And some just get their damage divided by square root of number of targets(Revenge and Thunder Clap in particular)
#protection
naive barn
that shounds fucking dumb
sweet summit
this game is dumb :(
crystal dirge
hey
sweet summit
👋
crystal dirge
do you guys know how exactly the rooting the 2nd boss in SoB works? im trying giga hard to time my claps but she yeets anyways :c
sweet summit
you clap at the end of her shoot cast when she is close to or ar 100 energy
doenst have to be the very end
just like the 2nd half of the cast
crystal dirge
hmm thats what ive been doing
sweet summit
hmm
sweet summit
is your druid putting down vortex?
crystal dirge
no
sweet summit
hmmm
crystal dirge
no tar trap either
i see the root icon over her nameplate but she yeets in the middle of it
steep bone
You do need to have avatar up while doing that, right? Or claps wont come off CD fast enough or im wrong
sweet summit
yep
sick sentinel
i am TD 5 today
sweet summit
big lad 
muted heron
ya'll talk about 23under doesnt need versat. But most warriors i see doing early 20s all stack the versat corruption
like i cant really find one going TD
im just skimming 3k r.io range tanks
muted heron
yeah TD coming up tomorrow and im planning to buy it
its just so many of them all stack vers
cause they just follow the top warriors?
still pagoda
Say thanks to all the idiots copying streamers without questioning why
steep bone
streamer's discords are full of such people
sweet summit
15% leech gang
mellow patio
Weak
steep bone
implying that healers on low keys do damage 
sweet summit
yes
mellow patio
41%
sweet summit
am weak
mellow patio
At this point if you aren’t making meme corruption builds what are you doing
steep bone
did someone say leech
mellow patio
Yeah same my druid has all the leech
I cleared m nyalotha on my druid alt one time and got like 4 leech pieces
mellow patio
Never
Am tank
If I play anything other than tank I have to actually think
Now I just get to play perfectly and flame people it’s a dream
still pagoda
fierce juniper
strong forum
now i have all of em but the LFR shield :kekw
novel ruin
First couple days were nice. Yesterday was horrible. Got decent keys. Failed every single 25 or 26 we’ve tried...
sweet summit
novel ruin
We can do them. People just decide to be pepegas
sweet summit
know that feel
sullen valve
Marok is back . I'm going to be old news again
still pagoda
naive barn
Hmm.. fresh toon - want to do m+ - should I focus my energy on leveling up the cloak and fast as possible ?...
sweet summit
probably that and gear(ilvl)
naive barn
Like .. fucking.. this system is dumb :D
Yeah - gear comes automatic when I start chaining m+ I assume...
sweet summit
yeh
naive barn
Any point in grinding specific dungeons or just do whatever ? It seems that buying corruptions for anything but a BIS piece would be retarded at this point.
sweet summit
ilvl>haste>crit is the "stats" you "want"
naive barn
I definitely want the damage thing.. Twilight Devastation :D
sweet summit
yep!
naive barn
Okay, cool. Not much has changed lately I guess
naive barn
Y, I will prioritize it.
But like.. if I have legs at 470 - with a stupid shit trait, or no trait at all - or a 450 piece with TD - what would you choose ?
main vault
Tbh if you are just now starting you should just do what seems fun
This is the last push week and it’s almost over
naive barn
Last week ? Huh .
I just wanna prep as good as I can for shadowlands..
Actually would prefer to play fury, but ... CBA to find groups as fury when it's 20000 times easier as prot
steep bone
Last week as in probably we'll not have another push week, as in super easy affixes which translates into easy push in m+, but if you just want to prepare doing 15s for loot is more than enough
civic rover
teeming quaking is easy but it's teeming+fortified so dungeons will have a lot of HP
probably not a week for super super high keys
steep bone
as long as it's not skittish im happy xD
steep bone
i think i hate skittish the most
steep bone
RETRIBUTION
civic rover
they say "TANK???"
sick sentinel
not a fan of bursting.
steep bone
bursting is aids just on lower keys
civic rover
i just go SOTW major on skittish in pugs
sick sentinel
even tho i timed 2 different 16's this week with it, don't like it
steep bone
healer's there have heartattack if you go over 4stacks
sick sentinel
lock is great for bursting, mage not so much
civic rover
i just dont invite fire mages
sick sentinel
everyone eats cookie after pull, new jar after each boss kill EZ
steep bone
thing is, either kill mobs roughly at the same time or don't extend 5...6...7...12
also people tend to hold cooldowns for nextxpac
civic rover
i'm so sick of shitter fire mages losing their shit when i don't pull around their combust perfectly and they try to tell me how to do the dungeon when their entire job is to just press like four buttons
sick sentinel
well, if u extend 3 at 0 seconds and then it goes to 4 and does all those ticks too, that's why it's a problem
very simple mechanic but unforgiving
civic rover
you should watch yumytvs pug adventure ataldazar
funny video on a bursting week
my gm is a boomkin lol
my old guild
we started progging this tier and got like 9/12M or something
then RL and his wife (the GM) got covid so they stopped prog... almost whole raid team (understandably) left
then it's like
RL, GM, officers, me. we get a bunch of people who've never seen nyalotha, in a month we have all of heroic on one shot farm. thought about going mythic but no one really wanted to
then like 2 months ago someone i raided with in legion was like "hey you tryna tank CE, we have 14 people already with it and just need a tank really", and that's where i am now
sick sentinel
back in lich king, ICC, there was a guild on our server and i guess they were horde and trying to prog, so the entire guild swapped over and we were doing normal or heroic icc, got all the way to sindragosa everyone would die to the ice stacks couldn't kill it and guild wiped
still pagoda
@steep bone you are pushing while i'm looking for 2 DPS for our group
sweet summit
how doable is 27 WS monkaW
sick sentinel
What makes warriors better than paladins at high mythic pluses?
