maan i told fmage to save comb cuz ima go 3 pack
#protection
steep bone
still pagoda
👍
still pagoda
xD
steep bone
and his weak aura is telling me that he's using 2 on use trinkets
still pagoda
steep bone
thats why im avoiding mages for low keys
distant crystal
just tell them you're here to help them acquire overall
no fonting until you tell them to
@flat jackal you should do that for me rn leggo
pastel sleet
thoughts on expedient vs ineffible to fill?
distant crystal
i think 2x exped 1 is p juicy
still pagoda
IT1 will win over everything
but if you don't have 2xIT1, then you can run expedients to fill in
flat jackal
@distant crystal ???
distant crystal
i see you trying to find keys 
royal rune
can someone help me figure out where the dps difference is here:
my guildie died for about 15-20 secs
and still did more dps
but we're pretty similarly geared
distant crystal
sir this is #protection
royal rune
ohoh sorry
civic holly
anyone have the link for blockable boss damage for dungeons and what not?
spell reflectable
lusty grotto
@exotic spoke wru i need help
sacred nexus
civic holly
ty
lusty grotto
hey
what are your experiences with mythic maut
some groups just straight up feed adds if dps is good yeah?
regal saddle
Yea
lusty grotto
no mana draining on pools and shit?
okay now for the real question
what the fuck is phase 3
these chinese or brazilian people keep saying phase 3
to quote 'fase 3'
kind spindle
At what key level do you have to start pulling more aggressively to time? I'm 1 away from keystone master and have timed two 16s. But my biggest weakness is being scared to pull too big. Pug'ing 90% of my runs didn't help with this though..
lusty grotto
i think they are BR
sacred nexus
do they mean 3rd phase 1 rotation?
lusty grotto
i have no clue
strong forum
@kind spindle 22s maybe.
lusty grotto
but i guess they expected to not feed adds on it?
strong forum
But before that you can just do safe pulls all the way
Tbh
And even then still +2 keys
lusty grotto
can you explain what you mean by 3rd phase 1 rotation?
lusty grotto
yeah i dont get it nome
sacred nexus
phase 1 has adds, phase 2 is shield, then back to phase 1 (2nd rotation), then shield (2nd rotation), then phase 1 (3rd rotation) etch
lusty grotto
ok so
you just wanna hold adds at that point ?
so he doesnt go into shield again?
strong forum
Typically he should be dead after first shield
sacred nexus
if you have good dps, you can do that after 1st shield
lusty grotto
ok so only if you hit that 3rd cycle
you wanna hold adds?
otherwise just feed right?
sacred nexus
yep, hold all adds on 3rd rotation, dont feed them in, just hold them all in a puddle for maximum uptime on boss
lusty grotto
or depending on hp?
kind spindle
@strong forum cool thanks
lusty grotto
well i put the adds on a pool and shit exploded
strong forum
Well that's annihilation cast prolly
That's his regular mechanic, or you didn't get dispelled
lusty grotto
so these fuckers are basically blaming everything on me
yeah i jump on a pool and get it asap if raid is leveled out
sacred nexus
got logs of the wipe?
strong forum
It's easy to blame the tank on Maut
still pagoda
^
lusty grotto
nah it was just a pug shit, well i guess i could hav eone
radiant path
If you spell reflect a blockable attack... Does it reflect the full damage or only what wasn't mitigated?
lusty grotto
for spells reflected its full damage
lusty grotto
but yes nome is right
strong forum
if you however mean reflecting a spell it typically does reflect
still pagoda
I just want to kill this boss and go on to Cara and N'Zoth now
radiant path
Oh yeah, I meant spell. Sorry haha
exotic spoke
@lusty grotto what’s up qtpie. I’m cooking dinner
radiant path
Ohhhhh, it does say Deflect
lusty grotto
right for that one xanesh its a deflect
doesnt do damage
i think baldyl0cks helped me out riki
but lets see if i have logs
fucking healed maut easily on my alt pally
i feel like it was more of a lost in translation issue
sacred nexus
huehuehue
still pagoda
meanwhile i started topping logs on our server
this technically means that amount of prot warrs on Kazzak is really low
sacred nexus
nyalotha hasn't been favorable for prot warriors.... my guild is currently progression on mythic with 2x prot warriors :S
still pagoda
we're progressing with BDK and prot warrior
me on prot warrior as a new trial technically
still pagoda
it is BIG
lusty grotto
faster
steep bone
POG
lusty grotto
ok which one did i fuck up https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/WQP9VqKbx6f3CTGz/ @strong forum @sacred nexus
lusty grotto
im guessing #2
still pagoda
lusty grotto
cause i taunted add thinking we would swap so i could reset stacks
steep bone
karton, you on nzoth yet?
