

Which one you can solo in sots

[strong forum]

eh

if you pull enough smallies you can solo first prolly

[honest plinth]

You will be dead after your reflect ends

[strong forum]

?

[honest plinth]

On 2nd phase

After split

[strong forum]

depends

[honest plinth]

:)

[proven breach]

I tried vulpera and scrapped it after a siege with los issues on 3rd boss

With my healer

[maiden ravine]

lol

[open monolith]

are there any must-have warrior glyphs, especially prot?

[sweet summit]

thunderclap thunder

charge fire

execute crit crow

deep wounds bleed

[open monolith]

excellent

im guessing there is nothing useful like "intimidating shout doesn't fear anymore, just makes them cower"

god I miss useful glyphs 😦

[sweet summit]

na its just cosmetic

[open monolith]

glyphs were such a great system, so was reforging

so sad they took those out

[last mason]

is sphere of supression worth this week over aegis

[sweet summit]

aegis is super strong atm, heals for a fuckton

[crimson mulch]

yea it's like 3rd or 4th on my healing usually, depending on pull sizes for the dungeon

wtb leech

[crimson mulch]

you want it up most of the time you're being hit by things, put it up quite early in the pull

no, i've just been playing a lot of it for M+ since there isn't much else to do on live rn

and my group needed a tank

[honest plinth]

im sure it cant be 3rd on healing and even 4th

[crimson mulch]

indomitable is a solid 2nd, 3rd depends on your azerite traits

[honest plinth]

3rd is shell

[gusty magnet]

Warriors are the best. Let’s hope they get buffed boys

[cinder haven]

is never surrender really that bad? even though the buff to the maximum amount of ignore pain?

[modern brook]

some ppl have reported good results w/ it on super high keys

i personally remain unconvinced

indom is just super consistent

[cinder haven]

i think so too, moreso with, fueled by violence endurance soulbind conduit. It really compensates for our spec's lack of self sustain.

the trickle healing helps our healers a bunch.

[crimson mulch]

might give it a try sometime but since switching to 3x impassive visage and a little more leech indom has been amazing so don't really want to switch off

[obsidian cairn]

We going for ilvl now or stats and what is a reasonable ilvl upgrade to trade out for stats

[cosmic canyon]

@last mason sphere, cns & aegis. What you running?

Strength is really strong @obsidian cairn you socketed both str gems?

[obsidian cairn]

I mean I had 2 gems my 5th alt and I came late so I didn't really get gems.

[last mason]

@cosmic canyon aegis, crucible, cns rn

crucible does so much dmg rn

[reef rivet]

I cant wait to go Aredenweald

[buoyant patrol]

Hey guys

Was tanking FH 25 and all good till last boss
Dps got wrecked by wind blades

Any tips on how to deal with that?

[jagged pier]

you need to avoid wind blades

[cosmic canyon]

Akatre there is a route in play atm that clears the entire boss area before fighting the boss.

Have your ranged players spread out at range and dodge the blades & your melee to jump to range when they appear

Don't forget to cc the suicide bomber

[buoyant patrol]

Thanks keening I’ll look into that

[alpine stag]

I run never surrender since im still stacking a lot of vers (scales ignore pain) - i get a lot of sealing via 10% leech on gear. Also with Lucid minor, I always can put up a lot of ignore pains. I feel i am in more control and it compensates the lower block uptime we have currently. Getting a 30k ignore pain feels rly good

Indom was doing a lot of healing for me b4, but with leech and 2x impassive visage, i felt I didn't need it, and since the switch i feel a lot more tanky

[ebon hound]

[mellow patio]

[jagged pier]

[brittle owl]

are you ok @alpine stag buddy

[jagged pier]

" I feel i am in more control and it compensates the lower block uptime we have currently." thats why you take bolster

[strong forum]

And also haste

Alot of haste

[brittle owl]

nah fam

new strat

stack vers for maximum DOOR

never use SB

use only revenj

[strong forum]

Legion hooo

[mellow patio]

REVENJ

[jagged pier]

can we stop using this emote it makes me think of linkin park now

[brittle owl]

you tried

so hard

BUT IN THE END

IT DOESNT EVEN MATTER

[jagged pier]

[ionic fern]

[alpine stag]

well I guess people run what they are more comfortable with - initialy went full haste in prepatch, felt even with block that i was taking heavy dmg in 27/28/29 keys

I tried this out and its worked wonders for me

didn't feel that I needed more self healing from indom as i had other sources

[jagged pier]

[alpine stag]

love the mature and constructive response tho

[jagged pier]

there not much more to say than NS is just not worth it ever. so I dunno what you want to hear. play a really bad talent have fun no ones stopping you

[alpine stag]

to each his own

[strong forum]

There's been countless discussions about NS, not everybody wants to have the it over and over again, so it's not getting a massive response

If it works for you, great, but it's not really considered a good talent.

