protection

[warm plinth]

I've not done tank and dps on the same class but I find them pretty easy as prot war

[distant crystal]

fury is really good/easy in visions

i've done feral and guardian and guardian is way better, i never really bothered with prot because i first tried fury and it was easy af

but i imagine prot with big td is also easy af

[warm plinth]

Yeah, I only have two TD on my war and it's zzz

[sick sentinel]

i have more fun duoing with a fire mage

won't lie

[wind sand]

is there a spreadsheet or resource that has a full list of reflectable casts in M+?

[graceful wave]

Yes it’s pinned under prot

[vestal pond]

Or fussion hacker from mechagon worth wearing?

[trail rune]

465+socket Bulwark of Brimming Potential or 475 Salvaged Mekacycle Shielding

[distant crystal]

475

[cinder pasture]

Always ilvl on shield

[trail rune]

if i get ilgy shield should i prio that over the mekacycle one?

[distant crystal]

if you get it 475 yes

meka is the worst 475 shield

but it's better than every other <475 shield

[trail rune]

aight ty

[main vault]

Who else saw the potion change and realized SL is going to be shit

[civic rover]

lol

[main vault]

Cause that was my first thought

[shadow wagon]

460 torment 460 vita 465 rezan, which two for m+

[sweet hearth]

with a haste / TD build which weap enchant should i be using?

[warm plinth]

I mean, the fact that all aoe is capped on 5-8 targets already had me thinking that

@shadow wagon Vita+Rezan

@sweet hearth Force or quick nav

[sweet hearth]

sweet ty

[primal sable]

i just forced a group into a 12.5 min underrot final boss solo cause they all died within a minute of pulling

[misty mulch]

New to prot, is Reckless Flurry any competitive (I'm mainly running 15's and below to help friends)

[shadow wagon]

not in 15s

or any keys

[sick sentinel]

it was like 3 tiers ago

xd

[shadow wagon]

@warm plinth you sure, torment does like 5% of my damage in keys

that's crazy for a trinket

[sharp night]

5% seems kinda high for torment

[warm plinth]

Yeah it does

[wide harbor]

Heart of Darkness or Iron fortress? dont have any iron fortress on azerite at the moment

for m+

[warm plinth]

What ilevel is your shield?

[wide harbor]

465

current azerite has 3x BoM, 2x HoD, 1 callous reprisal

[warm plinth]

465 is pretty good; you can probably go for HoD pretty safely

assuming you're running 25+ corruption after resist ofc

[hoary crescent]

what is the avg cd of avatar last stand and wall with AM?

new to war

[warm plinth]

Uh, haven't figured it in a while but Avatar is probably something like 45-50 seconds, Last Stand is around 1:00-1:15, and Wall is around 2 mins

[hoary crescent]

thats good to know

[warm plinth]

Assuming you're playing properly and not overcapping your rage

[hoary crescent]

yea

demos like 20ish?

[warm plinth]

Yeah something like that

[cursive hedge]

what essences are you guys using in 15-20 keys? I dont want to use subcreation since i know those builds are all super specific to high keys

[warm plinth]

Lucid/VoP major, and then Lucid/VoP, C&S, Warden minor

[arctic charm]

Can someone link a zen tracker weakaura that actually accounts for Kindling fire mage build and other CD reductions?

[distant crystal]

zentracker supports it natively

but everyone in group needs to run it with libgroupinspect

[arctic charm]

does everyone in group need to have addon?

or everyone needs ZT as well?

[distant crystal]

ye

i'm not sure if just the addon will suffice

i think they might need ZT backend too

but afaik that will support IT/kindling/vision etc

anger management too

[fringe dirge]

guys im at a loss. i keep getting conflicting answers regarding essence to use for m+ and raiding. what are your opinions for both?

[junior ivy]

Hi

[raven knoll]

someone knows the name of the toy to get into something like a pirate gnome? its used by m+ players for FH keys

[hoary crescent]

how does pandemic block work

[hoary crescent]

does it just str8 add the duration

[warm plinth]

It's just straight up duration addition

[hoary crescent]

so if u mash it twice itd be 12 sec right off the bat?

[warm plinth]

Yep

[hoary crescent]

ok cool

[warm plinth]

Though you typically don't do that because you don't want to have 12 seconds of flat uptime if you don't need it (e.g. boss is casting when the first charge runs out so no need to refresh immediately)

[raven knoll]

@warm plinth thanks bro can you tell me duration of the toy? like does it only keep up for 10min?

[warm plinth]

I don't have it but the latest wowhead comments that I see basically say it's permanent until you die or cancel it

[raven knoll]

perfect thanks!!

[mental scarab]

@sick sentinel lul found the tag 🤩 it was à druid tank👀

[sick sentinel]

what is this druid tank of which you speak

i thought they were believed to be extinct

Ironic that he does it same way I do, seeing as he's a bear and I'm yogi but I'm a warrior

[knotty fiber]

I druid tank :c

but also what are your preferred WA suites for prot?

[warm plinth]

I use Afenar's but I reorganized it

and a different rage bar

[undone sun]

[knotty fiber]

oh hey what's up thyme

[civic rover]

i only druid tank because i have the manbearpig form

if i didn't have it i'd never play bear again

[cursive hedge]

@warm plinth is C&S worth it as a minor if it's only rank 2?

[main vault]

Still Afenars @knotty fiber

:pog:

[civic rover]

@cursive hedge FWIW I’ve been using it as a minor as rank 2 for like 4 weeks and it hasn’t been an issue.

[warm plinth]

Yeah it's still worth it but Aegis passes it with less targets if Aegis is R3 and C&S is R2 (like 4 targets instead of 7)

Though just like any time, Aegis is less good on lower target counts (e.g. bosses)

[civic rover]

is worth running both CnF and aegis on teeming?

as minors?

[warm plinth]

Eh, I wouldn't personally

[civic rover]

messed around with it while doing 15s with guildies

was pretty fun to pull 6 or 7 packs at once and be invincible but had to go over 40 corruption since i gave up sotw

[teal spruce]

Hello guys, i'm having trouble keeping threat from a Ret pally. i clap like a madman and shockwave as soon as i notice he is taking trash from me. what else can i do to keep him from dying? (17-20 key range.)

[warm plinth]

If he's popping all of his burst immediately there's literally nothing you can do

Ret paladin has ridiculous burst AoE

[main vault]

It’s so dumb

TD level

[teal spruce]

Thank you for your input.

