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still pagoda
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Nah

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They do only for world first race environment

still pagoda
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most people use axe because it was released before the sword

sweet summit
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axe looks cooler

urban vapor
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need to ask in Fury group

still pagoda
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marginal difference during leveling

urban vapor
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go to Fury

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they have double 2H

still pagoda
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ranzai

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we're talking leveling right now

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no need to delegate to fury chat :)

urban vapor
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thxn

pastel sleet
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i typically go haste looms while leveling. with an empty action bar, more haste means more play.

onyx vessel
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offtopic channel is prot channel what you mean

steep bone
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my guild finally took a break from raiding until SL

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WOO i can play other toonz

still pagoda
onyx vessel
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my guild prob wont take a break

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gives me a reason to login

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๐Ÿ‘

strong forum
still pagoda
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peepoHappy haven't had a reason to login outside of WA fuckery in a month by now

strong forum
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i thought i would have to redo alot

still pagoda
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nah, not much

strong forum
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then i logged into beta and all i have to do was add like 3 buttons

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thats it

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๐Ÿ™ƒ

still pagoda
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outside of few fucked up triggers

strong forum
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for me everything worked 100% instantly

still pagoda
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i already fear some things won't for me

strong forum
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all i had to add was DR / RAV

still pagoda
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๐Ÿ™ƒ

onyx vessel
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you mean add 0 buttons

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all useless

strong forum
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na

onyx vessel
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gonna ww?

still pagoda
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you mean add B L O O D T A P?

onyx vessel
strong forum
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DR/RAV/ replace essences with Covenant

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add CS

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add execute popup

onyx vessel
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offtank taunts

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smashs execute

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rips

strong forum
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i mean

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youll prolly execute even as MT with aggro

still pagoda
onyx vessel
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most likely

strong forum
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aint using no IP when im not taking dmg

onyx vessel
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to be fair if you rippping threat the other tank is trash

strong forum
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just block

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i just hope tanks besides pally get some more damgur

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a tank should do like 70% dmg of a dps in aoe

still pagoda
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to offset aggro issues

strong forum
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also fun factor

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nobody enjoys doing 2k dps when the rest farms 8k+

still pagoda
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also CLICK YOUR BUTTONS

still pagoda
strong forum
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what about gunshoes

warm plinth
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You're a gunshoe

strong forum
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hot

steep bone
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yeah buy gliders

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and sell them with big profit

strong forum
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im just mad that i cant put glider on my cloak

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cuz of that stupid on use it has

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even in SL

steep bone
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tbh my sl preparations gonna be... none, just farm the shit out of dungeons asap so i can boost lowbies for good gold yep

void plaza
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@still pagoda nice UI but where is devastate

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๐Ÿ™‚

tame garden
still pagoda
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@void plaza doesn't exist

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No devastate, no problem

void plaza
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lies

still pagoda
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๐Ÿ™ƒ

void plaza
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is it not needed

still pagoda
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Is it a genuine question or are you memeing? ๐Ÿ™ƒ

void plaza
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i didnt see it on the UI just asking

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new to tanking too

still pagoda
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ah

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Well, I don't track what is useless to track

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You use devastate as a filler when everything else is on cd

void plaza
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oh ok i was getting confused looking at it

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love the ui

distant crystal
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that's the main thing happening in the "clean" uis you see

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people hiding all of the things that have no cd

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or where the cd is irrelevant

solemn wing
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LF a good tank for a 16 sots

meager night
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So Iโ€™ve been leveling up as prot and it been going well so far. As far as using IP or shield block, i can never tell when to prioritize which of them

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I try to keep IP up 99% of the time. And if itโ€™s a melee mob, Iโ€™ll only use shield block. Not sure if thatโ€™s the right way to do it. Any advice?

sick sentinel
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@meager night not that its too important up until max level, its good to get the muscle memory down i would guess, but according to the guides its the other way around

brittle owl
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SB is main priority

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ip is a rage dump, nothing more

meager night
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Ok. So shield block on CD and dump excess rage into IP?

icy monolith
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Yes and if youโ€™re not taking much damage you can spend it on revenge

sweet summit
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Its more than just "SB on CD". Yes you can just mash the button, you wont lose any uptime but you might waste a few seconds where youre not actively tanking. I prefer to use one charge at a time.
You want to have it up as long as you take blockable damage. and since youre also using the talent "Bolster", Last Stand becomes Shield Block too. Generally you can do SB->SB->SB->LS->SB->SB->SB->SW->SB etc
And as stated above, ignore pain is mainly used to spend rage. There are a few encounters where you want to prioritize IP over SB, and thats Prophet Skitra, Rixxa Fluxflame, Razdunk, King Mechagon phase 1 and Shadow of Zul

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@meager night

hearty portal
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Now with pre-patch coming, how much does stats matter on an item? Is highest item level generally the best or?

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I might test tank as a warrior abit to get the feeling of the spec. And I'm not 100% sure what gear I should be using with corruptions going away

grand drum
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with vanguard getting a buff, ilvl is more important

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than it already is

sweet summit
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Ilvl>haste

alpine stag
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gonna get a lot of stick for this, but has any1 ever tried a high mastery and Ineffable truth build, where u essentialy go from Monster Avatar to Monster Avatar

strong forum
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Well you only need 2 IT for that

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To get 3 avatars back to back

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During lucid that is.

