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main vault
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is it?

strong forum
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its pretty new so it cant be that one

sweet summit
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oh

main vault
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Its not new

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Its from 2017

strong forum
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if it was 1-1.5years ago

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dont recall

main vault
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thats why I think its the same site and they quit those shit guides and have rebranded

strong forum
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:pepelaff:

sweet summit
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kekw

crude pond
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I've heard that stacking haste/crit is good for damage. But I also know the rule : always higher ilvl. Is it ALWAYS better to equip mast/vers item with higher ilvl, when I'm stacking haste/crit for damage?

sweet summit
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More stats>better stats

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If all you want is dps you can sim yourself

crude pond
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That implies more stats doesn't always mean more dps. Thanks i should start simming

sick sentinel
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Hey all, is there any chance of the faction imbalance getting smaller anytime soon?

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Or will it likely keep getting bigger until factions are removed?

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I really want to go back to alliance :s

sweet summit
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your guess is as good as mine

sick sentinel
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Well making an alliance racial significantly more powerful for m+ didn't help

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Maybe making an alliance racial overpowered for a raid tier will help?

sweet summit
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thats just toxic

sick sentinel
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So was the snowball effect of horde becoming more popular over 6 years

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You unwillingly swapped to horde, and so did I :(

sweet summit
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im ok with that

sick sentinel
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Horde cities are a mess

distant crystal
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just let ppl fuckin pve cross faction

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there is 0 reason not to

sick sentinel
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Fully agreed

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The only people who could be against that, would be the ultra casual majority of the people who fund this game

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Sadly...

distant crystal
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they wouldn't care at all lol

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they can turn it off for the rp servers for muh lore

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idc

sick sentinel
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'alliance and horde raid together? Back in my days, we fought each other to the death!'

main vault
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There is no way they can fix the imbalance now

novel ruin
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I don’t want to raid with horde

sweet summit
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):

main vault
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@sweet summit wowplus

sweet summit
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never heard of it :/

strong forum
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oh yeah

undone sun
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lucky you

sick sentinel
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@novel ruin i don't think anyone does man

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But we have to, because if you raid with alliance you're doomed to just raidlog

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Or raid at a much lower level than you'd like

novel ruin
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@sick sentinel why at a lower level?

sweet summit
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there are good ally guilds wdym

sick sentinel
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There are, but can you get in them?

strong forum
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a huge majority of alliance guilds have swapped to horde in bfa

sick sentinel
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I don't know, but they could be full since there's little choice

strong forum
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like 90% off the frontpage of ravencrests guilds are horde now

sick sentinel
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Yeah like 5 ravencrest guilds and 3 silvermoon swapped

strong forum
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more

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way more

sick sentinel
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And that's only about the top 5 guilds

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So ravencrest top choice is dead, and the silvermoon raiding scene is on life support

novel ruin
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Alliance is gonna have better racials for next raid

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So gonna be hilarious when the top guilds move to alliance to go dwarf

sick sentinel
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Will that actually happen? I hope so

strong forum
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good chance of that happening tbh

sweet summit
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doubt it

strong forum
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theres talks about it

sweet summit
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they changed a lot of the mechanics

strong forum
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but the last 2 bosses dont have bleeds

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so is just as good chance of it not happening

sick sentinel
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Yeah they wouldn't let an alliance racial be superior

strong forum
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cuz those are the ones that matter

sick sentinel
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Blizzard is against such things

novel ruin
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Last boss has a bleed I thought?

strong forum
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not that i know

novel ruin
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I know Limit has discussed going alliance

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And there are a lot of good Alliance guilds

sick sentinel
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Is the bleed that big? I mean stone form has a cooldown

novel ruin
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During progression it can be

strong forum
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a clutch bleed cleanse is always massive

novel ruin
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Less HPS needed this more dps

waxen cradle
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I went DiD because if gonna be dwarf might as well have some style to it

sick sentinel
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I'm kinda afraid that after the race, limit will just swap back though

novel ruin
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They prob would

sick sentinel
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So it won't make much impact on the imbalance

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Ah :s

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Kinda wish the world first contenders would've done that 6 years ago too

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Back to alliance

novel ruin
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Ehh I wouldn’t mind them being together for m+

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Would mean we wouldn’t get Siege differences again

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But raiding I would like to keep separate

sick sentinel
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Man did alliance get screwed over for that dungeon lol

novel ruin
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I’m in a 2 day 250 world Alliance guild

strong forum
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i would love to go back to alliance

novel ruin
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That’s pretty high

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And most of our raid team is at least 4K io with a couple 6k players

sick sentinel
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250 world? You must be top 5 alliance

novel ruin
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We were 64th alliance

main vault
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Even if it does make guilds swap

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they will just swap back

limpid pawn
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ok, i'm multibox tanking h-nzoth and carrying 2 people via pugs - it's easy enough

old karma
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how much versatility are prot warriors running?

sweet summit
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depends

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where?

old karma
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mythic +

sweet summit
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what level?

old karma
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18+

sweet summit
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not much

old karma
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thought so had a healer trash talking my Vers so i thought i would ask. thanks

sweet summit
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he dumb

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sorry

novel ruin
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press shield block and tell healer to heal

old karma
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LOL thanks

sweet summit
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TRUE

civic rover
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whenever i have a bitchy healer in discord i just say "shut the fuck up and heal"

sick sentinel
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why are you even in discord with a bitchy healer, wouldnt stay in there for long thats for sure

novel ruin
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cuz he is a bitchy tank hehe

urban shore
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my dad is trying to get his action bars setup and get setup with some good addons, anybodfy interested in helping him? he's a PROT warrior

novel ruin
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I like using Afenar's weakauras

urban shore
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i'm not gnna lie chief i know nothing about it - he just told me to ask you guys since he's not really tech savy haha

waxen cradle
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Yeah there set is pretty cool

novel ruin
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download twich

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twitch*

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download some addons from there

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DBM or BigWigs
WeakAuras 2
Plater
are the top 3 i suggest

urban shore
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what is plater

sweet summit
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its a nameplate addon

urban shore
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can someone please please link a weak auras guide?

