protection

[last mason]

can you reflect on waycrest bosses other than sisters

[undone sun]

https://i.imgur.com/39tFjKs.png

[gaunt wadi]

Where is that from, Thyme?

[undone sun]

#268491842637660160

[gaunt wadi]

Ty

[undone sun]

Blockable/Reflectable Spells Sheet

[toxic remnant]

King Mechagon Wrists good or nah?

[cursive burrow]

No.

[native wharf]

hey all, new to prot warrior. switching over from guardian druid. im having a hard time with threat in mythics. there isnt a spammable aoe i see on warrior. how do you deal with this? i hit intercept then thunderclap then what? i can use the shout to generate 40 rage but shouldnt i use that on shield block and not revenge? any advice would be greatly appreciated 🙂

[halcyon pasture]

hi guys. What is the optimal IT set up? I hear its 2x rank 1. Is that correct?

Can anyone help me with this ?

[rocky garnet]

Someone in pins answers that

[cursive burrow]

2x IT1

[rocky garnet]

Also this may be a dumb question

[cursive burrow]

Also @native wharf when you charge in (if VoP doesn't proc) you hit Avatar. This reduces TCs CD

[rocky garnet]

But how do you do giant pulls as prot with a lot of casters? Just have a reliable team with calling out kicks?

[cursive burrow]

Shield slam your kill prio then TC, SS, and only revenge on proc.

[rocky garnet]

I do 20-22s on my vengeance and tryinf to push a bit on my prot in off weeks

But it just feels a lot harder to live if kicks are missed

And vengeance literally doesn’t care until really high which is nice

[native wharf]

@cursive burrow ahh, tyvm. when do you squeeze in the mitigation when first pulling? is it like this: intercept, avatar, shout, ss, tc, sb?

[cursive burrow]

I Charge, Block, slam, avatar, tc, shout then clap on CD while hitting refreshes and revenge procs.

[native wharf]

cool cool

[cursive burrow]

Dump rage with IP spam to get avatar and shout back up.

Make sure to keep 40 banked for block when it is off.

[native wharf]

awesome. thanks alot @cursive burrow

[last mason]

what minors u guys take in shrine this week

i have vision major on

[last mason]

and is avoidant a decent filler

[halcyon pasture]

What happens if Maut eats the adds staright away on Mythic?

Do you run out of time to deal with the curse?

[vernal hamlet]

Hello, which race in the best for each spec?

[halcyon pasture]

For DPS they are all about the same

[uncut schooner]

what corruptions are good for prot warrior? jw

[rocky garnet]

Check pins

And you can do that if you have the damage it doesn’t really matter

We hold the adds now and just one phase him

[halcyon pasture]

https://bloodmallet.com/index.html#warrior_fury?data_view=races

[amber siren]

@halcyon pasture eating adds gives him mana, on the third obsidian skin he will one shot your raid

[lime mantle]

How exactly does twilight devastation stacking work?
I assume it just goes +damage but it doesn't add +proc rate; ie the difference (outside corruption) of having 2xTD1 and 2xTD1 is none

[undone sun]

yes

[amber siren]

damage stacks, proc rate remains flat

[lime mantle]

👌

[queen mantle]

does ineffable affect trinkets/essences cd ?

[slate pond]

no

[halcyon coyote]

Is td a big dps gain over versatile in m+ keys?

Nvm I can sim this

[sweet summit]

yes it is

[flat jackal]

Does vers increase leech healing?

[sweet summit]

you need a lot of versatile to make up for the lost TD in keys

kinda tofu, it increases the damage you do so you heal more. but the vers does not increase the healing from leech

[flat jackal]

Thanks

[bold plover]

but doesn’t vers increase healing received? @sweet summit

[amber siren]

healing done

not received

[sick sentinel]

humming black dragonscale with gem vs vita-charged, same ilvl

[sweet summit]

why not both

[sick sentinel]

lps

[sweet summit]

vita is better than scale

[sick sentinel]

even with gem?

[sweet summit]

yar

[sick sentinel]

alright thx

[bold plover]

healing done
@amber siren Ah shit; seems I misread the stat, oh well, thanks

[sweet summit]

did you read bear mastery instead 🤔

[bold plover]

... yes....

[upper violet]

shameless

[shell urchin]

Hello, leveling a new warrior.
Saw the spell-reflection wa, but since it's a custom-list-based wa, it doesn't work on lower level content
Is there a way to find out which spells are reflectable?
Is there a guideline or some intuitive ways?

[sweet summit]

the spell reflect WA that shows what spells are reflectable is out of date afaik
and as far as leveling content goes, i dont think people have put in a lot of time to figure out whats reflectable and not
we have a sheet in #268491842637660160 for max level content

[onyx vessel]

Most spells are reflectable cept shadow of zul

[versed widget]

does anyone know if lucid dreams major is bugged? it just gave me 510 leech

which was like 12%

vs the tooltip on the essence that says it gives 1457

[slate pond]

that sounds like youre comparing the major to the minor

[versed widget]

i used the on use

and went to 18% leech total, and i have 6.95% base

just used again and it's fine

but just before it gave me 510 and only 12% extra leech

[slate pond]

🤷

[versed widget]

super weird

[slate pond]

works fine for me

[versed widget]

yeah is working fine now, but i used it to test cos i wanted to see total leech % and it was wigging out

but now it's fine

[onyx vessel]

Running base leech

🤔

Better not be bloodsport

[sweet summit]

LEECH

[sick sentinel]

vers POG

[odd umbra]

guys

475 item haste +ver vs 465 item same stats + leech

[sick sentinel]

haste vers 475

[strong forum]

475

[odd umbra]

high key

[sick sentinel]

475

[odd umbra]

465 cri + vers + leech vs 465 haste + vers

[sick sentinel]

I'd use the haste

[onyx vessel]

Leech on gear not worth losing stats or ilvl

[hushed flicker]

azerite gear: which piece has HoD not on the same ring where BoM? I'm looking to build 3xBoM, 2xHoD, 1xDC

[calm magnet]

12% good for 15-17 keys or save echoes?

vers

[onyx vessel]

Helm off nzoth shoulders off carapare chest off vex

I think

[upper violet]

@calm magnet dont need to stack versa untill higher keys like 24+

theres a pin about it

[onyx vessel]

20

[calm magnet]

ohh tnx david

[hushed flicker]

greathelm of phantasmic reality: it has both on the same ring

[upper violet]

around the 20 range sure but at your level go big td

[onyx vessel]

Dc bom

Simple

[hushed flicker]

pauldrons of infinite darkness: has both on the same ring

[onyx vessel]

Skitra has bom hod op

Use skitra

Vex has bom hod

[hushed flicker]

right but I do HC runs mostly and the ilvl is lower (skitra, vex) compared to what I can buy at vendors (480)

