fire mage still did 30k dps\
#protection
civic rover
still pagoda
3k is a trap
warm plinth
Is there a trick to that trash pull though for real
Because it never goes clean for us
still pagoda
@steep bone https://open.spotify.com/album/7fy6Wpnn5NZllJzUXDeDpS
since you've said "i can't play without music" and dropped the synthwave bomb
civic rover
it does reduce 50% magic damage
civic rover
if no important casts are coming up and there's magic damage its not a god awful idea
civic rover
like setting a kick order?
still pagoda
constantly being vocal
civic rover
i have to turn off push to talk because i tell everyone what to do all the time
still pagoda
when usually i'm the one who talks the least
civic rover
im vocal because i know if im not someone fucks up
still pagoda
yeah
still pagoda
i also talk really quietly
civic rover
i dont even know what youre gonna say brollikk but i know its gonna be funny
still pagoda
limpid pawn
during this wipe, people were being stupid about soaking - so I started saying in discord "soak soak, get in the orb - over and over"
civic rover
i have a pretty deep voice which i think is why people listen to me
limpid pawn
other tank (a guy in his 50s) screams "SHUT THE FUUUUUUCK UP"
civic rover
LMAO
limpid pawn
we wipe
limpid pawn
after that, I completely give up ever trying to communicate with other tank (still other tank in my guild btw)
civic rover
my tank and I bullshit with each other while we raid
limpid pawn
wonder what dats like mane
civic rover
everyone else is quiet as fuck and we're just joking around the whole 3 hour period
it's pretty fun
limpid pawn
one day for sure 😮
civic rover
until one of us rips aggro with 3 TD procs and then were like "wait fuck oh god"
@steep bone i saw the mage blow up the box
limpid pawn
td = taunt
steep bone
yeah
steep bone
i was like 
civic rover
we dont even taunt on skitra anymore
we just wait til one of us procs TD a bunch
our dps burst it so fast i dont even think we get more than 15 of the stacks
still pagoda
get that for DPS CD's of other people
still pagoda
small party frames
steep bone
not that
still pagoda
hmm...
steep bone
i just dont have them anymore
xD
and forgot to instal again
oh ye i wanted to copy naowh so bad that i deleted it
cuz he doesnt use that
jjust healer sac and am i think
still pagoda
that's why i don't copy stuff exactly like it looks
still pagoda
just write a SR macro
steep bone
!Tw1sVnUnq4FnfO9WMyzzKM2BoUArdGRSHPY6UxOdTeLe7ktkqs5h7H8BVZmuYp2nfOhwGaf6HZJVz(MzipINXzkEAu844hI4mhNn(UOF9UOXC2ooRa)d040IYsN0Zt)W4h5mHoV2yxAuApNnljnlzfNLBmnfMdA2bvRK)0fbjfvs(wWQCVYODO7CEH1dhaZvAv)Ps4ORMod)YBvvvslQEkbYEbHJI8VaoSZB4SoNCJyRZy3(xMckWvsT0QYz1Mdl0qWG)pT5G4eKBAXoPleo0o8QQ8ceDfYTDLLzNaSZ(ZK5l)4lZHar)eqRVdmUtl3lXuoeyxRSPjfCipDC8VnEeQaKlS2gXjaNSELN1xgE71LwtLv6CV96pZqB)LaiiRayBLIg2zFYOJV96kzzJKQC9q(Sgp1dHNl6Zix3wkMlTYs1rWdltMp)IygKFO4nZMYY2WYMUkl4YBRxpfegQXWpk6SIq4JOYM(kI4)UstCiY47Lzb9j2j9drJcSUxA1IMpbmm6704yo7lsz7uiLY9RWis9mA1Uq0VQRPNw0gn8vkCsOHqQR81GBUG3n9KNm3OHkePy2fdbqStO0)aD35(3Fqo0JnLoO1d0NgG2puSMqK6kzv)8u)aI8OFd9P0yHQ2M2nE1o5MwRmxfmC0vAXz)uB)pD1cOdDMPXydEdumDm9nM(obf6h0w2u2p7p9LSf9sXzcKQYxRkGmLnLMrcWrDuweeN(WKH1hFEyLYaO(NoNxvE6YgfRbg8KzewtxKMCEESBBibiZYVc2reSJiyh9nWU0Gio5ylocc9O3K7FhycI)7Vv8bJTyTvafU1NpD27b2BXlzZFMalvwEVvL0n7bozBdng)omx4aCfWGfxfdM6R4(MrdvXVdHVtdqXjyTNkhAHOMQAPQQgSycysJrq73Xj(8gHZnm(JJH0sCsio8P0vaAzRNUA1ZlGKyxxJxnSTMu)IwyF(T3JW(kV0ctYNUvhpUbe7OdLrvoUY5)b5skIO22a5M336(97V)GOYCNYCF528hx(sXdL3p5Ydsyh1FOCcO6xGwcTUqLCr7WZt4wof(Y3NwEqpzDz8NHT5F1y2rvzA5psAM8ZdKpokEeCfA0TRThOPpAHn2HeJnBvsskCrtBTaZb4btA0a5Jsup89nF4ki3kvvdVuIXJAyooW6r4EtNC3E8bNO7gDxmztHYFZQH8AjSm)QhrrFVxyvynGZm6HhPqPnDY(sBETqxjV4MWDq8BTMwjXGxTHYpqJd1z6fQlll67(Ht7b)nzmgc()(d
civic rover
thanks my guy
steep bone
welcome
civic rover
i mean the only thing im noticing just by watching like half of it that xanthos probably already went over
you're sometimes a bit slow to use shield block
civic rover
but like 1.5 seconds with no blocks probably won't kill the key
just don't get a pepega mage
steep bone
steep bone
oh
can you link me the "SPELL REFLECT DONT KICK" wa
@civic rover it's dont fucking kick
civic rover
😳
steep bone
getting roasted 
civic rover
but he's a good person to get roasted by
steep bone
truuu
tawdry prawn
Are prot wars running surging vitality now that having 2 IT and rest vers% will put us under 40?
