WHY
#protection
still pagoda
limpid birch
just infinitely chain cds
karton MW healing has become painful in some dungeons after rm nerf
u cant indef extend env anymore
u actually need mana now
still pagoda
i don't have any other char with healing spec at 120
limpid birch
but
still pagoda
not on Kazzak
modern brook
Every mw ive ever played w/ needs to drink after a 3 pack
IDK if they're just massively overhealing or what
limpid birch
^ bad usage of WOTC
modern brook
but its made me never want to play the spec
limpid birch
well
WOTC is omega healing but also 25k mana
used well= never drink
used bad= alcoholic
limpid birch
yes
still pagoda
you can just mana tea it and pray for everything to go well
limpid birch
just play crane for mana
like
crane talent in manatea row
and ull be fine if ur grp doesnt need their ass wiped every 2 sec
modern brook
on MW?
limpid birch
do u have maut trinket? claw?
still pagoda
no
proven breach
I like my ass wiped regularly tyvm
still pagoda
i've only started getting gear for MW
modern brook
Karton's still following laws lol
still pagoda
and the only thing i have is SotS trinket
modern brook
gotta get that claw brother.
limpid birch
you definitely NEED claw.
claw after wotc and ull be 90+% maan
if u started with 100
modern brook
Claw is probably my favorite trinket period.
limpid birch
claw is also best trinket period
modern brook
LOL when my druid was still gearing
upper violet
just do a wq and get like 420 staf
modern brook
i couldnt afford an int dagger
upper violet
rofl
limpid birch
🤷🏼
carapace weapon is good
or xanesh
carapace only purge tho
u dont want stars
limpid birch
limpid birch
i mean
still pagoda
i mean... I have this in my slot
limpid birch
anz difference in what
still pagoda
and LPS in the second trinket slot
in healing. Since 3k int is somewhat "big"
compared to agi polearm
limpid birch
u def want an int weapon
still pagoda
yes, and i don't think i can heal normally with agi one
still pagoda
exactly
limpid birch
feels MW Main man
still pagoda
still pagoda
only next week if i'll get lucky
limpid birch
alchemist stone is also good btw
still pagoda
gonna coin maut and maybe Raden on our Thursday alt run
limpid birch
but only if u dont have 475 vita
limpid birch
not being alchemist
ionic fern
Professions in 2020, smh.
upper violet
living in 2020
limpid birch
also for azerite u want maut head, gorak tul shoulders, vest of reverent adoration for m+ at least
still pagoda
Gorak Tul mantle purely for SeI+BBI? @limpid birch
:D
not every class gets to use Blightborne infusion in their bis pieces
still pagoda
this shit looks like that for now. Technically not playable due to lack of trinket and int weapon
just equipped TD2 gloves and got to 40 corruption to activate HoD's
upper violet
why is zuldazar so bad holy shit
mortal brook
terrible city. Boralus so much nicer
still pagoda
i was kinda hesitating to use Zuldazar as a hub after faction swap
grew on me with time :D
modern brook
its absolute dog shit dude
pre-flying it was a literal 1.5 gold tax just to get from portals to shop keeps
mortal brook
grew on me with time :D
yeah cuz everything takes extra time to get to. ofc it grows on ya. like a heckin fungus grows on ya
modern brook
they had to make it big so it could be a raid
but they didnt even make that raid fun
so grimace
strong forum
Bod was fun, Mekka and stormwall weren't, but council and jaina were 👌
still pagoda
200 pulls, ZERO kills
strong forum
Yikes
strong forum
We were alliance back then
CE this expac on alliance = 2
CE on horde this expac = 0
Alliance is better
Clearly
still pagoda
i've already got bigger prog than what i had back in BoD on RU
gotta get that first CE
ever
upper violet
how do they distribute loot in russian guilds 
still pagoda
Mine was 80% Russian, its ffa
@strong forum
still not RU region
RU WoW community is meh
at best
strong forum
Na no ru Region, just a billion of slavs
modern brook
total side bar
but u ever read some peoples opinions and think "man how can someone that wrong be so confident in themselves?"