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i don't even know what those are but i'm going to set up my dad with them

sweet summit
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you download the addon
you go to wago.io
you search for a weakaura you want
you import string
you type "/wa" in game
you click "new aura"
under "external" you pick "import"
paste what you imported through wago.io there
maybe wait for a few seconds, then click "import now"

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you could make your own but thats tedious

urban shore
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so what do these do doe?

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like are they useful for making you incredibly better at the game?

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by the way, you are extremely helpful. i've decided to promote you

sweet summit
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they help you track shit like cooldowns, mob/boss abilities, group cooldowns, healer mana etc

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no worries mate, im doing my best

urban shore
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you're a god amongst pathetic warrior men!

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thank you sir

sweet summit
honest plinth
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can any1 explain tos shroud strat pls step by step. coz it seems like im doing something wrong sometimes. and i want this 1 extra minute for timer

naive barn
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Ty erga. Nice collection :-)

steep bone
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Hi frens peepoHappy

ember arrow
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Wow good?

strong forum
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Not yet

novel ruin
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@steep bone we should beta today

civic rover
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imagine not having beta lol

grand drum
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I dont need to imagine pepsihands

novel ruin
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I’m sorry guys

civic rover
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xanthos if you stream beta ill watch it

brittle owl
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i won't

novel ruin
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Sure

steep bone
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@novel ruin can't i've visitors ;s

novel ruin
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@steep bone i say hi to your visitors

steep bone
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@novel ruin i hate them

still pagoda
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@steep bone we should beta today
@novel ruin

imagine not having beta lol
@civic rover pepsihands

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i still don't have it

novel ruin
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Email Blizzard

brittle owl
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send them noods

sweet summit
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me too

sweet summit
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@novel ruin do u have among us

novel ruin
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no cuz i dont have friends

sweet summit
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sadge

novel ruin
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maybe if i had a large enough friend group

sweet summit
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bis game

ionic fern
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Do you tho?

novel ruin
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are you inviting me

sweet summit
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yes

novel ruin
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to be your friend?

strong forum
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RP games weird

sweet summit
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wow is an rp game u mong

undone sun
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True

strong forum
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nothing RP about it

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only slam

sweet summit
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@novel ruin get it we need 1 guy for 10 man

novel ruin
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Im busy doing school work currently 😦

sweet summit
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:(

undone sun
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wow weird

still pagoda
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other games than wow
@steep bone

EVE and playing through Sleeping Dogs again in my case

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weird wow 2 months before new expac

steep bone
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doing some guild achi runs

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xD

late notch
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So, how is a 465 Lingering Sporepods Vs a 470 Psychic Shell for M+. I have a 475 Vita as my other trinket

sweet summit
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not sporepods

undone sun
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Sporepods is very, very not good

sweet summit
late notch
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Ok

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Making sure

sweet summit
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shell is good if you need a defensive trinket

late notch
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Ability seems like the proc rate would be pretty low

sweet summit
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get another statproc trinket like scale if you dont

late notch
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I have scale also, but I like the extra defensive in emergencies

sick sentinel
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Why are dungeon tank trinkets considered to be very bad?

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The mechagon one too

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Is that one better for leather users? Since the flat armor would be more valuable for them

sweet summit
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because they are bad

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all of them

undone sun
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dungeon trinkets, more often than not, don't scale very well

sick sentinel
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With item level?

undone sun
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that's implied with scaling, yes

sick sentinel
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Sporepods seems decent on paper

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Like an urchin which also does damage

sweet summit
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but it can proc when youre full hp

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and do nothing for you

undone sun
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defensive procs aren't ideal to start

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and it does offensive and damage mediocre at best

sick sentinel
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What about KR ritual bandages

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That's an active that kind of looks like nzoth trinket active

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I have that one in 475 in my bags

strong forum
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its the least worst dungeon trinket, but its not great either

undone sun
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least worst yep

sick sentinel
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It probably is the least worst ye

strong forum
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its a 2x IP on a 1.5min CD

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treat it as you will

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🙂

sick sentinel
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I guess the nzoth one just has greater numbers and Lower cooldown

undone sun
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it's definitely better than sporepods

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after the buff to trinkets like mid way through bfa it's sizable

sick sentinel
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Well true physical trinkets hold up

novel ruin
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Rezans and Gore-crusted too good

sick sentinel
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Yep and dice spyglass for agi, casters tanks and healers just got screwed I guess

novel ruin
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Defensive trinkets only have value if you will get the use out of said defensive within 30sec of its CD

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And for 99% of players they don’t need that extra upfront defense

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So having a trinket that increases a stat is generally better since most stats increase offensive and defensive progress

sick sentinel
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Also doesn't the fact that nzoth trinket blocks 90% of the damage, effectively increases its absorb by 10%?

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Since 10% of the damage coming through is nothing

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Was kinda wondering about that

novel ruin
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I’m not too familiar with the inner workings of Nzoth trinket since I’ve never used it

sick sentinel
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Fair enough, I think it's better in m+

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Not so much in raids

novel ruin
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It’s better for high m+ keys

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Otherwise going stat trinkets is better

brittle owl
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it's a good buffer for certain pulls or if pulls last long enough that you need something to bridge SB gaps

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it's virtually useless sub 20ish keys

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maybe even higher ones

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nzoth trinket was invaluable for prog though for certain tanks on certain fights, prot warriors being one of them

chilly brook
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Nzoth trinket was great on Raden on monk

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I also find it fairly useful on monk in m+

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Dont really find it too useful as DH tho

distant crystal
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absorb/heal trinkets are dumb on monks

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celestial fortune too stronk

chilly brook
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Truth

sick sentinel
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@distant crystal dont they all run like urchin though

woven trellis
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hi i have a question about versatility

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i just wanted to understand how memory of lucid dream minor give me more base versatility than minor warden

