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crude pond
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Thanks!

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I can't spell_reflection every Evoke anguish, can I?

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Due to its cooldown

steep bone
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evoke anguish was that thingy that applies debuff that leaves pool on the ground?

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if yes then yes you can reflect it

sullen valve
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Mwahi is dumb

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that is all

steep bone
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have balls and tag him

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or clowning

crude pond
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I mean every single one of them?

steep bone
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if you proc IT yes

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I usually do first > third, and then whenever available

crude pond
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So not in a row for the first two

steep bone
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well you can

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if you proc IT

crude pond
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Ah

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IT

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I see

steep bone
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yes innefable truth

crude pond
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I should pray for it

steep bone
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but i like doing third as that time you stack with second tank and my co-tank is bdk and he also can remove it

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and also you gotta be stacked to stack adds for immune soak

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well we do it that way, dunno about your tactics

crude pond
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Thanks. You seem like you've done lots of mythic nzoth

steep bone
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Dunno if that's many, just 8

crude pond
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If you don't mind, can you give me some sick tips for it?

steep bone
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Umm, not many tips there

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everything is scripted

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always gonna be the same

crude pond
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For both carapace and nzoth

steep bone
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when there's mind grasp or whatever that ability was called and you have adds on you face your back towards nzoth if you're pulled to him so adds not gonna melee your back (dunno if that even works during that stun grip)

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on cara you can reflect mannible slam

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DON'T REFLECT BOMB or you'll int hard :p

crude pond
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What happens when I reflect the bomb?

steep bone
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insta explode

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stun everyone in range

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and ofc you can berserker rage bomb stun

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so you won't get stunned

crude pond
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You mean fear

steep bone
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stun everyone in range
@steep bone in first phase you'll just tilt dps - or have weird phasing due to too low dps, depending on your dps. We're legit yelling at raiders to stop dps or we'd phase too early.
but if you explode later on in nzoth room it's usually a wipe

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the bomb thats on you stuns (or its fear in place, well whatever you can berserker rage it ;d) you and everyone in its range

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and you can berserk rage it

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also you can berserk rage beam on nzoth

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it'll do some damage like 1/3 of your health but you'll live

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another tip for nzoth, don't tank 2 adds at the same time, or if you do have big cds ready else you'll flip in second/third melee ;d

crude pond
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So ideally each tank takes one of them

steep bone
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that's a must kinda

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just mark one, so one takes mark always other one unmark

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ez

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if youll get two pop shield wall and call for taunt asap

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and dont let them hit your back

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it'll do like half hp in one hit

crude pond
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Everything hits hard it seems

steep bone
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it happens that if your dps is new to the fight or not really good you may have second set of adds before first one is done so you'll naturally have two

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nah

crude pond
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Kinda scares me

steep bone
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only basher if it casts

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and only adds

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everything else tickles

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well psychus can do some damage too if its not being kicked

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and you get several stacks

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if youre scared get nzoth trinket

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and equip some versa ;d

crude pond
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I'm definitely taking nzoth trinket

steep bone
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i went with full vers pillow once as i didnt care to swap gear and well i havent had to use anything at all

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when you have neurons and adds on you

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and youll see that ure gonna get dragged through one

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pop LPS before you get dragged

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ez clappo

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and stun those little guys that are on you

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dunno which mind gate youre in tho

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im in first

crude pond
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I should be the first one

steep bone
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Then its easy

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After your gate is over and ure done with bashers and have grasp mechanic

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I position myself far to the right (basher spawns far left so u gotta have leap) and i gather adds there and make sure to be away from others so u dont drain them from sanity

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Then once its over insta leap to basher or dps gonna get hit

crude pond
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I should memorize the exact location of adds spawn

steep bone
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you should have markers down

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oh adds

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they spawn around right side far from basher

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so if youre close to basher you're either gonna have to grab aggro and run there and cause mess and make ppl with paranoia life harder or just sit on right side and get them on you and then leap right after its over

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or if ure gonna be on the left then dps will have adds on them and thats bad

crude pond
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@steep bone thank you so much! Today's my first try and it helped a lot to prepare

steep bone
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enjoy ;d

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Oh if it's your first one, in mind gate, psychus doesn't have to be hugging tentacles to get stack, it can be quite far from it, also prioritize dodging shit on the ground and adds over dpsing psychus, and kick him on cooldown, and don't expose your back or he will hurt. Also don't be afraid to use SW or LPS

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but basically if you keep SB all the time with filling gaps with LS then it won't hurt at all

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also if we go out and im not pepega to get hit im out with 40 sanity, you shouldn't lose any sanity before that, so you've some room for fuckups

orchid flame
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are we still able to get the hidden artifact appearance for prot?

strong forum
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yes

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its a daily quest per character thingy now

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just needs to spawn

orchid flame
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so should i just keep relogging until i get it? or would i have to relog once a day to try to get it?

strong forum
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once per day

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the spam relogging has been fixed a couple months after it was released

orchid flame
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damn. alright i guess tomorrow is another day

honest plinth
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you can use trial chars for it

steep bone
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so should i just keep relogging until i get it? or would i have to relog once a day to try to get it?
@orchid flame You can make trial character of allied race, highmountain tauren is fastest one. You basically just go there and use macro, if nothing then delete and make new one until You get it. Then just get pwar artifact and use hidden appearance once You got it. Then relog (on character You unlocked it), get some weapon to apply hidden tmog on it and voila, You can use it on other warriors.

orchid flame
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@steep bone I did read about that, however I don’t have highmountain Tauren unlocked so it’s not really an option for me

steep bone
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Then any other one works too, just takes more time

orchid flame
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Got it

steep bone
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Not even allied race needed, but highmountain is starting close to that cave, thats why recommended

orchid flame
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Does it need to be an allied race or just any race?

