are you a lil bitch 
#protection
sweet summit
rancid ember
I'm feeling the same. Verse 3 comes out Friday gonna buy 6 😄
sweet summit
sorry that was toxic
left hatch
ok its never vers>haste
main vault
question stands
left hatch
its haste>versa
rancid ember
I like AD
main vault
noone likes AD
rancid ember
AD best
left hatch
at that level versa amps won't do a ton for you esp if you're easily timing 18's and 19's
sweet summit
im very bad at snapping so i dont like ad
main vault
If AD was the only dungeon, it still wouldnt be the best
left hatch
versa doesn't really shine till you start getting deeper into 20's like 22 and 23, and while its a great stat to mitigate mistakes, point for point its not as good as haste if your brain is awake
(it scales really fucking slowly 86 per .5% dr is oof)
so if you're comfy with how you play, grab 2 IT1's and stick with TD
if you make mistakes or just want a little buffer
grab some versa amps
main vault
*85
left hatch
but going whole hawg into versa pre 20's is.... super overkill
and you won't see a good return from it
rancid ember
It still gets the job done, and allows for a little more error.
umbral ibex
@left hatch thanks heaps for a great answer mate
rancid ember
He's doing 18 and 19 wants to go beyond.
left hatch
yeh
main vault
Wants to go beyond means he isnt yet
left hatch
hence the advice being geared to that range (:
rancid ember
Overkill =/ Viable
left hatch
and do note its not gonna say you from true FUBAR's a versa amp isn't a stand in for dps that can't interrupt
i never said it wasn't viable
still pagoda
im very bad at snapping so i dont like ad
@sweet summit
I did fuck up around 20-30 snaps in AD
sweet summit
mate
left hatch
i put out the pros of both
sweet summit
ineffable ravager is viable
still pagoda
gladly it's only 50% of all
rancid ember
lol
left hatch
and even advocated for both based on his mindset
still pagoda
Overkill = Viable beyond everything
left hatch
noone said anything about it not being viable (:
still pagoda
main vault
Viable and optimal are not the same thing and shouldnt be treated as such
sweet summit
thank you
rancid ember
zzzzz....
umbral ibex
I literally just started tanking this week so still learning alot :')
sweet summit
for all i care, go vers :p
but its not going to make you do +25s if thats what you want
still pagoda
doing amazing doing 18's your first week
Exactly
left hatch
yah if you want a real deep dive look at versa. don't take it. even if you fuck up and die because you don't have it. the faster you learn from your mistakes the better
cause that shit WILL kill you in 25's without near perfect play even with all the versa amps in the world
but thats just my perspective on learning from your mistakes sooner rather than later
left hatch
id rather know where i fucked up than have a safety blanket and learn nothing
EVEN IF i scuff the key cause of it
(:
chilly brook
If you're getting one shot and your healer can't keep up despite you playing properly then you know you need it
umbral ibex
Thanks fellow stompers. After years of being told to tank by my guildies i have really shut them the fuck up and i actually am.having so much fun im prot.
And yeah very true. Will stay away from it until i think i need it.
How many it1's
Just two ?
left hatch
yeh just 2 IT 1's
sweet summit
1-2 IT 1s
left hatch
2 is kinda a sweet spot for avatar, SB, SR etc
3 is overkill
1 isn't enough to chain avas
chilly brook
I guess I'll be getting IT1s on my now alt this week
umbral ibex
Thanks for the talks peeps gonna pass out its 1.30am here in australia
sweet summit
sleep tight buddy
left hatch
gnight
lucid bison
Is ilvl on azerite still king for m+? I'm in-between gaining 10ilvl but losing 2nd Heart of Darkness
icy harness
erga i just realized
that i didnt have an enchant on my weapon
the entire time i tanked
sweet summit
icy harness
what's our enchant?
sweet summit
force multi
sweet summit
stop assuming vers 
still pagoda
scarlet copper
hey guys, callous reprisal vs clockwork heart?
still pagoda
Clockwork Heart
sweet summit
CwH,. by far
still pagoda
it's BIS filler*
sweet summit
very epic
scarlet copper
sorry last question, but about brace for impact vs. iron fortress?
still pagoda
equal
sweet summit
both are good, id just sim it
still pagoda
well
scarlet copper
I guess I'd err on the side of survivability
still pagoda
there's nearly nothing to sim
sweet summit
IF is always good block value/damage, while BfI is only block value/damage when you use SS
left hatch
IF is better for fortified weeks, BFI is better for Workshop/raid
still pagoda
you use it for rage gen anyway
left hatch
pick your poison
scarlet copper
gotcha gotcha
sweet summit
im sure IF likes you back 
strong forum
Imagine not using SS
Imagine not having perma 2-3 stacks of BFI even in aoe
(if you have the trait)
left hatch
but why slam when you can clap
sweet summit
^
left hatch
were not in SL yet
strong forum
15 rage > 5 rage
sweet summit
big dam>smol dam
left hatch
who need rage when all things are dead
sweet summit
what major essence would work best for ineff rav? VoP?
strong forum
Yes.
sweet summit
pog
left hatch
tbf we already had this talk like..... 5 months ago, and mwahi did the math and found basically no difference to which you delay haha
strong forum
still pagoda
what major essence would work best for ineff rav? VoP?