[sweet summit]

Let him die

Nvm he just boubles

[vocal imp]

does DC stack

?

[sullen valve]

Yes

only the damage parts stack

the duration of Demo shout doesn't stack

[upper violet]

True

[vocal imp]

ty

[sick sentinel]

Anyone have any preference on what essences to run Motherlode?

Worth using Nullification?

[sullen valve]

3rd boss has a lot of magic damage if healer doesn't spell you and you don't spell reflect the dot

[sweet summit]

Rixxa FUCKS

[exotic spoke]

I don’t think null is the play there. It’s better offensively than defensively imo

[steep bone]

Hello frens

[normal garnet]

is Mekacycle shield any good?

the shield with the proc

[steep bone]

If its your highest ilvl - yes, if its same ilvl as other - no

[normal garnet]

so proc is shit?

[steep bone]

This shield is bad in general yes

[upper violet]

yeah proc is poop

[sinful silo]

Hello and Goodmorning!

[steep bone]

waves

[sinful silo]

How come and every protection warrior is using the Lurker's weapon and not the one from Wrathion which has Versa on it?

[steep bone]

because it's 485

and wrathion's 475

[strong forum]

Ilvl >stats

[sinful silo]

is Ilvl more important than stats?

[strong forum]

It's what, 50 vers vs 10ilvl

10ilvl is huge for your dps

[steep bone]

Nomeratur, are you never sleeping?

[strong forum]

I'm at work

[steep bone]

everytime I'm here you're also here

[novel ruin]

But my wraithion wep has leeeecchh and a juicy socket.

[steep bone]

leech

[sweet summit]

Leech

[novel ruin]

Why y’all hating on leech?

[steep bone]

And socket You can have by buying it

[undone sun]

because it's not something to fascinate about

[steep bone]

Leech overall during dungeon isnt that high either

[novel ruin]

I mean once you have the gear, may as well try to get leech on the gear

Free healing

[undone sun]

it's a nice bonus, but nothing worth going out of your way for

[steep bone]

No, You better of get damage reduction from vers or if ure not doing high enough keys Td

Leech gives You healing and doesnt prevent from being oneshot

[novel ruin]

The best warriors all want leech...

[undone sun]

jesus christ

[steep bone]

As a bonus stat is nice not as corruption

[novel ruin]

Never said it was

[civic rover]

the best warriors are also doing 27/28 keys

[novel ruin]

Yes they are.

[steep bone]

And if ure asking such stuff then youre probably doing sub 20 or 15 keys, there You just need to play correctly and have juicy damage from TD

[novel ruin]

I didn’t ask a question...

And I’m doing 23/24 keys.

[civic rover]

kind of a dick thing to say tbh vivv

[novel ruin]

Sorry that my “leeeccchhh” spelling came off as serious

[steep bone]

I didnt mean to

[novel ruin]

You will always take ilvl on wep.

[obtuse yoke]

what graphics setting do i need to up to see cross ignition for last bos tol dagor?

because i couldn't see shit and i kept getting hit

[steep bone]

projected textures on

and if u still cannot see then probs something with contrast setting

[obtuse yoke]

there was efflo and darkness on the ground and i couldn't see shit

also where do y'all put your camera?

that canopy fucks me

[strong forum]

Either top down, or angled from the top right is what I do

[steep bone]

having 39.72% haste with itf is bad aye?

i swear im getting only non haste items xD

[undone sun]

it's not bad

[steep bone]

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/kazzak/waîfu that's my toon literally

[still pagoda]

need more haste anyway

your rings are great for vers builds tho

[steep bone]

when i was like 465 i've been getting only haste/vers pieces

now im getting crit/vers something/mastery but never haste xD

[still pagoda]

But... If you're not doing such content, then there's no reason for them :D

it'll get better with time

[steep bone]

that would be my other combo

but missing IT

i just followed rule of equipping ilvl

and applied IT to rings as it doesn't look like im gonna replace them any soon

[civic rover]

is there ever too much haste though'

[steep bone]

I just cucked myself

bought malefic core while i still havent killed nzoth and im capped on resistance 😦

2k echoes

[still pagoda]

is there ever too much haste though'
@civic rover

No

the more haste, the better

[civic rover]

i have like 60% haste with into the fray

or almost 60%

[steep bone]

is there ever too much haste though'
@civic rover you spelled 'there's never too much haste though' wrong

[civic rover]

laughs in tclap every gcd

[steep bone]

so im beta warrior with my sub 40

[still pagoda]

37% without ItF in my case

NEED MORE

[steep bone]

I demand more haste from RNGesus

[civic rover]

i'm pretty sure every piece i have has haste

[steep bone]

for testing purpose, if we'd go full haste gear with enchants and full gems and then put haste amps what % could we reach

[strong forum]

90ish%

Before itf

[steep bone]

so with itf it'd be 105

[strong forum]

Na more like 120 with itf

[steep bone]

and then bl

so 150

[strong forum]

ITF is multiplicative, not additive

[still pagoda]

ItF is a multiplier to your current haste

[steep bone]

oh

[strong forum]

Same as heroism

[steep bone]

Oh

okay

[still pagoda]

this is what makes it really strong

[steep bone]

then even more

[still pagoda]

and will continue so in SL

even despite nerfs

[steep bone]

what would happen with such haste

spammable tclaps with almost no gcd?

[undone sun]

gcd caps at .75s with 100% haste

[steep bone]

oh

[strong forum]

We could almost reach SB breakpoint

[steep bone]

which means almost 100% uptime on it ye?

[strong forum]

Ya

[steep bone]

oh my

[distant crystal]

so drop bolster

🙂

[strong forum]

Ya that could almost be possible

[steep bone]

but with bolster

[hallow phoenix]

i'd like to think bolster would still be better

[distant crystal]

and then when people ask about binding SB into shieldslam

[steep bone]

bolster gives SB ye

[distant crystal]

we could say "yeah that's the play"

[hallow phoenix]

I'd still run bolster even if i had perma shield block uptime

60 sec cd reduction on a big heal :^)

[steep bone]

never surrender could be nice vs magical dmg then wouldn't it be?

[hallow phoenix]

maybe?