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i dont read it

sweet summit
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warden doesnt give vers at all, lucid minor gives it on the proc

woven trellis
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well

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im not talking about the proc

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like

sweet summit
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🤔

woven trellis
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lets say im on warden minor

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i have 48% versatility

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alright?

sweet summit
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ok

woven trellis
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and if i go back to lucid dreams

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and if i battle shout me

sweet summit
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oh you are losing HoD

woven trellis
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i go to 48%

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and its not because of the proc

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if i go back to warden

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i stay to 48 until i battle shout

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which bring me back to 46

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o

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right

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im losing HoD

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makes sense

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xd

distant crystal
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yeah and heart is weird

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it doesn't kick in immediately always when you move above/below 25corr

sick sentinel
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Does anyone know the uptime of lucid minor?

novel ruin
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20-25ish i believe

sick sentinel
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Oh not too bad

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Ty

lucid dew
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Which tank is doing the most damage right now in shadowlands

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For m plus

sweet summit
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prob pally

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or did the nerfs nuke them too hard

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not sure

novel ruin
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pally for AOE i believe

oblique garnet
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Tank damage is fairly even with only outlier being bear which does significantly less

undone sun
oblique garnet
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@undone sun do you know if moonfire is still bugged where it doesnt generate threat?

undone sun
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It too sure, I vaguely remember it being fixed

boreal wave
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@fierce juniper

cinder marten
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quick question guides tell me to go full haste but is the to much haste i go over 120% with procs should i get more crit?

undone sun
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as long as you aren't dropping ilevel for haste, it's fine really

cinder marten
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was thinking on swaping enchants and socket for vers or crit

novel ruin
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What Thyme said

limpid pawn
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you're good mayne

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for the last few weeks, dat haste will make TD proc more

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then RIP warriors 😮 maybe

sick sentinel
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I doubt it

gloomy cosmos
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I got challenger as prot. Proud of me? First time doing Arenas was in 8.3 so... /flex

sweet summit
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big lad peepoHappy

onyx vessel
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got 9/12M now

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slightly less trash

sweet summit
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pogpog

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grats mate

still pagoda
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Pog

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Get on board

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The slog of last bosses

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Tbh, carapace is the only boss i enjoy doing right now.

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And partially nzoth cuz it's memeworthy

hushed creek
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I'm sure it was been asked milion times,but where is best soulbind atm for prot war in your opinion ? I think i'll stick to bastion for spear (aoe stun helps ) but want to be sure I won't crap this up 🙂

ionic fern
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You won't. 🙂 Spear is a solid all-arounder.

hushed creek
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thanks 🙂

rugged violet
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hey everybody, im new around here! I've
been a blood dk main and MT for my guild since wrath dropped and it's finally time to convert to the brown. ♥ hit 448 ilvl and im sitting till Shadowlands. Whats our most convenient OS looking like for dps in terms of gearing atm?

sweet summit
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now, as in BFA?

ionic fern
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@rugged violet welcome.
I think Fury warrior currently, someone can correct me if i'm wrong but they also want crit/haste, no?

sweet summit
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fury is easier atm ish
arms really really want 3x test of might traits and lucid dreams or they dont do damage

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fury is more forgiving with gearing

rugged violet
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well thats about the best new i could have hoped for honestly, fury is a blast to play

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i assume arms will still be nice to scratch the pvp itch

sweet summit
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@strong forum hear that? fury owns catjam

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ye arms is the better pvp spec cos MS

rugged violet
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specifically i meant looking into shadowlands btw

sweet summit
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i believe fury has the upper edge in SL, as of now

strong forum
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Fury triggered

sweet summit
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but fury wants condemn for all content, altho banner/aa isnt too bad overall. think spear is the "worst one" for them, but thats whatever

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oh fury can dual weird onehanders in SL if youre into that 👀

strong forum
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Might gonna save fury for me

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:boomer:

rugged violet
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i was looking into nightfae, the warrior talent seems to be the best for mythic+tanking, but i havent done hardly any research on them

sweet summit
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the pins in #698541559049748520 rank em like spear>aa>boner>condemn in terms of m+ if i understood it correctly

ionic fern
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Spear>AA because Potion>WannabeCatForm.

sweet summit
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:peeposip:

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yummy potion

still pagoda
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@strong forum hear that? fury owns :catjam:
@sweet summit

Legion fury 📈
BfA fury 📉

sweet summit
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idk man bfa fury does kinda own hard

brittle owl
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oh shit rosjen is yellow

still pagoda
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Oh shit he is

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Grats bro

ionic fern
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Oh shit

sweet summit
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oh shit

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cheers mate

undone sun
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Oh shit

ionic fern
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Where has this been all my life - should react with this to everything stupid

brittle owl
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you found it now so

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tell me mwahi

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how much leech do i need in order to start pushing 15 keys

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i really want the mount

undone sun
brittle owl
still pagoda
sweet summit
brittle owl
ionic fern
sweet summit
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is that a SL trinket

ionic fern
sweet summit
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knew it

brittle owl
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is this

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nerubian carrapace 2.0

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mechagon shield redux

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armor plating revamp

undone sun
steep bone
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@sweet summit gratz man 😄

sweet summit
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i dont even have a stream to promote so its pointless pepsihands

ionic fern
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Same.

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Or YT or twitch or twitter or w/e is in these days.

sweet summit
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ye

ionic fern
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Start streaming then and put some clickbait titles. CatjamR

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Atm the "in" topic is SL rankings so..
"Discussing Shadowland tank rankings!!!!"

sweet summit
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PROT WARRIOR DEAD IN SL!?!?!?11

strong forum
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Prot warrior not dead in SL??!?!

