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graceful jolt
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how do you have so much leech?

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I have 1% leech

ionic fern
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Because i'm memeing and buying leech corruptions.

graceful jolt
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lol

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seems like a ton of self healing

ionic fern
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If i use all my Leech i'm at like..37% iirc.

graceful jolt
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geez

ionic fern
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And Siphoner 3 is coming on sale so i can get moooore.

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But it's all in just good laughs for the end of the expansion.

graceful jolt
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seems like UF sims the highest, slightly above lifespeed

brittle owl
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@ionic fern you think all that leech will bring your hair back?

undone sun
steep bone
ionic fern
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Arms

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Smh

steep bone
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wdym

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arms is cool, i feel like dh

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just less braindead

ionic fern
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Can you avoid every other mechanic tho?

steep bone
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Nah i religiously eat every avoidable mechanic as im looking at action bars like pepega (imagine having muscle memory for something pepsihands )

ionic fern
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Good - let the healer parse.

steep bone
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8.20% leech as arms greenbear

grand drum
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VoP GS arms

sweet summit
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Arm greenbear

steep bone
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wdym, ive legit no clue how to arms, just feelycrafted it weird

ionic fern
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πŸ‘

steep bone
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@sweet summit I tried furry but no crit makes me do negative damage

ionic fern
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Have you tried Fury tho?

sweet summit
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Get more crit then

steep bone
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and max crit i could get was like 35% 😦

sweet summit
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No scale?

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Gale force on weapon pls

steep bone
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nah, 445 πŸ˜’

sweet summit
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Vision minor πŸ‘€

steep bone
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according to rio its bote, iris, botd, lucid

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i dont have bote so i got vop instead lmao

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probs conflict would been better

sweet summit
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CnS/Void

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Yeah

steep bone
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lets see how pepega i sim

undone sun
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πŸ“‰

sweet summit
sweet summit
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Sim rend or FoB :)

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Massacre doesnt perform that well in 5 min encounters i think

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Or 4

steep bone
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sec i actually

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have mechagon trinket with 1.2k haste proc

sweet summit
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Overclock is bad

steep bone
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i actualy need dragonscale dont i

sweet summit
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Youd want recal

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Or scale

steep bone
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wait whats recal

sweet summit
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Or coral

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Redcard from hardmode king mechagon

steep bone
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kekw

sweet summit
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Subroutine: Recalibration

steep bone
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Oh

sweet summit
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Oh thats scuffed lol

steep bone
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and rend sims better too ;__;

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but thats pure st

sweet summit
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Ye

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Youd run FoB in m+

steep bone
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aye

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and i assume that crit mast legs gonna be better m+ wise

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or actually my crafted crit vers since socket so extra haste

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πŸ€”

sweet summit
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Haste>=mast>crit>vers

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So anything with haste is good

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Ideally haste/mast

steep bone
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are you trying to tell me that haste/vers 465 gonna be better

sweet summit
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Probably

steep bone
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;_; i dont have HoD then

sweet summit
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Haste is insane

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Oh prob not then

steep bone
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unlessi take off botd

sweet summit
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Idk tbh

steep bone
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but lucid major for m+ feels weird

sweet summit
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Yeah

steep bone
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gonna deplete someone's tol dagor lulw

inland silo
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without expedient

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think lucid is required

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bote isnt an option really

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with bote youd get like a 6k ToM

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bote -> BS

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sick damage

steep bone
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i was getting almost 8k strenght from tom

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;o

sweet summit
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Play fury
Ez clap

steep bone
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but my furry sims like 72k 😭

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and apart from sim it does no damagi

sweet summit
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Sounds like you problem yep

crude pond
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If I'm stacking vers with versatiles, should vers/crit be better than haste/mast?

ionic fern
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Yes. πŸ€”

crude pond
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Thanks. How about vers/haste VS vers/mast, the latter having more vers?

sweet summit
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Haste vers imo

steep bone
obtuse yoke
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watch out guys we have a big dick io player

sweet summit
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What

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I did some stalking

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Am now im confused

steep bone
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what

distant crystal
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damn didn't know ppl were already at 12K io

sweet summit
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4Γ—2=8
Lads 2.5k

steep bone
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asians probably will get there by end of this xpac yep

sweet summit
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Oh nvm

steep bone
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thats 2k

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not 2x

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xD

sweet summit
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4+2=6

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But yeah

steep bone
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i mean his main was closing to 6k

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yet he didnt know he can kick bobby without breaking his shield first

distant crystal
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oh that's a k

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i thought it was an x

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lol

sweet summit
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Healer main i see

steep bone
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then he went completly apeshit on me, calling retarded etc etc

sweet summit
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Yeah

steep bone
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i think i did hurt his elitist rio brain

sweet summit
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Oh well

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Unlucky

steep bone
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ye

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guess my arms adventures ends in that td

sweet summit
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Sadge

steep bone
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but actually with lucid major ive gotten like 14k+ strenght from ToM

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was kekw

crude pond
steep bone
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ish

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haste vers is for defensive

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haste crit is for damage

sweet summit
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Haste crit is defensive in m+

steep bone
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wait

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what

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and why its not placing strenght which is ilvl over those

sweet summit
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The icy veins is from a defensive playstyle PoV

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Imean more stats>"better stats" still stand

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Crit=parry, parry adds up to a lot of mitigaion in a dungeon where you have a lot of mobs attacking you all the time

brittle owl
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ilvl isn't just strength

crude pond
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and why its not placing strenght which is ilvl over those
@steep bone maybe because strength increases more than secondary stats, per ilvl

sweet summit
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Vers doesnt do a lot on its own

brittle owl
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ilvl is "more stats"

sweet summit
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Scales very slow

steep bone
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im the pleb now

sweet summit
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Welcome to the dumb kids club 😎

storm fulcrum
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The priority list probably changes depending on the content you are doing

brittle owl
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not that much

sweet summit
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A bit, yeah

crude pond
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Should there be any problem in mythic raid with haste/crit?