Never low health for long

[distant crystal]

indomitable

for the big TD hits

^_^

[hallow phoenix]

we're stacking expedient here

[steep bone]

but if you had full haste amps

[hallow phoenix]

no room for TD

[steep bone]

then you've no room for that

[distant crystal]

2x TD3 7x exped3

ezpz

[hallow phoenix]

ree

[undone sun]

NS isn't ever worth using

[slender nova]

Hi all,

Is the Prot hidden artifact appearance still obtainable via class trials?
I'm at 10+ class trial attempts and I haven't heard the roar once 😦

[steep bone]

It is

[slender nova]

Damn, I must be really unlucky

[steep bone]

you have to be in prot spec and go there, run macro and keep repeating if it fails

[slender nova]

do you really need the macro? I've been entering the cave and if there's no emote sound I've been leaving

[steep bone]

https://discordapp.com/channels/148872210742771712/148897941883584512/726713558003482675

on wowhead some people reported that they didn't get emote

[slender nova]

Yeah, I've tried a shit ton. Will try another set of trials in an hour

[strong forum]

Well it is rng

Some people haven't gotten it in several months of doing it

[steep bone]

but now you can just force it by making trials

[distant crystal]

i don't get it tho

[strong forum]

Took me personally like 30 attempts, but it did it day1 of when it was possible and you could just relog instead of needing a new character

[distant crystal]

how do you get it from trial to your real toon?

[strong forum]

....

It's class wide

[warm plinth]

Once you have the appearance unlocked it’s account wide

[strong forum]

Not character specific

[distant crystal]

weird

[strong forum]

🤷

[warm plinth]

Yeah like my vulpera war has mage tower and hidden despite only having unlocked it on my dwarf

Hmt druid has harambear despite me unlocking it on my worgen

[strong forum]

I mean you can even use elite pvp sets on different characters

As long as it same class, and bfa all you need is same armor type

Which is even more of a questionmark

[warm plinth]

Your sale armor type

Same

You’re

[strong forum]

Mission failed

[warm plinth]

Fuck my phone

[distant crystal]

[slender nova]

Okay, hearing you say it took 30 attempts makes me a bit less worried
I'm at about 10-12 attempts so far 😦

[warm plinth]

I did it every day for 2 months

[strong forum]

Like I said, some people didn't get it for several months / years

[warm plinth]

Before I got it

[undone sun]

imagine not getting it before it was fixed

[strong forum]

This

[warm plinth]

Started trying the day after they fixed the relog exploit

[still pagoda]

it took me 3 years to get prot secret appearance

[undone sun]

🙂

[cloud wind]

just come back, last time i properly played was 8.0. I plan on playing arms pvp but also tanking for my irl friends in m+ since they all play pure dps classes.

I have 475 haste verse glvoes and plan on stacking full haste verse gear, should i buy twilight devastation rank 3 to put on those gloves, or a vers amp and put devastation on random 460 piece

thinking im guna get the devastation rank 3 then fill out rest with versa

[strong forum]

Whatever you're gonna use for the longest

I have put my TDs on weapons

[cloud wind]

only have a 465 wep personally, just torn because TD isnt that amazing in pvp

[strong forum]

Putting vers amp makes most sense obv to put on vers gear if that's your plan, TD can technically be wherever you want it to be

[still pagoda]

you won't use 1H and shield on arms anyway

[cloud wind]

i guess i probs should put it on the 1h, wont take that long to get another 15k echoes down the line when i finally get a 470/475 wep

i heard somthing about corruptions scaling with ilvl. Is that false? or is it only for stuff like the tentacle and infinite stars

[strong forum]

Only for tendies, Stars and GW

[cloud wind]

sadly think im guna miss out on twilight dev this reset

think its on tomorrow and i only have 8k

i assume itll be a 15k price

[steep bone]

farm visions they're giving lots of echoes, pvp is also good source for them

[cloud wind]

ye currently spaming arena, was guna save my coalescing till i had better gear/essences but maybe i should use them all up if im close

[slender nova]

I'm saving mines as well, I'm only rank 5 cloak on this warrior. Just hit 460, but I wanna get one TD piece to make it a bit easier.

[cloud wind]

ye pretty much in the same boat

i only do like 40k dps as fury

wanted to get a TD to make it east to steamroll and clear more per vision

[slender nova]

I do all mines as Prot, but my dps is low ~30k

[steep bone]

oof if you don't have elite extermination it's ass and don't think it's possible to do full clear

[cloud wind]

i really wish there was a better way to get mementos outside of visions

my next upgrade is elite extermination, need like 1k more

[steep bone]

clear raid, trash is giving lots of echoes

there's also way to just spend your life in lesser vision, mobs there drop echoes

[distant crystal]

wut

neither of those give echoes

[slender nova]

@steep bone

[cloud wind]

we were talking about mementos at the end , for upgrading mothers tree thing

[distant crystal]

ohh

[strong forum]

Grats

[still pagoda]

gz

[slender nova]

Hmm, doesnt seem to be transmogable on my 120 warr?

[still pagoda]

wait a bit

it'll show up

[distant crystal]

did you mog it on the trial

[slender nova]

I've just tried that

[distant crystal]

or like, choose it from the artifact table

[slender nova]

chose it, logging now to check

Nice, got it! Thanks all

[sweet summit]

Np

[cloud wind]

twilight dev rank 3 is 15k echoes isnt it?

[strong forum]

Ye

[steep bone]

is it difficult to boost 5mask as prot?

[strong forum]

Nop

[steep bone]

mobs have increased hp yes?

and im pretty sure it should be piece of cake with 475 and td5

[strong forum]

Mobs have reduced HP compared to dps specs

[steep bone]

yeah but when im alone, but what about if i have boostie with me

[strong forum]

Then I don't think the hp reduction does apply

Only healers reduce the HP in group visions I think

[steep bone]

i wanna try to boost druid so can tell him to go healer

[strong forum]

Ye

[steep bone]

in orgri im using like 1 orb

alone

and then second one just for big safety on thrall

[sick sentinel]

bis trinket ?

[steep bone]

for what

[sick sentinel]

prot

[steep bone]

for what content

[sick sentinel]

m+ or raid

[steep bone]

vita+lps or lps+alchemy one but thats for giga defense

[orchid frigate]

hmm so some time ago i watched naowh doing raal and when he was casting tenderize he went into the kitchen and got the maggots. tried to do the same but then raal reset 😦

[steep bone]

or vita+scale/rezan

but for damage i think ud better of simming yourself

[orchid frigate]

no one in melee i guess?