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Now that's clickbait.

sweet summit
brittle owl
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PROT WARRIOR DEAD IN SL!?!?!?11
subscribe to my OF to see the answer

steep bone
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PROT WARRIOR OP? !RANKINGS !AMA !SPREADSHEET !VERSATILITY !LEECH !YOUTUBE

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@sweet summit and once you start having 1k subs 10% me ez clap yep

sweet summit
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ill think about it

brittle owl
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!pawn

ionic fern
strong forum
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!drama

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That one always works

ionic fern
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Once SL drops and new people start looking for info i'm gonna hammer down on meme'ing TargetSighted

strong forum
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No memes here move along winde

brittle owl
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slips 100 bucks in pocket

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so anyway, what are our pawn weights in sl

ionic fern
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👍 allowed

sweet summit
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Ill pawn you if you dont stop Pepexecute

brittle owl
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officer this citizen is harassing me

ionic fern
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Sorry,that 100 bucks only gets you one pawn pass.

brittle owl
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slips 2000 bucks

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ahem

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i said

ionic fern
brittle owl
sweet summit
undone jay
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The power of slipping

brittle owl
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cash flows money talks

steep bone
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so about that pawn string

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why would even use one, default ones are more than enough

brittle owl
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no i need a bot to dm me when i type !command

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that way i know it's legit

strong forum
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Eyir sucks socks rocks

gilded tendonBOT
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fuk u @strong forum

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thank u @strong forum

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🧦

strong forum
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There's your bot

steep bone
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does she have more commands?

undone jay
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Idk how that bot works but I love it

steep bone
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Eyir rocks

gilded tendonBOT
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thank u @steep bone

undone jay
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Is it just things that ends in "ocks"

ionic fern
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Best bot.

steep bone
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Eyir socks

gilded tendonBOT
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🧦

steep bone
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Eyir suck

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Eyir sucks

gilded tendonBOT
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fuk u @steep bone

steep bone
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Eyir ucks

undone jay
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Eyir fucks

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Aww I was expecting "damn right"

brittle owl
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its dumber than it looks

sick sentinel
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eyir cocks

idle wolf
steep bone
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Eyir rocks socks

gilded tendonBOT
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thank u @steep bone

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🧦

steep bone
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Eyir sucks say fuk u if versa stacking is the way to go for +10 keys

gilded tendonBOT
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fuk u @steep bone

steep bone
autumn pendant
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it has sick icon

novel ruin
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Oi

oblique garnet
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@ionic fern We must purge the memes TargetSighted

buoyant scroll
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what does the bot do?

jagged pier
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never purge memes

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its half my content when im at work

buoyant scroll
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i mean doesnt memes die anyways after a month?

oblique garnet
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Prot has stayed offtopic for too long its time to stop bonkcat

onyx vessel
brittle owl
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Prot has stayed offtopic for too long its time to stop bonkcat
@oblique garnet no

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u

onyx vessel
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needs more jam

sweet summit
autumn pendant
oblique garnet
novel ruin
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Crying

steep bone
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Isnt prot meme in sl

strong forum
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Not as much as pally is now

brittle owl
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what have they done to my boy pepsihands

novel ruin
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You have a boy?

sweet summit
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who's the dad?

novel ruin
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Erga

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You

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Got promoted 😮

sweet summit
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yas

novel ruin
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Congrats (but how dare you leave us plebs)

brittle owl
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you're also the dad rosjen

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😳

sweet summit
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😳
👉 👈

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i still have brown rank its ok peepoHappy

novel ruin
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It’s weird seeing you glow

sweet summit
sick sentinel
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we started progress on n'zoth yesterday, is it possible for my guild to get Cutting Edge?

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we raid 6h

novel ruin
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Honestly, probably not

sweet summit
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its gonna be tight, yeah

sick sentinel
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you're probably right 😒

sweet summit
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but i believe in you

novel ruin
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20ish pulls a night

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40 a week

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120ish pulls then

sick sentinel
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since we are so late, I doubt we will be in the early part of the curve bell of average pulls needed for a nzoth kill

novel ruin
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I think average guild at this point needs about 200ish pulls

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Maybe 150

sick sentinel
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it's fine, ill try symbolically then since I want to raid in shadowlands

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without any expectations

novel ruin
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It’s good practice for SL since that raid will be harder

strong forum
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Having expectations is what ruined the 2nd half of BFA for me ngl...

sick sentinel
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as long as it isn't as confusing as a lot of nighthold bosses in legion

novel ruin
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Nzoth?

sweet summit
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its very straight forward tbh

sick sentinel
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the fight that made the most sense for me was that bridge boss and the first 3, idk about all the others

novel ruin
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Nzoth is straightforward but punishing

sick sentinel
#

nzoth is just so long

#

it's like doing a +25 dungeon, not being allowed to make any mistake for 30 min long

#

but for only 10 min instead

novel ruin
#

Ehh not really

brittle owl
#

advantage is it's extremely choreographed

novel ruin
#

You can make mistakes, especially now

brittle owl
#

and by now

#

with all the nerfs

#

and cloak resistance

#

you have alot of room for error

novel ruin
#

It’s just punishing if too many people make mistakes

steep bone
#

@sick sentinel dependens how fast You will progress. But if You are geared then it will die in no time

novel ruin
#

It doesn’t help that it isn’t a fun boss

sick sentinel
#

our weakest links are pretty weak sadly

#

we are casual so we never really replaced them

novel ruin
#

I don’t know if I would even try for CE at this point just starting

autumn pendant
#

If you are not hitting secret phase rn i wouldnt even bother progressing it

brittle owl
#

who knows

autumn pendant
#

literally wont make it

brittle owl
#

maybe on prepatch

#

itll be a meme

#

🤷‍♂️

autumn pendant
#

no CE on prepatch

#

so

#

🤷‍♂️

brittle owl
#

o tru

sick sentinel
#

Whats the tank lineup like? Whats the best tank in SL?

novel ruin
#

I just think it’ll feel horrible to get through Psych 2 progging it until Pre-patch and not finishing. Could hurt the raid team rather just clearing 11/12 now and bringing in trials for SL raiding

#

@sick sentinel no one knows

sick sentinel
#

isnt oneshotting secret phase very common nowadays though?