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Ah just answered my q lol

steep bone
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Once u created it use hs, then fly there

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If You have nightborne its gonna be quick too 😄

strong forum
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our guilds SL trailer is ready :pog: dunno if im allowed to share it yet tho

novel ruin
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Share it!!

sweet summit
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do it greenbear

autumn pendant
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Do it

steep bone
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Just do it

hard sky
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stop the teasing

strong forum
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hf

crude pond
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Can I fear the Psychophage(small following adds) from Mythic N'zoth? I know they can be stunned

sweet summit
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yes

crude pond
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That's great. I can fear them right before I return to mindgrasp

still pagoda
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our guilds SL trailer is ready :pog: dunno if im allowed to share it yet tho
@strong forum
Heh, found myself a new place too

strong forum
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big

woven trellis
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so

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WS24 fortified

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do u go Lucid dream or CNS

sweet summit
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lucid

steep bone
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lucid for last boss is giga

novel ruin
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VoP is pretty good too for WS

sweet summit
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^

modern brook
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whatwould u take cns for?

distant crystal
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cns is just for vers amping really

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you can use it for necrotic to make kiting easier but that was never really a big prob eh

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or i guess if you wanna abuse it for cpt lockwood

steep bone
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cns is also nice because thats one button less to press yep

still pagoda
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One less gcd to struggle through

strong forum
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ohno, having guild meeting "mondays are gonna be progress"

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RL says "not necessarily"

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:KEKW

shut summit
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😬

novel ruin
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😮

still pagoda
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😬

distant crystal
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is it the fabled "optional prog night"

south yarrow
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if I just dumped an ""optional"" prog night on the raiders

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half of them would leave

strong forum
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thats not whats implied

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whats implied is "maybe we wont get to progress because we're stuck reclearing"

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thats the joke

south yarrow
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Oh, this sounded like it though:

ohno, having guild meeting "mondays are gonna be progress"

sturdy sable
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i thought every night was optional prog night

novel ruin
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Nom has to go to every night cuz he is a tank

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And a Prot tank at that so he has to earn his spot

strong forum
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i dont have to earn shit im officer

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im part of the reason why this guild has any CE's dont @ me

distant crystal
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5% of the reason

strong forum
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easily 20%+

distant crystal
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my guild has never killed n'zoth without me 😏

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and i didn't get my mount until kill 10

brittle owl
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i got the mount 3 times

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gave it away every single time

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every time, i'd milk it more and more that by the third, everyone was begging me and i held up random rolls for half an hour until i traded it away

strong forum
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what a nice guy 😢

brittle owl
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it's an ugly ass mount

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idgaf bout it

strong forum
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facts

brittle owl
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same with jaina mount

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water elemental, more like toilet elemental

strong forum
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yup

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KSM SL S1 is gonna look way better

brittle owl
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blizz would want you to think those are fish swimming in it

strong forum
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miss me with jaina mount

brittle owl
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it's actually just your turds

distant crystal
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jaina mount is the best mount of the xpac wdym

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but yeah n'zoth mount is fugly, hivemind is the better version

grand drum
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Best mount of expac is kings rest mount

novel ruin
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FH mount pretty good too

distant crystal
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i got the dollar store version

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i've done so many freeholds, underrots, and king's rests this xpac

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0 mounts

remote tusk
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Same

strong forum
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same

shut summit
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just get them

still pagoda
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easily 20%+
@strong forum

Tanks can't be carried in raids so...

strong forum
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Ask brms

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Or sco

timber nest
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there are no major tanking differences on mythic wrathion compared to heroic right?

quiet crypt
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the only difference is that you should minimize movement

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One tank usually stands to the left of Wrathion and one to the right so they can swap without moving

distant crystal
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or you can just run vision major and laugh in avatar

onyx vessel
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Does avatar reset stacks on wrathion?

distant crystal
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ye

onyx vessel
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Well wtf thats a joke then

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Basically heroic

brittle owl
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yep

lucid dew
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yo 475 gleaming eye or 460 vita

sweet summit
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Vita

real orchid
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anyone playing 24/25+ keys this week with VoP major? was playing with C&S major but can find it a bit annoying sometimes when things are semi stuck in sang cuz of clap. So that just means less clapping till mobs are completely outside of sang

sweet summit
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VoP is good, you can totally swap those around

onyx vessel
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Just run lucid

honest plinth
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Idk cns is fine for sanguine. Ye you clap less sometimes but it doesnt matter if you will not clap for 2 gcds

frigid forge
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Watching Rads old warrior guides will be my guide going into Shadowlands TOP 420 brain gameplay "truth"

strong forum
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420 🔥

woven trellis
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do u go

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CnS or llucid dream main for

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ToS24

strong forum
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Can't remember what I did, prolly cns

woven trellis
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ye it seems rly 50 50

prisma swift
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Hey all, does anyone know if there is a good active mitigation tracker in details, like Skada has? They have something that almost works, but it doesnt track shield block

strong forum
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Wdym by AM tracker in details

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Haven't used skada in like 5 years so idk what that does

prisma swift
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So in Skada they have a plugin called "Skada Avoidance and Mitigation: Helps tanks benchmark their damage reduction performance via avoidance and mitigation" and that will track your stats for keeping uptime of active mitigation

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I guess a better question would be, How do you have your details setup for active mitigation

strong forum
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Sound unnecessaryily convoluted.
Also benchmark against what, it depends on the boss you're fighting, dungeon you're playing

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My details is just dps and hps meter

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AM buff uptime I have weak auras for

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That track said buff

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Details has an avoidance thingy, but I've never used that ever

honest plinth
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@woven trellis lucid is good for 1st nad 3rd bosses and elem packs. Cns for 2nd and last boss and trash.

prisma swift
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Yea, I tried using the details but its kinda garbage because it doesnt take in block at all

sweet summit
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the best "active mitigation tracker" is logs tbh

prisma swift
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Oh yea, I use warcraft logs and wow analyzer post raid to look at performance

strong forum
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What exactly do you want out of the tracker, to see how much % you blocked and parried? Your best friend there would be logs ye

crude pond
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Why can't I deflect Event Horizon in the chamber of mythic N'zoth? I'm 100% sure the spell reflection was up when the debuff was applied to me.

