Also take whirlwind off ur bars, its never getting used
#protection
sweet summit
still pagoda
Spamming deva is not a thing to do in that case
still pagoda
Fill in with deva whenever you have open gcds
Which are rare
Especially now with revenge finally becoming a rage spender worth pressing
dawn pulsar
Especially now with revenge finally becoming a rage spender worth pressing
@still pagoda why? It's rare i click it unless its free
what's changed
sweet summit
Revenge is only 20 rage
dawn pulsar
before was more?
sweet summit
Revenge is our top damage in keys atm
Was 30 rage
Also doesnt have a cooldown anymore
still pagoda
And does a fuckton more damage now
dawn pulsar
And does a fuckton more damage now
@still pagoda so i definitelly dont need devastate now, i have another spell to spam
🤣
sorry dudes quite a noob prot player but im planning to play it more cuz tank are always welcome so...its good to play it
still pagoda
@still pagoda so i definitelly dont need devastate now, i have another spell to spam
@dawn pulsar
You don't spam it either
The only 2 things you use on cd are Shield Slam and clap
And all the offensive cooldowns
- You always need 30 rage to prolong SB when needed (90% of the time)
- Spamming IP won't do much now as you can't loop rage through AM
- Revenge is good now but don't spam it
orchid frigate
anything fun you can do with heroic leap now?
glacial ridge
get the triple jump legendary in SL and make a mouseover macro
dawn pulsar
get the triple jump legendary in SL and make a mouseover macro
@glacial ridge
- You always need 30 rage to prolong SB when needed (90% of the time)
- Spamming IP won't do much now as you can't loop rage through AM
- Revenge is good now but don't spam it
@still pagoda what does it mean that rage can't loop trough AM?
still pagoda
^
You can still play BfA build
But it loses out value on SL launch due to loss of azerite traits
sweet summit
Im running bolster 🤷♀️
glacial ridge
the idea was if you had AM, you could dump rage with IP to shorten youur coolie on Avatar etc
sweet summit
You still wanna use IP to smoothen the damage intake tho
still pagoda
^
glacial ridge
yep
still pagoda
Just not in a spammy way
Where you would ignore its absorb amount
Just look at it from time to time and use whenever you have rage
glacial ridge
in BfA it used up to 60 rage, now its 40 flat
still pagoda
In Legion*
sweet summit
Not bfa for sure
still pagoda
It was 40 flat for all of BfA
glacial ridge
soz my brains abit fried, been wotking 12 hrs lol
still pagoda
In Legion it consumed 20-60 rage
glacial ridge
cant even type -.-
still pagoda
soz my brains abit fried, been wotking 12 hrs lol
@glacial ridge
Seems like 8hrs work day becomes less and less of a thing with every year 
glacial ridge
yah, due covid, working 3 less days but still have the same amount of workload 
topaz ember
I'm paying for university but all I'm doing is reading slide shows my teachers post online and teaching myself
glacial ridge
lol sounds like my uni degree, then didnt get a job in the field I have the degree in 😛
sweet summit
Teach me too please thanks
topaz ember
i went into accounting because either someone is losing or making money someone has to count it
still pagoda
Feels good to be me i guess
glacial ridge
so im a forensic science major working in finance writing forecast modelling 😄
topaz ember
i'll show you my finance forcast modeling
stocks only go up and if you think they went down you just need to wait longer
glacial ridge
- is good, - not so good
orchid frigate
hmm did i miss something but is enhancement the go to dps spec for shammies going forward?
maiden ravine
For shaman players it's always whether they like caster or melee more
It's not like warriors, dks, or pures where they have multiple specs for the same role
orchid frigate
i see
maiden ravine
Enh is a common levelling spec to avoid casting spells though
rigid edge
So how is people liking the changes so far?
sweet summit
brittle owl
ravej
slim reef
i dont know if i can play devastator whole class just feels like it missing something now lol
young oar
Do we use WW as prot? seems to be less dps then revenge...
sweet summit
No we dont
young oar
Lucky they gave us that ability back then ;P
sweet summit
rigid edge
well doing the solo 5 mask run now with ravager felt really good
rigid edge
Oh it was a slow run I think, ~30-35 mins
sweet summit
steep bone
Soo how do i git gud as prot now
steep bone
vers is for nerds?
