protection

[buoyant walrus]

there was one point on a boss fight i prob should have wiped to save time but just went for the solo kill with healer...lol

[distant crystal]

the answer to most protwarr problems...more claps!

[steep bone]

[shadow bay]

srsly though, triple deafening crash for m+

or should i put one brace for impact among them

[ionic fern]

Put one BfI among them.

[shadow bay]

clap is the main source of damage

but some block? -.-

[ionic fern]

And ST damage.

[shadow bay]

[buoyant walrus]

@ionic fern just watched part of the video as i was uploading and a lot of missed claps....

[ionic fern]

Keep on recording tho, it's a good way to improve if you analyze it afterwards.

[strong forum]

Triple deafening crash hasn't been a thing for 2 seasons and even then it wasn't amazing

There's better options, you only want 1 deafening crash, then you'd want stats like clockwork heart or heart of darkness

[orchid frigate]

can buy a new specific azerite piece but not sure what to go for, chest or shoulders and which ones :s

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/doomhammer/mogguh

guess mechanized plate chasse would be a minor upgrade?

[steep bone]

if you have acces to mythic skitra then her shoulders are bis, vex chest is bis too if you are clearing, and abyssal malovelence head from sots

[orchid frigate]

have mythic skitra shoulders

and abyssal helm

[steep bone]

oh

go for chest

sec

[orchid frigate]

gonna change brace for impact to CH then

[steep bone]

I think it was mechagon chest that was good, but i might be wrong

aye it has clockwork bom and op

[orchid frigate]

sweet

[steep bone]

but im just pleb warrior, wait for confirmation of my words by one of big boys here

[orchid frigate]

i'm sure theyll agree 🙂

looks like no one is bothered with brace for impact anymore anyway so even if it isn't an upgrade it doesnt matter. havent much to spend residuum on anyway

[ionic fern]

Mechagon chest is good yes.

[placid oar]

Good day all, can I ask if it is worth trying to get a mythic n’zoth helm over the abyssal malevolence helm if I’m just tanking for m+?

[brittle owl]

CWH slaps

[strong forum]

Abyssal Malevolence is ultra bis

[brittle owl]

ultra

[strong forum]

Bis

[ionic fern]

.

[steep bone]

can i go leech build now

[undone sun]

[sweet summit]

Leech AND VERS?!?!?! thats gotta be super ultra bis

[steep bone]

traded to hpala

[sweet summit]

[steep bone]

[ionic fern]

Give

Please.

[sweet summit]

$5 and a 6 pack of nuggets

Deal?

[strong forum]

I'll pass, gimme the SL combo tho

But double the prot sauce

[sweet summit]

The brown or the pink sauce?

[strong forum]

Brown obv

[steep bone]

Is there some spreadsheet showing what's great to reflect like those robots in workshop?

because that was actually insane

[steep bone]

thanks

so its actually not that much

im not gonna count spider pillar etc

[ionic fern]

The full list/dungeons etc is in #268491842637660160 Blockable/Reflectable sheet.

[steep bone]

aye that i know, was just curious which ones are doing such crazy stuffs

like that elemental in shrine that pwar can solo, but i think that worths only on higher keys as on lower dmg is not that big??

[faint ledge]

Been wondering about this for ages: how does rallying cry interact with bursting?

[strong forum]

It makes it so you take more dmg from bursting 👍

[faint ledge]

Thought so... had warriors in keys say the opposite though so got confused

[strong forum]

But if you use it on the last tick it increases health more than it would dmg

So it can save a life

[faint ledge]

aight cheers

[sweet summit]

Goodbye friend

[orchid frigate]

what week is it in FH?

[sweet summit]

Rauul+jolly
Raoul?
Raool?
Raoul?

[orchid frigate]

and event?

[sweet summit]

So should be drinking?

[orchid frigate]

sweet

bestest event

[ionic fern]

What are the affixes this week even?

[orchid frigate]

bursting and vulcanos

[ionic fern]

Nice.

[orchid frigate]

mhm

[sweet summit]

This is a gamer week

Only gamers allowed

[atomic fulcrum]

how bad is mechagon shield ?

[sweet summit]

Worst shield in the game at equal ilvl

But is an upgrade if ilvl is higher

[atomic fulcrum]

it will be worse than vers crit 460 ilvl?

when its ilvl is 475

[sweet summit]

Nonono

Big upgrade

Ilvl is king

[sick sentinel]

i got mythic nzoth ring

just came to brag

[sweet summit]

Poog

[steep bone]

30% vers(vers7), td3, 2x it. Lucid major. Conflict, Aegis, Vop minor. Yay or nay for 22kr?

[sick sentinel]

overkill for 22 kr

[brittle owl]

mystic

[sweet summit]

No aegis

KR like 2 mob dungeon

[sick sentinel]

remember versx is meaningless

different ranks give different %

[steep bone]

im trash player tho

[sweet summit]

Mood

Id take sphere over aegis

[sick sentinel]

sotw gamer for corruption resistance

[steep bone]

im at 39 corruption with that set

😄

[sick sentinel]

i'm at 39 with 5x vers3 1x lash 1x td

i feel u

[sweet summit]

Lash

Hmmm

[steep bone]

@sweet summit dont have sphere ;_;

[sick sentinel]

veng player btw

sphere owns if u like haste

u only need r2

[sweet summit]

R1

[sick sentinel]

nah r2

[sweet summit]

Why?

Speed?

[sick sentinel]

duration inc

[brittle owl]

?