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Had it been patched?

strong forum
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The spell isn't even mentioned in the reflect spreadsheet so I'd say it was never reflectable/deflectable

crude pond
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there is a spreadsheet? where can I find it?

strong forum
crude pond
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During the Chamber phase, the [npc=spell=318196] debuff can also be pre Anti-Magic Shelled. It is important to r the tank to run out when this debuff is applied so it does not get healed off in the raid. There are generally two ways of dealing with it, either the healers should try to heal through the absorb to trigger Annihilate when the tank is out, or they should completely ignore it and let the debuff time out on its own.

It's from wowhead mythic N'zoth guide, which made me think I could do that.

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anyway thanks for the sheet

still pagoda
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Why can't I deflect Event Horizon in the chamber of mythic N'zoth? I'm 100% sure the spell reflection was up when the debuff was applied to me.
@crude pond
The only 2 things worth to SR on mythic N'Zoth are tendie slams and anguish

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Last one helps immensely

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and

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if Event Horizon was deflectable

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it would cause an easy wipe

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just because you would deflect it right under everyone in the raid as an active tank

mellow patio
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I’m just a little confused why you would want/need to reflect that to begin with

still pagoda
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^

limpid pawn
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well, objectively it would make it easier if one event horizon was skipped

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but it's a pretty easy mechanic

brittle owl
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you can skip it with dps

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🤷‍♂️

meager night
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Hey guys as someone who’s recently started prot tanking, how do I know if I’m using shield block effectively? Like how can I tell which mobs are doing straight melee damage for shield block

sinful herald
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In reading on Icy veins that protection can be “more punishing than other tanks” how is that

novel ruin
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@meager night If tanking mobs keep block or last stand with bolster talent up. If those down, use Wall or kite. For m+ mobs its learning what does physical versus magical. Good thing is majority of things do physical so its learning the dangerous physical stuff and the magical side of things.

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@sinful herald Because BFA prot focuses on keeping a high uptime on shield block through shield block charges and refreshing those charges with the Bolster talent giving Last Stand the ability to have shield block during its duration. Anger Management Talent feeds into this loop so if you are not dumping your rage efficiently you could be losing out a ton of uptime on block plus losing damage/defensive value from lower Avatar uptime by not using Anger Management. So doing the loop poorly is punishing. Most other tanks arent like this.

meager night
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When it comes to using shield block vs ignore pain, is it using one or the other for mitigation or trying to have both up?

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I know the rotation more or less since it isn’t hard. Right now my biggest thing is just now which of the two to use for damage mitigation

chilly brook
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Dont overthink

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If it swings or shoots at you

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You block

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Spend excess rage on IP

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It's that simple

undone sun
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it's never either or, SB is active mitigation and IP is a damage buffer

chilly brook
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^^

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It's a really simple system that people like to overthink

undone sun
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most of the time you'll be using both, only in heavy magic scenarios like rixxa is where you lean away from using sb defensively

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very niche

chilly brook
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Press your damage buttons, use shield block on blockable hits, use IP to not cap rage

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Dont hold your CDs

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Prot warrior taught to you in 3 seconds

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Your learning curve isn't the class it's the fight and your application of your toolkit to that fight

onyx vessel
wheat tundra
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Hello guys.

I am at 61 corruption atm and im thinking about cleansing surging vitality III, so that i am left with 6 x versatile and 30 + corruption. Is that worth it?

topaz ember
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if your running over 60 corruption in any content your throwing

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not too up to date on which corruptions prot uses right now tho

sweet summit
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Yeah, you dont want to be above 60 unless you really know what youre getting yourself into.

Are you at max resistance?

topaz ember
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good point, he says he will be at 30 somthing corruption with only 6 versatile so i guess not? although not sure with the wording

sweet summit
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Yeah, same

wheat tundra
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Yeah, you dont want to be above 60 unless you really know what youre getting yourself into.

Are you at max resistance?
@sweet summit pretty much, yea

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i am at 23 corruption rn

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so yea. Difficult..

sweet summit
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Corruption resistance on cloak?

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Do you have ineffable truth?

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Can you fill with anything else?

chilly brook
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@sweet summit pretty much, yea
@wheat tundra

Pretty much ya so you're not at max resist

fast zephyr
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Hi, I have a question, on bloodmallet, Twilight Dev 3 is shown to be the highest damage corruption by a large margin for hectic add cleave, but I recently ran a key with a prot warrior running a full vers set, and doing a large amount of damage. In terms of damage, what should be looked for in terms of corruptions?

ebon hound
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Damage => Twilight Dev

still pagoda
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TD does exponentially more damage

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And you're already tanky enough to go zero vers in +22 keys

strong forum
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TD is the goat for dmg

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Warri is the tank that does the most dmg without relying on corruptions so don't get baited into thinking its cuz of corruptions alone

modern brook
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Hi, I have a question, on bloodmallet, Twilight Dev 3 is shown to be the highest damage corruption by a large margin for hectic add cleave, but I recently ran a key with a prot warrior running a full vers set, and doing a large amount of damage. In terms of damage, what should be looked for in terms of corruptions?
@fast zephyr He would have done more with twilight dev.