brittle owl
yes
steep bone
so this is unaceptable?
sweet summit
shoudlve taken a backup :/
steep bone
i did
i mean i have everything just settings are fucked up
xD
like no borders on wa
sweet summit
o
sweet summit
no
vocal berry
madness
brittle owl
steep bone
@sweet summit how do i git gud as fury now
sweet summit
do big dam
rigid edge
And get big looking sword
still pagoda
like no borders on wa
@steep bone
Addonskins is currently broken and won't be available for the next few days
I don't have borders either
Everything else was fine when i logged in
sweet summit
a thats hot
steep bone
@still pagoda i fixed with wa thats adding borders
wild sandal
is it bad to play Booming voice with ravger, i dont like DR alot
sweet summit
No, it works well
steep bone
@still pagoda i feel like game's working better, performance wise
shut palm
just wondering, what builds are ppl running in Mythic dungs now? kinda new here 🙂
vivid mauve
@shut palm In the pins you can find guides on prot during pre-patch 🙂
shut palm
oh thanks 🙂
still pagoda
@steep bone works fine to me
last mason
Are we still supposed to hit clap every other gcd now in avatar
Or is there a new approximation of how often
still pagoda
you still clap on cd anyway
sweet summit
if you have ravager its the same as old outside of avatar, so every 4th gcd
still pagoda
JUST SPAM IT
last mason
Ty, how are you guys acclimating btw. At first everything felt kinda clunky but that might just be a learning curve
sweet summit
i had to google what that ment, but i still dont understand
still pagoda
nah, nothing really special to adapt to
game feels good... Except for login servers not working right now
simple mural
Adjusting to things
last mason
Might just be that everything is slower due to less stats
still pagoda
i came back home after 4 seminars and i want to chill in WoW
still pagoda
acclimatisation is a long-standing meme in my family
sweet summit
oh ok i got it
spec plays the same for the majority
only big difference is the AM rage feedback (ive been playing bolster), and dragon roar/ravager not being inting
i do like that i can use revenge a lot more often, and that it actually does damage
last mason
Ya the lack of am feedback with last stand has been the biggest thing
And why is dragon roar decent now, just seems like ravager offers more
Like we don’t have much crit, and ravager gives the party
Parry*
still pagoda
And why is dragon roar decent now, just seems like ravager offers more
@last mason
Just because both BV and DR do the same thing without SL version of TGV
ravager gives rage now
and on a different row
so you can take both DR and ravaj
sweet summit
dragon roar is decent because it doesnt compete with UF, and does big dam
last mason
Ohh I didn’t realize it didn’t give parry, dumb question my b. And not competing with UF is a really good point, didn’t think about that
dark leaf
anyone else run into a bug where they had 5 stacks of into the fray at all times without even running the talent? bc i had that then lost it by changing the talent lol
sweet summit
yeah, its a common bug
you can keep it if you want, or you can right click it and never get it back :)
dark leaf
i switched talents and lost it forever 😦
modern brook
demolished tbh
sweet summit
bad rng
modern brook
@sweet summit any update on the GS meme?
sweet summit
sir no sir
modern brook
@strong forum have you tried it yet?
strong forum
no
strong forum
almost doubling your STR on 45sec CD
when STR translates 100% to armor
and STR increases everything you do
is very good
modern brook
I'll give it another try. does 3/1/3/1/2/3/3 sound fine for talents?
modern brook
let me rephrase: "do we still run AM if we take ravager"
sweet summit
ye sure i have no idea what that is but yeah sure
strong forum
you can yes
modern brook
smh prot war hasnt had to think about talents in so long yall forget the short hand
strong forum
its prolly way more dmg to run ravager with 3gs than UF with regular bfa setup
modern brook
for traits ima run 3gs 2 bom 1 uf
strong forum
ya then you absolutely wanna run ravager, otherwise 3gs doesnt give you shit :4head:
modern brook
THats more for my reference when i get home today. Oranges <-- thats so i can find it when i get home today 🙂
modern brook
🤷♂️ im working for 6 more hours so
still pagoda
night shift
modern brook
Its noon here lol
modern brook
🦅
strong forum
yeah cant log into beta either
still pagoda
because the entirety of login servers is dead
steep bone
OMG I LOVE BLIZZARD
still pagoda
that feature is actually cool...