sweet summit
more damage, better mitigation, higher uptime on mititation? spell reflect
warm plinth
Consistent and better damage reduction. Paladins are like paper in higher M+
Relative of course
strong forum
i mean with the right people its very much doable
still pagoda
Consistent and better damage reduction. Paladins are like paper in higher M+
@warm plinth
Not like paper but inconsistent
strong forum
🤷♂️
sweet summit
nah i depleted it to a 26 cos 27 is too scary with a hunter mage and rogue without vers
still pagoda
still looking for one melee DPS to fill out our push group
whatever, it's time to make gathering profession alt for SL
sweet summit
timed a 26 UR @still pagoda
sick sentinel
i need to make a paladin for invincible mining
err. well something like that
gather toon anyhow
Thank you for answers!
steep bone
@still pagoda https://youtu.be/IENjq90b3IQ
still pagoda
found a rogue
guess it will kick off slowly
said to everyone that we should not expect any fast push right away
just slowly building up
steep bone
I mean You still gonna be able to do those 25 keys and such
sharp palm
Guys, do you have stuttering moments in wow? Like when the fight starts, it drops some frames for 1-2 sec
still pagoda
only when i record cause i'm yet to make a complete OBS setup
though such stutters were present only on first test recording
steep bone
@sharp palm Only happens when you have some weak aura that's badly coded or it's too heavy for your PC to handle. Also if you're using Details! with real time update (0.05s) it can also cause stutters.
What's your PC specs?
sharp palm
Ryzen 5 3600 GTX 1660TI 16GB RAM
steep bone
then it's not PC
strong forum
should do some weakaura profiling
steep bone
im having no issues besides like drops to 45fps on bosses like hivemind with same setup but RX580 instead.
It's either weak auras or details as i said, or some other addon
strong forum
its 100% loading too many WAs "in combat"
prolly also alot of "Update every frame" WAs
steep bone
^
sharp palm
I once almost died into a boss pull because of it
main vault
Its not always WA
main vault
Mine was a DirectX issue
steep bone
it's not always but most of the times it'll be weak aura
sharp palm
I normally load the warr WA, specific dungeon WA, potions, interupt tracker stuff like that
I've even updated my WA today
steep bone
what's your dungeon WA?
that big one that contains all dungeons in one group?
if so, get the one that's separated into groups for each dungeon
that big one was causing serious stutters here
sharp palm
no
warm plinth
Join a group, go to a dungeon, right-click your WA icon on your map, and click next combat in the window that pops up, then go hit something.
sharp palm
does it need to be a full group?
warm plinth
no, and the other person doesn't even need to be there
steep bone
you can enter dungeon alone
warm plinth
I just wanted to make sure all your load in group WAs turned on
steep bone
and check which wa's are loaded
sharp palm
I go in siege then
warm plinth
Just kill like a trash pack and then snip it and post here
sharp palm
steep bone
do some dungeon with this turned on as soon as you start dung and check
some auras load in combat
warm plinth
He is in a dungeon and he did fight something :p
steep bone
aye but dunno when it starts stuttering for him
steep bone
warm plinth
Hmm
steep bone
some memory management
one of addons may be causing this problem
but issues with wow stuttering after some time is pretty common, restarting game usually helps
sharp palm
yes, but it started to do this like few days ago
warm plinth
Have you added any WAs in that time frame?
sharp palm
Basically when I started to tank with the warrior
on my pally I didn't had this kind of problems
I've deleted the ZT WA and addon, hopefully it will fix the problem
sharp palm
I'll do a dungeon now and check if it still does the same thing
novel ruin
@sweet summit 26 FH timed and it was with a group looking for a tank lol.
sweet summit
POG
still pagoda
novel ruin
@sweet summit Whenever you tank a new high key for yourself, do you feel like you have imposter syndrome?
sweet summit
a what
Impostor syndrome (also known as impostor phenomenon, impostorism, fraud syndrome or the impostor experience) is a psychological pattern in which an individual doubts their accomplishments or talents and has a persistent internalized fear of being exposed as a "fraud".
this?
