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coral marsh Jul 31, 2020, 5:44 PM

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what is the mythic gimmick of skitra?

strong forum Jul 31, 2020, 5:44 PM

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yolo

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 5:44 PM

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Nothing

strong forum Jul 31, 2020, 5:44 PM

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and its dead

distant crystal Jul 31, 2020, 5:44 PM

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you drag it into a nook

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 5:44 PM

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Stack

main vault Jul 31, 2020, 5:44 PM

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Here is the source article if you want to read

distant crystal Jul 31, 2020, 5:44 PM

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so that the walls never reach you

main vault Jul 31, 2020, 5:44 PM

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https://www.dreamgrove.gg/guardian/diminishing-returns/

On Diminishing Returns | Dreamgrove

I originally wrote this article back in August 2018, and decided to shelve it to focus on other work. Please pardon the dated references to Uldir.
I’ve seen a lot of questions surface recently about diminishing returns — what they are, how they are (or aren’t) related to damag...

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 5:45 PM

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@main vault thank you, will read during lunch

main vault Jul 31, 2020, 5:45 PM

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Its about diminishing returns, but the idea of DR is there

distant crystal Jul 31, 2020, 5:45 PM

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doesn't vers dr cap

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 5:45 PM

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Armor has diminishing returns but vers does not

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?

distant crystal Jul 31, 2020, 5:45 PM

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at like...98% or something

main vault Jul 31, 2020, 5:45 PM

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Armor has diminishing returns from the conversion

modern brook Jul 31, 2020, 5:45 PM

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tfw u still take 2% of damage

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smh

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 5:45 PM

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Until you get to the 99% cap

modern brook Jul 31, 2020, 5:45 PM

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worthless stat tbh

main vault Jul 31, 2020, 5:45 PM

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But not from the value added to EHP

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Okay

main vault Jul 31, 2020, 5:46 PM

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"So when someone claims that “Armor has diminishing returns”, they are correct; Armor is subject to a diminishing returns penalty. However: in terms of effective health gain, every point of Armor grants the same amount of effective health as the previous, and the next. "

strong forum Jul 31, 2020, 5:46 PM

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^

distant crystal Jul 31, 2020, 5:46 PM

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they basically put an artificial handicap on armor

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to make it linear

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and not expontential

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 5:47 PM

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👌

brittle owl Jul 31, 2020, 5:47 PM

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i like how a question about pepega raid strats degenerated into a theorycrafting flex/circle jerk

distant crystal Jul 31, 2020, 5:47 PM

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just another day in paradise

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 5:47 PM

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It was a separate question by me

brittle owl Jul 31, 2020, 5:48 PM

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i will reject this narrative

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and continue with my own

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 5:48 PM

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Lol

brittle owl Jul 31, 2020, 5:48 PM

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for it has better comedic value

main vault Jul 31, 2020, 5:48 PM

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the american way

brittle owl Jul 31, 2020, 5:48 PM

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oh fuck pls no

modern brook Jul 31, 2020, 5:48 PM

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nice comedic value

brittle owl Jul 31, 2020, 5:48 PM

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my headcanon is hilarious tyvm

sweet summit Jul 31, 2020, 5:49 PM

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youre welcome

strong forum Jul 31, 2020, 5:49 PM

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🟡 🤝

distant crystal Jul 31, 2020, 5:49 PM

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📎 Naamloos-1.png

sweet summit Jul 31, 2020, 5:49 PM

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is that a circlejerk nome

distant crystal Jul 31, 2020, 5:49 PM

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headcannon > headcanon

strong forum Jul 31, 2020, 5:49 PM

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It's clearly a circle handshake.

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What you interpret it as, is your own.

distant crystal Jul 31, 2020, 5:50 PM

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i wonder what the highest key timed will be

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in prepatch

sweet summit Jul 31, 2020, 5:50 PM

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15

brittle owl Jul 31, 2020, 5:50 PM

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i think it'll be

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something with 2 digits

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preceded by a "+" pictogram

sweet summit Jul 31, 2020, 5:51 PM

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actually, i think so too

distant crystal Jul 31, 2020, 5:51 PM

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in b4 there's some wonky scaling and ppl are blasting 35s with like

strong forum Jul 31, 2020, 5:51 PM

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You might be onto smth

distant crystal Jul 31, 2020, 5:51 PM

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3 feral druids

strong forum Jul 31, 2020, 5:51 PM

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Yeah nah.

main vault Jul 31, 2020, 5:51 PM

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or only clearing 8s

strong forum Jul 31, 2020, 5:51 PM

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Shrine. Spell reflect fiesta

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Reflect every mechanic

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By rotating taunt reflects

brittle owl Jul 31, 2020, 5:52 PM

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or maybe

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none

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because m+ will be borked

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just straight up not working

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you go in, put the key, nothing happens

strong forum Jul 31, 2020, 5:52 PM

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Removed :poggies:

coral marsh Jul 31, 2020, 5:52 PM

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is the wrath trinket any good?

sweet summit Jul 31, 2020, 5:52 PM

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very

strong forum Jul 31, 2020, 5:52 PM

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Very

brittle owl Jul 31, 2020, 5:52 PM

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is decent

coral marsh Jul 31, 2020, 5:53 PM

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better than rezan?

brittle owl Jul 31, 2020, 5:53 PM

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50-60% uptime

sweet summit Jul 31, 2020, 5:53 PM

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yes

strong forum Jul 31, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Yes

brittle owl Jul 31, 2020, 5:53 PM

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different kind of effect

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averages out better

ionic fern Jul 31, 2020, 5:53 PM

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@wooden radish i'm sorry. 😦 I'm running around currently.

sweet summit Jul 31, 2020, 5:53 PM

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stop copying me

strong forum Jul 31, 2020, 5:53 PM

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🏃

sweet summit Jul 31, 2020, 5:53 PM

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🐌

strong forum Jul 31, 2020, 5:53 PM

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I had a lovely day today. I ain't no snail

📎 20200731_180240.jpg

distant crystal Jul 31, 2020, 5:54 PM

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ew

brittle owl Jul 31, 2020, 5:54 PM

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it's too hot for bikes here

distant crystal Jul 31, 2020, 5:54 PM

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what is that blue thing

sweet summit Jul 31, 2020, 5:54 PM

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looks nice peepoHappy

ionic fern Jul 31, 2020, 5:54 PM

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I have my last motorcycle course this monday, then only exams and i have the license.

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deswind

brittle owl Jul 31, 2020, 5:54 PM

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fucking 40-41 degrees 3 days in a row

strong forum Jul 31, 2020, 5:54 PM

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Big

brittle owl Jul 31, 2020, 5:54 PM

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nois

strong forum Jul 31, 2020, 5:54 PM

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We have comfy 28°

sweet summit Jul 31, 2020, 5:54 PM

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its like 18 degrees here

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very nice

brittle owl Jul 31, 2020, 5:54 PM

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i hate

ionic fern Jul 31, 2020, 5:54 PM

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Roughly same..18-20 degrees.

brittle owl Jul 31, 2020, 5:54 PM

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both of you

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all three*

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with the intensity of the sun here

ionic fern Jul 31, 2020, 5:55 PM

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Good thing it's halved where we're from.

distant crystal Jul 31, 2020, 5:55 PM

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📎 unknown.png

ionic fern Jul 31, 2020, 5:55 PM

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yep

strong forum Jul 31, 2020, 5:55 PM

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With that intensity I'd already have my tan...

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God damn

distant crystal Jul 31, 2020, 5:55 PM

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nothing like hot rain

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nice and steamy out

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i even pressed the celcius button so you euros would feel at home

strong forum Jul 31, 2020, 5:56 PM

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To quote jschlatt
"hot steamy men all over men 10 hot and steamy"

sweet summit Jul 31, 2020, 5:56 PM

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big men fucking 😳

strong forum Jul 31, 2020, 5:57 PM

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Ya I didn't wanna go that far

distant crystal Jul 31, 2020, 5:57 PM

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gachiBASS

strong forum Jul 31, 2020, 5:58 PM

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yep

wooden radish Jul 31, 2020, 6:00 PM

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@ionic fern where are you running

ionic fern Jul 31, 2020, 6:00 PM

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Blizz HQ to get my beta.

brittle owl Jul 31, 2020, 6:01 PM

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:(

📎 Screenshot_20200731-210042.png

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Doesn’t Wraithion trinket have a roughly 75% uptime?

