i guess you could say 4, but left side 6 pack doesnt really hurt
#protection
proven stream
still pagoda
i'm thinking of CnS not because of saurids and stuff. But because of jugg packs and high probability of oneshots coming into few RDPS that are not careful
just snap em indeed
proven stream
cns for the vers not the root
still pagoda
though people should know of the "snap" point on first pull
strong forum
thing is, theres 4 scary pulls in AD + rezan
strong forum
and if youre not running 6x Vers3, the cns major isnt all that massive in terms of vers
sweet summit
And thats the 4 pulls that are not saurids
sweet summit
Its niche
proven stream
every clap doubles the value of strife
sweet summit
A lot of vers
sick sentinel
well its niche isnt vers
sweet summit
And a root
sick sentinel
because aegis owns
strong forum
the niche is vers, aegis is dog
still pagoda
guess i'm doing this then
sick sentinel
i love aegis.
sick sentinel
either way i don't see cns high value here :x
proven stream
ok well the routes make sense why youre not afraid of saurids
i do a 15 saurid and 2x 10 saurids
sweet summit
Always lucid
I cant not have lucid either major or minor
Same ded
Dad
Oops
But its not that bad tho
still pagoda
time for giga-snaps
sweet summit
Im not sold on cns major outside of like junkyard
sick sentinel
huge
sweet summit
Any bracers
lusty grotto
yeah one went to a 450 ilvl mage i carried
sweet summit
Oh
sweet summit
proven stream
if you run full vers amp + 2xIT conflict major is 919 vers basically as long as you can proc the root
proven stream
ya you certainly dont need it but its just giga raw stats
bold plover
Question can you get Middle obelisk in atal without sacrificing someone or invisible
still pagoda
no
strong forum
nop
still pagoda
but i already have rogue for our partial premade for tomorrow
so...
not a problem
bold plover
what if
still pagoda
oh
still pagoda
i maybe know who i can poach
strong forum
thats never gonna work
strong forum
more than 1 fire mage is just bad
still pagoda
Are you here?
bold plover
is stacking more than one spec in a dungeon ever good?
strong forum
cuz youd have to delay combusts a shitton and play every single pull around combust to not have 3x combust on the same pack and then 0 dmg for 2minutes
3x BM can work
3x rogue, 3x DH
sweet summit
Hi
strong forum
its not good, but not even close to being as bad as 3x mage
still pagoda
we wiped 29 times on raden today and didn't get a reclear
but well
it's sunday
right after ilgy prog kill
lusty grotto
reminder that mages can also pull and block -> invis
lusty grotto
hunters and rogues obviously
sweet summit
Reminder that mages are not people
strong forum
facts 👏
lusty grotto
you're right, magechip is a beautiful attack helicopter
without any missiles cause no workshop bracer
still pagoda
facts 👏 [2]
strong forum
an attack helicopter without bracers
lusty grotto
high five guys
still pagoda
an attack helicopter without ATGM's
sweet summit
HANDS UP
lusty grotto
sweet summit
strong forum
1-2 weeks and youve surpassed me in score
still pagoda
if everything goes good and i will be able to poach one DPS from the guild and get another pug, it will be a timer
lusty grotto
get errr dun
sweet summit
lusty grotto
still pagoda
bold plover
das y im yellow
@strong forum Ah yes. Except most of the stormforged are sperg sin that hidden chat
😂
strong forum
shush dont tell em
bold plover
#MakeGilneasStormforged
still pagoda
sweet summit
Who
still pagoda
WHOM?!
sweet summit
NA omegalul?
