And it tells you how often it procs in the description
#protection
sick sentinel
once perminute
DUH
ty lol
Strength in numbers is obviously a tanky choice
but
OP with that haste
just seems too good to pass....right?
chilly brook
Strength in numbers is garbage
sick sentinel
Griff, thank you for your service bruh
chilly brook
OP is great
still pagoda
Strength in numbers is obviously a tanky choice
@sick sentinel
Just in case: This trait is garbage
not even tanky
it suffers from the same problem as all other HP increase and heal on proc effects
its effect is unpredictable and barely does anything as you don't rely on max HP at all
also amount of HP it gives is really low
sick sentinel
yeah true
toxic remnant
Bastion of Might x3 and Heart of Darkness x1 OR BoM x2 and HoD x2?
sweet summit
3x BoM
toxic remnant
Many thanks
sick sentinel
also, for RAID tanking, not keys
would you take Longstrider or Bulwark of the masses
sick sentinel
that's what I was thinking
sweet summit
bulwark is like bugged or something
warm plinth
It doesn’t proc when it’s supposed to
novel ruin
@steep bone Yeah, we can set something up for later tonight
daring bay
Can anyone recomend a good DR tracker for when doing keys?
sweet summit
dragon roar???!?!?!??
sweet summit
aw :(
novel ruin
shouldnt really need one for keys or raid
daring bay
Think it could be usefull
sweet summit
i just keep track of that in my head honestly
daring bay
Think somthing that would just highlight mobs who are stun immune be nice
sweet summit
https://wago.io/Stun&DR idk if this works but worth a try?
https://wago.io/6ewNxHqUT maybe this is better?
steep bone
@novel ruin poggies, ping me if youve time 😄
tidal frost
can someone teach me how to tank mythic plus keys?
i have experience tanking but not as a warrior
sweet summit
then you should be fine for the most part
just keep shield block up 
ionic fern
Aand how would you see that happening?
Experience is the best teacher.
steep bone
@tidal frost what you're struggling with as war?
ionic fern
If you have gone through some fundamental guides and know the abilities and how they interact with eachother it should be semi smooth sailing.
If you have any VoD's or wanna stream a run we can look into that as well. 🤷
tidal frost
@steep bone Well ive never tanked anything higer than a 5 and that was back in legion on my paladin
higher*
steep bone
i have experience tanking but not as a warrior
then you have no experience at all
sick sentinel
how valuable is 475 vial vs 465 butcher block and 460 eye of rezan
those are the 2 best i got in bags before box
steep bone
Well basically start with 
@tidal frost
civic rover
how is tanking but not as a warrior no experience lol
sick sentinel
sick sentinel
thats the one i got today
civic rover
wrong thing to quote
sweet summit
if you know how to tank (routes/mechanics/dealing with things) then u good
prot warrior isnt very hard, just check out the IV guide and ask here if you have any questions that're not answered in the guide or pins and we'll be happy to help
@novel ruin
Inner Traits:
Overwhelming Power > Lifespeed >= Blood Siphon (if doing keys high enough that Leech is impactful to stack, full vers and 24+ keys) >= Unstable Flames >=Meticulous Scheming >= Elemental Whirl
MS isnt even on the same row as these other traits 👀
sweet summit
the little trick?
steep bone
killing bosses with obelisks?
sweet summit
i see, i see
steep bone
aye, like in underrot or junkyard where it's annoying to get to one of those
steep bone
dratnos makes them
sweet summit
you can look at them and see if you like them, or do some changes here and there as you get more experience
steep bone
but i don't think dratnos routes contain skips/obelisk with bosses
tidal frost
well my key is motherload and i know the skips with that one
distant crystal
uhh anyone know how to remove a discord from your server list if it got deleted overnight
😏
tidal frost
just leave it
sweet summit
😉
steep bone
gallywix? 
distant crystal
leave doesn't do anything
steep bone
maybe relog discord
strong forum
HURRY OR YOULL GET BANNED /s
muted heron
i just came back to 8.3 2-3 weeks ago. Now im in the +15 m+ range. Should I just go full vers build?
sweet summit
no
strong forum
no
steep bone
no
distant crystal
relogging did the trick
muted heron
So whats a good build for 15-20s range
distant crystal
that's quite the collection of bad trinkets
steep bone
@muted heron you go full dps until like mid 20s range
strong forum
TD
steep bone
5TD 2xIT is golden
sweet summit
full TD and/or IT1x2
strong forum
full haste crit TD
distant crystal
chain of suffering Pog
sick sentinel
the magic damage shield one has a haste gem in it btw
sweet summit
ye
muted heron
so the alchemy 470 trinket isnt good at all?