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I dont read responses sorry team 😦

sweet summit
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Its ok, you did great

modern brook
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💪

chilly brook
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Hey just in case you chose to ignore everyone else's response

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TD>>>>>>anything else for damage

novel ruin
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Each rank of TD adds about 2.5-3.5k dps

brittle owl
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only if you pull like a bitch

distant crystal
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if your TD's don't insta disappear you need to pull bigger tbh

mellow patio
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I will miss you TD

chilly brook
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I won't

brittle owl
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me neither

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die corruption die

mellow patio
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Yeah but now I don’t get to hear dps complain about how my corruption is RNG but theirs is SKILL

chilly brook
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Just be a prot paladin

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Pull big

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Drop your red slushy on the ground

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And laugh at their shitty dps

mellow patio
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Tf kind of nerd plays paladin

chilly brook
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Yo chief I'm just tryna get you some pumps

mellow patio
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I’ll collect my pumps elsewhere

modern brook
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I miss early season 2; when everyone was posting Damage meters with prot warrior like 30k above veryone else

chilly brook
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Sounds like season 1

modern brook
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season 1 was viable

mellow patio
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Will tuning make me viable

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Sorry, wrong chat

grand drum
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no, but being able to block [Shoot] will

distant crystal
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season 1 was can't block shoot + IP on gcd

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we still slapped dps but living was harder

sweet summit
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👢 🍵 👏

distant crystal
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boot soup clap? 🤔

sweet summit
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shoe salad applause

obsidian cairn
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Callous Reprisal or clockwork heart

distant crystal
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heart

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is big

sweet summit
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clockwork 100% of the time

obsidian cairn
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Overwhelming ot strength in numbers

sweet summit
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OP

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100% of the time

obsidian cairn
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Ok. 1 last question I have 2 pretty shitty helms. I have the choice between deafening crash and brace for impact. the other traits are op impassive and bloodport.

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That is keeping in mind I already have another deafening

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or the other option is the helm exactly the same just instead of an extra deafening it is Iron fortress and brace for impact. the other traits are op impassive and bloodport.

sweet summit
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BfI is good, OP is bis, IV is bis

fierce bobcat
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you only want 1 of deafening right?

sweet summit
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Yes

fierce bobcat
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so if its 2nd piece brace is better

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i'm trying to help carries some guildies for the 5 mask vision achieves now that i kinda have it down - the solo one for faceless title goes away at prepatch but we can do all the other achieves and mount all the way till 10/26?

sweet summit
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Id say so too. Id rate BfI slightly higher than IF, only because it "stacks"

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The rest should be doable afaik

fierce bobcat
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cool plenty of time left to mess around before being done with visions forever, most of yall who played through all of 8.3 prolly sick and tired of it by now lol

novel ruin
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Guys

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I'm sorry

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I got Bear

sweet summit
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):

fierce bobcat
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i'm stuck with my prot war 🙂

sweet summit
novel ruin
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Legggoooo

fiery dagger
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This is the way

still pagoda
mellow patio
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My wheel said holy priest so I’ll see you guys later

still pagoda
mellow patio
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Only casuals spin with just tanks

strong forum
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i spun with only warriors

mellow patio
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Respect

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How many on the wheel though

strong forum
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36

mellow patio
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Correct answer

still pagoda
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should have been 216

limpid pawn
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that feel when a troll messages you in trade chat, and you call them by their IRL name b/c google black belt

undone sun
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🆗

limpid pawn
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let me have this one

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i need it

stark sage
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🆗

limpid pawn
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it's the ok meta now

sick sentinel
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wow

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kyrian ability looks really nice,

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remove all debuff

still pagoda
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Oh

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Yogi

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You're awake

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Yes, it does

limpid pawn
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it's a 5 min cooldown

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that seems pretty long, but if the bleeds are not that frequent then it's awesome

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the spear ability, how hard was it nerfed?

covert spear
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anyone have any experience with the Mechagon shield? and if the proc is worth dropping stats

limpid pawn
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if its your highest ilevel yes

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if it's same ilvl as any other shield no

covert spear
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out of a box trumps my 465

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ty for the answer

sick sentinel
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i just want that ability period

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see a bunch of debuffs on me, hit it and they go away

devout basalt
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Any thoughts on this? Idont main warrior but I’d like to in SL

undone sun
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That's @hot locust, it's reputable

novel ruin
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@devout basalt Everything he is saying is what we have been saying since the changes came previously a month ago or so.

hot locust
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ohai

devout basalt
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I don’t suppose there will be changes before release

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Not that it matters, still playing prot lol

undone sun
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Still possible

novel ruin
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anything is possible

hot locust
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Not impossible, very improbable.

novel ruin
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^

hot locust
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It won't be as bad as 8.0 I think at least.

novel ruin
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If looking for major talent / gameplay changes to most specs i would be betting on 9.1 instead of launch

undone sun
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Class changes mid expac OMEGALUL

novel ruin
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They did it to warrior in 8.1

devout basalt
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Think it will make finding a group more difficult or nah

novel ruin
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Not as a tank

brittle owl
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Class changes mid expac OMEGALUL
@undone sun prot warr and vdh 8.1/8.2 🤷‍♂️

steep bone
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So, is ravager a thing

sweet summit
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in BFA? no
in SL? yes

steep bone
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/unsub

sweet summit
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but ineffable ravager ;))

novel ruin
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Ravager is a thing in BFA. Is it a good thing? Yes, FOR THE PARRY

chilly brook
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No u

novel ruin
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@sweet summit Among Us when?

sweet summit
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if we clear fast enough, yeah

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tonite

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/soon idk what time youre on

novel ruin
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im on all afternoon/evening. have raid in just under 6 hours

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Been doing Homework and selling keys

still pagoda
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what time are you guys planning on?