#

like killing it the first time a guild comes across it

autumn pendant
#

my point was, if you arent close to that phase

#

You are some weeks away from kill

#

and prob prepatch will hit sooner

novel ruin
#

I just think it’ll feel horrible to get through Psych 2 progging it until Pre-patch and not finishing. Could hurt the raid team rather just clearing 11/12 now and bringing in trials for SL raiding
@novel ruin @sick sentinel

autumn pendant
#

Which means that many people would have that sour taste in their mouth after trying to get that CE only to be stripped of that. Ofc thats my assumption

strong forum
#

Ye what xanthos suggested seems like a great approach tbh

#

Keep your sanity

#

And just look forward to raiding in SL

#

Pun not intended

autumn pendant
#

Corruption drained our sanity

#

Time to claim it back

novel ruin
#

And first tier of SL will def be harder than Nzoth tier

brittle owl
#

not if you don't play doe

sick sentinel
#

true, thats the only real way of winning this game

novel ruin
#

Winning?

#

Weird way of looking at it

brittle owl
#

only real way to win

#

is to never lose

#

🧠

autumn pendant
sick sentinel
#

the only way to win there

#

double rail-glide

#

couldn't find the pic but yall know it

autumn pendant
sick sentinel
#

thank you ^^

still pagoda
#

literallytrash what is this

#

i was away enough time

#

to not know

novel ruin
#

I don’t know anything

strong forum
#

It's the next literalgarbage

#

But there's many others quite like it in SL

sick sentinel
#

you want a real tank trinket? get ready to drag yourself to the boring realm of raid tanking then

#

it's 6 hours per week and even worse than your day-job

grand drum
#

Thats a god tier trinket right there yep

sick sentinel
#

does anyone know why I have to use a 10- year old flask for versatility?

#

like how was that not infinitely scaled down to a reasonable versatility amount

novel ruin
#

You don’t have to use it

#

It’s barely an increase over strength pot

sick sentinel
#

I run full versa, but why does such a flask give 76 versa

novel ruin
#

And that’s when you are full full vers

#

And if you are running full vers in low keys you are trolling

sick sentinel
#

I mean I only run +23s but my damage is aight, and otherwise bolstering hurts a lot

#

in the latter half of the packs

novel ruin
#

Don’t bolster things so much

sick sentinel
#

I do what I can, so I dont chainpull this week

sweet summit
#

imean sure do vers in 23s if you feel like you need it

sick sentinel
#

I don't feel like I have to

#

But it feels safer, since healers expect to barely need to heal tanks anymore

novel ruin
#

I would just go haste food honestly

#

Cheaper

#

And more fun

#

And you’ll use the haste food during pre-patch

sick sentinel
#

Is there a haste flask?

#

Because I do use baked porttato, but ghost flask

novel ruin
#

No

#

Just strength flask

#

Which you will be using once corruption is gone

#

And it persists through death unlike ghost

sick sentinel
#

OK fair enough, seems like I undervalued the main stats

novel ruin
#

Flasks are so small

#

We use em cuz they are relatively free

#

Same thing with food/pots

#

Super small

#

But free

waxen topaz
#

Is leech worth dropping versa on a piece?

sick sentinel
#

No

#

Not if you run versatile imo

strong forum
#

no its not worth it

sick sentinel
#

A crit mastery piece with leech, vs a haste versa piece of the same ilvl

#

Definitely no

still pagoda
#

@ionic fern WTF IS THIS?

#

oh

#

it is that garbage...

#

that is the new level of literal garbage

sick sentinel
#

What is the second and third?

steep bone
#

Four Three Horsemen literalgarbage of the Apocalypse

civic rover
#

@novel ruin when you getting that stormforged role

sick sentinel
#

Since when does @sweet summit have^^

novel ruin
#

@civic rover idk. Erga has been around longer than I have I think. And warrior is his main role no matter what. Don’t think I know enough about the game no matter how helpful I may be for it at this time.

sick sentinel
#

I'll recommend you to the mods

novel ruin
#

I’ve only been answering questions for 8.3

#

That isn’t enough time

still pagoda
#

2 dungs in a row

#

that's what happens when you forget to switch loot to DPS

sick sentinel
#

Is that the mechagon trinket?

still pagoda
#

yes

#

the symphony of literalgarbage

sick sentinel
#

Why did they make it give 0.1% physical damage reduction when fully powered

#

It makes no sense

novel ruin
#

Cuz some items will be bad

#

And some will be good

#

How games are created

distant crystal
#

eh

sick sentinel
#

It's not even a noob trap because even they don't fall for that

#

Like they fall for sporepods ofc

distant crystal
#

that trinket is exceptionally shit

sick sentinel
#

Yeah

distant crystal
#

like i'd say worse than my'das

novel ruin
#

I’m fine with a place having mostly bad items if they also have BiS items for pretty much every class.

sick sentinel
#

Their recipe for dungeon trinket seems to be, anything other than Stat procs

#

Is AWFUL

strong forum
#

i agree that not every trinket can be good, but ... having trinkets that are this hilariously bad is just mind boggling

#

and more often than not thats tank trinkets, which in turn just makes you wanna loot as dps

novel ruin
#

Who doesn’t wanna do big deeps

sick sentinel
#

Healer(mana related) and tank trinkets

#

Are the worst ye

oblique garnet
#

There has been few outliers in tank trinkets this expansion that have been insanely good for their value

sick sentinel
#

The raid ones are good usually, thankfully

oblique garnet
#

Namely opulence and ashvane tank trinkets

#

Nzoth trinket is very strong aswell being on 1 minute cd

novel ruin
#

LPS

sick sentinel
#

Urchin was exceptional yes

strong forum
#

LPS is just insane honestly

#

if all trinkets would be available at the same time LPS or Diamond would be contenders for #1

still pagoda
#

LPS is insane because of its availability

#

1 minute CD is bonkers for an absorb trinket

sick sentinel
#

I feel like LPS only gets good from like 23+ keys

#

Maybe higher

novel ruin
#

I don’t use LPS in 25/26 keys

sick sentinel
#

Yeah vita or Stat procs are better there

novel ruin
#

Ehh depends

still pagoda
#

I feel like LPS only gets good from like 23+ keys

Exactly

novel ruin
#

I just don’t think I would use LPS every 60/90 seconds thus it’s value is a lot lower