[onyx vessel]

ilvl normally is better

skitra is very easy on mythic

couple good chests and helms from vendor

[hushed flicker]

thx for the quick help ;)

great community

[onyx vessel]

if you can kill nzoth you should be bonus rolling him the helm he drops is better then most of them

5ilvl off helm is defo worth

more then that no

[sick sentinel]

I like it when I'm the least healed person in the group as a tank

It's pogU

[stiff oracle]

😄

[onyx vessel]

just bought a bunch of vers amps

worth

time to grief some keys pull the whole dungeon and fang

[sweet summit]

[sweet hearth]

the thought of the explosive orbs is giving me an aneurism

[steep bone]

I tried playing with lucid major and if our pulls are planned i.ex not just random yolo is it worth playing it on like 15ish keys? That rage from lucid on bigger packs is amazing

[sweet summit]

[steep bone]

Just dunno correct rotation for it

[sweet summit]

spam IP

[steep bone]

but ofc still put sb into it

[sweet summit]

yeh

[steep bone]

and actually double avatar is so good

[sweet summit]

ya

[toxic gyro]

Lucid is good for big pulls bc it gives u insane healing, which is great in sone of the higher keys. U won’t get much value out of it in 15s

[steep bone]

I mean if i wanna go for 2-3pack pull my disc sometimes falls behind so helping him with that would be nice i guess

[toxic gyro]

Depends what packs u pull

Nothing really does dmg in 15 unless it’s heavy hitting caster

Like water attendants I’m shrine

Or casters in kr

[steep bone]

like 3packs next to 2nd boss in fh

[toxic gyro]

Or guards in wcm and you’re eating cleaves

[steep bone]

these guys are annoying, and we're pugging 2 dps so it's not always great with interrupts

[toxic gyro]

U only have to kick brinescale, mostly frost spell

Preferably all of them

All the other mobs shouldnt do much to you

You should still interrupt bladestorm from buccaneers and fixates from the other ones

But even if u don’t they shouldn’t do much dmg to you bc it’s all physical dmg

[sick sentinel]

You shouldn't get in trouble pulling 3 packs in fh with 0 vers. Its just explosive and interrupts

Unless you get hit on the back

[toxic gyro]

Exactly

It’s either you not maintaining active mitigation, getting hit in the back, or dps not killing orbs

[steep bone]

Hmm orbs aren't a problem, probs me just not doing stuffs correctly

[onyx vessel]

i did a couple keys with my guild explosive orbs dmg overall was 13m and 16m

wasnt even overpulling well maybe a little

[toxic gyro]

Vivv make sure you always have shield block up or last stand

You only don’t want to use SB on 3rd and 4th boss in ML, and shadow of zul in kr

Bc all their dmg is magic

[onyx vessel]

or stack vers and shield block everything

ss dmg increased

play how you want.

[toxic gyro]

I can’t really waste rage on those mobs

[onyx vessel]

you think hes doing 20s

[toxic gyro]

Maybe now that I bought my vers amps

[onyx vessel]

shit does low dmg

[toxic gyro]

I mean if he’s learning there is no reason to tell him to min max dmg when he should be focusing on staying alive and doing mechanics right

[onyx vessel]

spell reflect 3rd boss in ml

big dam

how to min max dmg

run TD

games hard

[steep bone]

oh third boss i kno to spell reflect

it's just muscle memory that uses SB on it anyway

and im like well shit

[onyx vessel]

switch binds

[toxic gyro]

Last boss in ml doesn’t do physical dmg

[onyx vessel]

ez clap

[toxic gyro]

His shoots are magic

You should reflect on cd Last boss in ml

[onyx vessel]

move ip to SB

[steep bone]

switch binds
@onyx vessel Then i'd use ip instead of sb

[onyx vessel]

no change

[sweet summit]

imean SB still increases SS damage

[onyx vessel]

[sweet summit]

big value

[onyx vessel]

run never surrender on ml tyran

ez

[sweet summit]

[onyx vessel]

most of the painful dmg is spells

[toxic gyro]

🙉

[onyx vessel]

[sweet summit]

you're not taking into account the 1 min CD reduction on LS

it adds up

[onyx vessel]

ahh shit last stand in 1min 30seocnds instead of 1min

oof

[sweet summit]

[onyx vessel]

cdr from am

[sweet summit]

i would not recommend it

[onyx vessel]

shit i dont even spam ip

on last 2 bosses in ml

spam sb and reflect the big dam

healers problem

[toxic gyro]

You do you lol

[onyx vessel]

boss dies faster

👍

now fort zul

smashing ip

[scarlet copper]

hey guys, as a new prot warrior, what would be your opinion on spending my echoes on for right now? I see vers 3 is out, but I still need all my azerites/essences/etc. Wasn't sure what would be the best bang for my buck righ tnow

I'm 450 ilevel and my cloak is rank 5

[orchid frigate]

any good tips on tanking the first 4 constructs in KR so its a bit more controlled? feels like i make them fan out their ability all over

or maybe just do them 2 on 2 :/

[sick sentinel]

lightfoot or leap, gather all of them

and through over and over

or rotate around without making them go towards the group

about it

practice

go in a M0

and just keep doing it

[lofty sequoia]

Guys .. in Atal Dazar, Its possible to spell reflect the Priests soak mechanics.. the boss Dude, Cant remember the name. But does it have a reverse effect then? 😂

[sick sentinel]

no

[outer laurel]

guys, i have a 475 piece with no haste, and a 470 piece with haste, is it worth swapping to a lower ilvl to get that extra 150 haste? Im not running full expedient

[strong forum]

ye id equip the 470

[limpid pawn]

465 crit haste socket vs 475 haste mastery socket gloves?

[amber siren]

ilvl

[strong forum]

ye mastery really isnt that terrible that you want to skip ilvl cuz of it

[deft vortex]

besides rezan's eye. Whats another good trinket to get out of mythic + dungeons for prot war?

[strong forum]

gore butchers block from waycrest manor

[deft vortex]

really not Jes's Howler?

[strong forum]

the 2min cd is meh

[vocal skiff]

Did AD today starting with rezan and then priestess, lust timers were fucked

[strong forum]

its an ok trinket to use, but passive procs are better

[vocal skiff]

I think rezan and then volkaal might be the play

[wanton meadow]

Why item level Is the best stats of peotection ???

[upper violet]

because it gives you more armor more str and more total stats

[wanton meadow]

But if the stats are not exactly i go for item level or stats

[sick sentinel]

stam and armor

also more stats with higher ilvl

and stats are pretty close in defensive value

[strong forum]

^

[sick sentinel]

only time you degrade ilvl is when the lower ilvl item has a socket or you have % corruption amps

that better increase the stats of the lower ilvl

rather than the higher ilvl one

[wanton meadow]

For m+ Key are Better crist haste or versa haste ?