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And outside of that you already have 60-70% avatar uptime.
Changing the entire 2ndary distribution and corruptions to get a bit more uptime and more mastery isn't as beneficial as it may initially sound

sweet summit
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I wanted to try a mastery stacking build, but game is kinda dead atm so i never got to it. What i have tried tho, is full ineffable, thats fun :)

still pagoda
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Mastery stacking was a good meme back in 7.3.2

sweet summit
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Avatar+charge+sb->clap->demo->clap

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If you havent already, i recommend reading the icy veins guide

halcyon pasture
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What is your % verse?
I have some corruptions but my base is 6%.

sweet summit
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what content are you doing

halcyon pasture
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Ps I'm not using the corruptions yet

modern brook
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this is a flawed question

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You either a) dont care about verse

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or b) stack the shit out of it

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the % doesnt matter

halcyon pasture
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I just got ksm. I'm starting to push 17 and up

modern brook
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You're falling in group a then

sweet summit
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ya vers isnt something you need to think about then

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ilvl>haste>crit

still pagoda
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and stack maximum out of TD

modern brook
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2 IT, fill with TD ^

sweet summit
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once you start getting into the low to mid 20s, you consider stacking vers

still pagoda
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if you can of course :)

sweet summit
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what bull said for corruptions

modern brook
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The disclaimer being

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if you wanna stack verse for a 17, go for it; you will literally take no damage

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but like you're also gutting your DPS and probably lengthing the key overall

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at Sub 20~ keys dont deal enough damage to you to justify the swap to full verse, assuming good play from you and your team

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ie: kicks are hit, block uptime is right etc

halcyon pasture
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So if I get to 20 up, what base verse% should I be corrupting on. Is 6% ok.

modern brook
halcyon pasture
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Ok

still pagoda
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you can do 22-23 keys with zero vers and no problems

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it takes some practice, but you can get it right)

pastel sleet
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I've got a niche pre-patch question. This originally was looked over because of the short 2 week pre-patch, but now that it is going to be a LONG pre-patch this might have some weight behind it.

Are there any unique interactions between the new SL functionality of prot warrior and the BFA azerite traits that might bump some power level during the prepatch?

modern brook
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Uhhhh With ravager being much more of a thing i coudl imagine Gathering storm being stupid

strong forum
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neat idea actually

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3x GS + 1x DC + 2x Bom

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@ionic fern @sweet summit thoughts

sweet summit
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Have you checked

strong forum
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KEK

sweet summit
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Azerite exists

pastel sleet
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gatherstorm could be busted you right

strong forum
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since AM isnt as big of a thing anymore, youll get more use out of GS prolly, due to the lower CD

ionic fern
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Potentially jeah.

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Just go for BSC + 3x CR.

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๐Ÿ˜‚

strong forum
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๐Ÿ”ซ

sweet summit
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Bloodsport x3 + NS

strong forum
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(could probably actually work...)

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not that meme erga

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shush

ionic fern
sweet summit
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Ok

strong forum
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oh god

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where were those changes during bfa

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that wouldve actually been fun for like a few weeks

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but nooOOOoOO changes

ionic fern
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Die Corruption Die.

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Can't wait for PRepatch to come so i can log back onto Retail again after like 2 months.

still pagoda
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Die Corruption Die. [2]

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i really can't wait for prepatch to come to wipe it off and enjoy some random dungeons with guildies

ionic fern
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How did we do m+ again before Vers stacking?

still pagoda
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i was doing 99% of my runs with TD

sweet summit
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Only think i look forward to in prepatch is raiding with shitty alts vs a nerfed nyalotha

ionic fern
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I did 99% of my runs with leech.

still pagoda
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and that 1% was TD3+2xVers3+2xIT1

strong forum
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m+ before vers stackign was impossible

ionic fern
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I'm actually excited for the leveling changes.

strong forum
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people didnt even reach 6k

ionic fern
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I never went through Pandaria/WoD etc.

strong forum
still pagoda
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i want to go through Pandaria at a decent pacing again

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just like back in MoP days

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fuck, i need to do this on pally

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on a prot pally

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with Holy Power back

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just like i did back then

sweet summit
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Nzoth head, tank buster and vex chest for 3x gs 2x bom and dc?

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Can anyone confirm

strong forum
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confirming peepostudy

still pagoda
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maximum DPS

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maximum Eurobeat

strong forum
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well with Abyssal + Skitra + Mecha chest

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you can get 3x GS + 1x hod + 1dc

sweet summit
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Want bom tho

strong forum
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vex has gs+bom

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nzoth has gs+bom

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lockjaw shoulderpads has GS + DC

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so you could run those 3

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for 3x gs 2x bom 1x dc

sweet summit
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Not tank buster?

strong forum
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also has gs + dc

sweet summit
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Ok pog

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I have that

strong forum
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theyre identical

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actually

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i have both

sweet summit
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Lets GOOOO

strong forum
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lockjaw and tankbuster are exactly the same except tankbuster has CWH

sweet summit
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O

strong forum
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instead of tradewinds

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lmao

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never noticed

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EXACTLY THE SAME except tradewinds vs cwh

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LMAO

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mecha chest you can also run

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also has GS+bom+OP

sweet summit
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YOOOO

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Kinda hyped rn

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Ooo

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I can play that

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With ineffable ravager

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Oooo

strong forum
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i can basically play the same, except i use abyssal instead of nzoth

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3x gs + 2x bom + 1x dc

sweet summit
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Does it even work

strong forum
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testing

sweet summit
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Ive never tested it

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Nice

strong forum
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it should

sweet summit
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Ya

still pagoda
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With ineffable ravager
@sweet summit

No IT's tho

strong forum
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(ineffable will be gone= ye

sweet summit
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But like now

strong forum
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kek

sweet summit
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Before prepatch