sweet summit
I believe
still pagoda
Pieces will win
@sweet summit
FSY*
strong forum
serenity 2.0
still pagoda
let the non-dayraiding guild win
still pagoda
FatSharkYes
World 4th Nya and the only guild in top 10 that doesn't day-raid
and also the Kazzakian ambassadors at that point
sweet summit
<WE GO AGAIN> WILL CLAIM THE THRONE 😂
still pagoda
bold plover
oh wait I think I remember them from ABT
best balance Druid in the game was in that guild right
Or am I misthinjinf
because it obviously wasn’t lorgok
sweet summit
I fall down
strong forum
Ya that's what I'm hoping for
still pagoda
anyway gonna get onto cara prog next week
junior ivy
sick sentinel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5AkIfgioA4 I got a ring in there last night. Drop your pants? funny shit
lusty grotto
😢
why do i do this
its like bdsm kind of
truly a masochist
😢
i was like okay a couple of people got loot
nows my time
sick sentinel
if it makes you feel any better i have the nature damage proc one and then the "atacking while behind one"
y'know, for tanks
lusty grotto
😢
i need that wolverine meme with the bracers in it
im only spamming 11-13 on my mage
for 460
did a few 10s yesterday
cause fuck it ill take the 455s
but i gotta be honest
i prefer keys with awakened
so id rather not go down below 10s
modern brook
Nim just doesnt even invite me anymore smh
lusty grotto
that last stretch without it, fucking sucks for the kind of groups running it
nah dude
we've been failing hard
modern brook
Oof
lusty grotto
its basically like this: wait till monday -> masstercard or keelif fuck something up -> they get mad -> key fucked because people cant concentrate
modern brook
I found out I'm allowed to use cds and my damage went up 8k overall
sick sentinel
i only did a 15 temple this week and we 2 chested it, so probably good enough for me, maybe do a 16 for a 15 key? but then again i run other peoples keys and not my own
obtuse yoke
what route have y'all been using this week for ML? I feel like i'm always barely missing %
grand drum
go to boss, kill trash behind him until 60%
lusty grotto
^
lusty grotto
ML route rarely changes tbh
modern brook
Yeah
lusty grotto
same as workshop
sick sentinel
none of the routes really change THAT much
modern brook
With obs it's pretty locked in for most
modern brook
I think wm is the only big change cause the door makes the kite an adventure
lusty grotto
depending on affixes
warm plinth
AD changes
modern brook
The specifics might
sick sentinel
i said fuck that, just get the route off raiderIO site, mass copy them to addon
modern brook
But the top down "what gets pulled" rarely does
sick sentinel
adjust as nessecary
obtuse yoke
so you just need 60% in first room before 1st boss?
modern brook
Like you dont grab all the puppies in wm wth anything else during bolster
obtuse yoke
then all goblins
warm plinth
Yeah but that's still a change in the route. Just because you kill the same things doesn't mean you don't change the order in which you kill things.
sick sentinel
yeah, because you barely pull anything towards 2nd boss and like, almost nothing towards 3rd, and the rest at/after final boss
warm plinth
And the order is the route
modern brook
That's fair I think I'm arguing semantica
sick sentinel
don't worry about the level of key you are doing, you just have to think oh, it's atal dazar, how do i pull atal? and if you fail the key find out what you did wrong
as tank you have much greater control over how the key goes than you might think
lusty grotto
yeah i just cant do anymore cause i gotta lead raids in the boomer game
and tbh im burned out on workshops
at least im getting echoes for friday
more masterful 3s 😄
bold plover
@idle needle retard come here
learn prot
come tank my keys
mans just berated me in vc
😢
olive gust
should every tank be running one of those route addons?
and where is the best place to get routes?
lusty grotto
well they dont need them if they have a 2nd monitor and can use wago
but yes
every tank needs it after a certain point (probably 10s)
or they at least need to know what is the most efficient route for their group
vague coyote
if you run them plenty of times you get use to the route and can have it memorized
olive gust
i have a second monitor, i can roiutes from somewhere? and is it called method dungeon routes?
lusty grotto
mdt is method dungeon tools
usually raider.io has a thing where they put decent routes for every week
vague coyote
renamed to mythic dungeon tools
lusty grotto
its called the weekly something idk
olive gust
thank you very much , i am super new to tanking
lusty grotto
just make sure you read the info on their yellow circled numbers and the exclamation marks by putting your mouse over them
sick sentinel
twitch app or curseforged
lusty grotto
twitch like any other addon
sick sentinel
if you link your bnet account to twitch, and turn on auto-update addons you never have to worry about updating addons manually
worst case ontario just have to reboot client.
olive gust
is it called MDT guide?
olive gust
thats the only thing that pops up
olive gust
then it shows method dungeon tools
sick sentinel
thats the one
olive gust
i did and only thing tha tpopped up was alt manager
sick sentinel
did you go to "get more addons?"
olive gust
yeah
olive gust
ahhh
warm plinth
Because Nnoggie left Method
sick sentinel
oh snap, didn't realize, then again i seen that coming a little bit with all the craziness that happened with them this weekened
olive gust
i was like "im not crazy!"
radiant path
Does anyone have any tips on how to deal with the add right before the last boss in KR?
Thats the only thing I have a problem with on my warrior
olive gust
after downloading MDT do i need anything else or no?
radiant path
Even when the healer and I split our CDs up
warm plinth
Rotate CDs/externals, and if it's not dead when you're out of CDs you run
grand drum
You cry
radiant path
Can you out run the barrage?
sick sentinel
i told some group to soak the puddles on image of zul or whatever final trash before boss in KR like you said
civic rover
for the shadow of zul you should only be using ignore pain as mitigation
sick sentinel
some mage said didnt have to, didn't do it group lose like 50% hp and mage dies lol
warm plinth
Well
Depending on where the puddle is
you don't
The damage from the puddle only has like a 15 yard range
So as long as it spawns on a ranged and they move 15 yards away, it's a non-mechanic
sick sentinel
30 yard range or something? i'll have to check that out next time in in there.