[sick sentinel]

5 -> 7

[brittle owl]

you have 100% uptime anyway

[sick sentinel]

ah ye

[sweet summit]

Ya

[sick sentinel]

I forgot prot warriors don't have to move

oops

[sweet summit]

😂

[sick sentinel]

balanced spec

had it too good for too long

cy@ in shadowlands

[sweet summit]

Bye bye

[sick sentinel]

o7 prot warrior

[brittle owl]

🤷‍♂️ other tanks don't need to kite that much either

[sick sentinel]

depends on gluttony procs

lol

[brittle owl]

so it's kinda the same thing

no, not really

[sick sentinel]

yes really

[brittle owl]

other tanks need to plan better, sure

but currently it's not really a case that you need to kite alot

[sick sentinel]

u cannot plan around your healer not having sac and you having no AM because your spec is 10000% dependent on rng procs for active mit

u run away

that is your plan

[brittle owl]

1. you can track you healer not having sack
2. you have a manual meta and LR meta to play around
3. if thats an issue you run ftd and have 90% spikes uptime and are unkillable

so no, you don't need to kite

same thought process for other tanks

[sick sentinel]

you run ftd

you run ftd

you run ftd

you run ftd

ok nice talking to you xd

[brittle owl]

its just more rigid and less flexible than warrior

[sick sentinel]

relevant talent btw

[brittle owl]

right

would bash, but idgaf educating you

would be cool if you stopped talking about shit you're clueless about

[ionic fern]

We VDH discord now.

[sick sentinel]

it's 2 tilde

either side

[brittle owl]

cba

[sick sentinel]

like this ~~like this~~

[steep bone]

actually this is better

[sweet summit]

Sky🅱️old

[strong forum]

Ngl this exchange was kinda cringe

[sweet summit]

Sorry

[strong forum]

Na not you

The conversation should've ended at 5x vers3 as vdh

Wait where did skybold go, seems I'm in the wrong disc

[sick sentinel]

as you can see i did a similiar thing with this and the asmon discord past few days

i seperated the 2 icons so it won't happen

[strong forum]

(I was making a joke based on skyhold being named skybold for a few hours/days and see if anybody would notice)

[sweet summit]

I miss skybold

Was way better than skyhold

[sick sentinel]

i noticed hut i didn't want to say anything wasn't sure it was a thing or not

i attempted to do either 1 or 2 15 keys for weekly, but then i remembered it was bursting week

FML

or rather, i saw the effects of it first hand, like hearing about vs being in/seeing a car accident

2 total fucking opposite sides of the planet

[orchid frigate]

im afraid of the attendants in shrine 😦

[sick sentinel]

guys? 😦

its bad ye?

i'll probably attempt to get carried again

[sweet summit]

That is the beat trinket in the game for big aoe damage

But also monkaW to use if youre not comfortable

Since you csnt dodge/block/parry during thr channel

[sick sentinel]

so 15-20 dungeons?

[sweet summit]

But shockwave->fang works fine

[sick sentinel]

so i need binding shot something?

i got carried through TD by some illidan folks premade, yelled at me to move out of tank buster 😦 died on SQ 300~ish trap 180k melee get rezzd use SW, got full stun right before crossfire on korgus, let cannoneer die, pulled too many yellows in td again

is it used for MDI right?

[sweet summit]

Yea, so?

[strong forum]

You can pair shockwave with it if you want to make it work

[sick sentinel]

was this yea so to me?

[sweet summit]

Yes

[ionic fern]

Inbound:"Targets DR'ed".

[sweet summit]

Idk what youre trying to say

[sick sentinel]

no i just asking^^

[sweet summit]

Ah

[sick sentinel]

i wasnt sure

are engineer bombs worth using for aggro purpose?

the big green stink one

[ionic fern]

Aggro's not a issue tho.

[sick sentinel]

with wich should i switch ? vita 460 or physic shell 470 + socket

it does 3k/s or so per target, might be useful for me to put them down when i know aggro will be hairy

[strong forum]

I mean...

Or just press your buttons

Cuz grenade has a cast time

Just use both vita and shell nicon

Merekthas is mainly for memes

[sick sentinel]

@sick sentinel my gf is hunter and i got allways Misdirection

i think the most ideal would be to attempt to pre-cast it out of combat if anything

i never touched nya on this guy at all lmao

Merekthas is mainly for memes
@strong forum 😦

i got 2 nya H trinkets and they are both garbages

i got these, + a rezan 460, UR mastery trinket 475

i got them from weekly turtle H quest box thing

go for vita and shell

😛

i would want to get all the trinkets just to screw around with them

M wrath is high up on list if i ever go to nya, my new guild does prog on m nya i think, i think they are doing bugs and maybe vex?

[sweet summit]

Vita scale gang

[steep bone]

did anyone say vita

[strong forum]

Doesn't have leech

Trash

[steep bone]

yikers

did someone say leech

[orchid frigate]

do i have to los the mini blobs in workshop now with bursting (+20)?

[sick sentinel]

crit + haste 475 vs crit + mastery 465 + socket, whats better?

[strong forum]

Depends on the slot

Wrists and belt yes

[sick sentinel]

ring

[strong forum]

Then the 475

Cuz you can buy sockets anyway

And using a ring without haste baseline is big int

But you can always sim

[sick sentinel]

how do i sim tank? also just DPS?

[strong forum]

Ya

For anything but high keys you just go Max dps

[sick sentinel]

okay sir! ty

[sweet summit]

@orchid frigate uhh yeah, why would you not LoS

[orchid frigate]

its cozy to just stand there 🙂

[sweet summit]

Actually true

[split portal]

460 scale or 475 eye?

[sweet summit]

Prob scale, but sim

[orchid frigate]

why do people wanna declare that they just wanna "roll a spliff" and similar while going quick afk?

[strong forum]

To give an estimate on how long they can be expected to be gone

[orchid frigate]

ah

i have no idea how long that takes

[strong forum]

It's just a cigarette or a joint

Or w/e of the sorts

[icy harness]

We had a guy in our raid who worked as a firefighter, and he was like "be right back guys, I'm called on duty"

He never came online again

Since then

Midraid

[orchid frigate]

heh

[autumn pendant]

[strong forum]

F

[autumn pendant]

🔥

[brittle owl]

:(

this is actually very sad

[icy harness]

Now, we don't know if he's ded

He's just gone

But not forgotten

[woven trellis]

so hm, how bad is Modular platinum plating

[sweet summit]

The worst

[woven trellis]

good good

nice weekly chest

[sweet summit]

Sadge

[woven trellis]

lets be sad

[sweet summit]

Always

[woven trellis]

the more u have expectations

the more eu are disapointed

i guess

[brittle owl]

no chest no sadness

[woven trellis]

and then a chest without bastion of might

worst wednesday

chestpiece is bad in Arm and in Pve

cool cool

[ionic fern]

Just open your chest in Fury/Arms..unless you need the 1h/Shield.

