protection

[sick sentinel]

i saw TD hit for 218k in tol dagor

[strong forum]

My biggest TD crit was like 900k on vdh

It all depends on how much TD you're running

[sick sentinel]

td2

[sweet summit]

or what boss youre hitting

[strong forum]

Well I excluded psychus

[sick sentinel]

During nzoth prog a melee dps stood in front of me when he went insane and got absolutely smoked by TD the second he was MCd

td2 expediant2/3 ift30corrupt

[strong forum]

And excluded the 30 tank Nya run

[upper violet]

is that a real thing

[pastel sleet]

4 td prot warrior during last stand i crit for 700k each. it is bananas

[upper violet]

like does it actually work

[strong forum]

Yes David

It's the easiest way to do Nya heroic

[sweet summit]

did they do 7/12M?

[strong forum]

Just get a 30 tank run going

[upper violet]

srsly

[strong forum]

And brain afk, easiest curve of your life

I think they did 7 or 8/12 ye ros

[upper violet]

damn wtf i was in a grp like that and left cuz i didnt believe

[strong forum]

Lmao

[sweet summit]

[strong forum]

All you need is 30 tanks with sotw, and td5+

[upper violet]

only have td3 but i think they still let u i n

[strong forum]

And the raid kills itself

Literally just roll around on the floor and get loot

Whilst doing 100k dps

Literally doesn't get easier than that, besides 29 mages, but for that you actually need geared people

[sick sentinel]

Did you see the disgusting drest kill with all those mages

I about threw up

[strong forum]

All kills were disgusting

[sweet summit]

ahaah yeah

[strong forum]

Every boss died within 40seconds

[sick sentinel]

Boss can’t kill you if you kill it before a single mechanic

🧠

[strong forum]

And then there's people actually progressing heroic with serious strategies unable to get curve...

[sick sentinel]

Hey you leave them alone they are trying their best

[strong forum]

I'm moreso mocking blizzard

That this kind of thing, is a thing

[sick sentinel]

oh i learned the hard way last night

Coward mages needed a tank tho

[still pagoda]

i've seen 600k TD crits on my prot warr

[sick sentinel]

don't leap to box before dog starts his venting, he sits in the box and evades, and you wipe

[still pagoda]

Every boss died within 40seconds
@strong forum

That's literally HFC all over again

[sick sentinel]

I just drag him to the box for maximum pump uptime

and the fire sticks on botanist really sucks too

[still pagoda]

2 weeks of decent upgrades in a row

[warm plinth]

Have you tried our lord and savior snipping tool?

[chilly brook]

Must be nice

I got 475 boots with siphoner 1 on my DH

But at least there was a socket

[sweet summit]

🤤

[still pagoda]

still lacking 1k residium for second gamble

gonna just stockpile for Mecha chest insted

[sick sentinel]

Making me CLICK an image so I can actually see the text

Shame

[strong forum]

tfw got 2 rings without haste and with useless corruptions

👏

2 expulsoms, i like it

[still pagoda]

now to the monk

[sick sentinel]

Have you considered buying more wow tokens you will get better gear

[strong forum]

so far 2/howevermanyweeksitsbeen good loot

[sick sentinel]

Hemlooooo

Am new here

[strong forum]

👋

[sweet summit]

hallo

welcome

[still pagoda]

welcome!

[sick sentinel]

This guy is an alpha I can already tell

Was wondering if anyone had any tips on what dungeons I should farm to get good prot gear

Mostly a shield for now

Atal

[sweet summit]

atal

heck

[sick sentinel]

Ah okay

[sweet summit]

slow again

[still pagoda]

WTF

[sick sentinel]

Smoked rosjen

[still pagoda]

WTFFFFFFF

[sweet summit]

epic

[still pagoda]

465

[sick sentinel]

Hnnnnnnnng you love to see all that leech

[still pagoda]

time to learn monk

[sick sentinel]

Learn monk?

Press ISB

[sweet summit]

pawn is saying leech is a 33% upgrade

[still pagoda]

i love to see 30+ilvl weapon upgrades

[sick sentinel]

Press keg smash

[still pagoda]

2 decent upgrades in one week

yay

[primal dune]

Rolled a haste mastery leech ring from 15 today

Is leech actually useful?

