http://twitch.tv/itsyomiel - 25 WCM going right now lol
#protection
limpid pawn
undone sun
onyx vessel
still pagoda
+25 WCM This week? Nah, i'm gonna spacetruck a bit 
limpid pawn
1 shotted witches
limpid pawn
ok 1 hour an 18 min later, done
gray mantle
on mythic nzoth, does c&s major cancel the psychophages' cast?
and how do u guys deal with rounding them up? md's etc or just try to clap aggro?
limpid pawn
MD helps, also know the spots they converge to - beat them there and clap --> jump to next converge spot
gray mantle
gotcha. so dont bother with c&s major ya?
verbal hill
How come Ignore Pain is only really seen as a rage dump?
still pagoda
How come Ignore Pain is only really seen as a rage dump?
@verbal hill
It's absorb numbers are negligibly low
and SB gives you much more value out of itself
verbal hill
So last stand is more of a rotational ability when SB is down?
still pagoda
yes
barren torrent
Yes
still pagoda
it is always a rotational ability
barren torrent
LS is not a "OH SHIT" type of ability
still pagoda
there is no tank CD in the game
that can be used as an OH SHIT button
always plan around your stuff
on the a bit of an off-topic side of things. Fresh tankadin with only 10% haste feels terrible
barren torrent
Literally every death strike is a oh shit button
Playing dk is a oh shit situation in itself
Better jam 
still pagoda
Playing dk is a oh shit situation in itself
Not really
you always plan around your RP for the sake of damage spikes
for tank busters especially
barren torrent
Ye ikr
barren torrent
It's just crazy fun to see bdk health bar during tough fights
verbal hill
Does brace for impact stack?
undone sun
extra block and ss damage stacks from BFI, yes
barren torrent
^
verbal hill
So basically all azerite traits stack other than deafening crash?
undone sun
DC stacks
verbal hill
oh so they all stack?
undone sun
yup
verbal hill
nice that makes it easy
still pagoda
all numeric values(damage, healing) stack
undone sun
there may be a few throughout the game, but for the most part it's more dependent on which part of the trait that stacks
still pagoda
durations, proc chances, % increases don't
barren torrent
Is it worth to stack a specific trait is another point but yes every traits can stack at least a part of its effect
verbal hill
I'm looking at the spreadsheet to see what is blockable,
An Aqu'sir for example none of his spells are blockable
But should I still be casting SB because of his auto attacks?
ionic fern
Yes.
barren torrent
Auto attack is the most common case of blockables hits and so you wanna hve SB or LS up while tanking them
So yes
frosty wren
those wonderful DCs..
verbal hill
18 Waycrest: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/BC9VmNW8jgp2tqzR/
How were my boss fights?
I dropped to around 5% hp on Lady Waycrest and if it was a higher key i would have died there, not sure what im doing wrong
sweet summit
theres no prot warrior in that log
strong forum
im certain BDK discord could help you more
strong forum
but what im gonna say is that wasting strike is prolly what trucked you 😉
sweet summit
AMS it
main vault
Playing BDK is your issue
verbal hill
yeah
frosty wren
Playing BDK is your issue
@main vault burned 😂
honest plinth
we can sr it warr>dk
urban tusk
ilgynoths 2nd beam on hc+ hurts massively. is there any trick to avoid some dmg?
urban tusk
ah sr works on it! thats great news
brittle owl
30% aint nothing to scoff at
sweet summit
25% mate
worldly flint
Hey boys and girls... I just spent 35k echoes on versa 3. I was messing around with it last night but wondering if 41% versa is enough? Or is that low for a versa build?
worldly flint
Definitely missing some sockets and no Alch trinket
novel ruin
Seems a bit low for all vers amps. With Alch trinket and all sockets you can get to like high 50-low 60% base
With no Alch trinket and no full sockets you can aim for high 40/low 50
worldly flint
Yeah I felt like I was a bit low. I think 2 pieces of my gear have no versa but the alternative is lower ilvl with some versa gear not sure if it’s worth
novel ruin
How much lower ilvl?
worldly flint
10-15
novel ruin
If you are vers stacking you need vers on all pieces
10ilvl is fine to drop but if you aren’t doing 24 + keys I wouldn’t go full vers
worldly flint
Yeah I’m building a set for 24+ keys
Alright I’ll have to try and fish for some good versa pieces for those 2 slots. Thanks for the confirmation it did feel really low considering the stacked amount of versa
novel ruin
But make sure you have haste/vers in every piece
worldly flint
Yeah I remember being below 20% when starting omg it felt like I was in slow motion
pastel crown
One thing that vers does do is open up healers to do more damage. You can take a lot less attention and the GCDs the healer uses on you could be used as damage output. But you will personally do less damage.