[i may or may not be on reddit again]
still pagoda
^ RU cluster in a nutshell
you're trying to find a raiding guild that is normal
get shitton of childish douchbags instead
sweet summit
Blyad
upper violet
cyka
sweet summit
u ready to game brother
still pagoda
what are you going to do?
sweet summit
idk keys maybe?
upper violet
im kind of a meme at this point
sweet summit
why?
upper violet
424 ilv
sweet summit
pog
still pagoda
still pagoda
welcome to the faction that is not dead
upper violet
i swear im at this pug server as tank
on eu ally i get like at most 1 ping a day
and its a 10
still pagoda
on horde?
upper violet
ally
sweet summit
hunter? 🤣
upper violet
yeah
still pagoda
sweet summit
ineffable 
trim bay
should u run IT under a 20
tame garden
trim bay
or is it a good to have all the time
tame garden
its good
sweet summit
IT owns everywhere
still pagoda
it's great
tame garden
yeah buy 2 of them
trim bay
😄
still pagoda
2xIT1 is literally the ultimate survivability boost
trim bay
sweet
still pagoda
it is also only for 3300
still pagoda
sure
i'm gonna drop one TD for 2xIT1 tomorrow
since i need this in big boy keys now
dark lark
ineffable1 is back!
trim bay
also its been bugging me. the rule is Ilvl over stat. i got 2 rings thate are 475 but have imo poor stats. all im loosing is some stamina for say a little bit of mastery. would it not be worth keeping the 465s? with haste vers?
trim bay
i hafve 475 Loop and overseers
sweet summit
rings are kinda outside of that "rule"
sweet summit
yeah they are very good
trim bay
sweet
and why does noone stack the haste corruption if its our go to stat? i have lived under a rock im sorry
upper violet
because ppl stack td or versa
sweet summit
because TD is better xd
upper violet
trim bay
sorrry. ill re read them
sweet summit
sweet summit
depends
near pewter
I just got Vial of animated blood as the ilvl470 from the chest. any good for tanking? 236 mastery with 3.6k strength use
sweet summit
its good if you use it properly
near pewter
and how would that be?
sweet summit
avatar>clap>demo>vial+clap
near pewter
that makes sense
stiff oracle
Vial on gcd?
sweet summit
its not
stiff oracle
Ok good
sick sentinel
those new bracers put me at td2. IFT2, and haste 18%. those are my highest ilvl bracers
grand drum
expedient from vendor, got td2 from chest, and td1 on dh alt
wooden drift
Hey guys quick question if I have r3 TD alrdy is it worth getting a couple IT now that they are up and cheap since TD 1 or 2 won’t be up for a bit
sick sentinel
What i think the plan is, is remove IFT2 for IFT1, maybe remove 6% haste and add td1 for td3
warm plinth
@wooden drift Yeah it's worth it
sick sentinel
I just want to make sure that i am doing this correct and don't corrupt the wrong shit
wooden drift
@warm plinth thanks!
bronze patrol
Dumb question, I see a lot of people taking the Azerite trait Overwhelming Power. But it says it removes stacks when hit... which seems bad?
sweet summit
it has an internal cooldown
undone sun
internal cooldown preventing stacks from falling off too quick
flat jackal
What’s more important? Vers 3 or IT1? I can get 7 vers 3 and 1 IT 1 or 6 vers 3 or 2 IT1
tame garden
ty
sick sentinel
@flat jackal you’ll want the two ITs most likely. Vers% is largely irrelevant unless you are running a high vers build. You probably won’t use 6-7 of them
flat jackal
I’m planning on running high vers. Yes I’ll be doing 25+
sick sentinel
Still probably won’t use 6-7 of them
sweet summit
id take the 2 ineffables
tame garden
TD4 exped2 ineff2 i am online
flat jackal
Will that be under 40?
sick sentinel
No
flat jackal
I don’t mind running thing from beyond
lofty widget
sick sentinel
If you want to stay under 40 then just go 5x vers r3
Yes there comes a point where SV will become valuable. I don’t have the math in hand though
ivory elbow
sick sentinel
Ah. Here it is
wary lantern
It should be in pins about SV
sick sentinel
The thing is not the problem, the slow can be annoying as fuck
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rTitGB3dIVZcQGIMXDt7MGuS5RUzsW2EkI7OQF_AmOw/edit this was posted a while back. Haven’t tested the accuracy
sharp rover
For a defensive build, is it ideal to go full vers or to mix vers with expedient?
ivory elbow
Yeah i saw it in Naowh stream Xd he Said the thing from beyond doesnt Do much It’s the untimly Slow When you have to dodge shit
sharp rover
So 6/0 is better than 5/1 vers/exp?
sick sentinel
Naowh said he will try 1 inef - vers r1 +surge... New meta inc boys
flat jackal
@ivory elbow so do you recommend sub 40 or sub 50?