[strong forum]

for low keys crit haste is better

[sick sentinel]

no idea but i've been running into brick walls all week on lower keys

[limpid pawn]

Stream and post the videos

[sick sentinel]

90f weather aint doing crap for me either i bet

[last mason]

would you guys swap aegis for null in shrine

[stiff oracle]

Nah

Just interupt

[strong forum]

in shrine i wouldnt use aegis either

[amber siren]

if those water bolts hit you, null isnt likely to save you

[limpid pawn]

99% of the issue is the lack of control in the dungeon

[orchid anvil]

first half of shrine is cancer unless your groups co-ordinated

[limpid pawn]

If water bolts are constantly going off and or not being LoS/ranged, you are not tanking properly, your group isn’t interrupting properly, and you most likely do not “deserve” that key timed because fundamentally you are not doing it right

If all the pulls were tank and spank, like 90% of the 480 ilevel tanks would be 4K io

[last mason]

thx professor

[limpid pawn]

No problem

[scarlet copper]

hey guys, sorry I normally hate asking questions like this, but for a newer prot warrior (ilevel 450) who has experience doing 20/21 keys, would you recommend a standard essence setup for me to use while I'm pushing this warrior higher?

basically I'm trying to optimize my echo usage

[orchid anvil]

low keys VoP- CNS/Null/SotW

[austere storm]

Vop major is the main thing, don't spend echoes on it

[scarlet copper]

yeah I figure I can farm vop pretty easily

other three I'll have to buy

[sweet summit]

buy cns and lucid asap

[orchid anvil]

eventually youll hit a point where you might want lucid but thats a bit further up the key ladder

[stiff oracle]

Why would he want null for lower keys

?

[austere storm]

I'd only buy cns right away and spend echoes on corruption

[sweet summit]

lucid is an amazing minor

[stiff oracle]

Lucid minor >>>>>> null

[sweet summit]

and great major the higher you go

[austere storm]

Lucid is pretty great too, especially if you do arms

[limpid pawn]

Lucid major is good to practice even on lower keys

[stiff oracle]

Eh

[sweet summit]

you dont really get the full value in low keys

[limpid pawn]

You have to play different when you use it, due to IP spam and getting second avatar back

[strong forum]

i hate using lucid on keys lower than 21

its so useless

[limpid pawn]

Yes, you are not getting full value but - it’s good to practice with

[sweet summit]

like packs die so fast i cant even use my 2nd avatar

[strong forum]

all you do is overheal

[wanton meadow]

Guys and the best corruption on war prot Is ????

[upper violet]

[sweet summit]

TD and IT

[stiff oracle]

Td

[austere storm]

Anyone ever use sphere minor for the haste or is it not worth at all?

[sweet summit]

very good

[stiff oracle]

Its good

[strong forum]

sphere is a solid minor

[sweet summit]

i use it a lot

[scarlet copper]

thanks for the advice guys, I just bought cns and I'll get lucid next

[orchid anvil]

good rule of thumb i was taught, Visions till you think there is a good chance you'll die. then swap to lucid

[stiff oracle]

Im still curious why you think he should be running null in lower keys @orchid anvil

[limpid pawn]

Lucid major, vision, warden, CNS minor for like 20+ keys

Vision and lucid swaps for lower keys

Generally

[orchid anvil]

dam mostly, he won't die in low keys and sometimes catches a missed kick

[stiff oracle]

Eh

I disagree

[austere storm]

I don't even have a 3rd bastion trait yet... Chest has eluded me for weeks now :(

[sweet summit]

thats fine

[strong forum]

unluck

[limpid pawn]

Full TD corruptions with haste enchants and gems all the way until 23+ keys for sure

Fill with IT to activate HoD

[scarlet copper]

ooh so don't stack vers yet?

[orchid anvil]

its purely preference

[sweet summit]

check the pins

[limpid pawn]

Then after 23+ keys change to full verse with 2x IT rank one

The answer to deaths below 23 keys is to play better

[scarlet copper]

sorry I know I can read pins, I just like to get conversation going and see people's different opinions

[limpid pawn]

That’s like the ultimate message in this discord from the 50 million times these questions are asked lol. “Play better”

[scarlet copper]

yeah I know that'll be my answer for a while haha, still have a lot to learn

[orchid anvil]

if you don't explain how they could of played better you are literally giving them nothing

[limpid pawn]

Ok good point

[scarlet copper]

I saw a video from rads talking about how you shouldn't use cooldowns reactively but proactively

that's osmething I really want to practice

I definitely hold onto my defensives too much

[limpid pawn]

Track all cool downs, do Not overlap things like shield block and last stand, make sure your anger management is being used to it’s full extent, do not overcap rage, make sure you are doing your rotation properly.

[last mason]

learn which packs give you trouble beforehand so you know going in which cds you are gonna use

[limpid pawn]

Be aware of the entire environment each pull - I.e. interrupt order, which mobs are casting dangerous spells that need disruption, positioning these mobs so frontal cone effects do not hit your group, ranging/LoSing properly

[sweet hearth]

I found the weakauras in #ui-addons-manager pins helpful for me starting out prot, especially for tracking SB / LS

[limpid pawn]

Using weakauras and addons to track your groups important CDs; pulling around fire mage combust; planning your defensive with things like pally wings so they don’t overlap

[scarlet copper]

Manic does that include the thing that puts the group's cooldowns to the left of their name in group chat? I see that one on streams a lot but don't know whta it is

[limpid pawn]

Do you know exactly when combust is coming back? Do you know if your mage just fonted? Is wings coming back soon? Do you know if each of the group members have their immunity up?

[orchid anvil]

thats a 2 part WA

[sweet hearth]

i didn't notice that one but now gonna try and find out

[orchid anvil]

i got you

@scarlet copper https://wago.io/PartyCDs

[scarlet copper]

you guys are awesome! wow

[orchid anvil]

download the backend and the addon needed

[limpid pawn]

Every thing I just said above is implied in “play better”

[orchid anvil]

or it won't work friendo

[sweet hearth]

@orchid anvil the real mvp, thanks

[last mason]

does that set come with an interupt tracker as well

[orchid anvil]

seperate one, there are heaps on wago

[sweet summit]

you can add a kick tracker to it yeh

[scarlet copper]

haha @limpid pawn I appreciate the explanations 😉

[orchid anvil]

https://wago.io/SkjHi61Bz
there ya go lads

[sweet hearth]

i was wondering how to pull for a mage when they don't have the announcer, will help a lot

[orchid anvil]

best way is to track combust and look for a font channel

[sweet hearth]

my worst habit so far is showing my back to stuff, guess that just takes practice though

[orchid anvil]

do you have your back pedal bound?