That would be in a raid situation
main vault
quit logging in to live
sweet summit
How do i get seratonin then
main vault
log into PTR
sweet summit
😮
main vault
Ive been leveling a SPriest
distant crystal
uhh is the rogue discord down for anyone else
sweet summit
Yep
sweet summit
cloak
warm plinth
Any CC works on it
muted heron
and cloak cd and spell reflect cd
warm plinth
Use cloak, reflect, stun, fear
sweet summit
fear/sb/shockwave
warm plinth
Kite if needed
muted heron
so i should just play better
warm plinth
Or if you just aren't comfortable, go below 40. Your call
distant crystal
real men run 79 corruption worth of TD
sweet summit
real men run without corruptions
elfin hedge
What are peps thoughts on running avoidant (came with the gear, not buying). I'm under my budget, so it's not a corruption issue, just is is worth keeping? Running 18-20 keys.
sweet summit
not needed
elfin hedge
so useless for keys
limpid pawn
no
avoidant is good if it's a tertiary stat
same w/ leech
and maybe if you're a hunter or something
elfin hedge
Prot war
distant crystal
keep it until you get some better corruptions to replace it with if you're under 40 with it
otherwise insta cleanse
elfin hedge
@distant crystal thanks 🙂
warm plinth
Yeah no reason to cleanse unless it's putting you over 40 corruption or something
light relic
is the 485 onehander better tha nthe wrathion one, which has better stats?
10 ilvl difference
toxic gyro
Ilvl always better
sweet summit
yes, 485 is the bis one
toxic gyro
Especially when it’s 10ilvl
light relic
so this guy is talking out of his ass ?
sweet summit
yes
dumdum
weapon dps contributes to bigger IP too
and a lot of extra damage
there is no reason to use a lower ilvl weapon tbh
toxic gyro
If it was 5ilvl and u stacked vers, then maybe but not 10
strong forum
even thats debatable
cuz youd get 200 vers at best out of a weapon if it existed
with vers% in mind, thats just over 2%
strong forum
yes not even that, its rather 150 vers with vers%
toxic gyro
So shear gain of stat with vers amps would be less than 100 for sure
steep bone
Did mother rotate corruptions already?
sick sentinel
In my opinion, the only time ilvl is thrown out of the window is Azerite pieces. 480 Azerite with sub par traits versus a 465/475 with perfect Azerite traits
And yes at 11pm EST last night @steep bone
sweet summit
28 minutes ago mate
steep bone
@sick sentinel not for EU
@sweet summit thanks
Meh, 51% vers with food. Probably still not enough for +17 weekly no leavers
sweet summit
i think thats what i have 🤔
steep bone
still missing 3 sockets tho
sweet summit
i cba with socks
steep bone
but i guess im ready for 25-26s gear-wise
I cba too, i was lucky to drop items with sockets
sweet summit
pog
steep bone
so im giga
sweet summit
vers nav pls ty
warm plinth
My warrior somehow is my highest ilevel toon now
steep bone
wait rly
warm plinth
Even though it's an alt
steep bone
u go vers nav with vers set?
sweet summit
force multi doesnt give vers
warm plinth
You use vers nav with vers
steep bone
Oh pog
obtuse yoke
My warr is perma stuck at 476.5 ilvl unless i get a 475 haste vers from box 😦
strong forum
thats 1 ilvl higher than me
sweet summit
how much haste u got
strong forum
31
sweet summit
not u :(
sweet summit
@steep bone
steep bone
sec
25.65%
but i've 3 pieces without haste 😭
and cba to spend more gold on crafted haste/vers
as im closing to like 30 crafted items XD and thats my best
warm plinth
crit heavy too kek
steep bone
it was either that or like 89 vers XD
sweet summit
leech 
steep bone
leech
sweet summit
leech
warm plinth
Yuge
steep bone
leech
obtuse yoke
What mog y’all runnin tho? 👀
steep bone
mythic set, mythic cara weap, bullwark of azzinoth
steep bone
actually i like it
steep bone
tusks 
sweet summit
its WoD pvp season 3 + artifact weapon
strong forum
sweet summit
full set
strong forum
you havent seen a better tusks mog, i can guarantee it
steep bone
wish i could hide corruption effect
exotic spoke
we showing mogs?