warm plinth
2 IT and the rest vers% is 47 right now
tawdry prawn
When that gets us under 40 tho I mean
warm plinth
My best guess is maybe do an IT2 instead of 2x IT1 and add another vers% but idk. I'm not what you'd call a theorycrafter
tawdry prawn
Yes I need
warm plinth
That'd put you at 55 at max resist
chilly brook
might as well get a TD if you can swing it under 60
What content are you doing @tawdry prawn
warm plinth
Well if you went to 1 IT you could I guess
tawdry prawn
Keys
warm plinth
The issue is we're going to be running out of slots before we run out of CR
chilly brook
Keys is pretty general
tawdry prawn
I’m just curious what the meta will b if anyone knows
Once 2 IT1 and rest vers% will be under 40
chilly brook
world first keys, 25's, 20s, 15s?
tawdry prawn
25
chilly brook
Then running an extra vers might be it
warm plinth
Problem is that if you run SV, you're going to run lower than you probably need to
Because you'd be like 7 vers% which is 140, then 35 for SV3, then 12 for IT puts you at 187
chilly brook
Is GW amped by vers?
warm plinth
That's 52 corruption, so you can't really go up there
Yeah
But you can't do It2 either because then you're at 68
er, 70
I think it'd be better to do 8 vers and then IT2 if anything
chilly brook
I wonder if you'd gain more DPS from a GW than a SV at that point then with vers stacking
or that extra versatile
warm plinth
Eh, I mean, at that level of key, the tank's DPS going up a tiny bit isn't going to matter I wouldn't think, since you have a mage and a hunter doing most of your damage
chilly brook
Every little bit matters
And I would think you're already at a pretty DR'd vers return heavy vers stacking
warm plinth
Consistency is what matters at that level for a tank though, not eeking out 1 corruption slot's worth of damage
chilly brook
Nah I get that
warm plinth
But idk, like I said I'm not a TC. I might be way off base
chilly brook
I just question how much more consistent you'd actually be at that point
Cuz people are doing 30s for example with current corruption budget
warm plinth
I don't think they're gonna give up IT altogether so you're gonna have that taking up 1 slot. So the call is basically what do you put in the 9th one.
warm plinth
yeah probably not
chilly brook
Tbh at that key level though as long as you're not dying just run what makes it easier for you to do your job for the group
So you're probably going to be buying a few different corruptions to try out for that last part of your budget and experimenting @tawdry prawn
warm plinth
I could also kinda see them just chilling at 29 lol
sick sentinel
i tried that dratnos route again on a 15, didn't time it again
warm plinth
Imagine being that beefy and not even having GD to worry about
sick sentinel
got screwd at the cannons
chilly brook
Canons/3rd boss is where everyone messes TD up
warm plinth
Not that I imagine GD does much at that level of vers
Yeah especially with a pug since you can't really count on having a pro cannon player with you heh
sick sentinel
i wouldn't be surprised if some of the people here think i'm being paid everytime i mention tol dagor
chilly brook
You kinda gotta take TD routes with a grain of salt in your evaluation of if they work or not because of that
It could be a really effective route that doesn't get timed because someone didn't do cannons properly or because you wipe on 3rd boss
sick sentinel
spanish hunter was saying, kill gator, skip 2nd cannnon
warm plinth
we skip the first cannon in our route because we cba dealing with mobs getting pulled through the wall
sick sentinel
he claims better to skip
civic rover
Don’t let huntards tellyou how to tank the dungeon
chilly brook
What is better is whatever works for the group especially in a pug
warm plinth
Indeed. Even if you have to do small cannon pulls, if it means you don't die and the pack does, it's probably worth it
vs pulling a larger one that causes a wipe
civic rover
cannons are the only reason i hate pugging TD
because no one knows how to do it right lmao
sick sentinel
i hate pugging TD because everything
basically required to have a rogue to unlock cages since its like 0.5 1.0 or 1.5 second unlock cast time vs 5 for scrolls and keys
tyranical korgus, do i even need to say more?
warm plinth
Yeah. Doubles is pretty shit still though
still pagoda
tyranical korgus, do i even need to say more?
