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still pagoda
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did weekly +20 and gone grilling and playing PoE

sweet summit
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we have a sweet 23 junkyard wating peepoHappy

lofty helm
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hi guys

still pagoda
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i'm gonna stop for next 2-3 weeks

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Exams

lofty helm
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i going atm to build my war for tanking

still pagoda
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just come up for raid nights and maybe few keys here and there

lofty helm
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anyone of u can check if i do someting wrong with the build? i can spam my raidbot link for it

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if u have time

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sorry for annoying

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my guildmate tell me to do another setup of stats and essence

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i don't know if i can do good with this, i don't tank the 20, just the 15-16-and point to 17

still pagoda
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let me look before i drop dead right on my desk

lofty helm
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thanks mate

still pagoda
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what level of keys are you doing?

lofty helm
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with the tank the 15-16

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i have build this today for it

still pagoda
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do you have any corruptions like IT1's or more TD to remove vers?

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and also

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what your friend is telling you to use?

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we need to look at this from a complete perspective

lofty helm
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yes

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i have another td on legs

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rank 1

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ok they told me to put conflict in main and perfection secondary

still pagoda
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Azerites are good, trinkets are good, vers for your keys is not needed, rings OK

lofty helm
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and pout the td 3

still pagoda
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CnS for lower keys

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you're friend is dum-dum

radiant path
still pagoda
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take TD pants if they're not abysmally low ilvl @lofty helm

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for M+ before +23-24, the stat prio is pretty easy

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corruptions(TD in particular) > ilvl > haste > crit >= verse(i prefer crit for 20's personally) > mastery

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ilvl rule is the most obvious for weapon and shield

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and doesn't work for rings

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ideally you want your highest haste rings

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i personally sit at 35-39% haste with 475 hivemind ring(heavy crit/haste) and 475 KR one(exactly like yours but IT1 instead of vers2)

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and i don't have crit gem

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haste instead

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last time i logged out with TD4+2xIT1 setup that is under 40 corruption with 10 res minor in slot

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2xIT1 is really nice if you're going to push keys farther than +15-16

sweet summit
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@radiant path Im in bed now, on mobile. Hopefully someone else can take a look as wcl on mobile is aids. If not ill go over it once i wake up tomorrow yep

radiant path
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Oh sorry. Thanks for everything!

lofty helm
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take TD pants if they're not abysmally low ilvl @lofty helm
@still pagoda thanka mate

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appreciate

bold plover
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someone send me a good plate set that'll go with the blue legion artifact tower look thanks

sweet summit
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No worries mate

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The blue pvp set from wrath

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Uhhhh

still pagoda
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someone send me a good plate set that'll go with the blue legion artifact tower look thanks
@bold plover

Blue pvp sets, S14(MoP blue one) iicr

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also ally PvP se... Last good ally pvp set i remember is Legion S5-7 monk one

sweet summit
bold plover
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Keep in mind I'm a HMT so, it cant be based ally unique colouration like some are

sweet summit
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Its 😍 with the blue articaft weap

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No im horde too

still pagoda
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also available to horde

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as S15

sweet summit
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I just found this on google real quick

bold plover
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thanks

still pagoda
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Keep in mind I'm a HMT so, it cant be based ally unique colouration like some are
@bold plover

Half of good looking blue sets were once ally only

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like the 2 mentioned above

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they came to horde the season after

bold plover
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thanks guys I'll take a look at them and look around :) If any has any more ideas just @ me or DM me them

still pagoda
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i also advice using blue pvp/LFR belt from HFC with the pandaria set i linked

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from this set

lofty helm
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@bold plover

Half of good looking blue sets were once ally only
@still pagoda are u stand up?

still pagoda
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no

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faction swapped to horde and transferred to Kazzak on May 28th

bold plover
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tf is up with this

still pagoda
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wowhead's own bugs

lofty helm
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ok

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is good to buy the ineffable truth at 50%?

still pagoda
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ehh

lofty helm
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i will buy it today

still pagoda
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as a placeholder for now...

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maybe

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...

strong forum
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if you can afford the corruption eh sure

lofty helm
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i see all take 2 at 30%

strong forum
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but IT1 is massively better

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yes cuz
IT1 is 30% for 12 corruption
IT2 is 50% for 30 corruption

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2x IT1 is 60% for 24 Corruption

lofty helm
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i can't put the td rank 3 + rank 1 with the rank 2 IT?

sharp night
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you're just wasting corruption by doing that

lofty helm
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i go up to 39 atm?

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i will not waste echoes πŸ˜„

still pagoda
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up to 59 if you want

lofty helm
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i mainly fury and farm echoes for it

still pagoda
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my TD5+2xIT1 setup is 59

lofty helm
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i will not tank with the copy mate, i have fear in tanking

still pagoda
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there is nothing to fear

versed widget
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hey guys is it even worth using shield block on wrathion/maut/skittra? just looking at the damage and it looks like it's all magical basically

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figure it'd be more worth spamming IP unless rage capped?

idle zephyr
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What's the deal with ineffable truth? I'm tanking around 22+ using TD3 and lots of versatile. Seems everyone swapped suddenly

versed widget
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i think naowh and others run versatile + IT 2x rank 1 cos CDR is stronk with anger management

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if it procs and you use rage it double dips

scarlet copper
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hey guys, should I be going for urchin from ashvane or nah?

main vault
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Not counting all the physical I guess

sick sentinel
main vault
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You missed all the posts about not implementing that nerf huh

slate pilot
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Yeah

sick sentinel
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speaking of EP i had that link trinket from 2nd last boss of H EP, so good.