[sweet hearth]

yrsh

yeah *

[jaunty moth]

As a new prot warrior is it more worth to wait for IT1 to come back than to get IT2 now?

[orchid anvil]

backpedal like a fucking mofo

[sweet summit]

https://pastebin.com/cv5uyZeP take this if you want to pull around mages

[sweet hearth]

but fury main and used to jumping and spinning everywhere

[sweet summit]

makes a sound when they font and shows a 20 sec countdown

[upper violet]

IT2 sucks

[orchid anvil]

@jaunty moth wait for it

[sweet hearth]

oo nice thanks Rosjen

[orchid anvil]

IT2 sucks

[jaunty moth]

Good to know thanks

[orchid anvil]

You will only need the vers amp/IT build once you start pushing up

[last mason]

dont pull around pug mages

[sweet hearth]

i have TD5 and IT1 atm, but only doing like 15 and under to practice

[last mason]

they are never worth

[orchid anvil]

you'll be fine manic

[sweet hearth]

TD 5 certainly makes threat not a problem so far lol

[jaunty moth]

So if I’m doing 15+ is when I would want to get IT, otherwise stack TD?

[orchid anvil]

until you feel like you are gunna die, stack TD for days

[sweet summit]

IT is a good filler, TD is what you want to stack

[sweet hearth]

i really like the IT1, it makes last stand and avatar uptime so nice

[orchid anvil]

IT makes everything flow smooth af with AM

[sweet hearth]

i was gonna do a vers amp build, but burnt all my echoes on fury

[orchid anvil]

what kind of keys do you wanna do as a tank @sweet hearth

[limpid pawn]

Just for reference, I carry people nonstop and have made over 70 million gold in BFA alone. I use TD5 and full haste gems and enchants. I do enough DPS to entirely make up for one person being brain dead

[sweet hearth]

i've fury mained for years cause i love the spec, my goal is mainly to be competent at tanking, guess my goal is at least some 20's

[limpid pawn]

This is for +15 keys and 5 mask visions

[sweet hearth]

70 million gold discretely looks at my 24k balance

[orchid anvil]

you should learn to be comfy on prot before you go deep on damage imo

[sweet hearth]

yeah i've mainly been running 10-14's to get comfortable, i haven't died stupidly yet

but at that level stuff only tickles

[orchid anvil]

stack vers on pieces of gear, get some td. go clap and climb keys.

[sweet hearth]

im at like 10% vers with the most vers i have in my bags atm, no amp

30% haste, 32% mastery

[orchid anvil]

yer dip that mastery real hard

haha

[sweet hearth]

ah ok ^-^

[orchid anvil]

haste/vers is your goal

[limpid pawn]

For higher keys

[strong forum]

for higher keys

[orchid anvil]

^^

[sweet hearth]

makes me cringe when i think of all the gear i scrapped when i had the im never playing prot mindset

[limpid pawn]

For 0-23 range haste crit is your goal

[strong forum]

i mean you can recover scrapped gear

[sweet hearth]

even scrapped? thought that was only vendored

[strong forum]

even scrapped

[limpid pawn]

And for 0-23 “play better” is the goal

[orchid anvil]

its like 1 piece every 2 weeks last i checked

[sweet hearth]

that's what imt rying to do Brollikk 😛

[strong forum]

no you can recover as many pieces as you want in 1 go

[sweet hearth]

gonna check recovery, maybe some juicy pieces

[strong forum]

theres a CD on it for 2 weeks yes, but you can recover literally 300 items

[limpid pawn]

I slap myself in the face every m+ and scream play better

[sweet hearth]

i assumed you couldn't scrapped stuff cause you get ores and shit in return

[strong forum]

well you have to give back ores and shit

simple as that

[sweet hearth]

rip cause they all been vendored lol

[limpid pawn]

Sometimes if I don’t time a 20-22 key I just look at myself in the mirror and scream play better

Then I watch nerftank for 3 hours and queue up again

[orchid anvil]

i record every key i do above a 21 and figure out where i could of done betetr

[strong forum]

na we just do that live

we yolo like 90% of keys

tends to work out

cba tryharding

[sweet hearth]

always been too nervous to tank for some reason, i see the hate they always get in keys

[strong forum]

thats why you dont pug

[sweet hearth]

for every expansion

[lucid dew]

Why are all the top players using alchemist stone now?

[strong forum]

vers

[orchid anvil]

Best thing i ever did when learning to tank was finding a healer i could play with a lot

[sweet hearth]

most my friends are pretty casual ^-^

[smoky terrace]

any tips for learning protection ive been playing arms in all content basicly

[orchid anvil]

find any youtuber that covers the basics

[strong forum]

#268491842637660160 and scroll up in here aswell

[sweet hearth]

restoration was successful, thanks ^-^

Iron Fortress of Tradewinds?

[left hatch]

depends on your shield ilvl

470+ id go Tradewinds

[sweet hearth]

465 AD shield

[left hatch]

IF then

[sweet hearth]

sweet ok thank you

Brace for impact good? it's either that or a second deafening which i know isn't ideal

[left hatch]

yeh

big block value

decent ST damage

[sweet hearth]

sweet

[scarlet copper]

do explosives not give victory rush in keys anymore?

[daring bay]

Why do the guides say 1-2 IT like i can pick but idk if i go 1 or 2

[olive gust]

running nothing higher than a 15 what essences are recommended ?

[warm plinth]

VoP major, C&S/Lucid/Strength (or Formless if someone is running CoF major)

Sphere is fine too if you don't need the corruption resistance

[stiff oracle]

Jewelcrafting for crafted rings aye?

[warm plinth]

If you're about that life, sure

[stiff oracle]

Not for my prot spec i aint

[vital plover]

Would you guys recommend going for full 465 gear with vers+haste on as many pieces as possible or equip 475 pieces in some of the slots regardless of stats?

[stiff oracle]

Gotta get that phat vers ring on my sham

Ilvl is king

[quiet mauve]

playing to iLVL is kinda more fun aswell

[vital plover]

Yeah the reason I'm asking is because I'm thinking about adding 3-4 vers corruption to my gear later tonight when the vendor flips

[olive gust]

so CotF isnt worth running major?

[vital plover]

What is the lowest recommended amount of haste?

[quiet mauve]

ahhh youre better off stacking verse 465 pieces then IMO since you want the most out of verse per corruption point

[olive gust]

i lied didnt realize avatar increased dmg by 20%

[vital plover]

Yeah okay

[strong forum]

lowest amount of recommended haste is 20% before ITF

[green flume]

Gunshing wound its still good for using it?

[strong forum]

not really for tanks

[green flume]

Should i remplace it for an versatile 3?