vague coyote
believe demo shout works on him
distant crystal
it does
warm plinth
If ranged stands in it, they take damage, which is not ideal because the healer needs to be spending all their effort on healing the tank (unless you have a VDH tank, then you laugh at Zul)
sick sentinel
see, going into shadowlands i'm going to have to re-learn alot of this stuff
distant crystal
if it's in melee the healer can soak it
warm plinth
Yeah, that's what we do
If it's in melee, our hpal soaks
If it's on our hunter, he just moves away
Or at range, w/e
sick sentinel
trying to do yazma +16 with all melee group makes my blood boil
scarlet copper
did anyone else notice you can now get a malefic core before your cloak is 15?
lusty grotto
yes it was put in on tuesday
scarlet copper
nice! so does it upgrade the cloak a rank level, or will it just add +3 resistance
sick sentinel
just +3 +15 lmao i wish
scarlet copper
okay cool
lusty grotto
but you can buy vision tokens with echoes so yeah
scarlet copper
now will the +3 I add now reflect my cloak when it hits 15?
warm plinth
I don't think you can add it, and they're unique so you can't buy a bunch or anything
scarlet copper
I just tried to cast it and it let me cast
warm plinth
Interesting
scarlet copper
I didn't let it finish though I'm scared lol
scarlet copper
uuuuh it just added 8
warm plinth
wat
scarlet copper
wait maybe it just increased the rnak
I forget what rank I was
WAIT
I'M AN IDIOT
lusty grotto
hmm
sharp night
there's a different core you get from turning in the quest
warm plinth
It's the core from the quest lul
lusty grotto
well if you dont log out
sharp night
below 15
lusty grotto
we can check
scarlet copper
this is a regular maleficc core form quesgt hahaha
sharp night
different name
scarlet copper
I just forgot to add it lol
warm plinth
kek
scarlet copper
I'm so dumb. disregard me and everything I stand for
sick sentinel
if you put a cooking fire down in chamber of heart, it goes away like instantly
found a bug
lusty grotto
same with the mail gnome
olive gust
anyone know if there is a video or the best way to explain how to get the first Obelisk in WCM to the triad sisters if the right doors are the only ones open?
sick sentinel
i'm engineer, so i have jeeves and molle mailbox, thinking about dumping cash into buying longboi
warm plinth
You just kite it around, through the hallway by Raal, and out to the courtyard
lusty grotto
first lust if youre not planning on giga puling
warm plinth
It's a long kite but
sick sentinel
500$ mount so i can have AH everywhere 
warm plinth
Idk. We don't do it usually but if your group struggles with sisters, better to int the key a few mins in rather than at the end
sick sentinel
i'll never get there by farming
sick sentinel
i'm just waiting on the 5 seater flying AH and mail mount personally
knowing blizzard it's coming at some point
prolly store mount too, 250 bucks
lusty grotto
lol
warm plinth
I mean, whether it goes for gold cap or not is dependent on the buyers since it would start at 20k like any mount. But I feel like the mount being purchasable now would negate that...it's unlikely someone who can afford it now is going to not buy it before it's unavailable. And I feel like the number of people who don't buy it before SL but have the gold to pay gold cap after it's BMAH-only would be pretty small
lusty grotto
thats true
warm plinth
But what do I know 🤷 Could be right. But I feel like especially on backwater realms there'd be potential to get it for cheaper than now
And could be dependent on when they put it on the BMAH. Like if it's there immediately on launch vs them waiting like 2 tiers or something could mean a large difference in price
sick sentinel
like asmongold said, anybody who has the means to buy it is going to buy it now
lusty grotto
did you quote asmongoloid
sick sentinel
not verbatim, but yeah
lusty grotto
can we get a ban going out
sick sentinel
uh
warm plinth
But why
lusty grotto
also he plays furry
which is more reason to hate
no but
seriously
i used to dislike him but he has some decent and valid thoughts on blizzard on his youtube when hes not doing his retarded persona
i just cant fucking watch him
on his regular stream i guess
civic rover
all his youtube videos look very clickbait
sick sentinel
is doing 5 mask as prot feasible or should i get fury/arms weapon?
lusty grotto
and he talks about stuff, which is okayish
sick sentinel
best i've done is 4 mask with dps and healer
sick sentinel
just didn't have the damage needed
lusty grotto
weird
i mean i used to do them without td
not carries though, of course
use the pots
they help out a ton
and spirit buffs
hard citrus
I'm sure this has probably been asked a few times, but for a prot warrior looking to push no higher than 15+ Mythics, what corruptions should I honestly be going after?
lusty grotto
TD3 IT1x2
sick sentinel
TD first, it1x2 fill with haste
grand drum
I did them as fury then prot then arms. Imo visions are easiest as arms
hard citrus
Thank you @lusty grotto and @sick sentinel
lusty grotto
np
warm plinth
I do 5 masks as prot. Alleria is about patience. If you try to rush her, you’ll die.