steep bone
go naked chest and some primal pants
sweet summit
yeah
strong forum
cringe
steep bone
@strong forum
sweet summit
why dont you use the purple artifact weapon skin @steep bone
exotic spoke
steep bone
Alliance
exotic spoke
❤️ you too qtpie
strong forum
doesnt even have dreadflame
exotic spoke
I can make it worse for you
strong forum
dreadflame is 👌 on TF
obtuse yoke
@strong forum is your mog a set?
strong forum
no its all mix
exotic spoke
sweet summit
thats a big flex mate
steep bone
@sweet summit i don't have many skins, just basic, pvp ones and hidden basic color
sweet summit
holy
obtuse yoke
My tauren is a basic bitch so im just running 1800 pvp set with bulwark
steep bone
this one looks nice
daring bay
What is the consesus on this weeks corruptions? 9x r3 verse or 8xr3 verse +1 IT ?
strong forum
7x vers3 + 2x IT1
sweet summit
IT1>Vers3
strong forum
anything else is pointless min maxing that turns out to be worse
ionic fern
Chad dw0rf life.
strong forum
im sure you can get a better shield
ionic fern
No i can't.
steep bone
Some WF key pusher twitch watcher: BUT MY FAV STREAMER IS RUNNING ONLY 1IT YA'LL R WRONG
ionic fern
Since i cba doing mog runs.
daring bay
I am sure you can get better...everything
ionic fern
Rude.
daring bay
:O
ionic fern
That tbh
brittle owl
your mogs are bad, your choice in race is horrible. in fact, i feel like my aesthetic taste is actually getting diminished by looking at them. everyone in this channel is nauseous because of you
sweet summit
sweet summit
eyir socks
gilded tendonBOT
🧦
sweet summit
steep bone
eyir socks
gilded tendonBOT
🧦
steep bone
LULW
strong forum
eyir sucks rocks
brittle owl
eyir cunt
steep bone
eyir sucks
gilded tendonBOT
fuk u @steep bone
brittle owl
whoops
steep bone
eyir rocks
gilded tendonBOT
thank u @steep bone
sweet summit
eyir rocks
gilded tendonBOT
thank u @sweet summit
brittle owl
ngl
sweet summit
🚀
brittle owl
eyir is pretty dumb
sweet summit
eyir owns
strong forum
eyir sucks socks rocks
brittle owl
it's like someone was in the middle of making it work
and then went out to buy milk
and got kidnapped on the way back
steep bone
eyir is like emotionally unstable, one sec she wants to fuk u second later thanks you
strong forum
the tsundere gf you always wanted
sweet summit
big tiddy goth gf? 😳
wicked pulsar
At what keylevel do you start stacking :catjam:s
strong forum
every key you log onto your warrior for
brittle owl
novel ruin
Besides alliance siege
verbal hill
So is prot warrior really good for necro?
sweet summit
pwarr good for everything
verbal hill
lol
sweet summit
have shockwave and leap for easy resets
novel ruin
I suggest pulling everything in orb room in temple and seeing how fast and how many stacks you can get
novel ruin
Have you seen this firsthand Erga?
sweet summit
yes.
strong forum
yes
novel ruin
Did you live?
sweet summit
yes
novel ruin
God among warriors
sweet summit
novel ruin
I just got to 99 stacks then turned my back
wicked pulsar
Can you sheathe your weapon and shield so its on your back and let them hit that?
undone sun
no 🙂
sweet summit
party pooper :(
crude notch
sweet summit
racing flags?
chilly brook
Is there a way to look at external CD's available when someone dies in WCL?
sweet summit
easiest way i can think of is looking at external casts, and doing some math
maybe wipefest has that?
sweet summit
:kekw:
daring bay
:V
ionic fern
🏁
steep bone
wowanalyzer shows what you had available when you died
sweet summit
steep bone
@chilly brook like here https://www.wowanalyzer.com/report/pwb7rT3x9DBRaVWv/12-Mythic+N'Zoth+the+Corruptor+-+Wipe+11+(6:34)/Waîfu/standard/death-recap what i had available and what i had used
chilly brook
ye but that's personals
I'm trying to offer some help to our other tank because his first night tanking N'zoth was Thursday and he's usually a DPS
steep bone
if you lurk into warcraftlogs at specific time you should be able to see what x toon had available
but also let him get some weak aura that shows healer's externals and just ask if needed
honest plinth
for tos room there is no reason to survive btw you just pull all the mobs and die after eyes done
sweet summit
depends on how smooth the run was before that last part imo
you dont need to, in most cases
the shroud "bug" saves too much time for that to be needed
at least in the keys i do :p
novel ruin
@chilly brook have him take video of his run then y’all can watch it over
steep bone
if you have rogue ;_;
sweet summit
not having a rogue is lowkey inting if u wanna push "high" 👀
steep bone
im still at 22-23s range
sweet summit
you could get away with no rogue in some dungeons tbh
strong forum
get a load of this guy
sweet summit
ill give you a load of me 😳
strong forum
😳
chilly brook
@novel ruin I already know some of his base play could be better as far as wasted runes or bad marrowrend casts etc.
