protection

[civic rover]

yeah its 100% worth having two sets

having a giga TD flex set and a tryhardmode vers set separately is good

[hardy siren]

yeah, I'll just see if I can build up some bits and some echoes for 3 weeks - wont have them for tomorrow

[still pagoda]

next TD2 is nowhere soon

so you'll be fine

[raven knoll]

its insane how ppl try to tell you how to tank. what corruptions to run. tell you the route and how to use your spells 😄 never had this as dd haha

[still pagoda]

welcome to the shitfest that is pugging

[ionic fern]

I tried helping a tank once in game but he thought i diddn't know how to play tanks so i gave up.

👍

"ok buddy,keep using ip over sb,you're doing great".

[craggy harness]

"They wouldn't give it to us if they didn't want us to use it!"

"Loser"

Pretty sure that's how it went from his end.

[kind spindle]

I can't wait to make a vers set so when pugs complain I can swap to it, then swap back to TD on pull timer

[craggy harness]

i have regrets not having a vers set, but that's because I started arms pvping

2 weeks is a long time to wait

https://tenor.com/view/loss-gif-8082067

I see you typing mwahi

😛

[warm plinth]

@ionic fern Friend role when

[muted wedge]

how many ilvls is a socket worth on shield slot?

[mellow patio]

0

You’ll always equip ilvl on shields

[steep bone]

^ and you can just socket on higher ilvl shield

[still pagoda]

block value is just too much

[grim hornet]

Does Thunderclap with C&S Rank 3 count as Loss of Control!?

*as a major essence

[undone sun]

@warm plinth is a friend to all

[still pagoda]

@grim hornet yes

root

itself

[grim hornet]

that is... insane?

[still pagoda]

nah

totally fine

it counts as hard CC

just as any root

[grim hornet]

1058 versa

just through the essence 😄 No wonder everyone slots it as major

[still pagoda]

not everyone

and not every week

beneficial for vers stacking

but lucid is just as good

[grim hornet]

i dont see the point in lucid tbh

[still pagoda]

not seeing point in controllable CDR and double avatar?

weirdo

[mellow patio]

You are essentially invincible for 40 sec in lucid

Well

Near invincible for duration of lucid and very stronk during avatar

[warm plinth]

Thank you for your endorsement @undone sun ❤️

[grim hornet]

so you just spam Ignore Pain to somehow get rid of all that Rage?

[mellow patio]

Yes

It is the IP spam fest

But you are generating so much rage that you get back to back avatars

Can get 3 if you get a good IT proc

[raven knoll]

when is next versa 3 btw?

in how many weeks

[still pagoda]

August 15th

[raven knoll]

thanks!

[warm plinth]

http://corruptionvendor.com @raven knoll

[raven knoll]

thats a clean site nice

[limpid pawn]

the chinese tanks doing 29-30's use this

what do you guys think

tested it out on full verse build, it adds about 12% DR

[rare loom]

just started geting gear what tyype of dung would you say 430 could do just base mythic?

[mellow patio]

Isn’t that the ilvl that base mythic drops?

Either way yes you can do them at that ilvl

[rare loom]

they are but wasnt sure if now people wont take that lvl

[limpid pawn]

wait a minute, that trinket seems like it's not as good a jes' howler

nvmind

it's like the same when jes' is used most optimally

[rare loom]

is it normal to feel like im taking damage even wiht my buff going?

[warm plinth]

What buff

[still pagoda]

what buff tho?

[rare loom]

ignore pain and shielkd block

[still pagoda]

depends on key levels

but it is really hard to fuck up before +20 IMO

as a tank of course

[rare loom]

or is it just we dont have any heals so it seams like im taking damage?

[main vault]

Well you do take damage

[sick sentinel]

but it is really hard to fuck up before +20 IMO
@still pagoda
anything is possible with pugs and ragnaros players

[civic rover]

if you invite ragnaros players thats your own fault tbh

[main vault]

I’ve had some really good Raggy and Azralon players

[sick sentinel]

yeah, true, it's also easy to just lose a dps to mechanics and it spirals

[civic rover]

well yeah there's actually a decent amount of good players on those servers, it's more just like, willingly inviting someone who might not understand english yk

[sick sentinel]

they refer to tanks as main tankers

[civic rover]

they refer to me as tanque

[still pagoda]

@sick sentinel Burning Legion and Свежеватель Душ are such for EU horde

[sick sentinel]

i been not doing things right also too

in TD runs i did 2, both times i went to use monelite key, keep forget that don't need to with obelisk

[still pagoda]

I am not a really good player either

But just pugs in +20-22 range...

Pure garbo

[sick sentinel]

so, we lost like 15 seconds when i went to open gates

mage (presuming) RQ DC

4 manned to barrel boss and we got rolled.

i just want to do +15TD and then get 2000io

[civic rover]

my last key for all 15s was freehold lol

[sick sentinel]

https://raider.io/characters/us/area-52/Tankian

this is me

[still pagoda]

Someone

Give him this TD already

Can't help since i'm EU

[sick sentinel]

i'll get it eventually

[still pagoda]

Second day of search for a group: ALMOST ZERO RESULT YET

Talked over with a group of 3.2k dps that are looking for tank and healer

Dunno how it will go

[sick sentinel]

i am persistant, so i will get it some time this month

[civic rover]

i love seeing groups in those M+ discords that are like "looking for 2k IO PROT WARRIOR"

ignoring the fact that every tank spec has timed a 28

[still pagoda]

Yeah

[raven knoll]

guys whats your exact essence setup for 5 masks? i guess flame major but what about the rest?

[warm plinth]

I don't change anything but crucible major, and even that's only when I remember to do so

[raven knoll]

okey thanks!

[novel ruin]

25 TD, our Hunter gets 1 shot from Explosive Burst rofl

time to zone out and get some avoidance

[cedar stump]

Any reason to not clense the Faralos corruption?

[novel ruin]

if you dont have td

[cedar stump]

cool, ill cleanse it then and throw an ineffable truth on it

[novel ruin]

110min in 25 TD

[misty shoal]

hey all, first night of nzoth prog. I notice the pyscus has some weird movement where he just like, side steps around me for no reason even if im standing still.

[vocal imp]

What level of m+ should I start to stack vers

[tepid thorn]

@vocal imp 22+

[vocal imp]

Ty

[undone sun]

It's roughly mid 20s, different for each player

There's no hard wall for when you swap @vocal imp

[pastel crown]

does anyone have any mythic hivemind logs without 2 dks tanking?