#

It’s a bit different in progression raiding

sick sentinel
#

Because prot warrior is so tanky already

novel ruin
#

LPS gets big value in that setting even if you only use it once a fight

sick sentinel
#

It seems like it would be really good on other tanks earlier

novel ruin
#

I don’t even have LPS lol

sick sentinel
#

I mean the 470 one is good too

novel ruin
#

It is

strong forum
#

i mean you obv only wanna use defensive trinkets in high dmg encounters, thats kinda the purpose obv

#

whats the point of defensive stuff when its not even needed / beneficial

novel ruin
#

Exactly

sick sentinel
#

Probably just for safety

strong forum
#

safety is for 🐒 s

sick sentinel
#

Can't disagree with that

waxen topaz
#

is ineffable truth necessary or just something you use to fill when you can't put more versatiles?

oblique garnet
#

it gives you cds back up faster so it helps making most out of spell reflect etc whenever it procs and its very low budget aswell

waxen topaz
#

I see. I don't have the cloak fully upgraded and limited echoes, so I'm trying to choose what's more worth between versatiles and ineffables

oblique garnet
#

In that case if you are pushing high keys focus on more for versatiles

waxen topaz
#

yeah, my gear is a bit scuffed too, I don't have mythic azerites so I think that getting as much defense as possible from corruptions might be the way to go

sick sentinel
#

I think most warriors just run 1 ineffible truth

novel ruin
#

@waxen topaz If you arent running 24 keys i wouldnt worry too much about vers

#

Most warriors run 2 Ineffables

#

if your gear is scuffed too (vers not on every single piece), Ineffable will be way better

waxen topaz
#

I actually have the option of running 7 Versatilles or 2 IT + 6 Versatiles

novel ruin
#

2nd

waxen topaz
#

I have versa in every single piece

#

just not mythic

distant crystal
#

IT is pretty sweet

novel ruin
#

2nd option

#

IT is extremely valuable in dungeons

waxen topaz
#

I see

novel ruin
#

way more valuable than any vers until high high keys

waxen topaz
#

Oki doki, I will go for it then

#

thanks a lot for the advice

left hatch
#

its been a good month since iv watched the big bois

#

but pretty sure even in the highest key level the 2 IT1's are more valuable than versa

#

or at least everyone wasstill using it for their push keys

#

mighta changed recently though

sick sentinel
#

I have no idea anymore, people kinda stopped pushing

limpid pawn
#

push week is gone forever

#

i think in one more week we will have an ok one, the second grevious week

sick sentinel
#

yeah sang grievous isn't too bad

distant crystal
#

nerf was running 3xIT1 1xSV3 and 5xVers3's the other week

#

...3 hours later ZOOMEReyes

onyx vessel
#

Prot channel cant be dead

#

More jam

novel ruin
#

Everyone left cuz Prot is ded in SL

dense flame
#

New to awakening affix. Are routes still pretty straightforward? Or does the affix add some complexity with mob skips.

rancid ember
#

You used them to skip bad trash packs and go straight to another boss after killing easier trash. Its trial and error you can also just ask group if they have idea on where to drop. Better than just faking it and losing more time

#

Motherlode for example I tend to aim for 57% before going past 1st boss. Then kill trash leading to 2nd ob and take that one to next boss. Then go to 3rd ob killing 1 pack and take direct to 3rd boss. And same thing for 4th. If you leave first area around 57 you'll have 100% by time you make to 4th ob (or 98%~) and the ob will give you the final 2%

dense flame
#

Ah so you literally can game them as you would with a rogue.

#

With some added perks

brittle owl
#

Everyone left cuz Prot is ded in SL
@novel ruin at least there's no more "how much vers do i need for +16 push" from fotm players

ionic fern
#

Prot is not dead.

#

Smh.

#

God damn the community perception.

undone sun
#

lies

brittle owl
#

i'm sorry i only listen to wf raider streams in order to figure out how to build my roster in order to get aotc

distant crystal
#

brb deleting warrior

#

But p sure it's just that nobody is playing wow rn

distant crystal
#

I've done 1 key in the past two weeks

ionic fern
#

I don't think i've touched retail since i got beta.

distant crystal
#

and i usually get a 15+ done on 8 toons

ionic fern
#

👀

distant crystal
#

i still don't have my n'zoth mount tho :*(

ionic fern
#

I got like 30 mounts in general. 🤷

#

😂

distant crystal
#

9 kills

#

never lucky

#

not that it really matters, jaina mount is the only good one this xpac

ionic fern
#

Just rock the OG NE mount.

distant crystal
#

those are actually one of my fav ground mounts

#

any sort of catmount

ionic fern
#

Zulian Tiger.

distant crystal
#

damn it's got a typo in the tooltip

#

that's gotta make it more valuable

brittle owl
#

if you ain't running with black war raptor or OG za bear

#

are you even playing the game

steep bone
#

Tbh if ure not using magic rooster ure ded as a player to me

strong forum
#

If you ain't running swift zhevra are you even a real gamer?

brittle owl
#

if you don't have og pre buff epic mounts

#

do you even deserve clout

steep bone
#

If u dont have nyalotha all seer u arent worthy of my time

onyx vessel
#

Prot warrior will never be dead

#

How much did that cost you @steep bone

brittle owl
#

@steep bone i had nzoth mount drop 3 times. all 3 times, i deathrolled it away

#

out of spite

strong forum
#

Deff Sighted

onyx vessel
#

Im only 9/12m

strong forum
#

Atleast you're not 9/11

brittle owl
onyx vessel
#

Got drest down after 20 pulls tho

brittle owl
#

🚔

onyx vessel
#

Now for ilg

brittle owl
#

ilgynoth

#

more like

#

tiltenough

onyx vessel
#

Yeah we arent gonna kill it

#

Raid started at 930 it took us till 11 to get started

#

Short 5 ppl

brittle owl
#

sounds like

onyx vessel
#

More like phub

brittle owl
#

i'm sorry sir, am only 12 what is phub

#

is it a hub for peas

#

i like peas

onyx vessel
#

Uhhh sure

#

Big peas and small ones

#

👍

brittle owl
#

i like a few big ones

ionic fern
#

Aaand the topic is dropped.