brittle owl
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the principles remain the same

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you can run

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literally

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whatever in raid

steep bone
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i like that part of pwar (dunno about other tanks) where i just equip whatever is higher ilvl and im fiiine

crude pond
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even in mythic?

storm fulcrum
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If you do very high M+ I think you don't use that list, if you do medium or low M+ you go for damage, if you go for raid you go for bigger damage and if you do world content you go naked for roleplay πŸ™‚

brittle owl
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it's the same with all tanks in bfa

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yes mins

sweet summit
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Yes, even mythic

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Tank damage is a yoke

steep bone
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they gonna tell you that you need vers for mythic

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i mean

sweet summit
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Maybe on ilgy yoyll take damage from the beam

steep bone
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plebs gonna do that

brittle owl
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everything dangerous in raid

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is giga telegraphed

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the only boss that somewhat makes you think a bit about shit is raden

mellow patio
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Let me introduce you to vdh

steep bone
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vexiona if not dispelled yep

crude pond
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but it's managable with good skill usage, right?

brittle owl
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that's a healer mechanic

crude pond
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yeah with that too

brittle owl
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don't overthink it

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raid tanking is very basic

storm fulcrum
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mythic raid don't hurt at all, I pepega it without knowing the mechanics and I don't die ever.

brittle owl
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and it's very late in the tier

steep bone
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at this point nothing in this raid deal damage besides ilgy, raden

brittle owl
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not even ilgy lmao

steep bone
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second beam still hurts

brittle owl
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just SR second beam and that's enough i think

steep bone
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but it just puts me at like half-ish hp

brittle owl
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so

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?

storm fulcrum
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well skittrah hurts... when you get super high stacks and your brother comes to /hug you πŸ™‚

brittle owl
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you tankswap after second, so even if you are at 2% hp, that's giga fine

steep bone
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aye

brittle owl
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skitra isnt even a boss fam

steep bone
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but second beam still hurts dmg wise

crude pond
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I just bought r3 versatiles after I did pins , now I want full refunds of those πŸ˜‚

distant crystal
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for some reason i was dicking around with essences earlier and had lucid major picked

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then did a 19 ML without pressing major once

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thought i had VOP

steep bone
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i mean r3 versa is nice if you're gonna do higher keys

distant crystal
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lol

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68K dps with a dead major slot

storm fulcrum
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Well Lucid major doesn't do that much for your survival in this key lvl, it's just an on demand dmg pump for large pulls

steep bone
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thats why im pepegaing with conflict major weird

brittle owl
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lucid is a dmg pump peepostudy

steep bone
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did someone say anima major? greenbear

brittle owl
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here i thought people were using it for 40sec of avatar

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guess i was wrong peepostudy

storm fulcrum
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But a ML22 tyra without using lucid on 3rd boss (without playing versa) hurts, or a WS in that lvl too if you get giga zapped

distant crystal
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i grinded a bunch of vers3's this week on my brew & bear

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warrior remains giga crit/haste

storm fulcrum
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I think warrior can remain haste crit TD till most keys on 23-24's safely, then above that versa helps, esp. in a pug without cc/kick management

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On the other hand versa doesn't look that bad tbh, you do big damage still, a bit less than TD but it's consistent and it's tied to you pressing buttons, not to you being rng lucky, and you don't take damage either way

limpid pawn
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21 and above, versa can be very nice

steep bone
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my first 23 was with like half versa and it was more than fine

storm fulcrum
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It depends on the dungeon really, I'm feeling giga fine in tyranical 22s without any versa anywhere except (fortified) Zul, ML 3rd and WS last

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especially if you have 1-2x ineffable and play haste, you have 100% block uptime so physical dmg is a joke

steep bone
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you can't have 100% block uptime / or i have not enough haste lulw

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its high but not 100%

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btu still dmg is a joke in those keys

ionic fern
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and why its not placing strenght which is ilvl over those
@steep bone smh, read the text below the stat priority

distant crystal
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imagine reading the guide when i could just say wrong things in here instead

sweet summit
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TRUE

steep bone
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imagine replying to screenshot that doesn't have that text below stat priority

ionic fern
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Tbh - majority of people go to guides and see these nice "rankings" or "tier lists" or w/e and don't bother reading anything else

sweet summit
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Aye, got my pally to 120 like on sunday

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First thing i did

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Was look at the "rankings" of stats, essences and traits

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So i am pro pala now

ionic fern
crude pond
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lol

ionic fern
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Can't blame them tho - who wants to read some boring chit-chat about why x stat is better than y stat. Pepexecute

sweet summit
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I dont get it
You didnt change anything

steep bone
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but

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you can just go to rio and copy what first page of warriors is using

onyx vessel
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Some ppl want the written guide

undone sun
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πŸ†—

arctic python
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How much corruption do you guys play with in 24's?

onyx vessel
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Vers stack 2 ineffables rank 1 fill rest with vers amps

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Go over 40 corruption cuz thing does 0 dmg

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πŸ‘

arctic python
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Yeah the same, it run a surging vita as well tho

onyx vessel
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No idea

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Running vers3x7 and 2 it1s next week the cape is at 116 so with essence 38 corruption

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Finally not super slow and massive eye circles

mellow patio
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Daily reminder that vers is for nerds

steep bone
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being fluffy pillow feelsgood

onyx vessel
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Getting carried by td trash

mellow patio
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The day of exposure is near

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🍿

onyx vessel
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Next week affixs = huge fucking ape pulls

mellow patio
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Pull like ape every week

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Ignore affixes

distant crystal
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hell yeah so many parries with all my crit

steep bone
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Pull like ape every week
@mellow patio [2]

distant crystal
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and so many TD hits with all dat haste

mellow patio
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Hell yeah brother

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Also ran a JY on my bear and the adds in trixie and naeno room stack necrotic like a mf lmao

onyx vessel
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Fuck nercotic

steep bone
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just kill mobs before you become unhealable

onyx vessel
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Teeming tho

steep bone
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ez clapp

onyx vessel
mystic trellis
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πŸ‘

distant crystal
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just press stoneform

mellow patio
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Run with 4 paladins

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Profit

distant crystal
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the best part of playing dwarf is saying "Why?" when your healer says you should kite

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while pressing stoneform

mellow patio
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Had a healer try to tell me to kite as bear today

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Rather than why

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I asked

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β€œHow”

steep bone
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β™Ώ

ionic fern
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One time i'm happy to play Resto Shaman is during Necrotic weeks.