[still pagoda]

m+ or raid
@sick sentinel

Double haste trinkets. Vita and Dragonscale in particular

LPS(N'Zoth trinket) is situational in raid environment(Ilgy and N'zoth, both in mythic, if you don't feel comfortable with CD cycling) and a niche high key thing in M+

[sick sentinel]

thank you ❤️

[steep bone]

Im so bad at explaining xD @still pagoda , thanks ❤️

[sick sentinel]

hummig and vita ye

[steep bone]

with pugs since i have lps im always using vita/lps as a reference xD

[sick sentinel]

aight lemme get lps 😄

whats better for dps tho .. arms or furry ?

what gear can i use from my prot to any of those dps specs ?

is my prot gear better for arms or furry ?

[steep bone]

if ure gonna use crit/haste as prot then u can use it for fury

for prot you're going for ilvl first to probably your gear gonna be all around the world with stats

until you get to high keys like 23 or higher where stacking vers actually matters

[sick sentinel]

tyyy

[steep bone]

I dunno stats for arms but i think its haste haste and more haste

however you'd probably still have to replace some pieces with different corruptions

[still pagoda]

whats better for dps tho .. arms or furry ?

They are equal

what gear can i use from my prot to any of those dps specs ?

None due to different corruptions.

aight lemme get lps 😄
@sick sentinel

You don't need LPS when running with pugs

if it makes you comfortable, no one will stop you from using it, but otherwise, it is not needed until +23 keys for sure

[scarlet copper]

so I learned today...

that in workshop

Avatar is so big that it doesn't let you through the maze area after spider obelisk

[orchid frigate]

annoying

just like when you get gift of titans and cant get into the little huts

[steep bone]

@still pagoda LPS is indeed not needed but pug quality is rather poor than good so having that extra defensive is pretty nice

[civic rover]

Pirate gnome toy is a requirement in workshop because of that one stupid door

[buoyant ore]

Might be a dumb question, but how come warriors become «invincible» during avatar? Isnt IT just a dps cd?

[steep bone]

IT?

[buoyant ore]

Isnt it (avatar) just a dps cd? Phone formatting text wierdly :/

[steep bone]

Ohh, I thought you meant corruption and was like wut

[strong forum]

Because of the high mastery amount you get off of the azerite trait Bastion of might

It raises our critical block chance to very high levels

[buoyant ore]

Ah, i see, thanks for clearing it up for me!

[strong forum]

Making it so that alot of the blocked attacks are reduced by up to 85%

[buoyant ore]

@strong forum thanks alot

[strong forum]

👍

[sick sentinel]

GUYS

we fucking did it 😄

[steep bone]

Lucky, gratz 😄

[sick sentinel]

fuck lucky as fuck

and some1 gave me bis hands with socket xD

[strong forum]

[sick sentinel]

what essences u use ?

[strong forum]

For what specifically

[sick sentinel]

m+

[strong forum]

For lower than 21, Vop major sote+cns+Lucid/sphere/aegis minor

For 21+
Lucid major (cns major in niche uses and if you're stacking 6+ vers3 corruptions)
Sotw+vop+lucid/aegis/cns/sphere minor

You're also free to check the icy veins guide and the pins in this channel

[sick sentinel]

thank u ma men

[slender nova]

What's everyone HP currently at about 460-470 ilvl?

I'm sitting at 630k at 460 - seems low

[still pagoda]

476 783k with no SotW

HP is not really a good thing to look at

[slender nova]

Yeah

[steep bone]

475il 792k

some pieces of gear have more stamina than others at same ilvl so it depends what hp you do have

[orchid frigate]

stupid question about "stacking 6+ vers3 corruptions". why does that part makes it a good major?

[still pagoda]

because CnS minor vers doubles on each hard CC or root

and it's basically a giga boost

well

[orchid frigate]

aah

so it doubles up on the root

[still pagoda]

i ran CnS in +23AD with only 2 vers3's

was pretty good since i was able to sit at 20% flat DR

[orchid frigate]

👍

[sweet summit]

@delicate swan 😠

[strong forum]

[sweet summit]

[steep bone]

7 nzoth kills still no helmet

[sweet summit]

Do it pussy

[civic rover]

do you not have reroll tokens

[steep bone]

im using them on skitra/wrathion

for weap/shoulders

from mythic that is

[still pagoda]

7 nzoth kills still no helmet
@steep bone

Just get Abyssal Malevolence

Though i've got n'zoth helmet from mythic dungeons weekly event

[steep bone]

i don't have acces to mythic of it

so nzoth is only highest ilvl helm i can get

[pearl pike]

Im gearing up a Prot to do some M+ with IRL friends. What is usually easier to gear for WQ and just mongo DPSing Arms/Fury? or does not even matter.

[loud shoal]

prob fury

[steep bone]

I just did dungeon with crucible flame in major

[loud shoal]

good ST dam

[steep bone]

yeah it was pretty cool

[glad plume]

hi! Jes' Howler 475 it's good as trnket ?

[orchid frigate]

weird, a dude is giving me rings for free while im leveling

whats wrong with people??

[main vault]

No place for that kind of bs in this game

[orchid frigate]

excactly

[sick sentinel]

819k with these buffs

[main vault]

Is that Anima major and Minor?

[orchid frigate]

now he gives me gems as well

[main vault]

Oh no ok, pic was small

Gems!

[steep bone]

now he gives me gems as well
@orchid frigate

[main vault]

He is a creeper, block

[sick sentinel]

endurance is one of them, parry and heal, other is 3% hp

[main vault]

Too many strange people out there, gotta stay safe

[strong forum]

I mean

I also trade shit I don't need if I boost someone?

Is that so weird?

[sick sentinel]

he's probably just really lonely, is the sad reality

[orchid frigate]

hes relogging now to give me some 120 gear

here we go agane

[sick sentinel]

i barely know anything about this situation and im not you but i'm getting weird vibes from him already

[orchid frigate]

haha

[main vault]

If you don’t block now you’ll have a pet forever

[sick sentinel]

perhaps you'll come to your senses and run away as fast as you can!