[sweet summit]

Ye

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/RpMQGVk6D3vh7Any#fight=70&type=summary

[pastel crown]

ty!

[steep bone]

@misty shoal he's doing that sometimes while he's casting

[misty shoal]

is that a new thing thats happening or has it always been like that?

I know there was some bugs with harvesters and skittra that happened during 8.3.7

[sweet summit]

Thats always been a thing afaik

[misty shoal]

is there anything I can do to help prevent it? Sometimes he casts and moves towards the outer area and in a real bad spot to put the purple

[sweet summit]

Does he go that far? Wtf

Never seen that

[misty shoal]

hes never made it so purple takes up the whole area, i can still get through the synapses at the back, but it gets tight

[steep bone]

he doesn't have to be close to synapse

he can be quite far from it and still get buff

[mental scarab]

Do vers amp the dmg on TD?

[sweet summit]

Yep

[brittle owl]

best way to increase td damage is more td

[sweet summit]

Also yep

[wispy locust]

TD7 is under 60 corruptions this week

pog

[buoyant walrus]

For some reason I had faith in my pug group to pull 1 Oblisk with last boss....I was terribly wrong

[amber siren]

which boss?

[buoyant walrus]

HK-8

[amber siren]

Oof, yeah you're braver than I am doing junkyard with pugs

[buoyant walrus]

They were running around like chickens with their heads cut off

I have no choice my entire guild is taking a break until SL so I’m stuck with the pug life haha

[warm plinth]

JY is too free without doing an obelisk with the last boss for me to risk that in a PUG

[mental scarab]

@sweet summit yea But im gonna Do some mix with TD and vers amp dont have all the echos

[sweet summit]

Epic

[mental scarab]

How much corruption can we go with vers build 👀

[sweet summit]

Same as with any other build, max 59

Or more if you want to die

[mental scarab]

Aight

[strong forum]

TD9 and go parsing

[wintry ermine]

whole raid night yesterday and I had 0 ineffable procs, anyone else had this problem?

I wasn't paying attention enough to try to troubleshoot mid raid, thought I was just unlucky with procs when I wanted it on spell reflect

[sweet summit]

Did you have ineffable equiped?🤔

[brittle owl]

corruptions suffer from the same bugs as azerite traits. sometimes they just don't work. re-equipping/relogging fixes that

[sick sentinel]

If ur running full versa build, what is an "ok" single target dps? Feels like im really low :/

[brittle owl]

if you're running full vers build you're a pillow monster

your damage is going to be poop

[sweet summit]

Do a sim and see 🤔

[brittle owl]

^

spoiler, it's gonna be poop

[sweet summit]

If you want damage you dont go versatile

[sick sentinel]

But i still wanna do my best for the groups. Not gonna be satisfied with running full versa and do 0 dmg either 😛 just wanna know if im in the "normal range" or if i can improve my gameplay further u know ^^

[brittle owl]

then sim

and see how close you are to your sim dps

[sweet summit]

Well you dont have my gear do you?

Just do a quick sim with the buffs you usually have and shit, then compare

If you feel like its lower than it should be, drop a log here

[sick sentinel]

Will do ty

[sweet summit]

My giga turtle build sims for 51k 5 minute patchwerk all buffs

[sick sentinel]

Yeah im simming 48.5k single target and i normally do around 35k'ish so i could actually do alot more. But hard to reach sims when they show so many shield slams and i feel like that amount would be impossible really 🤔

48.5k on mine @sweet summit

[brittle owl]

they're not impossible

[sweet summit]

Are you looking at "count"?

[brittle owl]

they are an indication of perfect play

also sims average out your procs

[sick sentinel]

Yes i am, is that wrong?

[sweet summit]

And 5 minute sims arent exactly 5 minutes

Idk that cound thing is fucked i feel

[brittle owl]

so you can sometimes find yourself on different sides of the normal distribution

sometimes you proc better, sometimes worse

[sick sentinel]

cause 5 min fight and 78 shield slams and 14 devestate

[brittle owl]

in the same timeframe

[sick sentinel]

Yeah ofc that's true

[brittle owl]

it's usually the case when you're doing considerably worse damage than your sims a few things happen

1. wasting cd's or improperly stacking them

2. too much devastate

3. wasting procs

4. bad priority when more than 1 ability is present

[sweet summit]

5. not pressing buttons

[brittle owl]

it's usually 1+2+3 though

and 5 yes

[sweet summit]

If you have a log, drop it here

If you dont, do a key and log it

[brittle owl]

there's a 6th, but it's not that impactful unless you're gross, and that is wasting rage

[sweet summit]

Then drop it here

Man when i watch some streams i see demo shout used at 60+ rage, i internally cringe

[brittle owl]

that is gross indeed

[sick sentinel]

I prob waste rage quite a bit. I can tell that much straight off the bat. I might do too much devestate's aswell but say slam is on CD, isnt devestate the way to go really?

like generally

[brittle owl]

devastate is a filler

i.e. you press it ONLY when you have NOTHING else to press

[sick sentinel]

Yeah i thought as much but thought it had higher prio due to proccing slam

[brittle owl]

narp

there's literally nothing that has lower prio than devastate

maybe non proc revenge in AoE

not even sure about that one

[sick sentinel]

Yeah i was about to say, but should be about the same then xD

How about non-procc revenge on single target?

[frosty wren]

@sick sentinel what kind of Dungeons do u run Right now

[sick sentinel]

16's-19's Due to having to pug Dps which don't really understand how the game works. Had a premade group and wasnt that long ago that i got back to the game, hence why i started versa stacking straight off but gathering a TD "offset" currently

[frosty wren]

https://raider.io/characters/eu/blackhand/Eráwarri

That’s me rn, could do every single dungeon 20+, if I have the time to do so. U don’t need to stack versa before +25 dungeons

And I also play mostly with Randomes

[sick sentinel]

Is it really worth running double ineffable?

[frosty wren]

I can mostly use avatar again after it’s expires

E.g.

[sick sentinel]

Cause i swapped my 455 haste/vers IT 1 legs for a pair of 445 vers/crit legs with Versatile 2

[frosty wren]

It’s definitely better than stacking versa rn

[sick sentinel]

https://raider.io/characters/eu/ragnaros/Dedraterx

that's mine

@frosty wren

[frosty wren]

If u want to do much more damage get some td, your gear is for survival designed

I did with my built on wm +20 85k overall

[sick sentinel]

Yeah i know. It's cause i had a premade so i started stacking so we could push but that fell out so now im full versa amp stacked and dont have gear to trade out for TD 😦

[sweet summit]

Youre full vers in 15-19s?!