strong forum
if its highest ilvl, yes
strong forum
alchemy trinket is fine
tidal frost
so i can copy the route to my weakauras?
sweet summit
mythic dungeon tools addon
steep bone
nah you copy it to mythic dungeon tools addon
tidal frost
ooohhh
steep bone
you can also check every mob there, abilities %count etc
tidal frost
thanks for the help 🙂
steep bone
so if you spend some time you can get own routes there
muted heron
anyone has an armory or raider.io page wtih that build
cause all the top ranks are all the same build
sick sentinel
with what build
steep bone
it's basically equip highest ilvl of items, get Twilight Devastation on your pieces and IT
sweet summit
Twilight devastation
Ineffable Truth
steep bone
^
sick sentinel
twilight dev and ineffable truth
sweet summit
corruptions
they replaced titanforging/warforging with it
but you can also buy it at the chamber of hearts or something
idk what its called
steep bone
nah
sick sentinel
twilight dev = void tornadoe of doom, truth = zilean E (huge CDR for short time)
steep bone
r3 or 3x r1 or r2+r1 etc, but that also depends on your resistance on cloak
steep bone
having lower ranks combined makes you more flexible to adjust to other corrupts if you wanna squeeze few vers later on
sweet summit
dont buy TD1, its overpriced af
distant crystal
p sure?
sweet summit
muted heron
so 3 rank 1 is exactly the same like 1 rank 3?
steep bone
yeah
sweet summit
corruption/damage yes
sick sentinel
it has the same effect
distant crystal
apparently not for echo price
muted heron
cool
distant crystal
could've sworned it was 5k 10k 15k
sweet summit
yeah not for echo price
steep bone
that you're not gonna swap in nearest future
sweet summit
exactly
distant crystal
less important now but putting it in slots that you don't wear for other specs
is best
sick sentinel
and it you have TD1 TD1 and TD1 that counts and TD3 to us, because it has the same CR and it has same effect as 1 rank3 application of TD, so we could also say TD2 on weapon and TD3 on shield is TD5
sweet summit
because they are not doing +15s
distant crystal
because they're doing keys you'll never do
sweet summit
+15s and +29s are two completely different games
steep bone
they need that for very high keys where damage reduction is required to not die to mobs/bosses
muted heron
oh so if i stack a lot of vers in the 15-20 range
ionic fern
"Even though Mythic + damage just keeps on scaling with each extra keystone level we do not have access to similar scaling for our gear. This means that we can not get gear higher than what is currently obtainable through Mythic raiding. Eventually there will be a point where the damage in Mythic + will be too high for the tank and healer to handle and this is where things like Versatility stacking could come in handy to bolster our defenses a bit.
"
steep bone
well you'll take no damage and you're better of doing damage as you'll still take no damage even without vers
sick sentinel
can i get weak auras for DR on stuns, fears, parry ETC so that i can attempt to track those
sweet summit
parry??
sick sentinel
so i don't SB a mob that is casting that has been stunned 3 times already
steep bone
SB?
steep bone
tru
sick sentinel
parry??
@sweet summit
sick sentinel
because its mitigation
muted heron
when i look at my details for overall damage
my melee is a lot higher than revenge and shield slam
am i playing it wrong?
stone orchid
is the fusion hacker a single target weapon? or multitarget
sweet summit
ST mostly
but ilvl is king everywhere
no, melee is big dam
thats normal
@sick sentinel idk doesnt make sense to me to track parry
you cant control it 🤷♀️
like you should have a revenge WA anyway, and that kinda does the trick
since parry=free revenge
stone orchid
should i use faralos 475 or a fusion hacker 475
sweet summit
id sim that
faralos would be better in aoe, like 5 or so targets consistently?
fusion hacker is like the best ST weapon for us afaik
stone orchid
ah icic
tidal frost
so before i tank my +10 key, im looking at the mythic dungeon tool thing and i just pull everything thats in the first pull? like at one time
sweet summit
i dont know what dungeon you are doing so im scared to answer
and i also dont know what the route has selected as first pull
sweet summit
is it still bolstering for you?
tidal frost
no its not bolstering
sweet summit
you could pull the first 3 or so packs then, idk what the route has marked
just
note
throw wrench hurts
but is blockable
and CCable
and LoSable
tidal frost
so have shield block up or pummel him?
sweet summit
im EU 
tidal frost
i can still invite you through my friends list on WoW
sweet summit
EU cant play with NA on live servers tho
tidal frost
gross
sweet summit
unless i make a brand new NA account
tidal frost
how can i stream it on discord?
ionic fern
You join a voice channel and that allows you to stream games.
tidal frost
well how would streaming it help me lol
ionic fern
😒
sweet summit
mwahi is watching 👀
sweet summit
tidal frost
yeah but its also super embarassing having other people watching me
ionic fern
No worries. 👍
What you can do then is log the run.
