woah, i almost have 9000
#protection
novel ruin
undone sun
64k 🙂
novel ruin
We all aren’t old bears
limpid pawn
Where’s message count
steep bone
How many do i have, cant see on phone 😦
onyx vessel
Unlucky
novel ruin
Type your name into search
pastel sleet
8 v3 it1 or
7v3 2it1?
novel ruin
2nd one
pastel sleet
why?
undone sun
My time has passed
novel ruin
@pastel sleet Because you dont need the extra 2-4% vers from an extra vers amp. If doing 30s, sure the extra smoothness of damage intake may be worth it. For 24 to like 27/28 i would go Vers 3 x 6 , IT r1 x 2 , TD 2 for 59 corruption.
@undone sun ill play bear tonight on beta for you
topaz ember
pretty much all of my messages are from bfa as before that i didn't post much
although i remember thyme answering al my prot question in legion
steep bone
@novel ruin ive 25 messages on one page
novel ruin
awkward
undone sun
okay padder 🙂
still pagoda
I don't care tbh
You're not worthy if you just have high messages count and nothing to really contribute yet
novel ruin
@undone sun i played bear in a 2 Plaguefall
undone sun
yeah. message count alone doesn't mean anything
languid heath
Man oh man yesterday I got to tank Carapace hero (prog for us) for the 2nd time and he went down on the second try! It was sooo much fun, I love my warr! Just had to share 😄
topaz ember
Xan and plaguefall are cool but i though bear was a little weird when he got sucked out of that blue ball
sweet summit
🔵
brittle owl
onyx vessel
honest plinth
@pastel sleet allmost all of top tanks are using 8vers/1 it. but thats because they are doing very high keys like 28-30+. You can use whatever you comfortable with. Also you healer's class matter a lot here.
onyx vessel
7vers/2 it is better
honest plinth
strong opinion
strong forum
It's not the tanks that are dying in high keys.
So why would you get more vers
But also, run w/e you want shit don't matter anymore
brittle owl
are you ready for everyone asking how much vers they should have for m+ in SL @strong forum
sweet summit
Almost three
brittle owl
i saw a stream and they said tree fiddy at least for weekly
pearl summit
ngl brother but running high versa and pulling half the dungeon into boss is fun af in 15s
id always recommend all the vers
sweet summit
You can do that without vers on a 15 👀
cursive burrow
Also with TD you then get a giant lazer beam that deletes aforementioned mobs and boss.
strong forum
Answering vers questions is gonna be lit in SL
But there's already people asking for the perfect conduit + soulbind setup
Thats gonna be even more fun
sweet summit
Havent you predicted the future yet?
strong forum
Streamers know better anyway
brittle owl
excuse me
i am big brain
i watch youtube videos
because surely it's correct, you edit it anyway right
strong forum
brittle owl
discord is like a smart google anyway with a diff skin amirite
sweet summit
We leave the thinking to mwahi
strong forum
More like the livechat of customer service for X spec :kekw:
honest plinth
Well its simple. If you stack even more vers your healer can focus on grp healing
brittle owl
still pagoda
brittle owl
i just want to stop seeing retarded statements about it
still pagoda
I just want to stop seeing and hearing retarded statements about vers
honest plinth
You can play Beta btw
brittle owl
you don't say
still pagoda
I don't have beta yet
still pagoda
brittle owl
though tbf
honest plinth
You dont need ce for Beta
brittle owl
betas only like a month and a half
and ye itll prob be handed out in droves in the coming weeks
sweet summit
Even if you have ce doesnt mean you get beta :/
honest plinth
Thats true
still pagoda
@brittle owl https://raider.io/characters/eu/kazzak/Memphetide
sweet summit
😳
ionic fern
sweet summit
All you need to know is wayor good YEP
brittle owl
🗞️
sweet summit
still pagoda
Anyway time to continue looking for guild. What a time to swap because you're not a tank in the guild you're in anymore
sweet summit
We go again
ionic fern
Find one for me also.
sweet summit
Uhoh
strong forum
Kekw
honest plinth
You have plenty of time. I hope you will find one soon.
still pagoda
Kungen =/= the biggest meme server of EU horde
strong forum
Wdym he's going to get easy top 20 World he says
sweet summit
Huh?
still pagoda
Huh?
strong forum
You said he isn't the biggest meme
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
Not top 20 tho
Unless he unzips an galaxy brain RL
still pagoda
that just means you've been a naughty boi
@brittle owl
That just means i'm really unlucky
For last 4 years or so
brittle owl
very naughty indeed
shut summit
novel ruin
@split wyvern Sorry, went to bed. Plaguefall trash sucks. Def will need a rogue. The bosses are pretty cool with 3rd being one of my favorite ever. Tyran gonna suck in here.
novel ruin
Bear seems fine. My 2nd time playing it ever. I only mauled 5 times so my rotation is a bit off probably. Frenzied needs to come off of the GCD just like ignore pain did. Incarn, sleeper legendary and Venthyr covenant makes you a god for 30 secs every 3min.