Just do her mechanics. You have forever to kill her.
mental anchor
still the trollest thing to this day
radiant path
Can you skip shadow of Zul? or does killing him open the boss room?
main vault
you cant skip
mental anchor
zuls not bad
warm plinth
RIP the Zul skip
radiant path
Zul is pretty bad for me haha. Just did a 16 KR and wiped on it once. Holy Paladin healer and waited for the sacrifice to end before shield walling. But once both of those were down... it hurts SOOO bad.
warm plinth
Did you use demo shout and SR as well?
warm plinth
Sounds like he lived too long tbh if you used all that
radiant path
Yeah... we were running alts through
highest dps at the end of the dungeon was 46k haha
I guess it was that
But that shit hurts so bad
We ended up timing though
warm plinth
Did you lust him
radiant path
Yeah ahha
the second time
King Dazar aint bad on fortified, so it was definitely a good call
Actually, he isn't bad in general against prot warriors
sharp night
only dangerous part is if you get a second fear/blade combo at the same time and don't have zerk rage up
tropic basalt
435 urchin better than 455 butchers block? 🤔
royal rune
how important is leech
undone sun
it's not
wheat plume
what type of battle potions should you be using in dungeons? strength or stam?
mellow patio
empowered proximity on trash unbridled fury on bosses
calm magnet
Is having low crit on prot ok for dungeons?
twilit jay
who are some good prot warrior who do m+ that i can watch on twitch?
civic rover
nerftank
warm plinth
Naowh, Nerftank
twilit jay
im trying to get into and start ltrying to push some keys
sick sentinel
mask of the long night is cancer, definitely need to practice with that one more
mellow patio
Ghash I was around Friday for the key and received no ping
What mask is long night
Is that the half sanity one
sick sentinel
that's what fucked me
pull too big,, get thrown around by fire, or disoriented into sanity crap and then 15 stacks leaded feet, so cant move out of stuff again
all my fault though, i know it
last mason
is waycrest really just complete cancer
obtuse yoke
i got DC'd from bnet and i can't reconnect
sick sentinel
waycrest outside of a couple affixes is THE easiest dungeon in the game bar none IMHO
obtuse yoke
guess im not playing
sick sentinel
5 bosses sure, but they all have 1 ability each, and the worst trash is what, some witches and a handful of matrons?
warm plinth
5 masking really isn't about speed
Long night leaves less room for error (especially combined with daredevil) but it's really not that bad
sick sentinel
have to slow right down and wait for gift on elites or stun mobs huh?
it's mostly those damn stun adds, so infuriating
distant crystal
just kick em 4head
warm plinth
Stun mobs are fine. Just kick the touch of the abyss, and on the one double pull, you just set focus on one, save kick for the focus, and stun the other if it casts before you kill it
distant crystal
focus one, fear if both casting, kick/sbolt if 1
warm plinth
Trying to rush a 5 mask is like...90% of why people fail (the other 10% being the folks who are just really bad at mechanics)
distant crystal
there was a range of cloak lvls where you kinda had to rush
15 cloaks tho ya
just go through relatively carefully
warm plinth
Yeah like...when I was trying to 5 mask on my DH at R11, you kinda had to hurry but even then I died because of trying to rush Alleria and took too much sanity damage
distant crystal
proccing gift and decided i need to pull 3 packs onto a miniboss
warm plinth
Not because I wasn't pulling enough
distant crystal
has scuffed so many vessels tho
warm plinth
Yeah, my failures have always been making an impulsive decision that I shouldn't have
Or DCing
oblique garnet
never pull anything that can grip you with big pulls tbh
i have fallen through the floor too many times due to that
serene jackal
Anyone know best (RAW STAT) corruption to stack for Prot damage? I get TD does crazy damage... but what "Raw stat amps" give best dmg? ctir haste vers mast?
Just with personal gear swaping im noticing "crit" seems to be "best" anyone else have input?
I seem to deal more dps with my fury crit amps vs my haste amps from arms... vers amps are good damage too... havent tried mastery amps yet.
warm plinth
You can sim if you’re interested in pure damage
ocean heath
last mason
So ive been doing a bunch of 19-21s just to practice, and ive been running vop, i feel rage starved a lot. Would that be remedied by swapping to lucid or at that range is it just still poor play
warm plinth
Rage starvation is poor play regardless of key level
civic rover
if you're running lucid minor you shouldn't have any issues with rage
last mason
oh i wasnt, i was running aegis cns warden
warm plinth
Lucid isn't the key to not being rage starved though
It'll give you more rage ofc but it's not like a magic thing that makes you not rage starved. If you're rage starved you're doing one of a few things (or a combination):
- Not using Avatar/Demo Shout on CD
- Mashing Ignore Pain too much
- Pressing Revenge when it's not a proc
rugged sentinel
do we have a resource online that shows some things that we can block/tricks for certain dungeons?