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Not 50-60

sweet summit Jul 31, 2020, 6:02 PM

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if none of the proc overlap

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 6:02 PM

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18C here

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Comfortable so far

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 6:03 PM

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Comfy 75 here. I ain’t no European

brittle owl Jul 31, 2020, 6:06 PM

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F

modern brook Jul 31, 2020, 6:07 PM

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the metric is undeniably better

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but i will die on the hill that for every day purposes, F is better than C

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the difference between 21C and 22C is fucking noticible and thats not ok.

dusk loom Jul 31, 2020, 6:09 PM

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the difference between 21C and 22C is fucking noticible and thats not ok.
@modern brook thats the point haha to not have a range of numbers that you really cant tell the difference over

modern brook Jul 31, 2020, 6:10 PM

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SMH

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thats a shit point

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i just wanna know if i need a jacket

strong forum Jul 31, 2020, 6:16 PM

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Ye around 20 you don't

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Below 18 you do

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Depending on wind

brittle owl Jul 31, 2020, 6:20 PM

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that's still up to you tho?

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i go out to smoke in a tshirt/shirt until -10 C

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even less if there's no wind

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perception of temperature is completely subjective

onyx vessel Jul 31, 2020, 6:25 PM

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should quit smoking

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bonkcat

strong forum Jul 31, 2020, 6:26 PM

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I mean he wanted numbers on which he would need a jacket so I gave an average . I too ride my bike until single digits in short clothing.

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 6:27 PM

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🗞️

coral marsh Jul 31, 2020, 6:36 PM

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what the gimmick of maut mythic?

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and should i roll for maut trinket or dps weapon?

sweet summit Jul 31, 2020, 6:37 PM

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not trinket

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 6:39 PM

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@coral marsh

Curse debuff. Nothing special for tanks. Trinket is one of the worst, 2H is a good intermediate option for arms if you cleanse and until you get 475 Geti'ikku or Mythic N'zoth sword

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also

distant crystal Jul 31, 2020, 6:40 PM

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it's better than geti

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 6:40 PM

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did you tell your monk that he's wrong?

distant crystal Jul 31, 2020, 6:40 PM

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don't @ me

onyx vessel Jul 31, 2020, 6:40 PM

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for arms prob

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 6:41 PM

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Goes off to sim hectic add cleave with geti vs maut 2H

stark sage Jul 31, 2020, 6:41 PM

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maut > geti for arms in almost all real applications

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only pure ST does it really win out

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 6:41 PM

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pretty much

onyx vessel Jul 31, 2020, 6:41 PM

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which is 3 fights

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 6:41 PM

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1 by now

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Shad'har

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peepoHappy

onyx vessel Jul 31, 2020, 6:41 PM

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xanesh

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fight me

distant crystal Jul 31, 2020, 6:41 PM

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fight the adds

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🙂

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 6:42 PM

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anyway i'm gearing fury

onyx vessel Jul 31, 2020, 6:42 PM

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with 1m hp

coral marsh Jul 31, 2020, 6:42 PM

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so how do you tankswap maut?

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 6:42 PM

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🙃

coral marsh Jul 31, 2020, 6:42 PM

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just on dbm?

onyx vessel Jul 31, 2020, 6:42 PM

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good meme

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 6:42 PM

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so how do you tankswap maut?
@coral marsh

You just take first 2 stacks if you're tanking adds

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after application of 2nd

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GO THE FUCK AWAY TO THE FUCKING ADD

distant crystal Jul 31, 2020, 6:42 PM

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usually add tank grabs boss

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takes 2 stacks

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then sits on adds

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repeat next phase

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 6:42 PM

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^

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no tank swaps

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if your co-tank or you die

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it's completely on you and you need to git gud

distant crystal Jul 31, 2020, 6:43 PM

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whichever tank is better at magic dmg usually holds boss

coral marsh Jul 31, 2020, 6:43 PM

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can you give me an order who tanks boss and who tanks add and when to swap add

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 6:43 PM

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whichever tank is better at magic dmg usually holds boss

Who's better at pressing buttons*

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doesn't matter

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can you give me an order who tanks boss and who tanks add and when to swap add
@coral marsh
Never

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if you're an add tank

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you take first 2 stacks on the start of live phase

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and then go take adds

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and tank adds until next phase

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pepsihands

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that was a stupid question

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:d

coral marsh Jul 31, 2020, 6:45 PM

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so basically one tank boss one tank add

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 6:45 PM

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yes

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nothing new

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nothing more

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you just take first 2 stacks and then go take the add

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and then take second/third as they spawn

coral marsh Jul 31, 2020, 6:45 PM

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which stacks do you mean

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i always overgeared hc

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 6:45 PM

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there's only 1 type of stacks on maut

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🤦‍♂️

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read fucking dungeon journal instead of asking such a stupid question]

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https://www.tanknotes.com/

TankNotes

World of Warcraft guides specifically for tanks

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also i think this will help you out

coral marsh Jul 31, 2020, 6:46 PM

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i think i got it

onyx vessel Jul 31, 2020, 6:46 PM

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naeno

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 6:46 PM

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naeno

coral marsh Jul 31, 2020, 6:47 PM

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you take boss and first two adds, tankswap at 2 stacks and take third add

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 6:47 PM

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pepsihands

coral marsh Jul 31, 2020, 6:47 PM

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at least this monk wants it like that

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 6:47 PM

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He will never understand

coral marsh Jul 31, 2020, 6:47 PM

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ye

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 6:47 PM

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KILL YOUR MONK ALREADY
l

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like

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really

sweet summit Jul 31, 2020, 6:47 PM

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ok listen here

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 6:47 PM

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^

onyx vessel Jul 31, 2020, 6:47 PM

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pussay monk kekw

sweet summit Jul 31, 2020, 6:47 PM

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one tank starts on boss, takes two stacks from the boss

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then add spawns

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said tank takes adds

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 6:47 PM

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at least this monk wants it like that

Kick him out of the raid already

sweet summit Jul 31, 2020, 6:47 PM

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all the adds

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the other tank sits on boss

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there are no tank swaps

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 6:48 PM

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^

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and so forever

sweet summit Jul 31, 2020, 6:48 PM

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when close to full energy on boss

onyx vessel Jul 31, 2020, 6:48 PM

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how does a monk die on maut

sweet summit Jul 31, 2020, 6:48 PM

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pull adds into boss

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phase into reflect phase

onyx vessel Jul 31, 2020, 6:48 PM

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ZOOMEReyes

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 6:48 PM

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it's a 3rd or 4th time someone tells this to him

sweet summit Jul 31, 2020, 6:48 PM

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and start over again

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 6:48 PM

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how does a monk die on maut
@onyx vessel

How can any tank die on anything in nya since day 1 of the raid

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ZOOMEReyes

sweet summit Jul 31, 2020, 6:48 PM

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that is the most common strat nowadays

coral marsh Jul 31, 2020, 6:48 PM

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oki

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thanks

onyx vessel Jul 31, 2020, 6:49 PM

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ok angry weeb calm down

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no1 cares about your feelings

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weird

coral marsh Jul 31, 2020, 6:49 PM

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i mean if the monk wants to do all the work

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 6:49 PM

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weird

coral marsh Jul 31, 2020, 6:49 PM

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im not complaining

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 6:49 PM

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i mean if the monk wants to do all the work

Then the raid will wipe

onyx vessel Jul 31, 2020, 6:49 PM

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watch with your popcorn

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 6:49 PM

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it's a fight where you always split adds and boss

onyx vessel Jul 31, 2020, 6:49 PM

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🍿

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 6:50 PM

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watch with your popcorn and laugh at attempts to get over this retardation

sweet summit Jul 31, 2020, 6:50 PM

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😠

onyx vessel Jul 31, 2020, 6:50 PM

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casual guilds man

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 6:50 PM

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casual guilds man

This is not even "casual"

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this is just stupidity

onyx vessel Jul 31, 2020, 6:50 PM

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cant upset the snowflakes

sweet summit Jul 31, 2020, 6:50 PM

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🤦‍♀️

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 6:50 PM

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if this monks to wipe the raid on every fucking boss

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welcome to the shitfest :D

coral marsh Jul 31, 2020, 6:51 PM

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its not a guild its a pug

onyx vessel Jul 31, 2020, 6:51 PM

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welcome to mythic raiding with pugs

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well that answered it

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leave

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 6:51 PM

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yeah

onyx vessel Jul 31, 2020, 6:51 PM

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ez win

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 6:51 PM

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just leave and find a stable guild man

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it'll be better

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:)

onyx vessel Jul 31, 2020, 6:51 PM

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they arent getting past maut

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and nothing useful drops from him

coral marsh Jul 31, 2020, 6:51 PM

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so i died to shadowwounds

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 6:51 PM

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ZOOMEReyes

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how

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can you drop a log here?