That way we can also see what was going on.
tidal frost
its like u saw me watching a video on how to do that XD
sweet summit
👀
tidal frost
so wait, where does the log go?
distant crystal
you can get an addon that will turn logs on/off automatically for ya
sweet summit
wow/retail/logs folder
distant crystal
autocombatlogger is what i use
tidal frost
minimum ilvl for +10?
sweet summit
430 ish id say if you have a premade group
probably like 450 if you're puging
distant crystal
i think 440 or so to be contributing
steep bone
i think i did 15 with 440-445
wide dagger
can anyone tell me the specific triggers for Victory rush? like does it trigger once youve hit a mob or do you need the final blow? does the mob need to be your target to count? things like that. thanks for the help
sweet summit
the killing blow of an enemy that yields exp or honor
loud shoal
killing blow. don't need to be targeted, some mobs can be weird and give you the proc even if you don't get the killing blow, like dervishes in temple.
warm plinth
They don't need to be targeted, but you have to hit them last.
sweet summit
dervishes are very weird
warm plinth
Dervishes are weird because I don't think they technically die themselves. The like "dolls" or whatever attached to them do
That's why you get 5 sanguine puddles for each one
sweet summit
oh so the orbs or whatever
loud shoal
they don't die but they have the on death effect of sanguine, but they don't have the on death effect of bursting, but they give you the on death effect of victory rush
warm plinth
It's an invisible thing involved with them that triggers the boss fight
They're just a weird as fuck mob
wide dagger
thanks guys. i find that to be a really specific healing requrement especially since tankd dont normally kill the mobs
ionic fern
That's not something we rely on regardless.
sweet summit
well you generally dont need VR to live in m+
warm plinth
Yeah you don't rely on VR
sweet summit
its neat when it happens
warm plinth
It's just something that sometimes you get to press to heal a bit
wide dagger
so is IP my main focus then?
sweet summit
SB is
sweet summit
your HPS is very very very irrelevant
warm plinth
Literally the only encounter you could even consistently get VR procs on is the last boss of Underrot
civic rover
if your healer isn't having to heal a lot and you're still not losing health that's a very good sign
wide dagger
guess i need more haste then cause my sb uptime could be better
sweet summit
you fill gaps with Last Stand and/or Shield Wall
you cant get 100% uptime on only shieldblock unless you get like 166% haste
and good luck with that
loud shoal
Warriors are strong in the area of damage prevention so we typically don't need a lot of healing, and we don't heal much ourselves, compared to say a Druid or DK that have a lot of self healing but take a lot of damage
wide dagger
thanks guys
sweet summit
ye you write /combatlog once, then you get a message in the chat saying "combatlogging is now enabled" or something
tidal frost
yeah, but it didn't work cause i dont have a log
sweet summit
did you turn on advanced logging?
tidal frost
yeah, the addon i had didnt have dungeons enabled
sweet summit
pog
pastel crown
when it says "Against Current Target: 63.21%) for versatility, do I multiply my static vers by that much?
so like 55%*63% = 34.65%
strong forum
Raid bosses are 3 levels higher than you so it should stay regular vs actual content
sick sentinel
how do i determine where the hard mode starts for M+ junk
like, what is the mechanics that cause it to happen
strong forum
Open map
main vault
The guy flying in the air
strong forum
The ship
main vault
Shows you
strong forum
After you kill a boss
sick sentinel
is it a weekly or daily thing?
strong forum
Weekly
sick sentinel
hmm okay good
patent idol
Is high moutain racial effected by versititle corruption like panda is?
brittle owl
probably yeah
but like
who cares
afaik pandas are net superior though for that purpose
patent idol
pandas provide 8 more, but dont have an aoe/movement skill so I am on the fence.