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macro it to healer focus, did lots of work

sick sentinel
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Ya'll prolly beat this to death but i'll ask anyway. Only tanking around +15 atm and have echos I can use. Versatility is out atm and rank 3 IT is out. Dont think I want rank 3 though so I can just stack vers?

left hatch
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you don't want versa either

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if you want a more defensive oriented build expedient and wait for 2 IT1's

icy harness
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You want TD3-4 + IT1x2

left hatch
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but yah you shouldn't need defensives at that level

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so fill in with as much TD as you're comfortable with

sick sentinel
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Ok got ya. will mess with exp. and wait for IT rank 2 to come into rotation. Usually bear tank but fuck it is boring.....new to prot warrior and it is fun as shit

icy harness
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You missed IT1 tho

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It was just here

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Yesterday

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4 weeks until it comes back

left hatch
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yeh youll be waiting awhile for it

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you do not want rank 2 IT

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you want 2 rank 1's

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(its 10% more cdr for less corruption)

sick sentinel
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all J. Will have massive amounts of echos to spend when it comes around.

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oh yea...I just watched Dratnos videos on it. meant rank 1

left hatch
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in the meantime just fill with TD

icy harness
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Dratnos pretty gae

left hatch
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help your group make them timers easier

sick sentinel
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Roger. thanks homies

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dratnos video on what?

last mason
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what dungeons do you guys not run aegis in

still pagoda
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It was just here
@icy harness

It was just ther 7 hours ago

primal dune
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I drop aegis for null with pugs in magic dungeons

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And ML

icy harness
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I wouldn't

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aegis is so much better

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you pull massive, get loads of vers

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3rd boss of ML you can spell reflect the dot

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OMEGALUL

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it does about 2k dps back to the boss

left hatch
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yeh... null has very very little value in M+

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outside of like workshop

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and even in 'magic dungeons' 70%+ of the damage is still physical

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that being said, if you arn't chain pulling + pulling mobs into boss fights to keep it at decent stacks

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sphere is a better 3rd pick for the constant haste

void hill
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Can anyone please tell me what causes searing reagent vs Rixa in ML?

modern brook
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the wrath weapon corruption isnt worth keeping, right?

primal sable
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@void hill her autos

void hill
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really?

icy harness
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any EUs up to do dungeons?

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at a hefty 4 am

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but yes @void hill her auto attacks are magic damage

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and you can reflect the dot that gets put on you, which does most of the damage

void hill
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yea i did that

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so i was just doing a 15 carry for a friend and it was hitting me for 250k a pop

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never seen that before

icy harness
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it's quite scary that boss

void hill
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i guess i just ahvent done it on tyranical in a while

analog swift
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I mean

native nexus
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hey guys, as prot, what corruption do you wana run with a 83 resist cape? plus 10 resist from essence

analog swift
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in order

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TD ->IT ->>Exp ->>>>>>>>>>>>verse

native nexus
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if you can run full TD should you? Or should you still aim for IT's and Exp

analog swift
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eh

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basically

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TD is pure damage which is awesome

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IT is going to be less damage overall

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but MUCH better for surviability, much better aggro and much more consistent damage

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keep in mind 2 rank 1 ITs is just ONE less TD

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so it's not like you're replacing all your TDs with IT

native nexus
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yea... awesome, thanks for the help πŸ˜„

analog swift
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yep you just missed IT

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verse build is completely unnecessary at lower keys

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but still fun to fuck with

native nexus
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what about mythic raiding?

analog swift
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td

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td

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td

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td

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td

native nexus
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lololol

analog swift
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all bosses are manageable w/out corruption

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so you mineaswell go offense

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whereas m+ keeps scaling

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so you have to think for different keys

native nexus
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sweet, ty for the help

bold plover
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hows wrathion sword?

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for M+

icy harness
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its haste vers, it's good

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go for higher ilvl if you have any

bold plover
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yeah but seems like twilight deva but worse

queen mantle
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which one would u guys use?

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the ilvl or the socket?

icy harness
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I would use bottom one for fury

sick sentinel
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my gut instinct says +15 ilvl so more stam more td more dps

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but no haste

queen mantle
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yea im switching that belt for fury for sure when i get a socket

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cuz i have a 470 with socket rn

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but yea, that lack of haste is sadbois

limpid pawn
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/ert

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this bar is not where it should be, not sure how it got here, anyone know what causes it?

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nvrmind got it

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(right click it and move it)

sick sentinel
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it's not required at all, but you can also use move anything addon and it's literally the name

radiant path
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Where in warcraft logs does it show how much rage I wasted during the run?

sick sentinel
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i think details and maybe recount can show rage gains

radiant path
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Someone earlier that was looking at my logs was taking screen shots of it

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on warcraft logs

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but you're probably right. Details! probably has it

sick sentinel
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i'm not the best warrior tank out there, still haven't completed all 15's yet

hollow marsh
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hey guys. somewhat new to prot warr raiding. gonna help some casual guildies on H nyalotha with my alt tank.

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what essences should i buy for a cookie cutter build?