@sick sentinel make them use def cds on doubles
Otherwise it's a dead key
still pagoda
?
warm plinth
Xanthos telling you how it is?
still pagoda
steep bone
i was doing stuffs out of my muscle memory
like ip instead of block
but tbh, on keys im doing
it doesnt punish enough
to make it noticed
warm plinth
Garbage warrior smh my head
still pagoda
Examples? FUCKING SIEGE
civic rover
the damage in take when running no vers vs full vers is so nuts though
steep bone
Examples? FUCKING SIEGE [2]
warm plinth
Wdym marauders are a blast
civic rover
i did a 22 freehold with no vers and then did a 22 temple with a hybrid build and it was literally like a 15
steep bone
i mean fh feels like its 15 even on 20 ngl
novel ruin
Once you go vers you just sleep
civic rover
not this week with second boss
civic rover
people not going behind eudora 😐
novel ruin
And cry cuz you don’t do anymore damage
rigid sinew
vers users
steep bone
isnt your overall with full vers not so far from full td
rigid sinew
lord nome i have failed u
steep bone
i mean you do way higher keys
still pagoda
people not going behind eudora 😐
@civic rover
Their own problems lol
steep bone
and bigger pulls
still pagoda
And not your fault
novel ruin
You lose about 7-10k dps running full vers losing A TD3
steep bone
im gonna stay in my comfort full td sub 20 zone 
main vault
Yeah the difference isn’t as bad for Warriors
civic rover
i wonder how much of a difference it is on monks
since they have low hp pools and dont prioritize haste
steep bone
wish me luck
main vault
On Bear you lose about 1/3 your dmg
still pagoda
im gonna stay in my comfort full td sub 20 zone
@steep bone
Aight. Since I've got claw on my monk at last, it's time to propell you out of your comfort zone
main vault
Monks want Vers anyways
sick sentinel
i gotta take a break from wow tonight getting way too tilted
main vault
The Maut weapon sucks for Bear
rigid sinew
maut wep is like useless lol
civic rover
my monk is full TD now but on prog he had like TD 2 SV3 rest vers amps because i had nothing else
rigid sinew
go feral for that
main vault
Yeah bis for Feral, instant cleanse for Bear
civic rover
i really like bear tanking i just dont feel like grinding out a fourth character
steep bone
anyone wanna laugh @ me in td?
still pagoda
main vault
Ill have a giggle
civic rover
yes
steep bone
ill record xd
civic rover
stream it
warm plinth
Supposed to stream so we can laugh live
warm plinth
tbh I won't watch though because I'm about to do keys of my own
main vault
you dont have to see for us to laugh
steep bone
we can go on disc voice
novel ruin
Imagine doing keys this week 😮
steep bone
and i can stream for memes
warm plinth
Each ping will be 1 laugh
rigid sinew
imagine doing keys at all
warm plinth
Just for alts/to finish the weekly Xanthos; we did our weekly no leaver for mains already
novel ruin
Though I may have to do a 24 Atal tonight
steep bone
this ur gonna be score upgrade tho
steep bone
stream pls @novel ruin
novel ruin
Maybe I’ll set up twitch stream finally
rigid sinew
isnt that just bttv
civic rover
my internet cant handle streaming
rigid sinew
unless u meant actually make ur own emotes
civic rover
idk what it is, it runs everything else super fast but the second i stream my friends tell me it looks like shit
main vault
shit upload
civic rover
probably
novel ruin
Do I need obs to stream?
civic rover
my upload speed is pretty shit iirc
steep bone
no
civic rover
i live in the middle of nowhere
steep bone
you can use many streaming programs
steep bone
xsplit is not free isnt it
main vault
streamlabs pretty bis
warm plinth
I use regular OBS because I have frame drop issues on streamlabs that I couldn't figure out
novel ruin
😮
steep bone
thats enough forlike 720p
main vault
1% upload, what is this, need to fix
novel ruin
That ping though
warm plinth
Nice ping for sure
civic rover
imagine having super fast internet
main vault
still like 40 in game lol
civic rover
my download is sub 50 mbps 😐
steep bone
warm plinth
You wanna see some good ping?