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maybe we'll help

onyx vessel Jul 31, 2020, 6:52 PM

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how many stacks

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id bet alot

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 6:52 PM

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i'd bet 8-9

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minimum

onyx vessel Jul 31, 2020, 6:53 PM

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id prob die on 8

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ZOOMEReyes \

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 6:54 PM

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ZOOMEReyes

onyx vessel Jul 31, 2020, 6:54 PM

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never tanked mythic nya

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i just blast as fury

sweet summit Jul 31, 2020, 6:54 PM

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where do you see amount of stacks on logs

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 6:54 PM

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you usually don't take more than 5-6 if DPS don't slack

onyx vessel Jul 31, 2020, 6:54 PM

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my guild likes to phase boss 2 times

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 6:55 PM

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where do you see amount of stacks on logs
@sweet summit
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/jzL7YXFkPpKdWt1a#fight=15&type=auras&source=11&spells=debuffs&ability=307019

onyx vessel Jul 31, 2020, 6:55 PM

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tuesday kill boss was at 23%

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 6:55 PM

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like here

onyx vessel Jul 31, 2020, 6:55 PM

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oof

sweet summit Jul 31, 2020, 6:56 PM

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oh i only had 6 stacks when i tanked it

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 6:56 PM

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i'm mostly an add tank

onyx vessel Jul 31, 2020, 6:56 PM

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so he died cuz dps are slackers

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sounds about right for pugs

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 6:56 PM

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or cause someone didn't press their buttons enough

sweet summit Jul 31, 2020, 6:56 PM

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isnt that timerbased tho

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 6:56 PM

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if we assume that he wrote that he died 1 minute after the last message

onyx vessel Jul 31, 2020, 6:59 PM

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hmmmmm

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karton bullying ppl again

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pepsihands

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 7:00 PM

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pepsihands

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hmmmmm

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frustration on top of frustration, on top of frustration

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and now this

onyx vessel Jul 31, 2020, 7:00 PM

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❤️

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 7:01 PM

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well

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unless he drops logs in there

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we won't know for sure

onyx vessel Jul 31, 2020, 7:02 PM

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i doubt he will

coral marsh Jul 31, 2020, 7:03 PM

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i dont know why i died

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 7:03 PM

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just drop logs here

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like

coral marsh Jul 31, 2020, 7:03 PM

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can it be the oneshot where you have to run into orb

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 7:03 PM

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seriously

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no one's gonna hurt you

sweet summit Jul 31, 2020, 7:03 PM

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its defo timerbased

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 7:03 PM

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can it be the oneshot where you have to run into orb

Orb barely deals damage to the tank

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also could have been healers slacking on dispels

sweet summit Jul 31, 2020, 7:03 PM

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the debuff probably, yeah

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 7:03 PM

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or you not tracking curse and not running into the puddle when you need to dispel it and healers slack

sweet summit Jul 31, 2020, 7:04 PM

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just dip into a pool

coral marsh Jul 31, 2020, 7:04 PM

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it was probably that

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is it possible to export a log from details?

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 7:05 PM

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no

coral marsh Jul 31, 2020, 7:05 PM

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ye i didnt log

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just pug for fun

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 7:05 PM

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turn on advanced log in interface and then drop it here

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pugging
for fun

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are you a masochist?

coral marsh Jul 31, 2020, 7:06 PM

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i hate playing on a schedule

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 7:06 PM

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ZOOMEReyes

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scheduling of stuff helps out a lot tho

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since you don't need to worry about shit going wild if you planned it ahead

coral marsh Jul 31, 2020, 7:07 PM

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ik its op

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but annoying

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i play a lot of league there you can just queue up and play till the highest skill level without any scheduling

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miss that in wow

onyx vessel Jul 31, 2020, 7:08 PM

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🍿

coral marsh Jul 31, 2020, 7:12 PM

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thanks for the help guys btw

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appreciate it

onyx vessel Jul 31, 2020, 7:12 PM

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👍

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 7:12 PM

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good luck with that

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maybe you'll even kill that boss with pugs

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:D

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👍

sick sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 7:14 PM

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if i get bored again imma open up photoshop

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make mald mmeems

onyx vessel Jul 31, 2020, 7:52 PM

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👀

distant crystal Jul 31, 2020, 8:25 PM

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it's been over an hour

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where are the memes

woeful estuary Jul 31, 2020, 8:25 PM

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How do I log my mythics?

ionic fern Jul 31, 2020, 8:26 PM

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https://www.wowhead.com/how-to-use-warcraft-logs-to-improve-character-performance

Wowhead

Warcraft Logs

How to use Warcraft Logs to evaluate your performance in raid settings in World of Warcraft, measuring of damage and healing dealt and taken, buff and debuff uptime, player and NPC positioning, and much more.

distant crystal Jul 31, 2020, 8:26 PM

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get warcraft logs uploader app

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and get an addon to turn logging on/off automatically for ya

woeful estuary Jul 31, 2020, 8:26 PM

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Okay

distant crystal Jul 31, 2020, 8:26 PM

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loggerhead, autocombatlogger, etc

sick sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 9:00 PM

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not bored enough yet

raven knoll Jul 31, 2020, 9:14 PM

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guys for legs am i missing something or arent there some from M+ with High versa low haste? i wanna farm some and slap versa on

lofty widget Jul 31, 2020, 9:20 PM

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i think the legs from atal is your best bet

fierce bobcat Jul 31, 2020, 9:24 PM

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the group wide nature dot from avatar of sethralis - is this classified as a poison that healers/hybrids can dispel?

warm plinth Jul 31, 2020, 9:30 PM

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The pulse? I don't believe it's dispellable at all

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Pulse dot can't be dispelled

primal sable Jul 31, 2020, 9:46 PM

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Do you guys kite brother ironbull on the second boss in shrine when he does his empower thing?

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 9:48 PM

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No

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All of his damage is physical

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And it shouldn't be a problem for you

warm plinth Jul 31, 2020, 9:50 PM

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He's fully blockable so yeah, easy peasy

raven knoll Jul 31, 2020, 9:54 PM

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ah i see the atal ones

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they have high haste but atleast they have both on it 😄

primal sable Jul 31, 2020, 9:54 PM

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Would other classes need to kite him?

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 9:55 PM

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No

primal sable Jul 31, 2020, 9:56 PM

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Aight, i can call this guy a pussy then

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 9:57 PM

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Which tank spec he plays?

primal sable Jul 31, 2020, 9:57 PM

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Its a prot pala

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 9:58 PM

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Lul

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One of the specs that can facetank a lot of stuff

woeful estuary Jul 31, 2020, 11:07 PM

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hey guys, never used elv ui before. it took away my action bars and I'm wondering how to get them back

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 11:09 PM

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@woeful estuary open ElvUI options, go to bars and enable them all

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Or only the ones you need

woeful estuary Jul 31, 2020, 11:16 PM

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Figured it out, had them on mouseover

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figured I'd try the elvui

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 11:19 PM

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I'm using mouseover option for 2 years by now

steep bone Jul 31, 2020, 11:19 PM

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Hey, Im confused of which weapon is bis, cara one? Or wrathion/vex? I mean ilvl > stats but for vers we want vers everywhere so it'd be wrathion then ye? But for non vers build cara because of highest ilvl in game

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 11:20 PM

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@woeful estuary depends also on the profile. Was it the default one?