sweet summit
yeah, 5 mauls are 5 too many
novel ruin
Maybe my rotation was okay then lol
I set it up in my head: mangle=shield slam, Thrash = Clap, Ironfur = Shield block, Frenzied = Ignore pain, Swipe = revenge, moon fire = devestate. Gave em the same binds too lol
sweet summit
kinda yeah
novel ruin
During my god mode every 30seconds I pulled massive and it felt incredibly hard to dump rage
novel ruin
Incarn
I meant my god mode for 30 seconds every 3min
Stampeding roar is so much fun
Snap threat was a bit of an issue at start of pulls
sweet summit
yeah thrash is like negative damage or something
strong forum
Cocaine bear meta
Do 15k dps for 30sec every 3 minutes
Then struggle for your live with 2k dps for the rest
novel ruin
Yeah that’s exactly what it was lol
If they make frenzied regen off of GCD and buff thrash a bit, bear may be SL m+ tank
brittle owl
holy comboost tho
novel ruin
Maybe instead of moonfire they give em sunfire?
brittle owl
x doubt, been like this for the last 4 expacs at least
fierce bobcat
do yall know if we can still farm visions after prepatch? just need a bit more to get that lame 100k mount lol
sweet summit
ya you can
fierce bobcat
cool i can keep casually farming a bit each week and not rush too much then. Have you tried SW 5 mask prot vs fury? Is one of our specs easier than others?
sweet summit
ive done both
both are pretty easy, kinda equal. lowkey depends on what youre better as/have better gear for i guess
fierce bobcat
i've only been doing 4 mask SW cuz alleria seems so horrible with no range dmg
sweet summit
just be patient
theres no rush
the more you stress/greed, the more sanity damage youll take
fierce bobcat
cool gonna finally try it tomorrow, never actually failed but was just too hesitant to try cuz even on 4 mask it took forever lol. need to learn to be more patient
the fight prolly takes you like 3-4 min?
sweet summit
more like 2 minutes? havent done visions in a few so not 100% sure
you could drums if you want to
also cyclotronic blast owns vs alleria
CoF major
slaps
fierce bobcat
cool nothing to lose now since we're about to lose all our corruption anyways, gonna try thx!
proud heart
what prepatch tomorrow? 😮
sweet summit
havent heard anything about that, so doubt it
proud heart
UwU
sweet summit
tame garden
uwu
sweet summit
speg no 
strong forum
Pre-patch should be next week or the week after.
Presumably the 4th and last afterlives cinematic is coming this week
So it would Kinda make sense to have pre-patch launch after the last lore hype w/e cinematic
steep bone
@fierce bobcat if we are talking about final boss in sw, I did 5mask as all specs, where fury is least geared 90k, 127k arms sim wise. Prot is easy but long and boring, if you don’t proc td it takes ages. Arms is easy cake but ramp up is annoying and while finishing bosses is great then surviving packs not that much - if u over pull that is. Fury is so far easiest even if I don’t do much dmg on it, the self heal is real. For last boss in sw I have cheat death and orb for start of fight so I completely ignore eye and sanity drain and just go all in, then when it’s close to die I just don’t care and proc cheat death (spawning adds is nice cuz u can proc gift of it, if you do then it’s just Zerg)
strong forum
Haven't found any spec particularly faster. Both are around 15-20min clearspeed of SW
Org a little faster
And havoc can clear org in almost sub 10 minutes, dumb fucking spec
Prolly sub 10
rugged sentinel
can anyone recommend a weak aura that tracks group kicks?
novel steeple
There is one but I don't have access to my computer atm. Kids doing school
rugged sentinel
@novel steeple no problem. Maybe later if no one responds you can direct message me via discord. I'm in no rush. I'll send you a dm.
novel steeple
Sure thing. It's great for things like the spider obelisk
chilly brook
@tame garden uWu
tame garden
modern brook
@novel steeple
[some classic bullshit] I believe this is the standard one
I lied
Thats for classic
https://wago.io/SyJ_eVuYQ THIS is the right one i think
https://wago.io/search/interupt+tracker you can also browse other options here
fierce bobcat
thanks for tips on SW visions - I have full set of prot and fury atm so i'll try those first. Got unlucky with TOM traits so my Arms set is only 465 azerite pieces. If there's bad shit on the ground when Alleria is casting her sheep I can spell reflect it to immune the sanity drain?
fierce bobcat
i think that's him, nice. I should have enough keys to try 5X, hopefully i'm not so terribad to fail that many times lol
sweet summit
good luck mate
fierce bobcat
👍
icy harness
uneven fern
445 vite / 460 humming dragonscale / 465 rezans
Which should I used?
novel ruin
445 vita, scale
trim bay
is running over 40 corruption ok to do for m+? im only doing 20/21's. i have read wowhead and icy veins seem to just say stick under 40. what do you guys do?
novel steeple
I try to keep mine below 40 so I don't have to deal with TFB
distant crystal
tfb isn't a huge deal typically
novel ruin
@trim bay we have a lot of tools to deal with TFB
trim bay
yea. it doesnt really seem to do a great deal. just prefer not to waste a SB on it over a cast.
