But looking back it just makes me sad that with the resources available to the players that some people end up struggling to even achieve AOTC
#protection
warm sleet
I started raiding last month for the formless void and did 3/12 mythic one night but then the mythic raid team fell apart as they’ve been wiping in hivmeind for like 4 weeks at that point. But it made me want to do more mythic raiding as it was really fun
chilly brook
Although I'm probably going to have to stop with these new raid times 
obtuse yoke
Hivemind is a tough boss
chilly brook
Hivemind is a fight that people overcomplicate tbh
In my experience
But it's a fun boss
Big numbers
obtuse yoke
It’s a simple fight but tough for people who prog on it
chilly brook
But I'm also hyper focused on my role tbh like don't feed me excess information that's irrelevant to my role
Or else I'm big dumb and zone out
warm sleet
They needed some organization. Uh healing rotations, and practice avoiding Rollie’s as people were always getting hit by them and they weren’t talking about it
chilly brook
Yea that's a big killer
If there's no direction or communication
On a side note, did you find a new home for raiding?
warm sleet
Not yet. I’m looking at making a ranged dps for shadowlands as tanking spots are typically taken and just tank m+
chilly brook
Yea finding a tank spot is not the easiest thing in the world
And as soon as theres one available it gets sniped
warm sleet
For the glory
orchid frigate
upper violet
I hate rdps classes cuz most of them are locked into dps
Like mage lock hunter
Sp is meh boomy is meh
still pagoda
I know all are trialing currently for SL
@novel ruin
Indeed we all do 
sharp rover
What's the meta for dumb prot warriors that want to pad on single target raid bosses?
It used to be Reckless Flurry + BFI, but none of these logs are running it
ionic fern
That's the meta.
Get good rng procs and profit.
Parsing this tier is literally pointless and comes down to rng corruption.
sharp rover
So I don't have to bother with a second "DPS" set?
ionic fern
I mean,you can if you want to but in general parses currently come down to your kill timers and corruption luck.
still pagoda
sharp rover
Do I even bother running Devastator then?
still pagoda
i don't on prog right now
sweet summit
If you prefer deva over bv, sure
solar crown
suggestion on WA for a new warrior? to get the basic rotations/stuff down
still pagoda
Afenar's or Khakhan's
solar crown
🥰
wild sandal
is it worth running TD r 4 + 2x expident r3 , instead of r6 TD , to increase proc rate
sweet summit
Expedient also gives "defensive values"
But if youre just for damage, sim it
Doubt expedient will win
left hatch
helping hte proc rate also is unrelaible
because its true rng, and not averaged out like rppm of most other things like trinkets
sweet summit
Wdym td is also rppm
left hatch
it is, but its weird
the procs arn't averaged out like basically every other proc in the game
sweet summit
1 rppm+haste with a 4 sec icd
left hatch
IS works the same way
still pagoda
just remember that hasted proc calculation goes as
X*(1+r/100) where X is original RPPM of the proc and r is % of haste you have at the moment
hallow phoenix
I "often" see 3-4 procs of TD very close together but have never ever seen a trinket proc 3 times in a row
left hatch
theres a longer writeup somewhere of it but yah
sweet summit
Oh i see
still pagoda
^
still pagoda
and also bear in mind that expedients won't necessarily add much to the proc rate
hallow phoenix
I assume there is good luck protection too for most things
wild sandal
so better to keep the TD ranks
left hatch
it won't boost your TD damage, but it gives you much higher uptime of avatar... whichll buff the other 70some% of your damage
and is a massive survivability and utility boost
of those 2 choices yeh
wild sandal
i dont see myself needing the IT in +15s, i dont really run higher keys
left hatch
thats fair but like i said
higher ava uptime = a boost to the other damage sources
and more SR's
hallow phoenix
I run TD5 and IT1 in lower keys
wild sandal
good point
left hatch
which'll be more dps than a TD on like... rixxa or coven
hallow phoenix
Keeps me under 40 too
wild sandal
gona give it a try
hallow phoenix
Real men run deadly momentum 12 with ravager and parry the world
sweet summit
Fact
sweet summit
Its a sign from the parry gods
hallow phoenix
Makes me want to fire up dark souls and parry every mob and spell in the game
Man that game did parries right
normal garnet
what essences are you guys running for skittish and bolster for next week
sweet summit
Same as every other week
left hatch
^
Lucid/VoP/CnS major, fit in the other 2 as minors with Str/Aegis/Sphere
if you think DS parries is satisfying Tusks, you need to try Sekiro
vast harbor
did we get nerf?
stiff oracle
?
vast harbor
just checking
ionic fern
👍
sweet summit
Delete havoc dh
onyx vessel
ionic fern
Delete corruption.