[steep bone]

How do you solo those little fear guys in KR at the beggining, just berserker rage and belf? Whenever i tried there's always two or three going after people and it ends up as shitfiesta with 4 constructs casting their yolo frontals
I assume there's some pixel perfect spot to get all of them

[main vault]

People stack around the corner so they funnel in

Easiest way I’ve found

[sick sentinel]

ho boy, looks like a stage 5 clinger

[strong forum]

Next thing you know he drugged your ring and you'll wake up in the next Inn

[orchid frigate]

im free for now

he's going for a walk he says

[strong forum]

Quickly block him

[sick sentinel]

get away from that fucker as fast as you can bro, it's bad news.

just trust us okay?

[steep bone]

@orchid frigate actually if ur on horde eu and still leveling i can provide you with fh boost, absolutely for free

[strong forum]

Maybe he thinks you're a girl

[sick sentinel]

oooh, you may be right

[strong forum]

Was about to make a bad joke but I'll prolly get a slap on the wrist

[orchid frigate]

im only 47 but tywm @steep bone 🙂

[sick sentinel]

i mean, if he thinks your a girl and you can scam some gold out of him i'd go for it lmao

[steep bone]

haha, still if ure gonna hit that 110 u can msg me

[orchid frigate]

wow the old dungeons are super boring

[steep bone]

wow is super boring until like 90+

[orchid frigate]

mhm

soon some TW shenanigans

with weirdly tuned dungeons

might take you up on it @steep bone

[main vault]

Dungeons are kinda meh way to level now

[orchid frigate]

yeah

oh stratholme

[main vault]

I wanna level another DH I think

[orchid frigate]

living side!

[steep bone]

dungs are pretty chill

[sweet summit]

@strong forum ive heard some rumours about VoP major proc rate scaling with neck level y/n?

[strong forum]

False

[sweet summit]

unluck

[main vault]

Def only haste

[strong forum]

.952 rppm or some shit

Is the proc rate

[sweet summit]

also depends on spec right? or is it flat

for everyone

[strong forum]

Flat afaik

[main vault]

It depends on spec I think

Im pretty sure base is like .85-1 ppm

[main vault]

yeah

[sweet summit]

thats neat

[orchid frigate]

love the paladin frisbee

[strong forum]

Ya that's a fun button

But feels progressively worse the bigger your pulls get

Whoever thought a target capped tank would be great in comparison to other tanks that aren't target capped, deserves a slap on the wrist

[fossil crown]

Is it okay to do visions as prot? All new to warrior, prot seems to be safer atm?

[main vault]

Any spec is fine

[modern brook]

Prot is easiest imo

Nothing deals damage you have the most cc and the strongest heals

Bosses taking 15s longer isnt a big deal

But yeah all specs are fine

[steady slate]

even arcane mage?

[sweet summit]

arcane slaps mate

dont talk shit about arcane

[steady slate]

for about 2 seconds, then it's out of mana

[main vault]

Arcane is actually pretty solid

Doesn’t matter when you run out of mana if everything is dead once you do

[steep bone]

pugs cannot do third boss in underrot

[novel ruin]

Pugs can’t do any boss in UR besides first

[steep bone]

maan, ive two shockwaves

i cleared most of the place, we had 2 places of stacked shrooms

both of those idiots with debuff gone for one

leaving like 5 shrooms alone

and its 2k20 and ppl still do charge into africa on 2nd

[novel ruin]

My favorite is how much people freak out with doing blob or fear guy with last boss

[steep bone]

never had a chance to do that

im just doing all pillars before last xD

[novel ruin]

Once you start consistently pushing higher keys, going left is such a huge waste of time. Inefficient count

[steep bone]

yeah

we were so good on time tho

but then three wipes on third

and fourth and dps who literally failed that one bomb placement left

[novel ruin]

Third can be rough, imo is harder than cragmaw

[steep bone]

and monk healer who didnt kno revival clears stacks

[novel ruin]

😦

[steep bone]

how do people get those 18-19 keys

[novel ruin]

Cuz everyone is geared

And does damage/ilvl / corruption carries to a certain extent

[still pagoda]

have you ever encountered such legitimate coomers?

guy did only 3 interrupts through whole area before Sorn in +20 SotS

and constantly whined that i don't pull big

[steep bone]

Also, which way is better, ive seen tanks doing it one or another way, but is there 'better' one or it's just depending on shrooms positioning?

[still pagoda]

i did 25 interrupts myself

and had to constantly do this

[sweet summit]

if you dont do 1 you're a psychopath @steep bone

[novel ruin]

I do 2

Or 1

Depending on spawn

[steep bone]

i mean it's either 2 then just 1 1 1

or 1 1 1 1

but whatever i did

[still pagoda]

if you're doing 2, you're definitely left-handed

[sweet summit]

wait is this 3rd or last boss

[still pagoda]

[steep bone]

ppl dropped bombs either close in front of me or right behind me

[novel ruin]

3rd

[steep bone]

third

[sweet summit]

oh i go from middle and out

[novel ruin]

Yup

[steep bone]

on lost boss i just tell people to stack on me (where theres one special snowflake who doesn't - ALWAYS) and then just tell them to go either clockwise or counter clockwise

[sweet summit]

like this

[novel ruin]

First one through middle to create a space then. Either left or right depending on what’s gonna get bigger shockwave

[sweet summit]

literally just get as many shrooms as possible and adapt to what the dps players do

[strong forum]

@still pagoda welcome to mage brain that doesn't understand how you play dungeons

[sweet summit]

as a tank you're just as much of a simp as a healer

[novel ruin]

Pugged a 17 UR yesterday with Unholy friend. Pulled entire cragmaws room. Was super fun

[steep bone]

thing is that we always had either 5 or 4 shrooms not soaked

[still pagoda]

@still pagoda welcome to mage brain that doesn't understand how you play dungeons
@strong forum

Yeah, the guy was really fucking boosted

3.5k rio

can't calm down

[novel ruin]

@still pagoda he prob didn’t spell steal anything either

[still pagoda]

behaved like a 12 yo

[sweet summit]

thats why i soak 2-3 between shockwaves in pugs @steep bone

[steep bone]

maan fire mages watches those world first fire mages thinking you can do their fancy pulls in pug

[still pagoda]

@still pagoda he prob didn’t spell steal anything either
@novel ruin

he didn't

AT ALL

3 interrupts

from him

and literally zero spell steals

[strong forum]

Shrine really is a horrible mage dungeon

[steep bone]

and they get super tilted if you dont pull whole instance CoMbuStiON

[steady slate]

using utility takes time away from dps

[strong forum]