strong forum
panda should technically be less right
cuz 1% vers is 95 or smth how much is food again
distant crystal
just be human 4head
strong forum
ah ye its 85 for vers
stark spear
How’s prot looking in shadowlands? Haven’t seen much gameplay it’s all DKs and Paladins
patent idol
The kyrian spear feels real nice tho. So just close your eyes between spears.
civic rover
@strong forum pretty sure panda double food gives more vers than highmountain racial
isn't 1% vers like 85 vers
warm plinth
85 for the damage/healing part, 170 for the DR part
civic rover
ah ok
left sedge
450 logic loop of maintenance to pair with 470 nzoth ring, or 460 shorting bit band ?
strong forum
whatever gives the most haste
neon cliff
got a quick question if anyone would like to help. what majorand minor essences do you guys prefer on fortified workshop?
left sedge
i had a non warr tank ask me why i didnt have strength of warden as my major ess i was like uh for warrs we have vision major /shrug
neon cliff
would you dynamo over aegis?
strong forum
in workshop 100%
but you dont use that anymore really
typicall just cns/vop/warden 100% of the time
left sedge
whats a good alternate if you dont have r3 of conflict cause i dont
and also dont have essence from EP
strong forum
R1 is already usable
but if you care to min max essences, you should get R3 lucid and CNS
left sedge
yeah i have r2 of lucid and 1 of conflict
currently running touch of everlasting major aegis nullification and formless as minors
onyx vessel
Vision too good
strong forum
run that
left sedge
i have r2 of lucid on my hunter an dont have the essence unlocked at all on my warr
cause alt
civic rover
even rank 1 lucid minor im pretty sure is op
onyx vessel
Yup
strong forum
not OP, but still pretty good
R1 and R3 are the big ones
r2 is w/e, with R3 comes the vers proc
left sedge
r1 tooltip says chance to refund rage spent on spells/abilities by 50% an heal for 18679
civic rover
i've been using lucid major in my key group it's pretty fun
strong forum
yes thats good
civic rover
pulling normally, my lucid comes up, "aight guys BIG PULL"
steep bone
lucid major 
❤️ 
civic rover
a guildy is gearing a prot alt and uses anima major
onyx vessel
Well slap him
civic rover
he told me "my friend is the highest ranked prot warrior on his server and he told me to use it"
and i told him "yeah go in skyhold and you'll be called a clown"
onyx vessel
??
left sedge
i called another prot warr out for usin anima major an hes like talk to me when youve timed a +15 lol
steep bone
i mean my guildie told me to get rid of vop, i wouldn't trust some random plebs
civic rover
every guide ever on prot warrior
limpid pawn
steep bone
isnt anima major giga memes tho
limpid pawn
this key do-able this week
civic rover
it's good at like
snapping threat back
but at that point just use sotw major
and if ur having threat issues on prot maybe something else is the issue
onyx vessel
Td is good on all weeks cept sang
civic rover
@limpid pawn what level TD was that?
onyx vessel
To be fair vision procs like 3 times a key
limpid pawn
22
sweet summit
Anima is not good
limpid pawn
im trying to get out of pleb territory
sweet summit
onyx vessel
Or run vision
civic rover
or run vision for better avatar uptime
steep bone
truuu
onyx vessel
Got carried by a druid prob
steep bone
it actually was sang
limpid pawn
i learned a new path from some higher io dudes
limpid pawn
so first pillar to upstairs to vulpera pack and pull whole room w/ lust
limpid pawn
wait wut
novel ruin
24 Fh turned to 25 alliance siege, 24 WCM turned to 25 KR. This game hates me
limpid pawn
i have a 24 KR in my bag now
onyx vessel
F
limpid pawn
how fucked am i
steep bone
alliance siege
civic rover
i have a 21 FH 😎
onyx vessel
Doable
novel ruin
off the 2 chest of both of em by a minute or so too 😦
civic rover
and my monk got a 16 freehold lmao
limpid pawn
i may go push some keys on my brew too
civic rover
i do guild keys on my monk
limpid pawn
lol
civic rover
if there's anything that irritates me, it's watching guildies tank keys
limpid pawn
even the hero breaker?