sharp rover
Also, for your vers spreadsheet, do you include vers from essences and procs in your baseline vers?
ivory elbow
@flat jackal do you mean corruption?
flat jackal
Yeah
sharp rover
@sweet summit the general takeaway is that versatile is better than sv unless you have very low verse base
ivory elbow
Here is the thing
sweet summit
whats low baste vers
gleaming rock
I want to purchase 2x ineff R1 right>?
sharp rover
Put your verse ibtk the spreadsheet and see
ivory elbow
I am not doing 25s yet i am at 21-22s with pugs
sharp rover
👍
flat jackal
Ah
ivory elbow
But When It comes to corruption It’s about How comfy you are
If u Can handle 59 corruption and still surivie and dodge shit go for it
But if u like It’s unplayable just go under 40
Considering you have 2 charges u Can charge to one ally But i am not big fan of those Slows becuase i got 1 shot to many times Because i couldnt move out of the corruption Slow xD
sand turret
In general, is it worth it to drop 5 ilvls for secondaries? ex: 475 crit/mast raid bracers vs 470 haste/vers
sweet summit
bracers? yeah fuck it
ivory elbow
@flat jackal i hope u got What i meant xd
ivory elbow
Today i saw naowh and gingi dying to their corruption 2-3 times inting a 26 When They Can easly run through it like It’s a 15
Yeah thats the fun part playing with corruption xd prot warrior is fun When avatar and truth procs and u got a perma root on mobs
sweet summit
CnS major
still pagoda
buoyant walrus
if i have a 455 TD piece should i keep that over my 460 expedient or is ilvl still more important
cursive hedge
is Leech corruption any good for Prot?
limpid pawn
Yogi that is all over the place
For lower keys, it’s TD all the way. But if you need filler, two IT1 will be great
still pagoda
is Leech corruption any good for Prot?
@cursive hedge
for everyone and not just prot
sick sentinel
okay, so what should i be at then? 4 TD 1-2it1 and 1-2haste?
still pagoda
i would do 4TD 2xIT1
sweet summit
TD and IT
sick sentinel
delete haste?
sweet summit
have haste on gear and haste trinkets
cursive hedge
4 TD, 2 IT is better than 5 TD, right?
mortal phoenix
anyone else get the big poopie this week
obtuse yoke
with my current Azerite setup I can either run 2 BoM/3 DC/1 bad trait, or 2/BoM/ 2 DC / 1 Iron Fortress / 1 bad trait
is swapping a DC for an iron fortress worth?
warm plinth
This week was a good chest week
mortal phoenix
what? DC is like the best M+ trait for damage
sweet summit
what is 1 bad trait
sweet summit
its the best warrior specific trait to stack after BoM for aoe damage
obtuse yoke
on my other piece it's either DC or Callous reprisal 😦
sick sentinel
DC it is
warm plinth
Yeah, kinda forced there
sick sentinel
Not gonna kill you. But you’ll want the better azerite at some point
sweet summit
wasnt dagger like super good in uldir?
sick sentinel
Yea lmao it was nuts
obtuse yoke
@sick sentinel yeah i've got 2 bom/2dc/1 iron/1 callous rn so it's kinda doggy doodoo
but this toon is pretty fresh still, just bought 2 460 azerites to get my ilvl up
sweet summit
gotta make the best out of what you have 🤷♀️
obtuse yoke
i kinda wanna see my thunderclaps now xD
sick sentinel
i gota re-roll next week for BOM, and figure out what i want to do with the corrupt
sweet summit
noice man
sweet summit
sick sentinel
okay, so which corruptions do i delete?
still pagoda
so i may not have to gamble next week
sick sentinel
i already did the bracer
sweet summit
everything thats not TD or IT in the long run
sweet summit
idk tbh
still pagoda
2665
obtuse yoke
how bad is the on use mechagon bracers
still pagoda
just googled up
floral peak
so i am an arms war main with prot for off spec for running keys and stuff. nothing very high 16-17's as a tank. some higher as dps. till this point i just used my arms gear with haste on it and called it good but i noticed i am 90% haste in prot without combat buffs.... is that to high and should i lower haste to get TD for overall DPS or its not not a big deal?
untold sorrel
So the new corruptions are available for America's should i get one IT and 3 expedient?
sweet summit
get two IT1s and save
untold sorrel
Is expedient not worth it anymore for prot?