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πŸ‘€

mellow patio
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Resto shaman is so fun

ionic fern
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50 Necrotic stacks?
Lul, SLT

sweet summit
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Why do healers keep healing me when im above 50 stacks

onyx vessel
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Cuz they are idiots

mellow patio
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Nothing more helpless than being a dh at 50 stacks

onyx vessel
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I tell me healer stop healing me and dps

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Ima die

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Does 10k

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As druid

mellow patio
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β€œIf you heal me i will die” is my classic statement

steep bone
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reactive druid healing

mellow patio
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Kill mobs before they kill me

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Because I refuse to kite

sweet summit
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Mood

onyx vessel
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Just leap and spam hthrow

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Td could proc

sweet summit
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Hawgz you are my spirit animal

onyx vessel
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And big dam

mellow patio
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How will my td hit from so far away man

onyx vessel
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Get a monk healer

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Ez ring

mellow patio
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Kiting is for

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You guessed it

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Nerds

onyx vessel
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Had a tank who died so quick

sweet summit
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Probably me lol

onyx vessel
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It was a 12 so i just fury tanked half the time

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πŸ‘

ionic fern
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There are so many wild tanks in PuG's it's unbelievable.
The times i've seen a warrior not using SB but spamming IP is beyond my comprehension.

mellow patio
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Mwahi

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They have to heal more

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Leave them alone

onyx vessel
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Mwahi is just boi the prot big brain here is how to play prot warrior

ionic fern
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It would be fine - but after they die due to pulling big and spamming IP it's time to play #BlameTheHealer

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And i'm sitting there on my resto shaman thinking.."What the ..."

onyx vessel
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I love when dumb ppl are like ip will protect you

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100k shield

mellow patio
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Excuse me it shows up on the healing meter so it must be good

onyx vessel
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Aint gonna save shit

ionic fern
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Next time i'm gonna PuG a key i'm gonna name it "Must know how to use Shield Block".

steep bone
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i mean ive been getting like 50+ stacks without dropping on hp, just rotate cds kekw

mellow patio
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You should play vdh lmao

onyx vessel
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Do pug prot warrior not use sb?

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πŸ€”

mellow patio
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Never felt so helpless in my life at 50 stacks

steep bone
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they use IP

ionic fern
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No they do not.

onyx vessel
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WTF

mellow patio
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Pug prot warriors are the worst/best

steep bone
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ignore pain 'heals'

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shield block doesnt

onyx vessel
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Shield block plus ip

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Big dick mitgation

mellow patio
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Blame mwahi he probably tells them they don’t heal enough

sweet summit
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He cant heal, so they have to do it for him ZOOMEReyes

steep bone
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anyone wanna do some pepega keys? peepoHappy

ionic fern
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I don't bother giving advice to people in game.
Last time i tried to help a prot warrior he yelled at me and told me that i know nothing about tanking.

onyx vessel
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I guess hes got a blue name in skyhold

undone sun
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lmao

onyx vessel
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Pretty sure mwahi knows wayyy too much about prot warrior tanking

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But ppl are hopeless

mellow patio
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Mwahi were you healing him

onyx vessel
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Some*

ionic fern
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Idk, they just refuse to use SB for w/e reason.

steep bone
ionic fern
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Ofc i was healing him.
He was yo-yo'ing like a damn BDK.

mellow patio
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Healers don’t know how to tank...

onyx vessel
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Half the dungeons you can snake like 5m spell reflect dmg

ionic fern
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My resto shaman mastery was working overtime the whole dungeon.

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πŸ˜‚

sweet summit
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πŸ˜‚

distant crystal
mellow patio
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I did not approve the release of my likeness

sweet summit
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Fem :)

onyx vessel
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Shit i do that in full vers

mellow patio
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yells from back

onyx vessel
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Its called make the healer pay attention

mellow patio
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Vers is for nerds

onyx vessel
ionic fern
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I wish before you could play DPS/Healer you would be forced to play a tank.

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World would be a much better place.

mellow patio
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I can agree with that

distant crystal
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idk man i kinda feel the opposite

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ppl who play tank after playing melee a lot

mellow patio
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You should have to tank well*

sweet summit
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And vice versa

onyx vessel
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Tank players sad bois who cry themselves to sleep

distant crystal
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positioning things to make life easy for your dps

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πŸ‘¨β€β€οΈβ€πŸ’‹β€πŸ‘¨

mellow patio
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Excuse me

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Why would I ever do anything for another group members benefit

onyx vessel
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Healers dps blame everyone else

ionic fern
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I position things to make MY life easier for padding. Pepexecute
DPS are there just to fill the group numbers.

mellow patio
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Exactly

distant crystal
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i play every role so i can blame anybody but myself

mellow patio
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I will not heal

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Mainly because my brain doesn’t function well enough

ionic fern
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I like healing as a role.
But i don't like healing random PuG tanks. πŸ˜’

onyx vessel
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When im dpsing for my guildies tanks

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Im pulling shit for em

mellow patio
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I have a firm you pull it you tank it rule

ionic fern
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That would be a insta kick from me.

onyx vessel
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Tank has 1 mob

mellow patio
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I will throw any run

ionic fern
onyx vessel
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Pulls pack

distant crystal
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look the only time i'm gonna pull for you is if i fonted 18 seconds ago and you still haven't pulled

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it's out of my hands at that point

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hopefully i can finish busting and iceblock before the mobs reach me

mellow patio
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If I see someone pull my hands are off keyboard

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/sit

ionic fern
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You play a bear..your hands are off the keyboard anyways.