yo, real talk i actually like watching my wife joining pugs on her alts with different tanks
civic rover
i was dpsing a 14 freehold or something a few weeks ago with one of the DHs who tanks keys
limpid pawn
azralon /rag tanks
onyx vessel
Wait boss does dmg
limpid pawn
lol
civic rover
and im like "dude if you're having trouble timing 15s this is why"
limpid pawn
SLOW N STEADY
civic rover
and then he proceeded to pull one pack at a time and not do spider with harlan
civic rover
we timed it because dps was still giga it was like a two chest or something
onyx vessel
Pull 4 pussay
steep bone
one pack at a time
@civic rover alt+f4 insta
civic rover
but i was like "listen dude, that's a really really suboptimal route" and he was like "this is how I tank it"
civic rover
like bro ur TD 6 even without giga dps trash damage isn't going to be an issue
civic rover
i dont think people realize
onyx vessel
Go big or go home in a 14
civic rover
like pulling a lot isn't life threatening most of the time
limpid pawn
Can’t DH like pull while first 9 mobs in FH without a healer
onyx vessel
Use cd pull 3 packs
limpid pawn
Or am I wrong
onyx vessel
Ez
steep bone
ppl too afraid of pulling more than one pack
civic rover
probably
civic rover
i like DH tanking
onyx vessel
Like focus the ranger then big dude
civic rover
i like all the tanks
chilly brook
DH tanking is fun af
onyx vessel
Delete it
steep bone
any bear tanks?
chilly brook
I'm not deleting my main @onyx vessel
onyx vessel
Furry
civic rover
im not a hardcore bear player but i do weekly 15s on it
i like bear tanking because it makes sense
civic rover
build rage. spend rage on ironfur. use one of two cooldowns if incoming big damage. use frenzied regeneration if you're getting chunked for whatever reason.
i've been using the hidden appearance
chilly brook
I got the mage tower on all tanks
onyx vessel
chilly brook
No regrets
civic rover
i got it on all of them too but i don't use any of them
onyx vessel
civic rover
in legion i would gear up every tank and then play only bear
because bear was op in legion
civic rover
prot in emerald nightmare was really fun
civic rover
but tank balance in legion was really all over the place
civic rover
you had like 2 or 3 tanks that were really really good, and then the rest just flat out felt bad to tank on
steep bone
wasn't bear tank solotanking mythic guldank?
onyx vessel
Prob
civic rover
it was definitely possible
steep bone
i think it was some from method
chilly brook
Shield slam for days
civic rover
i dont remember doing it
only thing i remember well from legion is the wipe counter on avatar and kiljaeden in tomb of sargeras
steep bone
avatar was cool
civic rover
i thought tomb in general was really cool
steep bone
NH/Tomb were my fav raids
civic rover
but my lord kiljaeden prog was not fun'
onyx vessel
woven trellis
hi. so im kinda satisfied with my dps but i feels i should do more, so i want to be sure i have a good dps rotation, i always prioritize TC, then Revenge, then SS on target 3+ and TC, then SS, and Revenge proc only on ST
is there something im doin bad?
woven trellis
i have td3
limpid pawn
Get TD 6
woven trellis
cant for now
limpid pawn
Your rotation seems ok
woven trellis
and by theee time ill be able to afford that, ill be tanking 21s and 22s with the king of pugs i would need a verse build, thats how i feel it
limpid pawn
Nothing wrong with going versatile at that point
woven trellis
im doing 40, 45k dmg meedium., 50k+ on the best keys
feels like i should be doing a 60k
with a TD3 and ilvl 475
honest plinth
too low for td3
limpid pawn
Teeming volcanic week your dps should@be like 80K +
woven trellis
but yeah im talking on the bolstering week
honest plinth
bad week but you still can pull like 8 mobs or so
woven trellis
if i dont we die
xD
i dont think ill bee able to put up a 80k overall on a good week tho
probably a 65k
thats why im here
it feels like im doin someething wrong
but i dont know why
i dont use strength potion
maybe that?
it feeels like keeping the lightfoot potion is a smarter utility in pugs
honest plinth
it seems like you pull small. coz your rotation is
fine
also you should use Potion of Unbridled Fury
woven trellis
they have a hard time stunning and interrupting
still pagoda
i also fell in love with BoD
woven trellis
what kind of damagee would do a unbridled fury
main shoal
Sup since chest trolled me again, what should i wear?