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just for all around shit

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can buy 1 more essence. thinking of either lucid dreams/strength?

ivory topaz
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Lucid for sure. it's good in most cases. Null barrier if you are raid tanking.

hollow marsh
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oh yikes dont have access to null barrier 3 yet xD

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will probably just quest for rank1. the minor doesnt seem to have much difference i think?

ivory topaz
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I'm not sure what the differences are for the minor on it

sick sentinel
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@queen mantle use the 460

icy harness
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the difference is that it does dps @hollow marsh @ivory topaz

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it does a decent chunk of dps in raid

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at rank 3

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like I think around 2k dps

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because bosses do magic damage

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I don't think anyone uses lucid for the actual magic resistance

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Maybe it was used when dying was actually a thing πŸ‘€

hollow marsh
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looks like im just gonna get lucid dreams then

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cba to get null 3 xD

amber siren
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not having null isnt the end of the world

hollow marsh
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solid

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how about an all around build for m+

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with the shit i have xD

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i see people go cns major for the clap?

limpid pawn
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CNS major for high versa build for 23+ keys or beach in front of tol dagor

sick sentinel
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it's for vers build

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or for siege

hollow marsh
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oh

sick sentinel
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or tol

hollow marsh
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so just visions then

amber siren
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the root from clap is broken if you have any slow 30% or higher on a mob, you'll typically see it when you need to kite or root enemies for a particular reason or going for vers

sick sentinel
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cns in vision?

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you use CoF major

hollow marsh
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oh

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flame major
vision, aegis, cns minor

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something like that?

sick sentinel
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for vision?

hollow marsh
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m+

sick sentinel
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aegis is bad

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I'm talking vision

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since you were talking about it

warm plinth
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Visions trash is irrelevant. Just go pure single target

hollow marsh
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ah no no no

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talking about VoP

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sorry

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not horrific visions

last mason
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Any tips for the first half of shrine and the second boss, I feel like I get shredded

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My gear is good so it a defs player error

radiant path
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My gear is good so it a defs player error
Story of my life

amber siren
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Make sure water bolts are being interrupted, don’t waste kicks on anchor or wash away just move away. Dispels are helpful too for mending rapids.

wheat plume
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in what dungeons is null barrier good? one off the top of my mind is ML

orchid anvil
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Shrine, WCM, Shop, TD

sick sentinel
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what

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TD is def not one

upper violet
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It has a lot of casts

sick sentinel
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Shrine everything is interruptible and can be avoided

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TD is the opposite of a good dungeon to run null

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Only dungeons I'd run null is WS and ML

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and for ws and ml only on tyran

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so almost never on push weeks

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that's higher key standard tho

nova rover
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What are the essences you run normally Kyothi?

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Im trying to figure a good balance for keys, havent got CnS, should I still push for that one?

upper violet
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wdym push

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get it its good

nova rover
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Using Major: VoP Minor: AotD, MoLD, SotW

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Aka PVP, Ive not pvped much this xpack

upper violet
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if you dont have it at all being at 1.6 is 4 weeks i think

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1.6 isnt hard if you have some gear even with pugs

bold plover
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Depends, how high we talking

nova rover
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15+

bold plover
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because the best prot warrior in M+ runs Anima

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wait not anima

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SOTW*

nova rover
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as a minor?

upper violet
nova rover
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I have sotw

bold plover
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as a major

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Naowh is floorpov

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Or rather looking at his keys he swaps it

upper violet
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im pretty sure he uses strife but idk

bold plover
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He swaps between them from what I'm looking at

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even lucid

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yeah just depends on what key /affixes it seems

nova rover
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Man he is running a ton of versatile corruption

bold plover
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well yeah warrior pumps even without TD

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but it sure helps

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dont really understand why so many people shit on SOTW when its ran by so many people in high keys

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the corruption resist is good 😒

sick sentinel
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raider io isn't always updated

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and I'm looking at his highest keys done

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not a single SoTW

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sotw is a vision / fang type of thing to do

flat jackal
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Sotw major???

sick sentinel
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ye nobody uses that in an actual key

flat jackal
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Yeah. I think I’ve seen nerf use it once, but it was back in bursting skittish. Even then it was for atal and for specific pulls

sick sentinel
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only for atal where you'd probably need snap aggro on skittish week

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then I can see it

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otherwise

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gross

wheat plume
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yeah i tried ML +21 had a flawless run until the 3rd boss this week , was reflecting and all that good shit , but id just get hit by magic spells i couldnt reflect in under 2 seconds for 900k interesting boss

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i wasnt running null though so i trolled

sick sentinel
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null probably wouldn't of saved you

still pagoda
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null is only ~60k magic damage absorb every 15 seconds

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won't save you

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At all

vital stratus
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Fine to run 39 corruption right?

upper violet
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yeah ofc

young light
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hey guys whats our best stats? haste + vers?

sweet summit
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ilvl>haste>crit for m+ generally

young light
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so haste gems + food?

sweet summit
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yes, but force multi weapon enchant

young light
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awesome, thanks!

dark lark
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Pushing 23's and up now: Do I apply vers3 to a 475 vers crit hand or to a 465 socketed haste vers hand

sweet summit
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id do the 465s

spice mauve
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hey guys, it must be just me but im having troubles taking as prot, there seems to be a lot to monitor/maintain aside from making sure aggro stays on me and im doing the mechanic right

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i tanked as blood and veng before (with veng being really easy as hell)

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but when it comes to prot warrior, i have troubles making sure i have shield block, ignore pain, and enough rage to press those.

supple lily
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you don't need to track IP
you dump rage into it for AM cdr

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anger management

spice mauve
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yeah mb i remembered it after i typed it haha

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above all else maintain shield block right?

supple lily
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if incoming damage physical yes

sweet summit
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Blockable*

supple lily
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shadow of zul, ml 3rd 4th bosses and first phase of King Mechagon is where you don't need sb at all

spice mauve
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im ilvl 428, is it normal that i die quite quickly in m3?

supple lily
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you played reactive tanks and switched to proactive
practice it more

spice mauve
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hmm so if i were more familar and used to prot's tanking, i should be able to handle m3s?