#

i've finally beaten Dark Souls 1

sweet summit
#

@novel ruin @autumn pendant it is time

autumn pendant
#

is it

sweet summit
#

yes

autumn pendant
#

it is time then

novel ruin
#

yes it is time

sweet summit
#

poggers!!

limpid pawn
#

i wish some of the mid tier TCG mounts looked better

ember arrow
#

wow good?

still pagoda
#

Fine

#

Always good enough during first weeks of new content

blissful thicket
#

is there a haste cap for prot?

sweet summit
#

Nope

#

No reachable haste cap to worry about

steep bone
#

Prot with expedients yep

onyx vessel
#

Stack expedients as prot

steep bone
#

not stack, just using arms gear in prot as i was unlucky to have TDs 😄

#

maybe my haste is overkill but feels good to play

#

tbh huge haste should be available for everyone, haste is love, haste is life.

onyx vessel
#

Playing arms

#

What a meta slave

steep bone
#

wdym

onyx vessel
steep bone
#

prot gear doesnt work for furry

#

;_;

#

and everything i dropped was haste something with close to no crit

onyx vessel
#

Have 3 sets

steep bone
#

started too late as war to have 3

onyx vessel
steep bone
#

but owning dungeons as arms is fun, yesterday some mage was like wtf this war is insane, especially with td3 that's proccing like madman xD

onyx vessel
#

Using td as arms

steep bone
#

aye

#

i gotta use one td3 or not enough corrupt

onyx vessel
#

Last key i did i did 30k more then the 2nd person overall

steep bone
#

sec i still may have screenshot somewhere

onyx vessel
steep bone
onyx vessel
#

Fury is much better for pugging keys or running keys with the trash guildies

steep bone
#

I couldn't do damage as fury

#

no gear

#

as arms i just go in and poof damage

onyx vessel
#

Fury all you need is td3 and 4 severes

#

Ez

steep bone
#

imagine farming for severes

onyx vessel
#

Or in my case full bis

#

And still only did 105k overall

steep bone
#

but arms is pretty stronk too

onyx vessel
steep bone
#

i likeit

#

both are brainded to play

#

well all war specs are brainded to play so yolo

onyx vessel
#

Managing tom stacks

steep bone
#

i don't even look at it

#

xD

#

i spam rage while collossus is up

#

i spam damage after collosus is down

onyx vessel
#

See i dont like that playstyle

steep bone
#

but saving lucid to pad on harlan sweete is rude

onyx vessel
#

Try bote

steep bone
#

i dont have

#

ive been playing mage religiously, didn't need that one

onyx vessel
#

Meta slave

steep bone
#

neither i did for tanks so never bothered to farm it. + pvp yep

#

hey, i was mage since day1 xD

onyx vessel
#

Gross

steep bone
#

but lightforged frost mage early tier

#

dying on purpose to do more damage

onyx vessel
#

Ally weird

steep bone
#

ye, im redempted

#

back to horde

onyx vessel
#

Sadly if you dont have a set team for m+

#

Ally is ded

steep bone
#

i kno

#

all my friends i played with were hardstuck at equivalent of 2,5-3k

#

then they have found teams, now they're doing 27s

#

:_:

onyx vessel
#

Even tho they clearly have tge advantage in terms of racials

steep bone
#

i mean advantage of racials is starting to be benefitial on higher keys anyway

#

plebs doesnt do that key levels anyway

#

i mean alliance*

#

typical alliance player****

#

you can't say alliance player without insulting

#

😫

onyx vessel
#

Dont care about snowflakes feelings

steep bone
#

but human mage 😦

#

cosplaying jaina 😦

onyx vessel
#

Caring about tmog

steep bone
#

||jmorph||

onyx vessel
#

Plus you were a lightforged mage

steep bone
#

yee

#

i race changed later

#

to kultiran

#

then to human

#

kultiran again

#

and back lfd

onyx vessel
#

Then too a blood elf

steep bone
#

well

#

i tried tauren warrior before

#

if camera wasn't anchored to his face that's below his neck

#

i'd play it

onyx vessel
#

How did you enjoy popping avatar in td

steep bone
#

but tbh for sl ima meta slave panda monk/vulpera dk

onyx vessel
#

Being like well fuck

steep bone
#

well

#

i used something to be smol

#

i think nanofoger or something

#

but tauren and bfa dungeons is big yikes

#

imagine making actual model bigger and not just textures

#

so you can't go through doors in avatar XD!

onyx vessel
#

With the glyph that makes you bigger when you victory rush plus avatar you can get stuck on ceilings

steep bone
#

wait there's glyph to be bigger?

#

i never actually checked warrior glyphs

#

LUL

onyx vessel
#

Slightly

steep bone
#

what about using those pots toys that makes u yuge

#

could pull last boss in td with tip of your head 🤔

onyx vessel
#

Very unlikely

#

Ask rextoy to try it

steep bone
#

and get him banned again?

#

noo

onyx vessel
#

Lul

steep bone
#

imagine banning people for using stuff that's possible to do in game LULW

onyx vessel
#

Back to work i go

steep bone
#

and not being happy that someone found that out so you can fix

civic rover
#

panda is best race

delicate swan
#

@sweet summit Snitches get stitches

sweet summit
#

what are u gonna do?

delicate swan
#

Will see will see

sweet summit
#

uhoh

delicate swan
#

Will never share anything with you for starters😂

#

Trust level 📉 😂

sweet summit
#

you were pinged in the SS

quaint gorge
#

what stats should i strive to have if i want to increase dps in m+

novel ruin
#

Haste and crit

quaint gorge
#

should i cap it at some point?

#

or go all the way

#

and ignore other stats

novel ruin
#

Ilvl > haste > crit > vers > mastery

quaint gorge
#

thnx

novel ruin
#

But you can sim for damage

quaint gorge
#

kk

novel ruin
#

Bit harder to sim for dungeons though

quaint gorge
#

kinda yes

#

if i wish to use some trinkets will ashvane coral be a good choice to increase dmg

#

or the underot stats boost trinket is a better choice

#

paired with rezan

novel ruin
#

For dungeons or raid?

delicate swan
#

Erga I know but he straight up counter snitched that you snitched

sweet summit
#

he woulda found up if he wanted anyway 🤔

quaint gorge
#

m+

novel ruin
#

@quaint gorge I would stick to haste proc trinkets like vita, scale, Rezans in that order. If looking for more passive damage you could use torment, if looking for more active damage you could use Fang but be weary that you can’t block during Fangs animation so use shockwave before using it.