brittle owl
#

between the small ones

ionic fern
#

Moving onto next topic. Ty.

brittle owl
#

do you like peas @ionic fern

onyx vessel
brittle owl
#

🟢

undone sun
#

:well:

steep bone
#

How much did that cost you @steep bone
@onyx vessel like 160 wipes and 4 or 5 kills i dunno xD

topaz verge
#

G0-4W4Y Crowd repeller or Salvaged Mekacycle shielding?

sweet summit
#

equal ilvl?

topaz verge
#

yep

sweet summit
#

the one thats not the mecha shield

topaz verge
#

Cheers

onyx vessel
#

Kekw

#

Mecha shield is fuckingtrash

orchid frigate
sweet summit
#

buy the mount

orchid frigate
#

but its ugly 😦

#

think ill try out resto a bit

strong forum
#

Buy the mount

#

Doesn't matter if its ugly, better to have it than not. The sockets / gear will be irrelevant in less than 2 months

#

The mount stays

orchid frigate
#

true true

#

hmm

limpid zinc
#

u can get mount and sockets u just need to do more X more visions

#

Easy life just do them

orchid frigate
#

easy life it is

#

not even gonna 5-mask for cores anymore

strong forum
#

I just buy cores with the echoes from weekly cache weird if at all

#

Not sure why I do

still pagoda
#

Why even bother. 2-3 weeks before pre-patch anyway

strong forum
#

Yuh

brittle owl
#

wdym

#

you hoard it

#

on the offchance it gets turned into gold

still pagoda
strong forum
#

It gets turned to good ol 💨

still pagoda
#

0.00001% chance

junior ivy
#

hi

strong forum
#

Hi cat

junior ivy
#

hows it going

strong forum
#

Aight, not much tho. Just waiting until pre-patch / SL launch. catjam

#

Hows the baby

junior ivy
#

babys good, and schools back ugh, its all online though. henceme being back on my laptop lol

#

when is new expac out

ionic fern
#

27th of October.

mellow patio
#

Excuse me it is 10.26 for us NA folks

#

See you at level 60

brittle owl
#

imagine writing date as mm/dd/yyyy

sweet summit
#

TRUEEEE

#

NA dumb

#

gottem

brittle owl
#

fkin rekt

mellow patio
#

Whoa you became a yellow name

brittle owl
#

gg wp hawgz now go back to school

sweet summit
#

oh shit

still pagoda
#

I have no studies on October 27th

brittle owl
#

it's my bday on 27th october peepoHappy

sweet summit
#

happy birthday

brittle owl
mellow patio
#

Yeah that week I am entering the shadowlands. My out of office notification for my team at work has the location specified as the maw

brittle owl
#

you should've written "doing a jesus, c u in 3 days

strong forum
#

@brittle owl happt birf

mellow patio
#

Is it an EU thing to say happy birthday 2 months before

strong forum
#

@brittle owl hapn day

mellow patio
#

I hate this

brittle owl
#

when is your birthday @mellow patio

mellow patio
#

I don’t have one

brittle owl
#

so erryday is your birfday

#

@mellow patio hpb

#

@strong forum everyday is @mellow patio bday did you hear

strong forum
#

Pog

#

(don't wanna meme too much though so you're spared for now hawgz)

brittle owl
#

did your balls start shriveling up from the yellow name

ebon hound
#

memeing's dangerous business nowadays 👀

sweet summit
#

@mellow patio happy birthday

novel ruin
#

@mellow patio

mellow patio
#

Jokes on you I like being pinged

#

I am sipping my coffee this morning feeling the love

civic rover
#

hawgz what kind of coffee u drink

orchid frigate
#

@mellow patio gz!

mellow patio
#

I am currently drinking a black Starbucks cold brew because I was too lazy to make coffee this morning, but I am typically a Doma beans man

#

My heart will explode when I am 50, I am at peace with that

civic rover
#

i dont even drink coffee

brittle owl
#

ew starbucks

civic rover
#

i live in a small hippie town in california so every month there's some new fancy herbal energy drink

orchid frigate
#

give me one of those 1500 kcal pumpkin lattes

mellow patio
#

Caffeine is caffeine breh and I live in the Starbucks capital of the world

brittle owl
#

🤮

mellow patio
#

There is one across the street

orchid frigate
#

seattle?

mellow patio
#

Yep

brittle owl
#

if it ain't esspresso, turkish coffee or tonic coldbrew

orchid frigate
#

nice

brittle owl
#

what's the point of living

civic rover
#

i live in the town where they're made.

mellow patio
#

That seems like I would grow twigs for limbs if I drank that

#

Which I suppose is better than my heart exploding

civic rover
#

it's basically an energy drink but it looks like it was made by a stoner, which it was.

mellow patio
#

Does it get you stoned

civic rover
#

no

brittle owl
#

whack

civic rover
#

but it gets you awake holy shit

brittle owl
#

i get awake by drinking 5 raw eggs in the morning and drinking calf blood

mellow patio
#

Calf... coward

orchid frigate
#

wonder why the raider.io addon is updated so frequently

mellow patio
#

If you don’t wait until the cow dies of natural causes and drink the bacteria ridden blood where is the value

strong forum
#

I like the word yerba. Pronouncing it is fun

#

🏴‍☠️

civic rover
#

you should see all the teenagers in my town dude they love it too

#

like i sometimes student teach the band now at the high school and everyone has one of those things.