steep bone
that feature is absolutely 10/10
now i can level in cool transmogs and that's atleast +10 to have fun
strong forum
playing with bad tmog ruins everything
lowkey
i cant enjoy the game if i dont atleast enjoy the look of my character, just like irl
still pagoda
playing with bad tmog ruins everything [2]
fiery dagger
playing with bad tmog ruins everything [3]
mental scarab
Bad tmog=bad dps
fiery dagger
Bad tmog = low fps
last mason
Are the majority of people taking heavy repercussions or bolster
last mason
Do you find yourself using last stand more selectively without AM feedback or not really
sweet summit
not really
still pagoda
nah
strong forum
not with bolster no
still pagoda
just as usual
stable flower
How is war in comparison to say prot pally?
modern brook
i cant enjoy the game if i dont atleast enjoy the look of my character, just like irl
THis hits deep
last mason
where do you download the new details
still pagoda
potent pebble
gotta get the shadowlands beta details
@strong forum was It updated? Mine was broken until 6h ago when I logged off
potent pebble
Wut 😩
still pagoda
i'm using pre-patch details
works fine except for numerous lua errors in my chat window
potent pebble
Is it because mines the twich version?
The metters bars turns white, numbers dont show and a lot of erros in the chat> works fine except for numerous lua errors in my chat window
@still pagoda
civic rover
i'm using the beta details and haven't had that problem
potent pebble
9.0.1 version isnt?
strong forum
sounds about aight
still pagoda
The metters bars turns white, numbers dont show and a lot of erros in the chat> works fine except for numerous lua errors in my chat window
@still pagoda
@potent pebble
Exactly. Works fine for the most bugged pre-patch of them all
strong forum
only did 1 key
chilly brook
modern brook
reported
still pagoda
@last mason check out Sense's big spreadsheet in #698541559049748520's pins
@steep bone dunno, 2 minutes in. Waiting for my toons to load
the issue is only for EU servers tho
uncut finch
Hi guys, im new here.. what is GS when talking about azerite?
still pagoda
Gathering Storm
bladestorm trait that works with ravager
consider this a strong meme
still pagoda
basically
if you don't want to bother with something during pre-patch, stick with standard azerites
candid path
Yeah, I wouldn't worry too much about Gathering Storm or Bladestorm stuff unless you are wanting to experiment
uncut finch
Yea. I'm just getting back into wow since WoD
candid path
the more useful experimental play I would recommend is taking Longstrider in your Azerite Minor Slot
and using that and the extra TClap slow to pure kite
still pagoda
Longstrider is underrated
uncut finch
Just trying to get used to rotations and stuff
still pagoda
yet it is not gamebreaking
candid path
it's stunning how good Prot Warrior can be at kiting right now
like, MoP Monk level, but with slightly more damage
still pagoda
btw
real orchid
Anyone done keys this morning, and if u've noticed any scaling changes? Just felt like things take a lot longer to die
still pagoda
my lightfoot potions are still here
candid path
Yeah
Kiting is, of course, boring as shit and completely antithetical to the concept of tanking, but you can do it if you need.
You can do it like a champ.
lime plume
^
steep bone
lol ive no abilities on priest but pumping on that 12lvl
orchid frigate
what a fiesta pre-patch has been so far with the login issues
now im getting the blank character selection 😦
ebon geyser
Anyone playing ravager bolster/HR? Do u like it
still pagoda
it's fucking great
ebon geyser
Better than the base talent we have in the guide?
ionic fern
Play w/e you want. I'm doing a +18 WM right now with AM/Uf without any issues. 🤷
For 20+ i'd definitely say to take bolster+ravager tho.