Can't do big pulls

At all

[sweet summit]

lifehack, go arcane

[novel ruin]

You can though

[steep bone]

if you have kicks

stuns and such

so you dont poof from water blasts

[strong forum]

You can only pull like 4-5 mobs tops

In the beginning

And that requires brain

Alot of brain

[sweet summit]

you have one "big pull" after first boss

[novel ruin]

Yeah but you don’t ever pull more than you can safely kick/lockdown

[sweet summit]

in the small room thingy by sorn

thats about it xd

[strong forum]

Ya that's it

Rest is just for mages

[steep bone]

you've like aoe stun, st stun, kick, one reflect, then fire mage has rof, db and like dh ro something with aoe/st stun + kick or even cage

so many stuff

[strong forum]

And it needs to be a decent key level too

[novel ruin]

Can also pull big on left side before 2nd boss

[jolly thistle]

Pull more - die - flame him for not interrupting

[novel ruin]

Tempest doesn’t need to be kicked

[sweet summit]

ohohohoh

tempest will kill

[strong forum]

[novel ruin]

Not your fault

If someone gets hit

[sweet summit]

🤷‍♀️

why make the dungeon harder

[strong forum]

It's a frontal, you think people can dodge frontals

Hint, they can't

[sweet summit]

known fact

[steep bone]

reee. either 20+ underrots or some pleb 10-11s, never gonna get that score

[novel ruin]

Depends on key level. Anything below 20 feel free to pull 1 pack at a time

[strong forum]

Even in 22

You can do that

[novel ruin]

Depends on dungeon

[strong forum]

Shits so forgiving

You however, can't sperg

[jolly thistle]

or: pull more, kick + reflect, stun, fear and then kite. They don’t have a anti kiting mechanic

[novel ruin]

If you pull big, know what’s dangerous and tell people what to do

[still pagoda]

if you pull big, don't do this in SotS

[novel ruin]

I mean if you are 3kio you should have an understanding of the dungeon, your abilities, etc.

It’s the same way with pulling trash onto bosses. Is super efficient depending on dungeon/affix week but people freak out when you add 1 extra thing to an already easier encounter.

[steady slate]

getting old sucks. i had to look up "simp" and "sperg" because I had no idea what they meant

[sweet summit]

simp

[steep bone]

18UR attempt No2

[steady slate]

nah. "happily married"

[sweet summit]

simping for your wife

[steady slate]

guilty

[still pagoda]

@strong forum @novel ruin typical pugs blyat

[steady slate]

that looks sadly normal

[novel ruin]

Call them out

Tell them to improve

[still pagoda]

i did

[novel ruin]

You did your job then

[sweet summit]

"kick or i kick you"

[still pagoda]

and got kicked out of the group by mage with this dropping into my DM's

[novel ruin]

Report for harassment

[still pagoda]

nah

[novel ruin]

We don’t need people like that in the community...

[still pagoda]

public shame on that bitch

[novel ruin]

Believe that’s against the rules of the discord

[still pagoda]

it should be against the rules everywhere

technically eliminating all the #metoo bullshit at the same time

but nah

this guy acted like a 12 yo and will continue so

[steady slate]

maybe he is a 12 year old

children have the occasional meltdown. it's expected

at least he didn't do it in the middle of target during christmas shopping season

[novel ruin]

At the same time report the individual. That behavior shouldn’t be condoned in gaming.

[steady slate]

agreed. a 3 day suspension might do him good

[novel ruin]

If you do nothing, you by being a bystander, are saying that behavior is okay. Which is the wrong stance.

[mellow patio]

Just be toxic back 4head

The old fire with fire approach

[steady slate]

nah. it's like in football, where the guy who responds to the provocation is always the one to draw the flag

[mellow patio]

Be toxic with your gameplay

[steady slate]

oh yeah. answer his pleas to pull more with single pack pulls.

[novel ruin]

Yes

[mellow patio]

If mage yells at you like that to pull more, pull so much there is no way the group can survive

Then blame him for not killing it

He will learn

[steady slate]

doubt it

[chilly brook]

Big facts just be toxic

Ez pz

@mellow patio you're fricken trash ok

[steady slate]

honestly, being mean really isn't my style

[mellow patio]

Bliz is not known to take action against people unless they are throwing around hate speech. So I become the law and teach them with my actions

[chilly brook]

Truuuueeee

[mellow patio]

I may not be able to ban you but I can sure make this dungeon terrible for you

[jolly thistle]

Never be toxic

[chilly brook]

I hate when DPS tell me to pull big so I do but then things don't die fast enough or the healer cant handle it

Like I pull the way I do for a reason

[mellow patio]

That’s my favorite

I sip my coffee and watch the world burn

[steady slate]

lol

[mellow patio]

Because it’s a game why would I be upset

[chilly brook]

But then I pull big and everyone dies and we go on about the way I do it

This week is fun though

BIG pulls

BIG

BIG BIG BIG

[steady slate]

i love teeming weeks, especially teeming volcanic

[chilly brook]

finished a UR yesterday at 67k on my vengy boi

[jolly thistle]

yeah WCM is ultra fun on low keys

[steady slate]

does vengy get the eyebeam or is that only havoc?

[chilly brook]

Havoc

But vengy gets fel puke baseline next xpac

[mellow patio]

God if vengeance had eyebeam it would be the most busted class in the game

Can you imagine

[chilly brook]

I can it would be dope

And we'd have something to spend our pain on

[mellow patio]

Excuse me

[chilly brook]

[mellow patio]

We have one button

[chilly brook]

I dont

[mellow patio]

All I want is a 10 yard range on sigil of chains

[chilly brook]

Cuz I'm not a weirdo who plays ftd

[mellow patio]

Is that so much to ask

[chilly brook]

But frac/spb/demonic is gonna be pog

[mellow patio]

Yeah While I have enjoyed my time as a Td/glut turtle

I am looking forward to some change

[chilly brook]

I'll miss glut/vop

[mellow patio]

I’ll miss it except on ra den when I want nothing more than to not be in meta for 2 seconds during decaying strike and I get a meta proc

[chilly brook]

Bruh I took pretty much all my decaying strikes at full HP on Tuesday and yet it was like the smoothest pull in terms of me not freaking out about almost dying

[mellow patio]