[woven trellis]

yeah i need a 1h

[orchid frigate]

incredible, all pieces ive gotten from the chest last weeks has been haste/mastery

[uneven fern]

I got crit versa >.>

[orchid frigate]

i angered a mage by not picking up aggro on all adds on spider obelisk 😦

im used to group just running

[brittle owl]

fuck mages

who cares

[orchid frigate]

🤷‍♂️

but but

everything in a key revolves around them

[brittle owl]

not if you decline them

[still pagoda]

everything in a key revolves around them
@orchid frigate

No if your mage is 1 minute simp

But amount of lucid mages in pugs is enormous sadly

[steep bone]

[dark warren]

the mage in my group just tag along cuz the other 2 dps pump too much dps right now for 19 keys kek

"i cant even comb properly"

every pull

[still pagoda]

@steep bone you're at least pushing rb

[steep bone]

maan

my sb dropped

for 1s

i died 💔

gonna upload on yt tho

[still pagoda]

Welcome to +22

My first +22 FH was in the same style

[steep bone]

yee i didnt know wtf is going on

but was cool

[still pagoda]

bro. You've got a good group at least. My first 2 keys with the guys i'm currently thinking of continuing went kinda badly

[steep bone]

i mean

[still pagoda]

and they were only 20's

[steep bone]

ive guildies

😄

[still pagoda]

all my guildies are already either in push groups

[steep bone]

i mean they carry kinda

[still pagoda]

or some just not doing keys

we have overload of M+ tanks

and i'm late to get any piece from this cake

[steep bone]

just show them you're better

[still pagoda]

my maximum timed key is +22 and i had only 2 successful +22 runs so far

my co-tank did nearly all dungs in +22/23

and another tank(who plays ret in raids cause cba raid tanking) is 4.5k rio

[steep bone]

rip

[still pagoda]

RIP weekly chest

[steep bone]

[still pagoda]

time for monk box

i don't need Jess

due to already having better options

[steep bone]

i got pepega boots

but might be gud for vers

set

and i actually got giga head from vendor, but for arms >.>

[still pagoda]

WHY

[steep bone]

[still pagoda]

another DH piece to cleanse

[steep bone]

nice infinite stars man

[still pagoda]

@steep bone yours at least grows

i'm stuck at 3268 for now

[sweet summit]

👀

[steep bone]

ye cuz ez week

i was stuck at 2.8k for so long

[still pagoda]

i dunno how it will go for me

[steep bone]

time to boost my score a bit and deplete join pug keys to get even moar score

[still pagoda]

i've got some kind of guys from 2.6k asking me whether i'm in search or not

these same peeps were somewhat fine that night we've done 2 keys

but UR still went badly

[steep bone]

don't tell me

we gunna try that 23

;_;

[still pagoda]

don't tell me

+20 UR from last Sunday

i've done with that group

i've had successful UR runs myself

never on +22/23 though

[steep bone]

remember when i tried to get 17-19UR?

xD

that mark of UR depletos is still on me

[still pagoda]

ah

yea

on the next day: Gets DPS and healer from random chat on warrior discord and gets it timed

[steep bone]

i've just 19 timed so if that 23 somehow gonna be timed it'll be GIGA upgrade

i tried with erga and dunno if i pepega'd or somneone else but we also depleted

xD

[sweet summit]

👀

[ionic fern]

You diddn't have me healing.

That's why you depleted.

[steep bone]

@still pagoda you're being roasted

[still pagoda]

[steep bone]

@ionic fern got anything nice from weekly?

[ionic fern]

No.

Some pointless things.

My damn shaman got the leech that i needed.

😦

[brittle owl]

You diddn't have me healing.

is this bandage warrior speaking

[strong forum]

Wait you can get nice things from weekly chest?

[ionic fern]

Apparently not.

[strong forum]

Ya was about to say

[steep bone]

im getting dogshit items for like 3-4 weeks alrdy

[brittle owl]

i have the best chests

for 2+ months

it's a steady stream of value

legit havent looted a single bad item

[sweet summit]

Cant loot a bad item if you dont loot

[brittle owl]

i wonder when this cunty bragging will wear off

shows no sign of stopping yet

[tawdry dirge]

what entchants u guys going with?

[sweet summit]

Huh?

[steep bone]

i mean if you equip benthic everytime you open weekly you get only upgrades

https://tenor.com/view/iq-smart-think-about-it-in-here-smile-gif-14369127

[sweet summit]

Haste and force multi

[tawdry dirge]

even if u have some versa % ?

[sweet summit]

Just some? Yeah

[brittle owl]

if you run pillow suit you change to vers nav yes

you can very easily make a comparison between them

see how much stats you gain from one vs the other, taking into account the amps

if the delta is massive, theres your answer

[tawdry dirge]

true

[potent bear]

gushing wound any good? if want to put on a low corruption for more damage and threat

[steep bone]

one gushing doesnt do much damage

[tawdry dirge]

get one IT rank 1

thats also low corruption and pretty nice

[steep bone]

get one IT rank 1
@tawdry dirge Unless you already have 2x it1

[tawdry dirge]

hehe ye

[mystic finch]

hello! my group started to push 20s last night and we struggled on UR, specifically with bloodswarmers in the 2nd boss' room. is there any particular way to split the pulls there and to deal with swarmers? we're fairly new to pushing keys

[sweet summit]

Dont pull more than 1 at a time

Cc and kite them

Or spam hibernate

[strong forum]

Legit have only looted 2 good items total this season

From weekly

[grand drum]

If you move more than a certain range they charge to you, so you have to kite with them a little close but still out of melee range

[sweet summit]

binding is kinda epic if u have a hunter

[strong forum]

Their charge also has a CD

[sweet summit]

@ionic fern

[steep bone]

what is that (1.44%) and (3.06%), an aura or some addon?