yea i was just curious what you guys do
distant crystal
otoh you're only losing a little bit of corruption staying below 40,
trim bay
i dont really wana take TD2 of my weapon 😦
novel ruin
Bigger thing to get used to is the larger eye and worse slow
trim bay
ahh i didnt even think of that
im sitting on 59 corrcuption. Vers rank 3 x 6, IT1 x2 and TD rank2. probably a bit much. should i drop the TD?
trim bay
oh ok cool. thanks 🙂
limpid pawn
l m a o
double carried a 15, with pug healer+dps, that is the ultimate end game
having carries carry each other
split wyvern
@fierce bobcat My DH as Havoc was the fastest for 5 Mask runs hands down.
@novel ruin thanks man about Bear info. We shall see with their tuning I have a good feeling Bear and Prot will be solid. For Bear I never use Maul unless I’m not tanking the boss and I’m avoid rage capping which is just a Prot habit. FR 100% needs to come off the GCD and rotation wise in my head it’s our form of magic mitigation, iron fur is shield block, Mangle is like shield slam, thrash to me is like TC, Swipe is just like devastate imo
onyx vessel
Prepatch avatar off gcd is gonna be interesting
Press it during charge for that fat 30 rage
novel steeple
macro'd with avatar
onyx vessel
Or the more likely thing till launch marcoed with demo shout
novel steeple
yea, i tyuped the wrong thing
strong forum
Well you could press avatar during charge anyway
Since charge is off gcd iirc, just like leap
And by the time you got to the target the gcd should be ready again 👍
obsidian cairn
Bit undergeared no td. any essences i should focus on and any little things i can improve
sweet summit
VoP (farm, dont buy)
CnS+Lucid(buy)
Get more gear and td 
strong forum
Not to mention you don't always wanna press that specific button when you wanna press avatar
sweet summit
Yah, that too
distant crystal
avatar->charge is better
charge doesn't take a full gcd to reach your target ime
sweet summit
Fuck charge, all my homies just RP walk 🐒
civic rover
leap to every pack
sweet summit
One shot of what? Gamergirl bathwater? 😳
mellow patio
Sounds delicious
I have been known to be one shot by the bone men in UR by leaping into that pack. I am not sorry
strong forum
Sounds like a leaper to me
sweet summit
Good to hear. Keep up the great work!
onyx vessel
Leap in 
Charge into 1st pack with avatar leap into the next pack charge back to the 1st one
More profit
strong forum
Don't forget speed pot to grab the 3rd and 4th pack
novel ruin
there are no more speed pots in SL 😦
still pagoda
it will feel sleepy
really sleepy
and you'll wipe your group and fade out for next few hours
strong forum
Sounds like a great night to me
still pagoda
sounds like a typical BfA prog night for tank
novel ruin
That’s why I’ll be buying a 2nd monitor and playing a different game while raid tanking xD
sweet summit
big fury trinket 👀
sweet summit
barnacle is actually pretty good on st :/
novel ruin
High crit makes barnacle slap
sick sentinel
Does anyone know whether it's easy week for freehold after reset?
Easy week meaning jolly and Eudora are the second bosses
sweet summit
next week
tyrann is not fun :/
sick sentinel
What do you mean?
sweet summit
oh sorry, next week is raoul+jolly thats easy
tyrann eudora is not fun
by brain shut down, sorry
sick sentinel
No Eudora?
sweet summit
correct
sick sentinel
But she's easy, only hitting for 140% of someone's hp per shot
sweet summit
:v)
undone sun
ez
wooden radish
@warm plinth what’s up pinky
warm plinth
Hi
wooden radish
@warm plinth whats new
warm plinth
Nothing new. Working, sleeping, watching TV, very exciting shit
wooden radish
@warm plinth sounds great
warm plinth
Does it
solid spade
obsidian cairn
anything to fix other than essences and a td or 2 (it's abit late for td will get a week out of it)
this is and alt btw
and another bastion
obtuse yoke
i'd say trinkets + higher ilvl azerite + ring
novel steeple
lol
cursive burrow
That is the largest glaring omission imo.
naive barn
real orchid
2xIT1 + 7xVers3 = 29 corrupt @ 125 resis cloak. Anyone thinking about dropping Strength of the Warden for something else? (lucid, null barrier)?
strong forum
Null doesn't scale with key level cuz it's a flat absorb.
% like the 400+ vers you get from lucid procs translate way better into m+
Ontop of the obv heal and rage gen
real orchid
makes sense
open kelp
Starting late trying to get into the 20 keys, I swapped my vers corruption settup for TD5 and IT1x2, you guys recomment CoS Major or VoP major at this level? Been using CoS for a while now, but VoP seems good too
strong forum
Both are good. Cns major is good in junkyard and UR to stop mechanics from charge mobs n stuff.