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Gaming

strong forum
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already playing SL

still pagoda
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i think i'll test new Bolster build

strong forum
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in BFA

still pagoda
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and play some prot pala

modern brook
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if gs is busted i will have officially done 2 things for prot warriors this expac

sweet summit
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Bull u are big wrinkly brain

modern brook
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i get it from my big wrinkly muscles and also that i play 3x bom on arms

still pagoda
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Bullfango for SF

strong forum
still pagoda
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WUT

sweet summit
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I coomed

still pagoda
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i need more tea now

modern brook
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Its time to ๐Ÿฅณ

still pagoda
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this is definitely a GS racing time

sweet summit
strong forum
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thats gonna be a fat armor boost in SL

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MASSIVELY

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armor boosting

still pagoda
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pack out your Eurobeat memes, we're gonna ravager pipes

modern brook
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YO and tomorrow/wednesday is necrotic

sweet summit
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How much u getting

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Str

pastel sleet
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lol. im glad i asked the question

sweet summit
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YO BULL LETS GOOOO

strong forum
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9k str

sweet summit
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INEFFABLE GATHERING RAVAGER

still pagoda
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INEFFABLE GATHERING RAVAGER [2]

modern brook
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its the truth

still pagoda
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we're going into high speeds

modern brook
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do ravager ticks proc TD?

sweet summit
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Any yellow damage can

modern brook
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๐Ÿ‘€

still pagoda
modern brook
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this is a good build

sweet summit
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Even AAs

modern brook
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aas are white ๐Ÿ˜ 

still pagoda
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Erga

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can i borrow your IT gear?

sweet summit
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But that doesnt increase its proc raye or anything

still pagoda
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and Tankbuster shoulders

strong forum
sweet summit
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Ya sure ill mail it

strong forum
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im gaming

sweet summit
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Thats HOT

still pagoda
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Thats HOT

strong forum
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yo thats gonne be mad parry

sweet summit
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91 neck :/

strong forum
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9k str + 35% parry from rav

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yeah what about it, i didnt do AP since 75

sweet summit
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Str increases parry too peepostudy

strong forum
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thats all passive gain brudda

sweet summit
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Yuge

still pagoda
sweet summit
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Now

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Block

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And uhhh

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Idk, spyglass

strong forum
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im parrying

sweet summit
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Or an on use crit WQ trinket

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And game

strong forum
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okay this is busted

pastel sleet
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YESSSS

sweet summit
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Gachigasm

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Now, full ineffable

strong forum
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77% parry just through ravager

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dun have

sweet summit
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:/

still pagoda
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IT'S OVER 9000!

strong forum
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VOP

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MAJOR

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ah nvm

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thats only for arms

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my bad

sweet summit
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Oof

modern brook
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SMH nom

sweet summit
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WV major

still pagoda
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i think you need mass taunt major

sweet summit
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WORLD VEIN MOAR STRENGTH

still pagoda
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^

strong forum
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thats with goreblock proc

sweet summit
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Joocy

strong forum
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lets try with WV

novel ruin
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๐Ÿ‘€

still pagoda
pastel sleet
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you testing in ptr?

strong forum
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na thats bfa

still pagoda
sweet summit
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Poogies

still pagoda
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time for this baby

strong forum
modern brook
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๐Ÿ˜ฎ

strong forum
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thats with WV

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almost 31k str

sweet summit
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AAAAAAA

modern brook
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Q: does CR get good if every cast of revenge is free?

still pagoda
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

strong forum
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probably Bull

still pagoda
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IT'S OVER 9000!!!

modern brook
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probably not better than 2nd bom

sweet summit
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Eheheh

modern brook
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ALTHOUGH

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HANG ON

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ULTIMATE TECH

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you dont need clap anymore

still pagoda
sweet summit
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100% parry and u dont need BoM peepostudy

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Makes sense

still pagoda
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are we making prot into a parry monster?

modern brook
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stand aside VDH

still pagoda
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i don't even have a DH

modern brook
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it was a rhetorical vdh

strong forum
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man ravager does 0 dmg

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this was 20seconds

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of 31k+ str and critproc

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on 4 targets

modern brook
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shout outs to ravager, beating out your 3 casts of devastate

sweet summit
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Ya no shit its poop

strong forum
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its just so sad to see

sweet summit
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But it kinda owns

modern brook
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๐Ÿฅณ

sweet summit
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Just seeing you little boi spinning on the floor

strong forum
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like it crit for 5k

sweet summit
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Doing its best

strong forum
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5k

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thats less than 1 point of dmg per strength

modern brook
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SL Ravager does real damage right?

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i remember hearing that

sweet summit
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Ya

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It SLAPS

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Hard

still pagoda
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yea

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it does damoooooge

sweet summit
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Might leave a mark

strong forum
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shout outs to ravager, beating out your 3 casts of devastate
@modern brook it was 1 cast of devastate

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3 casts of devastate wouldve done more than 1 ravager does on 4 targets

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๐Ÿ™ƒ

modern brook
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I was hoping for the best :^(

strong forum
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man

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how is this even allowed

still pagoda
strong forum
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eh

still pagoda
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yes, doing all sorts of shit with my WA's again

strong forum
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"your WAs"

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thats just impostor naowh ui

still pagoda
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lets be honest. The idea came from @steep bone trying to copy Naowh's UI

modern brook
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๐Ÿ˜ฎ

sweet summit
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#makeRavagerGreatAgain

still pagoda
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i took his fork, redid few things and continued to use it

sweet summit
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#JusticeForRavager

still pagoda
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๐Ÿ™ƒ

strong forum
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this is the most active erga has been since becoming ๐Ÿ’›

still pagoda
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^

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i will never be yellow

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because 50% of what i'm doing here is Initial D prot warri shitposting

sweet summit
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Man

strong forum
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same

sweet summit
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I love ravager

strong forum
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evidently

still pagoda
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maybe i really need to start series of dirtbag guides on how to pad like a total scumbag