[sick sentinel]

-.-

[sweet summit]

Uhoh

[sick sentinel]

Read previous comments.

Been back in the game for like 4-5 weeks. And yes i had a premade team that was running 20's but missing a proper tank so i started stacking vers amps straight off the bat, now that fell out so im stuck in this gear really cause i don't have gear to swap with xD

I have TD5 but nothing to swap out so i can run it without going 100+ corruption 😛

[frosty wren]

Yea I know, it’s not wrong running like u did, but at this level u can survive anything without a single versa curropt and when u have bad Randomes damage is barely

[sick sentinel]

Yeah, im like stuck in limbo rn xD

i have TD's to swap in, but nothing to swap off so i loose corruption

[solemn venture]

It’s fine to have a piece with td 3 on it with haste/vers if you’re in that range. Crit is ideal but if all u got is haste/vers gear, just take one haste/vers piece and slap a td3 on it and reconfigure you’re corruption budget

It’s not back and white to go full vers or not full vers if that is all you have @sick sentinel

[sick sentinel]

Doing it rn. I have TD3 on bracers and TD2 on boots. But ilvl is not optimal and i had to scavenge through my bank and found some offpieces with shitty corrupts or none at all so got a set with TD5 and double versatile 3

sitting @ 51 corrupt currently

But only 1 piece with actual crit on it lol

[solemn venture]

You’ll be fine

Performance is key 🔑

[toxic remnant]

TFW you get asked if you have full versa gear for 15 lmao

I swear raider.io sometimes hurts more than it helps

[sweet summit]

Thats kinda yikes

[toxic remnant]

Well I guess it helps knowing you dodged a bullet

[strong forum]

Yup

[frosty wren]

@toxic remnant the Community nowadays is sometimes dumb af. When I began playing BfA 3 months ago my old raidlead told me I can’t play without going full versa, he is still stuck at 6/12 HC

[strong forum]

Lmao

How does he feel that people pugged and full cleared that raid day1?

Or that 30 tanks can clear the raid without doing mechanics?

[frosty wren]

[strong forum]

It's always easy to blame the tanks

And even easier to blame it on something you don't understand

[fathom spindle]

Blaming the tanks is the way to go 👌
I still got blamed when a DPS died to the witch boss in Waycrest, since i did not hold aggro (on those not activate that random cast).

Damage taken on him was 94% from Aura of dread.
When i linked the details, i was a idiot, and i should kys, and he left 😄

[strong forum]

"Shit tank let me die when I was taking a dick by doing a mechanic wrong!!! "

[fathom spindle]

How dare i?!

Luckely i Rarely PuG.
But every once in awhile i need a bit of extra echoes.

It roughly takes 10-15 minutes until i come to the realization on why i Rarely PuG

”This is not the MDI route”.

Oh i’m sorry.
Their DPS pulls 200-300 k on 3 target cleave, you pull 50 k 🤷‍♂️

[toxic remnant]

The worst to me is when they pull stuff and then they start running away from me like I'm the police or something

Shit's hilarious

[fathom spindle]

This happens way to often in the sprider and fear guy pylon.

Oh shit, i got an add on me, better leg it!

Spider*

[sweet summit]

🦵

[still pagoda]

The worst thing that happened to me is pugs buttpulling with no regard to their own positioning

[strong forum]

As soon as I started picking up tanking I instantly got into the habit of looking behind me

When walking somewhere dicey

[still pagoda]

^ me 3 years ago

[fathom spindle]

Has happened like 1000 on Trixie and Nano, so i just clear everything there

[strong forum]

I wonder how many people think I went back to pull a pack behind us

Not realising that I just saved our ass

[toxic remnant]

Early Legion hunter's barraging the whole dungeon #neverforget

[fathom spindle]

Still got Meme-beaming DH’s on skittish week, with no tricks etc.

Lovely affair

Are your PuG players also allergic to the interupt button, or am i the lucky one?

[strong forum]

Even my premades are allergic to that

[fathom spindle]

F

[strong forum]

I wish I had 3 interrupts

[solemn venture]

Even my premades are allergic to that
@strong forum fucking truth

[strong forum]

Or I wish I had myself 5x in the groupc

Everything would be so fucking easy

[sweet summit]

Can u heal?

[strong forum]

I'll figure that out

[sweet summit]

😂

[strong forum]

I know what hurts

[sweet summit]

Oh yeah

[strong forum]

And when nobody takes dmg, you don't need to heal :)

[loud shoal]

you can just mass reflect in SL so that's like having an extra kick

ez

[strong forum]

But my TV :(

But yeah, if you bring a warri he'll often be forced into mass reflect

Or as dps you do a 500iq play and Taunt before a reflect on tank happens

And you snipe that

[loud shoal]

I imagine they will change the lego in some way so... we shall see

[strong forum]

But, I doubt even the 1% will pull that off

Cuz it's also giga risky

[fathom spindle]

Well, i had a WW monk taunt a Tyrannical boss once, and pop touch of Death rather than Karma.
He got insta gibbed.

So atleast he tried 🤷‍♂️

Almost the same thing

[still pagoda]

[hardy siren]

my portal bosses aren't going especially smoothly. on the blob my guys often want me to hand around so they can get healed, but then struggle with patches. on the fear boss I'll get aggro on the adds, start kiting then see my melee have aggro on them and are fighting them+ not moving. melee moan for slower kiting on spider, but then theres issues with interrupts as it doesnt get LoSed. on the tank buster Im sometimes getting cut from my healer going too fast or caught with growths if too slow.

these common issues?

[still pagoda]

you can just mass reflect in SL so that's like having an extra kick
@loud shoal

If DPS of the spec will be bad without double revenge lego, than i doubt it will be used

[strong forum]

TV > double revenge

By miles

[loud shoal]

It will depend on the dungeon, but as it stands mass reflect will def trump any damage lego in keys

[sick sentinel]

how long do i have to get my TD 15 done before it goes away forever mindborer achievment

guessing october

[novel ruin]

Prepatch

No exact date

[sick sentinel]

so, if it's pre-patch next week im screwed?