Vop is good for dps
Id run vop in 20s cuz shit don't hurt
strong forum
You don't kite in 20s tho
Or well, shouldn't feel the need to
So someone is doing smth wrong
open kelp
My groups are basically always pugs and alot of the time my "healing" is as high or higher then the healers I end up with
idk if thats normals or not for prot tbh
I dont die particuarly fast though so I guess I dont need to
I might just be doing it for no reason tbh
strong forum
It's pretty close tbh
Outside of grievous or bursting
I just remember the first key I did in full vers gear
I wasnt even top target healing received from the healer.
God I won't miss it
open kelp
lmao really? thats pretty funny
sick sentinel
ok i have jes howler 465 rezan gleaming eye 455 butchers block 465
which one should i choose
0 vers amps btw
sweet summit
Block + rezan tbh
sick sentinel
alrighty
novel steeple
meh, I have the problem where I can form pug groups that perform better than guild groups because those that want to push keys just don't understand that doing 40k dps overall is not good dps. Then they get mad when I say their dps is low ><
strong forum
Mandatory?
strong forum
Idk 27
sick sentinel
wait wat
strong forum
You can live until 25s without vers. People have done that way before the vendor
strong forum
But it's starting to become beneficial around 23/24s
Bears are usually recommended to run TD until 24/25s
Vdh is recommended to run TD until 27ish
Monk never wants TD
And bdk I think runs TD until 21s
sick sentinel
interesting
brittle owl
22/23's
somewhere around there
by stack, in an ideal sense, for all tanks
is you start adding in increments of 20/10
sick sentinel
i rerolled at week 8 to prot so imma try to get a 20 key done
to get a taste of it
strong forum
Don't really need to reroll for that but sure
strong forum
I see
tame garden
🐻
sick sentinel
butcher's block or void twisted titanshard?
sweet summit
Vita>>>scale>rezan
👁️
sweet summit
warm solar
Yoo age old question
Why is Overwhelming Power good? Doesn't it fade away in a second if you're being hit a lot? I get why DPS want it as it lasts all the stacks, but tanks only get it for a couple of seconds. Wouldnt it be better to have flat buff like Siphon mastery/leech?
stark sage
the stacks have an internal cooldown when they deplete from damage
so you dont lose them that fast
warm solar
ah, thanks
strong forum
the minimum uptime on OP is ~12 seconds
1 stack per second
another stack per 1 second if youre being attacked
warm solar
Didn't know that. I thought "you're being attacked all the time, seems useless for tanks"
great
strong forum
thats what people thought on jaina when people advertised "dont take OP for jaina because of the stack loss unless you have literally 3x OP"
fierce bobcat
does the dmg from fang trinket scale with any of our stats? more vers = bigger poison, more crit = crit ticks, etc?
strong forum
haste increases amount of ticks, vers increases the dmg, crit is just crit ( although im not sure on the crit part)
ive never had it, so i dont know if it can crit
fierce bobcat
sweet so vers increases the dmg of all trinkets?
fierce bobcat
wow nice, cool i tested a bunch at dummies the ticks do crit so i assume it's based on our crit how often that happens so almost all our stats matter
haste i guess would only really matter if we got it high enough to get 1 extra tick
strong forum
which you should
typcially you should have ~45-50%+ haste with ITF
and with procs close if not more than 100% haste
fierce bobcat
nice, never realized all our stats directly applied to trinkets. ONLY vers applies to essence dmg though?
strong forum
well, haste and crit do the same
haste increases cast time or sometimes proc rate
crit = crit chance ( if it can crit )
vers increases number
fierce bobcat
nice to know our stats basically scale across all sources of dmg pretty well
strong forum
ye
fierce bobcat
i finally tried 5 mask SW after weeks of dreading it cuz it seemed to be much more range class friendly and was way overly concerned lol, was much easier than I thought it would be with some of the tips from guys here
strong forum
yeah, most people stress too much over how difficult X really is
fierce bobcat
just knowing what to kick and what to reflect, don't stand on bad shit, pretty straight forward
strong forum
once you slow down a bit and spend some time understanding whats going on
same with m+ and raiding
knowledge is power, like usual
fierce bobcat
i couldn't get all the casts on umbric but there's enough leeway of sanity reserve, SR didn't refresh fast enough for every sheep
i guess i could actually slow down dps during the intermission thing when he teleports to get CD's back up if needed
or rather just not leap at him until SR is like 5 secs till rdy
but in decent gear eating a set of missiles to the face is still ok with EE lol
novel steeple
I've been carrying guildies through 5 masks. Easy peasy once you get the rhythm down
fierce bobcat
do you wait for SR on umbric if it seems ur killing him too fast ?