[strong forum]

If its on your highest ilvl, sure

[sweet summit]

no we are just memeing

[primal dune]

How good does it scale

[strong forum]

Outside of that, not really

It scales linear to your dmg output

[sweet summit]

haste good, mastery OK
leech irrelevant in most cases

[strong forum]

^

[chilly brook]

@still pagoda the game gave you siphoner 3 as punishment for not cropping the image

[sweet summit]

TRUUUUE

[still pagoda]

@chilly brook cleansed it

[sick sentinel]

Download screen capture software OR ELSE leech forever

[strong forum]

Petition to reduce leech to 1% = 1 corruption. And I'll use it

Best filler in the game, don't @me

[sweet summit]

i will not

[chilly brook]

I wish they'd just remove pawn from the addons section in twitch

[still pagoda]

i needed a better weapon on my monk anyway

I wish they'd just remove pawn from the addons section in twitch
@chilly brook THIS

[chilly brook]

Also @strong forum that's about the only way its worthwhile corruption budget wise

Some of the corruptions I scratch my head at in regards to their cost

[strong forum]

Yup

[chilly brook]

Like avoidant

[strong forum]

That's what I'm saying

[sick sentinel]

Griff guess who got a weapon on his dh 😎

[sweet summit]

not you

[sick sentinel]

Now I only have to run one strength weapon

[chilly brook]

I got a weapon on my DH last night

[sick sentinel]

Am trying to make the move between dps to tank

[sweet summit]

nice

[sick sentinel]

Lucky you @sick sentinel we are both

[primal dune]

My guildie rolled a TD ring on normal nzoth and didn’t even ask if I want it and gave it to pug

[sick sentinel]

I got a weapon for tanking in my chest last week

[primal dune]

Can I have an F in the chat

[sweet summit]

D

[sick sentinel]

F

[sweet summit]

a i missed

[sick sentinel]

but I'm just needing better stuff

[still pagoda]

F

[chilly brook]

Now you'll only be 2/3 handicapped instead of 3/4ths Hawgz

[sick sentinel]

like upgrade on my chest and helmet and a shield >:(I

Yes yes

Our weekly no leaver may not include my dh tho

He is less scuffed now

[chilly brook]

My shaman is hella scuffed

[sweet summit]

that is the content we want tho, the road from very scuffed to slightly less scuffed

[tame garden]

ideally we dont deplete this time

[sweet summit]

evolving

[chilly brook]

Ha

You've never seen me dps

You thought my holy pally healing was bad

[warm plinth]

Are we talking about our next giga-scuffed Skyhold alt key 🙂

[chilly brook]

[sick sentinel]

Yes

[sweet summit]

@warm plinth can you disable the sound effect when you stand in an eye of corruption 🙏

[sick sentinel]

It will either be a not totally scuffed vdh or a very scuffed bear this week

Pick your poison

[chilly brook]

Bear

[sweet summit]

baer

[sick sentinel]

Excellent

[warm plinth]

Uh

I don't know if I can

[sweet summit]

aw :(

[strong forum]

Ya'all NA right

[chilly brook]

Yee

[warm plinth]

I think it's GTFO doing that, which is not particularly customizable

[strong forum]

😪

Ye thats gtfo if you have the bing if you get hit by eye

[still pagoda]

^

honestly

i don't use GTFO

like at all

[strong forum]

(didn't know that was a thing until a couple weeks ago)

[warm plinth]

I use GTFO for literally one reason at this point

[strong forum]

I just used... Eyes

[chilly brook]

I think gtfo is like overkill

[warm plinth]

For slime lieutenant pools in some places

[chilly brook]

I just turn my monitor on tbh

[strong forum]

Na i can see it being beneficial

[warm plinth]

I'm colorblind so I can't see the pools in a lot of places

[sweet summit]

you can use a WA for that pinky

[sick sentinel]

I prefer to not know when I’m standing in something

[strong forum]

Huh..

[sick sentinel]

That way when I drop dead it’s a surprise to everyone including me

[chilly brook]

The only downside about turning my monitor on is that I get a monitor tan

Cuz I'm a nerd

[tame garden]

hawgzbear this week

im so excited

[quaint yoke]

Does haste still present defensive value if I'm already able to get ~100% shield block uptime while tanking and keep ignore pain up?

[sick sentinel]

Hell yeah brother

I’m thrashing my way to success

[tame garden]

[still pagoda]

hawgzbear this week [2]

[sweet summit]

@quaint yoke for raids?

[quaint yoke]

for m+

[sweet summit]

how do you have 166% haste

[quaint yoke]

well i don't

but i fill in the gaps with last stand

and it works out

[warm plinth]

Actually

I wonder if I can just delete this 🤔

[sick sentinel]

Send it

[sweet summit]

y e s

[still pagoda]

[primal dune]

How would you know you’re standing in the eye if you don’t have it?

[warm plinth]

Testing it

[still pagoda]

well. Gonna get my BrM into a better shape while i'm still in a search for raid spot a a tank

[warm plinth]

To the target dummies!

[primal dune]

Statistically, the eye doesn’t proc if you need it to

[warm plinth]

This is proving to be true so far

[primal dune]

You can actually use this hidden mechanics to cheese prog raids

[warm plinth]

I fixed it @sweet summit!