[strong forum]

its only good in ST situations

[daring bay]

Isnt the treshhold for 3 SB in a row like 24%haste or somthing?

[strong forum]

20-22%

[cedar nacelle]

!stat

!mastery

[strong forum]

theres no commands in this discord

[deep folio]

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/stormscale/sayed guys can someone have a look and let me know if any changes are needed to my gear and what lvl keys im good for or should be good for

[strong forum]

your gloves belt and legs are terrible

[deep folio]

ok they need changing got it

[strong forum]

you should be able to do 25+ with that gear, regardless

[orchid frigate]

whats wrong with gloves?

[strong forum]

no haste?

[orchid frigate]

belt i mean

aha

[deep folio]

i should be stacking haste and versa now right?

[strong forum]

yes

[deep folio]

thanks mate much appreciated

[strong forum]

if you wish to push 23+

youre needlessly stacking vers currently

[orchid frigate]

now i feel bad over my gear 😦

[strong forum]

🤷‍♂️

no need to feel bad

unless youre prioritizing vers over haste without running 6x versatile

[orchid frigate]

nah

just been a bit unlucky i guess

[icy harness]

haste vers is fine tbh

haste is a comfy stat

and vers buffs your TD anyway

[orchid frigate]

❤️ haste

[icy harness]

even if you dont have versatile

[strong forum]

nobody is arguing that point

[icy harness]

haste vers is wholesome

[strong forum]

what im arguing is prioritizing vers

[icy harness]

im just making a man feel better

[strong forum]

over haste

[icy harness]

😔

[deep folio]

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/stormscale/sayed this is a better set up for lower keys say sub 20?

[stiff oracle]

Why are u gemming vers

[deep folio]

swap to haste?

[stiff oracle]

Yes

[deep folio]

ok ty

[upper violet]

also swap enchant

[deep folio]

Force?

on weapon?

[sweet summit]

ya

[upper violet]

ya

[deep folio]

cheers 🙂

[sweet hearth]

465 Rezan's gleaming eye or 475 sigil or warding?

[left hatch]

eye

[strong forum]

rezan

[left hatch]

warding is a shitty version of LPS

[sweet hearth]

yeah the 2m cooldown feels harsh

i like it on zul though

[left hatch]

and in itself isn't that good outside of like... 3 instances in raid

even then, LPS is better

[icy harness]

@sweet summit I was full vers 😭

[sweet hearth]

it could be rezans or marektha's for the meme

both 465

[left hatch]

rezans great

marektha's awful

[sweet hearth]

but the meme 😦

[left hatch]

like.... at that point id even take the haste punchard from mechagon

[sweet summit]

😳

[deep folio]

should i be putting the 12% versatile tonight on mostly versa haste pieces or would you guys say stick em on my crit haste set??

[cursive burrow]

The % is only good the more of it you have. So put it on Vers/haste set.

[strong forum]

On haste/vers gear

[deep folio]

thanks guys

[strong forum]

Never put it on anything but haste/vers

[icy harness]

@sweet summit would you mind taking a look?

😳

[sweet summit]

i am scared

[orchid frigate]

seems a lot of warriors take CnS as major in SoB?

whats the deal-eo?

[sick sentinel]

so the adds don't kite away

a lot of humanoid mobs that run away in fear

[orchid frigate]

ah

[marble cipher]

Well, yes and no

If you time it perfectly, with CnS and Avatar you can stop second boss from jumping to the boat till avatar is over

[sick sentinel]

uh no

[orchid frigate]

wow that would be awesome

[marble cipher]

I only know this as a theory and having seen it done by Nerf, don't know how exactly it works

[sick sentinel]

That wasn't cns doing it

[strong forum]

you can delay it by like 2-3 sec TOPS

[sick sentinel]

that's chaining typhoon

with knockbacks

[marble cipher]

Is it only 2-3s? Seemed to be way longer in the nerftank vod I saw. But, might be, I haven't tried it at all

[orchid frigate]

2-3 seconds isnt much. would that really justify using it as major?

[strong forum]

thats not why they play it

[sick sentinel]

..

[strong forum]

kyothi already said why

[sick sentinel]

siege is purely spotter work

You use cns to perm root them in spotter areas

...

[slate pond]

https://youtu.be/B0THh2m6Wmo?t=855

[orchid frigate]

ah ok

[slate pond]

the boss stays till his avatar is gone

[marble cipher]

10 seconds, just counted

Going by the bigwigs timer anyway

[sick sentinel]

That's still not why they do it tho, it's a bonus but to say that's why they do it entirely isn't right

[marble cipher]

But yeah, that's only a small part of it, spotter mob control is the real reason

I didn't say that, I just chimed in that it's also a reason I would run it.

[sick sentinel]

frenderToday at 11:44 AM
2-3 seconds isnt much. would that really justify using it as major?

I'm just going by what he said

not you

[ripe shale]

we all know the real reason is to pump with giga vers

[marble cipher]

But, I understand my 'well yes, and no' seemed to imply I meant 'withdraw' was the main reason, mea culpa

[sick sentinel]

in other keys sure

@ripe shale

but main reason is still spotter work

okay i got a log and hopefully recording on a random pug ad 12

[icy harness]

dOnT LoG M+

[sweet summit]

🤔

[sick sentinel]

if i'm failing 15 keys, might be worth taking a deep dive into why..

[icy harness]

link ya gear again, if you did it before

but, you could be not using cds properly or just having a russian healer

[sweet summit]

[sick sentinel]

just tank it 4head

[stiff oracle]

[versed hull]

Any experts able to tell me what i should use my titanium residium for (ALT warrior) - for M+

I guess I'll have access to vexiona mythic but not nzoth/cara

[upper violet]

not expert thing

just gamble

or take good for expensive

[versed hull]

yes but what is the optimal gamble out of head/shoulders

[sick sentinel]

1 DC 3 BOM 2 ??? is wht you want ideally

[stiff oracle]

?

[sick sentinel]

i'm a 0 BOM andy

deafening crash x1 because you only need one, 3 bastion of might for mastery and IP on vison then whatever you want

[chilly brook]

@versed hull its not rocket science, get ideal traits, if you want more specifics check the icy veins guide

[stiff oracle]

Just make sure you have 1 DC, 3x BOM, HoD/CHW and impassive is amazing

[sick sentinel]

i think someone was saying that engineer helmet is good for us, and that only 2 RNG helms have chance of having bom

4th best we can have

[left hatch]

@versed hull optimal pieces are Abyssal Malevolence helm, Skittra Shoulders and Mechanized Chassis chest

[limpid pawn]

Or vexiona chest

Which some people prefer

[left hatch]

yeh, basically a tossup of IV vs OP

between the 2

[steep bone]

any good?