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and post it on MMO-C

strong forum
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dont forget to pick wrong talents though

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otherwise it wouldnt fit

still pagoda
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don't forget to pick wrong talents ignore mechanics and continue long forgotten tradition of Asmongold

modern brook
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How did erga get yello

sweet summit
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I dont know peepostudy

still pagoda
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5k rio

modern brook
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๐Ÿ˜ฆ I think im 900 io rn

sweet summit
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Thats a low bar

modern brook
still pagoda
modern brook
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T-T

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My main is stil llower than 3.3

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I managed to push 3k, and then i looked up and realized its the new 1.5k

sweet summit
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WE GO AGAIN

strong forum
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cuz erga used to be helpful

still pagoda
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my M+ group died 3 weeks after forming

modern brook
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^ same

novel ruin
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๐Ÿ˜ฆ

sweet summit
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"Used to" Sadge

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I helped twice today

strong forum
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work work work

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off i go then

modern brook
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Doesnt the peasent only say work work, @strong forum ?

autumn pendant
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I can only confirm

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4.5k rio wont get you yellow

modern brook
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1.5 wont either smh

strong forum
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But 3.8 does

novel ruin
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They must have secret numbers chosen

steep bone
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lets be honest. The idea came from @steep bone trying to copy Naowh's UI
@still pagoda @strong forum that's because i copied naowh UI since it's lit af and then karton took it and modified for his own needs.

||apart from that, his UI is giga scammaz, after i imported it comparing to what i did was literally 80% the same||

exotic spoke
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Its almost like you have to be helpful, friendly, and knowledgable right @strong forum

still pagoda
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@steep bone i took WA's from yours. ElvUI profile is a bootleg of something trashy i've picked up from wago.io and made it actually working

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it is like making old iconic Japanese cars work again

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pure necrophilia

strong forum
halcyon pasture
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Are we expecting SL changes?

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Wrong channel

steep bone
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Me doing dungeon as healer
seeing pwar sitting on 100 rage and not using sb or ip
Me asking why is that
"noob i know what im doing"

still pagoda
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He's basically a healing dummy for ya

steep bone
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i just heartstone'd

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xD

still pagoda
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What key level it was?

steep bone
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that was m0

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xD

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my druid is just 400 ;_;

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and i was topping damagi catweaving while healing that dummy ;_;

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imagine how shit it was XD

still pagoda
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Now you know what healing pug tanks is

steep bone
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when i was leveling and my elitist addon showed me someone has cds but not using when taking dmg i didnt heal until they dropped giga low and actually used defensive yep

still pagoda
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yep that elitist addon being WA with ZT

steep bone
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why would i heal as druid when i can heal just tank and let my hots top others while i can pump damagi

still pagoda
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Play MW

steep bone
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i did

still pagoda
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You can heal and do damoooooge at the same time

steep bone
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id rather kms

still pagoda
steep bone
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druid is love

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mw feels yikes

still pagoda
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Well, me playing on MW felt like every tank was a DK

steep bone
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dks can kinda self sustain to some extent

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you mean bdk with no ds used?

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๐Ÿ˜„

still pagoda
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Bdk is one hell of hp rollercoaster

steep bone
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well ye, just track their runic power

still pagoda
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With misusage of ds and bad marrowrends

steep bone
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and check bone shield stacks

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ez clap

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play two classes at the same time basically

still pagoda
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Of course i would do this

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Tell dummy pug dks to stop playing wrong first

steep bone
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oh ofc

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just let them die until they learn that they play class that can survive alone alot and shouldn't rely on healer spam exclusively them 24/7 having no time to hot/heal others

still pagoda
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Fuck, blood tap is in talents. No another button to fill empty space in WAs

steep bone
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you'll get kicked before that happens but yep

still pagoda
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Well, pala is my alt and one of bis prot legos in SL is also good on holy

steep bone
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rip my bdk monk dreams

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no space for fun specs

still pagoda
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BrM is not fun

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Boring autopilot

steep bone
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lets be honest, we play tank not because we like it, just because we will do it better than plebs we play with

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and not because its fun

still pagoda
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"but you're inting not playing brm on any prog"

steep bone
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i mean i cba fotm or not fotm

still pagoda
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Heard that bullshit many times from multiple people

steep bone
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ill just play whatever is fotm for encounters

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for one simple reason, im not in guild with super good players so making it easier for them is faster kills

still pagoda
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Including that one guy who is now a tank instead of me in my now previous guild ๐Ÿ˜

steep bone
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if you unironically say such bullshit and you're not actually needing fotm to push high ranks just ๐Ÿ‘‰ ๐Ÿšช weird

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ive heard that arguments so many times Y U NO PLAYING FOTM M8

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Y U NO FULL VERSE IN MY +13 aiming for +2 RUN

still pagoda
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But who cares, if he fails to deliver any good performance in raid, it's on him and on gm whos main reason to swap me out was this guy

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I know i'm rough around the edges, but at least i'm improving and not pretending that i'm great or anything

steep bone
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best: they all gonna think you're pleb with no knowledge

still pagoda
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I'm not in the guild anymore

steep bone
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oh

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u left?

still pagoda
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Moved on and was poached 2 days after

steep bone
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oh

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as tank?