lusty grotto
i dont understand karton
steep bone
how it is as prot because on hc he's rapperino
sacred nexus
@lusty grotto your 2nd and 3rd attempt, the blowup that killed the whole raid is 'The Master's Gaze', its the enrage timer because you went to 3rd shield phase. It just wipes the raid
lusty grotto
Ah
why were they saying not to put adds on pools WTF?
they made it sound like it fucking wiped the raid
lusty grotto
so none of this was my fucking fault
steep bone
maan i memberprogressin as fire mage, we had paladins saccing me
lusty grotto
they just sucked dick on dps
sacred nexus
they were wrong about the adds Nimchimp, if you make it to the 3rd phase1, keep all adds in the puddle so they don't get eaten by the boss (and push up his mana), and all DPS focus boss to kill before next shield
steep bone
besides feeding him adds if no need to
still pagoda
@steep bone man. I really see few guilds here on Kazzak that search for a tank
https://www.wowprogress.com/pve/eu/kazzak?faction=&raids_week=&lang=en&class=warrior&spec=protection
lusty grotto
i should have just done the standard drain to 60% mana shit
meager night
Is there a sweet spot for how much haste we should have unbuffed before stacking crit for mythic +?
Unbuffed*
meager night
Lol I was looking at icy veins and that’s what it says
lusty grotto
there is no such thing as too much haste
lusty grotto
sure until you hit 23s
meager night
Ok
lusty grotto
then you go haste versa
distant crystal
p much, try not to sac armor/total stats too much
lusty grotto
23+ only
meager night
Got it
And is stacking twilight dev + 1-2 ineffabble truth the way to go for mythics up to 20?
lusty grotto
ya
meager night
Cool, ty
lusty grotto
by 20s you should know where to not fuck up, everything should be manageable without versatile
any extra versa as a stat is good though
meager night
I don’t really do more than 15’s, maybe 16 to 17
meager night
Sweet, thanks
ocean kernel
slightly confused as well. Why does icyveins say to stack haste/crit when all the top guys are doing haste/vers
rigid sinew
because at high enough levels u are prone to one shots and such even with perfect play
so vers removes/reduces that chance
“chance”
ocean kernel
is there a resource on how to build a prot warrior for the higher levels of play
rigid sinew
whats ur idea of higher levels
ocean kernel
I see some guys running conflict and strife and others warden
rigid sinew
theres links in the pins for most things, prob best to check those all out
lusty grotto
icy veins isnt really written with super high keys in mind
its for the average tank
crit is good because more deeps and parry
ocean kernel
I get it
how much dps would I lose out on building haste/vers compared to haste/crit
lusty grotto
you would have to sim
ocean kernel
is it a bad idea to just go towards haste/vers instead of haste/crit
lusty grotto
there's no way to give you a straight answer cause youre not including corruptions etc
not at all
you can go either pretty much, or both
ocean kernel
I feel like that's the safer move
I feel like haste/verse might just be better cause then you could really do some giant pulls
lusty grotto
not quite
just gearing haste vers doesnt do much
you need a lot of versatile IIIs
ocean kernel
yeah I've seen that on all the top guys
lusty grotto
the reason its so good now its because of the corruption
rigid sinew
in short
ocean kernel
haste corruptions galore
rigid sinew
dont think about stacking vers until around +24 keys
lusty grotto
^
dont think about stacking vers until around +23 or 24 keys and if you don't have a shitton of versatile corruptions
ocean kernel
thanks for the info
lusty grotto
expedient isnt really stacked either
those are arms warriors
use IT and TD until you hit those keys
and have acquired a lot of versatile corruptions
you can aim for 2x IT1 1x TD3 1x Expedient3
until 23s or 24s
ocean kernel
tbh I'm kinda far out
rigid sinew
to put it in perspective
lusty grotto
its deffo a complicated system
but as a rule of thumb, just gearing haste versa wont do much
ocean kernel
I tanked a 15 with 444 iLvl lol
so just focused in ilvl for now
but want to know go down the right path
lusty grotto
right
as you should be
dont bother looking ahead if youre not gonna get there though
23s and 24s are a long ways off
a lot of echoes
ocean kernel
yeah
lusty grotto
and a lot of haste/versa farming
im not saying you cant do it
anyone can
but its a long ways off
baby steps and 1 step at a time 😉
still pagoda
And is stacking twilight dev + 1-2 ineffabble truth the way to go for mythics up to 20?