sweet summit
Corruption owns
autumn pendant
@ionic fern your slumber will soon end
onyx vessel
Only 6 more months
sweet summit
Shhh he is sleeping
sweet summit
BFA is so dead i started doing archeology
onyx vessel
Lol
sweet summit
Yeah. Its that bad
sweet summit
Raz going horde confimed pogchamp
still pagoda
Delete havoc dh and corruption and make MW great again
Guild Im in finally started caring about clearing raids 😄
@autumn pendant @sweet summit
I'm yet to get to N'zoth
though our first pulls on cara were really good this sunday
sweet summit
Soon ™️
I believe
autumn pendant
Idd
Ilgy and cara might fall soon enough
and then just hammering zoth
till i get my 485 weapon
and pipe with sims
gotta pad those sims numbers
sweet summit
Cant pad in game so we pad in sims
autumn pendant
maybe you cant
sweet summit
Oh
autumn pendant
😛
still pagoda
Cant pad in game so we pad in sims [2]
weary fog
Is Force Navigation the enchant of choice until you start stacking Versatile corruptions? Or is Versatile Navigation better regardless? (with a focus on keys)
still pagoda
force multiplier is the best until the time you stack vers
and by stacking i mean stacking
which is not a thing until +25 keys
you would throw around semi-vers stuff in +22-24 range
left hatch
its a thing :p just not the optimal thing
sweet summit
Let me play my vers stack in a +12 
still pagoda
ik, cba switching
sweet summit
Sea bee ay
still pagoda
anyway the truly scuffed shit was me healing that one
sweet summit
It went fine until you rolled off the platform or whatever 😂
still pagoda
yuh
😂
exactly
too accustomed to having heroic leap on that button
#givewarriorahealingspec
still pagoda
still pagoda
sweet summit
Dragon roar???
left hatch
idunnno man.... the base increase to revenge damage + 50% increase on free ones from Best Served cold.... hitting twice in any cleave/aoe
makes Best Served cold seem REALLLLLLLY nice
sweet summit
:(
sweet summit
Pog
strong forum
You see. Even then BSC only barely competes with DR
And thats ignoring the fact that DR crits for 3x as much :p
sweet summit
A what
upper violet
leg glove from legion
still pagoda
it was basically a static SS damage increase starting with introduction of devastator
sweet summit
O cool
strong forum
Increased SS dmg by 20% after you used Devastate
upper violet
big single target damage
strong forum
Ya but boring
Given that you played devastator, it could literally be just "SS does 20% more dmg"
orchid frigate
What is this dps? Hunters doing 150k overall ML :0
sweet summit
Hunters are stupid op
still pagoda
kill them
K I L L M A I M B U R N
you can do it a bit differently
link any prog logs of any warr from here
sick sentinel
This one claims to have just done 4/12M but I don't raid so
orchid frigate
i also want to stack vers
strong forum
SL will save us all for a while
All the fotm babies leavin
No stupid corruptions
Bless
orchid frigate
but what if warriors are fotm in SL?
strong forum
:worry:
sick sentinel
As long as assmonmald is king warrior will be popular
orchid frigate
hehe
sweet summit
strong forum
Warri popularity has nothing to do with person X
It's one of the base fantasy roles. It'll always have a specific fanbase
strong forum
Very unpopular
sick sentinel
Prots all I ever played in bfa really I tried rogue and Hunter and mage little bit priest but kept getting canned on bringing em
So fuck it warrior life
orchid frigate
ive played warrior almost exclusivly my whole wow carrier. dabbled a bit with druid and monk as mains for a shorter while but always came back 👏
sick sentinel
Just, if these guys keep talking p war versa stack, especially if they just doing 15s won't bother trying to explain just find another
I dunno maybe it's versa for raiding? Maybe that's what they meant?
orchid frigate
mby
main vault
It’s not Vers even for raiding
You are talking to shitters, so they are just parroting what they see top people use
strong forum
^
steep bone
I mean my guild leader whos prot warrior is stacking haste amps claiming its best because more thunder claps more damage and more survi
And sometimes hes playing arms as off spec so its good to have but who is focusing on bis gear for os that ure not even playing
sick sentinel
Wonderful...
steep bone
@sweet summit waves wanna coem for sob?
sweet summit
I aint home yet
steep bone
okey
still pagoda
it's the +21 one, right?