undone sun
#268491842637660160 has the reflectable/blockable spreadsheet, but tricks isn't really something that's tracked
rugged sentinel
Cool. just checking. some classes have their own website and sometimes that makes playing the spec/class 10x better. wnted to check
sick sentinel
@last mason don’t take “ip when you have the rage” completely literally
you lose nothing by pooling as long as you don’t set yourself up to overcap
woven venture
Merektha's fang's not a play for prot war, right?
tawny maple
@woven venture it does good damage if you set up for it
distant crystal
if you track your haste and smash it with high haste + shockwave on the mobs
it pumps
just know you can't block/dodge/parry while channeling it so
be wary of getting gibbed
woven venture
Right on, thanks
woven venture
Man I wanna get some of those numbers, lol. I'm running a TD3 but typically am only doing about 55k overall in keys in the 18-19 range.
bright jolt
i used rank 5 td with one r1 IT
ionic fern
Remember that overall DPS also depends on pull sizes/dungeon and when your TD actually procs.
normal garnet
do you have a damage breakdown from that @bright jolt
sweet summit
TD and TC :)
ionic fern
Huh?
modern brook
I honestly dont know I just space the blocks as necessary
normal garnet
making a weakaura so just want to make sure
sweet summit
Ye you get the full 12 sec afaik
wheat jasper
minus gcd, no?
sweet summit
SB isnt on the gcd?
normal garnet
if you have ample rage, Avatar, and its a large pack. Do you prioritize revenge over shield slam?
elfin siren
if I press shield block twice instantly
@normal garnet if you hit it twice, you wasted 1
steep bone
If You insta use two charges then You wont have third one in time if my math is correct
sick sentinel
I was in a shrine tonight that went sideways. I swear I’m gonna be seeing water blasts go uninterrupted in my sleep
oblique garnet
sick sentinel
steep bone
I was in a shrine tonight that went sideways. I swear I’m gonna be seeing water blasts go uninterrupted in my sleep
@sick sentinel dont pull big with pugs in shrine xd
sick sentinel
These affixes aren’t bad in groups. But man in that pug lyfe.... it’s hard on a playa in these streets
ionic fern
@steep bone what?
Why would it matter if you use SB->Wait 6 seconds->SB for a 12s duration or just use 2x SB for 12s duration?
ionic fern
And jeah, they added a "AM" cap somewhere in Legion after they noticed that monks can stack ISB up to like 5+ minutes.
😒
normal garnet
atleast you're awake now 😛
sick sentinel
Monks. 
tawdry prawn
How big is the second IT1 for prot. If I have 1 rank is that fine?
grand drum
I member doing a key with a monk that used isb once in a dungeon
sweet summit
How bad is siege this week?
stiff oracle
Siege was fine for me
normal garnet
if you have ample rage, Avatar, and its a large pack. Do you prioritize revenge over shield slam?
stiff oracle
ample?
amber siren
lots
stiff oracle
oh
normal garnet
yeah if you have shield block/ignore pain up
sweet summit
If its a large pack you might want to have IP over a bit of damage
You could do some revenges to keep DW up
stiff oracle
if its a large pack your revenge is gonna proc regardless
sweet summit
But i would not hardcast a lot of revenge
ionic fern
Jep, chanses are you will get free Revenge procs left and right in big packs.
For instant damage purposes Revenge>SS in AoE packs for obvious reasons.
Have to remember that more rage from SS = more AM reduction tho.
normal garnet
AM?
hidden plaza
Anger management
elfin siren
Is Safe to cleanse Avoidant 1, Honed Mind 3 & Surging Vitality 3 to make room for TD & IT? Heroic raids & M+ not much higher than 15s
elfin siren
Thx
idle idol
Block doesint work on ranged attacks right ?
idle idol
Idk. I rolled war a few days ago
amber siren
Yep, rock throws in particular in TD used to be a killer, you can block them now
idle idol
So u can basicly block all physical attacks ?
bright jolt
@normal garnet sorry i dont have it
idle idol
Also is ignore pain also so useless on high gear too ?
bright jolt
?
sweet summit
No its not
tame garden
amber siren
The main use of IP is to help smooth out some damage in combination with your actual defensives, which will usually be shield block and perhaps more importantly, it's off the GCD and uses rage so youre proccing anger management while doing so
ionic fern
It actually piles up to a lot of mitigated damage over the course of a dungeon since you use it so often.
amber siren
tru
sweet summit
Its cdr tho, think about that
Every time you use it avatars cooldown gets reduced by 4 seconds
Thats epic
idle idol
Might change with more gear idk
steep bone
How do I convince potential guilds that im good material for their new tank if i've no mythic tanking experience at all besides 3 pug bosses. I'm out of ideas tbh and telling them that raid tanking is easy might be actually took wrong
idle idol
Now i generaly dont have that much rage to spam it
civic rover
trial with them
steep bone
Oh I'm applying to guilds***
civic rover
in terms of raiding, there's not a lot of guilds looking for tanks and spots are limited. only way they can see if you're mythic raid material is by trial.