@meager night
even up to 23-24
depends on whether you're comfortable or not
ocean kernel
I'll look into td then
my account is linked with my brothers so he might have it already
cunning kraken
475 bandages vs 470 nzoth trinket for m+?
distant crystal
delete bandages
cunning kraken
how come
distant crystal
cause nzoth trinket > all for defensive trinks
lusty grotto
bandages was bad even before nzoth trinket came out lmao
not nearly as bad as 
but pretty close
cunning kraken
how though? looking at the math is seems stronger
distant crystal
note the cooldown on n'zoth trinket
distant crystal
that might be where you're getting mixed up
cunning kraken
nzoth is 60 seconds
bandages is 90
and bandages absorb is exactly 50% more
so hps wise theyre the same
tame garden
short cd is what makes lps so nice
distant crystal
except when fighting an obelisk or the last boss in M+
where it's considered nyalotha and you get a bigger shield
cunning kraken
oh really, wasnt aware of that
so the last boss is considered nyalotha even with zero obelisks?
distant crystal
ye
cunning kraken
sweet ty for info
distant crystal
and in general the shorter cd makes it much better even with equal budget
ocean kernel
1 last thing since I'm skeptical of icy veins.
What should I be focusing on for essences
lusty grotto
icy veins should be correct on essences
ocean kernel
kk
is conflict and strife used for all affixes or only certain weeks where kiting is more important
lusty grotto
if you have questions about icy veins
@ionic fern is the writer
hes a mod here
he also wrote the APL for simcraft
ocean kernel
it's very well written
lusty grotto
he knows a shitton, so yes Icy veins is legit
ocean kernel
just wondering since it doesn't really match up with the top rated io guys
but I understand they're playing a differen't game
ocean kernel
so for arms/fury are people using totally different sets with diff corruptions
ocean kernel
so without corruptions were people using the same gear?
distant crystal
they always had different stat prios
ocean kernel
i see
that's not as big of a deal
prob is the corruptions cause it seems to take some effort to get them
just gear farming for the different stats at that point if you take out the corruptions
scarlet copper
what do you guys think of killing Skorn in shrine this week?
solemn venture
I don’t think he’s worth it imho. Not a dead run if u do pull him
still pagoda
@bold plover Maybe not...
swift sail
Do you guys ever change to arms or fury for any reason or just stay in prot the whole time? As I’m gearing up my tank, should i be aiming for TD corruptions?
lusty grotto
😡
warm plinth
Yeah
lusty grotto
brandon y u gotta do dis
still pagoda
😳
vapid sage
question
dwarfs and stoneform off bleeds and stuff like necrotic which makes them handy for tanks
does the Dark Iron version work similarly?
lusty grotto
yes
vapid sage
so its literally just normal stoneform, + some strength
unreal parrot
Yeah
lusty grotto
correct
unreal parrot
regular stoneform heals you tho, I think?/
I don't remember but it's not a strict upgrade, they're slightly different but equivalent
vapid sage
ahh ok
lusty grotto
stoneform makes you tankier kind of
vapid sage
i know Stoneform used to buff armor i think
lusty grotto
doesnt heal you
vapid sage
but idr if it still does
sweet hearth
stoneform reduces all damage taken by 10% for 8 sec apparently
vapid sage
ahh
ahh
so it seems base Dwarf is slightly mroe defensive and DI is more offensive
granted its slim enough not to matter
but i was just wondering how it worked
sweet hearth
Vulpera or bust
vapid sage
lol
im alliance so cant
wait how tf does this work
Choose a place in the world and make it your camp
wtf
warm plinth
They have a spell called Make Camp which works basically anywhere outdoors
sweet hearth
yeah anywhere
vapid sage
thats crazy
warm plinth
And then they have a separate spell called Return to Camp
With 1 hour CD that returns you where you last made camp
I think it's 1 hour anyway. Going off memory
sweet hearth
can use it to camp at dungeon entrance so a super quick spec swap in m+
not that i ever have or ever will do that
sweet hearth
small heal or small ranged single target damage, it's negligible, but i love it now im trying out prot for pulling, it's 40 yard range
vapid sage
ahh nicee
sweet hearth
the heal can be enough to save people sometimes
it does cost a gcd though
biggest benefit of vulpera? you're cute af
sweet hearth
never used it so can't help with that sorry
vapid sage
also ima be real with you guys
im lowkey bitter we didnt get the sneks
the sneks are so cool
warm plinth
Yeah mole machine is fixed locations
vapid sage
oh i just looked it up
jesus you can really get around with that thing
oh wait
you gotta run around and discover them
apparently?