novel ruin
yes
@sweet summit Like i know the dungeons and whatnot, but its kinda daunting to go to a new key level and feel like you have to prove that you belong
sweet summit
yeah, always
novel ruin
This group that I just did the FH with were all 4 together, 5.1k io and the mage whispered me beforehand if i talk and if i use discord lol
warm plinth
My thing with going to higher keys as a tank was always like...what if they're used to tanks doing it another way
brittle owl
doing shit way harder than you usually do is normal to be scary
novel ruin
I was until I realized that its the easiest FH week
muted heron
how much corruption can i handle
brittle owl
that's why you work up to stuff in general
muted heron
im at 48
novel ruin
The rogue almost threw the key
brittle owl
up to you @muted heron
brittle owl
it's completely personal prefference
sweet summit
Pulling pack with saber?
warm plinth
The hardest part of FH this week is harpooners lol
brittle owl
59 is usually what most people stop at in most content
warm plinth
Like the only part of the dungeon that requires thought this week
brittle owl
39 if it's difficult/you cba dealing with big eye an hige slow
novel ruin
He drank after we did fear ob, so we missed like 8% there. Died twice on 3rd boss area, messed up ravager pack at end so we had to die and pull a single yellow for rest of count
sweet summit
Ive started going sub 40 again and its actually so much idk, less frustrating
novel ruin
With none of those mistakes we would have timed with like 4min left, turned to 1min left lol
brittle owl
sub 40 eye is small enough that you can basically almost always move out of it
and the damage is unnoticeable
novel ruin
yeah but he shouldnt drink cuz we miss count then
sweet summit
Well if youve planed to get count there obv not, thats true
We inted the 26 WS on last boss
novel ruin
where else are you gonna get count? Going right after 2nd boss instead of left?
We inted 25 WS and 24 WS and 23 UR this week
I actually logged off 2 hours early last night cuz i was so tilted with how the keys went yesterday
sharp rover
Question: how much TD is safe to run in a 23 key?
sweet summit
7
sharp rover
I just did a TD 22 in full vers and I was taking nothing on some pulls, I feel overkill defensively
sweet summit
Or is it 6
sharp rover
7 precludes IT 1
novel ruin
Do 7-10k more dps easy
sweet summit
Im using a 445 ring just because it has leech 😎
strong forum
novel ruin
warm plinth
sweet summit
cinder storm
I've had some dps tell me running 5TD that because I do too much dmg their overall dps is lower keys range 18-21
strong forum
Hah funny cat!
cinder storm
Now i m going to try vers build next week because i m bored
novel ruin
vers is fun in high keys
strong forum
I hate doing 15s cuz I take 0 dmg, now with vers it makes me hate 23/24s cuz I take 0 dmg when my dps are already getting 1shot
novel ruin
just do 26s 4head
strong forum
I should
sweet summit
Make them go vers too :^))
strong forum
I really should
cinder storm
8head
strong forum
But cba bfa anymore
novel ruin
and do all the ticks in UR
sweet summit
Last week of bfa is here
strong forum
All I want is SL, I only do stuff that'll actually stay, aka tmog
still pagoda
All I want is SL, and i don't want target capping to be as thing
cinder storm
We still do fine with td cap amirite?
sweet summit
Just don't think
about it
sharp rover
Is about this level correct for 23?
novel ruin
Get another IT
sweet summit
Yeah sure
cinder storm
2 IT
raven knoll
for 22/23 im full versa + 2x IT right now + nozoth trinket. how much should i swap out for more dmg while not beeing full glasscannon? i feel like i dont get enough dmg and would like to help out more with dmg
sweet summit
At least swap shell vor vita/scale
strong forum
To stop being full glass cannon all you have to do is play good 👍
cinder storm
Tell your healers to adapt
sturdy sable
That's tanking 101 tho
sweet summit
Yep
sweet summit
People are thinking too much
Stop thinking smh
strong forum
But alot of people confuse tankiness with gear
raven knoll
im just saying every pug i join they are very happy if im full versa. but it feels like overkill and i would like to do more dmg
sturdy sable
Mitigate exactly what you need to live and put the rest of your efforts into deeps
raven knoll
before i tanked with mostly TD but ppl didnt seem to like that
strong forum
1st issue is, pug
sweet summit
Who cares about what pugs think
sharp rover
I'm considering running merektha's instead of LPS
sweet summit
You know yourself better than they do
sharp rover
But I think your net survivability and damage output is higher if you run more TD with LPS instead of more vers with Merektha's
strong forum
The beautiful thing with pugs is, they think they need to play full vers, then don't see a problem with pulling 35k overall
When even in full vers gear you can pull 60k+
sweet summit
Should*
strong forum
That's 2 issues combined into 1 stupid idiot
sharp rover
35k overall
As tank or DPS?