[sweet summit]

advanced tooltips addon

[steep bone]

oo

pog

that percentage next to stats means how much itll give you?

[ionic fern]

@sweet summit

[sweet summit]

i only really use it to see rppm on traits and trinkets, idk if i can configure it

[still pagoda]

[keen barn]

Any good weakauras for prot warr?

[sweet summit]

rotation helpers or

[potent bear]

trying to stay below 40, with my current setup the choices are btween swapping out an IT1 (my second one in the gearset) vs a surging vitality 2. Any pref for m+ over these 2

[sweet summit]

IT1

you want two IT1s

[potent bear]

aight

[fringe ferry]

ny best practices for prot m+ dps. It seems like my thunder clap cast count is ok, but my dps is but so meh

[woven trellis]

hwo good is the corru on faralos

compared to a TD1

[sweet summit]

less damage, more corruption

[woven trellis]

how much less dmg, on the packs i just trashed it did half the damage eof my td3

[mystic finch]

thank everyone for your responses!

[sweet summit]

i dont have an exact number, but i know its a TD1 but worse

[woven trellis]

very weird

it has been doin 1.5x TD1 on the last 4 packs io pulled

including ST

[fringe ferry]

to samll of a sample size is my guess

[pastel crown]

The nice thing is it’s more predictable. I cleansed mine for a td2 though

[woven trellis]

since it allows me to upgrade my gloves ill go for it for now i think

[pastel crown]

You can do nice things like pop last stand and rally cry when your at 27 stacks or so

And use your hp as a weapon

[sweet summit]

idk if its worth it to waste last stand and rally for a small dps boost 👀

[fringe ferry]

for real sounds like a meme

[pastel crown]

Well if your just doing visions or dailies or something

Or heroic raids

Or 15s

[raven knoll]

guys what route do i have to go in junk this week eu?

[sweet summit]

same as last week
areal unit is over gobb this week iirc

wtf do i spend residuum on now

[steep bone]

alts

i mean

off specs

[sweet summit]

i literally have every good item for all 3 specs rn

abyssal
mecha
tank buster
ashvane

[still pagoda]

[wooden radish]

@ancient dew

[sweet oasis]

Are https://www.wowhead.com/item=168978/anodized-deflectors?bonus=1532:4778#comments any good?

[sweet summit]

no

[sweet oasis]

It's 15% avoidance and 5% parry at 475 ilv

[sweet summit]

ok

[sweet oasis]

Still not good, right?

[steep bone]

no

[main vault]

Lol

is it good, no

But these stats everyone knows about, good now rite

[buoyant walrus]

https://youtu.be/aKRL0TlbPNI

Well here it is haha

[sweet summit]

i dont have time to watch all of it, but watched the first 5 or so minutes.

1. you're neglecting thunderclap by using devastate over it
2. you're overcapping rage
3. you dont use SW to cover SB/LS downtime, not even vs tank buster
4. you dont have target target frames
5. is that deadly momentum and alch stone i see 👀

[still pagoda]

#5 is probably a problem of nearly fresh character

[buoyant walrus]

@sweet summit ok I’ll work on those and the alch stone is only other trinket I have other than 460 ritual bandages and deadly momentum I kept on cuz I have no other corruption to put and I’m still at low overall corup

[urban tusk]

i see some prot warriors dealing big dmg. whats the trick behind it?

[civic rover]

you went like a minute in the beginning without using avatar

thats why your dps might feel low

[ionic fern]

Twilight Devastation

ANd playing the class correctly.

@urban tusk

[civic rover]

@buoyant walrus you gotta use avatar more man. You're going long periods of time without touching it even though with AM it's literally like a 30 second cooldown.

[buoyant walrus]

@smoky oak target target frames?

@civic rover yeah I was seeing that as well after rewatching

[sweet summit]

@buoyant walrus your targets target. You cant know if say spider obelisk is casting on you or not, for reflect

[upper ivy]

Would you guys say the wowhead prot guide for 8.3 is still decent for somebody new to prot?

[pliant jolt]

Some one have link to nice WA that show my hero HP bar that is nice to look at and that change color accorsing to hp% or anything like that

Just want to have it nice visually yum

Pls dm me if you havw anything like that

[brittle owl]

#ui-addons-manager

[novel ruin]

@upper ivy Yes it is. If you have any specific questions after reading it, let us know

[broken shuttle]

ty @novel ruin

[novel ruin]

your welcome

[upper ivy]

Thanks! Will do.

[still pagoda]

Would you guys say the wowhead prot guide for 8.3 is still decent for somebody new to prot?
@upper ivy

Decent but not really better than Icy Veins

both are good for basics

you can also check pins in this channel

for a lot of useful information

[upper ivy]

Yeah thats where I first looked and I just like wowhead more. But I will definitely check out icy veins

[broken shuttle]

wowhead presentation layout is better, but icy has more relevant info

just cross reference that info with the pinned content here

thats how i do it with DH

[strong forum]

Well it's also that icy veins and wowhead have different writers for each guide

Both are here in this discord but still 2 different people so there will be differences

[broken shuttle]

ahh

[novel ruin]

and their info is good but in some cases not specific (which they are not written to be)

[upper ivy]

Yeah I just looking at beginner/basic guides. New to tanking and wanting to take a break from dps

[strong forum]

Ya that's what they're for

So gl!

[upper ivy]

love the fantasy of warrior (and druid so im also learning guardian)

[broken shuttle]

same thinking a break from havoc and want to tank and help out!

[novel ruin]

if yall have any questions, feel free to ask.