[novel ruin]

You have at least 2ish months

[sick sentinel]

oh okay thank god

[strong forum]

Ya you're still save

[storm ocean]

Searing flames or another rank of td ? I'm currently at 462 ilevel

[still pagoda]

another rank of TD

[storm ocean]

ok thanks

[still pagoda]

but you can cleanse wrathion sword if it is your best weapon

[elder plinth]

IS aegis of the deep rank1 better to use on minor essence than lucid dreams rank3?

if I have 2 vers corruptions

[sweet summit]

Wait what essences are you running, why cant you have both?

[novel ruin]

could be running strength of the warden

[sweet summit]

O true

Id take lucid, but aegis is probably more average vers if thats what you want

[sick sentinel]

TD may have to wait until not bolstering week

[mental anchor]

Echoing void devil on your shoulder has entered the chat

[crystal sequoia]

what flask do prot warriors use ?

[sweet summit]

Greater Strength

[crystal sequoia]

and what food?

[sweet summit]

Haste

[brittle owl]

you use unbridled for ST, empowered proximity for big aoe, strength if you're lazy

[sweet summit]

Baked port tato?

[brittle owl]

yeah its the tater

[buoyant walrus]

Blob portal with explosive made my dps brains stop working

Soooo many went off

Then they all quit

[modern brook]

blob portal?

[buoyant walrus]

Lol my way of saying blood of the corruptor

[modern brook]

OH

no that makes sense im just not thinking

thats a yikers tho; what dungeon?

[still pagoda]

blob pillar basically*

:D

thats a yikers tho; what dungeon?
@modern brook
Bad DPS will ruin it no matter the dung

[buoyant walrus]

Junkyard again lol

I even made sure to get a hunter and a rogue for explosive and they still couldn’t manage it

[modern brook]

Sure but the only thing that makes blood hard is when its in like hallways like in TD and things get covered in goop and now you're sad

i mean the boss low key trucks, but nothing unmanageable

[buoyant walrus]

Just the tentacles spawning the explosives and none of my dps swapping to them and like 4 went off

[modern brook]

Yeah 2head DPS

just trying to empathize

cause soemtimes on that boss when i dps they're like "hey nerd why arent you killing it" and im just crying in melee waiting for my 2min cd to come up to let me actually punch it

[buoyant walrus]

Lol yeah true

[leaden dune]

445 with td3 will beat 470 without right

[storm ocean]

Guys is there a guide about major and minor essences to use? I'm new to prot warrior and want to make sure i use the right ones.

I've looked at the pins and they just discuss a few of the majors

[civic rover]

vision major, strengh of the warden/conflict&strife/lucid dreams as minors

[storm ocean]

Sound i have the first 4 and im 4 days of lucid rank 3

[slender owl]

.

[steep bone]

Ilgy head or sea-brawler greathelm?

[sweet summit]

ilgy

[steep bone]

pog

shield+head from first ilgy kill

unstable flames, heed my call or ablative shielding?

[sweet summit]

UF or heed

can sim, UF for defence

[steep bone]

thanks

[arctic python]

475 without leach, or 465 with leach?

[warm plinth]

You don't drop ilevel for leech

[novel ruin]

ilvl

[arctic python]

Can someone explain why you prio ilvl even if there's not 100% correct stats ?

[undone sun]

More stats > better stats

[novel ruin]

If you are doing world first keys go ahead and drop ilvl for leech but if you are doing those kind of keys, you wouldnt be here asking questions

[undone sun]

https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/protection-warrior-pve-tank-stat-priority

[steep bone]

Is it only me or cara is more annoying than nzoth

[strong forum]

cara is hella comfy

[novel ruin]

cara is annoying because so much downtime

nzoth is annoying because the fight sucks

[sweet summit]

and is fucking 4 hours long too

[steep bone]

its my first full clear on mythic and i have to say that its a joke

like no changes from heroic

[novel ruin]

that isnt true

[steep bone]

i mean dunno how it was on prog as a tank

but now its a joke

[novel ruin]

i guess from a tank perspective there prob isnt a ton of changes

[steep bone]

well ye

[sick sentinel]

Somebody got or knows how to create a Weakaura which shows the Maximum ignore pain shield I can have?

Cause with alchemist trinket procs, vers procs and cloak procs it gets higher/lower

[sweet summit]

why is that important

just seems like unnessesarry clutter

[strong forum]

Maximum proc is 1.3x of the tooltip

👍

the default IP WA linked in #268491842637660160 will indicate via the colours if your IP is close to max or not

[rancid ember]

Help > Your own opinions. Just my 2 cents.

[undone sun]

ironic

[warm plinth]

A little too ironic, don't you think?

[sweet summit]

i dont get it

[strong forum]

he didnt provide any help either

only his opinion

[rancid ember]

@strong forum Because you answered in a healthy way. Thank you !

Good work @ Diminishing that though.

[strong forum]

unluck

[sweet summit]

i still dont get it whatever

[strong forum]

is fine, youre our favourite 3head

like usual

[sweet summit]

[warm plinth]

My comment was a song lyric

[kind spindle]

Any tips for Shrine this week? Just upgraded my key to a 19 and hate that dungeon..

[strong forum]

avoid it

Explosive Tyrannical last boss just begs you to deplete the key

most times youre reliant on your ranged dps to kill the orbs on last boss which during a burn phase can get forgotten real quick since they can spawn literally everywhere due to the adds spawning

easily the worst key this week

[rancid ember]

Can everyone see explosives or just those in their own phase?
Also I would avoid pulling the Windspeaker Mob after 1st boss unless you know how to pull her 4 mobs without pulling her.

[sweet summit]

everyone

[strong forum]

everybody sees them

[rancid ember]

is it really that bad on last boss then? 2 Mobs in 1 phase, 1 mob in the other /w Tank right?

I guess Boss can still drop em too

[strong forum]

when youre burning the boss, he spawns adds, those that you kite

they can spawn orbs inside the void zones / way outside

[sweet summit]

one go off and healer go byebye

[rancid ember]

True, I was thinking the phasing part being the issue.. Not the regular part

[strong forum]

regular part is the dangerous part

[kind spindle]

Figured as much. It'll be my first 19 too which is intimidating on its own heh. My io is low enough even being over by like 20 minutes will still be an upgrade

[strong forum]

get ready to be stuck on said boss for a while, its a bitch and a half

[warm plinth]

Healer doesn't die to explosives

[kind spindle]

I'll just find some chill people to run it with. Get that 18 key for next week and level alt

[warm plinth]

Explosives do % HP damage

[sweet summit]

is explo %hp

oh

[strong forum]

explosives are % based

[sweet summit]

how much?