@sweet summit
Formless with stealing BotE
supple vortex
That’s crazy cus I rolled a chest I already have too Lmao
still pagoda
obtuse yoke
o well it's not like i'm doin keys this week
chilly portal
Currently sitting at rank 4 TD with a vers amp and haste proc ( vers and haste were on the items, not purchased). Seems like good advice is to fill corruption gaps with ineffible truth until I can buy TD again. IT 2 is up on Friday so should I pull the trigger on that?
mellow patio
Buy 2x IT1
clear musk
newbie tank jumping in here for some quick corruption advice:
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/mannoroth/parani
Im at 92 resist, and my total corruption is 103. if i catch up this week (to 101), that brings me to 94 total corruption.
this armory has all my best ilvl pieces. which should i cleanse
chilly portal
2x IT1 no 1 IT2?
exotic spoke
2x IT1 is more efficient for the corruption cost
still pagoda
and should i pick up x2 IT1, or x1 IT2
2x IT1 no 1 IT2?
How this can even be a question?
they're totally additive
chilly portal
Neat. Didn't realize that didn't scale linearly like TD
exotic spoke
And better effect. It’s, to my knowledge, the only corruption where the lower rank is more efficient
chilly portal
@still pagoda read the responses. IT (to my surprise) doesn't scale per corruption like something like twilight dev
So apparently 2x IT1 is better than 1x IT2
still pagoda
@still pagoda read the responses. IT (to my surprise) doesn't scale per corruption like something like twilight dev
@chilly portal
IT2 is indeed much worse. You can just look at their tooltips and do kindergarden-level math :D
exotic spoke
Maybe we shouldn’t insult the people asking for guidance?
civic rover
lol what
exotic spoke
But Riki is a qtpie
It’s implying things. Idk it came of as pretty aggressive to me
distant crystal
i hear he's actually uggo but photoshops himself to be cute
chilly brook
Riki is big dumb tbh
distant crystal
instragramreality smh
exotic spoke
Oof savage Griff
chilly brook
I strive for nothing less
still pagoda
It’s implying things. Idk it came of as pretty aggressive to me
Don't take everything as aggression
cursive burrow
Fuck. I just lost the game.
distant crystal
i got boots today
chilly brook
distant crystal
crit/haste/LEECH
civic rover
that wasn't aggression that was passive aggression
distant crystal
exotic spoke
I dont take everything as aggressive. But it came across that way. That’s all I’m saying
distant crystal
only piece that's not crit/haste now is haste/mast shield
still waiting for G0-4W4Y to fix that
chilly brook
On a serious note it could have been considered condescending
distant crystal
i bet vers is like giga value for me with this loadout
i can see where it could come off mean BUT
he also mentions in that same post that he didn't know it either
civic rover
it was pretty passive aggressive
distant crystal
i say we grant clemency
chilly brook
Tbh I don't really care
clear musk
sorry to ask again - https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/mannoroth/parani
I will pick up x2 IT1, that is 24 corruption. i have
+75 TD3
+50 TD2
+25 TD1
+25 TD1
+35 Void Ritual1
i guess the question is. how much TD should I be running? this whole load out is 477 ilvl, and ideally id like to stay under 60
chilly brook
People asking questions that are already answered in pins and faqs shouldn't be surprised if they get a less than hospitable answer
strong forum
TD5 + 2x IT1
chilly brook
Pins
civic rover
it's the first pin
chilly brook
Theres a writeup on corruptions in pins
civic rover
im big dumb
clear musk
didnt even see the pins, sorry
distant crystal
clear musk
i did run through the FAQ
distant crystal
just need dat malefic core
chilly brook
@clear musk you're fine, I say all that but I truly dont mind answering questions
As most people dont
distant crystal
if everybody just read pins and answered questions for themselves this channel would be deader than me on the first pull of freehold
chilly brook
Just some people get snarky because they answer the same question day in day out
still pagoda
some people just disapear for awhile
Indeed it is me
left hatch
don't you have a spreadsheet that figures that out for you?
still pagoda
i see vers question, i go downstairs to get some tea
left hatch
pink pals
chilly brook
I thought he meant me
exotic spoke
If they get tedious then, imo, no response is better than a snarky / passive aggressive one
strong forum
yeet
exotic spoke
@left hatch who ever could you be talking about
chilly brook
Someone teach me how to prot pally
left hatch
Kaege, griff, me, riki, thyme
exotic spoke
Hi Nome qtpie
left hatch
all have fallen
strong forum
Hallu
left hatch
neither do i
still pagoda
:yep:
still pagoda
chilly brook
Same
exotic spoke
Well, when I was furloughed, and then resigned afterwards, I had more time to actually play games instead of talking about them on disc
That and responsibilities in other discord
sweet summit
does anyone have a cool dragon roar WA?