warm plinth
Mmhm
vapid sage
what are they doing? @sick sentinel
sick sentinel
push back and cower, rather than flee fear
vapid sage
Ohhh
the change to Menace
i thought you meant they were doing something baseline
but yeah, menace change seems great
how far is the knockback?
sick sentinel
that intimidating shout flee has scewed me over too many times send a dude total wrong direction
vapid sage
isnt there already a glyph to make them stand in place?
sick sentinel
and an azerite so they slow, but it doesn't matter still happens haha
vapid sage
haha
analog hinge
Just having a quick question about prot warrior
what set up would you aim for to be able to do big pulls and virtually take no damage?
Ive been seeing people from perplexed and method playing prot and doing huge group pulls and seemingly taking no damage at all and want to know what build they urn to achieve that
bold plover
HMT gang gang
deep steppe
Goblin Gang
vapid sage
:deepconcern:
deep steppe
sand turret
finite spire
For raids could I use lucid in place of conflict and strife since I don't have CoS? minor
lone folio
For m+, what traits should I use besides 3 bastion and 1 DC?
mellow patio
Clockwork heart, meticulous scheming, or heart of darkness
lone folio
Thx
bold plover
how useful is that charge anywya
@vapid sage in all honesty? It can be used in a multiple of ways
In raids, M+ and PvP
If not using for chain CC you can just use it as a movement ability to get out of a mechanic or get somewhere fast to catch a mechanic or soak for instance
I kinda like it, perrsonally not a fan of the belf racial since its rework iirc.
vapid sage
ahh
nice
I'm think im pretty sold on DI Dwarf but trying to decide between male and female, idrk how the melee animation are for female tho
still pagoda
The more i see some random people saying "you should stack vers" in my DMs or in disc, the more i just want to start blacklisting everyone i don't know 
sick sentinel
I still don't get why people are asking you
still pagoda
Like
Vers is irrelevant in the content i do at the moment
Which is +20-21 keys and mythic prog
And some random BrM on PoS rolls into a discussion of small off-topic thing of tank spec gearing with words " you're fucking your raid by not stacking vers since you can't deal with incoming damage and mechanics at the same time"
Honestly, i'll make a huge post once i get my CE
sick sentinel
Why would you ever do that
People did Mythic N'zoth in world pushes with 10x worse gear
and no vers
;thi
still pagoda
Exactly
sick sentinel
🤔
still pagoda
And I don't struggle with any damage as a prot
Since damage in mythic is a joke
Especially phys against 2 layers of block and armor respectively
Really, i think i'll make a big post regarding vers question in current raiding tier once i get CE
Since just constantly seeing people not understanding what it takes to stack amount of it that will actually matter in raids(and it still won't) is immense
junior pebble
Is it worth running conflict major for like 18/19s
sick sentinel
if you are already stacking vers % sure
otherwise theres no point
just play lucid
still pagoda
Or VoP
18/19 is that one smallish bracket where there's a thin line between them
Since you don't really need full control of lucid(though it becomes nuts on big pulls starting from these keys), but don't want much RNG like with VoP either
So it comes down to personal preference and learning curve
sick sentinel
I think lucid better no matter what
people who struggle with 15/16 and etc
lucid will help
just like lucid helps with 24s/25s
same difference
steep bone
How easy is 5mask in sw compared to orgri?
scarlet copper
any recommendation for a good plater profile? if I look on wago there's "Plater Profile for M+ Users 0501" which has the most stars, anyone tried that?
scarlet copper
just something good for M+. I find that the Elvui is super spazzy. The nameplates float all over the place during a pack
undone sun
elvui can be quite good, it's just depending on how you use it
scarlet copper
also I feel like I never see victory rush in streamers' UI. how do they know when to useit?
undone sun
it's not really an essential ability, getting a killing blow for free procs isn't common
steep bone
if you want i can give you my string
and for victory rush, well you can just track buff with weak aura like i do
scarlet copper
gotcha, and actually this looks pretty similar to the plater profile I just found. I'll try it and see how I like it
thank you!!