[warm plinth]

50%

[sweet summit]

ahh

[rancid ember]

Yeah I'd say get a group willing to time it for a diff 18 key. Explosives are % based

[strong forum]

i thought 40%

[sweet summit]

TIL

[strong forum]

:think:

[rancid ember]

40% i believe

[warm plinth]

It might be 40% in BFA

[strong forum]

even then, you get so many orbs when the adds spawn

[warm plinth]

Idk, it's a lot of damage, but that's like 1 HoT tick for a healer on that boss

[strong forum]

especially in annyoing ass places

[warm plinth]

Yeah looks like it was reduced to 40% in BFA

TIL

[main shoal]

Hey guys during avatar do i need to keep block up all the time?

[sweet summit]

yes

unless you get 250% mastery?

@strong forum whats the "cap" on mastery where you dont need to press sb

[strong forum]

way too high

[still pagoda]

~300%

[undone sun]

isn't it 200

[strong forum]

i only know how much mastery you need for 100% mastery, but not 100% block

[sweet summit]

85% mast is 28% block

[strong forum]

it DRs insanely much

[sweet summit]

aw

[steep bone]

27,84% haste with food buff yay&nay?

[strong forum]

could be better

but its enough to fulfill minimum requirement

[still pagoda]

38% with food

[distant crystal]

42.25% with food

am i doing this right

somehow the 85 vers from heart + 109 from vision minor = 195 total

[steep bone]

lol i was running with 21 haste all the time

unluck

[distant crystal]

https://tenor.com/2OjP.gif

[steep bone]

and i just got mythic vita

[strong forum]

i hate being below 30% haste ngl

and luckily my full vers set + vers sockets is 31% haste

[honest plinth]

i have 23 haste currently and 51 vers

[warm plinth]

I have 32.39% haste with no food

[still pagoda]

40.68% haste if i'm going with vex chest

37.84% if with ashvane warden

[warm plinth]

That's with no ITF ofc

[still pagoda]

zero ItF of course

[distant crystal]

63.59 with max ITF

[warm plinth]

Oh wait, 28.53% actually

I must have had a split second ITF stack when I checked last lol

[distant crystal]

i think that means there's a rogue on you

quick, t-clap

[warm plinth]

😬

[strong forum]

i hate vers stacking i hate vers stacking i hate vers stacking i hate vers stacking

[pastel crown]

Vers stacking is great for carpal tunnel recovery.

[strong forum]

i was just checking old vod

from last week FH

https://i.imgur.com/fpbAoXi.png

this is what the healing meter looks like

most of the time

i fucking

sleep

[distant crystal]

pull bigger

[strong forum]

this was triple pull

[distant crystal]

start 3 chesting stuff boi

[warm plinth]

Sounds like you need a quad pull

or a quint-pull

[strong forum]

its so stupid

[distant crystal]

i've been trying to convince my tank to do the first 3 + 1 from upstairs pull

at start of freehold

3 pull with lust feels small man

[strong forum]

you just fall asleep

i run fucking 6% leech and thats enough to keep me alive in 22-24s

COME ON

literally the same as 15s without vers

[prisma crane]

Nom, which WA you use for vers tracking?

[strong forum]

just checked around on wago, found one that had seperated stats and deleted everything but vers

cuz those type of WAs eat immense amount of resources

[prisma crane]

ahhh, ok, thought that may be the case, since it looked like those ones

[still pagoda]

drop it here please

[strong forum]

uuuuhh.

[distant crystal]

i just run one that shows all my stats on all characters

[prisma crane]

copy pasta the text

[distant crystal]

so i can stare at it while ramping on my spriest

crit go brrrrrr

[still pagoda]

copy pasta the text
@prisma crane

Skyhold, the Bastion of Bootleg WA's

👍

[strong forum]

Waat, those type of WAs eat hella resources for no gain

[prisma crane]

YES

his is clear meme

[strong forum]

https://pastebin.com/GYQkdJUu

[still pagoda]

Vivv made bootleg Naowh-lookalike WA's for prot and arms

[prisma crane]

thanks brochacho

[still pagoda]

i'm planning to do the same for protadin and BDK

now Nom's bootleg vers stuff

[rugged lake]

Is the Humming Black Dragonscale trinket of any use for Prot?

[prisma crane]

yea

it's a solid trinket and easy to get in mythic variant

[primal sable]

Gives you style points

[steep bone]

@still pagoda im making naowh fully ui look-a-like tho xD

[still pagoda]

Is the Humming Black Dragonscale trinket of any use for Prot?
@rugged lake

#2 haste trink

[prisma crane]

plus it is just like red bull, yes

[still pagoda]

@still pagoda im making naowh fully ui look-a-like tho xD
@steep bone

I can drop my bootleg ElvUI which looks kinda similar

[rugged lake]

Oh that's cool

[still pagoda]

Me creating it was an accident

[rugged lake]

thanks

[steep bone]

ive like this atm

[warm plinth]

@strong forum I'll eat your resources for no gain

[steep bone]

tbh most valuable resource from such 'streamers UI' are custom settings on buffs/debuffs on framers

[strong forum]

😳

[steep bone]

like buffs on party frames

[still pagoda]

tbh most valuable resource from such 'streamers UI' are custom settings on buffs/debuffs on framers

Reverse engineering: Am i a joke to you?

[strong forum]

my custom setting is that Thunderclap glows when Avatar is active

:pog:

cant wait to clean UI though with pre-patch

and delete so much shit

[steep bone]

removing all of those bfa related weak auras

ugh

[strong forum]

[steep bone]

guys, is it expensive to level blacksmith?

[strong forum]

depends on what you count as expensive

[steep bone]

dunno

[strong forum]

its defo below 100k

[steep bone]

because tailoring is like 15k

[strong forum]

i think its between 20 and 60k

[still pagoda]

with current prices

around 15k

[steep bone]

would be pog

[still pagoda]

gonna level engi on my pala too

[steep bone]

im missing legs for mythic tmog

;_;

[still pagoda]

which just requires insane amount of ore

but ever piece costs like 2s

[steep bone]

poggies

thanks

[still pagoda]

time to make paladin Naowh bootleg @steep bone

[steep bone]

is that ipse or luxtos wa's

[still pagoda]

Afenar's

[steep bone]

[still pagoda]

this took only 5 minutes

[steep bone]

i think im gonna make template for my auras with blank spaces

ready to put triggers on

[still pagoda]

@steep bone

[pastel crown]

can the aqir darter's in mythic hivemind be feared with intimadating shout?