or just zerg through it and sacrifice a little sanity for speed
novel steeple
I don't use SR on him. No need really. Just fave tsnk it and zerg him down. I interrupt poly but that's it
I run it on fury though not prot
fierce bobcat
ok cool i didn't plan it that way but that's how it turned out lol, i think the missiles drain like 15 sanity a tick or something, kinda big but not gonna kill us
i forgot to log it like a noob, i wanted to compare fury and prot. Now that i'm more used to it i'm gonna do it again on each spec to compare how fast I can clear it
strong forum
i interrupt the cast insta
then reflect the sheep
📈
next ones you eat the cast, then interrupt the sheep
novel steeple
I go shaw, magister, bombs, cages then alleria for my route. Don't use orbs at all unless I mess up big time for the whole clear usually. Sometimes I'll drop one before alleria to top off but that's it
fierce bobcat
ahh so every other cycle you can SR
novel steeple
I should try it on prot tonight. Just to see
fierce bobcat
i was surprised how high sanity remained, i pre-orbed just to be safe and to not waste it, but i was overcapping sanity basically after every boss from EE
a little spoiled from corruption vendor compared to some of the older vids lol, TD6 and IT prolly makes a big difference
novel steeple
Yep yep. Once you hit like rank 12 and have the 200 sanity reward from killing mobs it's full run city non stop
haughty pebble
hello~ trying to figure out whether to go prot warr or pally for my next toon through SL, I really like the idea of being a warrior, should i be fine with raid progression for my guild through SL despite what people have been saying?
strong forum
#698541559049748520 and yes
haughty pebble
oops didn't see that channel tahnks
kind spindle
Man. Pugs are extra toxic this week. Lol.
novel steeple
how so?
vocal berry
prolly: if you do not have an IO raiting 1K higher than needed you will not get invited
OR, oh we wiped, trash this all and leave
kind spindle
People bouncing
I had healer leave my 19 WM when we at pig boss with 18 minutes left cause "we weren't going to time it" like wut
novel steeple
well was the pig first or last of the top floor? 😄 i'm guessing last by how you are talking and 18 min is plenty of time
kind spindle
Ya he was last before going downstairs
novel steeple
personally i don't leave keys until somebody else does. that's just me though. idgaf if it's time or not cause for my purposes ( weekly loot chest ) timing doesn't matter
kind spindle
I get not wanting to sit through a 19 or 20 or whatever if it not going to benefit you. But leaving prematurely like that is just mind boggling. Like why even pug if you get tilted that easy.
novel steeple
gd just got rid of 14 advertisements in the dungeon finder trying to find a 15/16
kind spindle
I've noticed it gotten worse lately
novel steeple
Almost as bad in the raid carry tab too
novel steeple
i do every time...it's only gotten worse. gonna keep reporting but doesn't mean much when it's getting worse the more reports
sick sentinel
Idk if report weights are a thing but I report all groups that I don't want to join
Since it's the only way to clear the list
distant crystal
hey go fuck yourself
undone sun
no u
distant crystal
i was talking to you two specifically
steep bone
wary osprey
general question, what do you expect your uptime to be on shield block during any given boss fight? Same for ignore pain?
sweet summit
Very irrelevant
Ignore pain is used to spend rage to avoid overcapping
You wanna look at blocked hits, not raw uptime on shield block
chilly brook
@wary osprey show us logs
spring pine
alright kings. warrior has more buttons than any other tank, any macros that free up some space?
jagged pier
real orchid
gse - 1 button to rule them all. jk.
topaz ember
Just use 1234 qer and then shift qer should be all you need
sweet summit
Sim for dps, IT defensively
crude pond
Is 2IT that great at defense?
sweet summit
Oh yeah
obsidian cairn
Is merektha's fang the really good one
sweet summit
Thats the really good aoe dps trinket, yeah
sick sentinel
Hello i am prot Warrior 457 can easy tank mythic 9+ and below and struggle with heroic nyalotha bosses is pretty sure I use defensives right any1 know why I am struggling so hard?
mental anchor
On cara does SR make the madness bombs go off on P3?
Madness bomb went off and wiped raid and the only in logs that I can see is my SR was up because I had an eye of corruption under me
sweet summit
Yes, u kinda fucked up :/ @mental anchor if you have sr active and he casts bomb it insta explodes and does sanity damage to those around you. Same as with any other immunity afaik
@sick sentinel got any logs?
sick sentinel
logs?
sick sentinel
Nah I don’t have any sorry
sweet summit
Very hard for us to help if we dont have ant logs to look at
strong forum
My guess is you're literally not pressing your buttons enough.
As stupid as it may sound
Pay more attention to which buttons you're using, SS and TC on CD. Try to maintain SB/LS uptime when actively tanking mobs
Don't press buttons at random, that seems to be a big thing people do when wondering why they're having issues.
