this is skyhold
#protection
brittle owl
pearl summit
exactly
big yoke yes
anyone else gonna miss versatile fluff pillow?
I lived jumping with the stun debuff in a fh yesterday
strong forum
Nom go become a BM main
@novel ruin over my dead body
novel ruin
I won’t miss versatile
sweet summit
haha thats me
mellow patio
Vers is for || N E R D Y NERD NERDS ||
steep bone
Stacking vers is ||for pro Gamers 12-15+ weekli no leavers||
sweet summit
theres a stun debuff in freehold?
novel ruin
if youj jump
sweet summit
oh taht thing
steep bone
Or if You get charged
sweet summit
same
steep bone
Ehh
How big pp death knights player have? And how big pp brmonks?
Lets say that pwar is ===================> pp
novel ruin
my DK's io doesnt even show up yet
steep bone
I aint playing spastic autism incarnate vdh or thrash spam beer
sweet summit
kekw
steep bone
Im gonna be proud with my large tiny pp dk brm HEHE
modern brook
pwarr has always been the only answer
sweet summit
arent you a rogue
steep bone
A roge and druid 
sweet summit
i see youre one of those elite gamers only playing the best specs in each role
sweet summit
same high five 🖐️
steep bone
What is ropayhhn
sweet summit
oui
strong forum
That's the 1 word I can decipher
Cuz im constantly being warned not to invite anyone specifically from that Realm
modern brook
is russia EU's BR?
novel ruin
Time to do some SL leveling
sweet summit
yes bull
modern brook
T-T rip karton
steep bone
Cuz im constantly being warned not to invite anyone specifically from that Realm
@strong forum same with twisting nether, burning legion, hyjal, blackmoore
Thats my personal blacklist and ive Heard similar opinions
mellow patio
Crucible minor
chilly brook
Stonks
mellow patio
Formless void AND sotw
civic rover
The mistweaver in my push group is on Ragnaros and I don’t know why he doesn’t just transfer to Illidan or something.
Dude could easily get in a solid CE guild if he transferred but he just refuses to lol, then complains that pugs don’t invite him
strong forum
obv doesnt care enough about CE
strong forum
grats
strong forum
now youre protected
civic rover
Lol
unreal parrot
I don't want this shit
Second time I get this shit
give me a stat proc
I wanna do big deeps
strong forum
loot as dps then 
civic rover
pug mythic wrath
sweet summit
pug mythic carapace
steep bone
mark of Гордунни is still on you
still pagoda
and Gordunni is also one of the biggest EU alli hubs
and also biggest RU ally server
@steep bone PTSD from raiding on RU will always be with me
steep bone
i still don't get why eu ppl cant make acc on RU but RU can migrate to eu
Man, you could've been on silvermoon or ravencrest ally
steep bone
oh?
still pagoda
just as we need to English
steep bone
Oh lulw
steep bone
actually, if you transfer hunter with cyrylic names on pets, are they also transferred as cyrylic or they getting reset?
still pagoda
actually, if you transfer hunter with cyrylic names on pets, are they also transferred as cyrylic or they getting reset?
Names are reset
you get free name change for the toon
steep bone
NO
still pagoda
just to test whether i can apply cyrillic names
steep bone
don't go that way
still pagoda
🦀
steep bone
I already tried
still pagoda
i won't spend another $20 to move a huntard from Gordunni to whatever server
i'm gonna buy SL and just chill paying for EVE(maybe not as i've figured out how to semi-passively plex one acc) and WoW subs
till launch
steep bone
i still havent bought sl
still pagoda
no beta...
steep bone
LULW?
steep bone
still pagoda
blizz will move everyone onto it soon anyway
let me check with standard one
nah
i don't have it at all
no beta this addon i guess
steep bone
i dont like to play on beta anyway
still pagoda
same
still pagoda
experiencing it during launch is way more exciting
steep bone
im gonna religiously nolife until i get max level and unlock everything thats unlockable day1 anyway
so not gonna do it before xD
steep bone
i did that for bfa so i could sit for like 30h or some XD
but i had serious delays, took me like 40mins to finish magni rp at the very beggining
civic rover
im using my week of paid time off on the week SL releases
modern brook
what if its bad tho
still pagoda
i will have to be really time efficient during launch
civic rover
it's literally just to get all the tanks to be max level
still pagoda
to get 1-2 toons raid ready
civic rover
then ask my raid lead what he wants me to play and gear that first
still pagoda
not going to overblow, just warrior and pala/DK/BrM
civic rover
which is looking like he wants me to play vengeance
modern brook
Is that based off beta?