[sick sentinel]

hi guys I'm looking for a macro that includes the charge and intervention while differentiating the targets thank you

[jagged pier]

oh not this channel

hang on

#showtooltip Charge
/cast [target=mouseover,help,exists,nodead]Intervene;Intervene
/cast [target=target,harm,exists,nodead]Charge;Charge

[sick sentinel]

thanks ^^

[cosmic canyon]

@alpine stag ignore the fanboi mentality. If you tested both and this works better for you, at least I appreciate you sharing it with me. Perspective is always nice

[alpine stag]

Ye thanks, and I appreciate that this may have been discussed before, I was just responding to someone asking about it a few hours before

[strong forum]

@ionic fern shouldnt lucid major now prove to be bis parsing talent for that juicy execute spam?

Coral + lucid. We arms warri now

[ebon hound]

[obsidian girder]

Hello. I played a bit prot before prepatch. Anything new rotationwise or mainly the same ?

[jagged pier]

[uneven mason]

@obsidian girder Revenge is our AE threat builder (TC reduced damage on 2ndary targets) and devastator is the go to talent atm so Devastate is gone from the rotation (freeing up GCDs)

[obsidian girder]

Okay

[worldly osprey]

@sick sentinel optimized version

#showtooltip
/cast [@mouseover,harm,nodead] Charge; [@mouseover,help,nodead] [help] Intervene; Charge

If you don't want to be able to mouseover charge it becomes simply

#showtooltip
/cast [@mouseover,help,nodead] [help] Intervene; Charge

[woven trellis]

so

where are we about Booming voice talent vs Dragonr roar on a strict dps point of view?

considering that if i play booming voice talent ill ravager behind it

[jagged pier]

DR

[woven trellis]

i have

very low critc

if its to be taken into account

[strong forum]

Both are perfectly viable

Go with whatever you prefer

[woven trellis]

since i already have 30haste

should i go for crit gem on a strict dps point of view

[strong forum]

Get more haste then

[woven trellis]

taking dragon roar

[strong forum]

Doesn't matter really

[woven trellis]

cause of diminishing return

?

[strong forum]

What diminishing return?

[woven trellis]

10% above 30?

[strong forum]

Doesn't matter

[woven trellis]

well im just tryin to make a full dps build for doing 15s rn

im tired of pushing

[strong forum]

You lose out on 10 haste total

From 30 to 40%

10

Or well like 11

From 40 to 50 you lose out on 22ish haste

So from 30 to 50 you lose 33ish haste total. If you were to get to 50% through raw stats

[woven trellis]

yes ok about that but what about the perks of going for a bit more crit

especially considering ill take DR

i guess Haste + Crucible outweigh everything else maybe

[strong forum]

Youll crit more often and get a bit of parry, but never stop socketing haste / str

[woven trellis]

any general advice to maximize dps other than that

[strong forum]

Go full haste/crit gear, full enchant haste, force mult on weapon

Sims will come soon tm

[woven trellis]

should i favor a 130 crit haste over a 120 haste versa with socket

same question for belt

cause v ersatility also give dps so im not sure about it

about how the socket is impacting here

[strong forum]

For dps the socket outweighs the 130

[woven trellis]

even if my piece are minor haste major versa?

cause id only lose versa and very smal amount of haste to gain major crit + a bit of strength

[strong forum]

I can't answer that truly, it'll be a tiny difference at best

Just go with what you think is cooler 👍

[woven trellis]

about essence i thought about Major Lucid to spam it on last 20% of boss and execute

then vop cns and crucible

any other suggestion for dps?