Oh if i take it at full hp as prot I am gone

At least with dh I have a chance lmao

[steep bone]

yep, they failed last boss

ppl making boss spit to africa

[chilly brook]

I'm a BrM sooo

Zen Med that first one it I take it at full HP

[mellow patio]

Playing brew

Sigh

[chilly brook]

I know

[mellow patio]

Hawgbear is coming to the reclear next week

[chilly brook]

I was able to talk my GM to letting me do up to Hivemind on my DH though

So maybe if I play my cards right I can convince him to just let me swap

I gave away a mythic slapper on Tuesday too

[mellow patio]

It really doesn’t matter what you play at this point

[chilly brook]

Which means if I had been on my DH I could have a mythic slapper

[mellow patio]

I looted two slappers last night so now I can retire this guy

[chilly brook]

Lol

At least I got the glaive off hivemind so I have a 475 weapon finally

[steep bone]

i swear pugs cannot UR >.<

[chilly brook]

Big true

Had a 2200 mw in the one yesterday and the dude was straight retarded

Running crane, did only 16k overall

🤔

Let the party die on last boss

Missed the 3 chest by 30 seconds

Literally the difference between 3 chesting and 2 chesting was him letting all 3 of our dps die

Also doing last ob on last boss of UR is underrated

[oblique garnet]

There is no good way to not do the obelisk on UT

[orchid frigate]

they really positioned one of the obelisk a bit awkward in UR

or well

the one after 2nd boss is a bit odd as well

"here, you can skip a worm"

[vocal skiff]

and it's usually better not to skip it

[orchid frigate]

mhm

[vocal skiff]

walking through the slow feels bad

[orchid frigate]

yeah

[still pagoda]

Running crane, did only 16k overall
@chilly brook

kekW

i was doing one MW run yesterday

[steep bone]

wiping on last boss

[still pagoda]

did 70k under WotC

[chilly brook]

I have a 19 WCM I need to do

[steep bone]

literally

telling peeps to face themselves towarsd the wall and dont move to africa when boss started casting his thingy

they go to africa, noone could clear debuff, we all died like 4 times

best thing, on first pull we actually gone with fear obelisk with boss and it went flawalessly XD

[chilly brook]

Inb4 they blame you for pulling ob with last boss

[steep bone]

nah

i asked everyone if they wanna do that

we had tremor totem for first fear

[chilly brook]

I dont ask I tell

[steep bone]

then it was basically dead before second one

[chilly brook]

[steep bone]

but idd i got blamed for making boss spit to africa

[chilly brook]

Lul

[steep bone]

while healer was just rp walking towards where we were going to

and guys with debuff clear thingy ran away from us

XD

but hpala was rocking with 40k hps

[chilly brook]

40k wadu

[nova idol]

Wish me luck on my Azerite Gamble lads

[steep bone]

gl

[chilly brook]

I hope you dont get what you want

If you dont expect good things in wow you get good things

[mellow patio]

^

[steep bone]

took me only two tries to get giga chest

[nova idol]

Soulspun Casque

[tame garden]

btw you dont want the boss to face the wall

[nova idol]

3rd in a row

[tame garden]

you want him to face backwards into the existing puddles

[steep bone]

i wish i could

[tame garden]

if he spits into the wall the puddles will "bounce" back and land unpredictably

[steep bone]

actually didnt know that

but it's not my fault that people were standing around him so he did spit towards where we were going to

like we were out of space before second group of adds spawned

xD

[warm plinth]

Which lieutenant are you doing with him, slime?

[steep bone]

if you're asking me we did it with fear guy

he wasn't a problem tbh, mage was pumping him hard, but then since it was already depleto we just killed it

[sweet summit]

the left one on boss, always.

[warm plinth]

Yeah I wasn’t sure which one it was this week

[steep bone]

blob is first this week

then tank buster

isn't tank buster always on 2nd boss?

[warm plinth]

Tank buster is always there yeah

[sweet summit]

and spider is always right

[warm plinth]

And spider is always at third obelisk. It’s just first and last that rotate

[steep bone]

but damn

blob actually hits hard

[strong forum]

yup he slaps

[sweet summit]

ye blob and fear guy melees hard for some reason

[steep bone]

i thought they scaled with forti

but they slap hard

[sweet summit]

they scale with key level

[steep bone]

how does they slap on levels you're doing, like 24ish?

[sweet summit]

tickle cus i'd be running vers 🤣

[steep bone]

and back to my UR, im actually proud of my pugs, they followed kick rotation and even understood that Spell Reflect up means no interrupt xD

reflecting her casts deals so much dmg ❤️

[sweet summit]

it was even better pre-nerf

[warm plinth]

Yeah fear guy is honestly the scariest lieutenant to me lol

Hits so hard and the adds chew through you

If you do him not with a boss ofc

[mellow patio]

My question

WHAT does the blob hit me with

He don’t got arms

[sweet summit]

his face

[mellow patio]

And WHY does it hurt since he is jelly

[stoic forge]

what if I tell you that blob doesn't exist outside Nylotha ?

[sweet summit]

its HARD jelly

[stoic forge]

https://tenor.com/view/jesse-90dayfiance-beforethe90days-jesseanddarcey-darcey-gif-12637880

[steep bone]

blob would be cool raid boss tbh

instead of drest lol

[chilly brook]

Actually imagine

A council fight

In nyalotha of all 4 of the mini bosses together

[mellow patio]

Man that feels like a missed opportunity

And instead of killing the dudes in m+ they teleport out

But you kill them in raid

Wow

applies to blizzard as game designer

[chilly brook]

Wouldn't it be cool

Would have been such a better decision than drest'agath lmao

[sweet summit]

just swap em

have drest as every last boss of a dungeon instead

[mellow patio]

Oh god

That thought makes me want to uninstall

[gloomy holly]

nty

[orchid frigate]

feels like im starting to get a grip (hehehehe) on how to play my BDK tho its feels like a slippery slope once i start losing runic power

but i guess theres only so much you can do to heal up

[radiant path]

if he spits into the wall the puddles will "bounce" back and land unpredictably
@tame garden
Well thats not true... I can predict that they'll land right on me 😂

[tame garden]

[steep bone]

another attempt on Underrot

[exotic spoke]

:rooCry:

[warm plinth]

Today sucks

[exotic spoke]

Yup

[vivid wagon]

Does Warrior race actually matter as a beginner?