Where spirit bomb is still uncapped
As of like August 20 soemthing-th
steep bone
imagine capping targets
civic rover
i think it's because havoc isnt looking too hot
and he wants the magic debuff
so tanks might be monk and dh, but nothing is 100% yet
modern brook
that makes sense i guess
civic rover
and then if there's any fight where add management is really important I can just go DK for those fights
rancid ember
Noob question - Have any other tanks been superior to Warriors in Mythic+ in any expansions / patches? I only picked up BFA back in May.
still pagoda
Legion
DKs reigned over the game
but balance was pretty good overall for it not to matter at all
steep bone
bonestorm dk was aids
still pagoda
20mil HPS affli lock was the real cancer
mellow patio
What you didn’t like complete immunity for 10 seconds
steep bone
i mean legion affli was fiine, only could solo raid bosses as dps
civic rover
in legion warrior was always kinda good but other tanks reigned supreme a lot of the time
bear comes to mind
still pagoda
^
mellow patio
Lmao legion bear
still pagoda
all tanks were good in Legion
kind of the same rn i guess
just as it will be in SL
steep bone
sad part is that everything is viable for most of the content, yet playing as non meta is so hard if you've no stable group
still pagoda
just pick whatever you like
mellow patio
The real mvp was wod bear
still pagoda
sad part is that everything is viable for most of the content, yet playing as non meta is so hard if you've no stable group
@steep bone
MAN, you're making me go pala just to heal your ass
civic rover
unless you're a tank
still pagoda
indeed, i'm an active tank in our guild
but guess i can start covering M+ as a healer
on top of raiding as a tank
and anyway i'm planning on pala as the main alt
civic rover
im maining whatever my RL wants me to then playing bear with boomie offspec outside of raid
mellow patio
Oh that’s nice your RL pays your sub
civic rover
nah i just dont give a shit what i play in raid tbh
mellow patio
Fair enough
grim hornet
Does anyone know whether you can still find the Hidden Artifact Skins even without the Artifact equipped?
civic rover
and he lets me play whatever i want on farm anyway. i don't mind, he tells me I can play whatever I want for prog too but I'd rather just play what makes killing bosses easiest for the raid and if that means playing vengeance for chaos brand that's aight with me
you don't need the artifact equipped you just gotta get the weapon and read the stone thing in skyhold
mellow patio
Vengeance looks and feels good rn I’ll definitely have one
civic rover
yeah it's pretty fun on beta according to my cotank
swift moon
I’m still trying to figure out if I’m switching main from warrior.
Warrior been my main since early bc switched to BrM for 8.0 but went back to warrior.
Warrior had all my achievements and reps 90+ reps exalted. So want want to maybe main a better tank and just my alt be warrior to level reps and such
sweet summit
warrior is the only right answer mate
swift moon
I know, I love him, but never ranked on pally always healed on pally, and heard pally are doing really well as tanks in SL. And warriors aren’t.
sweet summit
sad truth
swift moon
But also, how friendly is SL for alts if i only do two? Pally / warrior
swift moon
Makes me feel better about doing two toons. I’m be eh not hardcore either
swift moon
Oh shit really? Good to know!
Bring them all even so I won’t feel obligated to main anything else to help guild progress.
novel ruin
It wasnt an actual nerf to paladins yesterday
It was like a 7% nerf to EHP on physical damage and a 5% gain in magic/bleed damage
They'll prob get their damage nerfed in teh next couple of weeks though
novel ruin
yeah, it makes judgement #1 prio now again instead of AS
and smooths out the gameplay besides for the start of an encounter
less Holy Power on pull
but smoother experience throughout a fight
brittle owl
it makes WoG not worth pressing outside of odd cases
chilly brook
AM baseline
orchid frigate
does this clipping exist on real taurens as well? got this with coin of many faces
civic rover
probably
orchid frigate
bah
civic rover
play panda 
orchid frigate
nooo
brittle owl
tauren so thiccc they break the space time continuum
civic rover
@orchid frigate but in all seriousness my pally is tauren with the mage tower weapon and it clips a lot
orchid frigate
and here i was considering changing my orc to hm tauren
orchid frigate
mogs doesnt look very good on vulpies
strong forum
on the contrary
strong forum
they look much better on them than on many other horde races
civic rover
panda mogs are the funniest doe
strong forum
aka the only good mog they can run is farmer
orchid frigate
horde side mogs = female orc bis
strong forum
better than most
female HM/tauren are also pretty 👌 and good animations too
way better than their male counterparts, horrible horrible tmog and animations
civic rover
undead in general has good animations imo
sweet summit
thinking about going undead for sl 👀
strong forum
i tried undead for a few days
civic rover
tauren male has amazing mogs the fuck you mean
strong forum
the race is designed to die in a ditch
civic rover
vulpera player 
civic rover
every race is bis except mechagnome
strong forum
went to belf to save my ass
civic rover
fuck mechagnome all my homies hate mechagnome
strong forum
went to belf to save my ass
orchid frigate
now im doing the dungeon achievements!