Below that w/e.
still pagoda
I did ravager/bolster +19ToS right nos
Amount of damage that is not TC or autos
Is amazing
ebon geyser
What play u recommend for low mythic nya prog heroic wise. Gearing my war since my cotank is gonna be dh as alt and my alt is war
ebon geyser
Or a sturdy safe talents
ebon geyser
I mean is prog because my war is working tru regular mythic
still pagoda
first few bosses in mythic die from a poof
ebon geyser
Dungeons to gear
still pagoda
run whatever build you want
ebon geyser
Last time I play warrior I was in vanilla
ionic fern
Amount of damage that is not TC or autos
@still pagoda wdym?
still pagoda
as it doesn't matter at all
ionic fern
ebon geyser
Mwahi but u are better than me
ionic fern
With 63% blocked hits. 👀
Granted our damage was HORRIBLE
2 of them below me on a +18. 😒
still pagoda
@ebon geyser really. Everything up until really high keys can be done while playing with legs
just follow IV or wowhead guides and chill
it's a time for fun
and memes
ebon geyser
Cool I need to get used to so many buttons lol
still pagoda
what many buttons?
@ionic fern i did more deeps than you in my 19ToS
lul
by 100
ionic fern
By details or by log? 😦
cosmic canyon
is indomitable & never surrender compareable in prepatch or is one stronger by a lot?
cosmic canyon
aight
still pagoda
cosmic canyon
has details! come out with the damage meter yet? I reckon it could take a couple days
still pagoda
Details build 7900 works fine too
the "pre-patch" one
smh
i don't see any errors now
cosmic canyon
thanks btw, downloading beta build atm
last mason
So Ik there’s a new SL spreadsheet for reflectable casts, but what’s the tuning like on those abilities when it comes to reflect
Is it as nutty was it was in bfa or did bliz tune that sorta thing down
Haven’t played the beta
strong forum
na theyre now way more aware of SR because of many people crying about it in BFA
vocal skiff
So, is it a bug that I currently have the ITF buff, despite not using the talent?
mellow patio
I’d say
vocal skiff
I was wondering if it's a known issue
mellow patio
Not sure if it’s been reported I imagine it has but yes others are experiencing the same
vocal skiff
On another note, Prot Warrior isn't as clunky gameplay wise as I thought, though I am feeling naked sometimes in regards to SB uptime
ionic fern
It gets clunkier once you get to 9% haste . 🙂
vocal skiff
And the SB uptime will get worse, of course
Right now I have 42%, plus 2 haste trinkets
serene hound
The eternal cycle. Warrior scales hard and really starts to shine at the end of an expansion, and falls on its face to one degree or another when the next one starts
candid path
Yep, it always, always, always happens.
At least IP and Charge aren't on the GCD this time.
still pagoda
Well, spec also plays really smooth rn
proven igloo
I mean, they were top m+ tank 3/4 of the expansion.
vocal skiff
devastator felt awful though
still pagoda
Devastator feels amazing imo
Maybe because i'm accustomed to it after running it on nya reclears before pre-patch
candid path
still pagoda
who knows...
last mason
devastator feels a bit unreliable at some points but maybe thats fixed with haste
arms-style lol
cosmic canyon
haven't been using ravager, tbh haven't played 2 months or so. is there often value to tossing ravager at some other location, or for convincience do '@heavy mirage macro might as well?
cosmic canyon
or charge in and then do it?
or clap -> stack shit -> ravager idk
yeah, that'll probably fit my playstyle better. can offbind it to some button if i want to toss it occasionally
last mason
Depends what’s up, if your making damage probs avatar charge in claps demo shout ravager
cosmic canyon
onto some odd button*
last mason
Maxing damage*
cosmic canyon
did they reduce the gcd btw? feels less clunky now, but then again; haven't been logged in so i might make it up
cosmic canyon
aight, so no formula changes
last mason
No
cosmic canyon
cheers buddy
cosmic canyon
tested a dungeon, man i miss 2x charges on intercept gone charge.
considering double time as go to.
nn
strong forum
Ravager has 40yard range for some reason
torn knoll
ball park question how much rage to you think the AVG person spends per pull?
strong forum
ball park question how much rage to you think the AVG person spends per pull?