onyx vessel
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Eh they get annoyed but fuck 1 mob

mellow patio
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Excuse me I am a Swiss Army knife

ionic fern
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I'm sorry, that was mean. πŸ˜‚

mellow patio
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I play all characters

distant crystal
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mtn dew bear

mellow patio
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Except paladin

onyx vessel
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When im tankibg while my guilds disc priest is shadow hes pulling everything for me

mellow patio
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I won’t play a paladin

distant crystal
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mtn dew: code red bear

onyx vessel
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Its like if it wasnt me they would be pissed

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Back to work

steep bone
mellow patio
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Why you dyin bud

steep bone
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cuz i didnt marrow

mellow patio
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Ya hate to see that

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Leveling a dk for SL I see πŸ‘€

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5 stacks of hemostasis tho where the death strike

steep bone
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i have legit no idea what im doing

mellow patio
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I respect that

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That’s the dk special... just whack stuff until you get bonestorm

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Then whack stuff and heal big

steep bone
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Oh no no, i just have no clue how to runic power management xD

uneven cliff
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If I'm looking for trinkets should i be looting as arms of fury?

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or*

steep bone
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doesn't matter they both drop same dps trinkets

mellow patio
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Pool runic power until big hit

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Don’t play like prot or will be thirsty whole time pepsihands

steep bone
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are you tryin to tell me that i cannot button smash and heart strike?

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and that i shouldn't use abilities 24/7?

mellow patio
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Empty globals feels bad

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I know

steep bone
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this class suck ngl

mellow patio
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It’s better once you figure it out

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By far the worst when you are learning lmao

steep bone
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not pressing buttons 24/7

uneven cliff
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lol your just waiting for something to hit you really hard pretty much.

mellow patio
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And when it does you begin up ping pong

uneven cliff
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blood boil pretty much keeps aggro and death and decay keeps them all balled up

steep bone
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so im basically not using death strike for dps

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;_;

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just for when i get hit

uneven cliff
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yeah death strike is reacting to damage

mellow patio
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Use it if you’re going to over cap runic power

steep bone
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and how do i start pack?

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cuz first hit is like poof 50% hp gone

mellow patio
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Marrow rend

steep bone
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so far i did rune weapon into marrow

mellow patio
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Can open with vamp blood

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Life gets easier when you have bloodworms

uneven cliff
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^

steep bone
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Oh ye im just 70lvl rn

mellow patio
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Bloodworms give you a boost when you get below 50

steep bone
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ok it feels better now ;o

mellow patio
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You can also talent into blood drinker and use that on pull

steep bone
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ive drinker ye

mellow patio
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Yeah at low lvl bdk feels rough at times

steep bone
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Oh yee it feels way better now when i pool xD

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thanks ,3

mellow patio
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Got u

steep bone
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@mellow patio i assume that D&D only with proc?

sweet summit
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For dungeons take heartbreaker, and i think youd kinda want to open with DnD so u get big RP fast

steep bone
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good point

sweet summit
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Try to exit a pull with a fresh boneshield and some rp too

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Idk, i might be saying dumb shit just go ask bdk disc

steep bone
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I mean part with shield for next pull sounds like 200IQ

mellow patio
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Definitely use heartbreaker in later content

steep bone
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tbh blooddrinker heals for nothing atm

sweet summit
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I think its just decent st damage

mellow patio
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Just can help you get some health on pull at low levels is all

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But if you go into a pull with rp

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Ez clap

naive barn
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same ilvl

steep bone
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bom

honest plinth
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why would you pick BoI btw?

sweet summit
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Take vamp seed or Pepexecute

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BoM is insane mastery with avatar, you have avatar for every pull, insane mastery=big dam and big crit blocks, big crit blocks=barely no damage taken, big dam=you can afk in dazar alor earlier

naive barn
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i have 3x BoM πŸ˜„

sweet summit
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Nice

strong forum
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Good

steep bone
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my dk learned mastery wooo

sweet summit
steep bone
steep bone
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I've been running without weap enchant greenbear

sweet summit
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Bruh moment

steep bone
sick sentinel
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i can't think of any examples immediately, but god damn this true for wow for me

steep bone
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Dunno, King mechagon hardmode cheese? Or it still didnt get patched

honest plinth
#

snappings

steep bone
#

it's not bug, it's feature

honest plinth
#

i mean its legal exploit

#

they are just too lazy to fix it

sick sentinel
#

i still find yazma really tough fight

sweet summit
#

its one of those fights where if you entire group does not know what to do its hard as shit, but if they do know it, its easy as shit

#

you, as a tank, should be able to get all. if you cant, let ranged know before it starts casting

#

skewer is the "tank buster mechanic" of that fight

sick sentinel
#

does it actually kill though? i can't recall ever dying to that

sweet summit
#

if you have block up, and is facing her

#

it does not do damage

#

well, it does, but you dont feel it

strong forum
#

Tanks that don't block actually take dmg from that

#

Not alot until high keys, but still

#

You notice that mechanic existing on other tanks a bit

#

Same as literal "tankbuster" junkyard last boss

ionic fern
#

Or KR last boss.