sweet summit
its a good filler
untold sorrel
Till vers?
sweet summit
vers is also a good filler if you have a lot of vers on your gear already
about vers stacking
sweet summit
thank you david, very cool
sweet summit
whenever
upper violet
@ionic fern
sweet summit
my monk is very scuffed and ready
urban briar
sea brawlers greathelm or helm of abyssal malevolence?
sweet summit
abyssal
sea brawler is like a budget abyssal
@arctic python if you dont have it yet sure
arctic python
@sweet summit Thank you very cool
sturdy dome
i dont have any other defensive trinkets tho tbh
analog zinc
god my azerite is fucking insane bruh
sweet summit
dont need defensive trinekts
analog zinc
sweet summit
vita+scale gang
arctic python
@sweet summit Thing is it only play prot in m+ and arms in raid, which is why i am really keen on the Expedient pieces
analog zinc
Wrathion + Butcher Block gang
sweet summit
almost the dream there city
analog zinc
can't get a mythic vita & prob never will
analog zinc
475 butcher is better
sweet summit
the difference between a hc vita and mythic vita is like 4
analog zinc
also my setup is the dream there's no chest with OWP over Blood siphon & the other stuff I need
modern brook
4 elephants?
sweet summit
vex chest for UF over the leech tbh
analog zinc
only way I can improve it is n'zoth azerite cuz higher ilvl
@sweet summit I'm running vex chest
sweet summit
why u take BS over UF
analog zinc
Leech
sweet summit
🤢
analog zinc
I was told to in here the other day
analog zinc
54
sweet summit
54% leech??
analog zinc
1.35% leech (:
sweet summit
nah use UF over bloodsiphon honestly
analog zinc
I can get 6.5% with just a couple gear swaps
sick sentinel
okay, i am now TD3 IT1x2 and haste 1
+37 cr
Where is your 4th TD brother
ain't got it
analog zinc
actually I like this setup
6.5% leech, TDr5 with no TFB & I dont need to use the CR essence
sweet summit
leech is irrelevant in most item/trait comparison situations
tardy moth
Overwhelming power over UF ya?
sweet summit
both are great
some prefer OP, some prefer UF
id just sim it
and pick whatever gave more damage
tardy moth
ye
sick sentinel
i enjoy the one that heals you every 3 seconds out of combat
tardy moth
how's my luck haha, I got a 465 fang with leech yesterday, 475 fang from chest..
analog zinc
fang is risky since you can't block during it tho
modern brook
Self reliane
sweet summit
self reliance?
modern brook
and its ass
sick sentinel
pokemon ball
sweet summit
yeah
sick sentinel
yeah prolly
sweet summit
IV>=RP>something>self reliance xd
analog zinc
100% useless in group content thou
modern brook
100% useless period
sweet summit
you are never standing alone as a tank
analog zinc
its literally just for open world solo stuff to get a tiny bit more out of combat healing
sweet summit
and should not be out of combat for a long time in m+
sweet summit
it used to be pog on explosive weeks
tardy moth
I wish this was overclocking :/
sick sentinel
prot warrior healer
undone sun
still pagoda
And we love our mud huts
tardy moth
you guys use 460 vita or 475 rezans?
analog zinc
man I thought I was storing leech corruptions but I literally just have 11%
sick sentinel
Vita
analog zinc
oh well time to test out the 17% leech build
sweet summit
both @tardy moth 
tardy moth
not rezans.... Humming
sick sentinel
👁️
tardy moth
its late I'm tired
sweet summit
🐉
sick sentinel
Go pug mythic wrathion all you have to do is have fingers to kill that boss
you see
tardy moth
yeah wrath is super straight forward
sick sentinel
mythic raiding in a nutshell
sweet summit
taunt on two 🤡
sick sentinel
analog zinc
eek
sweet summit
you're a tank
sick sentinel
i feel like this might be a limiting factor
tardy moth
looking at like 50 pieces of gear in my bags trying to build a usable arms set whilst not over doing corruption on my prot pieces...