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at that gear

supple lily
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yes, they shouldn't be a problem

spice mauve
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oh damn it, im going to try to run more

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to practice it

supple lily
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focus on rotation of sb, last stand and shield wall

spice mauve
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in terms of sustain, since i heard prot has little, i should just rely on my healer for that?

supple lily
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you rely on mitigating most of the damage
for everything else you have a healer

spice mauve
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then focusing vers as a stat is a must?

supple lily
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haste

young light
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guys where good shield drops

supple lily
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more rage, more cdr, more damage

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AD, ML, Ilgy

young light
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k ty

spice mauve
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pull with heroic leap > demo > sb > tclap > shield slam > sb (when expired), with avatar and last stand somewhere in between those and dumping ip when rage is high. Is that right?

ripe shale
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why heroic leap

supple lily
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Ava>Clap>Demo>Clap

spice mauve
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why heroic leap
@ripe shale charge maybe?

ripe shale
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yeah

spice mauve
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or throw

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ohh

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ok ok

ripe shale
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Avatar during charge and use last stand to fill when you have no shield block available

spice mauve
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ok ok

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Charge w/avatar > clap > demo > clap > sb

supple lily
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should sb with clap

spice mauve
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ah yeah

supple lily
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want that block rolling

spice mauve
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Its off gcd

young light
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is blocking some dmg doin dmg to target aswell or not?

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or mastery is useless

sweet summit
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its not unless you have the Iron Fortress trait

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and mastery is not useless

blissful ether
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Hey guys! Is prot warrior a good class to learn tanking with? I'm decently new to the game so i have low to no dungeon knowledge...

supple lily
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any tank is good

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war no exception

sweet summit
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its one of the harder tank specs to get into since its 100% proactive

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but i believe in you!

scarlet copper
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Anyone who uses Elvui name plates know if there is a way to make nameplates not jump all over the place? For instance when explosion spawns in a pack, the nameplate moves all around trying to find a place and it’s hard to click quickly

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Or is there a better nameplate I should be using

still pagoda
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i don't remember such problems with ElvUI back in early BfA

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dunno how it is rn

buoyant scroll
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so quick question what is ur normal overall dps

sweet summit
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depends on affix, dungeon, group, key level, how much twilight im running etcetc

buoyant scroll
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yeah i mean like 60-70 k not specific

still pagoda
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somewhere around there usually

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since i'm running TD4 all the time

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and last 2 weeks were not great for big pulls

buoyant scroll
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well i disbandet TD for versa gain and currently going out of the dungen with around 67k

still pagoda
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TD4+Exp2 back then

buoyant scroll
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i wonder if a good week comes if i can stretch that out more

sweet summit
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next week is good

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sanguine is a bit iffy some places, but overall easy to manage

still pagoda
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next 4 weeks are my exam weeks

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So nah

sweet summit
still pagoda
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weekly +20 and going on with studies

buoyant scroll
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sanguine is only iffy in td and waycrest πŸ˜„

sweet summit
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i find waycrest not that hard, but TD... nothanks

still pagoda
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Waycrest is not hard

buoyant scroll
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well waycrest is free at the moment the raal halls are clean but this is a shitshow with sanguine

still pagoda
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but it becomes incredibly frustrating with stupid DPS on tyr weeks

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especially when they don't spread on triad and get oneshot from marks

buoyant scroll
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tbh i dont see a different anymore in tyranicall and fortified

still pagoda
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RIP +21 thanks to such

buoyant scroll
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πŸ˜„ yeah the witches are a bit tricky

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thats why i start with them no matter what

still pagoda
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they're not tricky

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they just require brains

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just like everything in higher keys

buoyant scroll
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with stupid dps everything is tricky

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or stupid healer

still pagoda
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99% of DPS pugs on 3-3.5k rio seem like boosted

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i have a healer bro with whom i do keys on a regular basis

buoyant scroll
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i dont say u are stupid i said with a stupid heal

still pagoda
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i didn't imply that at all

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just never pug healers

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find someone and you'll be fine

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and vers is meh in keys before +23-25 anyway

buoyant scroll
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i mean dont heal a dps for over 15 sec in a groupe with much not avoidable or avoidable random dmg isnt the best move

still pagoda
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so i can just go full dam with 2xIT1 and chill

onyx vessel
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Whats worse bad healer or a bad tank

sweet summit
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bad tank

onyx vessel
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In keys tank is very important

still pagoda
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bad DPS

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because they will mitigate any effort

onyx vessel
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I never said a dps

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You have 3 to carry the weight

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If you talking about boosted dps at 3k io

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Its cuz only 1 dps has to have the brain

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Take a hunter for example auto invite pretty much

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Easy climb

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Bad tank is far worse then bad dps

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Ik ive seen one

sweet summit
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i disagree with some of what you said, but the general idea is right imo

onyx vessel
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Hardest part of tanking is holding threat over the mongo dps who memebeam instantly on pull

marble cipher
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Try ret Pala burst πŸ˜‰

onyx vessel
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What i find amusing is ppl are like you only need vers at 25+ so whay we gonna stack some useless shit we dont need

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I have

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Still held threat

marble cipher
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When they do it with you having avatar, sure

onyx vessel
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Hes not a mongo tho

marble cipher
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When they do it if I don't have avatar, I have to work to keep/get threat. I don't mind though, gives me something to do

onyx vessel
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Not having avatar during a pull

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πŸ€”

marble cipher
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Granted, doesn't happen often

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But he's known for popping his bursts at very strange times. Like that one intermediate three-mob-pull. Or non elite pulls. He's strange πŸ˜‚

onyx vessel
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Dstorm big brain

marble cipher
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😎

onyx vessel
#

Mage or dh both have very high burst

marble cipher
#

Sometimes I tell them on voice that I'll pull a small pack to get cd's back for the next pull, and then I see him pop all he has on that pull, and the next one takes ages.
Lost in translation I guess 🀷

onyx vessel
#

I dont cuz they dont listen to me

marble cipher
#

I have that when I call interrupts, they often just play around and 'race' to have the interrupt, and then someone dies of a free cast afterwards, and I laugh at them