main vault
Just cause someone is a GM doesn’t mean they know what they are talking about
still pagoda
won't bother you then since i don't have proper DPS spec on my warrior, neither i think healing any keys beyond +19 is good without a fang
main vault
It just means they paid 3 people to sign a charter
still pagoda
exactly
still pagoda
Kazzak is a good meme server
everyone thinks our guild is Greek
yet we just have few people with Greek nicknames
and only one IRL Greek
who's also a total altoholic
mental scarab
Just moved to kazzak 🤩
still pagoda
welcome in
steep bone
sweet summit
Oof
slender nova
Strugggling to find any TD pieces in the content I’m doing - so having to save up echoes to try and get a TD rank 1, 2 or 3 from vendor
Arena seems to be the fastest but I hate switching specs
orchid frigate
m+ is pretty good for echoes farming
slender nova
Yeah I’ve only just made my warrior a couple weeks ago so I’ll try doing that.
steep bone
pvp is good if you're winning tho
steep bone
go arms
analog swift
did 23 weekly no leaver last night, turned into a 24 JY at 2 am but that's a must complete
steep bone
Ooh man, that's bless key, good luck 😄
slender nova
I seem to be doing the same dps on my prot warrior at 462 as my monk at 470
Monk has rank 4 TD, and warrior has 0 🥴
exotic spoke
That’s a rip theseus
slender nova
Warrior stronk
wild turret
Monk dps and Hp pool is kinda low so that does not surprise me
slender nova
Monk is super fun to play, only reason I chose it over my warrior till now.
Warrior is growing on me though
distant crystal
i mean haste amps on a prot warrior for mythic raiding is gonna be fine
and it's bis for arms
can't even really be mad, he could wear full masterful and do fine in raid
steep bone
Thing is they're raiding only heroic
steep bone
Did they changed something on first boss in FH? I tried going to safe spot at fence that's around here but i turned out that i reset boss
distant crystal
important part is that the boss doesn't leave the little ring
i got knocked out by the birb but managed to charge back in before i reset the boss
worldly sigil
Tank stands in the nest that is rocc right?
sweet summit
Yes
worldly sigil
Had a 4500 hunter teach me that fight and he had me stand in the nest and I never got the poops or the dive on me and I only took the powder shots
still pagoda
I guess you did brick +21SoB
sweet summit
With the boss at 1700
still pagoda
sweet summit
The poop is on the healer/ranged dps
worldly sigil
Ya that nest
Can someone clarify why the bird doesn’t dive the tank or poop there?
sweet summit
He can poop there
If ranged/healer fuck up baiting
He cant dive there because idk he just cant
worldly sigil
How does the baiting work? Poops on farthest from bird?
worldly sigil
I see and then bird never dives that way so the tank is generally not in range of the bird to get pooped on
If the bird gets close the ranged move closer to the bird?
steep bone
@still pagoda nah i didn't just puggingit
sweet summit
Bird should do poop->poop->dive->repeat but sometimes gets fucked and only poops once or even three times between dives
steep bone
still have that sob ❤️
worldly sigil
I see
sweet summit
That fight is 100% on ranged to bait if you tank it there
jolly thistle
can't even really be mad, he could wear full masterful and do fine in raid
@distant crystal yeah I forgot to switch gear sets on the last ra-den kill and ran full versa amps. It literally doesn’t matter at this point of gear level. You could run all leech meme set and still be fine if your dps aren’t completely pepega
distant crystal
yeah i mean people were full clearing that raid with what like, 50 resist?
sick sentinel
whats the best affixes to do +15 Tol Dagor on, or did i miss it last week?
i feel like tyranical could have been a huge problem
sick sentinel
TD is the only one i am really concerned about, KR a bit
jolly thistle
Any fortified without quaking or sanguine I’d say. Last week wasn’t too bad as well
radiant path
This week won't be AS easy. But if you don't have people that have stuns, binding shots, freezes, etc... Bolstering could become an issue.
steep bone
u can up to KJ
radiant path
Because humans like to run away
sick sentinel
oh crap, fort bolstering this week?