sweet summit
you get in anywhere
sweet summit
vers gem
analog zinc
then do it
sick sentinel
Gemming vers... but corrupting expedient 
upper violet
haste is biser
left hatch
he meant for damage
analog zinc
fuck you mean
sweet summit
for general defesive and offensive play, haste is "bis"
analog zinc
tanks are just bulky dps
still pagoda
Haste gives you much more
tardy moth
I was referring to balancing pieces across a prot/arms set
left hatch
usually when ppl talk about bis stats, they're referring to the defensive statline
still pagoda
Technically, the more stats - the better
tardy moth
and not going over budget because I put expedient on 'bis' pieces for both specs
left hatch
esp since sims are hyper specific
so literally any stat can be your personal 'bis'
for damage purposes
stiff oracle
Let the man gem vers if he wants to lol
sick sentinel
Fact: gemming vers makes your forehead thicker
stiff oracle
bronze blade
I have a question, for m+ is KR 465 trinket or 440 nzoth better?
last mason
That’s a thicc ass boi
left hatch
KR trinket is never good
sweet summit
yar
sick sentinel
You don’t wrap yourself in the bandages?
obtuse yoke
what spell would be most efficient to deal with explosives this week? don't want to waste GCDs
last mason
Glacial spike
analog zinc
last mason
To make sure it’s really dead
tardy moth
leech is pretty nice
warm plinth
Not a waste of a GCD to kill something that'll kill you otherwise.
still pagoda
Did u get to push some this week @still pagoda
@stiff oracle
+21FH
5 minutes over time, but mistakes were made by everyone in the group
Next week is not really hard
Since explosive is a non-issue in higher keys with people who at least have brains
terse zinc
Is it worth upgrading an azerite piece from 465 to 480 if I lose a BoM (will still have 2)?
warm plinth
Yes
amber siren
yep, only your first DC is worth losing a max of 15 ilvl for
wooden flame
baboons
sweet summit
l m f a o
modern brook
i think i know more about ur class than you do
still pagoda
boosted monkeys incoming
sweet summit
🐵
vital stratus
should i stop favoring haste as my primary stat at some point?
modern brook
Yes but that point is independant of gear
analog zinc
nah
modern brook
its content based
vital stratus
have heroic on fullc lear, starting mythic in 2 weeks
for the most part top ilvl is all haste primary anyway, but could prioritize a diff secondary if i give up ilvl
modern brook
ilvl>haste for basically the entirety of m raiding tbh
vital stratus
ok so if haste == top ilvl, take it?
modern brook
if you have 2 pieces of 475 gear on the same slot, and one has haste and the other doesnt
you take the one w/ haste
sick sentinel
High ilvl is always top prio
vital stratus
how about a 460 ring with 452 haste (and secondary is mastery) or a 465 ring with 223 haste (351 vers)?
modern brook
which ever brings you more happiness, tbh
vital stratus
the 460 also has a socket, and a dmg proc...
modern brook
I'd take the haste/verse personally
do you have the other part of the dmg proc?
I hate gearing questions btw
vital stratus
it is one of the bit bands
modern brook
I dont want to play 21 questions with your gear 😠
vital stratus
haah sorry bull
modern brook
no its ok
But like
ilvl > haste and then for small shit like that it really depends on your gear, whatyyou're doing etc
Ultimately, the difference between ~6 stats isnt going to decide if you down a boss or not
modern brook
im p sure 6 verse isnt actually calculated
Im fairly certain thats below blizzard's sig figs
modern brook
I was wrong sorry
6 verse is ~.07% increased damage == .035% dr
so its 2 magnitudes off from not being counted
sick sentinel
modern brook
so for every 10kDPS you deal, 6 verse provides an extra 7 dps
sick sentinel
meanwhile my TD crits for 500k per target :>
modern brook
350 damage bby
interestingly, over the course of a 5 minute fight thats an extra 2k damage
i mean thats treated as a 7dps dot w/a 5m duration but
still p cool
also i was wrong twice. Its just barely within sig figs; assuming shits still the same from like cata.
they only go to 5 decimal places; and .07% == x1.00007
so just barely hits it
frosty spindle
Anyone mind me shooting them a DM for a couple quick Questions regarding Prot, instead of me asking a whats more than likely been asked many times in here. Lol
modern brook
if the questions are general "how do i X" questions the guides are very good resources
if they're more specific to specific situations; feel free to ask the hive mind
frosty spindle
Which would be the best guide? Icy?
modern brook
I usually point people to icy
frosty spindle
Well I played Prot like 6 months ago. Then Classic/TBC took over me. So I'm just getting back. Had much changed with us?
modern brook
not a whole lot tbh
frosty spindle
Or more/less the same shit
frosty spindle
EP had just came out. I haven't done EP @sweet summit
modern brook
Corruption is stupid bulllshit that matters more than your actual play [ for meters]
frosty spindle
Yeha the corruption thing I know nothing about and don't like.