steep bone
i don't remember from where i have mine but i modified it countless times already
sand river
Hey can you have TOO much haste as prot?
undone sun
yes, but it's not reachable
steep bone
haste is love
analog zinc
steep bone
Why do You have healer ui as a tank 
wooden radish
@exotic spoke are you in vision on sarg ?
exotic spoke
Dotty is awesome - probably the best tank I've ever played with
wooden radish
i see
exotic spoke
She's good people
steep bone
@analog zinc just bind profile to right toons/specs and they swap auto
warm plinth
@wooden radish 👋
distant crystal
wait are y'all talking about dottyfu
wooden radish
@warm plinth hello Pink Donny
warm plinth
I appreciate you spelling my childhood nickname properly
wooden radish
🙂
exotic spoke
Mwahi - Your cat is out of control
warm plinth
The happiest news of my life will be "Guys, Ravager is the play"
bitter cape
Hello warrior frenz
lime mantle
If ravager is good I’ll break my legs and play BDK
icy harness
Hello Springfield
steep bone
hello @bitter cape
bitter cape
I was going to ask a question but then I found the answer in the pins ya'll so nice and neat in this disc
steep bone
idd, check dh discord for change, full of cancer
icy harness
suits the class
bitter cape
Druid discords pretty okay but definitely not as clean as these google docs lol
lime mantle
Misery is part of VDH so 🤷
steep bone
back in legion days i remember wlock discord as cool one
well i keep forgetting what ess to play in visions, remind me please
sick sentinel
Lock discord is probably the best discord
sick sentinel
what keys should a 460 prot be able to do?
think my stats are pretty bad rn but i hav around 20% haste and 30% crit
and the hotifx went through?
warm plinth
Yeah hotfix went through
sick sentinel
should i be able to do around +15 or will i take too much dmg
warm plinth
How's your shield
steep bone
literally no way to dps her ever
warm plinth
First, darkened sky does not leave anything on the ground
steep bone
and if so shes standing in gunk
warm plinth
So you literally just move, then move back
It's easy to think you have to run away and relocate when that happens, but you don't
steep bone
im concerned more about the eye
no way to position myself to not get constantly drained
warm plinth
The eye you just have to play with. You can cheese it most of the time by standing perpendicular to her
steep bone
what about all that fire in the middle tho
warm plinth
You need to kick the bombs away when you're in the middle
But avoid them if you're on the side
steep bone
i was pretty fine until i got to the point where i just spell reflected something other than poly and got polied in the middle of shit so i ended up with 65 sanity
main vault
Kick them to the outside edges
main vault
...
main vault
You know the first boss in the left
steep bone
dwarven ye
main vault
That she gets the bombs from?
main vault
They have been kickable since then
warm plinth
But yeah she kicks them away from her as kind of a hint
When you start the dwarven boss
But I never noticed it because I always just hit the plunger and ran in
steep bone
well dwarf guy is dying within seconds usually so im not bothered by boms
main vault
But yeah easiest way it to kick them to the edge, and stack them if you can
warm plinth
But yeah kick the bombs if they're in the center and leave them if they're on the outside edges so that you don't have fire all over the middle
steep bone
but that bitch refuses to reposition
main vault
You can los her to reposition
warm plinth
You don't need to reposition her if you don't have fire in the middle
warm plinth
She does it every so often
main vault
She does it every bit
steep bone
yeah ill just wait until orgri is back
main vault
Not too often
warm plinth
Like every 30 seconds or something if I were to guess, maybe longer
steep bone
its too tilting
main vault
She basically drops bombs once per void cycle
warm plinth
But yeah if you do have to LoS, just assume she's going to do Darkened Sky and Polymorph
main vault
Ish
warm plinth
Have SR ready for those polys, and move from DS only enough to not be in the swirls
And she should move to you
steep bone
thing is that sr reflected something else than poly
i think i had eye >.<
anything that i can ignore?