#

@sweet summit more Among Us today? I never got traitor 😦

sweet summit
#

depends on when people play

strong forum
#

Tfw I was impostor.
And the German always killed the Russian first 🔫

sweet summit
#

@novel ruin @autumn pendant it is time again

#

need two

#

for 10

novel ruin
#

Ye

#

Hopping on

autumn pendant
#

still at work for another hour

sweet summit
#

@strong forum

#

come

strong forum
#

cant im busy

#

playing with my retards

sweet summit
#

is ok

autumn pendant
#

just one hour pepsihands

steep bone
sweet summit
#

spell reflect off cd weird

#

trinket off cd weird

steep bone
#

trinket is not equipped

sweet summit
#

o

#

lyskanon 👀

steep bone
#

u kno him?

sweet summit
#

what realm

#

is that zaelia

steep bone
#

zaelia?

sweet summit
#

healer in echo/method?

#

or

steep bone
#

wait who what

sweet summit
#

🤔

novel ruin
#

why did TGFB do 500k???

strong forum
#

spirit breaker

#

xanthos is a pepega holy shit

steep bone
#

guy was literally at 1%

#

i supposed not to get hit by it xD

strong forum
#

also yeah you played with MDI god zaelia

#

winner of basically all MDIs

#

and WF raider

sweet summit
steep bone
#

who's zaelia lol

#

i mean

novel ruin
#

I dont get hit by Spirit Breaker so who knows 😮

steep bone
#

who was zaelia there

#

XD

strong forum
#

Healer

#

Lyskanon

steep bone
#

no

sweet summit
#

lyskanon

#

yes

steep bone
#

hes my guildie

#

lol

sweet summit
#

ok

steep bone
#

XD

strong forum
#

okay

sweet summit
#

nvm

strong forum
#

HES A FANBOI

#

HOLY CRINGE

sweet summit
#

pepelaff

novel ruin
#

I make Hunter Pet take Spirit Breaker

steep bone
#

actually

novel ruin
#

Me pumping > hunter

strong forum
#

in a 15

#

without hunters

steep bone
#

i died

#

in 15

#

i caused second wipe

#

in 15

strong forum
#

Xanthos

#

giga pepega

steep bone
#

we didnt +3 +15

#

i should delete

#

XD

novel ruin
#

2nd wipe??

#

😮

steep bone
#

ye

novel ruin
#

im super pepega

steep bone
#

wanted to drop cannons on pack on last boss

novel ruin
#

Make DHs take Breaker

steep bone
#

but it gone super wrong XD

novel ruin
#

Thats spicy play

steep bone
#

yeah but also +15 ;_;

novel ruin
#

Did you get 5 volcanos beneath your feet?

steep bone
#

nah

#

i got thrown into cannon drops

#

as they ran away to africa \o/

#

but obv my fault

#

would of been ez +2 xD

#

but tbh i haven't had 60% base vers pillow set so probs i shouldnt do such advanced stuff :v

novel ruin
#

60% base vers 😮

steep bone
#

or whatever is full vers set vers

#

i think i had like 50ish%'

novel ruin
#

You wouldnt have died if you deved harder

strong forum
#

you wouldnt have died if you just SR'd it

steep bone
#

we talking about tfb die

#

yes?

novel ruin
#

you wouldnt have died if you ran less than 40 corruption

steep bone
#

tbh

#

dunno why its not saving sets sometimes

#

ive tryharded to get sub 40 TD3 set

#

and it didnt save so i forked quickly td2 set but with 54 corr

#

:__;

autumn pendant
#

@sweet summit any gamers

sweet summit
#

kinda

#

we're 6 in lobby atm

#

idk

#

nvm we're done i think

#

:/

novel ruin
#

still no imposter round

autumn pendant
#

DAMN

#

IT

sweet summit
#

quit work tbh, become pro among us gamer

autumn pendant
#

OF instagramer and twitch icon

#

yea

sweet summit
#

yes please

novel ruin
#

Yes, leggo I wanna see it Razonko

autumn pendant
#

imma join randoms

#

and have fun there

sweet summit
#

doomed

novel ruin
#

Good luck

autumn pendant
#

i just won game

#

in minute

#

cause nobody did oxygen

sweet summit
#

???

autumn pendant
#

Meta gamer

ember arrow
#

D

obtuse yoke
#

what race do i make my dk

novel ruin
#

Vulpera

chilly brook
#

The one you want to play

#

Also fuck furries

novel ruin
#

banned

chilly brook
#

No u

novel ruin
#

No u

honest plinth
#

Also fuck dks

strong forum
#

vulpera or goblin are objectively bis

#

goblin for movement

#

vulpera for the reduced hit before you get your boneshields and RP up 👍

chilly brook
#

@novel ruin uno reverse

chilly brook
#

Dont lie to me

strong forum
#

yeah nice fake

novel ruin
#

👌👀😴

strong forum
#

🕵️

undone sun
#

If only

chilly brook
#

Tbh

#

I'd rather have it release in 2020

#

Like I recognize there are problems and they need to fix them but at the same token

#

Fuck BFA

undone sun
#

rushed is forever bad, delayed is eventually good

#

not like you have to play bfa in the meantime

chilly brook
#

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

#

Not always true

#

I also just have 0 faith in blizz to actually fix the problems before it releases even it its delayed

#

Just let it release with the problems so the idiots who suck blizz's toes when it comes to covenants cry so it actually gets fixed

dusky mica
#

Imagine a Warrior saying Fuck BFA. Have you played SL? Jesus.

still pagoda
#

BfA was meh imo

#

Not talking of how fun prot warri was

#

But of a lot of poorly and somewhere terribly implemented gameplay changes, systems, overall feeling that expansion was rushed and then abandoned after making semi-filler raid with no logical conclusion to the story

cinder pasture
#

I just wish I could try out reaping with corruptions D:

still pagoda
#

SL may be like Legion

#

Or it may be like BfA/WoD again

#

Time will tell blizzdesign

#

I still had a lot of fun with BfA

crude notch
#

People forget that 1st patch of Legion was poopy

#

Also, pushing back the release of SL won't change the design philosophies that people want changed.