still pagoda
#

Yup

steep bone
#

nice

still pagoda
#

To be honest, any times you see gm swapping out tank trials who did fine and showed they can improve and adapt fast for some random 5k rio fotm roller who played dps in raids all that time before, you better run

steep bone
#

ofc

sweet summit
#

๐Ÿ‘€

steep bone
#

hi @sweet summit

agile stag
#

whats fotm (

sweet summit
#

๐Ÿ‘‹ peepoHappy

#

Flavour of the Month i think is the term

steep bone
#

flavor of the month

#

flavour*

sweet summit
#

Basically just rerolling whatever is best

agile stag
#

aaaaaaah thanks xd

steep bone
#

or in other words: you're nohand and gotta play whatever is easiest/best or u fall behind in performance

delete if too harsh

still pagoda
#

Nothing can be too harsh

sweet summit
#

Some people do prefer/enjoy to reroll often, to whatever is best

#

I dont see the issue with that

steep bone
#

aye

#

me for example

#

but there are also people with mindset that if you're not fotm you cannot do xyz content

agile stag
#

Yeah. But i think spells are for children, so i just stick with my protwarr

sweet summit
#

Imean they are correct, to some extent ๐Ÿ‘€

#

Just the bar is a lot higher than people expect

steep bone
#

but people with that mindset are hardstuck in content where they don't need fotm

spare estuary
#

Hey guys wondering if any of you know how to put the intervene and charge ability into 1 macro?
Looking for something like
Harm:charge / Help:intervene

#

Since those abilities get swapped around in shadowlands Iโ€™d like to be prepared

sweet summit
#

#showtooltip Charge
/cast [target=mouseover,help,exists,nodead]Intervene;Intervene
/cast [target=target,harm,exists,nodead]Charge;Charge

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Mouseover for intervene and target for charge

spare estuary
#

Thank you very much!!

#

Whilst weโ€™re at it, I used to love prot warrior during WoD and early Legion. But I havenโ€™t played it in BFA, but Iโ€™m reading that warrior will have some issues in shadowlands.

sweet summit
#

Nah, we're solid

spare estuary
#

But I know I can tank med game easily

#

Yeah thatโ€™s what I thought

#

But why does everyone say that prots are at the bottom of the tier list

#

Is it because they are no longer the top notch bfa tank?

sweet summit
#

Uninformed/misinformed?

#

I dont know :p

steep bone
#

many people have blindfold and doesn't see anything inbetween and if something isn't absolute top then it's trash for them

spare estuary
#

Probably but even larger content creators are saying prot has its issues but as I view the talents

#

We have great aoe perspective

sweet summit
#

Our biggest issue rn, is the same issue we're always had afaik, gaps in mitigaion (shield block)

spare estuary
#

Yeah but thatโ€™s just cd management and knowledge

sweet summit
#

But they buffed the fuck out of vanguard to compensate

#

So we have 100% strength to armor now, on beta

spare estuary
#

And with kyrian spear we can easily kite

sweet summit
#

Yeah, warriors are very mobile. Can easily kite without spear too

spare estuary
#

Yes and legendary there is 1 real viable one as I understood?

#

Thunderlord to clap the cheeks again?

sweet summit
#

Thunderlord and VitSac are great atm

#

VitSac might be bugged?

spare estuary
#

And the mirror lego?

sweet summit
#

Got a heavy nerf

#

Not as strong

spare estuary
#

Ah okay

#

Yeah I havenโ€™t gotten any beta play in but Iโ€™m leveling my first horde warrior atm for shadowlands

#

All I know is what I have read

sweet summit
#

You can play around on the PTR if youd like to get a general feel

#

But thats obv with essences/azerite still in play

spare estuary
#

Might try that today as Iโ€™m waiting for a legion invasion for the class mount

sweet summit
steep bone
spare estuary
#

Ah my bad I joined this disc for these questions haha

sweet summit
#

No worries mate

steep bone
#

dw, im also making that mistake with talking on slands prot instead of here

spare estuary
#

Hahaha warriors arent chosen for their brains

steep bone
#

this is friendly af discord tbh

#

and you have erga here so even better

#

and ofc mwahi and nome

#

and me and karton yep

sweet summit
ionic fern
sweet summit
#

๐Ÿƒ

steep bone
#

@ionic fern haven't you played resto?

ionic fern
#

Resto what?

steep bone
#

resto droid

ionic fern
#

VitSac might be bugged?
@sweet summit IS bugged.

#

Yes.

#

A bit, mostly the Real Resto tho.

#

Shaman > Druid.

steep bone
#

is there any legit catweaving introduction

#

shaman feels giga slow with healing but is love i agree

still pagoda
ionic fern
#

Oh, you mean on SL?

#

I got no idea.

still pagoda
#

No one knows

steep bone
#

not sl

#

for now

still pagoda
#

But technically, just roll pala

steep bone
#

i mean ye few days left

still pagoda
#

Get fun

ionic fern
#

Yeah, you can still Catweave.