[left hatch]

worst trinket in the game

has absolutely 0 value

[strong forum]

absolutely terrible

[steep bone]

that's what i thought

And on last boss in workshop i mean that robot, besides spell reflecting and spamming IP is there anything i can do because that dude is literally raping my ass

[still pagoda]

this trinket is even worse than sporepods

[strong forum]

na not really vivv

its pure magic dmg on 1st phase

[orchid frigate]

Wonder if blizzard makes some items intentionally bad as a trap

[sick sentinel]

speaking of trinkets, i got a 460 rezan today from a +12

[orchid frigate]

Or they don’t know themselves

[sick sentinel]

replaces my 450 rezan

[orchid frigate]

Nice yogi

[daring bay]

Easy for items with wierd effects to easily become OP, look at the mage wrists. Think they just undertune all of them just incase

[steep bone]

I think mage would still pump just not as much

[sick sentinel]

i got 475 mechashield and 2 465 fusion hackers, would prefer stats i think.

[bold plover]

WTB shield

[sick sentinel]

oh god

anima

warden and strength

[still pagoda]

OH HOD

GOD*

[sick sentinel]

SPORE PODS

The worst essences in the game

[bold plover]

new character but can still tank 15s

ITS ALL IM GETTING

[sick sentinel]

spore pods

[bold plover]

DONT JUDGE ME

[sick sentinel]

run away

[sweet summit]

🏃‍♂️

[bold plover]

oi; all I'm getting 😢

Give me a break; toons like 2 days old if that. I just want a new shield

yeah 1 day 7 hours played.

[mental needle]

does anybody run 3x deafening crash and 3x bastion of might? is it worth the damage if you are just doing lower keys? (below 15)

[strong forum]

typically its not advised to run 3x DC anymore

however if youre literally just memeing on low AF keys

sure go ahead

[mental needle]

👍

[sweet summit]

help

[strong forum]

nice nameplates

[sweet summit]

thank

[obtuse yoke]

i wonder if i can full clear a vision at rank 8 cloak

[strong forum]

people have done it on r5

but thats full stack group with 3x the extra sanity

[warm plinth]

EE is a bigger difference than cloak level tbh

[obtuse yoke]

ah, i run it solo

[warm plinth]

EE is usually the deciding factor between full clearing and not for most people

[sweet summit]

EE is epic

[obtuse yoke]

i think i get EE after next run i do

need 1k memetoes

are there any prot tricks for orgrimmar? my main is a hunter and the amount of mechanics you can ignore with feign/turtle is insane

[warm plinth]

Spell reflection negates split personality if you need to run through it

[strange tide]

Rexxar Boars are a non issue with stormbolt, pummel, intimidating shout, shockwave

[warm plinth]

The two biggest tricks for Orgrimmar are for everyone though. Both Drag bosses can have their mechanics negated by standing inside of the boss. The first one is really easy to do since he won't move, but the second boss you wait til he starts casting Void Torrent, then move inside of him

And you avoid void torrent while still being able to DPS

First boss you literally pull him, stand inside him, and just jump to drop bugs

[strange tide]

Can you spell reflect that cries of the void shield explosion? I can’t seem to DPS it down without a TD proc

The thrall one I mean, the drag one seems to be much easier

[left hatch]

you cannot

sometimes even on my hdh i just have to eat it

but its basically the only sanity damage you take in the fight anyway

[obtuse yoke]

you can move inside him during void torrent? that is so good

if you stand inside first boss does it not push you back?

thanks for the tips!

I think I need to get used to pulling bigger, i'm used to taking things easy and slow on my hunter/lock

[warm plinth]

It doesn't push you back, nor does the orb of annihilation hit you

There's no reason to care about cries of the void on Thrall

It's unlikely you'll break it without CDs+Gift+TD probably on a 5 mask, and it only does 18 sanity damage no matter how much of it is left (despite what the tooltip says)

Not worth wasting shit on the shield

[radiant path]

This might be a stupid question... But does anyone in this disc do coaching for prot warrior? I'm not sure if this is just a bad week, but I feel like I get hit suuuper hard. And when I watch streamers like Floorpov, they can sometimes pull like 4 mob packs and not take any damage and their hps is insane. Is their blocking damage being added into that somehow? Because I've noticed that mine doesn't.

[sweet summit]

you can post logs and we take a look for free

[stray dune]

is the Servant splitter from Waycrest manor and good for prot or do i want to stick with a weapon that gives stats?

[strong forum]

for ST its bis

[radiant path]

Ok... Apparently I'm even worse than I thought haha. Do I download an addon for that?

[sweet summit]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/help/start

[radiant path]

Thanks!

[obtuse yoke]

kk got EE, i feel like i should be able to full clear now

[sweet summit]

[radiant path]

What do yall mean by EE?

Elite extermination

ignore me

haha

[steep bone]

my experience in shrine

[tame garden]

Elemental exposure

[radiant path]

So from this "Getting Started" page on Warcraft logs, it keeps saying "raiding" ... I'm just assuming that also includes M+?

[sweet summit]

yeah

you can log mostly anything you do

i dont think u can log pvp tho

[upper violet]

shrine is the devil

tbh

[radiant path]

Ok cool 🙂 So right before the dungeon starts, do I just hit the "Live Log" button then?

[sweet summit]

and also make sure advanced combatlog is enabled and you typed/have a macro with /combatlog

some addons auto log instances

[radiant path]

Ok, so I saw that on the page and was my next question... It doesn't say where that is. Is it in the game settings or something on the web site?

[sweet summit]

what is?

[radiant path]

Advanced combat log

[tame garden]

Under network settings

[radiant path]

Sweet. found it, thanks!

[steep bone]

actually on second boss in shrine, is there safe spot for me to just stay 24/7 and not get hit by tornados?

because i've always seen tanks just running around

[obtuse yoke]

damage or haste?

[upper violet]

i go for haste

but u will get everything later so doesnt matter rly

[obtuse yoke]

Yeah for sure

Just trying to find the most efficient route so i can maximize mementoes

Quicker i get gift the better, and begin working on the socket grind

[bold plover]

Ok cool 🙂 So right before the dungeon starts, do I just hit the "Live Log" button then?
@radiant path I think you can just hit it once when you log on and it’ll log everything until you log off, even if you run like 300 instances and then log off it’ll lov it all without needing to /combatlog again

So no need to just keep doing it for every dungeon, then again last time I used the logging system was legion so

[sweet hearth]

I use an addon called LoggerHead to automate logging

you can choose which instances it enables for

[warm plinth]

Yeah I love Loggerhead

It asks you whenever you start a key if you want to log that dungeon on challenge mode, you say yes, it autologs forever

[ancient shoal]

I switched to Vers build and lost like 15% haste. and couple of Ilvls. Is that still better for 20? Coz I feel so clunky now.