pearl summit
I'm consistently in the 75k-80k range in keys as full vers
strong forum
Obv tank
sweet summit
Healer YEP
pearl summit
you don't do shit damage
even if it's kinda boring to not see TD's go bRRRRRRRRRrRRR
sharp rover
80k overall as full vers sounds a little high
sweet summit
With SR its not high
novel ruin
Depending on key level, yeah it does
sharp rover
Unless it's a dungeon with constant massive pulls like ML
pearl summit
74.6k just now in UR 23
strong forum
And thats fine Jontie, but your average 2k-4k prot war does fuck all dmg
sturdy sable
UR can be a little inflated no
sweet summit
Cos of SR
sharp rover
That's pretty big dick
pearl summit
There's always SR to be used for damage
warm plinth
SR isn't really inflating anything. You did actually do that damage.
pearl summit
in most keys
sturdy sable
SR and if he popped off on slugs
novel ruin
If you are full vers, aim for 60k on most dungeons
pearl summit
41 mil clap damage and 14 mil SR
sturdy sable
Its inflation if it's not part of the norm being pedantic here helps no one
sharp rover
Napkin math says I did 68k overall in my last TD after removing cannon blast
warm plinth
It is part of the norm though lol
strong forum
Doing cannons as tank 
pearl summit
if you don't use SR you're doing something weird anyway
I mean come on
it's a busted button, use it as much as you can
sturdy sable
Missed the point
sharp rover
I'm still learning how to tank, please no bully
sweet summit
I know
sharp rover
Are tanks not meant to do cannons?
sweet summit
I am very good at abusing SR
pearl summit
rogue
strong forum
Only in shit groups
pearl summit
if you don't trust anyone else in the group to do cannons
do them yourself
but generally rogue should
unless he didn't play CS:GO ever in his life
sharp rover
cinder storm
nah pug rogues play fortnite nowadays
they hit the back of the pack and think they got it
raven knoll
@pearl summit what trinkets did you run?
rigid sinew
gamer moment
novel ruin
i dont even run LPS in 25/26 keys 😮
pearl summit
generally what I use it for if no avatar either
pearl summit
pretty nice to just keep chain pulling
as it's a pseudo SB
fewer gaps
never kiting
just pull big, afk in the spot until stuff dies and chain more
some keys it results in me being 2nd most healed person in the key
novel ruin
always pull big no matter what
sweet summit
some keys it results in me being 2nd most healed person in the key
What do you mean
pearl summit
some keys I tip the scale around and Alanyo is on top
novel ruin
yeah, in that FH i just did, i did 70% of the healing on myself
pearl summit
depends heavily on key though
usually Atal, FH, UR don't have a lot of tank damage except auto attacks
so there is not much need to heal me
pearl summit
Wall first
last stand trinket and whatever 2nd
bop 3rd for memes
trinket last stand whatever 4th
snipe a big spike with heal pot
just to troll healer more
sweet summit
Well yeah, he still fucks tho
novel ruin
dont press anything and let the wingsing pally heal
pearl summit
I turn my back sometimes
if key level is lower 20s
just to fuck with him
anyone ever feared mobs to cancel something and have them walk just behind you to oneshot you?
did that in the start of my prot war career
raven knoll
how much usage of the shell do i need to have to make it any worth? like is it just used on cd? to get full potential
warm plinth
You need to use it mostly on CD/nearly on CD for it to be worth it
novel ruin
every 60-90 seconds
warm plinth
Like if you use it 5 times in a dungeon, you should've used something else
novel ruin
If you use it 10-15 times in a dungeon, you should have used something else.
limpid pawn
Is that necessarily true though if the used prevented a death?
novel ruin
you dont need it for 22s
raven knoll
ye i just checked i used it around 15x
warm plinth
Well, idk I mean
raven knoll
time to change
warm plinth
It's like if you're a DK running purgatory right
novel ruin
i dont know anything about DK
warm plinth
If you used it and it never procced, it was essentially worthless
But if it saved you once, you could argue it was worth running
sharp rover
And the only time I ever stand inside of a mob is when I'm trying to soak a spell like chemical burn
warm plinth
But considering how warriors work, I'd say that if it saved you, there was probably a misplay involved
raven knoll
it did safe me atleast once but i think if i palyed better i wouldnt have needed it in the first place xd
novel ruin
but if it saved you in a 22, you most likely misplayed cuz you dont need it then
warm plinth
Yeah, like...it's good that it saved you but it should also be a sign that you fucked up and it was just a crutch for you fucking up
novel ruin
@sharp rover You can also stand in KR Whirlwind guys and Siege Pillager to avoid whirlwinds and vicious slobber
warm plinth
Yeah, and slobber especially is really important because it's unavoidable otherwise
Since stunning it just delays the cast
novel ruin
yup
limpid pawn
It does for sure cover mitigation gaps well
novel ruin
yeah but unless your dps are pepega, you dont really have mitigation gaps in low 20 keys.
limpid pawn
I think most blood dks run purgatory btw
novel ruin
and we have a lot of tools to gain us some seconds to regain that mitigation. Charge to an ally, leap, speedpot, AOE stun, Fear
warm plinth
Do they? I thought Bonestorm was the go-to these days. Guess it probably depends on key level though
limpid pawn
I just checked a bunch of dks with 5k+ they had purgatory
steep bone
im concerned about pug dps tbh
warm plinth
Gotcha
sweet summit
i think
strong forum
bonestorm isnt played anymore no
sweet summit
was it more before?