brittle owl
i literally wanted to quit playing Tauren in Legion
@strong forum if you can't stand the heat
get out the kitchen 👉 🚪
strong forum
🐮
orchid frigate
will probably change my DK vulpera to HM tauren then
orchid frigate
stop being rational
novel ruin
And best race
deep steppe
novel ruin
Get outta here
steep bone
If youre not fem belf just dont speak 
ancient idol
sweet sequoia
So, have we figured out the best covenant for warrior pvp? I figured it was Ven'thir, but I have to take Kyrian for tanking dungeons so I'm at a loss.
sweet summit
prot in pvp 
sweet sequoia
Haha, with all the tree nerfs? No thanks. Maybe as a base sitter though.
civic rover
imagine choosing horde and then picking blood elf lmao
sweet sequoia
I mean, let's be real here, when they made specific races have access to specific classes I lost it because it ruined the idea. I mean first off, a tauren priest? Really? And secondly blood elves were NOT warriors because their god damn noodle arms should not be able to wield more than 80% of the current weapons in the game.
sweet sequoia
The only thing I have to say to that is the running gag of "There's no such thing as a male blood elf."
brittle owl
playing horde and going belf warrior
is only slightly more basic than a human warrior
just slightly
sweet summit
i will punch you
brittle owl
civic rover
i dont understand the thought process
of picking horde
and then choosing a race thats literally just humans with pointy ears and fancy hair
brittle owl
and smug accents
sweet summit
i dont see the problem with looking good
sweet sequoia
Thank you. Someone gets it @civic rover.
civic rover
and more importantly to me at least
how do people tank on blood elf
i feel like you gotta be like certain races to tank or it doesn't feel the same
sweet sequoia
You mean like choosing Tauren, Orc, Draenei, or Dwarf? The "heavy-built" races?
sweet sequoia
Don't laugh about dwarves, their closer proximity to the center of the earth makes them dodge the higher shot magic stuff that goes above their heads and makes them like turtles when they hunker down.
I blanked out about Pandas and Kul'tiran. My brain is still stuck in the days without the allied races.
brittle owl
i mean
nothing wrong with playing the game ironically
that's what gnomes and goblins are for
civic rover
diaper gnomes
brittle owl
oh ye true
if you really want to make your token diety cry
you play diaper gnome warr with pink hair
no one saw that edit
steep bone
I mean, let's be real here, when they made specific races have access to specific classes I lost it because it ruined the idea. I mean first off, a tauren priest? Really? And secondly blood elves were NOT warriors because their god damn noodle arms should not be able to wield more than 80% of the current weapons in the game.
@sweet sequoia this tbh. Belfs sounds good for mages, warlocks, hunters, rogues and so on, maybe priests too but dunno
sweet sequoia
I know blizzard want more options for people to have class / race wise, but it ruined an element of the game for me.
distant crystal
sweet sequoia
You can play devil's advocate. But here's two examples that are completely stupid in my opinion: Void elf holy priest and Lightforged draenei shadow priest.
sweet sequoia
Tauren paladins you can make an argument for, but the priest thing, nein.
steep bone
naa horde shouldnt have paladins
horde is too primal for that
well maybe belf paladin
sweet sequoia
TBH! Paladins were created by Alonsus Faol (however the name's spelled) and they were initially priests who were sick of sitting in the sidelines, they were priests with warrior experience. Uther was the first paladin and Alosus Faol created the order of the Silver Hand. So yes, by that logic HORDE shouldn't have paladins since they were indeed an alliance creation, but shamanism is more profound in the Alliance from the Wildhammer dwarves being exiled from their own people for shamanism pratice.
steep bone
shamanism is haram
which blizzard is showing us for entire expansion
but then what could undead play'
and why undead are only humans
sweet sequoia
Undead paladin would be the last straw for me. I understand they can be priests, warlocks, mages, and rogues make complete sense since they were at one point living humans.
tawdry cipher
So what about the paladins risen from the dead?
oblique garnet
🚫
undone sun
manic scaffold
sweet summit
kinda both
lucid dew
With being alt friendly it should be easy to manage multiple classes right?
sweet summit
i would hope so
planning on doing 3 characters
2 warriors and one monk/rogue/dk dunno
lucid dew
Wow 2 warriors ha
sweet summit
one for dps
lucid dew
One for dps?
sweet summit
one for tank
lucid dew
Ah
sweet summit
yeah
lucid dew
I’m kinda between warrior DH and monk to start
Bear is out. And I don’t love pally and dk
sick sentinel
So you can't block while feared, but can you block using last stand/bolster whilst feared?
sweet summit
No, it works the same way as shield block
But flat DRs like sw works
And ignore pain
And demo shout
And you have zerk rage 👀
mellow patio
What is “feared”
obsidian cairn
Azerite globules or Elemental whirl. It isn't clear to me from icy veins
steep bone
Whirl
steep bone
wait, globules are A?
ionic fern
no.