[limpid pawn]

hey, what'st he best way to avoid the indigestion from crag'maw underrrot?

[strong forum]

running away

[limpid pawn]

like straight back away from it?

[strong forum]

ye

[limpid pawn]

im afraid of turning him to the dps and killign them

so i just pop mitigation and take it

[strong forum]

well you dont turn

[limpid pawn]

but i wanna avoid it entirely

[strong forum]

you run straight back

you can literally just outrun it

[limpid pawn]

ok

can't back pedal right? it has to be run speed?

[strong forum]

yes

you have to time it perfectly

otherwise youll still get hit

you can barely outrun it

[ancient shoal]

[limpid pawn]

oh, just jumping backwards will range too right

[radiant path]

Sweet! Thanks everyone!

[craggy osprey]

Ey im pretty new to prot warrior. What would be the second best stat after vers for mainly survivability?

[sweet summit]

dont think about vers

haste owns more

giga stacking vers is only for the highest keys

general rule of thumb is ilvl>haste>crit for m+

[ancient shoal]

Highest being?

20+?

[still pagoda]

25+

let me correct you

:d

[sweet summit]

+23 ish is when people start looking into vers

[still pagoda]

+23ish you start seeing people using small bits of verse

+25ish is the full vers domain

[rigid sinew]

25 or bust tbh

[ancient shoal]

So I did wrong that switched to vers if I only plan to do 20s?

[undone sun]

Not exactly black or white when one goes for vers, it's case by case

[still pagoda]

i also plan to cease for now and do +20-21 weekly and go on

and i don't have any vers

and it is still really comfortable

[ancient shoal]

ok thanks

[left hatch]

at 20's versa can save you from mistakes now and then, but overall (esp if you're comfortable with your playing) haste is a better stat

versa takes a hell of a lot to scale up (86 per .5% dr)

and realistically even getting enough for like... 15% more dr (30% versa more) isn't going to be a sub in for a group that truly sucks at interrupting

[ancient shoal]

It feels a lot clunkier after I stacked vers, I guess I'll check it for couple of days to have some data to compare

[still pagoda]

and technically, there's not so many places in BfA dungeons where you can make mistakes as a tank

except for routes

It feels a lot clunkier after I stacked vers, I guess I'll check it for couple of days to have some data to compare
@ancient shoal

I smell someone dropping all haste

[ancient shoal]

-15%

[still pagoda]

and where you're now?

[rigid sinew]

i mean if u r even considering vers at 20 keys then theres clearly something else going wrong

[left hatch]

did you at least keep your 2 IT1's?

[still pagoda]

15? 20?

[ancient shoal]

18 unbuffed

[rigid sinew]

18% haste?

[ancient shoal]

ye

[left hatch]

yike

[rigid sinew]

holy oof

[strong forum]

thats way too low my guy

[rigid sinew]

thats less than i have in my vers set lmao

[strong forum]

i feel uncomfortable dropping below 30% haste

tbh

[rigid sinew]

even below 35% u can really feel it

[ancient shoal]

That's without a tallent haste buff

[strong forum]

yes

[still pagoda]

i mean if u r even considering vers at 20 keys then theres clearly something else going wrong
@rigid sinew

A spectre is haunting #protection... The spectre of people who play wrong

[rigid sinew]

kekw

[still pagoda]

i feel uncomfy dropping below 35%

now at least

since i've been running 37-40% for the last week

[left hatch]

i wouldn't say playing wrong, its just people that copy super high end keys without fully understanding why

or how the kit works fully

which is fine

[rigid sinew]

^

[still pagoda]

understandable

[ancient shoal]

That's why I asked tbh

[left hatch]

yeh versa is our 3rd best stat in M+ for 99% of keys

[rigid sinew]

do u play with a regular team

[left hatch]

it scales super fucking slow

[rigid sinew]

grampy

[left hatch]

and is a less efficient mitigation stat for the vast majority of damage you come across in keys

[still pagoda]

do u play with a regular team

The only regular bro i play with is a healer.

[rigid sinew]

F

[ancient shoal]

I feel really good with random groups, but my const party have some struggles sometimes. << Ерфеы ащк ф тщт мукы игшдв

And I was going for making it easier for them

[limpid pawn]

just happened to get extra +208 leech on pieces of my gear

[left hatch]

haste interacts with virtually every part of our kit, and because of rage gen and uptime on SB is the best stat for damage mitigation at ANY level. full stop

[limpid pawn]

that seems significant

[strong forum]

well its 6%

[left hatch]

versa is braindead, because you gain from it even if you afk and don't hit anything

but people only stack it at high end because you literally need it to survive burst damage

and 1-shots

[still pagoda]

<< Ерфеы ащк ф тщт мукы игшдв
@ancient shoal

Oh, добро пожаловать

[left hatch]

which.... doesn't (or at least shouldn't be) happening in 20's

[limpid pawn]

actually 216

[upper violet]

This is an english server

[left hatch]

and if it does theres more you can look at in your play

rage usage, uptime of SB etc

[rigid sinew]

english pls im smol brain

[strong forum]

thats a juicy trinket

[limpid pawn]

that's actually a ton of healing throughout a dungeon

well juicy everything

[obtuse yoke]

does anyone have a good plater profile for m+?

[upper violet]

I know how to read russian but im slow at it

[ancient shoal]

@ancient shoal

Oh, добро пожаловать
@still pagoda "Which is for a non-vers build" sorry about that.

[still pagoda]

it's fine

i've just seen someone accidentally using Cyrillic

[ancient shoal]

do u play with a regular team
@rigid sinew not really. Sometimes I run with a healer from guild but most of the time its just randoms.

[rigid sinew]

F

[sweet hearth]

can only get to 30% haste with my current gear 😦

[undone sun]

Ok

[still pagoda]

that's totally fine

30% is already good

[left hatch]

as long as you're going for ilvl>all

[sweet hearth]

well, sort of, I am without using my sevre clad fury gear

[left hatch]

(provided you arn't in the like 24+ range and going for amps)

yo'ure doing fine

[formal grail]

So as a new prot warrior, guess stacking haste after ofc taking highest ilvl will at least sort the gear a bit? Been farming nzoth hc for the trinket for ages now and idk, maybe I should give up altogether (I tank smol keys like 12-15)

[still pagoda]

LPS is not needed in keys lower than 20-21

and even in them it is pretty questionable

[upper violet]

Get vita and scale my guy

[narrow stream]

Lps is a great crutch for while you're learning if you can get it in hc

I would get it if I'm rolling nzoth

It's an extra cooldown every minute

Let's you pull bigger and is a second shield wall every minute.