[woven trellis]

if u eat a kbab, do your lose your goulash buff

[novel ruin]

idk

[quiet crypt]

No

Goulash is a well fed buff whereas kbab is not

[sick sentinel]

21 seconds from 2 chest

[strong forum]

Getting there, but dmg done is lacking

Do better

[grand drum]

That fury hard carried the group

[broken shuttle]

thats a nice UI @sick sentinel

informative but clean

[distant crystal]

damn Klavious

put the whole team on his back

[sick sentinel]

i think my dps is shit, because i re position and then am
A: out of melee range
B: wrong target
C: i'm turned the wrong way

and i believe in turn that leads to no aggro held, panic cd usage, etc

[strong forum]

It does, but rotation is prolly still a factor

Just keep on practicing 👍

[distant crystal]

moar claps

[sick sentinel]

i'll get there, screwing around with versa and other trinkets that i got see if i feel any difference

been using rezan and butcher block entire +15 timed grind

have some fun now

[sweet summit]

@ionic fern as i am lazy i come here to ask, do i just coral on every other avatar?

[steep bone]

not rekilling nzoth on sunday

killing it 1st try today

[modern brook]

Sure is lockout in here

[steep bone]

being locked for whole week ;_; rip raden legs

[modern brook]

i just downed m raden first time pugging

:^) got my 475 vita so i never have to raid again

[broken shuttle]

nice!

[modern brook]

Yah now i just need to time 20 UR and 20 UHhhhh somehing else and hit 3k andi can stop playing till SL

[sweet summit]

🤔

[main vault]

Trust me you can stop before that

[modern brook]

fuck that

BFA was fun

not as good as legion sure

and its definitely smoldering

and all of the unique content it added was instanced and pointless pve to assist with time gating

but the dungeons were fun

just tryna hit my personal goals b4 i call it

[steep bone]

dungeons are better than bfa raids and all content combined, change my mind

[modern brook]

M+ is literally the only reason to play wow over its competitors TBH

esp in bfa

[sharp palm]

Hello. There was a pastebin win Naowh WA..does any1 has the link to it?

[distant crystal]

that's for subs only 😏

[sharp palm]

do you have it, yes or no? I've reinstalled wow and lost all my WA

[novel ruin]

go sub to get access to it.

[sharp palm]

he is offline

[novel ruin]

Then wait. Don't ask for free things when it has a cost associated to it

[strong forum]

he doesnt have to be online to get access to his discord as a sub

[sharp palm]

how do I get it then?

[distant crystal]

you can sub on twitch while he's offline

then link your twitch account to your discord account

and join his discord

and it should give you the sub role and let you get into the sub-only channels

idk about naowh, but a lot of these streamer ui's that they only give to subs are just collections of publicly available weakauras

[sharp palm]

naowh I know he made his own WA..with special alerts

I've linked the discord with twitch now what?

[sweet summit]

can u just read the FAQ in his discord xd

Aloha and welcome to my server. Please read below:
If you subbed to my channel and want to grab my UI, please read following before asking for help in other channels.

Step 1: Sync your Twitch account to your Discord account (User Settings > Connections > Connect Twitch > Join "Naowhs SubClub")
Step 2: Wait for the server to sync with your twitch account, which usually happens within an hour.
Step 3: You will get a purple name color and see new channels pop up. Go to naowh-ui and check "Pinned messages" (Icon top right)
Step 4: Voila!

[modern brook]

#techsupport

[distant crystal]

the mage discord is currently helping a lvl 23 mage figure out how to purchase a mount

meanwhile we're over here spurning this poor UI-seeker

smh

[sick sentinel]

i remember bing a lvl 50 pally begging and crying to get into a sunken temple run to do quest when i was complete utter scrub

worst than before

get my mage friend to give me some amount of gold to do the epic pally mount quest. good times

[upper ivy]

Alright back from trial run as prot

So much fun. Seriously where has this spec been all my life

[meager zinc]

Been wondering between prot war or monk to tank in shadowlands 😅

[modern brook]

I might be biased but probably dk

[brittle owl]

depends on content

for raids brew is always a safe pick

[sharp palm]

any1 have a good WA for ready check/pull timer

?

[sweet summit]

a weakaura for that? dont you have bigwigs/dbm

[sharp palm]

found it, but thx

[orchid frigate]

wee got burgy blackheart's handsome hat

[humble drum]

bury is awesome

burgy*

[orchid frigate]

got annoyed by the size of my orc when doing visions today and titan procced and i couldnt get pass the lamp in the bomb room

[sick sentinel]

how much trash in first area in ML?

for %

[humble drum]

i get 62% before moving on after first boss

[sweet summit]

i like do to 55 or 65 idk

[humble drum]

thats letting the jockeys getting in mechs

ml is pretty easy this week

[sick sentinel]

y

last weak was horribkle

with the joeckeys

[humble drum]

just use psychic shell on cd

last week was bolstering thats why it was bad in ml

[woven trellis]

what would u choose between a ilvl 470 ring with good stats and a medium ring 460 with your 2nd IT1

is it worth it to drop to IT1x1 for better stats

[sweet summit]

the one with the most haste and if its the IT2 one id cleanse it

oh nvm i read that wrong

the one with the most haste

[woven trellis]

they both have the same haste

[sweet summit]

the one with the most crit

or u could just sim it

vers isnt bad for damage either

[woven trellis]

like

for the ring ill keep my IT1 ring thanks to ur judgement

but

for my belt

i have this ilvl 470 Belt Mastery Crit i put an IT1 in the past

but i also have this beautiful Hastee Versatility Socket belt

in 465

[sweet summit]

ilvl is king mate

but again, you can sim for dps

[steep bone]

@still pagoda

[still pagoda]

[sweet summit]

got a FH 16 key pog

[steep bone]

he's literally

been doing only 16keys

the shaman xD

[sweet summit]