steep bone
thats what i thought
ionic fern
Globules is C
obsidian cairn
Ah yes, I just actually read it and azerite veins are they have the same pic
ionic fern
Jeah, that one can be confusing. 😄
strong forum
I remember S1 when we were frothing in the beginning about azerite veins being giga. Hasn't seen any play since then
:sadge:
brittle owl
azerite veins
more like
shitt piss blood veins
people were frothing about any type of selfheal in s1
because we didn't shake off the nerf in powerlevel for tanks just yet
strong forum
Member bonded souls prenerf
strong forum
Bonded lemme giga pad hps
brittle owl
bonded lemme be a soyboy
novel ruin
Good afternoon you Europeans
brittle owl
👋
steep bone
Hello you american @novel ruin
sweet summit
Good morning
civic rover
europeans might have raid right now 
cinder pasture
Imagine raiding on a friday
sweet summit
Who the fuck raids at 5 thats a bit early
drowsy crane
neets have messed up sleeping pattern, i would be surprised if any of those were awake at 5 pm
civic rover
i raid at 5:30 my time but it's 8:30 server time
sweet summit
Thats fair
trim pendant
What essence is the best major for 15's and higher?
sweet summit
VoP major
CnS+Lucid+Sphere/Warden minors
Warden if you need the resistance
rancid ember
Aegis is a solid minor too no? Especially if you don't have CnS
mellow patio
Ya hate to hear that
sweet summit
i did not
think i had 800 score in abt, and that was just me getting boosted by irl friends
sweet summit
rancid ember
Did you push BFA Mythic + since start or no? Just curious 😄
sweet summit
oh shit i was a big boy i had 1.3k io
😂
didnt do any real m+ in season 1
got 2.2k as tank in season 2
got 2.7k as dps in season 3
and now 5.1k as tank in season 4
strong forum
1.7k s1 chad here
rancid ember
Cool maybe yall can address a question or two I have if ya don't mind 😛
sweet summit
go right ahead
strong forum
Only if it doesn't involve vers
rancid ember
I've been trying to find information regarding the scaling of Mythic + as an expansion progresses and been struggling to find info for some reason.
Currently in 8.3 (Since I joined in May) I can get 465 Ilvl gear which > Then Heroic Nya (Minus Cara/N'zoth). Is this always the case with Mythic + IL Scaling Vs Raid Gear?
So in 8.0 8.1 is Mythic + Gear > Then Heroic Raid tier gear for the most part?
strong forum
Pmuch
Max m+ gear that drops from the dungeon is typically slightly higher ilvl or equal to heroic gear.
Max weekly m+ chest used to be 5ilvl less than mythic, as of 8.3 same ilvl as mythic
rancid ember
Interesting that was going to be a follow-up on that cool good to know.
So how about the instance themselves? Do they scale with patch to patch? or is a 25 Key in 8.0 the same as a 25 key in 8.3?
strong forum
They scale from patch to patch
Typically every major patch the mythic 0 dungeons difficulty will be increased by about 30%
At some point they increased the difficulty increase from 8% per keystone level to 10% per level ontop of that
sweet summit
its not [just] scaling that makes us do higher keys (dont look at corruptions)
affix changes, dungeon tuning, dungeon knowledge all help us do higher keys as the xpac goes on
the meta changing etc
rancid ember
Yeah I was hoping ^ this was kind of the case
More Skips found / snaps / strats etc. makes sense
strong forum
So a +25 in S1 is roughly the equivalent of a... +15? On 8.3 if not less
strong forum
I'm not even talking about double jump coding
I just mean the raw verticality they can get
modern brook
On the topic if m+ fuckery
You know the shroud trick for temple last boss?
If you have 2 rogues you can have the 2nd vanish and shroud as the first intermission ends and do it again
buoyant scroll
no snaps in sl?
novel ruin
No that we’ve found so far
rancid ember
I'm going to miss Awakened
buoyant scroll
did we find many anti kite or random aggro mobs?
civic rover
i got all timed 22s and decided im done lmao
still pagoda
i timed few 22s and burnout got me even despite finding a stable group(that died before i burned out completely)
so i'm raid logging only right now
strong forum
🧯
chilly brook
@still pagoda raid log is de way in last patch tbh
Unless you're me and you got beta
hollow bolt
im not even logging im just prepatch loggged
grand drum
Same for my guild group @still pagoda everyones burnt out and raidlogs
novel ruin
im getting my DK up to 465 for SL leveling. At 424 currently, just got declined to a +2 rofl
sweet summit
not meta what can i say 🤷♀️
sweet summit
shouldnt this crush go on the intercepter? 🤔
novel ruin
its weird doing WQs
sick sentinel
is it not possible to see outlines of an aoe, when there are height differences?