honest plinth
man rogue damage is so bad in 22-24 range
sweet summit
rogue damage always bad :(
steep bone
if i see roge doing 40k st explaining himself 'IM OUTLAW BRO' my braincells commit suicide
chilly brook
What if said rogue is 450 ilvl @steep bone ?
steep bone
then he's not gonna do keys in range of my keys
honest plinth
40k is rly bad i mean they have lowest overall all the time
chilly brook
😛
steep bone
so idc that
chilly brook
So you no flame my alt cool
steep bone
but you also don't bring rogue as boostie
honest plinth
i know man but there is plenty situations we dont need them
honest plinth
outlow is good n UR
sweet summit
but those are the keys where i dont feel like rogue is needed
yeah, but so is DH
and BM
honest plinth
dh cant solo head
steep bone
isn't rogue good for KR ifyou wanna take 2 pillars with last boss?
or onepillar depends
sweet summit
head?
honest plinth
ye worm
sweet summit
maggot or the dildo?
honest plinth
dildo one
steep bone
why would dh have to solo it
steep bone
well he can but still, why
honest plinth
also outlaw is good for spider/maggot
sweet summit
yeah, i know
steep bone
but it's not nessesary
honest plinth
ofc its not
steep bone
@sweet summit is it worth reflecting something else than cyclones on first ToS boss?
sweet summit
well if you know youll have reflect back for cyclones, reflect jolt. cyclone is best value tho
jolt or gust
i forget whats what
sweet summit
ya, that
steep bone
cyclone reflect is so pog thou
honest plinth
huge damage
sweet summit
wtb unnerfed version back
honest plinth
wasting strike reflect is also OP. i was top 2 dps in this fight last time.
sweet summit
man i miss first boss underrot in like season 2 or something
sweet summit
where?
honest plinth
ur 1st boss casts
steep bone
there's always someone inting on kicks whenever i yell reflect dont kick 😦
sweet summit
kick him :)
honest plinth
idk if you have same issue
but
the fuckng never kick but when i use reflect
they*
steep bone
idd
honest plinth
they like leeeeeets go
steep bone
i mean
doing 1# or 2# dps on boss vs doing last dps
kinda HELPS with doing dungeon faster
or 1st boss shrine, lemme reflect + explain before we do it
hunters send pets as soon as boss is back
honest plinth
he thats why i like fights like Rixxa
honest plinth
they caaaaaaant kick haha
steep bone
wait is that 3rd ML
sweet summit
ye
steep bone
honest plinth
haha
honest plinth
ye
steep bone
on that boss im like "ill reflect"
as soon as boss is about to cast im getting healer external
honest plinth
reflect or die haha
steep bone
oh ye
steep bone
if you have two dps being closest then they're getting debuff aye
sweet summit
two closest targets, yeah
honest plinth
not pug thing anyway
steep bone
well, just have IT proc back to back
sweet summit
true
steep bone
we almost inted tos earlier, im like 10% hp after eyes cuz i refused to kite as mobs were almost ded anyway
what others did? INSTA GO IN
they died, we had to 3 man spider ;_;
sweet summit
bruh moment
steep bone
speaking about tos
honest plinth
btw is Drill Smash modified by forti?
coz we ha like huuuuge damage spikes last week
had*
sweet summit
i dont think so, no
sweet summit
really?