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I have all my bars hidden personally

woeful estuary Jul 31, 2020, 11:21 PM

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No, I changed it and I still click some moves sadly and I like seeing my bar

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 11:21 PM

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Usual case for me

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novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 11:21 PM

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@steep bone Mythic Carapace is BiS

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Due to ilvl

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 11:22 PM

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Due to weapon DPS more so

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Which is technically ilvl

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peepoHappy

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 11:22 PM

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Yeah which is ilvl lol

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If it was 5ilvl it may be more of a tossup

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But 10ilvl is pretty big

steep bone Jul 31, 2020, 11:23 PM

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thanks, i just had convo with officers as he didn't know exactly what's my bis and i didn't know how do i explain it 😄

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 11:23 PM

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For 5 ilvl go with stats

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 11:23 PM

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My raid leader is my co-tank

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 11:23 PM

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For 10 or higher ilvl go with ilvl

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 11:23 PM

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And also a prot warr

woeful estuary Jul 31, 2020, 11:24 PM

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I see

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 11:24 PM

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That’s general rule for any character

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 11:25 PM

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For any tank*

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For DPS... Sim unless it's a weapon

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 11:25 PM

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And dps generally

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Of course you would sim it

steep bone Jul 31, 2020, 11:28 PM

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So, cara hands are also bis

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unless i wanna vers build

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 11:28 PM

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You could use cara hands

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I use haste/vers 475 hands

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And use the cara hands for my fury set

steep bone Jul 31, 2020, 11:30 PM

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my other hands are 475 crit mast or 465 haste vers so rip

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 11:30 PM

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Imo if running vers you want as many pieces with vers on it. The 10 ilvl on a wep is bigger than 10ilvl on a hand piece thus I give up the hands

steep bone Jul 31, 2020, 11:30 PM

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or 470 crit haste

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 11:30 PM

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Then I would run the cara ones until you get the haste/vers ones from raid

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Or by the plate BOE

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Buy*

steep bone Jul 31, 2020, 11:30 PM

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Oh

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no

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not doing content needing that much minmaxing

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 11:31 PM

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Ye

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 11:31 PM

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Yet*

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yep

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 11:32 PM

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Using Cata gloves you are missing out on 2% DR

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 11:32 PM

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I'm going to make full vers set soon for sure

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 11:32 PM

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And gaining crit for extra parry and extra stam/Str so it probably works out to be pretty even

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 11:33 PM

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Since i've got into contact with a group looking for a tank to push to 4-4.5k or so

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 11:33 PM

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Yeah it’s pretty brain dead

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 11:34 PM

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4k is all 23's iirc

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 11:34 PM

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4.2

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 11:34 PM

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Which doesn't require full vers

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So i guess I'll be able to go into +23-24 with what i have rn

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 11:35 PM

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Yeah I was doing 23s with like 30% vers which was overkill

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 11:35 PM

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I have 22% vers set with TD3, 2xVers3 and 2xIT1

royal rune Jul 31, 2020, 11:35 PM

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what's the best horde race for prot tanking

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 11:35 PM

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Doesn't matter

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 11:35 PM

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Vulpera imo

steep bone Jul 31, 2020, 11:35 PM

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panda?

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 11:35 PM

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Belf

steep bone Jul 31, 2020, 11:35 PM

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if full vers

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im belf 24/7

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 11:36 PM

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Panda/vulpera/belf are top 3

royal rune Jul 31, 2020, 11:36 PM

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vulp's bag of tricks anyg ood?

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 11:36 PM

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Panda if only full vers though

royal rune Jul 31, 2020, 11:36 PM

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or is it their damage reduction

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 11:36 PM

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Everything about vulpera

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Damage reduction at the weakest point of a pull

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40 yd pull range ability which we don’t have

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And awesome visuals

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 11:38 PM

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awesome

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If you mean dank looking helmets and that it's smoll as awesome

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You definitely have some weird fetishes peepoHappy

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But really

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Unless you're pushing WF keys

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It doesn't matter

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 11:40 PM

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They also flip

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And animations are cool

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But yeah race doesn’t matter

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Play what you like

steep bone Jul 31, 2020, 11:40 PM

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if blizz only fixed how things look on small characters with furry heads i'd play vulpera probs

royal rune Jul 31, 2020, 11:41 PM

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is panda's quaking palm only for rogues

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beucase i'll take an extra stun

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thats OP

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 11:41 PM

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It is not op

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Just use stormbolt

split wyvern Jul 31, 2020, 11:41 PM

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^

steep bone Jul 31, 2020, 11:41 PM

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couldnt u use it to stop some cast

split wyvern Jul 31, 2020, 11:42 PM

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As far as a race pick one you like that looks good. Min maxing races only matter if you’re pushing bleeding edge content

mellow patio Jul 31, 2020, 11:43 PM

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If I come hear and see more people bad mouthing pandas I riot

steep bone Jul 31, 2020, 11:43 PM

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i remember guild forcing people to play void elves because it was easier to do orbs on ghuun

I mean telling them it'd be better if they consider race swapping

mellow patio Jul 31, 2020, 11:43 PM

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Panda is the superior race do not consider choosing differently

heavy whale Jul 31, 2020, 11:44 PM

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guys do u think i can tank a mythic nylotha with 472 prot?

mellow patio Jul 31, 2020, 11:44 PM

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Yes

steep bone Jul 31, 2020, 11:44 PM

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easily

mellow patio Jul 31, 2020, 11:44 PM

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Easily

heavy whale Jul 31, 2020, 11:44 PM

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oh shit niceeeeeeeee

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 11:44 PM

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People were tanking mythic at 460ilvl

mellow patio Jul 31, 2020, 11:44 PM

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Can tank it wayyyyy lower

steep bone Jul 31, 2020, 11:44 PM

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just careful, raden sux xD

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 11:44 PM

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Tanking is the least gear requirement role

heavy whale Jul 31, 2020, 11:45 PM

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is there a specific amount of vers/haste i need, i read the FAQ that said stats do not really mean much but still i want to know 😄

steep bone Jul 31, 2020, 11:45 PM

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for tanking raids just ilvl

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 11:45 PM

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For what content?

mellow patio Jul 31, 2020, 11:45 PM

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For raid just stack ilvl

heavy whale Jul 31, 2020, 11:45 PM

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what about M+

steep bone Jul 31, 2020, 11:45 PM

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for pushing high keys haste/vers and take in count that 18-20 aren't considered high

mellow patio Jul 31, 2020, 11:45 PM

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Ilvl

steep bone Jul 31, 2020, 11:45 PM

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for lower keys ilvl

mellow patio Jul 31, 2020, 11:45 PM

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Just get high ilvl haste vers 4head

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 11:46 PM

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Don’t worry about vers until 23

heavy whale Jul 31, 2020, 11:46 PM

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oh i see

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 11:46 PM

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If you are 3.5k io, then start worrying about vers stacking

heavy whale Jul 31, 2020, 11:46 PM

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im 2k io but im trying to push it

steep bone Jul 31, 2020, 11:47 PM

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you need ilvl at that rio

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 11:47 PM

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i remember guild forcing people to play void elves because it was easier to do orbs on ghuun

I mean telling them it'd be better if they consider race swapping
@steep bone

I mean, i did orbs as a mage with no velf racial

steep bone Jul 31, 2020, 11:47 PM

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and practice to be better at using abilities

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orbs as mage were a meme

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but orbs as void elf mage were giga meme XD

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 11:47 PM

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Yeah

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We had zero

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Cba paying money to race change for one boss

steep bone Jul 31, 2020, 11:47 PM

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ehh imagine having few secs more on padding adds while your velf racial travels to orb

heavy whale Jul 31, 2020, 11:48 PM

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mhmm i see i think im ok on pushing buttons or maybe im not i tanked a +18 JY but i felt like the healer was focusing me too much so thats why i was wondering if i should stack more vers

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 11:48 PM

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And also RIP the guild before even jilling Ghuun

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@heavy whale no

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pins

steep bone Jul 31, 2020, 11:48 PM

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@still pagoda any cutting edgers

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it was post nerf tho XD

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 11:49 PM

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I don't have any CEs yet 😢

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This tier tho...

steep bone Jul 31, 2020, 11:49 PM

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tbh nyalotha is free CE

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 11:49 PM

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Yeah. And i also wasn't on prog

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So it doesn't count

steep bone Jul 31, 2020, 11:49 PM

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kinda tru

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i mean i almost did full prog with my guild, they had like 30 pulls more than me or so