mellow patio
#

Whatever happened to good old fashioned monster energy

#

Today’s kids are soft

#

Back in my day we drank monster until we graduated to fourloko

civic rover
#

it's literally a monster advertising itself as something else

novel ruin
#

Energy drinks naeno

mellow patio
#

My body is a machine

#

A machine needs fuel

novel ruin
#

Eat more spinach then

civic rover
#

dont listen to him, eat pizza

novel ruin
#

Spinach pizza

civic rover
#

spinach pizza is actually good as fuck

novel ruin
#

Ye

#

With some garlic and mozzi

civic rover
#

my girlfriend makes a fucking killer pizza

novel ruin
#

We have a pizza place here and the owners from Italy where their parents had a pizza shop. Best pizza around

#

Expensive but so worth

brittle owl
#

while i respect cheese with spinach and tomato sauce

civic rover
#

there's a place like 25 minutes away that does really good chicago style deep dish

brittle owl
#

spinach on pizza seems pointless tbh

novel ruin
#

White sauce

#

Not red

civic rover
#

barbeque chicken on white sauce

#

pretty fire tbh

brittle owl
#

🤔

#

yeah no

novel ruin
#

You just dislike pizza

brittle owl
#

american palette in regsrds to pizza is gross

#

fucking italy having a collective heart attack.rn

novel ruin
#

Pizza is a canvas

brittle owl
#

true, few, quality ingredients, usually less than 3, and good dough

#

that's what the pizzaiolo academy teaches

novel ruin
#

Cheese stuffed crust

brittle owl
#

(yes there is a certification to get in italy in order to make pizza)

#

rest are just pies but like, pizza is special

distant crystal
#

@orchid frigate wut

#

it's updated frequently to get current score data lol

brittle owl
#

nah you get extra pomodoro sauce for the pizza crust

#

or you brush it with garlic honey

#

if i want cheese stuffed bread i get a grilled cheese or a croque madame

distant crystal
#

Khachapuri

civic rover
#

americans in general are gross

mellow patio
#

WHITE SAUCE

civic rover
#

source: am american

mellow patio
#

ON PIZZA

novel ruin
#

Is amazing

sweet summit
#

stuffed crust peepoHappy

civic rover
#

stuffed crust is fucking great

brittle owl
#

stuffed crust is every stoned teenager's dream

civic rover
#

yep

brittle owl
#

but they also dream about silicone tits and abandonment soo

civic rover
#

i was fat in high school, shit was literally better than sex.

novel ruin
#

I’ve only been high twice in my life

mellow patio
#

Lame

novel ruin
#

2nd time was during a laser tag birthday party

#

Never doing that shit again

civic rover
#

first time i got high was right before my school jazz band concert

novel ruin
#

I’m pretty sure it was laced with other stuff

#

Since weed shouldn’t have made me think people were monsters and the colors going wild in there

civic rover
#

right now i'm pretty much only high because my girlfriend is a stoner lol

mellow patio
#

I once visually saw music

#

So anything can happen

distant crystal
#

i mean it's laser tag

#

the colors are supposed to be going wild in there lol

civic rover
#

paranoia can happen with weed

#

maybe it was that.

#

maybe you were just ridiculously high.

novel ruin
#

But I’m the type of person who doesn’t enjoy drugs/even taking pills

distant crystal
#

p unlikely that someone is going to lace your weed with something more expensive :p but if you've got low/no tolerance that sounds about right

novel ruin
#

So nowadays I stick to water and ice cream

civic rover
#

i stick to pizza, potstickers, sushi, burritos, and reuben sandwiches.

distant crystal
#

i stick to rotgut whiskey and crystal meth

civic rover
#

im amazed that i'm not 300 lbs

strong forum
#

Depends on how much you eat. Not what

civic rover
#

i eat an insane amount of food

distant crystal
#

big brains burn big calories

civic rover
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i literally eat like five meals a day

strong forum
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Some people are also amazed that I don't weigh more.
But I often also just forget to eat

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Especially when at home.

mellow patio
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If there is one thing I don’t do... it’s forget to eat

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🤣

strong forum
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Got that natural intermittent fasting

mellow patio
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But I am planning a semi unintentional fast during SL launch week

strong forum
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Technically I can eat a meal every 2hrs when im out doing shit cuz I got that chad metabolism.

distant crystal
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i used to be able to eat so much trash food and never fatten up

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that shit all went away in late 20's tho

strong forum
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People have been telling me that for 9 years now.

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Still waiting

distant crystal
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also used the be able to get super shitfaced drunk and wake up feeling amazing

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that went away around the same time

strong forum
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"wait until puberty is over"
"wait until you're 22+"

civic rover
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i eat the same way i did in high school and i've gotten smaller lol

chilly brook
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Only been high once afaik

novel steeple
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Didn't hit me till I got married few years back. Now I'm pushing 40 and just don't care anymore

chilly brook
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Only been high once afaik

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Painkillers suck

strong forum
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Ye I think GF is the real factor in gaining weight

distant crystal
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it kinda worked out tho, sugary snacks really lost their appeal as i got older too

strong forum
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Ye I think GF is the real factor in gaining weight

distant crystal
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it kinda worked out tho, sugary snacks really lost their appeal as i got older too

strong forum
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Yeah im starting to snack less

distant crystal
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and soda tastes like pancake syrup now

mellow patio
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I feel like I get hungover from eating sugar now

novel steeple
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No sugar. Just coffee....lots of coffee

mellow patio
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But I’ll be damned if I turn down a Diet Coke every now and then. Idc if it’s giving me cancer it is delicious

civic rover
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soda is probably the worst thing a human can consume tbh

strong forum
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Liquid poison consooomer here ama

distant crystal
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polonium 😏

civic rover
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i don't drink soda but i was never given it as a kid so whenever i try one now i can barely take a sip.

mellow patio
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My god nome you drink soda too

strong forum
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Worse.

civic rover
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i drink a fuckton of chocolate milk though.

strong forum
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Energy drinks

chilly brook
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I drink far too much soda

mellow patio
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Why are some blessed with such metabolisms

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That’s actually tilting lmao

chilly brook
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It's literally the biggest source of my calories for sure