steep bone
you ignore that with shield block anyway
honest plinth
i can sb aoe effect ? rly? didnt know that
sweet summit
https://justhealus.com/
its tyrannical scaled, not fort
steep bone
yes
sweet summit
its blockable, aye
steep bone
you just stand in it
honest plinth
but my group lst like 80% hp each time he jumps
sweet summit
yep
it does damage
if u dont have defensives/externals
like, in the 29 they used mage cauterize as a "cooldown"
sweet summit
yeah
honest plinth
oh Homing Missile affected by forti it makes sense
also ws is not that ez on high forti weeks. magneto-arm is doing rly huge damage
sweet summit
xD
honest plinth
im not playing on tyr weeks( im pussy) 😄
steep bone
tyr weeks are residentsleeper
honest plinth
ye
steep bone
i used to say that tyran weeks are easier than forti
honest plinth
like 10-20 is much easier on tyr
sweet summit
yah
honest plinth
wanna try Cannon Barrage strat in fh next week
steep bone
whats that
sweet summit
same but it seems like you kinda need some brain
so idk if i can do it
canon barrage, last boss ability
steep bone
you kill tarsh with that?
steep bone
Oh
sweet summit
so u pull trash onto boss when its low
sweet summit
and canon barrage it
honest plinth
ye also his saber spell
honest plinth
thye are pullng with sabers for sure
zinc jackal
Does Versatile add extra Verse to Surging Vitality
sweet summit
yes
zinc jackal
tyy
sweet summit
np
honest plinth
wanna try it so bad haha
sweet summit
do it 
honest plinth
need some practice
also this spell is modified by forti
so ill practice next week in ~20 or something like that
sweet summit
good idea
sweet summit
LOL
steep bone
honest plinth
ye me too but there is some mobs not affected by it
sweet summit
most, if not all are
but it can only hit itself+2 other mobs
honest plinth
spin to win ones
sweet summit
spin to win?
honest plinth
they are using whirlwind
honest plinth
two of them in pat with horseman
lethal mauve
Any tips of maximizing damage when soloing as prot?
ebon hound
lethal mauve
mostly world quests and whatnot. Just feel like im still wet noodles at ilvl 447
steep bone
Why do some warriors are using ashevane trinket?
strong forum
cuz stuped
severe knoll
@steep bone Because unlike other tanks, a lot of our kutzpa is from dishing out damage. And unfortunately due to design the Razor Coral is the best melee trinket in game. It just has the potential to allow people, especially prot warriors that deal ALL physical damage, to hit like a damn mac truck.
main vault
Looks like alot of words to say it does more dmg
mellow patio
My sims say otherwise
steep bone
Well im just asking why they're using not that i want to use 😄
marble cipher
You see more hps I guess....
About that, whenever I watch streamers like Andy I see prot warrior pull huge hps. Without lucid major. Is that just spamming IP?
Or is it often leech related?
autumn pendant
main vault
+LPS and etc
still pagoda
all the factors on top of vers increasing all the healing and absorbs he does
olive gust
tanking 17-20s what is the recommended haste/vers and corruption .
still pagoda
tanking 17-20s what is the recommended haste/vers and corruption .
@olive gust
Ilvl > haste > crit > vers > mastery and TDTDTD all the way up to 22-23
strong forum
@marble cipher that just comes from IP in high keys, they also have like 15%+ leech on their gear
even with my 6% leech and full vers gear i have 100k hps in packs every now and again
marble cipher
K, yeah, I don't reach those levels of hps. But no leech, no lps, and I've not really tested my vers build, I have it, just not running it (18-20)
strong forum
ya, its literally just that
marble cipher
Aigh, still farming N'zoth every week for lps, and maybe then I'll try some higher keys with it.
strong forum
the higher your keys will go, the faster IP gets chewed through, the bigger the HPs will look like
its nothing to focus on
sick sentinel
last time it was this week affixes i was really enjoying necrotic minigame
don't got the weak aura, so not as much this time
steep bone
naa you just kite as your hp starts going low
i can pretty much sit with trash until like 40-50stack and then my hp starts falling down and i just leap away&wait
sick sentinel
my new hatred is atal dazar
steep bone
whyy
steep bone
your route might be scuffed if you're short on time, or really bad group
sick sentinel
those fucking dudes at priestess trash who deleted my entire group twice in a row today
steep bone
there's safe spot where rangeds can stay
and it works similar to first one just at the start on the left
sick sentinel
the route i'm doing is rezan, middle pack, go to troll boss , clear to mid, go to priestess, yazma
steep bone
dunno this week but what im doing is:
left double pack>obelisk to priestess>downstairs>one pack at the gate> 2x saurids>jump to rezan (bl)>pull one by one screamers on top of him after fears>snap rest of saurids at wall (3pack+skyscreamer)>go clear patrol guys+first totem guy and stealth>second pack>obelisk to boss>kill boss>have someone pull pack away or shroud>kill patrol with pack downstairs - or split into two pulls, if team is pepega it may be wipe>snap saurids 1by1>someone pull middle away>take obelisk to last boss>do last boss with one pillar
and ofc bl last boss
And i don't remember if that was 100% count, if not then at second obelisk on the right there are two stealth dudes upstairs right next to second totem that you can take
here is cool spot for rangeds to stay and they won't get charges from pack ahead
steep bone
and that's how you can snap 3 saurids (with speed pot of course, but im out of them xD) and ofc have leap
Im doing this one (MDT import)
or this when im doing it with scuffed grp and want to do all obelisks
sick sentinel
red arrow?