They don't notice that they just press willy nilly buttons
junior ivy
is the new expac out yet
vocal berry
soon
strong forum
A bit over a month cat
vocal berry
sweet summit
Nothing cool, just pain
vocal berry
yes and no
strong forum
We get to use Punish or Devastator and legion bracers are back as a talent
strong forum
Uuuh.
junior ivy
new classes?
junior ivy
ty
vocal berry
just call me google
sweet summit
Covenants! A new and epic "talent system" that can handicap you if you play multiple specs and/or roles in different content
strong forum
You look like a raisin archer tbh @vocal berry
junior ivy
so like, does it look fun
brittle owl
it's ok though! we made the expansion the most alt friendly expansion of all time! now it's actually better to have 2 characters of the same class rather than multispec!
junior ivy
is there anything gnome related?
vocal berry
@strong forum thank you?
sweet summit
More customization options i think?
strong forum
Yuh more character customisation
vocal berry
they redid a lot of the character customizations, not sure about gnomes specifically
brittle owl
best race related change in shadowlands
junior ivy
isnt there a new gnome race?
brittle owl
is that you should now make 3 x any class you play
sweet summit
Mechagnomes?
vocal berry
but those require earning rep right now in BfA
sweet summit
Rep requirement goes away with SL release for allied races i think
sick sentinel
@strong forum hmm thanks man
novel ruin
@strong forum @sweet summit Would you guys be willing to look at a Ilgy Prot log of mine to see any glaring issues? I feel like my start pulling is horrible.
strong forum
Press taunt 👍
Like, idk how you can fuck up pulling tho. You wanna be really close to him really fast so he doesn't slap others before you cuz he's stationary
novel ruin
i'm still not used to having a co-tank so im blocking while not actively tanking sometimes lol
strong forum
That's fine for dmg as long as you know you won't be tanking in the next 12 seconds
30% more SS dmg from SB
strong forum
Ye
novel ruin
its weird using Last Stand as a CD instead of a block too
still pagoda
I mean
novel steeple
Had to bonus roll only on nzoth 8 times to get it plus the regular once a week loot
still pagoda
I just use SW
strong forum
Well you kinda don't have SW for every 2nd beam
still pagoda
Then it comes back when it is my time to take the boss again
novel ruin
yeah i Walled 2nd first hit
You must have been super lucky on IT procs
or long kill times
still pagoda
Or sometimes i use last stand as both SB and cd
As it comes right about the second beam
novel ruin
how long is your kill?
still pagoda
6:55 usually
still pagoda
The guild i'm in... We don't care for that boss already
novel ruin
we've been going for speed kills
sweet summit
link log
novel ruin
only 15th 😦
novel ruin
almost 80 rage wasted 😮 fml
sweet summit
math is hard
strong forum
Could've been faster if you played TD
Is what I meant with my statement, didn't look at the log
novel ruin
yeah i know
figured that is what you meant
reason why i didnt go it is cuz no LPS and 1 of our healers had never really played Disc before
strong forum
Could've shaved off a solid 10 seconds by yourself 
novel ruin
so i cared more about surviving than doing big damage
sweet summit
you couldve been fine without vers if you really wanted. great heal comp for externals gaming
double disc+hpal 😍
strong forum
Xanthos with the smol pp gaming smh
novel ruin
last Ilgy i tanked with TD 5 only gave me 2k more dps 😦
strong forum
So you had 1 proc
sweet summit
im bad at math, but i think 58 is more than 56
novel ruin
on a 6:16 fight
sweet summit
strong forum
Fight duration issue I'd say
novel ruin
yeah it is but i was scared of dying to beam
sweet summit
oh and why didnt you play null? does it not sim higher for you?
strong forum
For me null doesn't sim higher aswell
novel ruin
cuz i didnt want to deal with TFB while trialing as tank
strong forum
It's Cof
Cns vop void for me
(haven't simmed in like 4 months)
novel ruin
cuz i hadnt tanked these fights before
sweet summit
null sims higher than cns for me?
novel ruin
vers gems sims higher than haste gems for me
strong forum
Interest
novel ruin
sweet summit
did a sim, cns does sim lower yeah
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/eAJxw6ENMKutRL9xDGsaRB
novel ruin
vers nav instead of force?
sweet summit
vers isnt bad for dps
sweet summit
force multi undersims tho 👀
novel ruin
sweet summit
😂
novel ruin
coral is almost that 300 difference too
sweet summit
i dont know by how much or anything
novel ruin
and i dont want to use coral
strong forum
Get to use coral in pre-patch for that prot execute
novel ruin
There are only like 2000 prot warriors
for raid
Not like any of us will be playing Prot warrior on pre-patch anyways 😛
novel ruin
@sweet summit you play Blood DK on beta
sweet summit
yeah, like twice 👀
mental anchor
Is blood looking strong?
I’m undecided right now looking at Brew and ppally right now
sweet summit
ya blood epic atm
sweet summit
can we ban the word viable
wide ledge
@novel ruin probably a failed trial I’m assuming
novel ruin
im always failing trials 😦
sweet summit
kinda cringe ngl
wide ledge
Spot opening up in @novel ruin guild
novel ruin
@wide ledge gonna make me play "whats meta"
strong forum
He's Amerilard
wide ledge
That’s right brother
sweet summit
effort 😒
strong forum
Making a comeback
I mean we made our own guild in bfa pre-patch then pulled the plug during EP
novel ruin
rofl
jade socket
sweet summit
strong forum
H-hes watching
sweet summit
🏃♂️
sweet summit
impressive
sweet summit
<Just> autoattacks
novel ruin
He got the joke xD
strong forum
Vectis mythic
Gone sexual gone wrong
He got the joke xD
@novel ruin that's the idea behind the name
vocal berry
with shadowlands dropping soon, should I just put all my echoes in to buying more visions runs to raise my cloak or buy essences so I can tank better?