warm plinth
I thought it was 6 like Last Resort in Legion
warm plinth
We timed a 22 FH this week too
steep bone
@still pagoda 23 here 😄
warm plinth
We got a 24 FH after 2-chesting a 22 JY but uh
We did not time it 😅
It was like 8:47 over
novel ruin
😦
warm plinth
We got a 23 TD out of it which I feel pretty good about
sweet summit
warm plinth
Damn, nice. What key?
sweet summit
freehold
sweet summit
warm plinth
ty
sweet summit
yes sorry i am bad at this game
sweet summit
is that the atal flame thing?
still pagoda
RP is so slowwwww
sweet summit
😂
grave lily
druid too, no fat mount excuse
still pagoda
@steep bone @sweet summit back on track boiiiis
steep bone
@still pagoda
sweet summit
no
rigid sinew
lament trout
Hey guys, i came back to wow couple months ago. I used to raid back in cataclysm but things have changed so much since then. I found myself a new guild and currently we are progressing on mythic carapace. This fight just shows how badly im struggling to aggro all the little mobs unless TD procs. Is the only way to use the mass taunt essence or is there another simple solution that i obviously missed?
ionic fern
If you have rogues/hunters you can also ask them for tricks (if the enemies are out of your range).
But in general aggro is not a thing indeed.
🙂
sand turret
how do I solo the elemental in shrine properly? We tried it in a 21, and our healer dispelled the second shock, and then he never cast shock on me again
strong forum
everybody but yourself has to line 24/7
sand turret
got it, so the dispell brought the healer in to agro and screwed it up?
sweet summit
i wanna say yes
strong forum
yes and no, its hella wonky
sweet summit
sometimes he fucks things
sand turret
hm
sick sentinel
pulling after the first obelisk in ML is scuffed too
normally can handle it easy 2 robots, but depends on group
solemn venture
doing a 25 WCM, how do i deal with the Raal passageway spits from the maggots? Either I get cucked hard w/ CD's rolling and our dps get recked. We even have a DH using meld to try to take some of the spits but they just keep spamming that. do we just have to coordinate stuns and just pray?
sand turret
you can try to reflect the first batch if the rest of the group is los'd
strong forum
kill them before they kill you, also you can line the first time you pull them away from group and SR them
sick sentinel
kill them before they kill you
@strong forum
wow in a nutshell
solemn venture
thanks, shit hits so hard. will try that
wary beacon
XD
sweet summit
u dont need any vers
strong forum
0% 👍
wary beacon
rly?
sweet summit
yes
wary beacon
lol
strong forum
if anyone tells you otherwise theyre bad
wary beacon
when u need to start to have ver?
strong forum
23ish 24ish
wary beacon
hmm and how much u need then?
sweet summit
depends
strong forum
whatever makes you feel comfortable
ionic fern
There is no set amount on it.
wary beacon
lets say min ?
sweet summit
0%
strong forum
theres no min
wary beacon
XD
strong forum
besides 0
ionic fern
You can literally do 23-24 with 0 vers as well.
strong forum
theres so many factors as to why you could die
wary beacon
true
strong forum
and gear will be the least issue
playing better will always net better results
people have done 26/27s without vers gear
wary beacon
i see..
strong forum
the biggest survival gain in the game is playing properly
wary beacon
any good mob guides for high keys?
strong forum
and not just you, your group as well, you need to coordinate everything
playing a lot is the best guide
sweet summit
experience is the name of that guide
strong forum
the secret to high keys is playing 15hrs a days
strong forum
like, the most ridiculous example of experience is DrJay playing his shaman tbh
dude heals like 5 keys a season as shaman
ionic fern
That's more of a example about "i play with good people who don't mong".
distant crystal
"...and are kind enough to carry my shaman"
strong forum
so he doesnt have to heal or play around mistakes
but its baffling what difference it makes being experienced and playing with experienced people
execution is key
strong forum
ya it is
wary beacon
wow
strong forum
you dont get what i mean
what i mean is, you play 22s and have your healer complain that he doesnt meet the output requirement
and then you see a 27 on a dude that hardly plays said healer and they survive everything
which in turn, tilts me
strong forum
save it.
wary beacon
this is what u call a "Close Call"
strong forum
hah! just like the boss mechanic, i get it
royal rune
steep bone
@still pagoda any pushers?