left hatch
pink pal and DK are also really good rn but balance (outside of dps) are solid
strong forum
Die monk die
left hatch
i havn't seen their legos yet, just know that ToD and their venthyr ability fucking PUMP
distant crystal
he will die in like 15 seconds relax
strong forum
Dragon roar gang
left hatch
and their absorb rn is stupid broken
sweet summit
hey nome can i get a log review
sweet summit
chilly brook
I mean I'm just going to be a spiky fel puke boi
strong forum
Wait 17, I thought you did 25s
left hatch
i go where the meta takes me
chilly brook
@left hatch facts
sweet summit
not with ineffable ravager and dragon roar
chilly brook
I was in big love with prot warrior outside of IP being on GCD in BFA prepatch
sweet summit
i need a DR WA, i could not see its CD. other than that i dropped block and died once
anything else?
chilly brook
Idk if I'd actually consider playing DK though
I just kinda don't find any motivation for it
sweet summit
idk if BV is the play with ineffable ravager
chilly brook
Maybe blood tap and rune tap will make a difference though
sweet summit
i guess the extra damage is nice
strong forum
Damgur = damgur
left hatch
DK is lookin real appealing cause stronk
and UH is looking stronk too
but... do i wanna live life in slow motion
sweet summit
that was less than ideal amount of casts too
left hatch
i like the prep for SL's
getting that muscle memory down
smashing ravager, revenge and DR
exotic spoke
Lol
exotic spoke
I’m prepping by making as much gold as possible
left hatch
oof
sweet summit
BEHIND your bed?
left hatch
put drank on headboard
sweet summit
left hatch
drank spill runs behind headboard
still pagoda
warm plinth
So Riki are you still going to be a prot warrior in SL? 😂
distant crystal
damn
left hatch
now the real question
distant crystal
incoming ant infestation @strong forum 's place
exotic spoke
@warm plinth I’ve played warrior since day one. I’m not changing
left hatch
the real question
which covenent are you going
balance/numbers swapping aside
what speaks to you
exotic spoke
Haven’t looked to be honest
sweet summit
venthyr. the blink is cool
exotic spoke
I was incredibly frustrated with prot in the Beta for BfA and how feedback was ignored.
I see no reason to get invested again in beta and frustrate myself again
left hatch
angel bois have a bzz bzz spear
bitey bois make execute go brrrr
hippies make a pretty blue shockwave
or scourge 2.0 gives you a flag
thats all the info you need
sick sentinel
Hey guys - I'm new to tanking and just rolled a prot warrior to try learning and improving - is there a generic m+ guide to affix tanking? like for example necrotic next week etc etc?
left hatch
pick
strong forum
I got it
sweet summit
dont die
strong forum
Clever use of long range TP
sweet summit
poggers
exotic spoke
Execute go brr. I’m offensively oriented 🙂
sweet summit
@sick sentinel iirc there is a short section about affixes in the wowhead guide
but you also get an absorb after using condemn
so big defense value : )
strong forum
Dmg maximised 📈
left hatch
@sick sentinel theres no real differences between how you tank from affix to affix, don't overpull and your dps usually will kill shit before you get to 30 stacks. if not you can charge or heroic leap away, or shockwave/ walk away to reset your stacks. the BIG difference from week to week is in your routes, which you can get starter routes on raider.io
your execute go brrr can also cleave
so
AOE EXECTURE BRRR BRRR
sweet summit
:O
sick sentinel
thanks a load guys!
sweet summit
how do i cleave execute brr
sweet summit
oh thats epic as fuck
left hatch
each of the covs have a conduit that modifies their signature class ability
strong forum
B-but...
left hatch
the banner gets str an dlasts a bit longer
spear does more damage gives more rage
the shockwave thing does more damage to first target hit
strong forum
My cool warrior bastion armor and ranged root for pvp
left hatch
the condemn cleave by far is the most interesting in how it modifies the ability
sick sentinel
Hi guys, I’m searching for some UI samples by good players. Anyone know how I can search after them like the MDI players. Couldn’t fit any UI of the tanks o:
left hatch
oh im sorry it doesn't cleave. it gets empowered the more targets are nearby
both the damage and the absorb
so a little different
sweet summit
@outer prairie https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/RAG6jtza4qPFLDvJ/#fight=last&type=summary i got a log of the ravager build. was actually not that bad. damage is of course very poor compared to the normal UF+AM (i ran dragon roar because why not). solid fun, can recommend 👍
strong forum
They're self made nicon, and most aren't free( if they're streamers) There's some free ones on wago.io
left hatch
sloot's UI is kinda nice, but you gotta give him 5 dollars
and tell him he looks cute
i just DIY'd my own using WA's and elvui
distant crystal
there's a surprising number of streamers that just use a variety of publicly available weakauras and stuff
and then slap it behind their sub paywall
left hatch
and what you want from a WA is super subjective, i really like a minimalistic one that leaves a lot of screen real estate open
some ppl keep like... 60+% of their sccreen covered in bars and graphs and schematics and battle plans and what have you
my advice is look up a popular WA set and go from there, slowly modify it to suit your needs
distant crystal
there's a guy that makes a UI pack for all 36 specs
forget the name tho
they're all p decent though
sick sentinel
Thanks guys, I guess I will do my own 😅
left hatch
(using the create from template tool is a nice place to start and you can look into what makes the WA tick by checking out the settings after you make a template one)
good way to learn how to do basic wa's of your own
sweet summit
how bad is BSC with Vengence?