woven trellis
i guess the TD one
woven trellis
got a versatility shield 475 2 weeks ago
i was vry happy
versatility mastery tho 😦
chilly brook
This is how bad blizz is trolling me
That's on my paladin
Meanwhile I got the 475 Mechagon shield on my warrior
woven trellis
i dont see thee issue
woven trellis
what does buns mean
chilly brook
Ye
But I'm saying blizz is trolling me
By giving me a decent shield on my paladin that I just decided to do a random key on for once last week while giving me the worst shield i could possibly ask for on my warrior
It's still worth equipping for the block alone but its buns compared to the rest
chilly brook
Not worth
woven trellis
sure its worth
chilly brook
Block is more than worth sacrificing the secondary stats
chilly brook
Shield is like the one item where its ilvl>all no questions
civic rover
i bought the boe shield on my warrior and my second ilgynoth kill with no bonus roll i get the shield
distant crystal
i think 10 ilvl on a shield is like 1 IF trait worth of block right
~1k
so you could sorta compare like the stats you lose vs the stats of a HoD trait, p sure it's a good bit less than a HoD
still pagoda
@distant crystal 10052 Block value on 475 and 8922 on 460 shield]
distant crystal
oh right it was a 460
civic rover
yikes
distant crystal
wym go turn that TD25 into JY27
novel ruin
@distant crystal I usually dont run rogue in TD so it adds like 2-3min on timer 😦
sick sentinel
just twilight dev into the cages
the cannons is where i always get the big anxiety
grave lily
i'm sure this is in a guide somewhere, but shitty 480 or BiS 465 azerite?
dusk loom
pretty sure the answer is 480
unless you dont have a DC trait on the other two pieces
in which case for keeping 1 DC you would roll the 465
grave lily
dropping bastion just feels rough for like https://www.wowhead.com/item=159455/pauldrons-of-the-horned-horror?bonus=4817:1512&azerite-powers=1
still pagoda
@grave lily Ehhh. What is the other piece?
grave lily
h skitra or tankbuster
still pagoda
you have DC already?
still pagoda
i would use this 480 as a temporary solution
then just scrap and gamble again next reset
or until you get mythic skitra shoulders
timber nest
still pagoda
Lifespeed and Unstable Flames are pretty equal
Blood Siphon is inferior to both
i would personally pick Lifespeed
and it is not just for M+
prot warrior gearing is universal for keys below +23 and mythic raiding
woven trellis
kk
still pagoda
superior strength for 2-3 targets
and Empowered Proximity for 4+
BUT
with how much you pull anyway
it is better to forget about normal strength potions
woven trellis
well
next weeek ill have betteer frieends
so well do bigger pulls
what do u mean by forgetting about normal strength potions btw
im not sure i geat the ideae
still pagoda
their niche is not a place where you use potions :D
Empowered proximity will always be better on pulls bigger than 4 targets
still pagoda
depends on key level and how strong these are
technically, you lose nothing
except for gold if those mobs you pulled are not worth the potion
woven trellis
i see
well
tbh
i dont rly do dungeon that are worth a potion
i just do it when to be professional whem people or me rly want to time a higher keeye
still pagoda
the good example of 3 mob pull worth the potion is 3-4 guardians before the first boss room
but only in high fort keys
still pagoda
yeah
modern brook
new meme time guys
we need 20 brewmasters to fight raden and space taunts out to kite the orbs untilk the cast time for draw essence finishes
civic rover
that sounds epic
dark warren
did u guys noted that the spotter on SoB keep following us instead of stand still?
maiden oriole
Hello. I was wondering if anybody could help me sort out why my prot warrior dps feels so low? I'm at 471 ilvl and averaging 30K dps. Not counting twilight 3 proc.
Sorry, I hope links are allowed
novel ruin
are you using procced revenges?
novel ruin
post a screenshot of damage log breakdown
maiden oriole
Sorry, how do get you a damage log?
novel ruin
do you have details?
maiden oriole
yes
novel ruin
click your number
maiden oriole
ok 1 min
novel ruin
itll bring up a log breakdown of your damage
maiden oriole
novel ruin
Here is my breakdown in comparison in ML
All ML
I mean all vers
You arent revenging enough
maiden oriole
Should I only hit revenge on a free proc?
maiden oriole
I don't know. Maybe 3 or 4.
novel ruin
hover over it
maiden oriole
How is your thunderclap hiting so hard?!
novel ruin
itll tell you the number of casts
novel ruin
I cast TC 588 times, Revenge 153
maiden oriole
ok
novel ruin
if you have any more questions, feel free to ask. But make sure you are spending your globals when they come up on something
maiden oriole
Thank you
novel ruin
no problem!\
woven trellis
Hi
So, i Heard this is going to be a good pushing week but how to Handle bursting and big packa
Btw xanthos, even when youre doing big packs you dont use revenge without proc?
novel ruin
@woven trellis No i do not. Ignore Pain gives more value with Anger Management Talent (There is probably a breakpoint of # mobs where its better to just press revenge than IP but I dont know it @ionic fern ?)