still pagoda
tomorrow
we have +23ML
and maybe few keys to reroll to something better
this is what u call a "Close Call"
@wary beacon
@steep bone
sweet summit
i just had the cleanest pug ill probably ever have
holy shit
0 death waycrest 25 with like 6 minutes left
still pagoda
+25 pugs are not really pugs already
steep bone
can u stop having same keys as me @still pagoda i literally have 24ml
distant crystal
i have 25ml
sweet summit
so close
distant crystal
and ML is my worst IO dungeon
the dream
it's not possible for me to scuff this hard enough to not be huge IO
still pagoda
we decided to roll few other keys to +23
maybe we'll get something better
but technically +23ML is on the table
sick sentinel
motherlode is easy as hell this week
lots of easy ones it seems, i did TOS and work shop on 16's 1 chest
sweet summit
Nice dude
sick sentinel
someone has a 26 siege on NA east
needs a tank, thought someone could b interested since big pumpers here
sweet summit
NA 
still pagoda
motherlode is easy as hell this week
@sick sentinel
@sweet summit @steep bone ya guys pushing big keys while i'm only starting to catch up
we have literally optimized our rogue in a matter of 5 minutes between +21UR and +22FH
from being below tank to being on par with Spriest and DPS warr
gonna plan ML route for tomorrow
sweet summit
Thats pog
still pagoda
and go to bed
steep bone
steep bone
look at this sots/ad ;___;
distant crystal
steep bone
we've 24 ml, 22tos and 25fh but no way ill tank fh XD
still pagoda
we have 2 20's, 21 ML, 23 ML and 19 WS after another #LateNightKey(turboscuffed 20SotS)
steep bone
maybe ill get close to 3.7 tommorow
still pagoda
maybe i will even get anywhere tomorrow
distant crystal
shrine is such a bitch because we usually don't scuff it until the end
need a WA that yells "LOOK AT YOUR FEET" when the tendies go out
still pagoda
exactly
steep bone
ive had mage in 23fh who was like 'woah td in 23, id go full versa'
;_________________________;
sick sentinel
go full versa for clout
steep bone
like i alrdy have shitton of versa from cns/aegis XD
sick sentinel
if you haven’t hit the 1 dam breakpoint don’t talk to me
sweet summit
Gotta pump that leech
steep bone
70versa for 20s or gtfo from my grp scrub
sick sentinel
healing parses in dungeons 🥴
sweet summit
Dungeon parses
sick sentinel
my speed set has 300 speed atm
still pagoda
Dungeon parses [2]
steep bone
sick sentinel
i’m fast as fuck
sweet summit
ZOOM
steep bone
you dont want to be fast in fucking tho
sweet summit
Catch me if u can 🏃
sweet summit
Wtf is sex
sick sentinel
ppl don’t understand what vers is for
generally
that’s why there’s such hype around it
steep bone
Wtf is sex [2]
sick sentinel
it’s just a mitigation coefficient but people take it to be like a 24/7 psychic shell in obelisk
steep bone
they think that people are dying in keys because they've no vers. They're dying to their mistakes, like no way vers gonna keep someone alive on 10mob pull when they drop mitigation
still pagoda
^
steep bone
steep bone
they can't kick you once key started
still pagoda
Double the value
steep bone
steep bone
im gonna get that
cuz ima scrub
and i need vers to carry my ass
like ive heard ppl telling me im not gonna do keys im doing cuz ive no vers set
i got once called B00STED
grand drum
Imagine having vers on your gear
steep bone
imagine not having leech on your gear but vers
mellow patio
Did someone say leech?
steep bone
isnt full leech pwar like bdk but better?
still pagoda
like ive heard ppl telling me im not gonna do keys im doing cuz ive no vers set
@steep bone
Man, 90% of keys i'm getting either declined or kicked out "cuz no vers scrub"
sweet summit
what the fuck is running away
still pagoda
alongside haste
steep bone
https://tenor.com/view/theoffice-michaelscott-stevecarell-oops-gif-5026723 running away from things
steep bone
tbh
im giga afraid of third boss in ml on 24
XD
ill be giga pissed if we get there smoothly and then hit a wall
distant crystal
can you reflect back to back with 2xIT1 proc
steep bone
Hmm, full IT build?
steep bone
would it worth to go out of dung and swap to lucid major for that boss?
sweet summit
Its worth if you have time xD
distant crystal
and the duration of IT is 10sec so
sweet summit
Depends on timer tbh
distant crystal
steep bone
because ive been thinking about it tbh
sweet summit
Lucid major and null minor kinda helps
steep bone
ive only r2 null 😭
distant crystal
port out and go null major max IT max leech
still pagoda
ive only r2 null 😭
@steep bone
Same
steep bone
but i could farm r3 on mage
still pagoda
distant crystal
Poggers
sweet summit
The fuck does null major even do
steep bone
give u some bullshit shell i think
distant crystal
also removes debuff
sweet summit
Oh
still pagoda
steep bone
so bois
sweet summit
Whats the cooldown on it?