steep bone
as my current one can be described with worse than lfr pug experience
ionic fern
@idle idol as already stated before - IP's primary purpose is not to be some uber mitigation ability but to smooth out the damage intake on top of Shield Block. It WILL be stronger as you get more gear but it won't be anything significant. You use it to dump excessive rage.
steep bone
but actually im applying to guilds that didn't even get close to my main this xpac so dunno
steep bone
yeah progress wise
but from my exp those guilds are even more elitist in terms of picking players than actual guilds
civic rover
if you know what you're doing and you communicate with the other tank in my experience you'll have no problem getting into a guild, it just might be a while
again, most established raid teams do not need tanks, mainly because they also often times have dps that can offspec if one of the tanks cant make it
ionic fern
It can be hard to join guild as a tank unfortunately jeah.
I haven't seen any specific things that need to be done to get in tho. 👀
Unfortunately most guilds either don't know how or don't care about checking tank logs.
And then there are ofc the guilds who don't know what a tank is capable of/supposed to do and push you with the "You're a tank, why are you doing DPS?" .
😒
Try to get a chat with one of the officers and move from there.
civic rover
haha, i mainly raid mythic on brewmaster and i've been raiding with another guild since my guild has stopped progress temporarily and one of the dps was like "why is this tank running dps trinkets"
sweet summit
civic rover
almost like brewmaster naturally takes no damage or something
steep bone
I could apply as dps but ugh I dunno how to warrior
sweet summit
Press buttons
???
Execute
Win
ionic fern
I got ditched once from a guild because my co-tank diddn't know his rotation (bear btw) and was losing aggro to me 24/7. 🤷
I told them i can help him improve but no one cared.
So jeah
idle idol
Is there any specific haste % i should aim for shieldblock cd?
civic rover
thrash mangle ironfur thrash mangle ironfur
steep bone
Lol, in my current guild im outaggroing all tanks unless they hard spam taunt or i just stop pressing buttons
so from being 'second tank' i became main main tank
civic rover
but if you don't mind dpsing you might have to start out as that, fury is pretty easy to get the hang of.
sweet summit
Nah just get as much haste as possible without dropping ilvl mate
steep bone
i didn't even looked at fury guides and it feels like it's demon hunter v2
civic rover
it's demon hunter without any utility
sweet summit
Fury owns
mellow patio
Getting into guilds as a tank is also easier if you have a geared brm tbh as much as I hate to say it.
civic rover
or if you tend to play whatever tank is fotm
steep bone
Only reason i wanna m raiding as warrior is so i can have that juicy gear for dungs
sweet summit
A geared WW with brm weapon*
civic rover
in legion if you played bear you instantly got a raid spot
steep bone
brm is residentsleeper tho
mellow patio
Brm is a snooze fest
civic rover
brewmaster is pretty braindead coming from someone who plays it a lot
steep bone
tank without a shield 
civic rover
but the class fantasy is pretty sick
steep bone
you smooth damage by being drunk
civic rover
i can't imagine playing vengeance DH and trying to get into a mythic raiding guild
mellow patio
Vdh is good
sweet summit
Vdh owns
strong forum
Vdh is immortal
sweet summit
All tanks owns
steep bone
at this point in expac, is there any non good tank
mellow patio
Honestly will probably have an easier time as vdh than prot lmao
civic rover
what bosses tho
steep bone
drest?
strong forum
Drest
mellow patio
Skitra
steep bone
how do you hold aggro tho
mellow patio
I’ll try this week and let u know how it goes
civic rover
the psychus phase in nzoth if they kite enough
civic rover
better send us a video
mellow patio
I’ll just join group as vdh and casually switch to havoc and hope RL don’t notice
civic rover
lmao
sweet summit
Ask for assist
strong forum
Taunt, is how you hold aggro
strong forum
Dhs can still taunt every 8 sec for massive aggro gain
steep bone
actually 500IQ
Respec
Change role
@sweet summit
sweet summit
😎
mellow patio
That’s assuming hawgbear doesn’t answer the skitra call this week
civic rover
has anyone pugged any mythic bosses recently?
sweet summit
Yeah
civic rover
thought about pugging first three on my bear but idk how much of a shitshow it might be
mellow patio
Maut can be annoying but other than that it’s free
amber siren
civic rover
my co tank told me he joined one on his pally and saw that half of the raid didn't have any mythic exp, noped the hell out
sweet summit
Turns out shred psyche inside boss isnt very cool when you pug
mellow patio
What do you mean
That’s the raid affix
Congrats you completed your first +10 mythic raid
civic rover
nyalotha, the waking city affixes this week: tyrannical
idle idol
What is your guys shield block cd ?