sick sentinel
Thanks 🙂
left hatch
my minds blanking on what BSC is
left hatch
oh i was thinking VDH lol
i thinkthe last time i tried toying around with Vengeance was a 15
and it didn't lead to a crazy increase to the amount of Revenges
civic rover
@distant crystal is it Luxthos you're thinking of?
left hatch
and it slows down Rage spending which... bad all around
still pagoda
how bad is BSC with Vengence?
@sweet summit
It was garbo back when veng was a good talent. Now it is even worse
sweet summit
but im not playing AM, so spedning a lot of rage isnt that important
sweet summit
while i do like dragon roar, i also want to try bsc
left hatch
without UF maybe youd get a few more in? but
distant crystal
@civic rover sounds right ye
left hatch
high haste levels and the amount of free ones you get anyway
if anything itll just give you cheaper IP's rather than have meaningful syngergy with BSC
sweet summit
ye i get a lot of free ones with ravager and 40% parry before that
languid flint
What is the taunt option besides the "taunt" spell?
languid flint
ty
sweet summit
ill try vengence but run dragon roar then 
sweet summit
oh yeah brainfart
left hatch
aoe go BRRR
sweet summit
my bad
still pagoda
What is the taunt option besides the "taunt" spell?
@languid flint
There was one talent that allowed for speed taunting during berserker's rage
no more
still pagoda
CHALLENGING ROAR
sweet summit
mocking blow or
still pagoda
sweet summit
ah is it that
still pagoda
indeed
mass taunt returns
not in a way of Mocking Banner
but as a Challenging Roar
left hatch
imagine needing mass taunt LUL
oh wait... we probably will
feelsbadman
RIP prot aoe
sweet summit
:(
left hatch
eh at best its a sidegrade
still pagoda
and DR looks really juicy again
left hatch
cause free procs are down considerably
left hatch
our aoe isn't in a good spot rn
charred ivy
wration 1h corruption not worth?
still pagoda
worse TD1
charred ivy
makes me sad
strong forum
Dragon roar is good snap threat in SL and great dmg 🤷♂️
All the more reason to stack crit
still pagoda
^
obtuse yoke
getting the same azerite 2 times in a row from the vendor should be illegal
obtuse yoke
😠
distant crystal
i've been gambling shoulders for 2 tiers on priest
i might never see a mantle of ceremonial ascension
strong forum
Ya on spriest idk, better to just specific buy them cuz they're legit the only useful shoulders
obtuse yoke
gotcha
warm plinth
Warrior has a fairly easy time with necrotic. Just have to gauge how much in danger you are
distant crystal
if your comp has lots of slows it might not actually do anything
root doesn't happen if mobs are >30% slowed
civic rover
yeah pretty much
so if you have a frost mage or an assassin rogue or something
just go vop or lucid major
gentle ore
Anyone got a good demo shout WA? cant find a good one
fathom nymph
Hey guys, I'm considering a race change on my warrior...
Should I go with Highmountain Tauren or Vulpera? Which one is the best for mythic+ only in mind?
still pagoda
Hey guys, I'm considering a race change on my warrior...
Should I go with Highmountain Tauren or Vulpera? Which one is the best for mythic+ only in mind?
@fathom nymph
Use whatever is aesthetically pleasing to you
difference is miserably low
main vault
Ill delete wow before i go Vulpera
still pagoda
Ill delete wow before i go Vulpera [2]
fathom nymph
I mean, the utility in HT is pretty nice, that rush is kinda cool
still pagoda
i mean
this is still really low
if it is not Legion Arcane Torrent levels, then not worth switching for it
just play whatever is aesthetically pleasing
sweet summit
Dragon roar is defo better than BSC
nome where are you
i require a new log review
vital stratus
OK really need some help with 475 rings - 3 rings, 2 combos:
Combo 1:
599 Haste
582 Vers
Combo 2:
793 Haste
185 Crit
202 Vers
Thinking Combo 1 due to the high vers -- progressing in mythic raid and 15+ keys. Will have haste enchants + 2 R1 ITs
sweet summit
what ever gives you more haste
haste is better than vers
crit is not bad, you get parry and big dam
vers scales very slowly, 85 points of vers for 1% damage/healing or 0.5% DR
and haste is more casts=more rage=more ignore pain casts=less cooldowns=more tanky
it also reduces the cooldown of shield block and thunderclap and shield slam
so tldr haste owns
obtuse yoke
i can versa 3 either these or haste mast boots
sweet summit
dont vers3 anything without vers, you also want haste on said items
obtuse yoke
so only vers3 a haste vers item?