[distant crystal]

yes

[pastel crown]

i was storm bolting and shockwaving

didn't think to try int shout

[woven trellis]

do we agree

on KR 3rd boss

the chasing guy

can just be taunt 1sec before cast finish

and i taunt him back

and everything is solved?

or is it something else we should do

[strong forum]

the charge guy will 1shot a dps

if they get the slap

[woven trellis]

yeah

but if hes a holy pal

he wont get slapped

is he?

[strong forum]

the slap itself does dmg

alot

[woven trellis]

ok

so whats the thing to do

ideally

[strong forum]

kiting

you get slapped, then run around the room

[woven trellis]

but the slap will kill the tank as well in very high key no?

[strong forum]

not at all

[woven trellis]

aite

he has a pretty large hitbox

[strong forum]

the slap is infinite range

[woven trellis]

no but

when ure kiting him

[strong forum]

ya you gotta be fast

[woven trellis]

i find it pretty tricky

loads of time u think ure out of range

but ure not

[strong forum]

basically, you get on almost max range

when hes casting the slap

then run, when he gets close you leap away again

[brittle owl]

it's a she

[strong forum]

alternatively you can have hpal / monk / melee dps taunt the boss away

idgaf

[woven trellis]

i prefer the taunt tech

[brittle owl]

do you really want to run away like a bitch

take it like a fucking man

running is whack

just parry

4head

[strong forum]

and you taunt back before it reaches the dps / healer

[woven trellis]

no

fuck those healers

they can die

[brittle owl]

this guy gets it

they taunt it they tank it fuck em

[woven trellis]

yeah

[brittle owl]

thatll teach a bitch to stay in their place

[opal gorge]

Is Haste Mastery the better stat priority now or are we still aiming for Haste vers?

i know the guides are old since corruption selecting is a thing

[strong forum]

mastery is the least desirable stat

of all

[mellow patio]

Has been this way most of bfa

[novel ruin]

You shouldnt have someone taunt the charge on 3rd boss of KR

Just kite yourself

[strong forum]

for general use its ilvl>haste>crit=vers>mastery
for HIGH+++ keys its haste>=vers 0crit0mastery

[novel ruin]

Otherwise you have 2 people not having uptime on the boss

[opal gorge]

OKay so i can haste crit? Perfect just trying to fine tune now that im 460

[strong forum]

ya

[arctic python]

Is alchemist stone worth it even if you dont have it for mythic once u start doing 23+

[novel ruin]

It can be if full vers

[arctic python]

and u opt for full vers around that key level for certain dungeons right ?

[ionic fern]

Roughly yes,if you feel the need for it.

[steep bone]

Why is alchemist stone only for full vers build?

[novel ruin]

Because you would get more value out of scale than Alch stone without full vers

[steep bone]

Oohh its stat is vers

i always thought it was main stat

[novel ruin]

It’s proc is main stat

[onyx vessel]

mostly its cuz of vers + better life potions

[novel ruin]

With full vers, yeah

It’s proc has about 20% ish uptime

[onyx vessel]

who isnt playing full vers or full td

full haste is just dumb

[novel ruin]

Sometimes dumb can be fun

[steep bone]

full haste is poggies

[novel ruin]

Vers is only fun when you pull massive

[onyx vessel]

my guild crys when i pull 2 spires with final bosses

[novel ruin]

Get better guildies

[steep bone]

probably not their skill level

[warm plinth]

How much do health pots heal for with full vers build with alc trinket o_o I bet it's juicy

[novel ruin]

I pull 2 spires on KR

[warm plinth]

Since they're already affected by vers on its own, then the 40% on top

[novel ruin]

Wait

Pots are affected by vers???

[warm plinth]

Yes

[novel ruin]

Then it’s bout 400k

[warm plinth]

Spicy

[onyx vessel]

[novel ruin]

No wonder

It felt like it did more than 200k every time I popped a pot lol

[warm plinth]

It even updates on the tooltip iirc. Base healing on health pot is 133,350

[novel ruin]

Who reads tooltips...

XD

[warm plinth]

I do accidentally from time to time

[novel ruin]

I read them one time when I first put them on my bars

Then never again

[warm plinth]

XD

Yeah like my DH has around 25% vers and the tooltip says 167,095

[novel ruin]

Do you take more healing from healers with vers?

[sick sentinel]

what is the best week to do my TD 15, bolstering explosive just aint happening

[novel ruin]

Or is it just personal healing?

Next week Yogi

[warm plinth]

Don't think so; it's healing done, not received

[civic rover]

next week is a good week

for almost any dungeon

[warm plinth]

What's next week

[onyx vessel]

a 15 is pretty easy tho

[novel ruin]

Next week is best week for any dungeon besides Siege

[civic rover]

except maybe KR? because minion of zul?

[novel ruin]

No, great KR week

[onyx vessel]

kite it

[warm plinth]

On 15, Zul shouldn't be a big deal; just lust him

[civic rover]

not shadow of zul

[novel ruin]

It’s only 7 stacks from minions

[civic rover]

the little minion fuckers

[warm plinth]

Oh, is it a bursting week?

[civic rover]

yeah

[novel ruin]

7 stacks doesn’t kill

[civic rover]

bursting volcano

[warm plinth]

Yeah it'll be fine

[novel ruin]

Bursting, volcanic, fort

[onyx vessel]

7 stacks kill if healer is dogshit

[novel ruin]

No they don’t

[civic rover]

i dont think so

[novel ruin]

1 stack does 14%

[warm plinth]

If 7 stacks happen at the same time, you literally can't die unless you're not topped

[novel ruin]

14x7 is 98%

[onyx vessel]

xan ive seen healers struggle on 4

[warm plinth]

I mean, it's very different if the stacks are staggered

[civic rover]

it kills when some idiot body pulls them into a trash pull

[onyx vessel]

they just watch ppl die pretty much

[warm plinth]

It gets out of control fast

[novel ruin]

Play with better healers or stop extending em

[onyx vessel]

[modern gale]

7 stacks up front is fine, 7 stacks with 4 resets is not

[novel ruin]

Yes

Don’t extend

[warm plinth]

Like if you roll a 3 stack to 4 at the last second, that's 87.5% max HP

[civic rover]

just make sure you have a BE in your group 5head

[warm plinth]

Altogether

[novel ruin]

And bursting can be DRed

[onyx vessel]

just play with a resto drood or a holy pally

ggs

[novel ruin]

Press Spell Reflect every bursting

[warm plinth]

Rolling stacks is the #1 killer of PUGs on bursting week

[novel ruin]

20% less

[onyx vessel]

my tooltip is 198.8k for healthpot

[warm plinth]

Juicy

[steep bone]

AD

[novel ruin]

Gratz!