steep bone
Which one, at volkall?
i forgot to put note there, basically someone pulls that pack away, just make sure he has no hots or any healing on him or mobs will go to rest of the group
Just keep in mind, if you're doing rezan on side with skyscreamers you can LoS his fear ONLY AT STAIRS, wall is giga bait and it's not working 
sick sentinel
oh, typically what is idea for me is to take the previous obelisk right ontop of the group at the new obelisk, kill those, take obelisk to boss, and use it to phase back jump in stairwell
steep bone
well you can do that, but that pack is scary, on fortified is giga scary and you can do that obelisk with boss which saves time
spider might be tricky with no kicks, but blob is residentsleeper
sick sentinel
fear guy is strong as hell
steep bone
he's not
just sb
and there's no fear guy on that pillar that you do with boss
it's either blob or spider
since you run with yazma anyway blob is great, spider can be tricky but shouldn't be an issue, or just take it before boss, works also but as i said double caster+double honor guard is just meh, you probs gotta use cds that you could use on volkal
sick sentinel
why priestess first
steep bone
cuz you're getting 2 bl anyway, and jumping twice to rezan is taking unnesesary time
i mean going through that place twice*
sick sentinel
so, blood lust nuke priest before it can heal, then rezan vokal done
sick sentinel
oh, but do priest first
novel ruin
you get 3 bloodlusts in the dungeon
so you would lust the 2 pack on left
then rezan
then yazma
with that route
steep bone
Oh ye
forgot to mention that, thanks xan
❤️
or 2 bls, depends how fast you are
But if you lust left pack first then i doubt you'll have bl ready for rezan, packs are dying super quick
novel ruin
you can do more trash around the middle area
steep bone
oh ye
novel ruin
you can do some of the right side after lusting left 2 pack
atal is pretty flexible with route
novel ruin
necrotic
novel ruin
Gilding Claws
crude ether
steep bone
@sweet summit ^
sick sentinel
i dunno why, but when i uploaded my video a few days or weeks ago, ppl were able to see it, but i cant find it on my channel
undone sun
it'll be in your studio
sick sentinel
maybe i deleted it, thought about doing more runs for camera
steep bone
You can always upload on Twitch, easy process
still pagoda
or 2 bls, depends how fast you are
@steep bone
You can fit in 3 if you use go volkaal after rezan on tyr weeks
Just clear trash in the meanwhile
Then drop fear pillar all the way to vol
I've been planning AD routes for today
steep bone
can do too
steep bone
there are legit no higher keys than 13-18 this hour 😭
steep bone
still pagoda
Otherwise fuck this week cause work and studies on Monday
steep bone
im still hoping for 23 tol this week, or atleast 22
still pagoda
I'm hoping to do at least some keys
And also get haste gear on my pally
Not being able to sit in SotR for long Seraphim for long is really meh
still pagoda
Gotta show some trashtalkers that BfA pally can into 22s with zero vers and full DPS setup
steep bone
go for it
still pagoda
Now i just need 40% haste baseline and full haste/mastery gear
And full TD
With full cloak rez
steep bone
still pagoda
You can't sell it?
steep bone
tbh i'd go as low as 300k
still pagoda
Completely
steep bone
but i feel i might sell it for that 390
still pagoda
Can't even snipe key boosting offers on Nova normally
steep bone
im just running freehold alone
XD
cba dealing with 12873123817queues for boosts before i even hit 'tank'
still pagoda
On the other note space trucking simulator EVE's going pretty well
From pure mining autism standpoint
limpid pawn
this week carrying is pretty easy
these affixes for 15-20 are easier than fortified
3 starred an AFK carry 15 wcm
and timed a 19 afk carry siege
no bursting is awesome lol
steep bone
pulling packs with bosses ❤️
limpid pawn
lol you really do that?