sweet summit
ideally
i have some vers/crit with vers 3
but thats just 1 low budget item
i also have a ring i dont want to talk about
sweet summit
same
last mason
how much of a difference do sockets make when transitioning to a vers set
is as much value as it is for dps
sweet summit
depends on how much vers% you have
last mason
that depends on if how many ilvls i should drop for vers
for example i have like 3 slots where i have 465 haste vers socketed
but also have 475s in those slote
sweet summit
id take a 465 haste+vers over a 475 no haste/no vers if stacking vers
raven knoll
how much % uptime hsould i have with shieldblock and IP? in an m+ key
sweet summit
both are kinda irrelevant
IP you just use to spend rage
SB uptime you have to use logs to see if its good uptime, as you want as high blocked hits% as possible. you also want block for "tank buster mechanics" like wreck on last boss junkyard
keep in mind, last stand (when you have Bolster talented (aka always)) also works as shield block, in that it gives 100% block
cedar stump
I have about 20k echos, would I be better off buying 2x ineffable truth 1's then spend the rest on vers 3 or all vers 3 on Friday?
I have 0 corruption on at the moment
sweet summit
are you doing keys where you need vers3?
cedar stump
18's and 19s now mostly
strong forum
So you don't need vers
sweet summit
so, are you planing on doing keys where you need vers3 then?
cedar stump
I am, I switched from a blood dk and have been gearign up the prot warrior tryign to get higher keys done
sweet summit
if you say so. then yeah
just please, have items with haste+vers ready
dont put vers3 on anything without vers
cedar stump
I do for everything besides my belt, I just cant get a haste vers belt to drop
sweet summit
and dont ignore haste completely
strong forum
(and don't commit to full vers before 23s at the earliest)
cedar stump
Right now im rocking a socketed Vers mastery belt so its not terrible
25% vers without any corruption
but it sounds like the ineffable truth will give me more until I hit the 23's?
sweet summit
yep
obtuse yoke
i'm starting to transition to 21s & 22s so i'm working on a TD/vers/IT build
cedar stump
Cool, im gonna grab some IT's then, thanks a bunch!
sweet summit
idk how i feel about a scuffed vers/td build. is that value?
strong forum
Vers isn't technically needed there, not alot of tank dmg flying around
I'm playing vers/TD for now, it's aight.
I can slack off way more
So that's nice
cedar stump
yeah im not too worried about dying in keys, Ive been more vers stacking for raid since a few bosses truck me with magic damage in Mythic raid
strong forum
Vers stacking for raid is really only a thing when youre undergeard
cedar stump
and my guild master wont let me switch off my blood dk for raid until im at 30 percent vers
sweet summit
just play better 4head
coordinate cooldowns/externals
obtuse yoke
I have it2 td 3 surg vit & vers 1 right now, it’s okay as i transition
strong forum
sweet summit
tell him i said that
strong forum
^
cedar stump
haha
sweet summit
im not joking
split wyvern
Haha
sweet summit
legit. please send him a screenshot of that message.
cedar stump
He'd honestly get a laugh out of it he's a nice guy
strong forum
Nice, but dumb
sweet summit
nice =! smart
clever sleet
should i buy the haste corruption if my max piece is 465
or do i just wait for more twilight deve
sweet summit
expedient is a decent filler, assuming you have a lot of haste on your gear
id save for some TD 2/3 action
clever sleet
i have like 48% with 5 people around me
cedar stump
thats fair, thanks for your help Nomeratur and Erga!
split wyvern
So was the Dk the old main and you re rolled to Warrior jardinski
sweet summit
expedient doesnt care about the %, expedient only cares about the rating (number)
cedar stump
Yeah I rerolled to the warrior about a month ago
sweet summit
good
clever sleet
1909 is the number
cedar stump
I got sick of the lack of DK armor
split wyvern
Well that’s the DKs thing is to heal the damage
clever sleet
game gives me crit and mastery what can i say
sweet summit
strong forum
Dks also tend to get absolutely slapped by physical dmg, but in mythic raid nothing does dmg so that's fine
cedar stump
DK's are fun, I really love having death grip, but I love the fact that I can pull a lot bigger on my warrior in keys
strong forum
Any RL that tells your 475+ geared character to stack vers for raiding is dumb.