How was Rezan bleed?

[leaden dune]

Quick question

Is it worth running td3 it puts me at 45 corruption

[steep bone]

we depleto XD

i can't believe we depleto 15 ad

[leaden dune]

Should I spend echoes to upgrade cloak so can use without tfb

And how

[steep bone]

How was Rezan bleed?
@novel ruin tbh it didn't do anything at all

@leaden dune you can play with 45 corruption ye

[leaden dune]

Thankyou should o use echoes to make so it’s under 40

[sharp nimbus]

@leaden dune you can Spell Reflect the friend from Beyond

[leaden dune]

Or should I hold them

And ooo thankyou

O jjsy did a 6 freehold

But I was using fury traits haha

[steep bone]

but sometimes you want to reflect something else than tfb

[leaden dune]

Also I got a ilvl 400 wep n sheild

[steep bone]

but early on i played with 59 corruption and it was fine

[sharp nimbus]

you can also fear it, stun it, leap. etc

[leaden dune]

Thankyou

Also any dungeons you recommend for wep n sheild

Was thinking ml

[steep bone]

but yeah spend echoes on cloak upgrades

any shield thats 465 is good if u dont have 465 yet

[leaden dune]

Okay thankyou I did think cloak over corruptions arm

I’m running ilvl 400

Sheild and wep

Spammed ad normal lol

[steep bone]

do m0 get 430 or try some lower m+ like ad

[leaden dune]

Yeah okay I’ll spam ad if poss

I ran a lot of the m0

[steep bone]

i assume you don't have vision yet?

[leaden dune]

And no one to really help me to try to sheild

Not yet but I know how

Spam low workshop

[steep bone]

you could run some mechagon, that shield is shit but better than nothing and still ilvl on shield is everything

[leaden dune]

I got it rank 1

I’ll spam some ml I need vop rank 3 anyway

Workshop I mean

[steep bone]

ml shield is nice

[leaden dune]

Also to do 15s what would you say I need ilvl wise

I’m guessing a single td3 is enough for 15s

Like I’m not bothering higher

[steep bone]

td3 is more than enough ye

[leaden dune]

Only hit 120 last night and only just got a wep and sheild lol

[steep bone]

with current corruption you can have td5 2x it and be at 32 corrupt

[leaden dune]

Yeah that’ll be sometime away tho as only just been 120

[steep bone]

dunno, if you know-ish how to play it you can do 15s with like 440

but doubt people gonna inv you cuz low ilvl

[leaden dune]

Yeah 440 is easy get tho

But unless I get lucky I won’t be on enough to catch up lol

[steep bone]

you do cloak questline, all m0 and you're basically 430

[leaden dune]

Yeah exactly

[steep bone]

nah, i catched up really fast

less than 2 months

[leaden dune]

Only 2-3 months apparently till prepaych tho

[steep bone]

is it announced

i doubt its gonna come sooner than 3-4months

[leaden dune]

What keys you running now btw

[mystic finch]

quick question: what's the name of the flask, elixir, potion, etc that some tanks use to get more vers instead of the str flask?

TIA

[leaden dune]

Not sure sorry

[steep bone]

@leaden dune https://raider.io/characters/eu/kazzak/Waîfu this basically but im pleb and i didn't bothered myself to do any pushes last week xD

[leaden dune]

Thankyou so I should easily be able get 15s done before end bfa

Is that puffing

Pug

[steep bone]

@mystic finch it was some elixir, this one i think

[still pagoda]

^ still not worth it if you're not doing WF keys

[steep bone]

I've seen femclap or naowh actually using one of those

aye

[strong forum]

Also the wrong flask

They're using Ghost Elixir

Which grants 76 vers

Making it a total of almost 150 vers with full vers% corruptions

[steep bone]

Oh ye

my bad

[mystic finch]

yeah, i was just wondering what the name was since some friends and I were talking about it but none of us knew what it actually was

TYSM, everyone!

[steep bone]

@strong forum i jbaited myself as that one i linked is actually 600g on my server

[strong forum]

F

[still pagoda]

Ah

Yeah

Welcome to outdated and worthless shit becoming pricey because "X used it in +30"

[novel ruin]

Yup

[steep bone]

man

[novel ruin]

At least you can find them on the market now

[steep bone]

cuz of WF players

pugs demand you to have FULL VERSA in 16-19keys

[still pagoda]

I got kicked out of numerous +20-21 groups for not running vers over last weeks

[steep bone]

i mean can't blame them

alot of pug tanks just melts

so they blame it on no versa rather than 0skill

[still pagoda]

Should always blame on zero idea on how to play

😁

[steep bone]

but then it goes into blaming tank for no skills while it's actually others fault

i.ex me flipping in 20 forti sob with hpriest and whole teamblaming me for having NO VERS and dying to dot on trash from 3rd boss

[still pagoda]

5/10 groups i reg i'm either declined or kicked out because "zero vers scrub go learn your class", 3/10 are unfinished due to DPS/healer being terrible and dying from every single avoidable mechanic

And only 1 key miraculously working out with 1 minute left from the timer

Haven't done any keys in 2 days

[steep bone]

man i depleted 16 td before that ad

[still pagoda]

Too tired

[steep bone]

literally had hpala doing 0 heals on last boss

[still pagoda]

Because of pugging

[steep bone]

i was outhealing him as prot

[still pagoda]

Like

Seriously

Pugging is such a fucked up experience

[steep bone]

btw. getting 475 socket shield over 465 shield gave me GIGA boost to staying alive, i feel tankier rn, but dunno if not placebo and im just playing better

[still pagoda]

That i don't want to do any keys after it

btw. getting 475 socket shield over 465 shield gave me GIGA boost to staying alive, i feel tankier rn, but dunno if not placebo and im just playing better

Probably both

Since shield gives a huge boost to block value

[steep bone]

like before when i did 15+ ish for memes

i was actually taking dmg

now i just yawn

[wooden radish]

@ancient dew https://www.twitch.tv/limit_maximum/clip/PricklyFilthyPeafowlBibleThump

[steep bone]

waaait

was that demon huntard assuming warrior mains are idiots

[still pagoda]

@steep bone it is the same guy saying that warr is ruined

[steep bone]

im not following many 'pros'

[still pagoda]

Just after playing barebones spec on day one of beta

[wooden radish]

yes

[still pagoda]

Without SoF conduit(that is currently discussed in #698541559049748520 ) or anything else technically

[steep bone]

but actually

having few warriors to play more than 1 spec will be pain in the ass

unless my info is outdated

[still pagoda]

it is not

you'll be able to switch conduits only once a week

[steep bone]

might aswell go bdk at beggining

[still pagoda]

and covenants are still locked

[steep bone]

ayy lmao

i hope its gonna be fixed to 1per day or some

[still pagoda]

yeah

it locks it out to one activity/spec for a week]

which is just GARBAGE IDEA

[tender phoenix]

is Lingering Psychic Shell any good for M+ or is it more for Raids?