still pagoda
On some weeks you can
limpid pawn
im talking about this week tho
still pagoda
Definitely not with bursting, necro, bolstering and sanguine
warm plinth
Imagine not pulling mobs with bosses on sanguine. That's called challenge mode
royal rune
@steep bone i'd totally buy for 300k
steep bone
@royal rune kazzak-EU if youre here then sure thing, ill be on in hour or so
royal rune
im nagrand -US
steep bone
Oh yikes then 😄
steep bone
sold it
arctic python
How come Leech becomes more important as you push really high keys but is not deemed valuable at around 24-25 keys?
ember arrow
Wow good yet?
steep bone
sweet summit
steep bone
sweet summit
@arctic python it is valueable everywhere, but people tend to overvalue it
arctic python
i just hear some of the top end warriors would prioritize leech on an item over 10 ilvl
like a 465 leech item (perfect stats) over a 475 perfect stats
strong forum
yes
arctic python
so at what point do you start prioritizing leech over ilvl
strong forum
whenever you have a haste+vers+leech+vers% corruption item available at 460/465+
im using 460 pants with all that for example over 475s
arctic python
Does that go for azerite pieces aswel? Like u would use 475 with blood siphon over a 480 without? (rest of traits the same)
undone sun
no
strong forum
any combination of
abyssal malevolence/nzoth helm
skitra/tankbuster/krakenshell shoulders
vexiona/mechanised plating chest/ashanve warden
if youre using anything else besides these, start looking into getting these
arctic python
using this chest piece (480) - would u rather use the vexiona on HC?
strong forum
forgot about that one
sweet summit
id rather have that, than HC vex yes
strong forum
100000%
sweet summit
thats a massive chest
arctic python
I just wanna stack leech 😭
sweet summit
then do it 🤷♀️
sick sentinel
So do we Know what warrior Tank / or tank general wants wich covenant?
sweet summit
sick sentinel
Kk
urban tusk
anyone tried prot in arena? if so, is it any good?
sweet summit
thing is, why play prot when you can play fury, and why play fury when you can play arms :p
like
everything works at low rating
urban tusk
for the fun
real orchid
using this chest piece (480) - would u rather use the vexiona on HC?
@arctic python
This over HC vex, really? Consider hc vex chest has both impassive Vassage & HoA
I have both so def interested in seeing why the better choice is still the 480 ash chest
real orchid
Might be less relevant in m+ and if vers stacking?
And also impassive vs longstrider/bulwark
Offensively I can agree that the ashvane chest is better at 480 vs 465 heroic.
But defensively HC 465 has a lot of great traits ( hOA, leech, impassive)
real orchid
You think IV is worth 15 ilvl
@crude notch
Lol I don't know, just trying to understand
sweet summit
This os on the topic of vers stacking in m+
And id still take a 480 ashvanes over 465 vex
real orchid
Yah just to clarify, I'm mostly talking about m+
sweet summit
Because ashvanes have BoM, MS amd OP. Very very strong traits ontop of higher ilvl
Yes, HoD amd IV is svery strong too, but i dont believe thats worth dropping 15 ilvls for, on a chest
real orchid
Is MS good?
sweet summit
Very
real orchid
Hmm
Might have to revisit that chest
I got the vex chest recently and decided to use that
Cuz it Sims very similarly for dmg
As the ashvane, but I figure IV, leech, HoA would give better defensive passively
novel ruin
Most players shouldn’t even run triple IV, overheals a ton, especially with vers
sweet summit
sick sentinel
i had a healer yell at me for not spell reflecting that a week or 2 ago....
then again, started not giving a crap since 2w-1mo ago when i completed mindborer +15 mount
pallid hollow
For whatever reason, that boss still do a fuck ton of damage to me though
i think after chemical burn, she do fire damage
sick sentinel
AD tyranical sucks ass
sweet summit
Ya her (rixxa) auto attacks are not blockable magic damage
pallid hollow
Does shield block worth pressing for shield slam damage?
sick sentinel
i'm trying to make failsafes for defensives in bigwigs, so whenever they go to cast melee ability bars/flashes turn yellow, or blue for magic, sound for if it's reflectable or blockable
DBM just has way too many (mostly loud and obnoxious) sounds (by default)
sick sentinel
well, i can block things, and i can reflect them
and pyshical, or magic damage, so thats 4 simple things can keep consistant color/sound
i will be happy if/when they bring back PVE disarm
disarm ranged adds in m+
novel ruin
I don’t think you’ll see that
sick sentinel
had it in cata or mists didn't we
sick sentinel
it barely worked against half the mobs
and on casters they would just sit and cast even if you did use it on them
just really nice to have the option on some trash fight,
can some1 give me a quick azerite trait run down for prot
just levelled a fresh war
deafening crash x 1, bastion of might x 3, whatever you want that's good x 2
ok cool
you require 1 crash, but no more
honest plinth
Good x2= hod/ms/clock
naive barn
So i just rolled a 465 1h w TD2 from M14... Is it safe to say i wont be upgrading that untill i roll a new weap with TD2/3 with higher ilvl? I dont have any other TD pieces... (2 days played)
novel ruin
prob not unless you get another TD2 with better stats
naive barn
u cant get TD3 weap?