#

There was a post somewhere

still pagoda
#

One week before prepatch

steep bone
#

id need full glimmer set

#

and full IT ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

still pagoda
#

๐Ÿ˜

#

I have an idea

topaz ember
#

I canโ€™t wait for corruptions to go. Was hoping for a bigger raid nerf but oh well

still pagoda
#

I just need to get my pala to 60 once sl launches

#

And survive this whole wait for it

ionic fern
still pagoda
#

^

steep bone
#

thanks \o/

still pagoda
#

Questionably Epic is indeed epic

undone sun
#

Questionably so @still pagoda

sweet summit
still pagoda
#

only

#

It's only 5% below PoE avoidance cap

strong forum
#

Only 27k Str

#

There's more Str to be had

sweet summit
#

how

cinder pasture
#

Only 2% leech...

sweet summit
#

str gem>crit gem or?

strong forum
#

I have ~31k Str

#

With WV + rav

#

So idk chief

#

477 ilvl

sweet summit
strong forum
#

Git gud then

#

Void minor

#

Maybe

#

Is that mainstat or just secondary

sweet summit
#

uhh

#

o 800 str

#

could get more with food and flask

strong forum
#

Big

sweet summit
#

bout to head into a ML22 or a ToS21 if i can find people that still play the game deswind

strong forum
#

With that build?

#

Isnt it skittish or smth

sweet summit
#

bolstering skittish

#

oh no

#

yes, ineffable gathering ravager ๐Ÿ“ˆ

strong forum
#

He's gaming

autumn pendant
#

Hmm

#

I still play the game

#

IF YOU WERENT HORDIE I WOULD DO IT WITH YOU

still pagoda
#

๐Ÿ™‚

#

just go horde already

#

alli is dead

#

especially on EU

#

and RU to an extent

autumn pendant
#

Lol no

#

I have friends here

#

Why would I leave alli

#

And alli is suprisingly still alive

sweet summit
#

ineffable gathering ravager is not very effective against anything

novel ruin
#

BG3

chilly brook
#

Baldurs gate 3 in like an hour and a half

#

Too bad I'm at work

sweet summit
#

whats that

strong forum
#

BG3 but only early access

#

Not worth!

still pagoda
novel ruin
#

@strong forum leave heathen

strong forum
#

Na I'll nolife it christmas 2021

brittle owl
#

bg 3 ๐Ÿ‘

chilly brook
#

@strong forum

modern brook
#

@sweet summit truly a sad day; hopefully 10/13 bears better news

sweet summit
#

its fun tho

chilly brook
#

Cant wait to get home and play BG3

sonic tangle
#

Saaame

coarse meadow
#

hey guys we are doing a Full tank Nyalotha H raid right now, if someone has at least TD 3 and Warden 3 and is bored, just ask โค๏ธ

sweet summit
#

blacklisted from allstars anyway cojo

mellow patio
#

The term is exclusion list

#

Thank you very much

sweet summit
#

you're welcome

modern brook
#

I've gotten 3 different 475 1h's from my weekly chest

#

im still rocking a 440 shield :^)

#

incase anyone wanted to know what true pain felt like

sharp herald
#

i got 2 475 rings in a row ๐Ÿ‘ it's the EXACT same ring ๐Ÿ‘Ž

#

but yeah i had a 440 shield for a long time that i had to get from pvp

#

just because i couldn't drop one

#

eventually fetched a 465 from end of dungeon cuz thank god the hpal didn't need

modern brook
#

lol I've been rocking the 440 for about 12 weeks now

dull bone
#

can anyone link me a good prot guide?

limpid pawn
undone sun
dull bone
#

ok ty

still pagoda
#

@limpid pawn typical redditor brainfart moment

remote tusk
sweet summit
#

Joocy

strong forum
#

Just in time

steep bone
#

I'd be pissed that its mechagon weapon

#

xD

sweet summit
#

Huh

steep bone
#

isnt that mechagon weapon

#

am i delusional ;_;

remote tusk
#

Hmm

#

The debuff cannot Crit unlike Geti's debuff

#

๐Ÿ˜ฆ

sweet summit
#

Its the WCM one

steep bone
#

oh

#

rip me

#

but ive noob excuse, i haven't done m+ in a long time so dunno

#

\o/

graceful pine
#

hi Team, quick query on Azerite armour - for raiding, is bastion of might far above others and still the go to target? What would be the three BiS pieces? I have pretty much everything (mythic Nzoth & Cara pieces too)

steep bone
#

bastion is bis yes in all scenarios.
Abyssal malovesomething helmet from m+
Skitra shoulders
Vexiona chest

Are bis pieces

sweet summit
#

For like pure dpsmonging i believe youd want 3x HoD+some BfI and maybe a BoM or two. But thats a sim question.
For just general raid tanking you can run whatever you run in m+ like: 3x BoM, 1x DC 2x HoD/CWH/MS etc

steep bone
#

and that's why i will never be good soul, because there's erga with more detailed answers

#

;_;

graceful pine
#

Nzoth helm and Cara shoulders not feasible then? I pretty much just raid log and clear Cara/nzoth these days, thought it'd be fun to see what dps i can do with prot ๐Ÿ˜Š

#

Can theoretically get BFI x1, DC x1, BoM X2 and HODx2 I think

sweet summit
#

Throw it onto raidbots. 99% of your survivabiliry comes from pressing the right buttons anyway

graceful pine
#

That I can do ;) I shall give it a whirl, Ty!

strong forum
#

But not elemental whirl!

graceful pine
#

Roger

sweet summit
#

Ele whirl is decent it was just a bad pun!

steep bone
#

not using blood siphon weird

steep bone
#

@sweet summit are u here?

strong forum
#

Rosjen is gone

steep bone
#

๐Ÿ˜ฆ

sweet summit
#

hello there

still pagoda
#

it's an evil clone of Rosjen

steep bone
#

are you busy ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

sweet summit
#

in a league game

steep bone
#

REE

#

maybe you karton

sweet summit
#

whats up

steep bone
#

wanna do +15 for my droid xD?

still pagoda
#

nah, i'm here just for 10 minutes

#

then off to do uni studies

steep bone
#

waow imagine studies

sweet summit
#

ill prob lose soon

steep bone
#

we got some giga pumpers

#

hoping for timer but who knows

#

KEKW

still pagoda
#

waow imagine studies
@steep bone

Chem lecture Hydrate

modern brook
#

For like pure dpsmonging i believe youd want 3x HoD+some BfI and maybe a BoM or two. But thats a sim question.
For just general raid tanking you can run whatever you run in m+ like: 3x BoM, 1x DC 2x HoD/CWH/MS etc
@sweet summit we dont use endless fury or whatever that AA trait was?