[strong forum]

I'm running vop major sphere crucible cns minor

For keys

Raiding no clue, haven't raided in months

[woven trellis]

ye i dont have sphere i came back into the game late summer and didnt bother

and im talkin about keys

as well

[strong forum]

Only have R1 sphere

It's enough

But yeh. Aegis is also a butt load of stats. Can alternatively run lucid minor

But you won't get value out of lucid major in 15s

[woven trellis]

why

[strong forum]

Stuff dies in 0.2 seconds

[jagged pier]

raiding is still bfa build as far as im aware,

[woven trellis]

its tyranical week

planned on using it

on boss

to spam exec

or revenge on trash

big pull

could be fun

[jagged pier]

nah you should probs un ancient flame it pumps

[woven trellis]

i run it aswell

[jagged pier]

as major

[woven trellis]

meh

we dont have that much gcd to give

i think

[strong forum]

Cof major doesn't do as much

It's the minor itself that pumps

[woven trellis]

ye

[strong forum]

Way more than anything

[woven trellis]

lets try this new pumping build

in a 23

kekw

[strong forum]

23s are chill

But it's tyra bolstering necro

So.. You're gonna get shit results at best

I'm not looking forward to ANY keys this week

[woven trellis]

yeah

its depressing

[woven trellis]

so yeah

that wasnt fun

tbh

i think im just going to get back to the mitigation build

for this week

cause i just cant stand in shit

and its very very sad

😦

[zenith bridge]

Someone knows where I can find guidelines on how and when to use shield wall ?

[jagged pier]

literally when your about to take big damage

or when you have literally nothing else to smooth damage

[zenith bridge]

Yes but most of the time shield block will do a better job isn't it ?

[jagged pier]

well yes thats you I said when you literally have nothing else, and it also depends on if its magic damage

cause if it is SB isnt gunna help you

as prot isnt reactive you kind of need to plan when you want to use it

like if the boss is gunna use a big magic attack or your high stacks use SW to help mitigate

m+ its a bit different

I tend to save is for big pulls for m+

[zenith bridge]

Ok thanks for your answer that's what I wanted to know

I didn't understand how to use it because shield block is better except for magic.

[uneven mason]

You're confusing 2 things

SB is active mitigation (frequent use damage reduction)

SHield wall is a survival cooldown

(they stack)

[jagged pier]

if your really good an know how to plan you can even work SW into your active mitigation and still have it when you need it to reduce the dmg you take further, and smooth it out

[zenith bridge]

Yes ok, but for exemple in raid do I need to use SW over SB for the special tank ability ?

[uneven mason]

Knowing is half the battle (for playing prot warrior)

If its blockable damage - use both

[jagged pier]

well really you would use both for a big tank abbility becuase the boss will be meleeing you anyway

[uneven mason]

If not blockable - use SW/Demo/IP

Last stand can be used preemptive or reactively (it heals)

[jagged pier]

I mean you hopefully mostly always have SB and IP you need to make the choice of when to use the others

but thats when your actively tanking as you will be being melee'd

[zenith bridge]

Ok now I understand, I think, thanks

[jagged pier]

you just need to remeber if your playing prot was have no way of healing the damage back ourselfs so you have to prepare for the big damage thats to come

[uneven mason]

Take a look at the guides in the pins

[jagged pier]

if you fail to prepare be prepared to fail

[uneven mason]

more indepth there

[zenith bridge]

Yes I know I need to plan ahead but I also need to know which ability is to be used depending on the situation.

[jagged pier]

well honestly if thats the question its only use SB on physical/blockable damage

otherwise you can use anything else but SR which is magic only

[sick sentinel]

@sick sentinel optimized version

#showtooltip
/cast [@mouseover,harm,nodead] Charge; [@mouseover,help,nodead] [help] Intervene; Charge

@worldly osprey merci a toi ^^

[worldly osprey]

de rien

[jagged pier]

[sweet summit]

icy veins owns

[jagged pier]

its icy veins but its the best one

[sweet summit]

wowhead also kinda owns

vita+scale

[jagged pier]

^^

[opaque dawn]

je spam

je spam

je spam

je spam

[jagged pier]

[sweet summit]

?

it is, but its int

we dont have sims yet

but its probably better than scale and/or vita

nzoth is good if youre looking for a defensive trinket

[uneven mason]

"defensive trinkets" in 2020

[sweet summit]

?