sweet summit
you can
naive barn
😄
honest plinth
Or you can try to get 475 wpn from 1st mythic boss and farm echo for td
strange tide
Your weekly chest will be a 475 with TD1 almost guaranteed
sick sentinel
the mace i got from box is crit mastery, but it is 475 and indestructible
crude notch
Pog indestructible
warm plinth
o_o
steep bone
Yea we had 2 tendies
and that was at the end so just survive game until i think hunter shooted
warm plinth
I have a good habit on my DH (I do cannons for our group) of dying to swirlie right after I shoot the last cannon
still pagoda
@steep bone I SAID NUMEROUS TIMES
Shaman and MW are the best healers
since they are also the most available in group searching stuff
and amount of trash MW's is pretty low
daring marlin
lol
steep bone
rip tho packs before third boss
they were going bad
and we decided to take that 3 mob pack in far back with boss
XD
steep bone
wcl please or vod
sick sentinel
i have to order the bigger HDD 1 or more TB and then i will be able to save hours worth of videos
steep bone
there's solution for that, stream to twich and select in options to save stream, if you're not partnered it'll be saved for 14 days 😄
sick sentinel
shadow lands will be a good time though, everyone reset
new dungeons for people to fail at miserably for say 3 years
steep bone
if you start early with everyone and gonna be studying dungeons you won't be failing miserably
sick sentinel
uh, usually it takes between 1-4 hours, but i can make a video on the fly atm without impact game performance too much
1 hr to get ready, run, and trim video, 1-3 for it to get on YT
so if you have a particular dungeon request you would like to see me attempt, i can do that
sick sentinel
trim group forming and waiting,, then at end
steep bone
you dont have to record that part
steep bone
If you time it right and demo shout TFB, is it gonna do less damage?
warm plinth
Don't see why it wouldn't, but that'd be kinda tight timing since TFB hits from farther than melee range a lot of the time
And Demo is only 8 yard range
steep bone
oh ye but just curious
with conflict major it actually gets rooted just in range of shout
warm plinth
Yeah I guess in the kinda unlikely situation that TFB would spawn when you were about to recast Demo, then yeah it would reduce it
sick sentinel
in temple 2nd boss
any type of stun on knot of snakes instantly removes it and kills snakes
sick sentinel
that's the purple vines?
warm plinth
Yeah the ones that come up and root people
sick sentinel
cool good to know
warm plinth
Other than the start of P2, Storm Bolt should be up often enough to break every knot of snakes
limpid zinc
lets say that my psychic shell can tank 2.5 (two and half) hits from some ability. Will all 3rd hit still be reduced or just half of it?
also does armor, versa,avoidance works for shields (for example the one from this nzoth trinket)?
warm plinth
It will reduce by 80% up to the cap of the absorb, so if you have 30k left on the trinket's effect, then even if you took a 1 mil hp hit, it's still only absorbing 30k
All damage reduction happens before absorbs
limpid zinc
so it absorbs 30k and rest of this giga hit goes through, do i understand it correct?
warm plinth
Yes
limpid zinc
nice, thanks!
onyx vessel
We need some jam
undone sun
inland silo
ionic fern
sweet summit
hallow phoenix
J AM
hard copper
How is prot looking in SL?
+ 
= 
barren torrent
Without the fun of feeling like Captain 'Murica
strong forum
🔜
sweet summit
🥺
onyx vessel
Bonus is we get to clap bubble gamers in sl
Precast spell reflect then channel shattering throw
barren torrent
onyx vessel
The 500% to shield can be some jokes tho
barren torrent
If we had that on Ashvane
onyx vessel
Give the 1st boss in kr a add
Shattering throw
Hella worth
Still do tbh
Prepatch
onyx vessel
Shattering throw with vial pot avatar and demo
barren torrent
barren torrent
Stronk man 
onyx vessel
Better be for the 5min cd
strong forum
When a warri sees an absorb 
onyx vessel
Or w.e
strong forum
Must 