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Luckily I don't try pushing 20+

onyx vessel
#

Worse when im trying to spellreflect

marble cipher
#

Oh yeah, that's infuriating

onyx vessel
#

Prob why i like shop

#

Big dam reflects uninterruptible

marble cipher
#

That's only pulse blasts is it? Or are there other fun reflects in there?

onyx vessel
#

Thats it

#

Mostly cuz it just feels like a well rounded dungoen it guess

marble cipher
#

I like shop too, no thinking about routes is always a nice change

onyx vessel
#

Some other dungeons dont have much of a change to route either

loud shoal
#

There are def a lot more options now with the pillars. There are the more established routes for sure but there is def room for creativity in almost any dungeon

marble cipher
#

I only dislike waycrest when it's right side door. Such a long kite to get to witches...

lime mantle
#

Hey is sphere of supression any good?

#

because pvp islands are impossible to do and I give up on this dogshit content.

marble cipher
#

It's decent depending on alternatives

sweet summit
#

sphere owns

#

rank 1 is most of its power

#

so thats fine

lime mantle
#

I've got rank 2

sweet summit
#

pog

marble cipher
#

That's fine

lime mantle
#

I cannot win a pvp fucking island.

#

to get it

marble cipher
#

No need for r3

lime mantle
#

I repeat

sweet summit
#

xd

#

just win

lime mantle
#

I CANNOT WIN THE FUCKING PVP ISLAND

sweet summit
#

ez

lime mantle
#

10+ tries

sweet summit
#

are you puging them?

lime mantle
#

yes

#

I am going fucking insane

sweet summit
#

aha

#

get a guild group

#

or friend group

lime mantle
#

friends refuse to do it

sweet summit
#

pull very large

marble cipher
#

Just play them like a non pvp island

lime mantle
#

It doesn't mater

sweet summit
#

and pve your way to victory

lime mantle
#

I pull large? Impossible all the items spawned on the enemy boat

#

so xd fuck you rng decide you lose

sweet summit
marble cipher
#

All the items? πŸ€”

lime mantle
#

Yep, it's fucking absurd

#

I wish I was being hyperbolic but I am not which tilts me beyond belief

marble cipher
#

Then run other essences? I never run sphere, it's good, but there's better 🀷

lime mantle
#

That's why I was asking if it was good

sweet summit
#

it is good

lime mantle
#

so I don't have to do this fucking joke

sweet summit
#

but you dont need it

marble cipher
#

Is sphere good? Yeah, lovely, extra haste.
Will you need it? Probably not, as you'll fill your minors with CnS/Null/Lucid/Strength/...

spice mauve
#

i ran m+2 and at the end of the run i asked my group how my tanking was as i was new to prot warrior and they said i did well and the run went smoothly.

sweet summit
#

nice man! deswind

spice mauve
#

thank you guys here at the disc for helping!

loud shoal
#

that's good, but I will say running a +2 you can do a lot wrong and still survive no problem

spice mauve
#

yeah haha but we managed it with less than 5 deaths

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im glad to here that the changes i made to my prot improved my performance and my group didn't get salty on me haha

still pagoda
#

that's good, but I will say running a +2 you can do a lot wrong and still survive no problem
@loud shoal @spice mauve

Technically, this applies to everything up to +10-12 if you're at around 420-430 ilvl

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and the main difference between +9 and +10 is in routes anyway

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Bad tank is far worse then bad dps
@onyx vessel

I agree here

#

having bad tank is disastrous

amber siren
#

just get 200% trash

spice mauve
#

@spice mauve

Technically, this applies to everything up to +10-12 if you're at around 420-430 ilvl
@still pagoda you can run +10s at around that ilvl?

sick sentinel
#

No bad tanks only bad players

halcyon coyote
#

yes you can @spice mauve

#

i did

spice mauve
#

holy shit

#

and i thought my guildie was just memeing when a newbie asked whats the ilvl for +10s

sick sentinel
#

Yep if you are good with basic mechanics and rotation no reason you cant do 10's at 420-440

spice mauve
#

and he said 430

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i remember an lfg earlier, the guy was running +7, and he required ilvl 460+

sick sentinel
#

Don't stand in shit
Kill shit.
Do interrupting and slowing.
This is how you win

alpine stag
#

Anyone got a guide on important abilities , specifically boss abiliities where internet is useful . Power shot is an obvious one, but I feel intercept is one part of my game that I am lacking in

daring bay
#

Internet is usefull on all the bosses :3

#

Some people might disagree, but i say internet is even more important than leech

loud shoal
alpine stag
#

Lol

#

Autocorrect

#

Intercept!*

#

Hahahahaha

#

Powder shot*

#

God damn phones

loud shoal
#

I would say the most important uses of intercept would be first boss in FH during the first phase...intercept someone that just got shot so they don't get two in a row... Eudora Powder shot... molten slug in siege trash . that's all I can think of off the top of my head

steep wraith
#

You can intercept the heart-something shots in motherlode too

sweet summit
#

you can just bodyblock it too

steep wraith
#

Yep, intercept gives a bit more freedom for movement on the last boss where there's 2 of them

sick sentinel
#

i'm trying to figure out what justhealus is seems like it will be handy

#

okay, that is actually super handy

warm plinth
#

It gives a rough idea of how much damage certain mechanics will do on a certain key level as a certain class/spec. Basically to identify things that might one shot at high keys

bold plover
#

not a single SoTW
@sick sentinel we ignoring the multiple mechas he ran with Sotw? Hell the highest one I found where he ran sotw was a 27 yep

loud shoal
#

What about sotw?