sweet summit
Hecc ye
steep bone
bring snacks
distant crystal
sweet summit
Ouch
steep bone
its like having a dwarf in your pocket to abuse it for racial
still pagoda
Trash
distant crystal
the big barrier deals the dmg when it gets burned like the small one
sweet summit
Ooh
distant crystal
i feel like it could actually pump dps on those two bosses lol
steep bone
its 2;3min cooldown tho
sick sentinel
dwarf can remove bleeds
sick sentinel
DI dwarf can remove magic i think
sweet summit
Dwarf and dark dwarf can remove the same things
distant crystal
oh yeah the major is actually a lot less dps than the minor
sweet summit
Any bleed/dot basically
steep bone
but dark iron gets main stat from removing
distant crystal
major is 1848dps
steep bone
distant crystal
minor is 5076
ionic fern
10 iirc
distant crystal
10% phys
sweet summit
Oh
distant crystal
which i guess would reduce the rezan bleed even tho it doesn't remove
sweet summit
Aye, good point
steep bone
👉 🚪
still pagoda
@steep bone WUT
i just realized my best waycrest was sanguine quaking week
@distant crystal
My first +22 was on Sanguine Grievous week
with zero vers
steep bone
how could you do over +15 with no vers 
steep bone
i gotta report that to blizzard, that seems impossible, according to raider(dot)io all warriors are playing full versa with 1IT, and you're doing content with full TD, can you explain yourself from your hacks young man?
still pagoda
just skipped another key boost at nova
wtf
i gotta report that to blizzard, that seems impossible, according to raider(dot)io all warriors are playing full versa with 1IT, and you're doing content with full TD, can you explain yourself from your hacks young man?
@steep bone
steep bone
waaaifu
distant crystal
everyone sorta move together and bait the spiders in the same direction
still pagoda
^
distant crystal
and occasionally swapping directions can help sorta rustle them up
steep bone
You can guide them to stack first images on KR entrance
Speed gear and run away the entire fight
@grand drum who's gonna kick then
distant crystal
and don't let anybody convince you they should immune and run through a bunch of them
grand drum
I didnt think that far ahead
wary beacon
@distant crystal everyone said doing it XD
still pagoda
wary beacon
Can we rate the top 3 mythic+ dps for melee and range ?, want to know ur thoughts
steep bone
dh rogue hunter mage?
still pagoda
Spriest
dh rogue hunter mage?
@steep bone
Too much meta
get on board the Spriest train
and embrace the tentacle hentai of voidform
novel ruin
Rogue, fire mage, hunter are the meta comp
steep bone
i see you've changed your avatar @still pagoda
novel ruin
Switch hunter with Dh or 2nd fire mage depending on dungeon
still pagoda
i see you've changed your avatar @still pagoda
@steep bone
Hifumi is Hifumi]
The Totality of the Cinnamon Roll
wary beacon
No pala ?
sick sentinel
steep bone
gratz
sick sentinel
these are the keys i've done so far
still pagoda
Gz
novel ruin
@wary beacon Paladins are not considered Meta as a Melee
Their burst can be really good with wings and a mastery build
steep bone
paladins are whack outside of wings tho
distant crystal
WoG tho
novel ruin
yup, especially if they go mastery build
steep bone
and they outaggro you with their burst
wary beacon
steep bone
@still pagoda play horizon zero dawn or no
distant crystal
yeah but at least mobs have to walk to the mage usually
rets and dhs just go splat
still pagoda
@still pagoda play horizon zero dawn or no
@steep bone
No until they fix this mess of a PC port
daring marlin
ret masterful stacked is just a budget melee fire mage with less damage
steep bone
if you restart game ive heard memory leak is fixed ish
daring marlin
but shorter cd kick :^)
sick sentinel
i keep using engineer plague bombs, big green cloud, does dmg each second or so
steep bone
who needs kicks if you've 1m+ fire mage killing before kick is needed
still pagoda
Bruh we didn't account for need in optimization when moving from shared GGDR5 to 2 buffers of GDDR5-VRAM+DDR4-RAM @steep bone
sick sentinel
doesn't do alot of dmg, but usually does enough to maintain some aggro
steep bone
is it even worth using gcd for that
sick sentinel
not really no lol
still pagoda
it is still a laggy mess that will work only on top PCs with 2080 and good ram
Though no one canceled RAM overclocking
steep bone
gonna just hardlock fps at 24 to have that console quality experience
still pagoda
even the most crappy Micron RAM chips can take 3200
gonna just hardlock fps at 24 to have that console quality experience
Exactly
The whole "quality" of Gen 7 consoles
the one tech that allows consoles to run anything is shared buffer with 16 gigs of GDDR5 on board as both RAM and VRAM
and when making ports to PC, this should be accounted for
as bandwidth of this one buffer is much bigger than your typical DDR4 RAM dropping info onto another buffer and VRAM
steep bone
it can be laggy ill still play it, as soon as ive seen trailers on ps i wanted but i cba buying consoles tbh.
Remember Gothic3, that game was most messy buggy bs Piranha ever created and i still played religiously on my godlike nvidia6200 with 2 cores athlon xD
still pagoda
the whole thing with massive decrease in drawcalls and good bandwidth is the only thing keeping PS4 Pro and Xbox One X from dying when launching such games like HZD and Ghost of Tsushima
or any other modern projects
steep bone
wait
still pagoda
it can be laggy ill still play it, as soon as ive seen trailers on ps i wanted but i cba buying consoles tbh.