What was the nerf?
modern brook
Yeah only 1 part of that sentence will change
Its uhhh 30%? instead of 50% damage now
idk you still take it
next stone
So I am wearing with 36 corruption. I got an upgrade from my box with Surging vitality 3. Do you think I should cleanse it for more verastile in the future.
wooden flame
cant even process whats happening in that picture
modern brook
oof that smoke powder casting during salt blasts T-T
also start marking urself with star
Ur a star and dont let anyone tell u otherwise
ur getting tal dagor'd cause of this negative red-x energy ur showing yourself
sand kettle
hey quick question which damage pots do we use in m+? unbridled fury for ST ofc but does empowered proximity beat it out in aoe? and how many targets?
stiff oracle
@still pagoda not intime 
sick sentinel
TD can go through the cages directly onto jess and he runs through the bars
sand turret
hod or iron fortress?
sharp night
unbridled at 1-2, superior str at 3, prox at 4+ but i just skip the str because of hotkeys and inventory space
stiff oracle
@sand turret i like hod
modern brook
assuming ur shield is 465+ id say hod
only reason to consider if over hod would be if u need to make up block value for some reason
orchid frigate
just did a wcm and ngl but a small pack with one enthralled guard, bewitched captain and heartsbane runeweaver and i have a hard time staying alive
even with guard interrupted
amber siren
the witches hit p hard
orchid frigate
i used up everything i had i think
sick sentinel
Captains hit hard too
orchid frigate
dont see how i could live on such a pull in a > +20
without healer constantly pumping me up
sick sentinel
Are you EU what week is it for you
orchid frigate
still fort, bolstering, grevious
rose furnace
How worth it is a piece that's not haste/versa but has at least one of those stats with leech
sick sentinel
First of all grievous is going to make any relatively hard pick feel harder
rose furnace
I'm looking to start pushing 20+ keys once I get the versa corruption set up
sick sentinel
Can push 20+ without it. But don’t sacrifice ilvl for leech
rose furnace
It's 475/470 pieces
sick sentinel
Leech is largely irrelevant. Nice to have, but don’t trade stats or ilvl for it
rose furnace
Looking at Floorpov's setup he has 460/465 pieces that have leech
I was just wondering how much it matters
rigid sinew
vers isnt something u should stack until 24s, leech isnt worth the ilvl sac
ionic fern
@upper violet ?
sick sentinel
Leech matters very little
ionic fern
It's the VERS that the items have.
They are stacking vers amps.
Meaning that any vers items gain value.
If those lower ilvl vers items happen to have leech on them it's just something extra.
sick sentinel
^ yeah in a true vers build people will sac ilvl for more vers
And when you play as much as people do at those levels you tend to have a lot of gear with tertiary stats
warm plinth
Wasn't the cloak upgrade thing already a thing? Pretty sure it's been 1 run per level since the last change
So they're basically just saying they haven't changed anything else.
ionic fern
It was yes.
upper violet
resist changes when
only thing stopping me from going crazy on alts
maybe its good so that i dont get sucked into alts
warm plinth
The least they could do is make it so you can get both cores from one source each week
amber siren
why even bother announcing this after the full rotation came out, so fucking dumb
amber siren
already knew that on the reset, it's back to 4 weeks ago
rose furnace
If it's for the versa then why are the top warriors choosing blood siphon over Lifespeed or other stat procs?
still pagoda
what makes me sad is the same shit with gating of cloak updates to 2 per week
amber siren
the post is literally outdated before it was even posted
warm plinth
The prior speculation was that it would change slightly
each time
Which means it wasn't necessarily confirmed to be the same rotation yet
main vault
The first permutation being the same didn’t prove anything
still pagoda
it is just even faster now
warm plinth
Well, the one I'm actually watching right now says WF and it's Andybrew
I didn't know a bear did it; I'll have to see if there's video
main vault
PSure that was Tomo
orchid frigate
why does blizzard give out the rotation schedule now?
wouldnt it have been better to do that at start?
tame garden
andy did 28 jy first
sweet summit
true
tame garden
and they didnt announce the schedule cuz they didnt know what they were gonna do yet
orchid frigate
hmm fortified KR, guess i have to kite zul
orchid frigate
anything special to think about when kiting zul or i just leg it and pray i dont die?