strong forum
#

he ran sotw + fang for low key spam

#

and rio takes essences and trait and such from armory, and those arent accurate

#

cuz armory only updated when you log out

sick sentinel
#

if you pay for the upgrade on RIO you can get it updated every like 4 or 6 hours instead of 12-24

#

which like, why, but okay

sweet summit
#

you can just log out and scan whenever you want to πŸ€”

strong forum
#

^

sick sentinel
#

yeh, but it won't force a check of io for XYZ hours

sweet summit
#

im in bois 😎

strong forum
#

😳

#

bold statement

sweet summit
#

😳

wheat tundra
#

Hello Guys !

Would u advice me to use searing flames? LVl 2 on my weapon?

#

Or should i replace it?

sweet summit
#

depends on what else you have available

wheat tundra
#

TD 2 vita 2

#

vita 1 sry

sweet summit
#

vita?

#

surging vitality?

wheat tundra
#

vitalitx

#

yes

sweet summit
#

TD and flames will be more damage

icy harness
#

😳

wheat tundra
#

So flame +TD instead of more durability?

amber siren
#

versatility builds require a more focused set than just adding a surging

#

the damage will serve you better at this point

quiet mauve
#

Whats the big deal with Lucid Dreams major. Is it because theres not much better for prot warrior? Im guessing its best used on big pulls

#

I kind of dont understand the reasoning behind world first prot warriors using it. Is it like a +25 and beyond thing?

sweet summit
#

a lot of rage generation for a lot of ignore pains

#

and avatar back to back

#

mostly used for big pulls in big keys

quiet mauve
#

Its fun to use thats for sure

#

Im running a haste and TD set up atm. Im doing only 19s max so i see no need to spec verse, the dmg is more beneficial at this level

radiant path
#

Hey, Rosjen! Yesterday you looked at a log for me and gave me some amazing tips(thanks :)) Where were you seeing the wasted rage on warcraft logs?

sweet summit
#

doing the warrior vs nyalotha thing, can take a look after

radiant path
#

Sweet, thanks πŸ™‚

bold plover
#

Hows IS for prot?

sweet summit
#

good on ST like always

#

but just play TD

bold plover
#

That'd be great

#

if I had TD

sweet summit
icy harness
#

@sweet summit

#

how do you boost people in freehold 😳

#

prot spec or fury

#

and what difficulty

main vault
#

Normal is the only one they can zone in I’m pretty sure

icy harness
#

so do I go prot and just pull everything

sweet summit
#

ya

icy harness
#

or do rational pulls with fury

#

ah

main vault
#

Pmuch

#

Just mass pull and AoE it all down

#

Skip all but last boss

#

Should be like 4 pulls total, maybe 6 while you are learning

sweet summit
#

3 total

#

one on each island

#

dont kill any bosses, only last boss

icy harness
#

dont have too much gear

#

going on

sweet summit
#

no joke, use anime major

icy harness
#

i should probably go torment too

sweet summit
#

fang

main vault
#

Yeah that anima burst does well

icy harness
#

dont have it

#

D:

#

so Last Stand > Anima

#

lol

sweet summit
#

yar

icy harness
#

yaarrr

#

thank u boyz

#

love u ros 😳 no homo

sweet summit
#

😳

upper violet
#

idk

#

kinda weird

still pagoda
#

1st night on mythic ilgy today

#

in just 15 minutes

icy harness
still pagoda
#

fuck LPS

#

2xIT1 endless SR time

bold plover
#

nice weak auras what’s the string πŸ‘€

still pagoda
void hill
#

Anyone know what would be creating an ICON that looks like Challengers Burden on my name plates

sweet summit
#

@radiant path same things as last time, really
wasting a lot of rage, low % blocked attacks, very low APM (youre not using abilities), using devastate to much

still pagoda
#

is this even possible?

#

this shit must die

still pagoda
steep bone
#

On Nzoth, what's shield blockable and what do i IP?
Dunno where's that spreadsheet link with blockable damage

tender spire
#

what do "P" and "M" stand for in your screenshot ?

#

(on the char's healthbar)

hushed cobalt
#

Physical and magical, its ehp

still pagoda
#

it's an 'EHP Tracker WA

tender spire
#

aaaah ok thank you πŸ™‚

worn fiber
#

Prot Suppose to stack 12% Vers corruptions?

undone sun
#

it's an option, not required

still pagoda
#

despite us tanking the boss for the same amount of time

sweet summit
#

damage taken? πŸ€”

still pagoda
#

yes

bold plover
#

Jesus

still pagoda
#

after the second organ

slate pond
#

check HPS and subtract the 2 numbers, wont be as bad as it looks

still pagoda
#

@slate pond we're even at 20k EDTPS with such counting

royal fern
#

is there a list of prot mitigation from highest to lowest survivability value

still pagoda
radiant path
#

@sweet summit Thanks for the feedback! I should just take that(devastate) off my bars and run a few 10's just to get used to not using that haha

#

It feels like I only use it when my other stuff is off cd

#

thats weird

bold plover
#

where do haste/vers swords drop, ones from AD right? but where else

icy harness
#

AD and wrathion

#

lul

bold plover
#

rip

#

thanks

still pagoda
#

like

#

you can pick up either of mechagon 1H's

exotic spoke
#

Just get one that has haste and whatever

still pagoda
#

first night

exotic spoke
#

No dispel strat?