Or at any point?

[warm plinth]

Warrior race doesn't matter at any point

[vivid wagon]

Ok cool

Thanks

[radiant path]

Panda Master Race #foodbuff

I'm not even a panda 😂

[exotic spoke]

There are niche cases where one is slightly better than another- but they certainly wont make or break things. And even then -when one is slightly better at one thing it usually isnt at another

[radiant path]

But that food buff would be awesome.

[warm plinth]

I like vulpera because I can be horde but also flip

[radiant path]

But I hate the way armor looks on them 😦

[warm plinth]

And nose for trouble is solid for dungeons

And having a hearth you can set anywhere is pretty pog too

[radiant path]

Thats very true... Nose for trouble actually heals for a decent amount!

[exotic spoke]

I personally love Dwarf / Dark Iron

[warm plinth]

Dwarf will always be my favorite but until they let us cross-faction, well, 😦

[radiant path]

Dark Iron Dwarf looks doooope. If I played alliance, it would be that.

I'm currently Mag'har Orc.

[warm plinth]

I was Mag'har before Vulpera came out

[radiant path]

My BDK is Vulpera.

Love it

[exotic spoke]

I meant - even Space goats are great at certainthings. Like taking bounties to kill people on Ra-den

in mythic

with a huge Last stand / Shout / Gift

[strong crescent]

Orcs make gear look awesome why I’m mag’har too

[radiant path]

I honestly think that gear looks best on humans and blood elves haha. Everything is proportionate and nothing looks wonky. Sometimes helmets look really weird on Orcs, Vulpera, etc. I usually don't run with a helmet on anything other than a male blood elf haha. But I currently don't have any blood elf toons anymore.

[steep bone]

@radiant path no it doesn't look good on belfs 😄

[radiant path]

Male blood elves haha

[mellow patio]

Gear looks best on panda don’t @ me

Look at that beautiful bastard

[radiant path]

It's also specific to the gear.

Here's my pirate warrior haha

I had the fish transmog for my weapon... then I tried out this weapon instead.. Not sure if I like it or not.

[radiant path]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=163928/stinkrot-smasher#videos:id=166250

It's awesome haha. It flops around with every little movement

[wooden radish]

@warm plinth thanks

[warm plinth]

❤️

[wooden radish]

@exotic spoke did you kill carapace

[exotic spoke]

1%

so no. People got sloppy

[warm plinth]

1% smh, that's rough

[still pagoda]

@radiant path no it doesn't look good on belfs 😄
@steep bone

The only place where it looks good is female Draenei

[sweet summit]

male draenei

[still pagoda]

[wooden radish]

imagine ever playing male spacegoat anything

[still pagoda]

imagine ever playing male spacegoat anything [2]

draenei is that one case where male model doesn't exist

[steep bone]

imagine implying that spacegoats have male gender

[wooden radish]

id play a dwarf before i played a male spacegoat

[sweet summit]

playing alliance tho thats kinda cringe bro

[still pagoda]

played space goatgirls back on Alliance

now playing only blood elfs

[steep bone]

lfd was gawdlike at start of bfa, done many fun pulls with my racial

[strange tide]

Male panda is best boi

[strong forum]

if panda was so good, why cant you figure out a good mog besides topless miner / farmer

[wooden radish]

i play alliance so i can gank @lusty grotto like i did that one time in vale

[strong forum]

[still pagoda]

i'm just using T20 for transmog

since it looks ideally on BE

[radiant path]

Shots fired

[sweet summit]

pew pew

[chilly brook]

RIP Reckful

[sweet summit]

rip

[lusty grotto]

@wooden radish when was that

RIP

[still pagoda]

RIP

[lusty grotto]

lincoln answer me!

also which char

[stiff oracle]

RIP indeed, will be missed dearly

[steep bone]

6th try on underrot today

didnt even finished it

as for saying that if u stand in africa we'll have nowhere to run

7th attempt or dunno lost in count

[lusty grotto]

what are you attempting ?

[steep bone]

underrot

17-18 XD

[lusty grotto]

oh

tyrannical UR hmm

[steep bone]

this run

we had +2

but people decided to be mongoloids as usual

trying to use that aoe buff to clear puddles

not debuff x D

[lusty grotto]

wtf lmao

[still pagoda]

as for saying that if u stand in africa we'll have nowhere to run
@steep bone

The guy is from my former realm

shame

[chrome jacinth]

any quick pro tips for liggy mythic ?

[strong forum]

use defensives/lps for 2nd beam 👍

[sweet summit]

dont die 👍

[steep bone]

pulling last boss in 30s

[still pagoda]

👍

[orchid frigate]

looks like theres plenty of time 🙂

[strong forum]

na

thats a deplete

[steep bone]

wiped :>?

[vocal skiff]

are you doing an obelisk with boss

[still pagoda]

it's a +17

i did +19 2-chest with fear pillar on tyr week

[lusty grotto]

hey cmon

no need to flex

[vocal skiff]

Yeah, people time 25s with an obelisk. Point being, if he's tried 7 times and people fail at the same juncture, maybe go safe

Even if it's awful to do that pillar

[still pagoda]

finally

my scuffed MW is not scuffed anymore

[steep bone]

healer died while falling to boss room, lul

[slender nova]

Hey, would anyone in EU be kind enough to run my warrior through a 5 mask? 🙂

[strong forum]

vivv i was joking bout the deplete

no need to actually follow through with that just to avoid making me a liar monkaS

[warm plinth]

😂

[still pagoda]

robbing the alt run

@mellow patio

[steep bone]

ok we TIMED it bois

[lusty grotto]

gz gz

[still pagoda]

kek

[sweet summit]

F

[steep bone]

im tilted

[still pagoda]

F

F for Vivv's sanity

[steep bone]

people understood how to do that puddle thingy

btw thanks for tip from dropping it to where we came from instead towards wall

apparently i cannot do a shit as pugs doesnt cooperate ❤️

[sweet summit]

do you need a helping hand?

[still pagoda]

i can heal

[steep bone]

17-18 ur

[still pagoda]

[sweet summit]

ill dps

[still pagoda]

Kazzakian pride

[steep bone]

that i'd love to time:<

[still pagoda]

but i'm in alt run rn

[ionic fern]

I can only tank. 😦

[steep bone]

i wanna tank score thou :<

[sweet summit]

alliance 👉 🚪