steep bone
if u have enough dps to pump avatar
sick sentinel
well, thats a one 15 key and log for me
slender nova
Hmm, thanks Vivv
sick sentinel
skittish is nothing, bolstering is yuck though
slender nova
Really want the mythic set - group finding for it is tough
radiant path
Yeah, skittish shouldn't be bad if you can communicate with your dps. As long as they give you two thunder claps before attacking, you should be able to keep the agro
Just don't let a fire mage do fire mage things and pull because they have procs haha
chilly brook
@slender nova yes KJ is actually kinda omegalul still
People actually have to do things
jolly thistle
You don’t need KJ for the full transmog set tho
steep bone
almost depleting FH 
steep bone
ofc when im doing normal key my td doesnt proc, but when i do troll key i do 75k st on bosses
chilly brook
Lol
Could be worse you could be a DH tank on skittish week and your TD doesnt proc until everything dies
steep bone
like look
sweet summit
Hps meter shows names 👀
steep bone
and then also me in 19
still pagoda
Kek
steep bone
Hps meter shows names 👀
@sweet summit kekw i mean it's not fatshaming anyone
steep bone
I think my best overall was closing to 100k+ but on rly low key so i just did too big pulls with like 20% over%
was fun tho ❤️
chilly brook
"Go make your own raid team I guarantee you won't like it and you'll hate having to be responsible for it"
Said to me someone who has done that before and also ran two college esports teams
😂
still pagoda
😫
sweet summit
😂
chilly brook
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
steep bone
@sweet summit im gonna pug janina and then ill try assembling teem if ure still up for that sob
chilly brook
Its actually pretty competitive
sweet summit
Kanye 2020
chilly brook
Some of the guys in our league were competing in semi pro for the game
still pagoda
Well, i think i'm going to pug few 18's as a healer once the light is back
sweet summit
Deal
still pagoda
Corruptions are ehhhh design. Just delete them
It's claw iirc
But fang kinda stuck in my mind for some reason
obtuse yoke
got this from vendor... bloodrite or bloodsport?
still pagoda
If it is ilvl upgrade, use it with BfI/DC+BR
Lvl is not really for hp
But for armor
And str
obtuse yoke
Bfl?
warm plinth
Who here does the Azerokk tank fixate trick? Want to pick your brain for a minute
chilly brook
Brace for impact @obtuse yoke
still pagoda
@sweet summit seriously, i need a lot of crit and vers on top of haste i already have to make MW not so mana draining
warm plinth
Also, pog:
dusk loom
Say some people hating expedient earlier for Prot. Any particular reason? Using a Expedient 3 as a filler and not a super big fan of TD RNG
saw*
warm plinth
It's fine as a filler. It's just not worth stacking.
When you want damage, TD is just miles ahead, and when you are doing high enough keys that require a more survival-oriented focus, vers stacking is better
dusk loom
well I am at 58% haste with ITF and 38% without would assume I am still close to a 11 second shield block without it
sounds good
chilly brook
Well
Let me tell you
You can have expedient stacked
But its not going to make the impact TD does
Like Ghash said
warm plinth
Holy shit, I got ashvane chest from gambling too. War is on fire this week
dusk loom
for sure
chilly brook
95% of the time you just want damage
warm plinth
3x BoM, 1x DC, 2x MS now
dusk loom
at this point I am just getting into prot and am have been able to complete a 16 on time
sacred bear
How reasonable is it these days to get 3 bombs vs 4 bombs in M nzoth secret phase
dusk loom
survivability is semi an issue if i pull pretty big (8-12 ish)
but I know I am not playing perfect
still pagoda
Then the problem is in the way you play
chilly brook
In a 16 it shouldn't be an issue unless you're pulling mobs that have mechanics that aren't being dealt with
still pagoda
Not the gear
dusk loom
probably the issue
still pagoda
But seriously, pull big
dusk loom
pugging and I know sometimes I can get blown up by some missed kicks
chilly brook
And going for more survival wont help you if kicks are missed tbh
dusk loom
yeah it is not the gear I am 476 - 38% haste b4 ITF and 22% vers. Ashvane, Pauldrons of Writhing, and Helm of Phantasmic
so have the right traits
chilly brook
I've just gotten in the habit as a tank when pugging of holding my kick
And using it if no one else does
still pagoda
Why so much vers in these keys
dusk loom
it is on me to ensure I am getting my block uptime and play mechanics proper as new to prot
still pagoda
Drop most of it if you can
dusk loom
just the gear I have gotten tbh
still pagoda
Without losing ilvl
chilly brook
And I pretty much always open with sigil of silence because I dont trust people anymore
dusk loom
everything came as verse haste
sweet summit
@steep bone im gonna have to pass
dusk loom
and yeah fair I dont trust people much haha
steep bone
@sweet summit ait
trail shard
Hey all, new prot warrior here working on my alt's essences. Just got rank 1 C&S, is it worth using over any other R3s, or just wait until I get R2/3? Currently using vision perfection major, memory, strength of warden and aegis as minor (all R3)
warm plinth
No, don't use it at R1
trail shard
R2 worth it, or just wait til R3?
still pagoda
R3 is its major upgrade
knotty fiber
tfw you get razdunk's big red button in the cache
literally anything else would've been an upgrade
still pagoda
Button trinket is indeed garbage
chilly brook
@trail shard just find a decent healer for 2s and clap everyone as a DH
trail shard
My other toon/main is a DK.