On big bursting, press Spell Reflcet
sick sentinel
did they fix the galecaller and her initiates being detached as a pack/
every time I try to pull the leftmost initiate, she comes with
novel ruin
worked for me 2 weeks ago so idk
sick sentinel
maybe it's just an angle thing
undone sun
free revenges don't feed into AM, so a higher number of mobs would only increase free revenge chances
exotic nebula
For mythic+ . Current stat haste 29%, mastery 32%, Verse 37% . which should i use for trkt 470 lingering psychic shell, 475 sigil of warding, 460 void twisted shard or 475 humming dragon scale?
sick sentinel
psychic shell + dragon scale
novel ruin
@undone sun He wasnt talking about free revenges. I was wondering if there was and what it was for a breakpoint were doing normal revenge is better than ignore paining as filler. Like 12 mobs or something
undone sun
right, but the more enemies the lower chance you'll get to use a real revenge
sick sentinel
just don't use rage on revenge
novel ruin
oh true
sick sentinel
ip always triggers AM and all of your dam is going to be thunder clap and TD anyway
novel ruin
Yes
undone sun
pretty much
novel ruin
but there is prob a breakpoint somewhere
undone sun
point is i don't think there is that breakpoint
sick sentinel
i mean
you have to not press revenge accidentally on a proc
for that gcd to be worth it
novel ruin
if we dont know the break point then it doesnt matter
sick sentinel
you have to get rid of a proc somehow to cast revenge with rage
broken shuttle
hey guys, new here
novel ruin
yes
sick sentinel
a cancelaura into a cast macro would work
novel ruin
just show your back
broken shuttle
switched my spec from fury to prot
novel ruin
never parry
broken shuttle
so new to this whole tank thing
sick sentinel
welcome to tank
broken shuttle
🙂 im excited
novel ruin
welcome to our wonderfui discord
broken shuttle
my main is a DH havoc but i wanted a change of scenery
sick sentinel
i don't evne play prot warrior :kekw
veng owns
esp since i got m nzoth ring today :pog
broken shuttle
woot woot grats!
exotic nebula
thanks @sick sentinel 👍
broken shuttle
interesting that you guys share similar corruption metas as DHs do
woven trellis
Cant believe u Never spend rage on revenge doing big packs m'y whole life is a lie
novel ruin
in SL we might
minor badger
@ wait. No revenge big packs what?
minor badger
Oh yah ok
woven trellis
so ivee just read your guide xanthos, very concisee, i loved it
i have a question tho
can u explain why Major Lucid dreams is making me having 2 berseker in a row
limpid pawn
Avatar you mean
Because you get so much rage you can spam ignore pain non stop
That causes anger management to reduce the cd of avatar a huge huge amount
Giving you two uses of avatar for those big pulls
civic rover
along with the fact that you're leeching for like half your max hp every thunderclap
novel ruin
thank you, i appreciate it!
woven trellis
so i did
Workshop
and it looked like there was a lot more aoe of fire than usual
so i checked the abilities
is there a way of getting less roaring flames
?
novel ruin
no, just more comes out the longer the fight
woven trellis
i see
cant find the name of the shield ability on the trash close to this boss
looking for the tooltip of what it does exactly
sweet summit
Reduces damage taken while standing inside the shield by like 75% iirc
dark lark
Stupid general tank question question that I figured out months ago but forgot the answer to: When tanking Ra-den in p1, what's the best sequence to bring adds to you? Between tank swap and grabbing adds, we don't have enough taunts (besides leap reset). Should MT grab first add (nightmare for us), and OT goes out and grab second add (vita for us), then 8 seconds later taunt boss off?
humble drum
what major essence is best for mythic vex if you are grabbing the adds?
dark lark
@humble drum i still just run crucible major, vision minor because you need priority damage more than aoe spam imo.
humble drum
ive been running crucible major, was just wondering if there could be anything better
dark lark
Nah, just avatar clap demoshout clap 🙂
humble drum
twilight dev is nice too
sick sentinel
yo guys, can anyone help me, what do you think will do more dmg, full vers so i have 61% baseline + conflict stacks(91%) or one td r3(35%+51%)? i mean in theory twillight will do around 20% of my dmg, so full vers will be same dmg right? or is my logic wrong?
sick sentinel
it s just one r3 td and rest vers
mellow patio
TD will give you better damage output
sullen cipher
hello all.. got a question. what corruptions should I use for Mythic Raiding? I got Verse corruptions for Mythic Dungeons, but not sure what to use to Raid.