warm plinth
AFAIK the only thing you can reflect on that fight besides poly is maybe corruptions
warm plinth
Well yeah I just meant if he's trying to reposition her
It's better to stay LoS and just reflect
main vault
Yeah just saying if it “failed”
steep bone
i got tricked by poly because i tried to los it once
warm plinth
Right
warm plinth
Yeah it's kinda dumb you can't LoS it, but you can't LoS Umbric's either so
Poly shouldn't be a big concern for your sanity though
Worst case you get like 18 sanity loss from burned bridge and maybe a hit from her eye if you're unlucky
steep bone
unless you have eye draining you for that polied time
warm plinth
Yeah but you change facing the entire time so it's unlikely you'd just be facing the eye the entire time
steep bone
so all that you're saying makes me wait for orgri and do it easy peasy tbh
warm plinth
The easiest way to fail Stormwind is to rush
Alleria is a fight that requires patience
steep bone
only thing i rushed was dwarven district tbh
warm plinth
Every bit of sanity damage on that fight is avoidable. Just take your time, pick your moments, and whittle her down
steep bone
sucks tho as i procedd cheat death in mage's district
warm plinth
Make sure any gift procs you get, you stand and beat her up for 20 seconds
main vault
Yeah you actually have forever to kill her
steep bone
as i got debuffed few times and i died lul
warm plinth
Nothing does enough damage to hurt you
main vault
Lemme guess
warm plinth
Just use it to blast
main vault
You pulled the Bounded with other mobs
warm plinth
I hate that miniboss but honestly have not had much issue with it on my warrior
steep bone
na i was greedy and pulled some mobs on top of portal master
warm plinth
Nice with everything having less HP
steep bone
procced gift right after that elite died
steep bone
but my luck is to proc TD while im charging something or proccing it on one 200k hp mob and then never proccing again
naa itake him with portal on the left
so any sanity i lose im getting back to full after hes ded
but those void buffets or whatever that stacks 100-200-300% dmg taken from shadow or whatever that was is nasty
anyway wish me luck
warm plinth
Yeah why would you pull him with an elemental; that's suicide
steep bone
imagine proccing gift while you're doding your fear thingys and you run into one because you got speed buffed. yep im not doing 5mask in sw literally wasting time
icy harness
bruh
radiant path
So... I have a question. When I watch Naowh, he sometimes end a trash pack with his hps around 70k. Does his details also take into account his blocked damage? Because I’m looking at how ignore pains, and his hps go up even when he doesn’t have an ignore pain up
My hps details meter doesn’t show blocked damage.
radiant path
Oh really??
lusty grotto
leech is kind of a meme here but he uses it
radiant path
Holy shit. It’s insane how much he heals for.
radiant path
I know that some is over healing
lusty grotto
like azerite traits etc
radiant path
But wow
radiant path
I’ll have to go look at that for sure. Thanks!
lusty grotto
here you go
its IP for the most part
that's one from april 1st
its an old one and hes not currently using any of that anymore but that should give you an idea
again like we've said a thousand times here, none of what he does applies to people here for the most part, and if it does its to a very small number of people
obtuse yoke
like no one ever was
lusty grotto
i believe in you 🙂
stiff oracle
To catch them is my real test, to train them is my cause!
ionic fern
👀
stiff oracle
hit it, Mwahi
stiff oracle
😂
lethal vector
Alright guys, big question here... are tanks at a disadvantage if they don’t have backpedal bound?
stiff oracle
no
ionic fern
Depends.
Sometimes you have to backpedal since you can't turn your back to enemies since you can't block then.
lusty grotto
im being extra non toxic cause i have been dealing with toxic as fuck pugs the entire day
sweet summit
@icy harness sleep
buoyant walrus
466 ilvl and i feel like im still getting slapped around in +10 through +12
radiant path
Speedy, log a run and post it here. These guys are amazing at looking at them and telling you how bad you suck! 😂
steep bone
@buoyant walrus you're not using your cds don't you?
radiant path
Speaking from experience
lethal vector
But you can be turned 179 degrees and still be “facing”
buoyant walrus
lol yeah i guess ill have to log a run and see what my issue is
radiant path
I’ve improved a shit ton since joining this disc. Tanking 17’s at 470 ilvl and only 2 Tier 1 ITs haha
No TD yet
buoyant walrus
i feel like im using cds frequently but maybe just not at the right times
lusty grotto
Just strafe it ☑️
icy harness
@sweet summit i dont sleep
steep bone
you shouldnt have any issues in 10-12s with 466 imo
icy harness
im watching MTV Catfish
steep bone
so it's deffo you not using abilities
icy harness
and also @sweet summit i have a raid today at 8:15 
you want to do some dungeons before?
radiant path
Rosjen is the one that looked at my logs initially and told me how bad I am 😂
icy harness
yes
buoyant walrus
yeah i figured it should be easier with this ilvl i knew i was dropping the ball somewhere
icy harness
ros is a cutie
radiant path
His simple tips helped out a bunch.