[steep bone]

tbh this week is giga ez

i love it ❤️

tbh, does this look legit? I mean melee over shield slam

[strong forum]

ya

they swap from time to time

[steep bone]

i see

was curious if actually pressing buttons wrong or smt

[strong forum]

na, melee and SS fight for 3rd

[sweet summit]

Melee is always over my SS

👀

Unless its like ST where i SS on CD

[still pagoda]

^

[novel ruin]

I SS on CD even in AOE, gotta get that rage gen boi

[still pagoda]

^

gotta get it high

[novel ruin]

Oh, there was some people asking about Health pot scaling with vers. At 100% potion heals for 250k

[still pagoda]

@sweet summit @steep bone

i'm nearing the completion of it

now i just need all the crit amps in the world

and 75 PvP tokens to buy BotE R3

[robust pulsar]

Whats the logic between wrath sword and carapace mace?
Wrathion weap has more versa/haste why pick the mace? 🙂

[ebon hound]

mace is higher ilvl

[robust pulsar]

Just that?

[ebon hound]

"just" that

[robust pulsar]

Huuum 😄

10 ilevels on a weap with worse stats... Well, going for it now, wish me luck ❤️

[ebon hound]

all stats are good

[still pagoda]

Whats the logic between wrath sword and carapace mace?
Wrathion weap has more versa/haste why pick the mace? 🙂
@robust pulsar

Mace has much higher weapon DPS

and it also has haste

[upper ivy]

Quick Question: why as a Zandalari troll would I choose Paku over Kragwa? I'm new so forgive me if this obvious.

[still pagoda]

@sharp palm #ui-addons-manager we have a good naowh-esque set here

😁

Also make a backup of all addons and WTF file next time

[limpid pawn]

From what I’ve been told, higher weapon ilevel scales all your attack abilities

It’s huge

[stark sage]

scales with any ability that is based on AP

so includes stuff like IP

[sick sentinel]

someone has a good route for atal +18, with 3 BL?

[orchid frigate]

ugh when i run with guildies they dont like when i snap saurids on the thing by the gates. they complain they cant dps saurids and jump up there as well

is it a bad snap spot?

[onyx vessel]

no there just dumb

[orchid frigate]

thanks

[limpid pawn]

Any versa bro’s changing up the corruptions this week?

[onyx vessel]

its not that great also you cant really do it without rogue/hunter

[limpid pawn]

8x versatile ??? Or still using 2x IT 1

[orchid frigate]

pro is that its so easy to get there

[onyx vessel]

2 it 7 vers all day

dont even care.

[orchid frigate]

haha

[novel ruin]

yeah, been testing 8x vers the last couple weeks. 7x vers and 2x IT is better imo

[limpid pawn]

Those clap spam avatars the dream

[onyx vessel]

8 and 1 is what they use in very high keys

[limpid pawn]

Are 24/25 very high tho

[novel ruin]

@onyx vessel No they dont. They rotate between 7/2 , 8/1 and 6/1/Surging

@limpid pawn 24/25 keys puts you in the top 600 Prot Warriors in the world. Even less for other specs. Its very very high.

[still pagoda]

I'm gonna stick with 6/2 or 7/2 when i complete my vers set

But i don't think i will use it for now

[novel ruin]

Yeah i will be going back to 7/2 when IT 1 back up

8 less corruption too which is poggers

[orchid frigate]

feel like i wanna try versa amp out but then i have to use the corruption on my TD pieces :/

wish i had better luck with loot

[novel ruin]

are you doing 24s?

[orchid frigate]

no

[strong forum]

Going vers amps in medium to low keys is horrible

[orchid frigate]

really?

[novel ruin]

then stick to TD

[strong forum]

I played it in 22s

Fuck me it sucks so bad

[orchid frigate]

in what way?

[novel ruin]

cuz damage is lower

[strong forum]

You don't take any dmg

[novel ruin]

and nothing hurts you anyways with solid play

[strong forum]

It's so fucking boring

[orchid frigate]

well i dont play solid so 🤷‍♂️

[novel ruin]

then vers will be even worse

[strong forum]

Literally tilts me when I don't even lose 5% in a 12mob pull

[orchid frigate]

oh thought that vers would make my sub par gameplay forgiving

[strong forum]

And my healer doesn't have to heal me ever cuz 6% leech is enough to keep me alive

[novel ruin]

it will which is bad

[strong forum]

It's so fucking boring

[keen summit]

what are the best corruptions

for raiding

[strong forum]

TD

[novel ruin]

TD

[prisma crane]

TD or IS

[strong forum]

Max the shit out of TD and just blast

[keen summit]

thing is

[prisma crane]

IS on like... 3 bosses

[keen summit]

rank 3

has crazy high corruption

lol

[novel ruin]

So?

[strong forum]

So

[novel ruin]

It does big damage

[prisma crane]

most of us run TD 6 or 7+

[keen summit]

jesus

[strong forum]

You equip TD7 and just blast

[keen summit]

all rank 3?

[prisma crane]

just depends where your cloak is

[novel ruin]

no

[strong forum]

Enjoy your 60k-100k dps

[prisma crane]

doesnt matter

[keen summit]

aite

thanks peeps

[novel ruin]

2 Rank 3 TD is TD 6

[prisma crane]

could be all 1s could be a 1 2 3 could be 3 3

etc

all the same

[keen summit]

ohhh

as in the sum

got it

[prisma crane]

yup

each rank is 6% HP worth of damage

[keen summit]

and rest vers?

[prisma crane]

no rest

just TD

[keen summit]

aite

sick

makes sense

thanks ❤️

[still pagoda]

Ehh

Unlucky with my search for push group so far

Second week and the only result is 2.6k guys bricking +20UR(whom i decided not to flame or leave, but just slowly but surely abstain from doing keys with as i'm in a search of something equal to me)

[onyx vessel]

[steep bone]

have you tried listing yourself in lfg with annoucement that you're looking for group?

[still pagoda]

Hmmm...