Remember Gothic3, that game was most messy buggy bs Piranha ever created and i still played religiously on my godlike nvidia6200 with 2 cores athlon xD
@steep bone
Say this to my father and me playing Starcraft Brood War till SC2 released
steep bone
I THOUGHT U TYPED TLOU2
still pagoda
it was a blast
I THOUGHT U TYPED TLOU2
TLOU2 is overhyped IMHO. Compared to the first part that was a good looking game with great storytelling and an actually great anti-hero and grey morale
it is nothing
for its time of course
steep bone
every single argument if you say that you dislike it is "because of someone's attracted to same gender there?!"
but we kinda changed topic too much, this is still protection channel
still pagoda
the only 2 games were grey morale was shown clearly without ever talking about it were first TLOU and WC3
steep bone
but mods doesn't see
still pagoda
every single argument if you say that you dislike it is "because of someone's attracted to same gender there?!"
The biggest problem is not "same gender attraction" which kinda isn't even a problem, but how badly story is made itself
a good lesbian character arc can be found in The Outer Worlds
while also boasting Fallout New Vegas style storytelling and overall feel
but mods doesn't see
@steep bone
Too occupied playing EU4*
steep bone
shadowlands
steep bone
can't blame, wow is giga boring
still pagoda
just as you can see me bashing my head against the SC2 WoL campaign on brutal
steep bone
if i didn't do keys i'd just log to rekill nzoth
still pagoda
if i didn't do keys i'd just log to get my first kill of nzoth next Wednesday and then relog to kill every week
[2]
steep bone
Zergs campaing
still pagoda
Terran campaign(Wings of Liberty) is actually really hard on brutal
steep bone
oh i just like homans and zergs, but zergs more
still pagoda
fucks you in the ass and says BUILD BUNKERS BITCH all the time
steep bone
however terrans feels like draeneis which are my crush so dunno what to think
still pagoda
oh i just like homans and zergs, but zergs more
My father was a higher plat terran player back in WoL times
steep bone
weebs out
still pagoda
i played terran in gold back in HotS
steep bone
I dont do any obelisk with last boss in kr
obtuse yoke
also, do you need to safeguard intervene people with spit gold on 1st boss?
obtuse yoke
i got blamed for ppl dying to spit gold because i didnt safe guard intervene
and one guy was like "you're dumb for not doing tank buster with last boss"
steep bone
i got blamed for ppl dying to spit gold because i didnt safe guard intervene
@obtuse yoke did they used any cds health pots etc?
novel ruin
I always do blob and depending on key level, may do spider and blob
and safeguard is very good for KR
Helps with First and 3rd boss
and random trash
steep bone
Blob&spider ez time save with bosses
novel ruin
but you never do tank buster
steep bone
If we re on safegyard topić
novel ruin
tank buster with blade combo, your dead lol
steep bone
Is it worth intercepting allies in ur on spiders when they fixate them?
still pagoda
RIP Tankivac 2016-2017
Fun didn't live for long @steep bone
best unit combo blizz have ever added IMO
steep bone
I mean without safeguard
steep bone
I was doing that but dunno if it actually helps even tiny bit
novel ruin
you are usually tanking 4-7 mobs at a time with a swarmer so would have to be careful about showing your back
steep bone
After first boss i pulled two flowers on top of tripple blob and took two extra blobs from boss room, then chained spider with worm on top of tripple flower pack
still pagoda
the most success i've found in countering swarmers is to stack every other mob on top of them and CC chain alongside having spare 3-4 short CD stuns or gouge for maggot
steep bone
Conflict major and rooting spiders tho
hushed cobalt
Intercept swarmer's target x2, and if the person dies it's on them 🤠
obtuse yoke
also they ran the spit gold all the way to gong
so they obviously didn't play around intervene if they even wanted me to do it
novel ruin
it ticks every 3sec
sick sentinel
the cenarion ward is why he died fwiw
novel ruin
thats enough time for the druid to cast regrowth x2 or regrowth and swiftmend
thats a healer mechanic
obtuse yoke
its only a 23 i feel like if you bark + healthstone yourself and still die it's your fault
sick sentinel
should have been regrowth spamming with the gcd it takes to cast cenward
obtuse yoke
but it all got blamed on me
novel ruin
23 KR is super tough
steep bone
lol
novel ruin
thats like doing a 25 in any other key
steep bone
rdruid should prehot himself
sick sentinel
he didn’t lifebloom himself
obtuse yoke
i came here to see if i was in the wrong or not
steep bone
like worst case scenario he can ask for darkness if he has or something
sick sentinel
running away from the tank and screaming “why aren’t you intercepting me” is absolutely pepega
steep bone
full hot+efflo+bark+bear form and no way he can die on forti first boss 23 kr xD
obtuse yoke
it was a pretty toxic group
sick sentinel
druid has anyone but me syndrome
obtuse yoke
@novel ruin would you safeguard intervene on 23 kr