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πŸ‘€

strong forum
#

If you run out of block charges cuz you haven't been paying attention to his mechanic

sweet summit
#

laughs in vers

summer lotus
#

did it twice at least last night. always with the interupts i think the skewer is the interupt and i use it and then nobody gets next one and we die.
@sick sentinel do you have different colors for interruptable/uninterruptable spells? should never be a issue with that

pliant geyser
#

hey does choosing prot increase chances for haste+vers stat gear

#

from your weekly chest

vocal skiff
#

it doesn't

pliant geyser
#

so in that case should we not choose prot

junior horizon
pliant geyser
#

or i guess i do need a 475 shield

vocal skiff
#

if you need the shield, keep it prot yeah

sick sentinel
novel ruin
#

If you are vers stacking, @junior horizon 475

vocal skiff
#

That said, I got bracers with haste/mastery with TD3, so late in the game rip

junior horizon
#

if not, i should go with the 465 until i get another replacement ineffible? @novel ruin

sick sentinel
#

i got a td1 in my bags

#

if i decide to use that new one

#

i'll sim it soon

novel ruin
#

You could. 10ilvls for dropping an IT. I would think the IT and higher haste would win out but it’s small either way

junior horizon
#

thanks

novel ruin
#

@sick sentinel the td2 will be higher damage

#

Besides for long st fights

vocal skiff
#

what's the current cap of corruption resistance

sweet summit
#

EU or NA

vocal skiff
#

NA

sweet summit
#

116

vocal skiff
#

Is that with the essence or not

sweet summit
#

resistance on cloak

vocal skiff
#

Ah okay

wise fulcrum
#

I'm seeing some conflicting stuff online, am I safe to cleanse a 475 item from today's weekly chest and apply a contaminant to it?

vocal skiff
#

yes

wise fulcrum
#

cool thanks

naive barn
#

Crossing fingers that I don't get another 475 ring this week.... I mean... Rampage Rampage

distant crystal
#

i got 65g from my box

sweet summit
#

nice

warm plinth
#

Nice

obsidian pier
distant crystal
#

it's big pog for ST dps

#

what was your old weapon

obsidian pier
#

this one, which actually has decent stats. i wasn't sure about the other one cuz it doesn't have haste or vers

cinder fern
#

10 higher ilvl though, which is the biggest of stats.

#

On weapon and shield, anyways.

obsidian pier
#

ahhh true πŸ˜… i'm still very new to prot warrior

distant crystal
#

yeah 465 might be slightly better defensive but splitter should be more dps in most situations

obsidian pier
#

neat! thanks for the help!

covert spear
#

Is there a rule of thumb when it comes to bastion of might traits. I have 465 pieces with and a 480 without. Say if i roll another 480 without, is ilevel king or is there a breakpoint?

sweet summit
#

ilvl>bom

covert spear
#

Ty

sweet summit
#

there are some exeptions tho

grand drum
#

the only trait you sac 15 ilvls for is 1 deafening crash

sweet summit
#

like a 480 head with no BoM vs HC nzoth head for example

covert spear
#

Oh interesting

#

Thank you for the info

nova rune
#

Is having 7 TD alright for 19's lmao

sweet summit
#

yeah

#

you might want to look into IT1

#

and get two of those

#

IT1 owns hard

nova rune
#

Yeah I got two of those

sweet summit
#

epic mate

nova rune
#

ill swap them in

#

ty!

distant crystal
#

i run IT1x2

#

TD6

sweet summit
#

i run IT1x2+TD5 cos im a pussy

distant crystal
#

should be able to squeeze in another TD rank soon

#

i got murdered by triple thing from beyond in junkyard last night lol

nova rune
#

Think I can only do like 3x td 2's and then 2 IF

#

that might be better though

shadow bay
#

yo what would u rather put on

#

or that

#

50 vers socket as well, remove leech

steep bone
#

if ure not stacking vers then second one

shadow bay
#

but should i be stacking it..

#

tanking 15s max

steep bone
#

then no

#

if you're not stacking vers then use haste gems and enchants :p

#

you don't need versa at all until like 23-24++

strong forum
#

^

shadow bay
#

dunno about that, shit hits p hard even in 15s

modern brook
#

at 15s u can just be a prot warrior and eat it

steep bone
#

dunno about that, shit hits p hard even in 15s
@shadow bay sounds like you're not pressing any buttons

modern brook
#

^

#

or more commonly the wrong buttons

#

Or even more commonly your dps arent pressing any buttons

steep bone
#

but this week i agree, stuff like enraged casters hits hard

shadow bay
#

ye enraged+necrotic

modern brook
#

eh

#

I did a 16 +2 at 471 w/ a 440 shield

shadow bay
#

enraged zul 2hit me today in kr from 50% to 0 in 0.5sec

modern brook
#

w/ these affixes

shadow bay
#

cast+cast after 0,2sec+melee(? wtf)

steep bone
#

only thing i was actually surprised was 16KR first pack after 2nd boss

#

we haven't had dispel and those not kicked casts were kinda melting

#

but nothing that you cannot survive

#

and then not dispeled zul, but still nothing dangerously bad

modern brook
#

did u have CDs rolling for zul?

steep bone
#

well ye

#

i was actually surprised

modern brook
#

cause hes literally more of a boss than the last boss

shadow bay
#

nothing significant, some small shit

steep bone
#

he was pretty rough last week on +22

modern brook
#

YEah u wnat to cycle SR + shield wall + Last stand + externals

steep bone
#

i mean

modern brook
#

ESP when raging esp on fort

steep bone
#

im speaking about enraged zul

modern brook
#

granted only 1 of those is true

distant crystal
#

last week was bring a moonkin week

steep bone
#

Oh we still have tyran week, dunno if you're NA

distant crystal
#

treants + soothe are OP

modern brook
#

IM NA but im at work so i still expect raging necro until i get home

#

THe point is waifu we're agreeing

#

Have big coolodwns rolling for zul

#

hes scary basically at all times

steep bone
#

always

#

zul is no joke XD

strong forum
#

Wait you can take damage in 15s?