steep bone
bail [1] / not bail [0]
main vault
1
warm plinth
main vault
look at that
civic rover
what speed test is that
main vault
half my dl, 3x my ul
main vault
Yeah I use Cox and they use speedtest anyways
civic rover
AT&T 😐
steep bone
civic rover
dont wanna hear any of yall bitching about your speeds
steep bone
yikes
warm plinth
Jesus christ
main vault
literally wouldnt play
warm plinth
Still better ping than me 😂
civic rover
AT&T
warm plinth
Oh you said
civic rover
middle of nowhere
civic rover
its 250 ms for a week then its 2k
warm plinth
:kekw
still pagoda
warm plinth
God damnit Mwahi fix your server
steep bone
My phone internet is pretty cool too actually
warm plinth
Tbh Leif would probably be better off with phone hotspot lol
civic rover
my phone is a solid hotspot ngl
its not much of a difference last i checked
but its more stable
steep bone
tbh providers scamming with upload speed
its not 2000s where you didn't uploaded stuff
or sending an email took few mins
he swapped
warm plinth
Yeah, I'm like 6 miles too far north or I'd have Google Fiber pepehands
steep bone
how much is 6miles of fiber cable
civic rover
i think fiber might be making its way to around me
warm plinth
I'm in their pilot city so literally in one of the very few spots that doesn't have it lol
sick sentinel
i would physically pick up and move my house 6 miles
warm plinth
lol
limpid pawn
Yo check this out my first few days on my monk I’d get messages like this
main vault
0/10 screenshot
icy harness
It's not because you're a monk
It's because you're a furry
Also I bet you only ride like 2 mounts
And you have all of them bound
civic rover
shit talking mounts lmao
novel ruin
I have my mounts key kind though I usually click em lol
mellow patio
Mount click gang
civic rover
i bind an opie wheel of mounts
sick sentinel
steep bone
it depleto
sick sentinel
this came across my FB just now and its how i feel
steep bone
@novel ruin actually been pressing my buttons more this time, damn that was so much smoother 'n better
@civic rover if you wanna i can get that miserably fail 16min rip key on 2nd boss on youtube
novel ruin
@steep bone good, I’m glad 🙂
steep bone
but reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee underrot is my bane
i guess ill be taking spiders one by one
novel ruin
Usually always take swarmers one by one
steep bone
i didn't mean to pull two or more swarmers at once
but to literally pull only swarmer and nothing else
like blobs
novel ruin
Ohhh, yeah, you could but I don’t suggest it.
steep bone
i did
swarmer
larva few blobs
basically right side
without few first mobs
anyway
good memes
- pala is chilling close to maggot - it just spawned is fine
- pala moved to larva but doesn't give a single F to soak it
- i have to soak it
- pala baits to africa&stays next to his larva not soaking again
- pala dies to aggro
- courtain
novel ruin
@steep bone you play EU?
steep bone
yes
novel ruin
Late for you
steep bone
its 4;37am right now
i promised myself to fix sleeping schedule but i guess it ends on promises
novel ruin
That hits home
steep bone
😮
novel ruin
Skip the 1st floor
steep bone
didnt thought about turtles
novel ruin
Do 2nd floor
steep bone
by 1st floor you mean... the one with crocodiles?
novel ruin
Have good classes to do massive 10pack pull onto first cannon from 3rd floor
No, first floor is where blob ob is
Croc floor is basement
icy harness
NaM weebs out
steep bone
nah that doesnt seem doable
sick sentinel
"Pure hell" "like Hitler designed a dungeon"
steep bone
it's pure hell design wise tho
by leaping you can pull upper floor, by proccing td you can pull through walls
novel ruin
Then I’ll do some trash there and skip corridor trash to 2nd floor
steep bone
i leaped in pipes after 1st boss and i pulled that guy who stands at door
hmm, do you have mdt for that by any chance?
sick sentinel
Bro, I seen my td go onto of the roof what you go outside
steep bone
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ofc beach done in like 3 pulls this week
novel ruin
Not online currently
sick sentinel
I'm pretty sure that's the matrix
novel ruin
But when I’m on, I will
Which will prob be tomorrow
TD is also my worst dungeon (besides maybe Siege), I go out of my way to avoid it
steep bone
i gotta chill
novel ruin
Pull trash onto all the bosses
steep bone
actually start of first boss is giga easy
novel ruin
I usually do a sub 5 key once or twice a week
steep bone
i do these cuz why not to help some dudes get some 430s
sick sentinel
Why
novel ruin
My favorite comment is when I was asked if I was lost rofl
steep bone
mine is 'I don't think if i put 13 by accident but this is +3'
novel ruin
Cuz I’m usually tilted from a previous run and want to unwind. And that feeling of being able to pull an entire dungeon faster than an MDI is amazing.