This actually gives me a great idea

Because now I can get rid of the sound when I'm standing in that stupid slime in Underrot

Since it does like 5 damage

[primal dune]

But it’s still avoidable damage

[warm plinth]

Yeah but it's not something you need to move out of

Like I'm not gonna move out of it if it fucks up my positioning when it does insignificant amounts of damage

But I do right now because not only does GTFO make a sound, it makes a sound like it's a really bad thing to stand in

[sweet summit]

[sick sentinel]

Taking avoidable damage to the dome is alpha

Flex your tankiness

[strong forum]

#vdh

[chilly brook]

The only crappy thing about playing vengeance is you always take raden decaying strike at full hp in a meta proc

[strong forum]

Cancel aura turn your back to him

😏

[sweet summit]

SP is actually insane in dungeons

VE is sick

[chilly brook]

Wadu wat

[burnt iron]

Currently playing prot warrior as my new alt and i've got 6k echos atm, is it worth me buying a couple of exped 1s just to have alongside my TD2 until my corruption res goes up or just worth completely waiting until exped3 comes out? i'm only level 12 cape atm so got a long way to catch up in corruption resist

[grand drum]

I would save for TD1 or TD3 when they become available. You should get exped 3 if you want to play arms as well though

[burnt iron]

i have td2 + td3 but the TD3 is on 445 boots so i'm not using it atm

i bought a 460 boe with td2 on it so just been using that instead for now

[sweet summit]

TD3 on 445 boots>some other boots without TD

[burnt iron]

well i have an exped 1 on a 475 ring that i got from cache last week so if i use td3 on top of it atm with 12 cape i go over 40

so once i've upgraded my cape past 12 i'll use the td3 but not much point me cleansing a free expedient right now surely?

[sweet summit]

i agree

idk if id buy anything thats on the vendor now, for prot

[burnt iron]

makes sense, i'll just save then, once i've done my dailys my cape will be 15 anyway and the alt is already 472 so i should easily be able to just solo 5/4/3 masks on him as prot

just lack of vessels being able to upgrade my cloak and i didnt want to spend all of my echos because TD3 is super expensive

[sweet summit]

could buy vessels with echoes if you're far behind 🤷‍♀️

[burnt iron]

yeah but since this is my 3rd alt i really don't get too much time to just spam dungeons on it for echos so i think its best i just upgrade cloak with the daily vessel stuff than to spend echos on them

since td3 is going to be in the next 1.5 weeks i guess

[upper violet]

yo bois

what essence u run for manor

dynamo good right

for minors i mean

[sick sentinel]

CnS, Lucid, sphere, null barrier in some dungeons, sotw if you need corruption resistance

If running VoP major

[limpid pawn]

Mythic plus is : lucid major, vop, warden, conflict and strife minor

[sick sentinel]

If lucid major swap Lucid minor with VoP

I fricken got it

its a +0 mythic

but I got the shield from Atal

Good work lad

based pally tank in my group gave it to me

since they had the 470 shield from PVP

[chilly brook]

Definitely better than having nothing or a low ilvl shield

[unreal parrot]

no shield is the new meta for prot warr

just use 2 one handers

[sweet summit]

double shield when

[chilly brook]

Oh we in classic now?

[unreal parrot]

Wonder if you can use Last Stand with no shield on

[chilly brook]

No

[unreal parrot]

Sad

[chilly brook]

I mean you can

[sweet summit]

you get the HP?

[chilly brook]

You won't block

[sweet summit]

but no blocking

[chilly brook]

Yep

[unreal parrot]

damn

[chilly brook]

And even if you could

You wouldn't block for shit

Because you have no block stat

[sick sentinel]

Now i should

farm for a new helmet

[limpid pawn]

Yeah I ranked a +21 last night as fury with 2 one handers

Better threat generation for sure

[silk frigate]

Should I delay using my orc racial to line up with avatar cd?

[sick sentinel]

Yes

[stiff oracle]

Orc

[earnest mist]

hey, is mythic torment better for dps than heroic vita?

seems to sim higher

[stiff oracle]

Sim it

Seems to?

[earnest mist]

just did 3 target 90 seconds

no bl

[stiff oracle]

Also

[earnest mist]

doing 1 target 3 min with bl now

[stiff oracle]

Haste has a lot of value outside of just dps as well

Id 100% use vita

Gives your party haste as well

[earnest mist]

it sims about 400 dps higher

but ye

other stuff outweighs it

[stiff oracle]

400dps and no haste for party, no reduction to shield block etc

[sterile edge]

Hi!, Do yo recommend any page as Raidbots to manage mi character?