#

Are you 410 ilvl?

steep bone
#

from zul yes and enraged mobs also

modern brook
#

nom w/ his good player privilege SMH

steep bone
#

apart from that, breeze

strong forum
#

Na but sometimes you gotta be rough :p

modern brook
#

I started tanking again last night

#

so bullfangos officially out of retirement

strong forum
#

Hide

modern brook
#

I opened the key trying to tricks my rogue

#

cause he was in the slot where the tank usually is

steep bone
#

Actually on that zul my pala was whoring dps without any Real healing on me so probs thats why it felt like its actually doing dmg

sweet summit
#

is 82k good dps in ML weird

steep bone
#

overall?

sweet summit
#

ya

steep bone
#

what +?

sweet summit
#

22

steep bone
#

what class?

sweet summit
#

pwarr

steep bone
#

Oh it was u

sweet summit
#

:)

#

yes

steep bone
#

i think that dps is goodish

sweet summit
#

hecc

#

how do i git gud then

steep bone
#

dunno, u were with TD?

sweet summit
#

yeah

#

TD5

steep bone
#

cuz i think i did like 75k overall without td

sweet summit
#

am i just bad

steep bone
#

lemme check, might have SS

#

no screenshot

#

rip

#

oh no theres actually one

#

LOL IM SO BETA

#

not even 70k

sweet summit
#

thats with vers ye?

steep bone
#

yeah i had verse

#

Tbh, go big dick after first boss and proc td few times, ez good overall

novel ruin
#

@sweet summit How big we’re ya pulling?

distant crystal
#

i did some keys with a No-IL frost mage last night

novel ruin
#

How was timer?

distant crystal
#

really weird to see mobs just disappear

#

i can't see their GS flying but I can see my target just fuckin vanish

sweet summit
#

uhh pretty small pulls compared to what i usually do since it was a pug and its necrotic

#

we 2 chested it

novel ruin
#

Seems fine imo. TD5 adds like 15k dps so if you went all vers, would have done like 67ishk

steep bone
#

I actually thought that doing weekly without questline for cape done still gonna give echoes ;_;
blizzard scammed me

novel ruin
#

And not fort so less TD/TC damage

sweet summit
steep bone
#

?

modern brook
#

Size is nature thing, not much you can do but be confident tbh

sweet summit
#

what

steep bone
#

OP is frustrated cuz smol penis

#

don't take him seriously

novel ruin
#

Report for his name

steep bone
#

^ xD

sweet summit
#

thats my GM, i cant change my own name in the discord

steep bone
#

what have you done

#

xD?

sweet summit
steep bone
#

Oh

#

i actually like your avatar

sweet summit
#

same

#

its more the status thing i think

#

had this avatar for a while

#

:^)

steep bone
#

I need to find new one

novel ruin
#

Why is he gonna remove you?

steep bone
#

gonna take a wild guess, he refuses to swap mains for first tier

sweet summit
#

me?

#

im the only warrior in the guild

#

i cant swap

steep bone
#

lul

#

you actually give me thoughts, besides our furry im second warrior

#

we've so many dhs tho

sweet summit
#

apparently its cringe cojo

#

unlucky

steep bone
#

why are you getting bullied by gm

sweet summit
#

idk

novel ruin
#

Everyone in the guild I’m trialing with says warriors don’t last in the guild

steep bone
#

bullying warriors Pepexecute

novel ruin
#

I just show up and press WW over and over, idk how I even got a trial

modern brook
#

is that not warrior?

novel ruin
#

Oh and I press Battle Shout

sweet summit
#

^
thats how

novel ruin
#

But the GM has a Prot Warrior alt he has been bringing

oblique garnet
#

#BenchTheMelee

sweet summit
#

he cant bring that in SL :)

#

pwarr dead πŸ¦€

novel ruin
#

Kappa

#

Omg

#

Ima try that this week

#

Just spam WW the entire fight and see what parse I end up at

sweet summit
#

lmfao

steep bone
#

inb4 more than others

novel ruin
#

Watch as I get like 6 or something

cursive burrow
#

We went from me being the only warrior to 3 or 4 on an alt raid Sunday. Im starting to get suspicious.

#

They said something about me not hitting battle shout.

#

I told them it doesn't do damage so whats the point...

steep bone
#

just don't die so you dont need battle shout again 500IQ

novel ruin
#

^

cursive burrow
#

That too. Mythic Xanesh progression.

#

Was icky.

steep bone
#

there'sliterally nothing to die on xanesh LUL

sweet summit
#

hehe

cursive burrow
#

Orb kickers failing.

steep bone
#

Oh well then its full wipe

cursive burrow
#

And having to cast battle shout again.

steep bone
#

tell ur guildies to get WA thats showing lines

#

literally impossible to fail orbs

cursive burrow
#

They did. Was learning. Killed it last Thurs.

steep bone
#

gratz!

sweet summit
#

epic mate

steep bone
cursive burrow
#

Were now 6/12 pushing Vex this week. None of us had raided Mythic before and started the guild March 31st.

sweet summit
#

nice mate, keep it up

steep bone
#

that's actually nice achievement

#

i'd do drest tho, it's free loot

cursive burrow
#

Were debating it. We all hate the Drest fight and Vexx looks actually fun.

toxic gyro
#

Drest doesn’t drop anything lol

worn bear
#

what changes on mythic drest?

toxic gyro
#

Pvp trinket I guess

sweet summit
#

uhhh nothing i think

#

jk

steep bone
#

what changes on mythic drest?
@worn bear longer and even more boring

sweet summit
#

idk

worn bear
#

ouch

modern brook
#

I literally lost 4k gold to m xanesh prog so im never doing m raids again

steep bone
#

dunno, have you had that tank debuff on hcu gotta drop on dildos to make them take more dmg?

worn bear
#

still fun to look cool w yr mog and leap across the arena

cursive burrow
#

Yeah thats heroic.

steep bone
#

thats also on myticc

worn bear
#

^ seeds r heroic n up

steep bone
#

well drest is absolute pepega fight that shouldn't ever exist, that boss is not even dungeon boss quality

worn bear
#

love how tendies have a smokebomb effect in an attempt to make it even semi-difficult

steep bone
#

if you stand too long in that bomb you get mced right?

sweet summit
#

nah

#

its the maw

steep bone
#

(laugh or not, i still have no clue what im doing on that fight XD)

sweet summit
#

and DH/fury warr can outheal it lol

arctic python
#

for nzoth prog woudl it be best to stack versa amps or just go full out twilight?