Had a ML 4 once be done in 7-8min
steep bone
Why
@sick sentinel when i was making my way to all 15s and beyond and i was still gearing i had few times pumpers joining my dungs and it felt really nice so im doing the same + some guys really struggle with such keys and they're super happy with getting that 5 or 7 done for weekly
sick sentinel
I want to keep running 15s but each time I fail it I get more and more upset
steep bone
and what xanthos said
novel ruin
Dps you are a human. Healers can feel like Demi-gods but as a tank in low keys, You are a GOD
sick sentinel
T d 15s
steep bone
you are deffo god
steep bone
im completing versa set and so far ive like 32%
novel ruin
That’s pretty good
steep bone
i mean like 15-16% on defensive part of vers
novel ruin
I was around 30/31 in my hybrid set
civic rover
yeah my hybrid set has me at like 32 with most pieces having vers
sick sentinel
You know that is true what you say about helping some people that are just excited to play the game and have fun and they prolly don't give a fuck what they get out of weekly box
steep bone
they are happy trust me ;d
i had a guy whispering me few days after that he's so happy that i did weekly for him
sick sentinel
Crit mastery and void ritual, looks good to me
civic rover
i'm in one of those communities for like mythic+ noobs and i took four people into their first +10 on my scuffed druid tank
novel ruin
Or I do the run to warmup before raid/ more serious keys
civic rover
probably oneof the most fun keys ive done tbh
people actually listened and people at least had semi optimized corruptions
novel ruin
Plus it helps to show that higher end players aren’t all elitist jerks
civic rover
the mage was like "damn im only doing like 60k with combust up do you know why" and she was like 452 ilvl with no mastery amps
like bruh thats not bad dps
for your gear
steep bone
thats on sisters, wtf
civic rover
lmao lit
civic rover
idk sometimes im just bored and maybe need echoes on an alt so im like "hey who wants to bang heads on some 10 key
warm plinth
You sure you can handle that M0 @steep bone ?
sick sentinel
Only thing I truly want in life now is half life 3 and not half life 4 revenge of the vortigaunts
That game to me says the only thing any of us truly "have" is time
steep bone
this td procced like twice more than it usually does
ayylmao
@sick sentinel i was hyped for half life until they announced it to be VR. VR is cool but this kind of gameplay is not ready yet, good for some indie games but not AAA+ titles 
sick sentinel
1998 Hl1: why do I need a new cpu to run this game
Holy crap this game is amazing
2004Hl2: why do I need a new gpu card to run this game
Holy crap this game is amazing
2020 hl:a why do I need a vr headset for this
Holy crap this is amazing
modern brook
Smh half life more like halve my life
sick sentinel
Question: have you actually played a valve game?
civic rover
tf2 baby
grand drum
the real question is if valve can count to 3
steep bone
as long as valve gonna make money out of their cs game they won't do shit
steep bone
you know what i mean
civic rover
hasn't it been like 5 years since tf2 got an actual update
modern brook
It's been at least that long since it's been good
Sorry I'm mad
Xfinity is fucking me and I just found out my car battery died
sharp night
regal dune
Is there a better choice between trinkets you have to use vs. trinkets that have a chance to proc?
Trying to choose between Badge and Insignia.
https://www.wowhead.com/item=172668/corrupted-gladiators-insignia?bonus=4802#comments
https://www.wowhead.com/item=172669/corrupted-gladiators-badge?bonus=4802#comments
supple cloak
technically, on use gives you more control over situations
ie you know you're going to be doing a bigger pull in this dungeon and you can plan to use badge, or in raid you know that you need help contribute to a burst window to push to next phase
but if you're new and it's overwhelming to add another button, or you just cba
insignia is just fine
generally i run one proc trinket and one on use trinket (in my case, psychic shell)
sick sentinel
@modern brook hope things get better friend
regal dune
@supple cloak Appreciate the info!
gilded zodiac
what race do ppl play as a tank? :
dark lark
No to vulpera
strong forum
Vulpera is a strong yes from me
civic rover
pandas because im fat irl so i might as well be fat in wow
civic rover
and my mog is beautiful
hallow phoenix
You need the frying pan
hallow phoenix
Tru
civic rover
the amount of whispers i get regarding my mog makes me very happy
im assuming you play troll?
dark lark
The lumberjack shirt is pretty nice
hallow phoenix
Reduced hit box size is nice too
brittle owl
that's not the only thing that got reduced
strong forum
Amount of declined invites also reduced. True
sweet summit
brittle owl
royal rune
TC doesnt slow right? It only roots with cns major
royal rune
Ah so sphere of suppression is only really providing 10% when claping
sweet summit
Ya i guess
brittle owl
slows overwrite themselves, with the highest one taking precedence
so no, sphere isn't providing 10% per se, it's overwriting TC completely
lofty widget
just unlocked the hidden artifact appearance but i cant see it in my transmog tab, anyone else had that problem?
strong forum
Try checking in at the artifact tablet in skyhold and relog
tulip saddle
A random mage just told me that TD is capped to 24%, is that true?
still pagoda
A random mage just told me that TD is capped to 24%, is that true?