mellow patio
I’ve wanted to see them play around with raid and affixes tbh
mellow patio
My Sb cd is some amount
civic rover
i'd rather they fix some M+ affixes
idle idol
Mine is 12
sweet summit
Delete bolstering
mellow patio
DELETE BOLSTERING
idle idol
Seems like a yikes to me
sweet summit
YES HAWGZ
sweet summit
They really do
mellow patio
Also delete grievous
civic rover
so many affixes just feel like no counterplay bs
mellow patio
I pugged a few today cause I was bored and 9/10 healers have a malfunction in the brain stem
sweet summit
12 sec is fine. That means you can get 3 sb casts nicely before having to use last stand
sweet summit
🎱 hmmm no
civic rover
i think sanguine is an S tier affix tho
civic rover
necrotic is neat too even though it's annoying sometimes
amber siren
Idk sanguine with the peacekeepers in ML is kinda toxic
sweet summit
Fair
mellow patio
Use knockbacks and shit before stuff dies tho
civic rover
next week is the meme week i just realized
sweet summit
I only have one knock and its on a 10 minute cd :(
mellow patio
What is next week I cba m+ at this point
sweet summit
Next week is skittish bursting tyrann or something?
civic rover
teeming volcanic
sweet summit
Oof
mellow patio
Whoa
civic rover
for NA at least
amber siren
poggies
sweet summit
Large
mellow patio
Make large pull
civic rover
with tyrannical
mellow patio
Td go brrrr
sweet summit
Thats not too bad
You can just pull a lot of trash on bosses to make up for the lost time
mellow patio
stands in volcano
civic rover
yeah and for my group that i run with volcanic is a joke
two BM hunters and an outlaw rogue, no casters
sweet summit
What does volcanic even do 😶
mellow patio
My brain is the 5th affix on volcanic weeks
Can I pay attention enough not to stand in one
Well yes and no
sweet summit
🎱 sometimes
civic rover
what do you guys think the hardest week is?
sweet summit
Some tyrannical week idk
mellow patio
Any Bolstering grievous imo
distant crystal
tyrannical bolstering
sweet summit
Bursting necrotic is only shit in atal imo
mellow patio
Saurids
civic rover
aoe go brrr
mellow patio
I say we go on strike and don’t snap saurids on necrotic bursting
Let everyone have some of the necrotic
idle idol
I should be stacking haste versa i assume
sweet summit
Cant kite to drop stacks 
Shit doesnt die at the same time
Im floorPoV
mellow patio
Haste vers/crit
sweet summit
Ilvl>haste>crit for m+
idle idol
Wont u flop on high lvls withouth versa
sweet summit
With lust and last boss temle buff, yes
mellow patio
Most cancer thing of BFA is temple on explosive don’t @ me
civic rover
the last boss
mellow patio
Yes
mellow patio
Makes the entire place unfun
sweet summit
I do t do temple on explosive weeks anymore
mellow patio
I don’t either
sweet summit
I do like temple on non explosive weeks tho
ionic fern
Temple is mucho fun as long as people don't fail first boss...which is rare.
sweet summit
Yeah...
ionic fern
Tiltes me hard when i see DPS dying with defensive CD's still unused on that boss.
steep bone
hitting wrong target be like
ionic fern
Or a rogue going to interrupt the caster boye with shield just to auto attack himself to death.
👍
sweet summit
I love when people die to lightning shield
tiny fern
whats the addon that shows the azerite trait in the character window?
sweet summit
I run with a boomkin sometimes
idle idol
Press moonfire . Dies
sweet summit
And he just dies to wrath traveltime causing lightning shield damage every time
Not even moonfire
Just solar wrath or whatever
ionic fern
Just dumdum casting.
idle idol
Just bark 4head
sweet summit
Yeah, its hard to stop dps :^)
ionic fern
DoT's don't damage you if you apply them BEFORE the shield goes on iirc.
sweet summit
Yep
ionic fern
I wonder how many people have accidentally one shot themselves with badly aimed TD's on that boss.
sweet summit
TD doesnt damage you
ionic fern
Mindcontrol boss.
sweet summit
Yeah
ionic fern
sweet summit
ionic fern
Actively avoiding any grinds *
mellow patio
My sole source of AP at this point is raid
ionic fern
Mine's..weekly chest.
mellow patio
And my one box every week
tiny fern
@sick sentinel thats it, thanks!
knotty fiber
I'm still levelling my warr, is SB eventually something you want to have a 100% uptime with, similar to ironfur for druids?
ionic fern
You can't have 100% up time on SB.
You want to have it up as often as possible when actively tanking enemies tho.
knotty fiber
Got it, I wasn't sure if it eventually became possible with enough haste or something
ionic fern
And fill downtime with other CD's like Last Stand (with Bolster)/DS/SW etc.
ionic fern
Depends - On - The - Haste.
if you want to have 8 second CD on SB you'd need like 90% haste.