novel ruin
wooden radish
#

@exotic spoke CONGRATS

steep bone
#

This is gonna be shortest prepatch I ever experienced xD

undone sun
strong forum
#

This is gonna be the shortest downtime between launch and the actual game! (seasons start)

brittle owl
#

this is going to be

#

a thing

frosty scarab
#

Did i miss the prepatch announcement date or?:P

#

seems like you have some clue when it is about to happen 😛

hard sky
#

we only got the actual release date as 26/27 octobre, since there has been no pre patch announcement yet, its highly unlikely to happen on 29/30. september, maybe 06/07 octobre, but the longer we wait for an announcement, the shorter the pre patch has to be to hold the time line for actual release @frosty scarab

frosty scarab
#

yeah okay, got that part. but since people were actually discussing said patch already in terms of its length, and this is an international discord i figured maybe the US forums have info the EU doesnt have yet:P

hard sky
#

im pretty sure once theres a confirmed date in either EU/NA/asia/twitter whatever forum, you'll see it pop up in the news channel here

frosty scarab
#

yeah figured 🙂 thanks tho! Just too eager for a patch date i guess 😛

exotic spoke
#

@wooden radish thanks! ❤️

novel ruin
#

@sweet summit peepoHappy

sweet summit
still pagoda
novel ruin
#

Erga is so unhappy with me guys

still pagoda
#

So few days left of BfA

#

What happened?

novel ruin
#

I may or may not have trolled him hehe

strong forum
#

Rip rosjen

still pagoda
#

^

sweet summit
still pagoda
autumn pendant
#

Application scam?

#

pfff

steep bone
#

I may or may not have trolled him hehe
@novel ruin no i am rosjen

sweet summit
#

no

steep bone
#

Fite me

sweet summit
#

ok

steep bone
still pagoda
#

Rosjen and Vivv fighting to death

#

what a sight to behold

steep bone
#

Rosjen and Vivv fighting to death
@still pagoda how can i fight with myself weird

#

||i feel that im ultimate cringe deliver on this Discord||

wooden radish
#

@exotic spoke has more nzoth kills than @ionic fern. @exotic spoke for theorycrafter

sweet summit
#

i support

ionic fern
#

Same.-

#

Get me out of here.

steep bone
#

Hello

still pagoda
#

||i feel that im ultimate cringe deliver on this Discord||
@steep bone

exotic spoke
#

@wooden radish ❤️

#

Thanks for the encouragement.

#

@ionic fern your cat is great ❤️

mellow patio
#

Waifu is Vivv😳

sweet summit
#

no i am Vivv

topaz ember
#

Erga is a false profit all hail vivv

sweet summit
#

:(

strong forum
#

guess we found the 2 impostors

mellow patio
#

I am hawgz

novel ruin
#

I am SHIELDBEAR

autumn pendant
#

any gamers in the chat

strong forum
#

no

exotic spoke
#

@strong forum Eject them into space

bitter venture
#

How is prot looking for shadowlands ?

sweet summit
bitter venture
#

Thank you @sweet summit

trim delta
#

Quick question: Are we supposed to keep one charge of shield block in reserve, and have one charge rolling, when actively tanking? Or just use both charges as they come up?

left hatch
#

kinda a feelycraft thing, usually the best practice is space them out with a second in between

inland silo
#

Typically use them one at a time.
Its better to have the option to stagger your shield blocks if you ever needed to for whatever reason.

left hatch
#

and have both on CD when you last stand

#

obv you sit on it when you know the pack is gonna die withing X seconds so you're not wasting a charge

#

and yah like yasuri said, the option to stagger is better because 1-2s of heavy melee damage between charges is better than 4+ seconds of unmitigated melee when both are used up and you're waiting around

onyx vessel
#

Just smash face

#

👍

livid granite
#

ya guys i dont understand i reroll now my 445 chest twice to get that avatar trait plus the corruption trait but they never come to me

#

what is the problem

#

i see all warcraft logs has the two traits on each piece

#

someone help me man

sweet summit
#

Its from vexiona in the raid

orchid flame
#

Does prot have a place in pvp at all?

sweet summit
#

not really

orchid flame
#

So I’m probably better speccing arms or something for pvp then ?

sweet summit
#

100%

orchid flame
#

I still miss gladiator stance 😭

sick sentinel
#

how does ignore pain stack? does it do double the absore when u use one while already having the buff?

sweet summit
#

it goes up to 1.3 times the tooltip value

sick sentinel
#

is there a cap?

ionic fern
#

1.3

#

.

sick sentinel
#

k thnx

distant crystal
#

it pandemics basically

cursive burrow
#

@livid granite The piece with BoM and HoD comes from the invasions or raid.

#

You can't get HoD from the Residuum vendor.

lucid pasture
#

bois

#

can someone help

#

which one do iwear

sweet summit
#

Can you handle the 15 extra corruption from overseer?

lucid pasture
#

im at 40 rn

#

so 15 more would make it 55

sweet summit
#

Ill take that as a yes

lucid pasture
#

im not a big prot player so idrk how much is okay

sweet summit
#

So use that then

lucid pasture
#

okok

sweet summit
#

Sub 60 or sub 40

lucid pasture
#

i just put a vers gem and vers enchant on it irght

sweet summit
#

Well it looks like youre stacking vers, so yeah. Unless your haste is very low thats what id do

lucid pasture
#

haste is 46%

sweet summit
#

Without into the fray stacks

lucid pasture
#

uhh

#

46% without anything just sitting in boralus

#

i can send you my simc

#

if you wanan look it over

sweet summit
#

Into the fray

#

Do u have stacks of it rn

lucid pasture
#

yes

#

i didnt see

#

its 32%

#

now

sweet summit
#

Ya ok, anyway, youre not stacking vers?