tame garden
make sure healer positions so that your kiting doesnt outrange him
cuz youll still have the dot on you
ancient ore
yo should i get a strikethrough or keep my racing pulse
analog swift
yeah
find a good healer
homie pumped out 160K HPS st on zul <#
also ineffable truth gang
undone sun
sick sentinel
has anyone any insight into why sometimes spores at unbound abomination spawn/snap onto your position and one shot you?
or maybe a twitch/youtube clip?
pallid berry
we want one ineff rank 1 yea?
sweet summit
one, even two
warm plinth
@sick sentinel If you stand on the edge of that kind of band that goes around the middle, it can cause the spores to snap.
sick sentinel
alright, tank more in the middle?
pallid berry
increase rate of cd?
warm plinth
Well you shouldn't have to really change your position much; just make sure you or your group aren't standing on that edge
We usually stand just inside of it
undone sun
proc rate doesn't change
sick sentinel
yea i just notice it happen much more often when doing unbound with the fear guy, makes sense
pallid berry
so the amount of cd when it procs changes?
warm plinth
Yes
e.g. 2 IT1s would give you 60% CDR for 10 seconds
Er well, 60% cooldown recovery rate, whatever
analog swift
2 guaruntees 1 sec tclaps
plus it's basically memory of lucid dreams
had some lucky procs in a vision....three avatars back to back
I'll have to play around w/ it in keys maybe 2 is overkill
warm plinth
@outer dew is who I dream of ❤️
analog swift
but i feel like getting them back to back is the giga
outer dew
upper violet
warm plinth
😉
lime mantle
🤔
ping me, you coward
thunderclap good because thunderclap big damage.
Can we get reaping back pretty please?
grand drum
And unnerfed UF
humble agate
kk ty
novel ruin
Can you TC every GCDwith a rank 2 IT or do you need the 60% versus 50% ?
sharp night
rank 2 is bad because it gives you less CDR for more corruption
although it takes 1 less slot but that isn't really an issue unless you're stacking stat% and not hitting corruption cap
novel ruin
Yes, thinking more late game
At max resist
Is what Nerf was thinking for end game keys
sharp night
you can't even TC every GCD with 60% IT unless you have over 100% haste i think
sick sentinel
ye you can't
sharp night
you need 100% IT right?
sick sentinel
Most people just "feel" like they can
sharp night
because it's base 6 sec cd which is 4 gcds, unstoppable force cuts it to 2 gcds
so you need 100% cdr
sick sentinel
ye
upper violet
What if i go for more than 2 it1
solar yarrow
can brace for impact and iron fortress stack?
solar yarrow
is second brace or second fortress better?
sick sentinel
probably brace
solar yarrow
thanks
red dock
460 Vita vs 475 Jes Howler for M+?
ivory elbow
POGGERS I JUST GOT A 3K HEAD IDEA
went to restore items and found like 3-4 items with leech with versa in them
pallid berry
Put on 2 ineff, next vision got 3 god damn things from beyond with a void buffet and got trucked
I hate being over 40 corruption
vale bobcat
Thx appreciate the response
steady slate
I got this from my weekly chest. I have no idea what to think of it.
sharp night
is that an image for ants
i click the image to enlarge and i'm pretty sure it actually just shrinks instead
grand drum
If i had a penny for each pixel in that picture i would have 3 cents
warm plinth
😂
To answer your question, @steady slate, it is the actual worst trinket in the game. It has zero use whatsoever.
steady slate
bummer. waste of a week then
peak wren
Hey, I'm 469 Protection Warrior, I follow icy viens / method guide by my DPS is sucks as hell.
anyone can check my warrior, help with stats? EU alliance
steady slate
is IT additive?