[honest plinth]

nzoth trinket is bis

[strong forum]

i have concluded to prefer vita over compendium

@sweet summit thoughts

[sweet summit]

why

go full send with 3 CR

[strong forum]

why not

cant

[sweet summit]

oh

[last mason]

whats more damage, that or gs

cr or gs

[strong forum]

more dmg is gs

[sweet summit]

gs

[strong forum]

but 3x CR should be massive aswell

ontop of the 4.5% dmg reduction

since 1 CR is like 7% more revenge dmg

[sweet summit]

i guess ill have to try 3x bom 3x cr

o nvm i cant

:sadge:

[strong forum]

ye theres no helmet

[sweet summit]

there is the pvp head

thought i had it

but i dont

[last mason]

for damage do you guys use dr and ravager on cd with gs

or line dr up at the end of ravager

[sweet summit]

depends

if you can hit more targets with DR you pick that over waiting for GS stacks

but for ST and low target count i am not very sure what the play is

i am bad at math

and more casts=more damage ofc

so if youll end up losing a lot of DR casts by delaying it, its lost damage

[strong forum]

actually this week is better than expected

i thought it was bolstering

but its raging

did JY and ML 25

took way less dmg than i thought on rixxa

[sand condor]

theres's no way i am able to get into a group for nylotha, so what trinkets should i try to get instead

[sweet summit]

rezan+block

[sand condor]

AD and WM spam it is!

this is quite depressing

[cobalt breach]

soooo, wtf is up with devastate? should i even press it?

[jagged pier]

if you're running punish only when you have down time

but in pre patch we do have like a lot of extra stats youll have more down time in beta

[vocal skiff]

With harlan's higher damage in pre patch, what route do you use in FH, considering lust timings?

Last week my route was smooth, but this time I felt like I was over pulling trash because there weren't any good alternatives

Maybe lust 3 pack at the start and take the fear obelisk right away to the arena?

[chilly brook]

I've just been doing the same route
/shrug

[vocal skiff]

so not clearing harlan's area?

[chilly brook]

Nah why would you

[vocal skiff]

because people die

[chilly brook]

From what

[vocal skiff]

his sabers, it was buffed in prepatch

[chilly brook]

Haven't really had anyone die to those yet

[vocal skiff]

In a Fort 20 last week, I finished off the boss with my BDK and another party member, after using bress like 2-3 times

[surreal mesa]

Is prot getting gutted with shadowlands?

[chilly brook]

Yes go play havoc you'd be more tanky

[sand condor]

.>

they'll buff us after season one

just like in bfa

i pray every day

[surreal mesa]

Haven't played since Draenor and am getting asked why im warrior everytime i join a group? wondering if I should rethink my tank choice

[chilly brook]

Play what you like

Prot is fine

People big dumb

[surreal mesa]

Do we have an addon guide for tnaking?

[strong forum]

With harlan's higher damage in pre patch, what route do you use in FH, considering lust timings?
@vocal skiff people lust at 60

to get through the shit phase form 60to30 real quick

ah you mean total

you take 2nd pillar direct to 3rd boss, you wanna have around 65% before going to last boss

and you clear entire last boss area with all packs and everything

lust timings should be the same

[vocal skiff]

So what do you even pull around 2nd boss? And I assume you take the fear guy obelisk right away and then double back for council?

Because as I said, group lusted on skycap and I felt like waiting forever for lust

[strong forum]

no clue about that part as i havent played new FH route yet, but thats what i know

maybe check out some streamers +32s/+33s

like yumitv (growl) or luka

[buoyant patrol]

@vocal skiff I've encountered the same issue. Did it in 25, the mage accidentally BL on first pull so we had it up for 2nd boss pretty quickyl (did a couple of trash around).

But wanted to train my route in 20 as yours and did exactly what you said: take pillar to third boss did some trash there and double back to BL 2nd boss
Feels a bit clunky but dunno how to do it otherwise with this new route

[onyx vessel]

i thought challenging shout was 2mins its 4mins

[honest plinth]

@buoyant patrol thats exactly what i do on this week. Pillar to arena farm if hero is not up hero 2nd boss.

Its good if you have rogue, you can shroud out of arena and pull 2nd boss faster

[gusty magnet]

Saw warriors got a buff today

Taunt actually makes enemies attack us 😂

[open monolith]

Did it... Not?