chilly brook
Get 1600 ez pz
trail shard
Wondering if it'll be easier to do DK or Arms for 2's
chilly brook
Could probably slap in 2s as unholy with a healer
trail shard
Yeah, I'll give it a try. Can't wait to get that R3
chilly brook
Arms slaps but I feel like you're much more reliant on the healer for your win condition
Could just be me
trail shard
I remember arms/rdruid was pretty good for a while, how is it now?
still pagoda
play WLP
Or TSG
Literally low pts stomp
And can go up into higher ratings
If you want of course
jolly thistle
I did both prior to the essence vendor. Arms and unholy with a healer. Wasn’t a problem to get 1600
chilly brook
Idk all I know is I clapped the only resto druid I played against last night because he tried being giga aggro and tried to help burn my healer
sonic saddle
is servent splitter any good?
chilly brook
Theres your cheat sheet for r3 farm
still pagoda
I did both prior to the essence vendor. Arms and unholy with a healer. Wasn’t a problem to get 1600
@jolly thistle
I had speeded my way through to 2k back in Legion Season 7 with WLP
trail shard
Yeah, 3 weeks at 1600+. I am aiming for it
still pagoda
Also. Another friend of mine returned to the game and decided to go horde too. But he's on Ревущий Фьорд-EU(RU)
jolly thistle
current arena meta is very different with all the corruption memes tho
chilly brook
Arena has been busted this whole xpac
sweet summit
Ah yes PeByWNNObOPA i know that server
still pagoda
chilly brook
Now I only have like the entire rest of the language to learn
sweet summit
Is there more to learn than that?
steep bone
i can say suka blyat
still pagoda
Skitra shoulders are better
strong forum
Ye, cara shoulders are quite meh
obtuse yoke
even at 465 vs 475?
sweet summit
Bis for the other two specs 👀
Just pug mythic skitra
Youre a tank, you get accepted anywat
obtuse yoke
i've had horrible mythic pugging experience
civic rover
you can try to pug mythic but check everyone when you get into the group
it's very easy to tell how bad the pug is before even doing 1 pull
sweet summit
Damn twisting nether players i bet
chilly brook
Just clap their cheeks
civic rover
i don't think pugging mythic is worth it tbh, in my experience it's very hard to find a group that can actually down the bosses.
steep bone
with good pug i'd say u can do 4-5
civic rover
idk every pug i see is like a bunch of people who aren't even 12/12H not knowing how to stand still on wrathion
sweet summit
Ive puged first three on dk and bear multiple weeks 🤷
civic rover
but when you find a group of a bunch of 6/12, 8/12, 10/12 mythic dudes it is pretty fun
chilly brook
Good pugs for mythic takes a long time to fill
If you join and they're just inviting anyone it's usually a bad sign
prisma crane
literally only have to beat wrath
since you can cheese skitra
raid can be brain dead on that fight now
prisma crane
what?
sweet summit
Yeah
sweet summit
Yes
prisma crane
profit
sonic saddle
@chilly brook yes I have haste mast wep at 470 and today it dropped with 475
prisma crane
the only thing that can make it annoying is bad transition luck, but usually you can wait long enough where the wall just dies so you dont even have to CC them
chilly brook
Yea so its going to be the play to use servant splitter tbh until you get something at the same ilvl then sim @sonic saddle
prisma crane
@sonic saddle it's best ST weapon
buoyant walrus
should i equip 465 boots with SV rank 3 or 470 boots with VR rank 2?
sweet summit
470
chilly brook
All I know is TD and IT
Kappa
So basically two meh corruptions
That are cleanse bait
buoyant walrus
ok thank you, will it always be ilvl unless its like a TD piece?
or even still ilvl
sweet summit
TD owns too hard
chilly brook
Unless its TD pretty much ilvl
sweet summit
It does not follow the rules of nature
chilly brook
And with the vendor
I'd still do ilvl
Since you can literally just get TD on anything now
Although only buy TD2 or TD3 cuz TD1 is stupidly priced
sweet summit
Can i have one TD with extra spice?
buoyant walrus
i got some 470 gloves with rank 3 TD last week
this week i got these lame ass boots lol
buoyant walrus
yeah
chilly brook
Brother
stiff inlet
5 mask? Or did you not get a 15 lol
chilly brook
steep bone
So i just had healer forcing his weird route ninjapulling stuff and finally leaving as he didn't agree that we're doing pylon in WM, ayyy lmao
chilly brook
Was he a MW?
chilly brook
RIP
steep bone
avoid him xD
stiff drum
Would you drop 5 ilvl to get BoM on your azerite pieces?
chilly brook
I see a lot of MWs that run crane and be like "no we have to pull big here" or "go faster" etc.