steep bone
#

go twilight

distant crystal
#

i'd only take it off for some swap fights

steep bone
#

only things that 'hurt' there are big dildos that does full cast on you, but cd on it and ure fine, most likely they'll die before that tho. And then adds in p2 but only if you have two on you at the same time but then its not your fault

distant crystal
#

if ripping off your cotank is an issue

steep bone
#

my guild bullied me for not having versa but td5

#

then i got something like funny amount of 20% ish

#

and things still didn't do anything at all, all deaths were either me being pepega/exposing back/no mitigation&cds up or healers didn't heal for 10s straight

arctic python
#

alright

#

Appreciate it

steep bone
#

having nzoth trinket is nice tho

cursive burrow
#

Ibe dealt with the bullying.

steep bone
#

and another issue you may encounter is that you can outaggro Thought Harvester with td proccing

cursive burrow
#

Now that we're 3-4 weeks out it doesn't matter.

arctic python
#

The DK tank is running full TD lol

steep bone
#

I mean this late into tier probs everyone's overgearing it even without mythic gear

cursive burrow
#

Just need a shield.

steep bone
#

^

cursive burrow
#

Stupid ilvl 470 shield.

steep bone
#

jumping from 465 to 475 was like waow effect

cursive burrow
#

Im running 1 BFI until I can get a 475 then swap to HoD.

#

Today might be the day. Ill know in an hour.

steep bone
#

good luck πŸ˜„

#

Im still concerned that heroic raid drops only 460 shield while +15 465 yep

strong forum
#

waiting for shields to drop weird

oblique garnet
#

Just buy one

steep bone
#

i was lucky to get it on first kill peepoHappy
with socket tho happines intensifies

oblique garnet
#

They are relatively cheap

ionic fern
#

If they cost more than 5k i can't.

steep bone
#

they're still 400k+

#

imagine spending 400k for something thats gonna be irrevelant in few weeks

strong forum
#

i mean right now yea

#

but thats just like trying to build a vers set from scratch right now

cursive burrow
#

Proudmoore they just dropped to 500k

#

From 750k

steep bone
#

probs if that was socket+vers corrupt boe shield

#

i'd consider buying if i havent had one alrdy

#

or TD2-3

cursive burrow
#

Idr what it was.

strong forum
#

week1 buyer here

#

:peeposabers:

steep bone
#

just drop from first kill few months into kill after longer break

marble wave
#

whats the good % of shield block uptime for warrior right now? if fight is constant, and there is many targets like in m+

novel ruin
#

You don’t care about uptime

#

Look at number of blocked hits

#

And make sure to have block up when taking physical damage

vocal skiff
#

Wow, in the same day I got a TD3 from my cache, and TD2 in horrific visions lol

#

fuck that RNG

steep bone
#

what, you got td5 in one day, that's giga good

marble wave
#

@novel ruin why uptime isnt important now? if sb + ls is around 40%, isnt it a bad % for surviving constant melees, cos ots like 95% of damage on trash m+ fights?

novel ruin
#

Uptime over the course of the dungeon is bad to look at. You care about maintaining uptime when taking physical damage and that is a number that’s hard to find/calculate

#

Just focus on having shield block up when tanking mobs

distant crystal
#

you can have higher overall uptime but worse uptime when you're getting melee'd

#

if you're not using it smartly

novel ruin
#

^

warm plinth
#

It's still a good identifier of you doing shitty in most cases but it's not a good measure of your level of success. e.g. if I have 20% Shield Block uptime, I know I suck. But I can also have 60% Shield Block uptime and 40% of that uptime was when I wasn't taking any blockable damage.

#

In which case I still suck but if I don't dig deeper, I don't necessarily know I suck

#

That's why we recommend logs and looking at % of blocked hits on the logs

marble wave
#

@novel ruin just looking at trash fights for like 5 mins between bosses, and on 99% of first talents row uptime (haste one) there is 40% of sb + ls. just cheking new m+ tank, seems bad at it

novel ruin
#

I’m confused at what you are saying?

sweet summit
#

you->damage taken->melee->blocked hits

#

thats a good indicator

vocal skiff
#

@steep bone this late into the tier, I already have the adequate TD on my gear, and worse, the pieces that I got had less optimal stats and were on slots that I already have Twilight Dev lol

novel ruin
#

Rip

warm plinth
#

40% of combined Shield Block/LS uptime for an entire dungeon is garbage no matter how they were using it.

#

But looking at ITF uptime is just pointless because it's not possible for it to be low

cursive burrow
#

Heroic throw kiting tank.

marble wave
#

@warm plinth thats what im confused for. im last time tanked in s2, and still remember higher uptime for me vs my new 24+ keys tank

warm plinth
#

Well, if you're doing 24+ keys and he's running C&S major, then he may not be using Shield Block as much? Don't need to press it if you aren't being hit, and it's pretty easy not to be hit if you're rooting the mobs every second

marble wave
#

@warm plinth he levelling new char, for our m+ team, he s just 4.5k last season, not 24+ right now πŸ˜‰ he just saying something like "has no rage generation for constant ip + sb uptime" but im sure sb is too much important than ip on trash

sweet summit
#

uhhh

#

can u link logs

warm plinth
#

He's pushing IP too much probably

sweet summit
#

sounds like hes doing something very wrong

warm plinth
#

Or using Revenge when it's not free

ionic fern
#

Devastate spam
IP spam
Revenge Spam
Not using TC/SS

sweet summit
#

yes^all of the above

warm plinth
#

Listening to Mwahi spam

#

πŸ‘€

ionic fern
#

Never listen to me.

vocal skiff
#

Btw, in workshop this week you gotta pull a robot in the bridge leading to king mechagon. Would you pull with the gnomes for the shield they provide, or solo, considering that in pugs more often than not the shield is blown up

warm plinth
#

How is the shield blown up? You literally have to target it to kill it

#

If pugs are killing the shield then I would pull it alone because you already have a tinkerer to deal with so adding more damage doesn't seem smart

#

But if you can convince them to not be stupid, pull him with the first pack so you can use the shield to trivialize short out/arcing zap