[jolly thistle]

took way less dmg than i thought on rixxa
@strong forum yeah rixxa wasn’t actually too bad. 3rd boss ToS on 27 forced us to give up tho

There’s something seriously wrong with the scaling of the debuff

That thing

[crimson mulch]

regarding FH atm it's way easier to kill the pack in front of sweete so you can use it to spread out for the sabers, and the count in that last area is super easy to get due to 2 of the packs killing themselves

route is the same as it used to be except less trash between 2nd and 3rd boss and more pulls at the end to make up for it

lust is like first big pack, big trash pull either at start of arena or just before 2nd boss, last boss

[cosmic canyon]

Tos harder this week, or galv towers amplified on fortified week?

[mellow patio]

Galvs tuning is whack rn

Boss fucks in prepatch

[crimson mulch]

they used to be amped on fortified, not sure if they changed that with prepatch

[amber siren]

Still are afaik

[buoyant patrol]

Hey all, got a JY 26
Pretty new in tanking (started on prepatch) and with necrotic i was wondering if there was anything to consider with necrotic? Or sort of the usual stuff only?

[strong forum]

Just the usual

Don't overpull, the small slimes at gunker they apply necrotic aswell so try not to chain them into anything

[obtuse meadow]

Hey

Whats the bes BiS shoulders apart from raid ones?

[sweet summit]

Tank buster pauldrons

[cosmic canyon]

Best way to tackle this week affixes? Go clap & cns? Or just straight forward like normal, with the exception of kiting to reset stacks now and then

[strong forum]

I didn't do anything fancy

Just don't overpull

The bigger issue is "random" raging mobs clapping yo cheeks

Or your groups cheeks

[orchid frigate]

am i too optimistic if i think it would be possible to setup voice activation with my wife sitting right next to me and she also uses voice coms

[jagged pier]

depends what your threshold is set too

if it only picks up you should be fine

[strong forum]

If you use a compressor and everything, you can easily set that up

Money fixes alot of things

Except my broken marriage

[still pagoda]

money won't fix your relations for sure

[strong forum]

My marriage is so broken, that I was never married to begin with

How sad is that

[still pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/ryuko-matoi-kill-la-kill-anime-thinking-gif-12390530

nowhere sad, just find your love already

[strong forum]

Ah thanks, never thought of that!

[still pagoda]

[orchid frigate]

🙂

i hate to call things with push to talk

[honest plinth]

@crimson mulch its lusts for forti weeks not tyran

[crimson mulch]

for tyran its even easier, just lust at: 1st boss, do lots of trash before 2nd boss and lust there, then lust last boss

[honest plinth]

it will be over farm fyi

[open rampart]

Any ~4.5K+ IO tanks interested in M+? We have been timing 25+ keys this tyrannical week with PUG tanks, but are looking for a solid tank. Msg me if interested! Pre-patch is super easy versus S4, so get an easy 1k+ boost to your S4 score.

[sweet summit]

idk if this is the right place for this

and you didnt even specify NA/EU ally/horde

[jagged pier]

🤔

[honest plinth]

I dont need 25s but ty haha

[jagged pier]

wonder if he could take my 1900 score to 2.9k am I good enough?

[sweet summit]

for prepatch 25s, most likely yeah

if you could time a 15 in s4 you can time a 25 in prepatch

[honest plinth]

Wrong

[jagged pier]

I know i was joking my score is already 1000 higher than my S4 score

probably a gold farmer or RMT or somthing as he said msg me for details

and specified nothing

[sweet summit]

doubt it

[honest plinth]

You can go 2-3 key lvls higher not 10

I mean if i did 23-24 in season i can farm 26-27 rn

They did something with WS btw, way easier now

[strong forum]

25s aren't like 15s no, but like 22s I'd say

[sweet summit]

maybe a slight overexertion

[strong forum]

Slightly

[honest plinth]

lf ranged tank btw

[jagged pier]

I would be hyped for a ranged tank but it wont work as boss needs to melee

well doesnt have to i guess

tbf I always thought enhance should be tank or give shammy a tank spec you know bring rock out the earth as a defence and stuff seems pretty cool to me

[honest plinth]

you can tank some shit as enh in classic btw till lvl 55+ or so.

that changed in TBC

[modern brook]