Ultra useful

20 or not

[sick sentinel]

Is it more important to use more cooldowns in combat, or at the right time?

i always get confused if i should be doing SW or LS

[strong forum]

LS is to fill SB gaps

SW is used before you know you will take alot of dmg

say big pulls or certain mechanics that just hurt alot

[sweet summit]

SW can also be used to cover additional SB/LS gaps

[sharp lotus]

What did you guys think of this raid tier?

[radiant path]

So do I just send you guys the link to a log I uploaded?

And you can actually make sense of it? haha

[sweet summit]

yea just link the URL here

[radiant path]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/jP1hYdkRg2Z9KHxp/#fight=last&view=rankings&playermetric=playerscore

[sweet summit]

is there any specific point you were having trouble or do you just want a general overview?

[radiant path]

General over view... I honestly have no idea what I'm doing and would like tips on any mistakes you can see

Not using cd's enough, capping rage, etc

[sweet summit]

first of all, you dont have a single DC trait, that kinda sucks :/
your weapon is not enchanted and one of your rings are enchanted with vers, i recommend just enchanting/gemming haste and using force multiplier on weapon
you also have (literal garbage) :(

[radiant path]

Oh, it is? haha

I'll go buy an enchant right now!

[sweet summit]

also uhhh

[radiant path]

Well thats good to know 😹

[sweet summit]

thats A LOT of wasted rage

[radiant path]

What does that mean

Ok

[sweet summit]

you want to waste 0 rage

if you are close to overcaping on rage

hit ignore pain

you use ignore pain do dump rage, but dont dump too much. you still want 30 rage ready for when you need to use shield block

[radiant path]

Sweet

[sweet summit]

here you can see what spells you used that made you overcap rage if it helps

the one called "rage" is just the passive rage you gain from auto attacking and getting hit afaik

id recommend using vision of perfection until you're more comfortable on the spec

lucid dreams major isnt doing much when you waste most of the rage

[radiant path]

Ok cool!

I'll switch that as well

Should I still keep it as a minor?

[sweet summit]

lucid is still a very good minor, so just swap vision to major and lucid as minor

yeah!

[radiant path]

Or go with anima/strength?

K cool

[sweet summit]

anima is actually the worst minor essence

[radiant path]

Oh haha

[sweet summit]

its very bad :/

[radiant path]

Good to know 😂

Alright, going into a 15 atal... Lets see if I do any better haha

[bold plover]

anima is actually the worst minor essence
@sweet summit @ me next time

[sharp lotus]

good luck

[radiant path]

Can you block while doing the Merektha's fang?

[sweet summit]

one more thing, you might want to work on your shield block/last stand uptime in the atal

no you cant

[radiant path]

Ok, will do!

[sweet summit]

45% blocked melees is a bit on the lower side

[radiant path]

So I probably shouldn't even use that one

[sweet summit]

its very good if all youre after is big dam

[still pagoda]

80%+ is a good amount depending on the fight

[radiant path]

So should I keep spore pods until then?

[still pagoda]

no

[sweet summit]

depends on what else you have

[radiant path]

Its between spore and merekthas

But I can't block damage with merekthas

thats scary haha

[sweet summit]

id just stick to pods for now then

[radiant path]

k

[sweet summit]

how much corruption do you have

im too lazy to do math atm

after resistance*

[radiant path]

44 with 42 resistance. I was told here to save for TD

so i'm sitting at 2

[sweet summit]

yeah thats what i thought :/

[radiant path]

I have 2 ineffables though

[sweet summit]

you have 2 dead traits, in heart of darkness

[radiant path]

I was told that heart of darkness was way good

[sweet summit]

they give 0 value unless you have over 25 corruption after resistance

[strong forum]

you need to have 25 corruption for it to be active 🙂

[radiant path]

Oh shit

duh

you right

lollzzz

I'm an idiot

[sweet summit]

unequip cloak

[strong forum]

📈

[radiant path]

stonks

[sick sentinel]

how to win at atal dazar
step 1: bring a huntard
win

[strong forum]

step 1: equip TD
step 2: press TD (doesnt always work)
step 3: ???
step 5: profit

[sick sentinel]

heroic leaping at rezan and using SW soon after helps too

[sick sentinel]

i got td3 and it 1 (x2) now anyway

[limpid pawn]

versatile 3 boys

[halcyon coyote]

grats

[limpid pawn]

making that set

[sweet summit]

how much vers is that

[strong forum]

enough

👍

[sweet summit]

you sure 🤔

[sick sentinel]

3 is 12% from sources right? so 96%?

[strong forum]

according to my calculations its alot

[sweet summit]

i see

[obtuse yoke]

all melee on last boss of temple hurts this week 😦

[sweet summit]

[sick sentinel]

I have learned hard way to never ever do 4/5 plate wearers and/or all melee with no ranged

[sweet summit]

i can only get like 7 vers3s total this week

feelsbadman

[sick sentinel]

5 plat wearers in a key is a dead key

[warm plinth]

Why would 5 plate wearers be a dead key?

[sick sentinel]

i've seen it

[rigid sinew]

[main vault]

Only if they are bad

[sweet summit]

everyone is bad

change my mind

[still pagoda]

how to win at atal dazar
step 1: bring a huntard
win
@sick sentinel

1. Bring your own hands
2. click heroic strike and run to snap spot
   3.???????
   4.PROFIT

📈

[sweet summit]

HEROIC STRIKE

[still pagoda]

heroic throw*

[sweet summit]

heroic strike where

😢

[still pagoda]

when*

Blizzard, please

[sharp lotus]

fuck heroic strike

[sweet summit]

excuse you?

[warm plinth]

I do not understand missing Heroic Strike.

[sweet summit]

[still pagoda]

just an iconic ability

a really iconic ability

[warm plinth]

Who doesn't love having to press a button and wait for your next weapon swing to be able to use another ability...

[sweet summit]

you dont have to wait when you have a lot of haste

[still pagoda]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yplLvSFTtF8

Meanwhile on SL alpha

New Atal Dazar it seems

[strong forum]

tfw bought 0 vers3

miss me with that

[still pagoda]

tfw bought 0 vers3

2xIT1's and nothing else

played PoE for the last day

[sweet summit]

imma buy 2 more

and you cant do anything about it

[strong forum]

youve used more echoes this week than i have gathered total

[still pagoda]

^

[sweet summit]

ive only used 26k this week

thats not a lot

[strong forum]

ye sounds about aight

i bought TD3/TD2 and 2x IT1

total

ah and 2x vers 3 in first rotation

[sweet summit]

i bought 3 expedient 3s, some severes, some expedient 2s. 2x IT1s and 4 vers3s for now

feelsbad playing all 3 specs

[strong forum]

better than playing 0.8 specs

like me

[still pagoda]

i bought 2 IT1's