#

Or well I guess that dude just does the short out part

obtuse yoke
distant crystal
#

plot twist: it came with vers3 but he cleansed and recorrupted

sweet summit
#

l e e c h

obtuse yoke
#

πŸ˜›

#

i wish it came with leech stat

rancid ember
#

Leech so rare πŸ€” nice boots though grats!

obtuse yoke
#

10 ilvl is only 4 vers apparently, but i'll take it

#

already got a ton of vers boxes to throw on it too

rancid ember
#

Does the Leech & Speed proccing on items carry over to SL as well?

warm plinth
#

As far as we know; don't think I've read anything about tertiaries going away

sweet summit
#

havent heard anything either

distant crystal
#

so do you reroll your legendaries until it gets leech ravager

sweet summit
#

oh

#

oh no

#

nonono

#

not like this

warm plinth
#

Don't think legendaries have ever been able to proc anything

distant crystal
#

aren't you just like

modern brook
#

maybe we've just been very unlucky

distant crystal
#

enchanting an epic or something

#

to make it legendary now

sweet summit
#

i think you're just enchanting a crafted item or something

steep bone
#

it happened, im benched ;___;

sweet summit
#

pog

steep bone
#

not pog

#

still didnt got raden legs

sweet summit
#

???

#

oh right

#

rip

steep bone
#

but atleast im gonna be there for cara&nzoth

#

nzoth is all what i care about tbh

#

once i get mount i cba, i can be benched until sl

mellow patio
#

Killed nzoth 12 times

#

Still no mount

deep steppe
#

carry me sempai UwU

tame garden
#

wait

#

24 mounts and none for you

mellow patio
#

Correct

#

I’ll jam to that

tame garden
#

yikes

brittle owl
#

gave away two mounts cause its fucking ugly

mellow patio
#

It is my trophy

#

I deserve it

distant crystal
#

poor man's hivemind tbh

mellow patio
#

I’ll jam to that

sullen valve
rancid ember
#

Boys. To break MaChimba in King's Rest do I just have to open Any coffin before he starts the 1st channel? Found a post on Compwow reddit but it wasn't very clear.

grand drum
#

You open the one thats shaking

#

Oh nvm didnt read the full thing

rancid ember
#

So optimally I should tank him front and center and other 4 run to tombs? whoever gets trapped will have sum1 to cover and he'll have to run all the way over to start channel right?

tepid thorn
#

2 specific coffins tbh

#

lemme grab a pic

#

(to my knowledge)

#

oh mate i think i misunderstood you. you asked about the boss fight not the 2 adds before it xD

#

usually on higher keys you assign coffins to group members so they could open it instantly

#

right before the channel they all go to their spots

#

theres also a way to bug the boss but idk tbh

vocal skiff
#

Speaking of which, the other day when I pulled the 2 golems together, they imprisoned the dps on the tombs on the other side

#

How come that happens

modern brook
#

You may have held then in the wrong spot

#

Sometimes its finicky but u wanna hold both between the coffins and the altar

#

Near the red dots in that picture

distant crystal
#

sometimes it'll go in the other coffin

#

think it's based on where the target is

cursive burrow
#

Think it's whatevers closest to the player

#

Not the golem

queen mantle
#

would it be worth to get rid of all ITs this week and just going full vers?

#

this is wat im using rn

distant crystal
#

nah

mellow patio
#

Vers is for....

undone sun
mellow patio
#

nerds

steep bone
#

nerds
@mellow patio and people doing actual higher-ish keys

#

πŸ˜„

vocal skiff
#

man, that feeling when you realize you didn't swap your essences from doing visions in the middle of a dungeon

#

running AD 19 with CoF

#

and no lucid minor

arctic python
#

i often run without lucid minor

vocal skiff
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I do that only in raids

arctic python
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Conflict major, aegis/SotW/vision minor for a lot of M+ high keys

vocal skiff
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Maybe if I was vers stacking

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That's probably the play

arctic python
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yeah i am so it makes sense

distant crystal
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just ditch warden

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cns lucid aegis pog

steep bone
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cof major aint that terrible πŸ˜›

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moar st damage \o/

vocal skiff
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it's not terribad, but I learned to rely on lucid major a lot recently

steep bone
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Guys, it's very prot related question, gimme some good movies to watch while leveling so something lightweigh without much brain required to understand, preferably SF

please peepoHappy

tepid thorn
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mission impossible

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die hard 1-3

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even 4 is fine

novel ruin
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Seven Deadly Sins on Netflix

steep bone
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i've seen die hard many times

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same with mission impossible

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😦

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and i need movies not really series

honest plinth
steep bone
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Actually gladiator ;o

crude light
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Yo boyz πŸ™‚ I have a question. I am watching nerftank atm ( he is streaming btw) and he has some sort of macro with the shield slam that is giving him insane amount of rage.. Any idea what kind of macro is it?

distant crystal
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i don't think his macro is giving him insane amount of rage

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if i had to guess it's /cancelaura Blessing of Protection

novel ruin
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It’s giving him 15 rage like normal

crude light
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Hmmm

grand drum
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He probably had lucid up

crude light
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as minor yeah

crude notch
distant crystal
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called it

crude light
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❀️

distant crystal
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nerf bustin out the IT2x1 IT1x1 vers3x7

novel ruin
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Makes sense if you want to play with thing from beyond.

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Imo I think playing both aegis and lucid minor over the 20% extra CDR is more impactful.

tender phoenix
novel ruin
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No

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You only do vers gems if stacking vers corruption/gear

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Otherwise go haste

tender phoenix
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ive got 3 vers rank 3 so vers gems now?

grand drum
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What level keys are you tanking

tender phoenix
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10s-15s ish

grand drum
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If its like 23 or lower you dont really need the vers

tender phoenix
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welp looks as if i wasted some echos

obtuse yoke
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did u put the vers3 on gear with haste/vers?

tender phoenix
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yes

obtuse yoke
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well thats good an not entirely a waste

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but you don't really need it

tender phoenix
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so put the clown make-up away?

obtuse yoke
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ideally you want 2x ineffable truth r1 and fill the rest with TD