sweet summit
DKs gets slapped by everything, but heals it back up :p
strong forum
Throwing that out for the lurkers
strong forum
No tank is
sweet summit
thats a fact
split wyvern
Truth
cedar stump
I like DK honestly more than prot for raid, but in keys prot is the bees knees
strong forum
Only around +25 keys is when you start to notice differences between tanks ( assuming equal gear and skill)
mellow patio
Enjoying dk more than prot In raid 
gentle ore
Anyone got a good weakaura for demo scout? Just simple icon that pops up when it not on cd, cant find a good one on wagio
sweet summit
enjoying raid
strong forum
Enjoying dk
split wyvern
I have some healer friends that prefer DKs as a tank, IMO I believe it’s because their priests
arctic python
Guys, is there an addon for zooming further out? i feel as tho a lot of streams etc have their camera further away than me
cedar stump
I agree, but lots of people wont take my DK tank for keys due to some silly bias even though my DK is higher Raider io than my warrior
gentle ore
Couldnt find one, just dumb ones from the ones i tried
sweet summit
"camera max factor" i think @arctic python
arctic python
ty
sweet summit
you could make your own WA, its not that hard when you have the "from template" setting
strong forum
When in reality every single spec can easily perform until 22s and higher
split wyvern
Most are not in the Meta pool especially pugs. I will always take a badass player behind the toon instead of fotm
sweet summit
its very straight forward. give it a try
gentle ore
ill give it a shot i guess
strong forum
Getting into WA is fun, if you like to make things pretty, and you won't have to ask around. Makes you feel more accomplished
sweet summit
zoom 30% or youre dumdum
sweet summit
i found a dumdum
strong forum
sweet summit
sharp rover
ilvl > all for shields, even when vers stacking, correct?
sweet summit
yes.
strong forum
Absolutely
sharp rover
obtuse yoke
my haste without food buff is only 1909 as well
sharp rover
Finally got a 475 shield
sweet summit
poogies
mellow patio
Good work lad
obtuse yoke
grats @sharp rover
ruby locust
Hey guys. Just got here. I’m gunna read up on all the guides when I get back home. The overwhelming amount of information in wow rn is crazy
sweet summit
hello 👋
loud shoal
what it do
sweet summit
if you have any questions after reading the guide/pins, feel free to ask them here
yeah, what did you do
ruby locust
Cool. Everything I’ve looked at seems like it’s a sliding scale for what’s best for prot
sweet summit
there are a lot of factors that play into whats "better"
ruby locust
Where as you progress through content some things might be better now vs buying something then for your bis
Errr said that. Buying something now might be better than buying a corruption for your bis later
Said that wrong *
wraith hemlock
yo... So if you guys had to chose between these 2 wrists... which one would u guys rather equip?
sweet summit
the ones with stats
radiant path
Whats the best way for prot warriors to deal with bursting?
wraith hemlock
okay, figures... the 475 seemed pretty shitty but had nothing better to wear
sweet summit
pray the healer heals
wraith hemlock
dont kill a lot of shit together?
sweet summit
spell reflect for DR
sharp rover
Play with players that know how to kite
Bring a fury warrior / frost mage / vengeance dh / hunter
obtuse yoke
about to do a siege, im scared
sweet summit
dont die, you got this
wraith hemlock
you'll do fine mate
ruby locust
I haven’t ever tanked before lmao
The thought of doing bad makes me not even wanna try
obtuse yoke
@ruby locust it's easier than you'd think
icy harness
just dont be bad 4Head
sweet summit
you gotta learn somehow
radiant path
Are a lot of people playing CnS major this week for the snare?
sweet summit
hopefully not
sweet summit
its not as good as you want it to be
radiant path
I guess I can always intervene to a ranged when my necrotic gets too high
loud shoal
I run it all the time cuz that's what I run
wraith hemlock
with bursting and necro it is more important who your dps are rather than the healer...
sweet summit
not really xife, just ask as long as its not too off topic or against ToS
wraith hemlock
if you die to necrotic it might be your fault for not kiting... if you die to bursting then ur dps probs don't know how to not kill teh whole group
ruby locust
Ok. I didn’t know where to find a tierlist or what’s good currently for all roles
So I can find what’s ideal
sweet summit
tier lists are a joke tbh
ruby locust
Ye, just to have a general idea
sweet summit
you play what you want to play. and if you're at a point where it matters, you dont have to ask
ruby locust
I’m always warrior I just meant like for pugging
If x is vastly superior to y for a healer ya know?
sweet summit
bring the player, not the class
split wyvern
100%
strong forum
bring the player, not the class
strong forum
same rule
sweet summit
well you have raider.io score. so thats something to go after
other than that you can just take a wild guess
but point still stands
ruby locust
Ye true forgot about that
strong forum
whoever looks most attractive
sweet summit
you do 😳
loud shoal
man I wish people took the player not the class
strong forum
theres tons of boosted people on "meta" classes that just suck
loud shoal
sad times
cedar stump
whoever has the best slutmog? 👍
ruby locust
Ima be playin with my friends most of the time anyway hopefully
wraith hemlock
ask them what kind of chilaquiles they like, red or green. and you chose the ones that likes 'em just asyou do
split wyvern
Or boosted players that get fed gear but don’t know how to play the class or paid for achievements
still pagoda
^
distant crystal
i'm not gonna stand for all these personal attacks >:|
strong forum
😉
sweet summit
boosted players everywhere, what else is new
cedar stump
Ok important question, as a warrior how often should I shower? And do I really need to clean blood off my armor?