still pagoda
#

and we still have one and a half hours

#

no

#

with dispels

#

since we have a shitload of melee

exotic spoke
#

Melee heavy? Yeah makes sense then

#

I dispel was fun. Watch a person fuck up and then the raid explodes like popcorn

still pagoda
#

we're changing setup to a bit more ranged focused now

#

trying to shove in as many RDPS as possible

slate pond
#

most people are dying to standing in the poop, ranged wont help too much with that. i assume you are using lock gates right?

still pagoda
#

yes

slate pond
#

as a warrior especially its so hard to die to that unless people are fucking you, leap and a gate makes its just a non-mechanic for you

still pagoda
#

it is already a non-mechanic for me

#

i just stand, then go to right organ

#

interrupt, rince-repeat

regal saddle
#

Being in interrupt duty in a non kill organ is sad times 😦

sweet summit
#

oh no my parses xd

regal saddle
#

It be like that sometimes

#

In my raid we have two arms + me as fury and it’s like , it’s doesn’t live long enough

cursive musk
#

at what keylvl does vers3 outperform TD? Td is dmg focused and vers is a bit of offense and defense it seems?

icy harness
#

Guys

#

russia man said im super

#

there's gonna be an apocalypse

sweet summit
#

what a GAMER

icy harness
#

yep COCK

sweet summit
#

@cursive musk 23-25 ish, depends on you as a player mostly

cursive musk
#

Im doing 20-21 atm and i dont feel much difference in survivability, but my damage has sunk

still pagoda
#

there's gonna be an apocalypse
@icy harness

Well

#

just in case

#

there're also Russians on English speaking EU servers

icy harness
#

I have all russian realms blacklisted

still pagoda
#

me for example

icy harness
#

😳

bold plover
#

why dont you like russians

still pagoda
#

Kazzak is the Funny Zone of EU

bold plover
#

at least they're not latin players

icy harness
#

I do like russians

#

I just don't like the ones that can't speak english

#

well some of them

bold plover
#

πŸ€”

icy harness
#

I can understand руски tho

bold plover
#

tf does that what

icy harness
#

tf does that what

#

everyone from that Π”Π£Π¨ server of whatever

#

they are just giga toxic

bold plover
#

no what does that mean

sweet summit
#

russian

icy harness
#

what does what mean

sweet summit
#

if transelate is correct

icy harness
#

yeah

#

руски means russian

#

i just spelt it bad

upper violet
#

Π₯Π°Ρ…Π°Ρ…Π°Ρ…Π°

steep bone
#

nzoth trinket with rezan eye or dragonscale

sweet summit
#

scale>rezan

steep bone
#

scale is 445 tho rezan 460

#

if it matters

icy harness
#

@sweet summit @sweet hearth wanna play? 😳

sweet summit
#

who is @sweet hearth

icy harness
#

He msgd me yesterday idk

#

A dude from my old realm

radiant path
#

Which trinkets do I want other than the Raden vita trinket?

steep bone
#

nzoth

radiant path
#

Ok, other than raid trinkets haha

#

I can't spam raid πŸ™‚

sweet summit
#

rezan+block

#

from atal and waycrest

radiant path
#

I have Rezan 465(Just got it after spamming that dungeon like 10 times haha)

#

Ok, so waycrest

#

Thanks!

sweet summit
#

nice!

icy harness
#

I figured blocc wouldnt be that good on tank tho

sweet summit
#

wdym

#

crit is good

icy harness
#

yeah it is

#

but what's the uptime on the bloccy boi

sweet summit
#

20-25%

icy harness
#

23%

#

damn

#

that's not too bad I guess

#

it's kinda weird since blocc has 1 RPPM

still pagoda
#

i'm sitting at 23%

icy harness
#

and so does vita

still pagoda
#

feels fine

#

also

#

pull #23 now

icy harness
#

Ros 😳 come dps for me

sweet summit
#

vita/rezan/blocc are all 1 rppm

still pagoda
#

ilgy is really close to dying

icy harness
radiant path
#

Man.. I really do need that N'zoth trinket! Holy crap!

#

Thats seriously incredible.

#

And only a 1 minute cd!?

icy harness
#

yeah its pretty good

#

Sphere > SotW

#

if I can afford the corruption

#

right?

sweet summit
#

ya

icy harness
#

oh also

#

why not go ITx3

#

πŸ€”

sweet summit
#

overkill

#

1 is fine
2 is enough
3 is too much

icy harness
#

oh and just one thing

#

the 480 vs 465 shoulders are way more noticable on fury than they are on prot right?

sweet summit
#

id say so

icy harness
#

i just cant get that 480 shoulder drop the 2nd time pepsihands

sweet summit
steep bone
#

is that nzoth trinket affected by IT?

sweet summit
#

no

steep bone
#

😦

#

1min cd tho

sweet summit
#

only warrior abilities

#

so no trinkets/essences

strong forum
#

rosjen

#

time for tos 15 with 420 pally tank

#

and me on enha 456

sweet summit
#

what the fuck

#

uhhh

icy harness
#

can I join too D:

#

i can get a healer in

strong forum
#

na we full meme premade

sweet summit
#

start stream or riot

still pagoda
#

just tanked 4 stacks on Ilgy

strong forum
#

is started

still pagoda
#

we were ripping aggro off each other all the time this pull

icy harness
#

REEEEEEEEEE

sweet summit
#

tried killing it or?

icy harness
#

hm?

sweet summit
#

why dont they just bench someone and get you in?