@torn knoll depends on target count, talents and encounter time
mellow patio
I genuinely do not believe I could tell you how much rage I spend per pull
As much as possible
cinder nova
More than 8.
mellow patio
That’s what you think
strong forum
That's what the media wants you to think!
cinder nova
Hawgz took Shield Block off his bar
crude pond
Having AM instead of Bolster, SW has definitely shorter cooldown than LS. Does this mean I should use SW when I would have used LS before?
torn knoll
@strong forum thats right a pack of 7 mobs in TD is about 700 rage spent
cinder nova
...I asked why a warrior with higher ilvl than me was doing so little damage
"I don't spam shield slam like you"
vivid orchid
O.o
cinder nova
Pretty sure this dude was living in 3.3.5a or something
Because he thought each successful block still gave rage
vivid orchid
oo yea thats some outdated knowledge
crude pond
I thought War Machine would be awesome at running low level dungeons, only to find out it never procs there 
vivid orchid
yeah i wish it worked, but alas enemies must be non-trivial
mellow patio
War machine stink
vivid orchid
it'd be great for soloing old raids if it worked 🙄
analog zinc
does it only proc when you land killing blow?
also is there an internal CD?
i'm thinking it's good on cara / n'zoth
vivid orchid
nah dont need a killing blow despite what it says
mellow patio
War machine is just... bad
analog zinc
even on n'zoths?
theres sooo many dying adds
i figure all that extra rage gives u a bunch of extra AM reduction
vivid orchid
its 1 extra rage per auto, its pretty bad
mellow patio
Also if you are alpha switch your azerite to CR and down the adds
analog zinc
whats cr again
callous reprival
wait hold on
revenge does more dmg than clap baseline??
is best served cold good then??
thats big dmg
that is something i like about sl war, you can convert extra rage into extra dmg whereas u couldnt rly do that b4
mellow patio
Check #698541559049748520 pins for build info. Best served cold still not good cause BV and DR are big rage
turbid cargo
lmao
vocal flame
anyone know of any good ignore pain trackers? the one i was using doesnt work cause of the stat changes
uncut finch
Which addon is this?
mellow patio
That’s a snippet from Warcraft logs lol
distant crystal
strong forum
Mine looks way better
undone sun
strong forum
Thanks!
topaz ember
no mine looks way better
sweet summit
sweet summit
Yeah ok ur cat is better :/
topaz ember
got em
real orchid
gathering storm for ravager+Bolster build worth it over heart of darkness/clockwork heart?
real orchid
what's so meme about it?
sweet summit
Its not optimal, HoD/CWH is very strong
real orchid
I see, thanks!
vivid mauve
Are there any thoughts about optimal professions for SL? Or doesn't it really matter?
brittle owl
blacksmithing so you can make caskets for mfs you body slam
ebon hound
strong forum
I wouldnt call GS + rav + Bolster a meme build
I very much think its actually optimal personally
buoyant patrol
hey any warriors doing +22 keys and above can link their profile? Curious to see what is working 🙂
cosmic canyon
is it possible to do @ player in a castsequence macro?
castsequencereset =x [@ player] spell1, spell2 doesnt work
got it to work
./castsequence [@ player] reset=7 dragon roar, Ravager
buoyant patrol
ah yeah thanks thyme
cosmic canyon
Did they remove the Thunderstuck effect from shadowlands, or? I thought I saw it somewhere
(thunder clap root)
honest plinth
Well i tried gs Ravager and i dont like it.
cosmic canyon
yeah, idk what i think yet either, just testing about
to get the 10 extra rage from "War machine" death trigger, you have to do the final blow yourself? or just be in the vicinity and hit the mob "close to when it's dying" ?
strong forum
yey
urchin pumps
shouldve used shieldwall a bit earlier though
only used it twice
couldve gotten 3
to get the 10 extra rage from "War machine" death trigger, you have to do the final blow yourself? or just be in the vicinity and hit the mob "close to when it's dying" ?
@cosmic canyon no you just need to have entered combat with the mob
cosmic canyon
aight
strong forum
thoughts about WV Major now?
cosmic canyon
wierd, "stand your ground" is outhealing everything after my dungeon run, except leech, indom & IP.
before patch it was never above a 1% or smth lol
Aegis of the Deep.
strong forum
it did only 1-2k per enemy in bfa afaik
now it does 180 per enemy
and you had about 30x more HP in BFA
cosmic canyon
strong forum
thats about 30
cosmic canyon
nice nontheless, really strong then atm
cosmic canyon
versatility still the 'go to' ? or have some other stats gone up in value?