“Dude, stop using devastate so much. Use something that builds rage” “you’re still wasting so much rage. Dump your rage! But make sure you keep 30 rage ready for shield block”
You’ll be tanking 15s in no time.
ionic fern
Jeah, definitely try to log a run and then post it - people will look at it and tell you what's wrong.
👍
icy harness
Jeah boj
radiant path
When I say they told me how bad I suck, nobody has ever been negative haha. That’s just the way I say that they’ve fixed a lot of my problems. Everyone in this discord is EXTREMELY helpful and nice.
steep bone
except for me, im toxic
sweet summit
Thats epic
lusty grotto
so this one pug
i got into with my pally just to get the core
mind you im aotc with 4 different chars
undone sun
lusty grotto
they invited me right, then said nothing and i was expected to 2 heal a 15 man wrathion
ez
icy harness
sounds reasonable
lusty grotto
except i didnt know we were doing that so i was in super corruption mode
missed a thing from beyond with hoj, rip when he was at 10%
obtuse yoke
fuck me im lucky
lusty grotto
im like so we're 2 healing?
they dont answer
we keep going
i look at my 2nd monitor on a trashpull, died to thing from beyond + aoe bolt on that big guy after door
kicked
icy harness
you're not lucky
steep bone
imagine getting kicked for dying on trash \
icy harness
:^)
lusty grotto
yeah
steep bone
but beat that, pugs are clearing nyalotha smoother than my guild
lusty grotto
and earlier today i had that shit where these dudes from a52 who i suspect are either BR or chinese couldn't explain what they wanted to do with adds and blamed all mythic maut deaths on me
so yeah its been a rough day
and people deserve non-toxic chip
obtuse yoke
@icy harness they're bad? 😦
icy harness
nah they are alright lol
steep bone
im always like that, it's unlikely you'll ever meet those guys again so if you feel like it just go ham on them
unless they're right then it's cringe
sweet summit
I think i cando a key or two @icy harness
icy harness
When?
obtuse yoke
i have 460 td 3 gloves but 460 kinda low ilvl
icy harness
until high keys
steep bone
maaan its still td
obtuse yoke
yeah i have 2 IT1s just waiting for the right gear to put them on
i also have 460 td1 gloves so mb i can run gloves + boot for TD 4
steep bone
im 470 with
obtuse yoke
im sorry 😦
steep bone
any eta on td 1-2?
lusty grotto
tuesday
steep bone
eu
lusty grotto
oh right
steep bone
well i need td2
lusty grotto
td2 this friday
steep bone
how much it's gonna cost?
lime mantle
10k
lusty grotto
10k
lime mantle
15k for t3
sweet summit
Around 5 ST
lusty grotto
yeah 50
last mason
the game down for anyone else
lusty grotto
yes it kicked everyone @last mason
obtuse yoke
i just got DC'd and cant get in
lusty grotto
NA
last mason
u able to get back in or nah
lusty grotto
dunnno im heading to bed
obtuse yoke
i've been scared to run over 39 corruption, im bad at dealing with thing from beyond
steep bone
maaan same, but then i felt kinda safe with 59
or 57 was that
just blame healer if something, always works
ionic fern
Just test it in a lower key.
obtuse yoke
i got hit by a thing from beyond when i had spirit breaker debuff on me
steep bone
happens
ionic fern
I'm also running 39 currently because:
1)I don't have solid corruptions to run more
2)If i did have solid corruptions to run more i would be too lazy to deal with TFB .
icy harness
thing is that, for prot
steep bone
wait, whats current corrupt resistance?
steep bone
oh im not that far then
icy harness
at least for prot
obtuse yoke
not even a TD?
steep bone
on low keys that damage is kinda okay to deal with
and for high ones you're going versa amps anyway
chilly brook
When you're smashing a key and blizz decided to destroy the servers...
warm plinth
You broke the game Griff
last mason
im td5 it2 and i feel fine
obtuse yoke
im at 34 i could do a td1 to be at 59
last mason
nothing does enough dmg in 22s and below to really make me afraid of a thing
steep bone
forti zul 
chilly brook
@warm plinth you know what's sad?