sullen cipher
TD for Mythic Raids?
mellow patio
Yes
undone sun
just like how TD is for keys lower than ~25s, it's that way for raids
sullen cipher
i need help.. do I use 2 TDs?
mellow patio
As much as you can put on
sullen cipher
i ffeel bad. was trying to copy top Prot tanks with the corruptions they use
undone sun
sullen cipher
mellow patio
Lots of people do. But it’s overkill for most content. They have very specific reasons for running what they do
sullen cipher
its up now
undone sun
sullen cipher
is this for US?
undone sun
there's an option at the top
mellow patio
chants USA
undone sun
for EU and NA
sullen cipher
woops. thanks yeah I got the TD 3 now. need 1 more i guess
humble drum
this week i took off a td and put on an IT along with rank 3 verse amps in m+
mellow patio
Lame
sullen cipher
what keys are you doing mitchell
humble drum
20s and 21s this week
mellow patio
But your damage
brittle owl
i don't agree with pandas often
humble drum
last week i ran r3 td
humble drum
you will in shadowlands xd
sullen cipher
is there a place where I can recruit people?
brittle owl
vers "men"
sullen cipher
wanna do a full TD run for ToS +19??? XD
brittle owl
there is a channel here i think
humble drum
everyone will not be used to actually taking damage in shadowlands
its gonna be funny
sullen cipher
nvm. we cant heal the last boss LOL
ionic fern
Same.
mellow patio
Forced not to make mistakes by refusing to cushion myself with the vers pillow suit
brittle owl
are you ready for sl mwahi
humble drum
get a prot pally guardian and bm monk to heal last boss
ionic fern
No.
ionic fern
👍
humble drum
from what ive seen prot warrior is getting gutted
undone sun
so many layers
mellow patio
Gutted is a mind set
ionic fern
I won't pin anything
ionic fern
So you will be forced to copy-paste and answer 24/7
mellow patio
Hate
ionic fern
😂
brittle owl
i wanted to math out how many "tuning knobs" they have in SL
i stopped when i realized it's in the millions
mellow patio
It is going to be wild
warm plinth
@ionic fern wtb...
Friend role
humble drum
they should remove covenant abilites, that will solve one system issue
ionic fern
👀
mellow patio
They keep trying to stop players from finding BiS... but they always will
ionic fern
But i want it.
brittle owl
there's no friends here
undone sun
🤣
mellow patio
Leech role when
mellow patio
Jokes on you I got siphoner out of my box
ionic fern
undone sun
🚪 👈
brittle owl
avoidance being coded as an absorb when
sharp rover
How do you make the first boss in Shrine cast Sea Blast so you can reflect it?
ionic fern
No one in range of him.
sharp rover
So I tell my melee to step out of range so I can reflect?
humble drum
something i learned a few weeks ago was you can reflect the toxic monstroisities in junkyard on their cast that reels you in
gives them the debuff
mellow patio
There’s a list of stuff you can reflect in #268491842637660160
shadow bay
triple deafening crash or double+brace for impact for m+?
static salmon
Is it worth runnin Jes' Howler (475) for m+?
my current trinket setup is vita + sigil
460
shadow bay
i used to run jew 475 until today
replaced with wrathions 475 on one warrior, nzoth's trinket on the other
so why not, some small buff to your group
static salmon
what should I use it instead of?
ionic fern
Sigil.
shadow bay
one's from nzoth thats for sure
ionic fern
@buoyant walrus
That's wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too many Devastate casts.
buoyant walrus
RIP
ionic fern
And the amount of TC casts is way too low as well for the duration.
Your log is kinda wonky so i can't see everything properly tho.
buoyant walrus
did i upload it wrong?
ionic fern
Probably not - maybe started logging like half way through or something.
buoyant walrus
i typed in the /combatlog right as key was inserted
ionic fern
I can't go too in-depth right now with the log but you have to start pressing TC/SS/Revenge before even thinking about pressing Devastate. It's your lowest priority ability only to be used when you have nothing else to press.
To give a point of reference.
You had 411 casts of Devastate, in a run i recently did i had 100 - roughly same duration.
And around double your TC casts.
Are you using TC every second GCD during Avatar?
buoyant walrus
Got it....and i believe i am but ill have to go back and watch the video, i get so tunnel visioned sometimes that i dont pay attention
buoyant walrus
yes! im waiting for it to upload so i can share and get better insight