strong forum
ilvl > haste > vers
cosmic canyon
so, change sockets from vers to haste then
strong forum
pmuch
cosmic canyon
you missed the whole versatility stack meta? :p
strong forum
na he was just smart enough to only apply it when its actually properly beneficial
and he didnt play up to there
still pagoda
I did few 22s and 23s
cosmic canyon
Aight ❤️
still pagoda
Had no need for pillow suit
cosmic canyon
Everyone plays what they want in the end
still pagoda
Vers below +24 is for nerds (c) Hawgz
cosmic canyon
these +7 vers etc makes my brain hurt atm; at one time it brings me flashbacks to vanilla on the other hand it's just really hard to look at an item atm and "value it"
did strength increase in relative value after patch?
vanguard got changed a bit right?
cosmic canyon
"just the tip" huh?
still pagoda
Prot already had totally mad ilvl scaling before vanguard change on beta and ptr
Now all your str converts into armor at 1:1 ratio
cosmic canyon
worth running 1x leviathan now then y?
cosmic canyon
that strong huh, ok
half egret
i play with vision nul.dynamo lucid and strengh of warden should i change any of this for aegis?
and dont judge me but on the healing meters there is no ignore pain did they changed it?
brittle owl
SotW minor is bin tier with corruption gone
so get rid of that asap
do you not have C&S?
rigid edge
I'd change SoTW with Aegis yeah
strong forum
ye but thats the only thing it offers
when aegis grants you vers and healing
sure sotw does good healing, but thats everything if offers
rigid edge
I believe for M+ Aegis is the safer option
sweet summit
Its not even good healing, like 60% is overhealed
strong forum
even with that in mind its not terrible, but yes alot of potential healing of it is wasted
brittle owl
using SotW for healing
yes lemme just
heal when i take no damage
so i can't believe i done this but
i searched for top healing parses for warrios that did nya m now on prepatch
arguably one of the better scenarios for sotw being carapace where this dude is numba 1
sotw minor = 1.3 x Impassive Visage
big heals
strong forum
not using Urchin
onyx vessel
maybe
honest plinth
Is urchin mandatory again? Its something New for me
onyx vessel
its prob overtuned for the ilvl
crucible is very strong for st as minor
does alot of dmg currently
strong forum
its not overtuned for the ilvl
strong forum
its the ilvl squish that pulls it closer to max ilvl
it used to be like 40ilvl behind
now its "only" 10-20ilvl behind
onyx vessel
even protocol hmm
strong forum
and ilvl was the most important factor in urchin
honest plinth
Minor ofc
onyx vessel
well it is worse then shell
urchin isnt
id prob want to use shell + vita but i use alch stone
yeah your 450 urchin
vs my 430 i had
honest plinth
Ye i use stone and shell
honest plinth
And even 105 40 ilvl lower
onyx vessel
no
honest plinth
30*
onyx vessel
then shell
honest plinth
Ye
median timber
we using things like whirlwind ?
honest plinth
I have no 105 haha
honest plinth
In st
honest plinth
Ye its so good now
honest plinth
Is Bolster stacking with sb now?
vocal flame
is is rank 1 conflict and strife better than rank 3 strength of th warden? i noticed on icy veins that it only compares rank 3 of each
modern brook
what do you mean stacking?
@vocal flame uhhh probably not you're missing duration and max stacks from rank 3
median timber
with devestator do you guys have a bunch of empty gcd's now
modern brook
that said you can probably find a better essence than either sotw or r1cns
median timber
is that just how we play now
median timber
and devestator from what im reading seems to be the go to for most content right
modern brook
I prefer it. Punish is playable fromwhat I've seen
modern brook
It makes avatars feeel bad but IDT Prots supposed to be the 63apm monstrosity that it has ben for 2 years anymore
even without deva
mental scarab
so any macro for ravager so it spawns where the mouse is when i click it?
modern brook
uhhh
mental scarab
so i dont need to click again with mouse 😄
modern brook
/cast [@cursor] Ravager```Im pretty sure thats it
if you'd rather it spawn at your feet you could do @heavy mirage instead
sorry player
vocal flame
@modern brook ok th ank you
mental scarab
oh super thanks:D
modern brook
there any use cases for shattering throw in BFA yet?