ruby locust
Ok thanks for the quick questions appreciate it guys 😄
sweet summit
once every day is nice
distant crystal
warriors shower once a week just like the rest of us
split wyvern
You could cake it on and become the Warlord of Blood from Diablo 1
sweet summit
and no, dont clean your armor
distant crystal
taco bell and it's not even close
sweet summit
taco bell ofc
ruby locust
Hell ye
still pagoda
There is no Taco Bell in Russia
ruby locust
sorry comrade
wraith hemlock
as a Mexican I've to chose mc donald's for taco bell is a disgrace and an insult to my people
sweet summit
unlucky mate
still pagoda
so i choose Burger King over McDonald's at any given moment
cedar stump
sounds like you shoulden't live in Russia then
strong forum
theres no tacobell in EU at all i think
still pagoda
^
wraith hemlock
lucky people!
sweet summit
haha imagine being EU lol
cedar stump
Anyway gotta head back to work, thanks for the advice Nomeratur and Erga
main vault
Hmmm you know I never noticed any
still pagoda
haha imagine being EU lol
@sweet summit
You are EU yourself bro
main vault
But you have Doners
still pagoda
sweet summit
wraith hemlock
Well being honest, taco bell aint that bad. as long as you don't order their tacos lmao
main vault
Fucks your stomach up worse than Taco Bell
main vault
Yes
strong forum
after my bike ride
main vault
I miss them so much
strong forum
now my back is sunburnt
sweet summit
whats a doner
main vault
Greasy lamb meat in bread
sweet summit
sounds epic
strong forum
its a burger, but bigger and better
split wyvern
Ironclad stomach, I prefer to chef it up at home
strong forum
and not at all like a burger
ruby locust
Taco Bell weeds out the genetically inferior
sweet summit
oh so like farse
distant crystal
it's basically just gyro
sweet summit
i see
ruby locust
For strong warrior bloodline
split wyvern
Or alters genetics lol
main vault
ruby locust
Lmao
main vault
strong forum
Gyros, in bread + tons of salad
distant crystal
shawarma, gyro, doner
ruby locust
Damn looks good
sweet summit
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
distant crystal
chicken shawarma is da bes
sweet summit
fuck now i want kebab
main vault
it is but the first i found
obtuse yoke
aaaaand someone left the siege
ruby locust
Ez clap
obtuse yoke
bursting with disc priest is hard
distant crystal
we had a nice lil 22 siege fiesta last night
split wyvern
Tzatziki sauce
strong forum
thats the average döner
distant crystal
sweet summit
chili garlic sauce on kebab is GOLD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
ruby locust
Is this week affixes harder or easier than last week
sweet summit
im moist
obtuse yoke
way harder xife
distant crystal
this might be the worst week
strong forum
bolstering in pugging is prolly a nightmare
ruby locust
Shit
sweet summit
easier, cos its not tyrannical xd
strong forum
last week was prolly the easiest pug week
distant crystal
oh are we talking european "this week"
sweet summit
what was last week?
ruby locust
Shit
strong forum
Teeming Volc Tyr
distant crystal
cause this week is tyr necrotic bursting
sweet summit
oh shit NA lulw
wraith hemlock
omfg...
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/667046378991648778/732451228772204614/unknown.png
@distant crystal wtf is this shit
strong forum
your average siege
distant crystal
my pepega plater settings
strong forum
where you abuse spotters
modern brook
yeah looks right to me
distant crystal
it's not bad when things have max like 5-6 bolster stacks
sweet summit
the spotters like it, dont worry
strong forum
2.55bil HP
sweet summit
they are into that
distant crystal
but it's pretty hilarious when it's a 2.55b hp spotter
strong forum
not this wimp of a "raidboss"
still pagoda
split wyvern
SSJ5 Goku was the real hero of BFA and defeated Nzoth
modern brook
bro that spotter can bombard my target any day tbh
still pagoda
now this is the REAL RAID BOSS
sweet summit
i slap his ass back
strong forum
what if
sweet summit
😉
distant crystal
the spotter made for an interesting elitismhelper breakdown
strong forum
in 20min
yo
whenever you play Prot Pally
go die to the spotter
your healing will look funny 🙂
distant crystal
still pagoda
whenever you play Prot Pally
@strong forum
How do you know what i'm doing rn?
split wyvern
I wonder if you can bolster an enemy and a dk can control it if it’s undead and keeps the bolster stacks
strong forum
ya but you aint facing a 2.5bil HP spotter yet
to do 700mil healing
in 1 second 🙂
distant crystal
what i was wondering yesterday is
if you bolster the waveshaper
does that make her shield bigger?