steep bone
I rly haven't had use of pylon in the middle as we gone right side first so i just wanted to kill it and go clear trash to witches kek
chilly brook
And they're usually trash tbh
stiff inlet
BoM is worth 15 ilvls generally
steep bone
and he didn't understood fact that we've another pylon to skip to 4th boss lmao
mellow patio
BoM is absolutely not worth 15 ilvls
steep bone
it was DC that worth 15ilvls
mellow patio
^
chilly brook
@stiff inlet no trait is worth dropping ilvl except for BoM and only slightly tbh
I suppose I shouldn't say that entirely
sweet summit
@stiff drum yes if youre talking nzoth head over vedor without bom
stiff drum
yea, thats my question. same for shoulders
chilly brook
Cuz 480 mecha shoulders exist and they're technically better than the mythic cara shoulders
stiff inlet
Ahh DC got them confused thanks
sweet summit
Id take it
mellow patio
Your first DC is worth dropping ilvl for. I might drop 5 ilvl if it meant a better overall azerite piece but I wouldn’t drop 15
stiff drum
i have vendor shoulders + head with Iron Fortress + some other shitty traits
vs Cara and Nzoth pieces
475
Mostly for M+ btw if that would make a difference
so i'd say it's worth right?
mellow patio
I’d prob wear the cara and nzoth pieces tbh. The 5 ilvls for decent traits is worth it imo
sweet summit
Agreed
steep bone
Nzoth helmet + Skitra M shoulders if u can clear it with pugs (really easy tho) and vendor chest and you're gucci
stiff drum
ait, cheers guys
mellow patio
Lmao you blocked his name but not the “Message @“
sweet summit
A for effort
wet bloom
question...for M+ below 20 where you dont really need to stack vers....what should I look for in gear....crit/haste or haste/mastery?
chilly brook
I just find how different people address contacting people interesting
sonic saddle
@prisma crane @chilly brook ty
sweet summit
Ilvl>haste>crit
wet bloom
what ilvl would you consider.....5....or 10?
sonic saddle
curious. Double DC or DC + Meticulous or DC + Dagger?
chilly brook
DC MS
sweet summit
Any ilvl upgrade
wet bloom
ok thanks
chilly brook
100% DC and MS
sonic saddle
ty griff
onyx vessel
its more like ilvl>haste>>>crit=vers>mastery
onyx vessel
chilly brook
Biggur is bettur
onyx vessel
475 boe gloves only 350k
chilly brook
I wish
onyx vessel
i aint even tired
sweet summit
chilly brook
I got like an hour break from 10 to 11 though
onyx vessel
but hitting 236 vers and dirt haste
chilly brook
2 hour flask is BiS
still pagoda
I usually get alch on my main and spread other professions across chars
sonic saddle
475 shield is at 600k /cry
still pagoda
Got 475 shield from weekly chest on the last week of May
chilly brook
I got a 465 shield finally on my warrior
onyx vessel
chilly brook
Just took me like 3 months of not playing it as my main
still pagoda
I want the glad stance to be back
@sonic saddle
Your tanks probably don't
chilly brook
I would love glad stance again
civic rover
i still have the 460 ilgy shield lol
still pagoda
Just as i would
onyx vessel
still pagoda
Though it kinda diverts shield drop from tanks to that one DPS
onyx vessel
time to waste 350k
still pagoda
👀
onyx vessel
chilly brook
Well
onyx vessel
100000000000000% ill get some gloves to drop during raid
chilly brook
Its been 20 minutes
onyx vessel
chilly brook
This dude still hasn't shot his shot
still pagoda
This dude still hasn't shot his shot
@chilly brook
Maybe he have gone away for tea or something?
You know...
Just wait and it'll be fine
onyx vessel
gonna yolo this leg craft of sadness
chilly brook
@still pagoda oh I'm not in a rush I'm just laughing he said it's like an immediate slot so I assume hes trying to fill for tonight
I liked the guild I got into contact last night just waiting for a definitive answer from them
halcyon coyote
do i want to cleanse surging vitality 3?
is it efficient compared to vers3 and max vers stat items?
chilly brook
Then I would probably cleanse and just not even bother running vers corruptions at that key level
raven knoll
guys quick help pls on skitra hc how do i know as a tank whats the real one to focus?
how can i call it
strong forum
1 of the tanks puts down worldmarker
Then the other one calls the one out that has a world marker on it
Tanks are always in opposite phases
chilly brook
Yes
strong forum
Ya if you don't put the markers down, but you can see a marker on a boss you can see
distant crystal
anyone can call it really
strong forum
Ye
distant crystal
if you see 3 markers in front of nothing and 1 in front of a psychus
pitter patter
strong forum
^
prime rivet
so i got a 475 fusion hacker with vers 2. is this thing useable for 22+ keys?
junior pebble
How are 5 masks as prot? I've always switched to fury
prime rivet
i had a 470 carapace weapon with IT 1 before
still pagoda
so i got a 475 fusion hacker with vers 2. is this thing useable for 22+ keys?