Best i could come up with is cheesing ashvane
mental scarab
raping paladins in pvp
still pagoda
^
modern brook
meh thats too bad
still pagoda
This is literally the only use case for shattering throw
modern brook
port finally gets some utility and its not applicable
still pagoda
To rape paladins and priests
deep lily
Might do my first raid tonight as the offtank in Nya. Any advice?
modern brook
Use the shield but only when you need to
ie: if you're not actively tanking, pool charges
The only hard fight is probably ra-den so make sure you're brushed up on that
and by hard i mean like "theres actual tank mechanics"
IF you expect to get to nzoth maybe make sure you know the route to take psychus
wiping cause ur tank doesnt know where to go is fucking annoying
Otherwise i think most of nya is taunt when you;re told to and dont die
civic rover
watch darkmechs two minute tank guides
cosmic canyon
condemn wording has me a bit confused, "the primary target is weakened, preventing up to blabla.. Does this mean it hits several targets? other wording within the same spell has it sound like it's a single target ability
jagged pier
doesnt hit several targets for prot as you have no way to make it cleave
in fury you do with WW
so its ST only for us
cosmic canyon
explains, cheers
slow steppe
has anyone fixed the macro used to check for Protection hidden artifact appearance availability?
i dont know anything about Macros, otherwise id fix it myself
cosmic canyon
what legendaries is currently considered being the best way to go as protection for +m ?
civic rover
the macro only works if you're like right outside the cave where it is now
so might as well just go to the cave
tepid niche
why do we have so many spells now!!
civic rover
thankfully only one of our new buttons is really worth using
tepid niche
execute?
civic rover
yeah
cosmic canyon
in SL, are you ever gonna be able to wield/wear more than one legendary effect/item?
vocal skiff
Later, perhaps
mellow patio
Yes no for 9.0
lusty grotto
deep lily
Tyvm @modern brook @civic rover
At the risk of looking like a total airhead, is rotation different when not the main tank? Should I slam less? And when letting the other tank take over, do I stop all attacking altogether until they build up threat?
distant crystal
kinda depends
if you find yourself ripping off your cotank then yeah you can take it easy a bit
uneven mason
Well, you shouldn't use IP or SB so you're basically banking rage until its time to take over, dumping into Rev/Exe to keep from capping
And yeah that.
Warrior tends to be pretty strong in the damage end of things
so, its very possible to just ript aggro back after a taunt swap
tepid niche
I usually just hold off a little with SB to let MT get a grip of agro, then go all out, usually works fine, now we don't have the TD taunt should be easier to control tank swaps
hushed cobalt
i'm hoping for later down teh road when condemn replaces IP...
a bright purple haired lady gnome can dream i guess
deep lily
Thanks everyone!
modern brook
if you find yourself ripping off your cotank then yeah you can take it easy a bit
@distant crystal if you're ripping off your cotank hes a BITCH 😠
craggy harness
or it's a bdk in lfr learning
modern brook
sounds like a bitch to me tbh 🤷♂️
daring light
why is my damage like a wet noodle
wtf
do i stack crit haste now and get rid of vers?
daring light
daring light
daring light
am i dumping everything into it or using it on proc?
strong forum
dumping
daring light
i was using it on proc
daring light
i thought something was up
strong forum
modern brook
revenge of revenge
modern brook
its party time dude
daring light
what talents you running?
modern brook
daring light
im still repping big TC build
vivid orchid
xx 3 2 2 3 x
strong forum
not so big is it
modern brook
Not thicc
strong forum
DR/Rav/Bolster is the more defensive build
vivid orchid
it needs the TGV leggo to get some of it back
strong forum
Ravager generates a shitton of rage
vivid orchid
but thats not available on live yet
strong forum
and does good dmg
daring light
more buttons to press
modern brook
Did you come up with an opinion on punish vs devestator in keys yet nom>
daring light
great
modern brook
hard agree
prisma swift
Did a full heroic clear last night, devistator felt really good
daring light
modern brook
Just gotta get used to not being global capped
daring light
that right?