because my healer died first boss of king's rest, and he said he couldnt see the bosses' aoe because i tanked the boss close to the stairs
it was on a +24
novel ruin
sometimes z-axis can be weird on aoe abilities
sick sentinel
but was his death really my fault?
sick sentinel
exactly, but he really went on to me, said he was too busy healing
sweet summit
uhh why did you tank him on stairs tho?
sick sentinel
no just before the first step of the stairs
novel ruin
you dont really move him when you pull him intially and his first couple AOEs will be around the first steps
sick sentinel
healer stood fairly close to the gong, I guess it's usually safe there
sweet summit
oh so like kinda where he spawns?
sick sentinel
nah closer to the stairs than where he spawns
novel ruin
tank him where he spawns
sweet summit
weird but ok
sick sentinel
I wanted to be able to charge at people affected by the dot
novel ruin
people that need to be charged come to you
sick sentinel
well the other ranged didnt get killed by that aoe
healer was just too important to look at the ground where he stood I guess
sweet summit
anyway its a bit of both, you should not tank boss there but the healer should open his eyes too
sick sentinel
easy roles get lazy I suppose
novel ruin
if you didnt provide them a lot of room thats on you though
your boss positioning can make things easier or harder
in this situation it sounds like it made it much harder
which is on you to fix
for next time
Anyone that needs to be safeguarded should come into the bosses model
so you dont charge more than a step
sick sentinel
ok ill do that, but I had no idea z-axis differences make it look like he got killed by standing in nothing
ive seen something like it before in junkyard, on naeno and trixie spider platform
novel ruin
there are some spots where you can z-axis your eye
like cannonballs on last boss of Tol Dagor
novel ruin
Always be very careful with AOES around stairs
sweet summit
yeah, like eye cant hit you
novel ruin
any stairs
novel ruin
youll eventually move from there
sick sentinel
But still I feel like whenever KR fails, it's because healer screws something up first or third boss, or on zul:s
novel ruin
Ehh
sweet summit
ive falied more KRs to missed kicks than anything
novel ruin
its a compounding issue
sick sentinel
true I do move from there, but this was fairly early
or also if dh/hunter pet doesnt absorb any bleed and rng wont let me block a few
novel ruin
people are too quick in blaming others instead of thinking about what they could have done differently
sometimes the play depending on comp is to let a person die on 3rd boss and rez em
sick sentinel
but still, they take unneccessary risks to also do damage during first boss/butcher
novel ruin
if you are doing a 24 people should be good enough to not get hit by em
KR is a brutal key for everyone. Everything is dangerous, timer is tight and wiping up can mean a deplete
sick sentinel
It is, so it's extra silly to deplete on a heroic mechanic
novel ruin
heroic mechanic?
sick sentinel
spider obelisk adds in workshop, near third boss
it's not at all visible where they explode if they're on those stairs, yet nobody gets hit by them
novel ruin
What is your job as a tank?
sick sentinel
I cant rly defend someone who gets tricked by that on the KR boss aoe
to complete the dungeon within time, i'd say
novel ruin
no
Your job as the tank is to make it as easy as possible for everyone else to do their job.
You could have made that scenario a lot less likely to happen by having better boss positioning. That is on you.
sick sentinel
the healer shouldn't assume he was safe near the gongs, just because he's always safe there
expect anything, including admittable bad positioning
novel ruin
I'm not disagreeing
Point is by your decision making, you made a situation happen that had a higher potential of going poorly.
And it went poorly
Should the healer have ripped into you?
Of course not
Should the healer have gotten hit by the AOE? Of course not
But shit happens and all you can do is fix YOURSELF
and what you will do next time
sick sentinel
we were already in a pretty big disagreement the first pull, on discord tbh
a bad typhoon that guardian pull
novel ruin
PuG?
sick sentinel
yes
novel ruin
then learn and move on
sick sentinel
I mostly learn about psychological warfare, through pugging
but thats not a bad thing
like after the healer left, it was easy for me to point out to the dps, that the healer died from a very basic mechanic lul
sick sentinel
yeah obviously I made that happen, but the dps doesnt necessarily know that
novel ruin
If melee/tanks aren’t baiting away from the ranged stack, most of the ranged will get hit by the wings
sick sentinel
yeah very true, seen that happen quite a lot with pugs
novel ruin
Same thing with positioning bosses or adds
sweet summit
people are dumb, babysit them
steep bone
ppl just not git gud enough
sweet summit
how do i git gud
steep bone
any of you tried binding movement to RDFG to have more hotkeys available under left hand?
sweet summit
that sounds dangerous monkaW
sweet summit
my brain is smooth i cant think
steep bone
you've so many hotkeys available then, assuming not playing on mmo mouse
i still didn't get used to have shield block or ip on some button thats not on mouse so i can use it while clicking other stuff ;_;
sweet summit
i get it, but i dont know why youd need more keybinds
steep bone
probably just for pvp
novel ruin
shift, alt and control mods
steep bone
i hate alt modifer
novel ruin
im bad and only have shift mods plus mmo mouse
steep bone
i used to have alt f1-f2-f3...