Most people sit around 25% without ITF stacks.
So realistically you will end up having anywhere between 30-40% haste. Which means your SB CD will be roughly 11-12 seconds.
sullen valve
?
ionic fern
?
ionic fern
Y u bully. I'm doing napkin math right now mwkay?
sullen valve
but this math is easy
distant crystal
i think 100% counts as "like 90%" tbh
sullen valve
8 = 16 / (1+x)
idle idol
Thought sb was 15
sullen valve
Imagine not just knowing how to do math
ionic fern
Imagine playing MW.
sullen valve
ionic fern
😂
sullen valve
I won't get you alpha logs now
idle idol
Imagine playing a moonkin
sullen valve
That tho
normal garnet
anyone use Merektha's Fang?
still pagoda
Meme trinket
normal garnet
bro i get my head ripped off when I try to use it lmao
still pagoda
You can't block during it
ionic fern
@sullen valve on EU when.
normal garnet
that's what I've been trying to do
normal garnet
#1 dude in world had it equipped.. prob trolling I'm guessing? lol
sullen valve
😏 I might be ON not EU but i'll be IN EU
ionic fern
strong forum
Panthea back on here 👀
strong forum
Thought he did ah well
sullen valve
Panthea always judging mainly mwahi's math skills
strong forum
Tru
ionic fern
Woah.
Who baked you your lions breakfast today?
versed hull
yo guys, noob question - seeing as prot kinda has a lot going on , is there any real downside to keybinding my shieldslam and devastate together for M+?
so it uses shieldslam if its up else deva?
still pagoda
Everyone's always judging lack of math in this chat
versed hull
swifty oneshot macro style 👀
strong forum
Na that's not a good idea cuz devastate is literally your least priority
modern brook
Well for starters you cant do thay
still pagoda
There's really no point in doing so
versed hull
if its not possible then theres no arguement)) but I can see some benefit if it actually worked
strong forum
It's SS>TC>revenge>deva unless you're pooling rage
modern brook
I'm like 90% sure any /cast x, /cast y macro fails if the first cast x is on cd.
Unless its cast sequence
But then you cant react to ss resets
oblique garnet
Why would you want to macro devastate and ss together in the first place
gaunt dawn
i thought the switfy 1 shot macro hit yourself?
versed hull
for the times clap is on cd
modern brook
Yeah but like you have 26+ keys
modern brook
:(
I would highly recommend keeping the rotation in it's own if possible, and moving your defensives to mouse buttons
modern brook
Also super viable tbh
versed hull
gaunt dawn
You need it on your bars in shadowlands 😡
versed hull
life is hard when u miss a nextra 4 buttons
gaunt dawn
get used to it now
modern brook
More like shadowlame
wheat jasper
swifty PepeHands
versed hull
can I get an F in the chat for swiftys pinky?
modern brook
F
lime mantle
Play VDH
steep bone
wheat jasper
oh shit.. i never knew that
lime mantle
F
idle idol
Why cant i use my emotes here
modern brook
No memes are allowed here
idle idol
Thats bs
wheat jasper
dis serious channel
idle idol
Serious lack of pepes in here
steep bone
you can always meme this way
modern brook
Oof
steep bone
they couldn't bear your memes it seems
wheat jasper
rimshot
idle idol
Ppl got aids from seeing their entire phone acreen covered by 1 photo
steep bone
just buy bigger phone 5Head
lime mantle
Yes
steep bone
imagine having junkyard with trolling mage i mean frost mage 
lime mantle
Frost mage troll
oblique garnet
No memes
idle idol
Monk dmg also garbo
steep bone
he was having hard times pressing abilities, made us wipe few times 😦
forgot to censor him actually
still pagoda
a good frost mage can output some ridiculous numbers
steep bone
good frost mage
idle idol
Yeah for 5 secondw
steep bone
frost mage on sanguine
steep bone
rooting shits 24/7 slowing so much
idle idol
Mage ignite prob does more dmg than my entire spec
steep bone
mained mage for entire bfa, as frost then i swapped at the end of uldir, was a breeze to actually play fire
steep bone
and they don't even bother to swap that more slow talent to something like idk rop
idle idol
Have u tried not taking them
steep bone
i mean rof
cold delta
As it stands right now im trying to get tank trinket from nzoth and then wrath trinket.
Is the another trinket that might be better in terms of m+?
hushed cobalt
Need to be top damage in junkyard as prot, no ceptions
cold delta
Instead of wrat? Or the nzoth?
sweet summit
Depends
cold delta
Guess i shouldnt have given it away to a guildly then lol xD
hushed cobalt
I like goreblock+vita cause rezans exists right before the ilvl gets raised
sweet summit
Vita+shell if youre a beta like me
cold delta
@sweet summit of course it does depend on a lot of things but I was just wondering if there was something i didnt know xD
hushed cobalt
455socket+leech prism please
sweet summit
I beg