@prime rivet
Yes, indeed you are lucky
Fusion hacker is one of the best weapons for ST and up to 4 targets
prime rivet
that's great, but in keys, we're pulling like 6+ packs
still pagoda
Amount of stats on weapons is abysmal anyway
Ilvl is the king on both weapon and shield
warm plinth
I did 5 mask on prot my first try in both zones with TD2 and like 460-465 ilevel
Feels pretty easy to me personally
radiant path
This is why I dont do crafting other than alchemy
@chilly brook
Alchemy with Engineering is BIS 🙂
I did 5 mask on prot my first try in both zones with TD2 and like 460-465 ilevel
@warm plinth what essences do you run?
chilly brook
@prime rivet your main concern on a weapon is weapon dps which is dictated by ilvl
warm plinth
CoF major, vision/c&s/lucid minor
radiant path
Cool cool. Thanks! I did a 5 mask last week with 18% TD and it felt terrible... No damage 😦
Still finished it, but it was so slow
still pagoda
@chilly brook
Alchemy with Engineering is BIS 🙂
@radiant path
I'm thinking of alchemy and enchanting on main, 2 gathering profs on main alt and inscription & blacksmithing on 3rd toon for SL
And the plan is to level up warr and pala first
Then catch up on monk/DK
steep bone
ok so its no longer 21 sob
steep bone
apparently it was
still pagoda
For pugs?
steep bone
on 2nd try SOMEHOW rogue managed to pull packs that we skipped with pillar(?)
steep bone
dunno how ppl are boosting themselves to that level
it's not even fun to troll higher keys
radiant path
It's honestly impressive that people can get to that level and not understand dungeon mechanics 😂
steep bone
tyrranical is literally too heavy on braincells
still pagoda
They're just boosted monkeys
Boosted. That's it
You drop gold cap and 3.2k is yours
radiant path
Umm... That would cost SO much gold...
radiant path
I've sold +15 keys for 200k(50k each person).
still pagoda
+20 is one million gold on gally
radiant path
But maybe thats because I'm on low pop server
steep bone
gally is having high prices tho
still pagoda
So you drop one gold cap and another 2mil on top
radiant path
NA
steep bone
ohh
still pagoda
EU
steep bone
200k on NA is alot of gold tho
lol
2nd attempt on sob, this time got some 4man premade
radiant path
I've never looked to sell runs, just people saying "Looking for +15 run 200k" haha
And I'm always like "Yup! That'll be great"
steep bone
but 50k per booster is nice tho
radiant path
Yup
still pagoda
gally is having high prices tho
@steep bone
They became a boosting monopolist at that point
Which is a totally normal thing
radiant path
I'm also on a low pop server which will drive up the price. Especially because everything costs so freakin much...
still pagoda
And a totally predictable one. You will always get monopolist rising as industry grows
radiant path
I forgot what it was, but one of my buddies thats on Tich can buy something for 8 gold that costs 25 gold on my sever
I want to say it was zin'anthid
1 zin costs 25g for me
I think it might be time to move
still pagoda
I could sell Zin'anthid for 40g/piece back on Gordunni-EU(RU)
Here it is only 10g
Kazzak
And Gordunni is not a low pop realm
radiant path
Yeah, I need to move to another server.
still pagoda
Second biggest EU alliance hub
Sitting right in the middle between Ravencrest and Silvermoon
radiant path
I really like what they did with the "new" AH. Did they make the change this patch or last patch?
still pagoda
You mean addon throttling?
radiant path
Not sure about that, but the new look of it is great and didn't they make it so things can be sold cross faction? I could be wrong there though.
Maybe not...
Ignore me haha
sick sentinel
you guys said up to 59 corruption is safe in m+?
still pagoda
Yes
sick sentinel
just debating clearing pants of chance for 1250 haste
radiant path
I guess it also depends on the dungeon... Some are more forgiving than others. Maybe I'll experiment going higher corruption on Freehold
strong forum
Also on some situations its better to eat the tfb and reflect the mechanic instead
Gotta Hammer that into your brain
radiant path
Oh, thats a good idea.
I've honestly never been above 40 yet on this toon. So I never thought of that.
sick sentinel
what i have to hammer into my brain is that i can make bigger pulls than i do.
radiant path
what i have to hammer into my brain is that i can make bigger pulls than i do.