No

[steep bone]

i've seen such lfg thingys week before push

[still pagoda]

[steep bone]

there were multiple 3-3,5-4k+ teams looking for grps

[still pagoda]

Like, i'm looking for a consistent group for next few weeks

[steep bone]

im pretty sure that if u found for this one ud have people to play with

[dark warren]

better versa I or gw to fill a equip until versa III?

[novel ruin]

Doesn’t matter.

[civic rover]

so apparently my guilds doing a sale run tonight that i didnt know about until just now, an hour before raid. Today I learned people actually buy mythic first 3.

[still pagoda]

[sick sentinel]

you must be new to mmos, people buy pots for real money

[still pagoda]

This is real yikes

[civic rover]

i mean

[still pagoda]

Even in EVE you can farm stuff out in nearly AFK session

[civic rover]

the two DHs buying a raden kill dont surprise me at all

but mythic first 3?

[sick sentinel]

people have been RMTing literally everything in any game since the beginning of time

[still pagoda]

But making high-tier ships can take few people and a month of time

[civic rover]

this isnt RMT this is for gold lmao

[sick sentinel]

For someone that makes 6 figures, you think they care about spending like 10-20 bucks for a boss kill?

[steep bone]

besides buying vip runs for items why would someone even buy first3, ez pug

[sick sentinel]

At some point, real money is involved even in gold sales

[civic rover]

wrathion is the only hard one to pug because people for some reason dont understand what "dont move" means. but maut and skitra are meme bosses

[still pagoda]

Well

NEXT TIER

Simon Says: The Boss

[civic rover]

lmao

remember that dog boss from trial of valor

[still pagoda]

Seriously

[civic rover]

that was fun to pug

[still pagoda]

Ah

Guarm

[civic rover]

iirc you just stood in the same one you stood in first every time

[still pagoda]

Wipes from debuff misunderstanding

iirc you just stood in the same one you stood in first every time

Yeah

Someone stood in the wrong one?

WIPE

[civic rover]

it was super easy with my guild though lol

i think the healers had some debuff mechanic or something but idk

i dont pay attention to other roles jobs unless it affects me directly

[obtuse yoke]

i feel hard stuck at my io

i have all but like 1 key timed at +21s and i get rejected from 22s all day

[still pagoda]

i have all but like 1 key timed at +21s and i get rejected from 22s all day
@obtuse yoke

Welcome to pugging

I have all keys timed at +20 and half 21-22

And get declined from 20s

[limpid pawn]

do you use your own keys?

guaranteed invite lol

[obtuse yoke]

haha

[still pagoda]

It doesn't matter whether you use your key or not

[obtuse yoke]

i tend to save my own keys for when i have friends online

[still pagoda]

You will not finish it

[obtuse yoke]

i just want to hit 3700 this week

[still pagoda]

Got contacted by one 3.3k healer today

Guess i will slowly but surely make a push group

😁

Instead of searching for one

[novel ruin]

@still pagoda find healer you like, pug all dps, friend dps you like, make group, profit

[sick sentinel]

i did a 16 workshop today

[distant crystal]

yup yup find your healer wife

then adopt 3 dps kids

[sick sentinel]

i butchered 3rd boss by wiping to it 2 times and not doing a few small trash mechanics

[distant crystal]

and return them if they misbehave

[still pagoda]

and return them if they misbehave
@distant crystal

Indeed, a Swedish family

[sick sentinel]

i want to hit 2k flat

im at 196-/7-

1985 io

i'mma go run some 16's RN to get it

only need 1 timed 16

[still pagoda]

Then 3k 😁

Then find or form a group and PUSH

[sick sentinel]

1 step at a time lmao

[still pagoda]

It's addicting

[sick sentinel]

next goal will be 2100, then 2200 etc

1 step at time guys

[still pagoda]

Amount of rio per key starts ramping at 17s

[grand drum]

first 2000, then 2001, then 2002

[still pagoda]

Growing out of control

2000 to 3000 was the fastest for me

Also because I've xferred to horde at the time

And built up 2.6k from scratch in one week

they told me almost verbatim "if you want to do higher key shut up"
@sick sentinel

Tank is the one who should not stay quiet

[sick sentinel]

cuz, i only play tank ever, or huntard or rogue mage monk sumthin, so i have a habit of explain to our group and for self reminder

[still pagoda]

Keep track of cds, coordinate interrupts and CDs and you'll be even better

[sick sentinel]

NOT trust random dps or healer i never meet b4 and likely never meet again

[civic rover]

nothing irritates me more

than some 3/12 2k io DH/mage/hunter telling me how to tank the dungeon

[still pagoda]

^

And dying on every pull at the same timd

[kind spindle]

"hey aren't we're low on %" no...no we're not.

[civic rover]

"tank do you know route?" yes i know the exact route you're thinking of in your brain

not like i have everything timed on at least a 20 or anything

[still pagoda]

"tank do you know route?"

I link route

"only garbage tanks link routes"

Get kicked

[civic rover]

nah my favorite is when i link my route with big pulls marked and i do a big pull

"combust is on cooldown!!!!!!! whyd you pull???"

I MARKED THE BIG IMPORTANT PULLS YOU MUFFIN

[still pagoda]

Jist play with 1 minute combust mages

2minuters are the ones moaning usually

[sick sentinel]

temple easy

[still pagoda]

Last week it was a nightmare

[sick sentinel]

it feels like i was total carried both groups lmao

6m failure dmg in that td 16 😦 4th place

such a strange sensation

I think what i would like to do is a +20 on time just 1 time say i can do it

[novel ruin]

@still pagoda you alliance NA?