Low key kinda tilted my guilds all pushing keys in prepatch - i had to scrape the bottom of LFG to hit 3k in s4 :/

[strong forum]

Cuz now it's easy to get score

So you look better on paper

Also alot of "new spec who dis"

[honest plinth]

absolutely balanced destro warlocks 95k dps on TD beach btw

[strong forum]

Target cap is a bitch

And essences + azerite

Meanwhile arms? The best I can give you is 6k dps

Take it or leave it

[sweet summit]

pain

[honest plinth]

arms is dead by now ye

[strong forum]

I did JY25 as arms cuz I thought it was necrotic+bolstering

Didn't even do 4k overall

with zap

[honest plinth]

jeez

[sweet summit]

(:

[strong forum]

That being said, I'm not great as arms but it's dead spec offensively

Like

Only niche is 2 targets when others don't have CDs ready

3.5k dps

[honest plinth]

fury is fine at least

if you are not pulling for warlocks haha

[strong forum]

I'll never touch fury

So there's that

[sweet summit]

because youre a BETA MALE WITH BAD TASTE 😠

sorry that was toxic

[strong forum]

Fury will always be a meme to me

[honest plinth]

well i played classic, TBC, WotLK and BFA so far and fury was always great

[strong forum]

I played from tbc on ward, eversince titan grip fury is dead to me.
And I'm pvp Player at heart, and fury was never viable outside of meme comps

[sweet summit]

but SMF is back

[honest plinth]

1h fury is best thing they did

[sweet summit]

wrong

1h fury is not cool

[honest plinth]

cool af

[sweet summit]

[honest plinth]

[strong forum]

1h fury is bis(for fury) if you think anything else, your opinion is wrong

[primal saddle]

I mean it's not

[sweet summit]

thank you

[primal saddle]

It's even in terms of DPS

[sweet summit]

TG owns

[primal saddle]

Less stamina so that could be an issue

[strong forum]

Man maleedy really doesn't pick up on jokes...

[open monolith]

Something something Geti'ikku something something mythic nzoth sword

[sweet summit]

wat

[primal saddle]

But you do get 5% speed

[sweet summit]

geti is kinda wack atm

[primal saddle]

I refuse to acknowledge your joke

[strong forum]

TG is big geh :dab:

[primal saddle]

Also yea geti being what it is

[sweet summit]

with that being said, if you thin SMF>TG then youre kinda 3head

[primal saddle]

TG

[sweet summit]

try to fight me

[modern brook]

smf is bis for me because my 2handers are <115 and i have 4 130+ 1handers

[primal saddle]

But shadowlands might have some nice proc weapons

Also are people still getting kicked from pugs for being prot?

[sweet summit]

lmfao

what

[open monolith]

Remember when TF first came out and everyone lost their fucking mind with excitement? Now all these zoomers want to go back to SMF.

[sweet summit]

not sure if trolling or

[strong forum]

Nobody got kicked for being prot for almost 2 years

[primal saddle]

No I've seen people get kicked the last few weeks for being nerfed too much and now prpt is useless

But then again pugs

[modern brook]

lol

[sweet summit]

what

[honest plinth]

w

t

f

[primal saddle]

Yea basicly people only want brewmaster at least the few pugs I have done in prepatch

[open monolith]

Perception is reality. If a SINGLE popular yootoober or streeemer says prot is bad, even if objectively wrong, everyone will think prot is bad.

[sweet summit]

cringe

[open monolith]

Social media ruined the world

Fight me

[primal saddle]

Made me laugh wandered if you guys had seen it happen

[fresh solstice]

sorry if this has been asked and answered before but i couldn't find anything in the pins etc, is gathering storm worth running?

[honest plinth]

brm is 5 binds spec

[modern brook]

@fresh solstice yes.

[sweet summit]

if you have ravager, ye

[modern brook]

^

w/ ravager

THe Azerite spread is realy just "1 dc + stats"

[primal saddle]

It's also the best spec for 30+ keys cus of stagger rn that and us loseing that infante rage feedback loop

[modern brook]

GS, Bom, Hod, CWH, MScheme all give a lot of stats.

[primal saddle]

Brewmaster that is

[modern brook]

all are very good rn

[strong forum]

Every tank can do +30s currently

[sweet summit]

without google, how do you spell MS @modern brook 👀