sweet summit
with pre-patch, all corruption will be gone, and with shadowlands release essences will be pretty much useless once you start leveling
so just go for the mount if anything
vocal berry
word
distant crystal
get the worm
strong forum
3-4 hrs of power grind
Fine tbh
Was the most fun I had in visions since they launched
topaz ember
I got it down to like 16 minutes a run, got all the chests but didn’t bother with the crystals. And I just did it in like two days. Wasn’t so bad
orchid flame
Is there like an “optimal” keybond set up?
undone sun
no, it's incredibly subjective
orchid flame
I figured as much. But just out of curiosity which key do you guys use for intercept and heroic leap I use ‘ for intercept and “shift - ‘ “ for heroic leap
undone sun
shift + tab was mine, used an @cursor condition for it too
novel ruin
@orchid flame I use @mouseover for intercept. Charge/intercept in BFA is my F button, E is my leap. F is my main mobility bind for all characters. In SL, F is charge, shift+f is intercept though that will change on release when I macro em
orchid flame
I don't know why but I don't think I've bound anything to my F key
my main issues that I'm having is rebinding my Heroic leap and Intercept key and also maybe my taunt key
novel ruin
I use a MMO mouse, 7 is my taunt button for any tank
orchid flame
i also have an mmo mouse
and 7 is also my taunt keyo
but 4 is my ignore pain key and sometimes i have fucked up and used taunt when i tried to use ignore pain
novel ruin
R is my ignore pain
4 is shield slam
Rotation abilities are 1-6 for most specs for me
orchid flame
thats interesting
i use my Q E R T and Shift modiffiers for my rotations
my number keys are for Utiltiy + CDs
I used to have the habit of using EDSF for movement instaed of WASD but I got back into using WASD this time around. Mostly because my laptop has those WASD keys Highlighted unlike the rest of my keys
novel ruin
I want to press my rotation without impacting my movement much
steep bone
No, they're shit, just exposed by grevious
rancid ember
civic rover
@limpid pawn i just dont play grievous weeks tbh
i dont understand what's hard about "keep everybody topped off" but the healer inevitable lets a DPS get to like 40% HP from grievous before touching then so now theyre pumping into the DPS and then I take some big magic hit or something and the healer can't heal me because they're pumping into the DPS that they could have put a HoT on 15 seconds ago.
topaz ember
i love playing fury on grievous weeks
so much healing on lower keys healer can almost forget your there
bold wave
Hey guys, anyone know or have any custom art for shield slam/thunder clap spell alerts?
limpid pawn
i'm convinced that healers in the 1500-2500 range are getting HARD carried
like a lot of them are people that would fair much worse as DPS, so they decided to get carried as heals instead lol
topaz verge
I somehow got a 440 TD3 belt on my ilvl 426 war. and now i'm thinking, how the hell do i tank with all this corruption? I only just got R1 cloak so i have very little ability to reduce from the +75 I've never had a character with corruption above 40 before. What corruption do people normally tank at?
sweet summit
Some play up to 59, some like to stay sub 39. Kinda depends on yourself, if you can handle the extra slow and tfb. The eye and tfb is reflectable, so you can often outplay them + avatar(even vision proc iirc) cleares the slow
topaz verge
interesting to know
sick sentinel
I had 2 thing from beyond at same time and that's was enough to convince me
But I'm not very good player either so
honest plinth
Storm Bolt 1, sr 2nd. Aldo cns Major is rly nice if you are playing with 40+ corr
But man i hate that Slow corruption haha
strong forum
Often it's also buggy
novel ruin
SR both
strong forum
So when you have 2 spirits spawning close to each other (timing wise) , when you reflect 1 both disappear
novel ruin
^
Then Stun the water blast
well, stun the wash away actually, eat water blast to the face
@undone sun Bear chat rn 😮
novel ruin
People were discussing Covid and sharing opinions and things were getting bearly.
sweet summit
tidal coral
Complete newb to prot warrior and I want to learn it. However feeling a bit overwhelmed setting up my bars with all the spells. Can someone help me please.
novel ruin
Sure, whatcha trying to do? Using MMO mouse? What spec did you play before? @tidal coral
strong forum
Do it like everybody else. Throw abilities on random buttons and just go with the flow
tidal coral
@novel ruin i use a corsair scimitar and razer tartarus v2
@strong forum cant do that. I like to use certain binds for across the board abilities
My interupt is always on the same key for every class / spec
novel ruin
Idk if those are mmo mice or not
But anyways
I use an mmo mouse, 12 button. 1-6 is my main rotation abilities, Q is my ST stun, 7 is taunt for all tank specs, F is charge/main movement ability, E is secondary movement, C is kick. R is ignore pain/main CD of a spec. F1-F3 is avatar, last stand, Rallying, Shift1 is Demo,
The icy-vein guide is a great starting point. Then if you wanted more info relating to m+ gearing, rotation, etc, you can read my guide @tidal coral
tidal coral
@novel ruin odd request can you send me a screenshot of it?