sweet summit
bolstered enemies cant be MCed
distant crystal
and if so, mega bolster waveshaper, let her cast shield, spellsteal, leeroy into boss
sweet summit
:(
split wyvern
Bum bum bum no fun time
main vault
now im hungry, man
sweet summit
same
strong forum
have the shield run out, and 1shot the boss
obtuse yoke
now im in a 20 td
main vault
pizza doner was bis
strong forum
5head
obtuse yoke
any last minute TD tips for ya boi
sweet summit
wanna grab lunch 😳
modern brook
@distant crystal I'm not a nerd so i could be wrong here but im ps ure that wont work
distant crystal
@obtuse yoke EU or NA?
obtuse yoke
NA
modern brook
the damage of the shield when it expires will be amp'd by bolster, not the shield itself
distant crystal
get all the buffs
obtuse yoke
so it's burst necrotic tyran
modern brook
but since its on a mage now it wont get the buff because dynamic
distant crystal
and run safeguard
modern brook
:^(
distant crystal
safeguard dps that are near death on last boss explosions
obtuse yoke
what about mobs outside?
modern brook
kill them
modern brook
if ur an aboslute CHILD u can do 2 crocs solo before omega pulling with crabs
sweet summit
nop
modern brook
not gunna lie still dont get the point of cns major
sweet summit
a lot of vers
modern brook
yeah
sweet summit
can some some mechanics with it
modern brook
ok fine
radiant path
That snare can help if used right
modern brook
SMH its not being big and bronze
distant crystal
yeah it's actually fairly useful for necrotic
with clap range you can do a whole avatar without getting meleed
if you keep em max clap range
sweet summit
you're losing a lot of damage yourself by not being in melee
deep steppe
This is bliss
sweet summit
pog
champ
distant crystal
yeah you only really do it long enough for necrotic reset typically
sweet summit
thats fair
dusk axle
anyone have a sec to jump in voice so for some gear advice
sweet summit
my mom says i cant talk to strangers, sorry :(
sweet summit
monkaW
strong forum
😳
sweet summit
notlikethis
strong forum
TFB is fine tho
like, you can easily deal with it
you can Reflect it, Stun it, Fear it
honest pine
how much haste should i be aiming with full vers 3 and 2 IT corruption ?
strong forum
and here i thought you wanted to insult me
sweet summit
As much as possible astar
dusk axle
but at what point do i replace that 400 TD with ilvl?
dusk axle
oof
sweet summit
I would not stack vers before 22/23 keys tho @honest pine
strong forum
Astar, ABSOLUTE MINIMUM of 1.8k, and what erga said
honest pine
yeah im pushing 22s 23s
its just
i droped haste for a good vers ring
and im at 18 % base hsate
sweet summit
Oof
sweet summit
Why would you shoot yourself in the leg to gain a robotic arm
strong forum
this
honest pine
i want to die i already corrupted 😄
sweet summit
Uhoh
civic rover
how are you at 18% base haste
sweet summit
You could salvage this with haste gems/ring enchants maybe
strong forum
by prioritising vers over haste for some reason
in keys where you dont need 60% vers
main vault
Guys
strong forum
when in fact you only need 0% vers
main vault
Who else is excited for SL
distant crystal
you can't get 0 vers vision gives like 200
sweet summit
I am nexii. SL when
honest pine
i got full vers mastery pieces i think haha
strong forum
damn got me
honest pine
i didnt think about this fuck
civic rover
i mean maybe it's because all my sockets and ring enchants are haste but without food or any into the fray stats I have like 36% haste
main vault
When dozens of people will be in here everty reset posting 6 pics standing at the chest making people help choose
main vault
I wish I could refund SL tbh
sweet summit
You regret starting again or
main vault
The more systems they show the worse it looks
strong forum
ya but wod didnt have m+
distant crystal
i liked WoD and BFA
sweet summit
WoD was good
Just not enough good
distant crystal
🙂
civic rover
WoD mightve not had much to do but the dungeons and raids were pretty sick
distant crystal
challenge modes Pog
main shoal
whats better? Im mostly doing 15s
strong forum
equip the haste
imo
wrists offer the lowest amount of stats
so dropping ilvl for bis stats is ok imo
well, better stats for 15s
main shoal
ok thanks
sweet summit
Np
dusk axle
xD figures thats my only r2 as well
dusk axle
so do the corruptions rotate at MOTHER?
strong forum
buy 1 or 2 IT, have them in bags until you get a good piece to put them on
i still have TD3 lying around in bag from the very first rotation
that ill prolly never use
main shoal
for 15s i shouldnt be worried for versa right?
strong forum
not at all
dusk axle
is there an efficient echoes farm that isnt weeklys?
strong forum
i ran with 3% vers until 22s
main shoal
And you had no problem?
strong forum
and only swapped cuz my healer is an rsham
distant crystal
double dps 2s @dusk axle
strong forum
never had any issues
distant crystal
or spamming keys that you can 2-3 chest
main shoal
Mmm maybe i need to fix something since sometimes i get wrecked
strong forum
100%
main shoal
i dont get enough rage sometimes
strong forum
in 15s you should fall asleep
strong forum
of how nothing even gets you below 95%