peak wren
I'm new warrior, got 22% haste & 13% versa (with no buff)
sick sentinel
Anyone can help me out? Tried to do a 14 today, and i'm ilvl 465, so thought i would be fine, but everything hit me like a truck, kept ignore pain and shield block up. This is my character https://raider.io/characters/eu/twisting-nether/Filla
strong forum
@red dock vita by miles
red dock
ty
lost egret
Youre not supposed to be popping I guess filla
red dock
Also have a 475 wrathion trinket but I assumed the haste would be more valuable
lost egret
what 14 did you do
strong forum
if youre doing a 14, and youre getting trucked, youre DEFO doing smth wrong
if youre playing properly youre guaranteed to take almost negative dmg
sick sentinel
the 14 was underrot
lost egret
If youre a newbie tank try to tank freeholds motherlodes workshops
Underrot shouldnt be hard
sick sentinel
i'm newbie tank for 10+
lost egret
You must be doing something wrong
red dock
Were there specific areas you were getting hit hard? Or the whole dungeon
sharp night
@peak wren you can throw your logs into wowanalyzer but from what i can see you are massively overusing devastate and not clapping/shield slamming enough
lost egret
Shieldblock should be chained meaning at the last second keep it up again its your main mitigation+ ignorepain should be weaved in
sharp night
and not using your other abilities on cd
lost egret
Avatar+Demo shout on cooldown
sick sentinel
Avatar+Demo shout on cooldown
@lost egret i am! And if shield block is down with no charges left, and a lot of mobs, i pop last stand
strong forum
keep on practicing the rotation, learn the dungeons
candid inlet
I'm at like 10k echoes should I save for td3 or is IT worth buying
strong forum
pactice makes perfect
lost egret
Yep
If you are doing everything fine, then it must be a magic group LOL
Interrupts must have not been going out properly if thats the case
sick sentinel
i thought about removing some of my addons, (like elvui) to focus more, idk if it would help tho
peak wren
@sharp night thank you. I"ll throw that to the anylazer, and I"ll try to use more cd's and less devastate.
lost egret
Considering its raging, ads mightve been 30% and bursting you
peak wren
what about my haste / versa?
red dock
Could also be mobs like skeleton packs not getting dispelled or something
sick sentinel
Interrupts must have not been going out properly if thats the case
@lost egret eh, it was a hit and miss, also the healer got hit by a lot of shockwaves tbh
sharp night
doesn't matter too much, focus on your rotation first and then your stats afterwards
red dock
tank debuff*
lost egret
Oh yeah yup tank debuffs exist too
Try playing the easier,less magic focused dungeons and see how you fare
++ its explosive week you cant mitigate much from explosives
So dont pull too big :))
sick sentinel
oh no no, im in eu :b we haven't had reset yet 😛
sick sentinel
yeah but this was bolstering, grievous
strong forum
🙂
explosives shouldnt have HP or not scale with key level, they should only have a hit requirement of 1 or 2
peak wren
What curraption is the best for warrior prot?
strong forum
fiery bolt
Guys, help... For m+ what is more valuable: 15ilvl or the 3rd bastion of might???
strong forum
15 ilvl unless the piece has BS + CR
fiery bolt
ok, ty
sullen valve
@ionic fern how has questions per day changed since wowA
last mason
how do you decide between using lucid and shield wall, or I guess, how should I be thinking of lucid as a cd
strong forum
well lucid is a massive defensive CD for big pulls or magic dmg bosses
sharp night
use lucid on cd always unless you know you need it for a big pull coming up within a few seconds pretty much
sharp night
otherwise there's no point running it
strong forum
SW is used for high incoming short window dmg / filling midigation gaps
still pagoda
Blood Elf gang appreciates this video
Since it's time of purge abuse again
though there is nothing to purge in FH
pastel sleet
445 vita vs 465 butchers block
sharp night
what's your other trinket
pastel sleet
rezans
sharp night
vita is like a better rezan
main shoal
sharp night
td
strong forum
TD
pastel sleet
TD
sharp night
that's it
there is no reason to go anything but td until you're hitting at least 20+ or just filling corruption budget
pastel sleet
ineffible to fill i think
grand drum
i only ever get TD from my weekly chest. I think if i added it all up its TD15 now.
sharp inlet
whats the stat priority for prot
strong forum
ilvl > haste > crit=vers
sharp inlet
mastery is bleh to it then
strong forum
mastery isnt bad, its just less desirable because we get so much from Bastion of Might
solar yarrow
Worth the echoes to pick up IT1 to fill corruption budget? Pure TD currently
solar yarrow
Ty
still pagoda
SW is kinda eh since i wasn't taking much damage
SR is my usual problem since i slack on it a lot in raids
strong forum
/s
warm plinth
No intercept smh
warm plinth
Yeah, don't be a pussy
strong forum
thats what you have SW for :kappa:
warm plinth
😂
warm plinth
I don't know what dread inferno even is because I've never done ra-den on mythic lol
still pagoda
it's basically a small puddle AoE that chases random DPS players during nightmare orb phase
warm plinth
Good shit
still pagoda
and it drops on melee every so often
and it turns it into a circus
with death all around
junior kernel
is ineffable truth worthwhile for tanking
junior kernel
i just got one, should i have more than one?