#

ez kill

icy harness
#

oh lol

#

im too trash

#

they have furies doing 150k+

sweet summit
slate pond
#

150K and the boss isnt dead yet? yikes

lofty widget
#

hi guys, can someone help me understand how i'm losing about 150 vers from equipping the 465 boots over the 475 ones?

sweet summit
#

you are losing HoD

lofty widget
#

yep of course, thx

sweet summit
upper violet
#

@icy harness why didnt u press execute lmao

icy harness
#

+++ junkyard

#

in Ros's route

#

with 2 pillars on last boss

#

@sweet summit proud of me?

#

😳

#

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

hushed cobalt
#

Not #1 πŸ˜”

sweet summit
#

BIG MATE

#

BIG

icy harness
#

BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG

still pagoda
#

29 pulls on ilgy

sweet summit
#

my JY route best JY route confirmed????

icy harness
#

it is pretty good

sweet summit
#

did u kill it @still pagoda

still pagoda
#

no

#

but very close

sweet summit
#

aw 😒

icy harness
#

vamp speed or gemhide

#

πŸ€”

sweet summit
#

VS

icy harness
#

oh damn

#

okay

sweet summit
#

IV>RP>VS>anything>self reliance

icy harness
#

rp?

sweet summit
#

maybe even VS>RP?? idk

#

resounding protection

strong forum
#

πŸ€”

icy harness
#

ah

#

yes

#

another question!

#

so I downloaded zen tracker, and I downloaded the lib-thing addon

#

but I only see a few cooldowns, and not all of them

#

πŸ€”

sweet summit
#

what CDs do you not see?

icy harness
#

like, almost every

#

i only see about 5

#

in a full group

#

instead of everyone's cooldowns personally

sweet summit
#

you have a screenshot?

icy harness
#

ill try to get one rn

#

1 sec

#

i only see those 3

#

for example

sweet summit
#

what WAs did you get? πŸ€”

icy harness
#

Zen tracker

#
  • their addon
sweet summit
#

get this too

sudden granite
#

hello everyone, I'm back to tanking since long as a protection warrior. Someone knows if there ia a cap for haste, versa in order to tank mythic Ny'alotha? tnx

sweet summit
#

it should anchor to your party frames

#

the first MAJOR cap is at 166%

icy harness
#

that's a bit weird

#

lol

sweet summit
#

change the anchor to right instead of left

icy harness
#

the what πŸ‘€

sweet summit
sweet hearth
#

could also move your party frames to the right a bit

icy harness
#

still same

#

i did change it

#

ah thats pog

sweet summit
#

epic

sweet hearth
#

looks good

icy harness
#

arent they gonna be a bit smushed in

#

when there's more people

sweet summit
#

they would

icy harness
#

or is it smart enough to get smaller

sweet summit
#

you have scuffed frames

icy harness
#

I HAVE DEFAULT ONES

#

D:

#

maybe not

sweet hearth
#

i'd change the size so the 2 rows are in line with your frames

icy harness
#

actually

sweet summit
#

you can change the size of the WAs

#

or the size of your frames

icy harness
#

I did

#

ah yes

#

just uh, what do I do to this one

#

just yeet it out

#

somehow

sweet hearth
#

looks like that's a seperate weakaura? not sure though

icy harness
#

it is

#

but if i turn that one off

#

the top one doesnt work either

sweet hearth
#

just drag it off the screen ^-^

#

i've hidden many weakauras

icy harness
#

I made the size to 1x1

#

i cant even see it now

sweet summit
#

load->never

icy harness
#

lul

#

I did that Ros

#

but it disabled the top one

#

you see those 3 dots

#

at the bottom

#

that's it now

sweet summit
#

lul

icy harness
#

and i dragged it off the screen now successfully

#

i'm so scuffed

#

it's wonderful

sweet hearth
#

out of sight, out of mind

icy harness
#

manic

#

you wanna do dunjooons

sweet hearth
#

just helping a bud with his 14 atm ^-^

icy harness
#

I can do that

#

if you dont have full premade grp

sweet hearth
#

just us 2 atm, we are 2 warriors though πŸ˜›

icy harness
#

i can bring in 3 more platies

#

if you want

#

dk pally and me

#

heal tank and dps

sweet hearth
#

yeah sweet

icy harness
#

do

#

/invite Sluggernaut

still pagoda
exotic spoke
#

Was it @lusty grotto

still pagoda
#

kek

exotic spoke
#

Was he inting it?

still pagoda
#

my first time healing M+

sweet summit
sweet hearth
#

Vynnir poggers tank

icy harness
#

@sweet summit you hear that?

#

😳

#

I did kinda fuck the pulls up a bit ahaha

sweet summit
#

😳

still pagoda
#

😳

icy harness
#

I was pulling full Rosjen style

#

Either dead or we kill 30 mobs

sweet hearth
#

most weeks would of been bang on, we got unlucky with spritzers and explosives

icy harness
#

Yeah the spritzers are real bad, they are

sweet summit
#

πŸ˜‚

icy harness
#

Ros I will never forget that pull

#

Slime pillar in front of last boss of yard

sweet summit
#

What pull

icy harness
#

All 30 of the mobs

sweet summit
#

Oh

#

Yeah

icy harness
#

When we all did 250k+

sweet hearth
#

sounds reasonable

icy harness
#

That was the dream

sweet summit
#

I like that pull

icy harness
#

I'm getting to quite enjoy prot tbh

#

Tho my legs kinda hurt from all the stomping

#

πŸ₯Ί

sweet summit
#

πŸ˜‚

still pagoda
sweet hearth
#

368 thunder claps ^-^

still pagoda
#

i did heal somewhat "good" with agi weapon

#

though it was still miserable

#

since i couldn't top off people easily

icy harness
#

this is the first dungeon

#

where TD > TC

obtuse yoke
#

i like your details name