lucid pasture
#

im trying

#

most my gear has haste vers mastery

sweet summit
#

Fuck sorry, i though overseer had versatile not masterful. Im tired :/

lucid pasture
#

and some pieces have bit of cirt

#

bruh

sweet summit
#

Well id still use overseer

#

Bc more stats

lucid pasture
#

okok

sweet summit
#

And use haste enchant/gem. Or u could sim for dps

lucid pasture
#

btw on my shoulders do i hod or iron fortress

sweet summit
#

HoD is great, id take HoD unless your shield ilvl is very low

lucid pasture
#

its 460

sweet summit
#

Do a +15 and get a 465 yep id take HoD

lucid pasture
#

ight

#

hod it is

#

@sweet summit would you be so kind as to look over my simc see if everything looks ok

sweet summit
#

I could take a look tomorrow if thats ok. Very sleepy and on phone atm

lucid pasture
#

oh ok

#

feelssadman

#

i mean

#

i could just tell you what things im a bit confused of

sweet summit
#

Just link a tip gear sim

lucid pasture
#

is it right that i take 3x bastion of might

sweet summit
#

Ye go ahead

#

Without dropping ilvl or your first DC, yes

lucid pasture
#

and overwhelming power 2nd tier

#

@sweet summit ye on my head i have both dc and a bastion of might

sweet summit
#

OP whenever possible yeah

#

Prioritize the first DC trait, then BoM

lucid pasture
#

pog

sweet summit
#

So if you already have a DC, take BoM

#

O, nice

lucid pasture
#

yeesss

#

im trying to actually learn to tank

#

as to widen my horizons

sweet summit
#

Log your runs

#

Do some dungeons/raids and come back with logs

#

Ill gladly look over them

lucid pasture
#

okok

#

gotta find an actual group then lol

sweet summit
#

Shouldnt be too hard as a tank ;)

lucid pasture
#

tru

#

@sweet summit i go vers nav right?

novel ruin
#

@lucid pasture Take a video of a dungeon run, post to YouTube, we can go over it too

#

And you go Force Multiplier. Only Vers Nav if full vers stacking

lucid pasture
#

And you go Force Multiplier. Only Vers Nav if full vers stacking
@novel ruin aight i went force multiplier

#

just did a +10 and completely crushed it

#

+3 and 2nd most dps

#

i must be strøng

novel ruin
#

Nice

#

TD and Clapping does big damage

lucid pasture
#

yep

#

td was 34% and clap 17,8

novel ruin
#

Claps seem a bit low but that could also be level of key

#

How much TD?

lucid pasture
#

34%?

novel ruin
#

Yes, how many tanks of TD you running?

lucid pasture
#

uhhh

#

5 i think

#

td 5

novel ruin
#

That’s what I run. Usually about 25% for clapping and TD

lucid pasture
#

hm

novel ruin
#

Log a run or video it and some of us here can go over it

lucid pasture
#

bet

flint oriole
#

What % on the stats recommend for M+

undone sun
#

anything above 0%

novel ruin
#

Haste and crit

#

All da haste and crit for big damage

limpid pawn
#

Learning blood dk is so different wow

#

Having downtime in the rotation 😩

mellow patio
#

stands there and waits to spend rp

undone sun
mellow patio
crude notch
brittle owl
vocal flame
#

how we looking in shadowlands? as good as bfa?

strong forum
#

raiding is pmuch the same, weaker in m+

vocal flame
#

really? thats sad still viable tho right in m+?

strong forum
#

tanks are always viable

vocal flame
#

well some classes way more than others

strong forum
#

depends more on the player than the class

#

when it comes to viability

#

ill just say, ill get CE and do high keys as prot

vocal flame
#

well i havent changed being a prot war since vanilla haha no matter how bad it was i still have fun

strong forum
#

its a bit more clunky, and not the rage feedback loop machine

#

its basically 8.0 all over again

#

but a bit better

vocal flame
#

ok so thats not bad

novel ruin
#

@vocal flame Tank balance super close. Lots of magic and bleed dots in mythic raid on tank so be prepared for that as a warrior. Going a dwarf race may be worth.

brittle owl
#

viability doesn't have degrees

#

you're either viable or not

#

that being said, tanks have always been viable, with extremely limited examples to the contrary

icy monolith
#

in the last few expansions there hasn't been a tank you couldn't play, ofc one tank will be the best but they will all work fine

simple mural
#

I lost my Spell Reflect weakaura... It was the icon version of the current one that's up on wago. So rather than cast bars it just flashed the spell reflect icon. Anyone have something similar?

modern brook
simple mural
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I just hid the cast bar and changed it to one for now, not the same thing but it's a quick hack job that'll work.

modern brook
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👍

still pagoda
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well some classes way more than others
@vocal flame
Unless you're going for world first, everything is viable

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And good too

sullen valve
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@ionic fern please stop. Don't give advice if you don't know what you're talking about

ionic fern
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But i do know..
MW is shit. @sullen valve yep

sullen valve
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yep thats why its best healer in shadowlands, most hps yep

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that hurt

ionic fern
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Biggest bumps, never die.

sullen valve
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Remember when we did keys mwahi

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those were good

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protweaver

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mistwarrior

ionic fern
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New meta.

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Ngl, Mist warrior sounds like a cool new specialization. 👀

sullen valve
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it would be too powerful

sweet summit
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Delete arm and make mist spec

ionic fern
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++

strong forum
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Delete fur-ew and make mist spec

sweet summit
still pagoda
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I'm still banned from PoS

sweet summit
still pagoda
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yep technically for no reason

sweet summit
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when was :arms: renamed to scuffed

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Nice

undone sun
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they always say for no reason

brittle owl
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he said technically

onyx vessel
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Getting banned from a discord

undone sun
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i've been banned from AMR

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does that count

onyx vessel
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Dont know what amr is

undone sun
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lucky you

still pagoda
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Dont know what amr is [2]

onyx vessel
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Id guess he wants to keep it that way

still pagoda
onyx vessel
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Thyme doesnt seem like someone to get banned

still pagoda
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Well, i got banned during this whole method drama

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So...