My DH alt is now caught up on the cloak but my main isn't
chilly brook
CR?
warm plinth
Corruption Resistance
grand drum
Callous reprisal? Kappa
chilly brook
Oh yea that's why my DH is caught up lmao
Had 14k echoes
And I'm chilling with 10 TD ranks
sweet summit
modern brook
icy harness
just kidding
chilly brook
chilly brook
I'm just gonna be like "well it looks like I have to swap mains" to my GM lmao
DH already has a significantly higher io than my monk
sweet summit
Oh shit oh fuck i can play alts now oh yeah baby lets go
steep bone
getting io as dh is
icy harness
I want a new alt
modern brook
alts arent fun in corruption meta
chilly brook
@steep bone I mean I'm tanking on my DH not DPS
lusty grotto
you shut your mouth bull
sweet summit
Yes shut up bull >:(
chilly brook
Alts are fun if you already have everything you need on your alt as far as rank 3 essences on your main
steep bone
so how legit that route looks like
lusty grotto
my pally is 3/12 mythic and my warrior only 1/12 😭
modern brook
@lusty grotto only here cause classic servers are down rn
sick sentinel
looks like a buns route
chilly brook
Looks pretty standard tbh
steep bone
anything that you'd tweak?
lusty grotto
bro i only log on classic on thursdays and sundays
modern brook
yok.
icy harness
yeah
the optimal is 100.00%
with the pack in front of the pillars, entrance to bridge
chilly brook
Pull the construct at the start that you skipped
icy harness
NEGATIVE
lusty grotto
this route is
chilly brook
At the very start hes only pulling 3 not 4
chilly brook
Pull 4
steep bone
it still goes 101
icy harness
let me make you one
lusty grotto
pull all 4
icy harness
that's 100%
sick sentinel
icy harness
hold on
lusty grotto
ez to dodge
sick sentinel
you pull all 4
chilly brook
@steep bone no drop the 5 pack before the council
steep bone
im afraid of patrol guy
chilly brook
Pick up the 2 berserker
steep bone
because pugs
lusty grotto
like KR routes are pretty standard at this point
sick sentinel
you don't do mid until you kill third boss
chilly brook
Patrol should be fine
steep bone
wait wait
chilly brook
Just use dratnos' route tbh
sick sentinel
gross
chilly brook
It's basically the same
But with the right packs
And everyone's KR is pretty much the same
sick sentinel
uh
lusty grotto
imagine dragging to bridge and then getting knocked by the arrow dude
sick sentinel
mine is 100% also
modern brook
is standard*
lusty grotto
hasnt happened to us ever
sick sentinel
and not doing all 4 constructs
lusty grotto
😄
sick sentinel
weird champ
icy harness
why would you do 4 constructs
sick sentinel
and you don't get knocked off the edge
lusty grotto
because theyre easy
icy harness
i dont get knocked off either 😔
lusty grotto
and good %
chilly brook
@icy harness why are you doing the bridge construct and not the construct that you're skipping at the start?
lusty grotto
i was being sarcastic
chilly brook
The ones at the start are so easy
icy harness
obviously
sick sentinel
you can't get knocked off from the zul bridge
icy harness
lusty grotto
alright ill get you a VoD
sick sentinel
and you skip entire pack beccause of it
modern brook
kyothi what is that first portal?
sick sentinel
slime and kick
sullen valve
Did you guys know heroic leap resets taunt
lusty grotto
yes
chilly brook
Yes
icy harness
wait what
undone sun
old news
lusty grotto
oh are we memeing mwahi?
sullen valve
When are we not
sullen valve
WOAH
ionic fern
👀
undone sun
🙊
ionic fern
😦
sick sentinel
9 IT
ionic fern
Big sad Nim, y u like this.
lusty grotto
indeed
undone sun
mwahi is kind leech advocator
sick sentinel
infinite ravager
undone sun
😑
lusty grotto
you son of a bitch
sullen valve
thats 77 to little
lusty grotto
T_T
undone sun
lusty grotto
undone sun
so much vr
sullen valve
Man
warm plinth
@ionic fern Just be HDH and do 42% of your healing from leech 4Head
sullen valve
Vr is such a good spell with leech
lusty grotto
wait youre not fooling me mwahi
sullen valve
double leech value
undone sun
what
lusty grotto
that's naowh's log i linked earlier
ionic fern
Do youy know why @undone sun ?
lusty grotto
mwahi memeing
sullen valve
vr does damage
vr heals
leech triggers off both
warm plinth
@sullen valve did you know that wowa is a useful tool to help you improve your gameplay as a prot warrior?