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 11:50 PM

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You did

heavy whale Jul 31, 2020, 11:50 PM

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so im 472, 43.73% haste and 4.66% versa aight then imma use my echos for triple Twilight dev III XD

steep bone Jul 31, 2020, 11:50 PM

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wait you've 43.73 haste unbuffed?

heavy whale Jul 31, 2020, 11:50 PM

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with into the fury

steep bone Jul 31, 2020, 11:50 PM

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Oh

heavy whale Jul 31, 2020, 11:50 PM

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fray

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 11:50 PM

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Really low then

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I have 61% with 5 stacks

steep bone Jul 31, 2020, 11:51 PM

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don't bully 5 stacks

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still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 11:51 PM

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Which is 38% unbuffed

heavy whale Jul 31, 2020, 11:51 PM

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oh dang

steep bone Jul 31, 2020, 11:51 PM

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im really considering downgrading my legs to 470 haste crit as mine are 475 crit mast (leech lmao)

heavy whale Jul 31, 2020, 11:51 PM

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whats ur guys's ilvl

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damn

steep bone Jul 31, 2020, 11:51 PM

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478 here

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 11:51 PM

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479

heavy whale Jul 31, 2020, 11:51 PM

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well god damnnnn

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 11:52 PM

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Mythic raiders 😁

heavy whale Jul 31, 2020, 11:52 PM

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i wish 😄

steep bone Jul 31, 2020, 11:52 PM

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i mean

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 11:52 PM

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You can get into raidung easily

steep bone Jul 31, 2020, 11:52 PM

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im literally full m+ geared

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heavy whale Jul 31, 2020, 11:52 PM

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i think imma pog the first mythic nylotha just to get some experience

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 11:52 PM

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Next tier a lot of guds will search for tanks

heavy whale Jul 31, 2020, 11:52 PM

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and then do it with a guild

steep bone Jul 31, 2020, 11:52 PM

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just swapped azerite (to same ilvl) and 10ilv higher shield but thats all

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 11:53 PM

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@heavy whale better do it with the guild right away

steep bone Jul 31, 2020, 11:53 PM

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if you've no exp apply to some 5-6/12 guilds

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 11:53 PM

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Pugging us a trap

cinder pasture Jul 31, 2020, 11:53 PM

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478 non-mythic raider. Mythic raiding is overrated 😛

heavy whale Jul 31, 2020, 11:53 PM

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XD

steep bone Jul 31, 2020, 11:53 PM

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imagine getting lucky with weekly 475 shield/weap

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cries in 465 shield for like 3 months

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 11:53 PM

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"imagine"

heavy whale Jul 31, 2020, 11:53 PM

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@steep bone I open my weeklies on fury in hopes of a 475 cut of death 😄

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 11:53 PM

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slaps TD3 on newly dropped 475 shield from weekly chest

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 11:53 PM

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Or a 475 ring would be nice with good stats

steep bone Jul 31, 2020, 11:54 PM

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im so tempted to get some vers pieces

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and go hybrid

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and get those 21-22s

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 11:54 PM

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Are you doing 22/23?

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 11:54 PM

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I do 21s with no vers

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 11:54 PM

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If not I wouldn’t worry about vers

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 11:54 PM

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Feels good

steep bone Jul 31, 2020, 11:54 PM

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because both my skills and my healer's aren't the best

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and i found struggling on some 20s

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 11:54 PM

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Send me a vod @steep bone

steep bone Jul 31, 2020, 11:54 PM

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i mean biggest struggle was 21-22 wm on forti

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 11:54 PM

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We can go through it

steep bone Jul 31, 2020, 11:54 PM

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i don't record things yet

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 11:55 PM

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Record a run

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Send it to me

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We coach for hour or two

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You profit

steep bone Jul 31, 2020, 11:55 PM

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waaait

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where's catch

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 11:55 PM

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I close discord as happy person who felt like he accomplished something in the world

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 11:55 PM

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yep

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 11:55 PM

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What catch?

steep bone Jul 31, 2020, 11:56 PM

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but tbh

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 11:56 PM

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I'm a mediocre tank... Who timed +22FH with zero vers and was comfortable doing so

steep bone Jul 31, 2020, 11:56 PM

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gonna record 20tos

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but fh is a meme

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 11:56 PM

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Maybe it was MW monk output...

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 11:56 PM

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@steep bone I accept tips but don’t require any nor charge. I just like coaching lol

steep bone Jul 31, 2020, 11:57 PM

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@novel ruin main thing is that both me and my healer aren't that good in higher keys and when we tried 22wm well

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i flipped hard

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XD

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but i think i overpulled too

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 11:57 PM

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Aight, we've just found a writer for wowhead guide

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 11:57 PM

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I can point stuff about you and your healer lol

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 11:57 PM

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😁

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 11:57 PM

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I’m currently working on m+ Prot warrior guide 😮

steep bone Jul 31, 2020, 11:58 PM

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would be pog

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\o/

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but anyway, if im gonna get to stage of doing keys that gonna need a bit of vers i'd like to have some pieces ready especially that ive few amps sitting in bags

novel ruin Jul 31, 2020, 11:59 PM

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Makes sense

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If you plan on doing high keys, work towards it

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So when you are at that point you just switch out

steep bone Jul 31, 2020, 11:59 PM

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well i want atleast 4k by end of this xpac

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 11:59 PM

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Just ramp up vers slowly as you go higher

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Starting from +22/23

steep bone Jul 31, 2020, 11:59 PM

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because 2.8k is not giving me joy

still pagoda Jul 31, 2020, 11:59 PM

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3k is a pug trap

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A huge one

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 12:00 AM

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ye

novel ruin Aug 1, 2020, 12:00 AM

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my goal is 5k

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 12:00 AM

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ppl too bad to push but too elitist to accept fact that they also make mistakes and it all goes to SHIT TANK NO VERS

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 12:00 AM

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Current goal is 4k. Next maybe 4.5-5k

heavy whale Aug 1, 2020, 12:01 AM

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well ty guys so much u were really helpful ❤️

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 12:01 AM

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@novel ruin mind if i send u /simc string so you could see what's worth to keep?

novel ruin Aug 1, 2020, 12:01 AM

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Good luck

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Sure

heavy whale Aug 1, 2020, 12:02 AM

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xan can u give me a pointer too? 😄 can i show u my gear and tell me what item i should grind 😄

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 12:06 AM

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another reason why i want to get vers set besides pushing keys later is that pvp arms is literally using haste&vers gear yep

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 12:06 AM

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Yeah

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This too

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 12:07 AM

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arms pvp is chill tho

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 12:07 AM

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Mancleave sounds intensify

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 12:07 AM

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unless there's arcane mage

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giving u hell

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but sharpen blade and dampening is giga peepoHappy

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 12:08 AM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/4ajg8b/its_called_whatcleave_a_brief_history_of_3v3_comp/?utm_source=xpromo&utm_medium=amp&utm_name=amp_comment_iterations&utm_term=active&utm_content=post_body @steep bone

r/wow - "It's called whatcleave?" - A Brief History of 3v3 Comp Nam...

602 votes and 151 comments so far on Reddit

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peepoHappy

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 12:09 AM

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thundercleave tho

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 12:09 AM

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It's such a rare comp tho

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Not many ele players in pvp

novel ruin Aug 1, 2020, 12:12 AM

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Arms PvP only uses vers gear at highest level

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A guildie is 2.6 and has been half vers half gushing

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If he wanted to push 3k he would go full vers

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@heavy whale sure, send me a message

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 12:22 AM

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Full vers in pvp is meme, nothing does dmg to u

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 12:27 AM

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@steep bone have you ever seen Russian ape cleaves from Cata days?