novel ruin
yeah i have small hands and hate alt and control mods
steep bone
guess what i was pressing randomly sometimes XD
novel ruin
i do use f1-f5 depending on spec
novel ruin
not a bad idea
steep bone
because your pinky default position is on shift anyway
or caps depending how is your grip/hands/keyboard size
novel ruin
we have a clicker here guys
sweet summit
uhoh
onyx vessel
steep bone
onyx vessel
More like 8 but i do end up clicking half my shit
sweet summit
what
onyx vessel
Halp
sweet summit
no
steep bone
maybe i shud
onyx vessel
sweet summit
no
steep bone
im living healthy life, no drugs here
novel ruin
Why do you click?
Get clicking keyboard and get that same experience but its more surreal. Like going from Standard Def to HD TV
onyx vessel
novel ruin
onyx vessel
Ive tried but i would just end up clicking it so i gave up
Rotation wise i dont click for
The combo fucks me up tho
spice ocean
I still click for 2-3minute CDs, but that's mostly a relic of them being off the GCD so I could click them while pressing a rotational keybind at the same time
for everything else it's not hard. 1-6, q e r t f g, mouse 4 5, and middle mouse button, and then shift macros for all of them, gives you 30 keybinds
you don't need a fancy mouse or F buttons
sweet summit
Clicking is a felony i will report you to the police
sweet summit
Oh shit 🏃
novel ruin
Raise the shields!
novel ruin
Git Gud Clicker
hushed cobalt
For tree-dude in a 22 waycrest, would you tank til dead or kite over fire once?
sweet summit
Only reset when fire spawns on him
hushed cobalt
Highest I've tanked before was a 18 tyr and was very a-okay
novel ruin
Are you vers?
hushed cobalt
I could be
sweet summit
What are the affixes
novel ruin
Bolstering
hushed cobalt
Grievous
sweet summit
Youre an hour off
novel ruin
Close enough
sweet summit
Thats nearly 6am tho 🤔
novel ruin
Depends on your definition of nearly
sweet summit
Fair
sweet summit
hushed cobalt
But the maggots hurt
sweet summit
Oh yeah
novel ruin
everybody out in Courtyard
sweet summit
Reflect some
novel ruin
you go in
sweet summit
Yap
novel ruin
run to door but stay inside
sweet summit
With healer cds
sweet summit
Darkness and pray
hushed cobalt
Can you stoneform away the maggots inside?
novel ruin
no wonder you jumped higher than me
hushed cobalt
Race changing
novel ruin
it works on maggots cuz its a poison
hushed cobalt
Also first 20 or above i timed was ur21 last night with a random 5.2k mage
hushed cobalt
ooooo yes
novel ruin
i wanted to get 5k
sweet summit
Mages make the key feel like 2 levels lower uts dumb
novel ruin
then during Push week i became tilted a couple nights and havent pushed since really besides a couple +25 guild keys i dpsed
sweet summit
Not bad
novel ruin
besides that ive only raid logged lol
novel ruin
ive got somewhere between 1.5-2mil gold which should be enough going into SL
sweet summit
Yeah
hushed cobalt
mage and boom were randos; pally/druid are guildies
cant bench pally cause wog wog wog
druid is getting more use to me running vers
novel ruin
and ill prob focus super hard on selling keys the first few months
Especially if alts are ez to get to pace,
sweet summit
Yeah cant wait. M+ boosting is like 25k atm
hushed cobalt
i want to boost 😦
sweet summit
So low ):
hushed cobalt
i have no want for gold but it would be something to do
sweet summit
Join a community
novel ruin
he massive
novel ruin
dontcha have to be a certain IO?
hushed cobalt
sadly im the lowly NA
sweet summit
2.5k for 15s i think?
hushed cobalt
with a rooster in my bags 😉
novel ruin
You can get all 20s ez
sweet summit
I believe
hushed cobalt
vers build is super dumb
novel ruin
I have a 23 something you can burn
sweet summit
Dont say vers out loud youll wake up the haters
hushed cobalt
the difference from TD7 to vers for damage is not as big as i thought
hushed cobalt
shreeeess in vers
sweet summit
Large
novel ruin
It’s like 20-25k dps overall depending on key
hushed cobalt
i was thinking vers would be like 30-40k, but then again my maffs not best
novel ruin
Each level of TD adds about 2-3.5k dps over full vers depending on key level/dungeon
sweet summit
Im bad at math but i trust
novel ruin
So in that UR you did 62k with vers
hushed cobalt
i tried vers on a junk19 once, and sorely missed doing 110k overall
novel ruin
Would have been more like 80-85k with your TD7
sweet summit
Sec i have a UR log with TD7 i think
hushed cobalt
the mage pulled some things and i was like o shit ok lets go?