@tulip saddle
No
tulip saddle
thought so, ty 🙂
still pagoda
there's different capping system that starts reducing damage of TD past 5 targets
but it doesn't make TD obsolete or weak
tulip saddle
ok cool cool, TD7 can stay 😄
sweet summit
sharp rover
brittle owl
it does
strong forum
What makes you think it doesn't
raven knoll
is cns major still worth running when with versa gear and you have something like an assa rogue that removes the root?
modern brook
as an assa rogue
dont play with an assa rogue
they're literally double inting by not playing hunter and also not playing outlaw
raven knoll
i see thanks! talking about vers. when running nearly full amps how much versa should i have outfight? like how much is „enough“
hahhaha
still pagoda
dont play with an assa rogue
they're literally double inting by not playing hunter and also not playing outlaw [2]
the spec is just...
though it works in terms of DPS
kinda
if you've got a good assa rogue
sure
run with him
modern brook
nah it works Super well u just gotta pull around it and shit
raven knoll
i mean i still love rogues for theire utility but true
modern brook
which is like
still pagoda
99% of them are garbo though
modern brook
LOL why would u pull around a class that tops out at like 400k in omega pulls
just play around ur combust instead
assa can consistently hit 100k in every pull thats its benefit imo
it doesnt need cooldowns to do damage and when it has them its really big
but in coordinated play; "not needing cooldowns" is fairly obsolete
IMO
raven knoll
youre right yep. but i get why ppl cba playing outlaw and farm slappers
modern brook
I say i hate outlaw cause its snoozercity
but in reality i hate outlaw cause i dont get why i dont do omega damage :/
also @still pagoda thanks :^)
modern brook
@modern brook hope things get better friend
@sick sentinel @still pagoda for what pastures said i thought it was you get rekt lol thanks pastures :^)
still pagoda
Xfinity is fucking me and I just found out my car battery died
@modern brook
It is not as bad as having right wing and wheel control arm demolished by a loose spare truck wheel detaching and ramming into the car
sick sentinel
neither are as bad as ur cereal getting soggy after 15 minutesa
still pagoda
that impact was enough to stop the car immediately
sweet summit
I hate soggy cereal
brittle owl
neither are as bad as ur cereal getting soggy after 15 minutesa
this is also not as bad as finding out you don't have enough milk a quarter of the way to filling yout bowl
still pagoda
it is not as bad as finding out you don't have enough eggs for breakfast for the whole family
though this happens so rarely
strong forum
this is also not as bad as finding out you don't have enough milk a quarter of the way to filling yout bowl
Yea thats always a huge disappointment, but filling your bowl with cereal and then not having any milk is even worse tbh
brittle owl
idk i find failing right after starting to be more soulcrushing
strong forum
Na you can still make it work with too little milk
But no milk at all is just ending before it even started
raven knoll
@strong forum can you tell me how much versa is "normal" when having full versa gear + amps? like is there a certain number i should have?
strong forum
Between 45-60%
60% if you have vers heavy in every slot + alch trinket
45% if you have vers in every slot without alch trinket and not vers heavy gear
raven knoll
i see these are outfight numbers or?
strong forum
Ye, without any buffs
raven knoll
i see thanks! i hope i can reach that next week
brittle owl
but why
novel ruin
Cuz he wants to sleep
winter sand
Okay random question:
Does all of our abilities have a chance to procc TD? And are the procc chance equal?
*by all abilities I mainly mean thunderclap, revnege, shield slam and devastate - but what about taunt and pummel? (did I forget any abilities?)
brittle owl
yes
they all can proc it
but get this
autoattacks can proc it as well
so can other procs
brittle owl
those 2 together means it's mostly irelevant to think about it
since you saturate your proc chance simply by autoattacking
limpid pawn
Video of my psychus group point of view from last night
I posted on Reddit competitive wow to ask for log review, several Guildies feel personally attacked and chime in the thread. Hilarity ensues
Just watch the video, I’m the brewmaster. Let me know if you guys see any glaring mistakes.
(On my end)
sick sentinel
post reddit thread
limpid pawn
It’s the pathing the raid leader insists we use
Good for ranged to dps, horrible for melee
sweet summit
youre like going back and fourth, going past your bodies and shit
sweet summit
we do this
limpid pawn
Main difference being I drag it all the way to 7 for final anguish
brittle owl
wait you're psychus 1?
limpid pawn
I’m psychus 2
limpid pawn
brittle owl
the original one that your guild painted over is superior
limpid pawn
The Reddit thread lol
brittle owl
since it's easier to drop anguishes in favorable places
sweet summit
yep
limpid pawn
It’s whatever at this point, anguishes are not a problem
I’m only following directions
For reference, the Reddit thread is funny once you watch the video. There are Guildies of mine trying to basically say I shouldn’t even be asking for a log review because I myself have a lot to work on
Which is obviously true, everyone can always improve - but just look at the disparity between psychus 1 success and psychus 2 in our raid. These wipes are NOT my fault
strong forum
Tank bad
Me good
limpid pawn
Same raid from psychus 1 point of view. Starts 3 hours in
I mean, is this even a valid comparison? Lol
I’ve been told from members in that group that the tank is messing up big time - anyone here do psychus 1 and can confirm?
sweet summit
i do psychus 1, ill take a look
limpid pawn
Thank you
sweet summit
i confused your psychus with psychus 1 sry :p
novel ruin
@limpid pawn your link is showing 90 sec video?