[still pagoda]

@novel ruin EU horde

[novel ruin]

rip

[woven trellis]

Why rip

[novel ruin]

cuz i wanted to do a key with him

we trying 26 UR now bois, im ready to cry

[still pagoda]

Welcome to hell

[main vault]

And just the fact you play Alliance tbh

[sick sentinel]

i'm going to have to look up where that saying come from

welcome to hell

heard it in world of tanks also

[main vault]

uh

its been around for decades

if not hundreds/thousands of years

[still pagoda]

^

[novel ruin]

ripped the 26, time to go 25 UR lol

[still pagoda]

Everyone's pushing

While i have only started to form a group

[sick sentinel]

i did 16 work, and temple today, both went smooth

[wise fulcrum]

I'm tryin to catch up on gear. Just hit 15 cloak. should i spend my echoes on malefic cores or save for corruption effects? bought one twilight devastation 3 when that was up in the rotation

[main vault]

You need to balance it

You need the cores to be able to wear the corruption

But if you don’t have any corruption to use the cores are also worthless

[kind spindle]

And by the time you fully catch up shadowlands will be out. Lol. I've given up on my alts.

[main vault]

Pretty much

[wise fulcrum]

tru, i just want to ahead of the curve

new to wow wanna feel like I "did" bfa

[main vault]

You can get AotC in 2 months easy

[minor badger]

460 rezans or torment I have vita

[sick sentinel]

Alright tanks, I got my Mythic Sigil tonight. From an ilvl perspective what should i be using between socketed 460 Vita, 475 Scale, and 475 Sigil

[still pagoda]

new to wow wanna feel like I "did" bfa
@wise fulcrum

This feeling is kinda shitty tho :D

but still

you can get AotC for sure

[kind spindle]

@sick sentinel scale and Vita are best. LPS is the only good "tank" trinket if you need the extra defense. Ilvl doesn't matter much on trinkets since they don't scale the same way armor does.

And sigil is just a worse LPS

[civic rover]

i got ahead of the curve at 442 item level with a rank 2 cloak with no corruption

[sick sentinel]

gotcha yeah i have a 470 LPS

but we arent pushing passed first 3 yet.

once we go higher i will switch it out

[wise fulcrum]

@still pagoda I don't think I'm too far off. 462 ilvl and pretty much through normal nyalotha. Tough part is gonna be finding a group for it

[still pagoda]

find a guild

there're a lot of small heroic only guilds

[wise fulcrum]

i probably should tbh

what's the best way to find one?

[still pagoda]

your server's forum board

[novel ruin]

@wise fulcrum Wow guild forums, Wowprogress.com, WoW guild recruitment reddit

[ancient horizon]

question will warrior's be top tanks in shadowlands or there going to suck like bfa

[ionic fern]

? 🤔

We're good currently. 👀

And it's too early to say for sure about SL.
Currently we are not looking like a "top tank" (open to interpretation) but all the tanks will be able to do all the content regardless.

[still pagoda]

question will warrior's be top tanks in shadowlands or there going to suck like bfa
@ancient horizon

This is usually decided by numbers and how shit goes on during launch

technically

if you're not going for WR20 or lower

don't bother and play what you like

unless it's utter garbage

[ancient horizon]

the reason why I ask is because yes I agree at this time it to early to tell and blizzard has to do more balancing to even out the numbers. So the other tanks are just as useful as warriors are.

[still pagoda]

just prep every tank spec you're interested in playing and choose what you like on launch

but seriously

if you're not going for WF

don't bother

[ancient horizon]

I love playing warrior there super fun.

[buoyant walrus]

To lazy to lvl my pally lol

[limpid pawn]

my goal is to be nicer to people in this game and not "nerd rage" again ever

[buoyant walrus]

Would be my 6th too lvling through bra content

[limpid pawn]

yall ever just do that and then hate yourself afterwards

[brittle owl]

i just dont give a fuck

[ionic fern]

I barely read the in-game chat.

🤷

Playing WoW like a singleplayer game.

😂

[still pagoda]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/412878982053101589/736697420150210660/3x.gif

[brittle owl]

/1 is entertaining sometimes in raid

[still pagoda]

indeed

a singleplayer game we all deserve

/1 is entertaining sometimes in raid
@brittle owl

especially on Kazzak and Гордунни

:D

[ionic fern]

Sometimes the NPC's that follow me in the dungeons are kinda bugged and do weird things but hey..can't make everything perfect. 🤷

[brittle owl]

idk about that second one but i can confirm on the first

[still pagoda]

idk about that second one but i can confirm on the first

Гордунни is my former homerealm

the funny zone of RU clusters

RU's own WoW Balkans

[brittle owl]

that's kindof tautological tbh

hey

the balkans are tight mkay

go fuck yourself

[still pagoda]

RU clusters are the funny zone by themselves

:D

[brittle owl]

imma shank you and steal your car

[still pagoda]

[ancient horizon]

from the 4 tanks I play on a regular base.warriors have impressive self heals to a limit when it come to physical damage. it just magic damage is our weak spot.we struggle on that department

[brittle owl]

self heals

[still pagoda]

warriors have impressive self heals

you have mistaken us for DK

[split wyvern]

[still pagoda]

no healing here

[grand drum]

Ah yes, self heals as a warrior

[split wyvern]

Victory rush

[still pagoda]

only B L O C K

Victory rush

Doesn't count really

since it is not rotational

[split wyvern]

Last stand

[brittle owl]

victory rush

more like

[split wyvern]

😂

[brittle owl]

actually i have nothing

last stand is also appropriately missnamed

you stand for the last time 30 times in a dungeon

kekw

[still pagoda]

^

[ionic fern]

y0

Self

Heals

[still pagoda]

time to die

😳

[grand drum]

You use revenge but nobody really wrongs you in any way

[still pagoda]

@ionic fern The Ineffable Leeching Ravager

[ionic fern]

Starcraft's still a thing? Cool.

[still pagoda]

yeah

[brittle owl]

You use revenge but nobody really wrongs you in any way
@grand drum incorrect

[still pagoda]

my childhood's game lol

[brittle owl]

they know what they did

[still pagoda]

both SC:BW and SC2

[brittle owl]

you're just being proactive

[ionic fern]

Dangerous Dave in the Haunted Mansion

This was my childhood's game.

😦