novel ruin
It’s my raid build
hushed cobalt
like the 4pack right at the beginning mage timewarped
hushed cobalt
the ticks hurt 😮
novel ruin
Pray
hushed cobalt
but IT proc and avatar keeps them in their place
novel ruin
And you still die
hushed cobalt
that dot
i prot m+ and raid arms; but when i can m+ as arms thats a spicy meatball
hushed cobalt
easy living
novel ruin
Conduction 1 shots through DR
novel ruin
Even Tol Dagor last boss explosive barrel almost one shots me on a 25
sweet summit
Or youll do 3rd boss before 2nd boss thats kinda hmmm
hushed cobalt
temple.... did first 18 key my group did was temple on fort and people died to conduction and the shield 😐
novel ruin
Conduction damage comes from yourself
So vers increases it
And avoidance doesn’t work on it
sweet summit
Kinda just pop a defensive and/or get an external
novel ruin
Or just die
sweet summit
Thats my favourite option
onyx vessel
My guild is telling ppl to get avoidance corruption atleast one for drest
sweet summit
What
hollow totem
lol
novel ruin
My favorite thing as a tank is when people die to swarmer or the blobs explosion and I solo the pack while everyone else runs back
sweet summit
Yep
onyx vessel
I pointed out my death cuz inwas the 1st one to die
hushed cobalt
i wish i could trade in my arms gear socket for prot
scratches neck got any more of that vers??
onyx vessel
Got hit by tenecle while eating my eye and thing
sweet summit
Fuck visions all my homies hate visions
onyx vessel
Guy who died 2nd died to 2 hits
Im like look at that
Then i got in shit for eating eyes too much
hushed cobalt
i cant even drag guildies through visions because no one wants a carry
sweet summit
Gone soon poggers
onyx vessel
Moving outta corruption
I remember raden prog
24 stacks of eye
Wait what ded
150k a tick
sweet summit
One heal mr priest, thats all i ask for
onyx vessel
Normally as fury if you got something to hit eye does nothing
But 24 stacks
That shit hurt
The slow is what i really want gone
Time to kite a bit 60% slow for 10 seconds
Leap on cd
Eye and thing are basically w.e unless really unlucky
onyx vessel
Avatar removes slows
hushed cobalt
thought it was just roots
onyx vessel
Removes the slow too
hushed cobalt
me big dumb
onyx vessel
You just dont notice
You wont sit on avatar for slows/roots as prot so its not something you would notice
sweet summit
Do gnomes use the gnome toy 🤔
hushed cobalt
muh 1% haste
onyx vessel
More like 2-3
novel ruin
I play an imaginary vulpera disguised as a human
hushed cobalt
activate avatar "rarrr!"
battle shout "rarrr!"
sweet summit
I will never forgive the americans for creating vulperas
novel ruin
Good thing we don’t care about the EU gamers 😛
sweet summit
Sadge
novel ruin
Otherwise we would release raid at the same time
undone sun
hmmm
chilly brook
No meme Vulpera were a mistake
sweet summit
👀
civic rover
i wish every tank could be a panda
being a panda and making your details name fatass is why I play wow
spring lodge
I'll never forgive Europeans for creating America...
orchid frigate
thinking of getting one of them mmo mouses. any suggestions?
pref wireless
logitech g600 looks nice
g604 even better
alpine stone
I don't know about wireless options but I have found the button layout of my steel series rival 500 way more than say a naga personally. Especially if you plan on playing the occasional fps or something.
orchid frigate
ah nice
tried a corsair scimitar and the buttons feel a bit small for my thumb so maybe rival has better buttons for me
steep bone
@orchid frigate Definately NOT razer ones. Lemme introduce you why. Internet is full of pissed people buying nagas and those new ones and whining that tier left click or side buttons aren't working as they supposed to as in double click, not responsing at all etc. Personally I had like 4 of them and every broke in the same way: cursor been crazy, few buttons from side panel wasn't responsing and left click was double clicking or not clicking at all.
Okay so after this let me propose you getting either Corsair Scimitar or Logitech G600, both are good. Corsair disatvantage is that side panel is placed pretty close to the ground so your thumb might slide on it, it is also quite low profile so your hand will touch mousepad most of the times it's still hella good mouse, got mine for like 4 years with no issues at all. My friends who are using Logitech G600 prefer different grip on mouse and also it has thumbgrid a bit higher so you're not touching mousepad with your thumb.
tl;dr get logitech g600 or corsair scimitar, stay away from razer
orchid frigate
alright thanks!
ionic fern
0 issues with my naga.
orchid frigate
you guys who have a mmo mouse, have you gone full rotational on mouse buttons or is it a bit mix and match?
novel ruin
I’m full rotational on mouse buttons besides CDs or 30sec + abilities.
orchid frigate
okok
hoary sand
why go full mouse rotation when you have 2 buttons to press
im mostly using mine for cds
novel ruin
I have lots more than 2 buttons but okay 🙂
iron skiff
trying to up my survivability but which is better over all surging vitality 3 or stacking a couple vers2s? my vers is lower then id like right now and while surging is a bigger % boost, im worried about overall uptime on it. in order to do any of it im going to have to drop from TD5 to TD3 but that shouldnt be a huge drop in dps at least from a sim perspective. Any opinions on the survivabiility boost on those corruptions?
novel ruin
Trying to up your survivability in what content?
novel ruin
You shouldn’t really need any vers for that level of content.