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 12:29 AM

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nah

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but everytime i see cyrylic party i know im gonna be fucked

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they're either lfr raider level or god level

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;_;

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 12:29 AM

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It's DK-Ret-Hpala

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peepoHappy

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 12:30 AM

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i didnt pvp much in cata

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 12:30 AM

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Sometimes Warr-Ret-Hpala

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 12:30 AM

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;_;

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i mean i did rdru/spriest

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with me as druid

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 12:30 AM

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I didn't play back then

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 12:30 AM

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xD

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mana burning healers 4life dude

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 12:30 AM

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But some vids of this meme cleave still exist

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But yeah. You see a Russian team in 3s, you run

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Since they're gonna fuck you no matter the comp

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And if they're playing Turbo/Herocleave/KFC, intensity of fuckery is multiplied by 10

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 12:33 AM

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i member doing some bgs with russians

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literally random bg most of them sit on ingame voice

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im like wtf

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i don't think we lost one that night

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 12:33 AM

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Ah

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Yes

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Peculiarities of National BG Spam

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😁

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 12:34 AM

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imagine being one non russian in full russian bg

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with ur friend calling stuffs for u in english

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 12:35 AM

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yep

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 12:36 AM

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btw on cara

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if im correct best way of reflecting is first, third, and fifth?

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i mean every 2nd one

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or two in a row if it procs

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 12:36 AM

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Second phase insanity bomb spell queue yep

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 12:36 AM

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and if i reflect two in a row i drop stacks aye?

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 12:36 AM

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I do 2nd and 4th

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 12:37 AM

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cuz i wanna be cara tank on tentacles phase

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atm we've bdk

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 12:37 AM

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Still yet to practice it to perfection

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 12:37 AM

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but hes getting destroyed

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i made wa to scream at me when hes casting

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so i just press reflect xD

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 12:37 AM

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I look at timers all the time

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But then forget to stun adds and lose SR buff

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 12:38 AM

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gotta reflect at very end of his cast

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but i fail it sometimes

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or gcd lock myself

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 12:38 AM

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SR is not on gcd

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 12:38 AM

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wait

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 12:38 AM

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yep

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 12:38 AM

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i think my weak aura

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is wrong then

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oh ye i added gcd swing to every ability

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XDDDDDDDD

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 12:39 AM

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Just remove show global cooldown

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 12:39 AM

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xD in the chat bois

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 12:39 AM

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Also

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Any ways to remove GCD numeric timer from your WAs?

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Was looking for a long time by now

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 12:40 AM

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it's a bug or something because blizz automatically hides cooldown timer if its <=2s

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you could add triggers to hide text [1] or [2] (depends which one is cooldown text) when duration is less than 2s for example

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it'll work for gcd then

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 12:41 AM

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Yeah

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Less than 1.5s tho

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 12:42 AM

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aye

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ye it works

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need list of what's not on gcd

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or its just reflect block ignore pain

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 12:44 AM

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Reflect, block, IP, all major defensive CDs

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And utility

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Except for rallying cry

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 12:44 AM

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so last stand shield wall

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shockwave charge

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 12:45 AM

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Shockwave is on gcd

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But it is in auxiliary wa anyway

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 12:45 AM

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im stupid

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 12:45 AM

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Which only shows cds

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 12:45 AM

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i can just attack

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and look at action bar

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XD

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 12:45 AM

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XD

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 12:45 AM

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i disabled action bars tw

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btw

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couldnt get rid of that habit of looking there

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 12:46 AM

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I did so 3 years ago

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 12:46 AM

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only toon i never looked at it was my mage and warlock xD

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 12:46 AM

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Also got a lot of space for healer frames

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😁

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 12:46 AM

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on everything else my eyes always go there for whatever reason

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@still pagoda Either swap %p with %c and put

function(_, duration, progress)
    return duration > 1.5 and progress or ""
end

with update custom text on Every Frame or in conditions make that text [1] is not visible when duration is <= 1.5

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first option will show you decimals tho

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 12:59 AM

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Hmm

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 12:59 AM

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or wait for me to fix it ;D

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 1:00 AM

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I'm not home tomorrow and a good chunk of Sunday anyway

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 1:00 AM

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Yeah ill update wa on wago so if you've companion then it's easy update for you

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 1:01 AM

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Sure

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Will also start making tankadin WIP into a fully working set this Sunday

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Already on a basis of your improvements

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 1:03 AM

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😄

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this channel gonna change to protection AND weak auras peepoHappy

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 1:04 AM

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😁

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 1:04 AM

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that template is giga tho

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ill fix my wlock auras so gonna have one for classes with charges

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i've had one for fire mage but its a bit outdated

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 1:05 AM

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The one for tankadin is the ultimate charge-charge-charge

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 1:05 AM

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https://www.twitch.tv/videos/479448360 looked like this

Twitch

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still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 1:07 AM

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Heh

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Looked good tho

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More utility-based

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Also

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Your Fire Blast charge WA

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 1:07 AM

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well fire mage doesnt have

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 1:07 AM

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I know where it can go

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 1:07 AM

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any buttons

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 1:07 AM

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I know

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 1:07 AM

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it was changing

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based on charged up talent

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sec

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 1:08 AM

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Since i know where i can use it rn

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 1:08 AM

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it's scuffed tho

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as its made of few auras

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 1:08 AM

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Drop it into my DMs please. Going to sleep what's left

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 1:08 AM

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sadly i dunno coding

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 1:08 AM

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That will work. Will see what i can do with it and SotR charges this Sunday

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 1:09 AM

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waaait a minute

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i need to log on wago

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xD

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when i restored auras mage is scuffed

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still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 1:09 AM

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Gonna get rid of duration slider and put charges akin to yours and Afenar's fire blast

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 1:09 AM

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ive them on wago tho

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 1:09 AM

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Kek

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 1:09 AM

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theres one thing about charges with one weak aura

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 1:09 AM

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Are they made of one big piece?

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 1:10 AM

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hard to make width so that both borders are shown, its either left or right invisible

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 1:10 AM

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Or 3 separate auras?

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 1:10 AM

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3 separate ones

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i couldnt make one to work

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because of issue mentioned above

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 1:10 AM

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Ah

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 1:11 AM

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https://wago.io/wVsFvHS0z

Fire Mage

Make sure to get all 4 weak auras to get exact look Shared Media and AvantGarde, BorisBlackBoxx fonts are requied! https

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charges gonna be in 1/4

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 1:11 AM

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Thanks

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Gonna fix and see how it will work with SotR

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 1:12 AM

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sure thing

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 1:12 AM

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Maybe add CD timer on top of it

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 1:12 AM

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cd timer is inside aura

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you can swap positions

old flare Aug 1, 2020, 2:42 AM

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Arms warrior main here, looking to actually run a key at some point this expansion so I’m curving in and swapping to tank for the majority of the final weeks/months of M+. I’m currently around 2.5k io and I’ve been pushing keys in the 17-19 range but I feel like my skill could push me higher up the io ladder if I can actually get in a damn key lol... That being said I have some questions regarding corruption:

In addition to having essentially BiS arms gear (outside of mythic nzoth helm and weapon) with all slots having 470+ gear with expedient 3. Also have a few extra high ilvl pieces with expedient R2 that I used to help meet corruption requirements.

I’ve also got several solid pieces with TD; 475 R1 gloves, 470 R2 waist, 470 R3 legs as well as a couple with surging vitality, and 475 wrists with R1 IT.

My questions are:

is expedient good enough to be worth stacking all by itself in my key range?
I read TD is the best overall choice until early 20’s-ish keys, is TD something I should look to stack as much as possible? Just one? A R1 and a R3?
The two versatile pieces I have are near perfect itemization for versatile stacking, however I feel that’s unnecessary until later on in my key-pushing-endeavor, but I was thinking maybe it wouldn’t hurt to have the extra survivability during particularly rough weeks/specific runs. Should I be looking to buy versatile corruption ASAP if that’s my goal?
...OR...
...should I be looking for a nice mix of all 3 Corruptions? Anyone in particular super strong for the fringe 20 key groups?