sweet summit
first thing i notice is the rogue never touches the fucking synapse or whatever theyre called 
tilt, but u dont need the extra damage it seems
inland silo
do they normally just run past that 6th tentacle
sweet summit
yeah i was thinking about that too
might as well cleave it down as you go towards bodies
sweet summit
i dont think i saw a massgrip from the DK
gorfiends is pog for stopping the casts and grouping the small adds
sweet summit
he did do a mass grip, my bad
imean from what i see, the tank is doing well
what are you wiping to upstairs?
or, messing up
sweet summit
only thing i can think of is fucking up the mindgrast positioning/cc
novel ruin
I understand it happening on progression but 300+ pulls in consistently?
sweet summit
and dying to the anguish?
sweet summit
yeah
limpid pawn
Just watch the video
sweet summit
im watching
limpid pawn
Psychus 1 group dies a TON both downstairs and upstairs
novel ruin
And I’m hot garbo at the fight
limpid pawn
And then evoke 1/2 same people are dying over and over and over
sweet summit
how do you have so many people getting MCed?
limpid pawn
Not a thing I can do to stop that
novel ruin
You need to find new roster
sweet summit
yeah honestly
limpid pawn
I already bought the mount so I don’t care anymore this tier
novel ruin
This is one of the easiest Ces to obtain
limpid pawn
I’ll stay till the very end for the team
inland silo
ive never seen psychus running around the left side of the boss there but i think that matters too much, and running past that 6th tentacle is dumb if they always do that
probably just kill that 6th tentacle and there would never be a problem with damage
novel ruin
I know we skip a tentacle usually cuz we have so much damage in psych 1
inland silo
my raid has the opposite problem though. psychus 2 group is a coinflip whether or not they live through first mindgrasp
wild to me
limpid pawn
I’ve gotten it down to a science, we never die to that
novel ruin
Besides dropping anguish in places, the fight is pretty similar to heroic
limpid pawn
But again 320+ pulls so practice
sweet summit
@inland silo nah they killed the 6th on later pulls
novel ruin
But once corruption is gone
sweet summit
adn psychus running on the left side was just tank being slow into mindgate on the first pull it seems
novel ruin
Everyone should be prior the tentacles and cleaving Psychus
sweet summit
the later pulls look fine honestly
novel ruin
Besides a Fire Mage combust
novel ruin
My parse is 30-40% focusing Psychus 100% of the time. It’s 70+% just cleaving Psychus
sweet summit
and he's running into the psycho casts that drain san
novel ruin
No one is kicking Mindwreck?
sweet summit
they have a kickorder, but miss some now and then
sweet summit
yeah
novel ruin
Mindwreck destroys tank sanity, doesn’t it?
novel ruin
Idk since I haven’t raid tanked
limpid pawn
Their upstairs add management I think is inconsistent
sweet summit
the psychus 1 group?
limpid pawn
And also they don’t always kill psychus in time yes
sweet summit
yeah i noticed
limpid pawn
And his stacks drop as well often
novel ruin
No, just a big hit and his hits hit harder for a bit
limpid pawn
Like it tilts me that someone in that group even breaths my name saying that I shouldn’t be asking for log reviews on reddit
novel ruin
There is literally no point to do any real damage to Psych until he has 4 stacks anyways
novel ruin
How do you have issues with upstairs add management?
limpid pawn
I do not.
limpid pawn
Psychus 1 has the issues
novel ruin
1 has same kick rotation as Psych 1
mellow patio
Boss sucks just kill it
sweet summit
true
limpid pawn
Every time we come out of psychus 2, we almost always have to waste brez on someone
novel ruin
Erga link vod plz cuz the link brollikk gives is only 2min long for some reason
limpid pawn
Or like 2 people are dead
sweet summit
mellow patio
your largest struggle is definitely that pathing imo
limpid pawn
I linked two vods, psychus 1 and 2 POV
mellow patio
It’s just more difficult to execute well, hence why most guilds choose a different path
limpid pawn
Names?
mellow patio
That said your men literally just get shit on by not moving
sweet summit
idk who it was
mellow patio
Lmao erga said same thing
sweet summit
one was a DH, thats for sure
mellow patio
Mage got whacked too I think I saw
sweet summit
imean just link logs and i can see who it is lol
sweet summit
On first glace it looks like almost all induvidual mistakes. Some people farming sanity losing mechanics: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/kq4JWDg7Rr3F6N9y#type=resources&spell=110&pins=2%24Off%24%23244F4B%24expression%24type %3D 'drain' and target.disposition %3D 'friendly' AND ability.id !%3D316271 AND ability.name !%3D'Cataclysmic Flames' AND ability.name !%3D'Black Volley' AND ability.name !%3D'Harvest Thoughts' AND ability.name !%3D'Mental Decay' AND ability.name !%3D'Manifest Madness'&boss=2344&difficulty=5&wipes=1&cutoff=3
comment already stated what i was thinking
limpid pawn
Gotta be joking
sweet summit
idk mate
sweet summit
brittle owl
that reddit is all shades of whack anyway
strong forum
Ya it's a mainly a meme
sweet summit
quality content from time to time tho 👌
limpid pawn
I was asking for a legit log review to fix mythic nzoth issues lol,
strong forum
And I'm not a redditor, but I know that
limpid pawn
They remove it because hurt feelings
warm plinth
It doesn’t show removed to me
brittle owl
you still have feelings probably
strong forum
brittle owl
although, i do remember a screenshot i have @warm plinth 👀
warm plinth
Weird. I didn’t even click the link til after erga posted the removed thing
And it shows fine
You have a screenshot of me?