#

REckless flurry

still pagoda
#

there's almost no pure single target fights in ny'alotha

#

only Shad'har

modern brook
#

oh yeah

#

that makes sense

#

interesting that its not used there either tho

#

maybe too many stats just gets you there

steep bone
#

only Shad'har
@still pagoda and xanesh and skitra and maut ๐Ÿ˜›

sweet summit
#

xanesh isnt ST Pepexecute

steep bone
#

and raden

#

:v

#

i mean technically uve adds

sweet summit
#

neither is raden

still pagoda
#

Xanesh isn't ST

#

Skitra isn't ST

#

Raden isn't ST

#

Maut dies too fast for autos to do much

steep bone
#

raden was st for me since i wasnt assigned to do any orb ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

still pagoda
steep bone
#

but i still execute pad :v

still pagoda
#

orb-orb-orb-orb

steep bone
#

i mean

#

raden omg

sweet summit
#

adds questionmark

steep bone
#

i dont touch :v

sweet summit
#

???

steep bone
#

i mongo raden vision

#

wait were on prot channel

#

LULW

sweet summit
#

even if you played arms or whatever you still SS cleave them

steep bone
#

if you bother to press it yes

#

xD

sweet summit
#

????

steep bone
#

messing with you

still pagoda
#

140k dps opener as a tank is not a dream

steep bone
#

sometimes ive had gigantic openers

#

legit gigantic

#

and then no procs rest of the fight

#

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

chilly brook
#

240k on pull

#

/dab

steep bone
#

let's be honest

#

you should all play true tank which is bear tank

sweet summit
#

imposter

still pagoda
#

weird no

steep bone
#

make prot third dps spec, ez clap

still pagoda
#

make prot third dps spec, ez clap

Glad stance

steep bone
#

big boi no shield stance

#

why would you use shield where you can become bear

chilly brook
#

Why would you settle for just a shield when you can have a shield and the LIGHT

steep bone
#

or enh shaman tank LULWERS

#

and be pink?

#

Why would you settle for just a shield when you can have a shield and the LIGHT
@chilly brook but tbh lightforged draenei pala, aoe opener with racial hmm or ret opener with racial and all burst on skittish week weird

#

If horde only had lightโ€™S judgment

modern brook
#

imagine needing a flashlight

#

smh

#

Just use the shield 4head

steep bone
#

Just play bear im telling You

topaz ember
#

Bear trash ew STINKY

steep bone
#

hehe ghost ping

ionic fern
#

?

steep bone
#

i wanted to summon you so you can defend my words that bear tank is love

#

but then i realized how lowkey retarded is that

ionic fern
#

Good.
I would have slapped you.

#

๐Ÿ˜‚

steep bone
undone sun
slow steppe
#

this may be not the place, but can anyone tell me why, whne i run the macro to see if I can get the protection warrior hidden artifact skin, sometimes i get False, True but other times i get False, False?

mellow patio
warm plinth
#

Um, idk, but you don't need that script

#

You only need the script for quest 44311

#

If it's true, you can get the appearance; if it's false, you can't

rigid edge
#

Any tips on essences and talents for a prot warrior trying to do the 5 mask run and failing? ๐Ÿ˜…

sweet summit
#

m+ talents and raid essences basically

#

full TD

#

cyclotronic blast in mechagon trinket

strong forum
#

And don't rush it

#

Don't overpull shit you don't know.

#

Play the mechanics

#

Just like everything else in the game

rigid edge
#

Yeah I've been trying so far, I've also checked some videos on runs but somehow my damage seems a lot lower than their (similar ilvl)

strong forum
#

Press your buttons better, no secrets to it

#

Literally, TC SS on CD, don't fumble buttons

#

And TD, helps a ton

novel ruin
#

And bosses will take some time so play them correctly

rigid edge
#

I'll keep trying then, haha, thanks guys ๐Ÿ˜„

steep bone
sweet summit
#

๐Ÿ—ž๏ธ

steep bone
#

@rigid edge also for super safety you can get voidsomething food, it regens 2% of your life every 3s or some, its overkill but then you can get stunned and just be like coffee time

sweet summit
#

isnt that ghastly goulash

steep bone
#

or goulash actually

#

ye

rigid edge
#

Oh I'll check it out! Thanks for the video ๐Ÿ˜„ and yeah that's it, I've been using it

steep bone
#

good old times when waifu haven't had ANY vers amps ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

strong forum
#

24min

#

slow

sweet summit
#

whats the current speedrun any% record

strong forum
#

idk but mine was pretty damn close to 10min

steep bone
#

i think i recorded that for some guy that was struggling with it

#

he's been active here alot

strong forum
#

was prolly Erga

sweet summit
#

:/

steep bone
#

and was a clicker if i reckon

#

nah, erga was helping me getting 19UR done but failed

#

:v

sweet summit
#

:(

steep bone
#

PPL BEING AMAZINGLY TERRIBLE ON LAST BOSS ;___;

still pagoda
#

Thrall is pepegaeasy lul

steep bone
#

first times i did orgri i was like i need drums for rexxar, then i was like but with drums ive too many boars to deal with. my SONITY :((

strong forum
steep bone
#

but tbh TD goes brrrr

#

damn

#

lemme guess, dh?