strong forum
ye
modern brook
I use DT
strong forum
das the best build imo
modern brook
1 charge makes me cry
strong forum
ye but not having Stormbolt makes me cry
modern brook
also tru
prisma crane
having to choose makes me cry
modern brook
Also tru
imo the ST stun is someone elses job - we have 2 CCs anyways without it
plus DT has value on boss fights
strong forum
yeah no
daring light
yeah i wish they didnt change the charge intercept shit like wtf
modern brook
yeah i wish they didnt change the charge intercept shit like wtf
@daring light warrior got absolute ASS BLASTED by the unpruning imo; idt a single spec got anything useful to it
daring light
DT for raiding SB for M+
strong forum
pmuch
daring light
thanks for the help tho lads i knew i was doing something wrong
strong forum
like, BFA build is 100% playable
but it hardly leaves globals to press revenge
which hits harder than TC
and is your main DMG and rage spender
modern brook
Do you just ignore ignore pain?
strong forum
next to IP being your defensive rage spender
prisma swift
Any thoughts on impending victory for raiding to abosorb bigger magic hits?
strong forum
IV can be easily played wrongly, or not used often enoug to validate its use
it can have value
but Indom always has value, always does alot and you have free 10% EHP ontop of it
which in turn works also perfectly vs magic
prisma swift
Hows it looking for stat priority? is haste out the window?
modern brook
the guides are updated, but no haste is still good, i lvl still better
all else equal i think its haste>verse>crit>mast // haste> crit>verse>mast for raid//m+
daring light
put my alchemist stone in the bin now?>
modern brook
Alch stone give str doesnt it?
strong forum
na its vers
daring light
str proc
strong forum
- str proc
daring light
modern brook
that sounds usable 🤷♂️
strong forum
alch stone is still aight
daring light
thats what im rolling
strong forum
but i prefer vita
modern brook
double str then haste
strong forum
depends on what keys you plan on doing for now
modern brook
🙂 maybe nom will play with me now
strong forum
we just did UR22 with like 20 deaths and people who havent played for months, ontop of being shit
id get more haste if i were you
like people died 5 times at the last gate alone
and still had 5min left or some shit
still pagoda
like people died 5 times at the last gate alone
@strong forum
vocal skiff
If I am using DC, is BV always winning over DR?
vocal skiff
I meant the other way around. Will BV win because of DC?
vocal skiff
Wouldn't it be better dps on ST as well?
vocal skiff
Yeah I am on feelycraft grounds
prisma swift
What about azerite traits, is 3x bastion still bis?
modern brook
@strong forum is that the Richard EB cover of the greatest song ever written going on in the background?
prisma swift
did they just not update the tooltip? mine still says requires arms or fury
strong forum
could be
picking the trait requires arms or fury
since its technically not a prot trait
but ravager procs gathering storm
because Arms and Fury Ravager also procs GS
prisma swift
ahhhhh ok
strong forum
so prot Ravager does too
steep bone
ok so, big dam big pp
wowhead info gud?
i havent touched prot since like 3 weeks
@strong forum you had screenshots with talents picked in dungs or something, ive seen it
strong forum
yuh
steep bone
cheers
oh so similar
where do i put new abilities REE
I dont put whirlwind anywhere aye
strong forum
aegis heals alot
str is very good
null barrier is decent again
lucid major is dog, only 8% leech
steep bone
can i just go cnf major, crucible, vop aegis minor?
strong forum
pmuch
steep bone
pog
strong forum
but you dont root as much anymore unless you play bfa build
vocal skiff
Vision
strong forum
dunno what else to use
steep bone
gotta spam some 15 for nub friend and gear him up so whatever gonna work
vita+dragonscale still bis?
strong forum
25s are like 20s
steep bone
everything haste
strong forum
y
steep bone
and no hod?
steep bone
Hmm
ive so many azerites
so probs can get something better if theres something better
sweet summit
im running double HoD
modern brook
1DC and things that give stats, has been the general concensus as far as i can tell
Bom still bomb, GS is dope, Hod/CWH are a lot of stats very often, MScheming prroooobbably is still fine
i lowkey think CR is really good now but dont want to spend the cash to find out
sweet summit
youre still fine ;)
modern brook
Just dont use healthpotions 4head then its like nothing changed :^)
vocal skiff
Yesterday I wanted to pull the whole raal's room in waycrest, but missed 1 pack
had to go back there on foot
Lightfoot though
modern brook
Cant u pull that whole room by aggroing Raal?
modern brook
^ same lol
vocal skiff
he murders you
sweet summit
helll wipe u