tame garden
Imagine not wanting help and being fine sitting on nzoth for 500 pulls
sweet summit
this is probably nitpicking but one of your arms warriors are not using defstance
actually inting
tame garden
👌
sweet summit
yeah
sweet summit
just walk out lol
novel ruin
sweet summit
thats the red shit
novel ruin
then here is the red swirlies after a mob dies
warm plinth
Damnit maelkenar!
novel ruin
like wtf
sweet summit
this is looking real good
novel ruin
HOW IS A MAGE AND BM HUNTER GETTING HIT BY THIS SHIT?"??
THE STUFF IS DEAD
DONT HAVE TO GO PEWPEW ANYLONGER
sweet summit
@limpid pawn your raid is actively inting every single pull
novel ruin
^
sweet summit
there is nothing we can do really
brittle owl
except meme
sweet summit
they are dying to heroic mechanics
novel ruin
tell them they need to practice how to walk
brittle owl
novel ruin
Corruption carries so hard
limpid pawn
Ok, will pass along 😂
brittle owl
when all else fails, memes by anime pfp's will got you covered
sweet summit
i guess yeah
limpid pawn
Learn to walk, any other advices
brittle owl
idk think of life choices
limpid pawn
Ok
sweet summit
👀
sweet summit
maybe consider other games?
like bloons tower defense 5? that game is pretty sick ngl
novel ruin
Or find new guild that knows how to walk after 300 wipes
limpid pawn
Lol
brittle owl
maybe try to fix those parenting issues they keep going back to
apologise to that SO they left in the dust that one time
got plenty of advice, need more?
limpid pawn
Is there anything that I am fucking up? The brewmaster
warm plinth
This is where the awkward silences come in
brittle owl
what you're particularily fucking up is mindlessly doing what you're told tbh
speak up when shit is whack
like your psychus pathing
tame garden
Ye tell your rl to fuck off with the wack psychus routr
warm plinth
Don't think anyone is telling him to stand in swirls
sweet summit
go get em speg
warm plinth
I'm just sayin; y'all were hella toxic about his guildies 3 seconds ago. Be honest with the man
tame garden
Theres 0 reason to stray from the strat used by nearly everyone
novel ruin
i am
warm plinth
I wasn't referring to what you said
novel ruin
You shouldnt be getting hit by avoidable mechanics 33% of your pulls after 300+pulls
brittle owl
also yeah, getting hit by red swirlies is whack
novel ruin
Nzoth damage doesnt matter to your group
brittle owl
getting hit by mostly any sanity drain is whack in general
sweet summit
o thats unlucky
tame garden
Its unlucky if you dont speak up
sweet summit
brittle owl
^
tame garden
I shit on my dps when they miss kicks
sweet summit
DK is doing his best to carry kicks
novel ruin
92/175 Mindwracks are going out
brittle owl
i don't shit on them for kicks mostly cause i don't care for stacks on psychus BUT
novel ruin
Should be close to 0
brittle owl
i shit on them for improper dps on tenties
novel ruin
That toop
IT would be one thing if people were focusing tendies and missing kicks
but people are focusing the psychus and STILL MISSING KICKS
sweet summit
@limpid pawn are all of these psychus 2?
novel ruin
warrior and rogue shouldnt be
sweet summit
arms in psychus 2 would be fun to see
novel ruin
or feral lol
novel ruin
Your rogue is inting
limpid pawn
I dunno if they are
novel ruin
Your rogue is playing sin too which is amazing for downstairs
he can bleed the tentacles, bleed the psychus, bleed the adds, like he should be popping off
novel ruin
yes
inland silo
lucid on psychus = more nzoth damage
sweet summit
build ToM?
inland silo
yea it just works out that way
sweet summit
yeah ok that makes sense
inland silo
ive tried it a lot both ways
inland silo
lucid psychus is 100% the play
novel ruin
but his psychus damage is still shit then
sweet summit
but lucid on 2 minutes seems early no? when psychus dies 2.20
your big ToM is gone by then
inland silo
yea def want him to die right as you get ToM
sweet summit
so its like 10 sec early ish
novel ruin
so prob want to press lucid around 5 stacks on Psychus
sweet summit
is massacre the normal play on nzoth now yasuri? neither of them are using it, both are FoB gamers
novel ruin
I believe it is depending on timings, right?
sweet summit
massacre is only better if you get full lucid execute things before toilet right?
inland silo
yea its better if you get lucid execute before and after secret phase
which is pretty normal now
sweet summit
yeah
novel ruin
@inland silo Is Arms ST all Haste/Crit?
novel ruin
ahh