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Ewww formatting I’m so sorry, am on mobile

civic rover Aug 1, 2020, 2:43 AM

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i'll try to answer as best as i can but i'm definitely not the best prot here

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expedient is a good filler corruption and defensively the best choice in lower keys but you don't need defense in lower keys, i wouldn't stack it but it's probably fun having mad haste

novel ruin Aug 1, 2020, 2:43 AM

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okay

civic rover Aug 1, 2020, 2:44 AM

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2)TD is the best overall choice until you start getting bitch slapped even with proper play

novel ruin Aug 1, 2020, 2:44 AM

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Doing less than 24 keys? STACK ALL THE TD

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Doing ANY key as Prot Warrior: GET 2 RANK 1 Ineffeable Truth

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After that

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if you have any left over corruption budget, use Expedient

civic rover Aug 1, 2020, 2:45 AM

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playing prot without 2 IT rank 1: 😐

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playing prot with 2 IT rank 1 : 😩

onyx vessel Aug 1, 2020, 3:03 AM

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peepostudy

undone sun Aug 1, 2020, 3:04 AM

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wadner

onyx vessel Aug 1, 2020, 3:04 AM

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Shit i just use vers and it

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Still top dps sometimes overall

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ZOOMEReyes

civic rover Aug 1, 2020, 3:06 AM

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i sometimes use a mixed build

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not sure how i feel about it though

sick sentinel Aug 1, 2020, 3:06 AM

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wait, so 2 it 1 is bad now?

civic rover Aug 1, 2020, 3:07 AM

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no

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its god tier

sick sentinel Aug 1, 2020, 3:07 AM

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oh okay

onyx vessel Aug 1, 2020, 3:09 AM

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10second spell reflect cd

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deswind

sick sentinel Aug 1, 2020, 3:09 AM

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yep

onyx vessel Aug 1, 2020, 3:09 AM

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Then it isnt up

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Still dont care cuz its just so cheap corruption wise

novel ruin Aug 1, 2020, 3:10 AM

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Doing less than 24 keys? STACK ALL THE TD
Doing ANY key as Prot Warrior: GET 2 RANK 1 Ineffeable Truth
After that
if you have any left over corruption budget, use Expedient

@sick sentinel

woven trellis Aug 1, 2020, 3:22 AM

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callous reprisal or 2nd TC?

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i mean DC

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 3:24 AM

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you don't need more than 1 DC

woven trellis Aug 1, 2020, 3:24 AM

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yeah but u dont rly need callous reprisal right

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both feel shitty

distant crystal Aug 1, 2020, 3:26 AM

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DC for moar dam

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 3:26 AM

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maybe your first piece with DC has better choice

royal rune Aug 1, 2020, 3:36 AM

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I third the 2 IT 1

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Changes your life because of shield block uptime mainly

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I dont know of anyone agrees but junkyard bondos yard trash on fort hurts with no vers on 21key. Or maybe I had no SB up then

civic rover Aug 1, 2020, 3:40 AM

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is it worth mixing TD and vers in like 22s

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or is it just a bad idea

distant crystal Aug 1, 2020, 3:40 AM

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nah it's fine

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pretty common thing ppl do as they build up vers gear

civic rover Aug 1, 2020, 3:41 AM

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i ran a couple 22s last night with 2 IT, TD2, and as much vers as i could fit while being sub 40

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vers kinda ridiculous lmao

distant crystal Aug 1, 2020, 3:41 AM

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go sub 60 bb

novel ruin Aug 1, 2020, 3:41 AM

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YES

distant crystal Aug 1, 2020, 3:41 AM

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it's ez

novel ruin Aug 1, 2020, 3:41 AM

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you can go hybrid around the 22 range

civic rover Aug 1, 2020, 3:42 AM

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literally felt like a 15 lmao

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idk i kinda noticed on some trash packs without it i wasn't dying but i was getting chunked so i thought i'd try it

royal rune Aug 1, 2020, 3:43 AM

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I play hybrid at 22

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Say for KR or WS I'll go full vers even ag 21

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Tho

kind spindle Aug 1, 2020, 3:47 AM

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Is a rank 3 surging vitality decent for a hybrid build? I was thinking of trying IT x2 , TD2, SV3, and fill the rest with verse amps.

civic rover Aug 1, 2020, 3:48 AM

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if you don't have a lot of vers on your gear it might be good

woven trellis Aug 1, 2020, 3:53 AM

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first piece with DC has bloodsport, and other piece has Callous reprisal

novel ruin Aug 1, 2020, 3:54 AM

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Surging vitality gets bette rthe more vers you have

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at full vers it is better but by a very very very small amount that its not worth running due to corruption and uptime

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full vers is better for more smoothness

kind spindle Aug 1, 2020, 3:57 AM

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It's a full haste/vers set. I just didn't know if the SV3 was worth keeping or putting an amp over it. I don't plan on doing any crazy high keys. Just gives me something to work towards and meme in since my TD set is done.

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@novel ruin gotcha thanks for the explanation

woven trellis Aug 1, 2020, 4:15 AM

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is there a Versatile corru more efficient

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about the ratio between Versatile boost and corruption cost

distant crystal Aug 1, 2020, 4:22 AM

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no all the amps are identical corruption:amp

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but you usually want to get r3's because you'll run out of slots

onyx vessel Aug 1, 2020, 4:24 AM

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At 7 vers3s and 2 ineffs at 135 corruption resist 29 corruption

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And thing barely does any dmg to you in vers set

royal rune Aug 1, 2020, 4:43 AM

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I just switched to panda! Extra vers and and an interrupt!

novel ruin Aug 1, 2020, 4:43 AM

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EXCITING!

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 4:44 AM

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weird

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Debuff stack and magic portion of the attack

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It is split between mandible slam and black scar

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It means you don't get the stack

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Which is much more important

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But yes

buoyant walrus Aug 1, 2020, 4:47 AM

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Any tip for pulling trash packs out of third boss room in Siege during explosive week?

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 4:49 AM

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@sick sentinel not really. He won't have reflect for every single mandible slam

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So taunt off after 4th slam

onyx vessel Aug 1, 2020, 4:49 AM

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Pull slow siege is shit this week

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 4:50 AM

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Which will be either application of 2nd stack or reflect with 2 stavks already

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I know that, but last night I had to keep asking when to taunt, I'll just track his cd now
@sick sentinel i track tank stacks

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Just get any WA that does that for you

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He either does 1st and 3rd or 2nd and 4th

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So just track his stacks and mandible slam timer

buoyant walrus Aug 1, 2020, 4:57 AM

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@onyx vessel but when I’m kitting them out of that boss room they spawn the explosive orbs far back

novel ruin Aug 1, 2020, 5:01 AM

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@buoyant walrus This is alright week for Siege. Bolster Spotter big then pull 1 pack at a time in Monkey town

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Be careful with giant demos cuz they are not affected by spotter damage

outer prairie Aug 1, 2020, 5:04 AM

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@buoyant walrus You can line of sight the explosives. Just gotta pull those mobs around that corner.

buoyant walrus Aug 1, 2020, 5:43 AM

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@outer prairie ohhhh ok I cant believe I never knew you could los their damage

sharp rover Aug 1, 2020, 5:47 AM

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Is 470 LPS the best defensive trinket outside of 485 LPS?

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e.g. is it better than 475 sigil?

warm plinth Aug 1, 2020, 5:51 AM

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Yes

novel ruin Aug 1, 2020, 6:00 AM

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@sharp rover It is only good if you are using it every 60-90 seconds. If you hold it, you would get more value out of other trinkets in M+

onyx vessel Aug 1, 2020, 6:16 AM

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I use that trinket on cd

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👍

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Then it gets about 30% shield loss before it runs out

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pepsihands

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May not help that i run shell in low keys with full vers

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🤔

main shoal Aug 1, 2020, 6:26 AM

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Sorry for dumb question do you backpedal with s? or do you have any other keybind

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I was using S for interrupt and backpedal on mousewheel click but its starting to get unconfortable so i wanted to ask what do you use

civic rover Aug 1, 2020, 6:30 AM

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i use s

novel ruin Aug 1, 2020, 6:37 AM

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i use s but its whatever it comfortable for you

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 6:57 AM

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@main shoal if you're using keybinds only on keyboard you can swap movement keybinds to E S D F or RDFG, that way you'll get many new keybinds that are easily reachable with your fingers, takes time to get used to tho.

And answering your question, im just using WSAD

civic rover Aug 1, 2020, 7:22 AM

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i mean i also have a 12 button mouse

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 7:28 AM

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same, i still have some keybinds on keyboard

daring bay Aug 1, 2020, 7:41 AM

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Anyone know how to change the look on plater? like how the actual bars look?

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 7:43 AM

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ye, type /plater and change to whatever you want

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textures positions and such, but best help you'd get there https://discord.gg/AGSzAZX

sharp palm Aug 1, 2020, 7:50 AM

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@steep bone Morning. How is it going with the UI?