@sick sentinel
Yeah... I remember when I finally realized that anything is possible with MoLD major haha
sick sentinel
but now bolstering. so yay
distant crystal
if you ain't dyin you ain't tryin
big true
gotta spend 1.5 hours in the scuffed key trying shit out for the next run
radiant path
Preach
sick sentinel
maybe it's a bad thing, but i almost never run my own key?
still pagoda
cloud wind
i dont see a problem with that, tanks are lucky because everyone needs one you get to pick and choose what dungeon you do
warm plinth
If you're too close to the wall, you die
still pagoda
Tidal surge is his frontal
steep bone
wait
still pagoda
Wait
still pagoda
I constantly forget ability names
warm plinth
If you get hit by crashing tide you're like the biggest pepega in the world
Because you literally shouldn't even have to move XD
steep bone
it was like this
thought im safe where im standing XDD
boss was top right corner tho
warm plinth
I always start to move in with like 5 seconds left on the timer
steep bone
soi just leaped
warm plinth
Since he's not gonna cast anything at that point until right after the surge
steep bone
wait you can predict where it's gonna happen?
warm plinth
No but you can not be near the wall when it happens
warm plinth
Where are you in this picture?
warm plinth
Oh I see
steep bone
sleeping belf
warm plinth
No, that looks like bullshit to me
steep bone
exactly
warm plinth
You should've 100% been safe there
steep bone
warm plinth
LOL
steep bone
x D
i agree i was being raaaaped by these packs at third boss
mostly to that stacking poison
warm plinth
What class was your healer?
steep bone
holy priest lmao
warm plinth
Oh yikes
still pagoda
If healer doesn't dispel you, then poison will fuck you
warm plinth
No disease dispel in siege is a feelsbad
still pagoda
Lul
steep bone
im purely sad
still pagoda
All poison dispels are disease dispels at the same time
steep bone
it was going good until that trash
still pagoda
still waiting for electricity to get back
wispy locust
would you guys prefer 465 haste vers gloves w/ leech or 475 haste verse gloves for vers build
steep bone
475 ofc
warm plinth
All poison dispels are not disease dispels 🤔
still pagoda
Leech is 
still pagoda
All poison dispels are not disease dispels 🤔
Detox: Exists
shadow bay
who needs healers
warm plinth
Druid is poison and curse
Shaman is curse
Priest is disease
Paladin/Monk are disease/poison
still pagoda
@warm plinth yeah
My bad
btu actually thats whole sentence
@steep bone
That guy is pure garbo then
PUREST
warm plinth
100%
mellow patio
@steep bone tell that guy to put his helmet on or he might hurt himself
still pagoda
steep bone
I mean dh dps tanking
with all cds
and healer cds
actually
is tanky
xD
actually moar of blame game adventures
elfin pulsar
btw guys how am i supposed to get up on m+ keys? i tryed 5 time +4 now with diefferent groups and not a single one made damage and made it in tine? like wtf?
warm plinth
Wait so he's blaming your corruption for your death despite it actually being a buggy mechanic?
still pagoda
steep bone
ofc
distant crystal
corrupt slow prevented you from getting into the LoS spot so you died right on the edge
don't @ me
steep bone
nah i leaped
im saving leap for that
then i just chilled there baiting boss frontal so i can go closer to fountain and it's not covered in gunk
sweet summit
that fountain is just fucked, you need to be in the middle of it for the spot to work as LoS. fountain only block the middle wave, as there are multiple waves that spawn
sweet summit
yeah
still pagoda
For last 2 years
slender nova
Just about to go do a heroic clear, dont have any raid gear yet - what should I bonus roll?
civic rover
prot can spell reflect tfb 44 corruption is fine what the hell
civic rover
i try to keep under 40 but thats because i'm bad
unless i'm doing 10s with peoples alts, then i go 64 corruption of sole TD
steep bone
literally in that 21/20 i felt like im just being tickled by stuff
still pagoda
Exactly
still pagoda
You don't take much damage on trash this week
steep bone
even bosses were hitting like nothing kinda
civic rover
lowkey though i just don't want a massive slow lmao
steep bone
avatar clears it i think
still pagoda
Yes
civic rover
skittish
steep bone
brilliant
still pagoda
Sanguine and bolstering remove any possibility of snapping dinomancer
sweet summit
someone link me a log of a m+ dungeon
distant crystal
you just sap the lead saurid
and then snap the rest of the middle pack separately
ezpz
warm plinth
You can snap dinomancer with sanguine
steep bone
wdym log of a m+ dung
warm plinth
Just have to do it in the right spot
distant crystal
yeah there's the fucky spot where the sanguine drops on like a different tier
distant crystal
or you can just jump down when sanguine happens and resnap elsewhere