strong forum
#

either that or 1min mage

#

the site is down

sweet summit
#

hmmm

strong forum
#

but my close to 10min run was all chest full zone clears

#

could prolly go faster if i skipped all chests

#

but cba

steep bone
#

last week or week before i spent like 6m in silvermoon last boss

#

entered with half arms half fury traits as fury boosting friend weird

still pagoda
steep bone
#

Eyir rocks

gilded tendonBOT
#

thank u @steep bone

still pagoda
#

Eyir socks

gilded tendonBOT
#

๐Ÿงฆ

still pagoda
#

need more tea and warmer socks now

steep bone
#

Eyir sucks rock sock

gilded tendonBOT
#

fuk u @steep bone

chilly brook
#

Eyir sux

mellow patio
#

Eyir socks

gilded tendonBOT
#

๐Ÿงฆ

steep bone
#

eyir sucks rocks socks

gilded tendonBOT
#

fuk u @steep bone

#

thank u @steep bone

#

๐Ÿงฆ

stark sage
#

eyir cocks

mellow patio
#

Lame

#

Fel hammer would have come through for you there

stark sage
#

๐Ÿ˜”

#

@fierce juniper eyir cocks when

fierce juniper
sweet summit
#

:MonkaCreep:

steep bone
#

i haven't seen green guy here yet

#

hi green nickname

mellow patio
steep bone
still pagoda
steep bone
strong forum
#

who dis

#

reveal yourself

steep bone
#

๐Ÿ‘€

still pagoda
steep bone
#

i know who dis not peepoHappy

still pagoda
#

all my paladins are named Memphie

#

dunno who that is

strong forum
#

maybe its Jdotb

steep bone
#

Ive seen falling star ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

#

And i wish for warriors to be fotm so we have many new people here yep

strong forum
#

no

still pagoda
#

yep why not

#

not fotm, but at least good in the eyes of community so that people are not turned away

#

we all know prot is good :)

void plaza
#

I had to mute my friend today

#

dude told me DH best tanks for SL

#

had to hit him with the Hakai

strong forum
#

theres no "Best tank" in SL right now

#

all of em suck hard

#

tbh

#

except pally dmg maybe

mellow patio
#

Prot is the worst need more buffs

chilly brook
#

DH feels good on beta

#

And it does pretty good damage

#

Although I haven't played it since the nerf to Venthyr

undone sun
#

It's considerably strong, but best is subjective

chilly brook
#

Soooo

#

But there are some big things that make me question blizz's decision making in regards to DH

void plaza
#

Monk is the king

#

lol

chilly brook
#

@strong forum yea they suck hard because I no longer get to ignore everything with vers stacking

strong forum
#

terriblke

chilly brook
#

Actually the worst expansion to be a tank :kappa

undone sun
#

Monk in keys OMEGALUL

still pagoda
#

Actually the worst expansion to be a tank :kappa
@chilly brook

Well, it'll be fine

#

just need to get accustomed to never pugging and getting all into healer favouritism

chilly brook
#

I'm just kidding

still pagoda
#

i know, it's just that nerfs may not go away

chilly brook
#

People complained hard about tanking at the start of BFA

still pagoda
#

:)

chilly brook
#

But then they all adjusted

still pagoda
#

well, after Legion...

undone sun
#

Well, after mop...

chilly brook
#

And lo and behold it was the best balanced expansion in terms of tank balance

undone sun
#

Hot take Wednesday

sweet summit
#

you're a hot take ๐Ÿ˜

chilly brook
#

I mean it was

#

Most of the pain points for tanks this expansion was "raid is boring"

#

Pretty much all the specs were viable even in high end raiding and keys

spare estuary
#

Guys i need some help with another macro

#

Ive seen several prot warriors using spell reflect and their char calls out Dont kick or something

#

how do i make that?

steep bone
#

it's just weak aura

#

make aura with trigger: buff, chose spell reflection, own only, and make it say whatever you want on chat when its on

#

@spare estuary i can make you one, sec

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in Actions tab you can change text to whatever you want, and if you also want to announce when it's finished click 'Chat Message' under On Hide and put any text you want, and change message type to say, unless you want it to be said specifically on party chat for example

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Do i need to do anything with this WA except for importing?

steep bone
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if you just import it'll work only in dungeons and say Spell Reflect UP! DON'T KICK whenever you used spell reflection

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in load tab you can change where you want it to be loaded

spare estuary
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What do you mean by that? i am a noob in weakauras haha

steep bone
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what do i mean?

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in load tab you can change where you want it to be loaded
@steep bone

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Where you awnt it to be loaded

steep bone
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like if you want it to work in only dungeons, raids, or everywhere

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Do you mean in overworld or dugneon

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aaah eys

steep bone
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i made it so it works only in dungeons

spare estuary
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okay lovely thats the majority of my being ๐Ÿ˜›

steep bone
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because in raids its kinda pepega

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and in pvp can cause confusion

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;d

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just open load tab and actions tab, it's pretty simple to configure ;d

spare estuary
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yeah i found that

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thank you very much

steep bone
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you're welcome

spare estuary
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do you happen to have a nice looking weakaura that tracks rage/import abilities?

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been looking for one but on wago i found several that were kinda buggy

steep bone
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i can give you my prot set stylized for naowh

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but not gonna share any of his weak auras since well, they're behind sub so kinda dick move if i did :p

spare estuary
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haha yeah kind of