Also thank you for your help!
novel ruin
I will when I’m home.
tidal coral
Thank you!
autumn pendant
Xanthos has guide? 👀
autumn pendant
🤔
halcyon kiln
Who is Xanthos
autumn pendant
No I am Xanthos
novel ruin
Hi Xanthos
brittle owl
dad?
novel ruin
I’m a deadbeat dad who is leaving y’all
steep bone
Nono, I'm xanthos
hardy radish
WE are Xanthos
halcyon kiln
How are y’all liking SL prot? I main warrior and saw Xan calling out the bears earlier
I main bear*
novel ruin
Prot warrior worse than bear now imo
halcyon kiln
At least y’all have a bit of synergy
novel ruin
Way less of it.
sweet summit
No I am Xanthos
sweet summit
why do i have a stick on my back
strong forum
Maybe you're sticky
novel ruin
Staffing it up
sweet summit
🥢
delicate swan
Hinting you to play brewmaster
civic rover
just play every tank
novel ruin
crude pond
Guys is there any perfect guide for mythic Carapace and Nzoth? The comments in wowhead guide say it's not enough
crude pond
thanks. Would it be ok if I haven't stacked vers? I only have gears with haste/crit and TDs
crude pond
oh, that's a relief. actually the raid leader asked me if I have any vers stacking gears after inspecting my character
strong forum
bonk him
crude pond
crude pond
I'm a quite late runner, my ilvl is 478
sweet summit
thats overgearing mythic btw
crude pond
then that's another relief for me
strong forum
if early guilds can kill bosses without vers stacking and a rank 6 cloak, i believe you should be able to with high max corruptions and higher ilvl than them 🙂
strong forum
yuh
modern brook
thats before the primary steroid isnt it?
strong forum
steriod is r12
so several weeks before
r6 is when you could use the CD to turn off the eyes n shit
nova bane
Best Ally race for warrior prot? 😉
sweet summit
dwarf looks aight, human looks good, nelf is cool, velf is also kinda cool
dwarf probably has the "best racial" 🤔
but for me, it comes down to what looks the best
strong forum
for me? its dwarfs
delicate swan
For me its the Erga race
strong forum
Erga cute goblina irl?!
delicate swan
i was talking about the -20% intelect racial +30% brainfart
that one is pretty pog
sweet summit
smooth brain gang 😎
edgy abyss
Erga is simping me
delicate swan
that what i mean 🤷♂️
edgy abyss
No Kapp.
sweet summit
skia
delicate swan
Pepega Cells
sweet summit
👋
edgy abyss
👋 Yep Cock
delicate swan
🍆 👋
ember arrow
Wow good?
edgy abyss
nah FF better
sweet summit
nah
edgy abyss
🙂
delicate swan
Tibia BiS
delicate swan
@sweet summit buy it for me
sweet summit
ok
ember arrow
sweet summit
but only if you promise to play
bought it for nick some weeks ago and he still hasnt played it :/
ember arrow
Memories
delicate swan
let me find some good memories
topaz ember
It’s free on mobil if you want to try it out first and it has cross Olay with pc
Play*
sweet summit
mobile
delicate swan
like im a dickhead to erga but i wont waste his hard worked money
cause that would be a Nick move
kekw
topaz ember
The game is super cheap tho if you just want to buy it on steam
sweet summit
exactly
novel ruin
Among us 😮
sweet summit
youre joining too xanthos
unreal parrot
noob question about SR
If I use it while the bolt is mid air, does it still get reflected, or only the next one?
Do I have to SR before the spell is even finished?
undone sun
No, as long as sr is up when it hits you
sweet summit
you gotta cast reflect before the cast finishes, or it wont be reflected
undone sun
Hmm
civic rover
@sweet summit am i invited to among us
sweet summit
if you can play tomorrow, yeah
we cant get enough people today
but we can tomorrow
civic rover
gamer
autumn pendant
@sweet summit 🤔
sweet summit
you too
sweet summit
bfa is kil
steep bone
Why play among us
autumn pendant
Cause it is fun
sweet summit
it literally owns
steep bone
novel ruin
Cuz you get to play with the dead Rosjen
Doesn’t That mean SR works differently in PvP then? Cuz you can SR right before Gpyro hits you to reflect two of em. Or is that cuz it reflects everything for those 5 seconds so it doesn’t matter?
steep bone
I dont think You can reflect gpyro once its flying to You
autumn pendant
You cant
Once cast is finished
It will 100% hit you
you need to SR before cast is finished
novel ruin
Got it
still pagoda
it does
honest plinth
be careful engi brez can now kill you on live
obsidian cairn
Can you get the psychic shell from the 4 mythic's
grand drum
yes you can get it from the weekly quest turn in
steep bone
unsub guys, the end is near
undone sun
steep bone
legit forcing myself to play
icy monolith
topaz ember
A friend is just getting into the game and showing them around is keeping me going.
crude pond
Can I laugh at Bashing tentacles in mythic Nzoth with 
??