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 7:54 AM

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still testing

opal gorge Aug 1, 2020, 8:18 AM

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so if i have a 455 normal shield but a 415 shield with rank 3 TD...which one do i take?

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or it that to much of a ilvl drop?

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@sweet summit

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 8:21 AM

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you never drop ilvl on shield, use highest ilvl

opal gorge Aug 1, 2020, 8:21 AM

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okay god to know

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 8:35 AM

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5 crafted legs and still nowhere near haste/vers

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yep

onyx vessel Aug 1, 2020, 8:46 AM

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Oof

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Im gonna scrap my 240 crit haste legs for my fury set to gain 2dps increase

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Worth

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Cuz then i can go alch and make the stone for prot

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deswind

ionic fern Aug 1, 2020, 8:52 AM

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wadner

undone sun Aug 1, 2020, 8:53 AM

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vel

onyx vessel Aug 1, 2020, 8:55 AM

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Hydrate

faint barn Aug 1, 2020, 8:55 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/738493746299273257.gif?v=1

onyx vessel Aug 1, 2020, 8:56 AM

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Mwahi what game you playing

ionic fern Aug 1, 2020, 8:57 AM

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It's a really cool one called "Find the best motorcycle jacket".

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But in general i'm replaying Bioshock's currently.

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Halfway through first one.

onyx vessel Aug 1, 2020, 8:59 AM

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Good choice

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 8:59 AM

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vel

onyx vessel Aug 1, 2020, 8:59 AM

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Question is save the children or not

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🤔

ionic fern Aug 1, 2020, 8:59 AM

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I'm a good boye so yes.

onyx vessel Aug 1, 2020, 9:00 AM

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Same

south storm Aug 1, 2020, 9:12 AM

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Yo is it me or does every1 blame tanks for no reason

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Lols

ionic fern Aug 1, 2020, 9:12 AM

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It's not you.

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We're the punching bags .

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For enemies and friendlies.

south storm Aug 1, 2020, 9:13 AM

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I got people aggroing mobs then I get blamed for pulling to much on the daily it seems

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Daily lol

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Love it

ionic fern Aug 1, 2020, 9:15 AM

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Jeah, that happens a loit.

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Everything's the tanks fault.

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Just ignore the chat.

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😂

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But in general things get easier once you get to higher keys.

sharp palm Aug 1, 2020, 9:33 AM

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which is the best Shield from M+?

sweet summit Aug 1, 2020, 9:34 AM

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the highest ilvl one :p
ML shield has the best stats in haste>crit
if you want a haste/vers shield the raid is your only option

icy harness Aug 1, 2020, 10:15 AM

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N OMEGALUL

sweet summit Aug 1, 2020, 10:15 AM

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Sadge

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 10:29 AM

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6 legs crafted, no haste vers yep

oblique garnet Aug 1, 2020, 10:37 AM

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@ionic fern beta when 🙂

ionic fern Aug 1, 2020, 10:41 AM

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@oblique garnet why do you do me like this?:(

oblique garnet Aug 1, 2020, 10:41 AM

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: )because im sad and i cant level my real warrior because theres a bugged quest

onyx vessel Aug 1, 2020, 10:41 AM

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pepsihands

ionic fern Aug 1, 2020, 10:41 AM

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:(

onyx vessel Aug 1, 2020, 10:43 AM

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accept the blame

oblique garnet Aug 1, 2020, 10:43 AM

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No i log in every hour and report the bug in hopes they fix it

still pagoda Aug 1, 2020, 10:48 AM

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accept the blame
@onyx vessel

Don't. Blame dps 🥑's

gilded zodiac Aug 1, 2020, 10:55 AM

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is 48% haste to much inc into the fray 5 stacks?

sweet summit Aug 1, 2020, 10:55 AM

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no

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 10:56 AM

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there's no too much haste

gilded zodiac Aug 1, 2020, 10:56 AM

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ty 🙂

marble cipher Aug 1, 2020, 11:44 AM

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I'm not at the high key level where vers stacking is required, but, in those highest of highest keys, is it 6 vers amps and 2 ITr1 that I'd want?

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7 amps even

sweet summit Aug 1, 2020, 11:45 AM

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2x IT1 and the rest vers3

marble cipher Aug 1, 2020, 11:45 AM

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K

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And all haste vers gear with haste sockets?

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Ideally?

sweet summit Aug 1, 2020, 11:45 AM

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haste vers gear enchant/gem for vers

marble cipher Aug 1, 2020, 11:45 AM

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Ah, vers gems, k

raven knoll Aug 1, 2020, 12:06 PM

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how good is leech rlly? like should i try to get leech gear for all my versa haste gaer to put amps on? or is it just nice to have

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 12:07 PM

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it's nice to have but you dont sacriface stats/ilvl for it

sweet summit Aug 1, 2020, 12:34 PM

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If you have the time/dedication to farm leech on haste vers gear go for it

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 12:34 PM

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if he's not doing content needing it then it's waste of time in my opinion

sweet summit Aug 1, 2020, 12:35 PM

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🤷

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Nothing else to do rn is there

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Affixes are poop to push

ionic fern Aug 1, 2020, 12:55 PM

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True.

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Just doing that weekly. 😦

strong forum Aug 1, 2020, 12:57 PM

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Weekly no leaver +12

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Bring full vers Pepexecute

onyx vessel Aug 1, 2020, 1:01 PM

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Ive brough full vers in 8s

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Then died to bursting nercotic

raven knoll Aug 1, 2020, 1:01 PM

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anyone knowing what lvl i need on alchemy to get the flask duration doubles? or do i need an item for that?

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and thanks btw for answer above ❤️

sweet summit Aug 1, 2020, 1:02 PM

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you need to be able to craft the flasks i think

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or is it rank 2 of the flasks

onyx vessel Aug 1, 2020, 1:03 PM

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Id bet r2

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Like 60% of my raid team is a alch

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Nerf alch

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And i still buy my own flasks

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🤔

marble cipher Aug 1, 2020, 1:14 PM

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Missing a fair amount of sockets (6), but I can get up to 40% vers while keeping my haste at 52% (incl into the fray).
That's with 7 vers amps and one ITr1.
I guess that's a good starting point for when I start needing that gear?

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All my sockets went into my TD5/ITr1x2 set for now, crit haste gear.

ionic fern Aug 1, 2020, 1:17 PM

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Jeah, it's solid once you actually start needing it.

raven knoll Aug 1, 2020, 1:22 PM

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thanks yes i think r2 its working

grave lily Aug 1, 2020, 1:32 PM

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which dungeons do you guys like farming for echoes this week?

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everything feels like a chore with explosive

fathom nymph Aug 1, 2020, 1:39 PM

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Guys, how come I saw a prot warrior reflect over 1m damage into a single spell reflect in Waycrest Manor's first boss, and I only reflect around 500k? 😐

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He was on a 26, I was on a 21

sweet summit Aug 1, 2020, 1:41 PM

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way higher key level
tyrann fort maybe too?

steep bone Aug 1, 2020, 1:41 PM

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The higher key is the more dmg you'll reflect since mobs do more dmg

strong forum Aug 1, 2020, 1:43 PM

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I mean all you gotta do is look at the multiplier

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It's well in the 1000s in high 20s

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A 15 is what, 185%

grave lily Aug 1, 2020, 1:47 PM

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does vers affect SR dmg? or nah

sweet summit Aug 1, 2020, 1:48 PM

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should not? 🤔

leaden dune Aug 1, 2020, 1:48 PM

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Do you all do vision s as prot it is there easier way

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Was just getting cloak rank 6 so neede done tainted zone and thrall

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And I didn’t get 1 td proc

grave lily Aug 1, 2020, 1:49 PM

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prot is the easy way

leaden dune Aug 1, 2020, 1:49 PM

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Even when nothing procs

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I feel I lack st damage to take out the stunners

main vault Aug 1, 2020, 1:50 PM

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I did Fury until I got some TD

strong forum Aug 1, 2020, 1:52 PM

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I mean. Only interrupt touch of abyss, or reflect it

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You build full ST if you go in as tank

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Cof major, cyclo blast trinket

grave lily Aug 1, 2020, 1:53 PM

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you can also skip that one pull that has 2 in valley of wisdom

leaden dune Aug 1, 2020, 1:59 PM

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I need to get cyclo blast first haha

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I got td3 but didn’t proc once