[steep bone]

its useless in raids id say

[still pagoda]

is Lingering Psychic Shell any good for M+ or is it more for Raids?
@tender phoenix

Good for high M+, situational in current raid

outside of Mythic Ilgy, you won't use it much

[steep bone]

i forced myself to use it

[tender phoenix]

ah ok tyvm

[steep bone]

it locks it out to one activity/spec for a week]
@still pagoda i mean in current state im rarely swapping spec in any content but early on when tanks do no damage itll be yikes to do content

@still pagoda

[still pagoda]

didn't drop for me today

[steep bone]

it didnt drop for me either

our mage was simming it for some other spec and 2mins before it couldnt be traded he just traded cuz won roll

was pog

[still pagoda]

zero vita drops today

for whole raid

at least i've got carapace mace

[steep bone]

i think we had two actually

maan we had wipe fest on cara

ppl trolled

[still pagoda]

we didn't have vita drops last week either

it took them 6 pulls this week

i'm going in only on the next one as a trial

[steep bone]

literally this clear i swapped all my azerites, trinket and shield, feels like i got boosted with loot trade

[still pagoda]

still want abyssal malevolence

getting the best helmet overall would be great

and bring mythic N'zoth helmet out of the question

[steep bone]

atm ive ilgy head, vex chest, skitra shoulders

im pretty set

[still pagoda]

i forgot about one button in pala

WA

FUCKING REBUKE

[steep bone]

lmao

[still pagoda]

will probably move something around

going to redo main WA anyway

and it's WIP

[steep bone]

im usually having first row of abilities that never changes

[still pagoda]

also making small WIP of some other stuff @steep bone

[steep bone]

i have fury auras if u want

;D

[still pagoda]

i'm gonna make these

like

it's basically the same template

[steep bone]

yeah its also same

i mean i've fury ones from times pre remade of prot ones

like this xd

@still pagoda if you want to stea.... i mean use same colors as someone's then there's nice extension for browsers that let you check color id of selected element, on chrome it's called ColorZilla

Like i couldn't find what color he's actually using on rage bar so i just yoloed red, but it was actually tomato soup color

[civic rover]

3k io rogue joins my friends 16 underrot, eats cragmaw frontal, then leaves. did sub 50k overall dps @still pagoda i'm starting to understand what you mean by the 3k trap

[still pagoda]

@steep bone currently something like this

Also added Storm Bolt to your miscellaneous WA

which wasn't present here despite it being a valuable tool for all 3 specs

[steep bone]

Make bottom row dynamic group

it'll be alot easier

@civic rover besides 3k check his runs done, many people gets boosted, if he has very little runs done or runs done with way higher rio people than he is then it's giving you signs that he's a trap

[still pagoda]

Make bottom row dynamic group
@steep bone

It is

i just added Storm Bolt as a separate Show-when-Ready aura and allowed group to be used on all specs

[steep bone]

how come there's empty space then

[still pagoda]

ah. You're talking of main one? For now

[steep bone]

Oh

[still pagoda]

dunno what to fit in these places

[steep bone]

i mean

i split main one into two

[still pagoda]

ah

i remember

[steep bone]

its just first row underneath energy bar

[still pagoda]

i'm just still using pre-split one

[steep bone]

and then second one is dynamic group

[still pagoda]

hmm

[steep bone]

makes it easier to work on

[still pagoda]

pretty interesting decision

will probably use the new one you made to work on pala

[steep bone]

especially for specs that doesn't have many buttons

orthings to track

[still pagoda]

Paladin

[steep bone]

like i shrinked prot one to remove cloak from dynamic group and it only appears when its on cooldown since you're hardly ever using that cloak anyway

[still pagoda]

though i actually have a lot of buttons on prot

[steep bone]

naa

[sick sentinel]

i got both of those from the heroic cache for 4 mythic dungeon

[deep steppe]

do we have any auction house bois in here?

[obtuse yoke]

@deep steppe i like to think i am one

[deep steppe]

perfect i have a question

what would you value this at

[obtuse yoke]

Theunderminejournal.com

Depends on your server

Most prot warriors i feel would buy that just to cleanse and put on versatile

[still pagoda]

@deep steppe cleanse leech

Otherwkse great shield

Just as any 475 shield

[grand drum]

clensing would make it soulbound and he couldnt sell it on the AH

[deep steppe]

@still pagoda I already have a 475 shield, so i was gonna sell this to have some funds for SL

[still pagoda]

For sale ya say

Minimal price of that shield on your server

No normal tank will use leech corruption

[obtuse yoke]

@grand drum he wouldn’t cleanse it, but no one would buy it for leech corruption, so its as valuable as the lowest 475 shield on his realm

[deep steppe]

right but they can cleanse it

[obtuse yoke]

Yes

[deep steppe]

ok so

I play on US - Garrosh

there is no 475 shield on this server lmao

[grand drum]

yea, im saying clensing it would make it unsellable on the AH

[deep steppe]

thus, asking the price

[grand drum]

since its soulbound

[still pagoda]

I play on US - Garrosh

Dead realm???

[deep steppe]

basically (:

[still pagoda]

RIP Halb

[deep steppe]

I sold 475 BOE wrists for 400k this morning though so

[obtuse yoke]

What does theunderminejournal say for a region value on 475 shield?

Dead realms can be good for boes, less saturated market

[deep steppe]

like 750k

[still pagoda]

Spend all your gold and transfer to a better server and faction

[deep steppe]

on my realm

[still pagoda]

[undone sun]

underminejournal also shows prices on other realms

so compare it

[obtuse yoke]

@undone sun that nice realm comparison graph was removed because of some dumb api stuff. Now you have to manually go to different servers, still doable but so much more annoying

[novel ruin]

Try 750k

[deep steppe]

us illidan for example is 650k

[obtuse yoke]

I’d list at 900k for at least a week