We don’t really recommend people to start focusing on vers until around 24 keys. At least a full set. And you don’t need vers at all in mythic raid.
Focus on learning the dungeons better and your general play.
If you would like, record a video of a dungeon then send it to me and we can go over it.
iron skiff
my concern is i seem to be taking fairly large spikes of unpredicatble damage. I know my rotation is a bit of the issue and working on getting that a bit cleaner but im really at a loss as to why i seem to be taking a huge jump in damage, esp compared to the prot pally we have in our group who has stacked a large amount of vers. really not sure where to change things up to improve it and make it easier on my healers
novel ruin
Record yourself doing a dungeon.
If you are decently geared, you really shouldn’t be taking many spikes of damage as a Prot warrior in a 15
Vers is gonna make that issue go away but that’s the wrong way of going about it. Figure out what’s going wrong NOW rather than use the vers setup that’s akin to throwing your tanking under the bed and hiding the problems.
Especially since corruption is going away in like 3ish weeks
@iron skiff I do free coaching. Record a video and we will go over it together so you can see exactly where you are making mistakes and what to do going forward.
iron skiff
ok - whats the best way to record it? just through discord or another way? relatively new to the high end gaming in wow only returned like 5 months ago
novel ruin
You can use Xbox game bar (make sure to set it to an hour or two of recording rather than the 30minutes it starts as) or download OBS and record with that. Upload the file to YouTube.
iron skiff
Thanks ill get set up to run that and record the next dungeon or 2 I run.
Thanks!
rancid ember
Looks like a wave of keys went out. Me and 3 friends all just got check yo e-mails
rancid ember
lmao beat
crisp dragon
Didn't know you had to "opt" in, have now, probably wont ever get in, but you can only hope
novel ruin
You can download PTR and try out the changes
crisp dragon
Already have, for me it's mostly to find the fastest way of lvling
novel ruin
You have to do the main quests in every zone regardless of level
That plus a couple dungeons will be more than enough to get to you 60
knotty fiber
Should I use a 465 chest with deafening crash/bastion over a 480 with iron fortress/brace for impact? Mostly for mythic raiding or 15-20 keys
novel ruin
Can you get deafening elsewhere?
knotty fiber
yeah I have one on my helm
chilly brook
@orchid frigate g600 is highly recommended from me
Only wireless option that I know of that's similar is razer
wooden radish
@exotic spoke https://imgur.com/fmRNBn2
exotic spoke
wary beacon
Which keys r recommend for this week affix?
lyric pewter
I have a really embarassing question/confession....
novel ruin
@wary beacon any that you can do
lyric pewter
I got back to my prot warrior and am catching up with the invasion quests. currently doing the invasion in Pandaria... and I just die ALL the time...
like have I just forgotten how to play Prot or is it normal to die all the time when soloing??
novel ruin
you shouldnt really be dying as a tank
novel ruin
you are prob playing wrong
lyric pewter
i just seem to take SO MUCH damage from the Thing from beyond and the eye thing that spawns as part of the corruption.... and no healing obviously either
sweet summit
spell reflect/walk out of eye
novel ruin
lower corruption
sweet summit
spell reflect/stun/fear tfb
novel ruin
i would honestly just go below 40 until you get your bearings
knotty fiber
If you're 438 you probably don't even have heart of darkness and shouldn't be worried about corruption anyway
novel ruin
Dying is going to slow you down way more than doing a couple k less dps to things
lyric pewter
i havent unlocked the thing that allows you to lower corruption yet 😦
novel ruin
then go to lower ilvl pieces
if you arent comfortable dealing with thing and eye, lower corruption. Again, dying is going to increase the time you spend on things way more than taking 15 seconds more killing a mob
lyric pewter
how do you guys self heal in fights?
novel ruin
you dont really
Make sure you are using Shield Block to block physical damage
and fill with Ignore Pain
main vault
Does anyone remember the name of that meme site from 1-1.5 years ago that had the spec guides that were supposedly for "fun"?
And "anti elitist"?
sweet summit
noxxic?
sweet summit
wow meta?
main vault
And they made a post on r/wow and AMR jumped in the defend them
Is that what it was called?
strong forum
shush
main vault
no but srsly