[stiff oracle]

Yes

Raidbots

Wowanalyzer can be nice in raids

[sterile edge]

But Raidbots only sims Dps, not survival

[stiff oracle]

Correct

[warm plinth]

There's no such thing as a tool that can sim survival. But wowanalyzer will help explain what you're doing wrong from a gameplay perspective, which can help with survival issues.

[sterile edge]

ok, thanks 😉

[stiff oracle]

😉

[cedar brook]

Hey folks,

Looking to start getting into Warrior tanking - haven't done any tanking since WotLK - any tips (other than reading up on Icy Veins etc)? Should I just take the plunge into low mythics - what would you recommend?

[sick sentinel]

Hawgz top 3 tanking tips:

1. Get a good shield as quickly as possible
2. Keep SB up as much as possible while tanking, fill gaps with last stand, dump rage into ignore pain
3. Don’t die

[warm plinth]

That third point I failed

[sick sentinel]

Yeah I had to take over bullet number 3 for you but that’s ok

oh, yeah, the guy talking earlier is partially right

i'm not all that hot at the game, only just reached 1500 io

Wut

not terribly important

[tame garden]

thats pretty hot

[stiff oracle]

Hnnng

[upper violet]

tfw 445 shield and 470 wep

did a few m+ today no shield

unluck

[modern brook]

405 weapon get fucked

[warm plinth]

That's me too David lol

Like actually the exact same. 470 wep, 445 shield

[modern brook]

Ilvl 468, 405 weapob

[lilac hawk]

would going full expedient be better that td?

[warm plinth]

Not even close

[upper violet]

nah

[still pagoda]

just had a +17ML run

timed

but i've seen healer dying to puddle on 3rd boss

and BM hunter

[steep bone]

heart of darkness or brace for impact?

[still pagoda]

HoD if you have 25+ corruption

[steep bone]

i do

[still pagoda]

but technically you will have it anyway

[steep bone]

so hod it is, ty

and life speed or unstable flames?

[still pagoda]

both are great

i would prefer UF personally

[steep bone]

lemme go uf

[strong forum]

UF is more dmg

[steep bone]

dmg is cool

ill take it

[still pagoda]

dmg is what you need to look at all the time

you need to do 2 DPS meters 6.2 Asmon style

[steep bone]

we once had hunter applying to our guild, he had damage meter next to his character

[still pagoda]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0SjQZCB5iU

[steep bone]

was fun tho

[still pagoda]

i'm talking of this

[steep bone]

oh i don't watch that dude xD

[still pagoda]

it's a meme from 4 year ago

:D

[strong forum]

more like 5

[steep bone]

wod ehh

[still pagoda]

more like 5
@strong forum

Ah, yea

19 days till B-day of this meme

[upper violet]

I liked the video of how to big dick dps on mythic odyn

[silver vortex]

looking at both wowhead and icyveins, is searing flame worth the corruption or don't bother with it?

[sweet summit]

there are better corruptions

so it depends on what you have

[still pagoda]

just seen fury warr dying from Peal aoe on first boss in ToS

https://raider.io/characters/eu/kazzak/Memphetide

also

restored my pre-transfer rio

[sweet summit]

peal aoe?

[still pagoda]

that one circular strike from Adderis

that you can avoid

[sweet summit]

cyclone strike?

[still pagoda]

this

[sweet summit]

oh lol

[stiff oracle]

No junkyard

[still pagoda]

seriously

i don't understand how bad a person needs to be to not avoid this

[stiff oracle]

Eh

Everyone makes mistakes

[still pagoda]

eh

somewhat

[sick sentinel]

Dps getting hit by shit doesn’t bother me cause if I had a dollar for every time I took avoidable damage in a dungeon I’d be a wealthy man. Just cause it doesn’t kill us doesnt mean we don’t do it too

Now if you miss interrupts I get toxic fast that’s a different story

[warm plinth]

I will miss every interrupt in our next key

You know, because I’ll be on a resto druid

[still pagoda]

[warm plinth]

Also I’d like to go on record that I didn’t realize I was volunteering to heal on bursting week

[upper violet]

[sick sentinel]

What key are we running

Does anyone have a 15 lmao

[upper violet]

How bad is kr this week btw

[sick sentinel]

Not that bad

[upper violet]

I really hate the minions of zul

[sick sentinel]

Send a belf in there to eliminate them

[upper violet]

They make me tilt harder than anything else

Alliance :/

[sick sentinel]

Well there is your first problem

[warm plinth]

Uhhh

Idk

[sweet summit]

tyrannical KR is uhhh

how good is your healer?

[warm plinth]

Tyrannical KR is a fuck that dungeon that week

Imo

[upper violet]

Pretty good tbh

[sweet summit]

so is fortified KR

imo

[upper violet]

Holy pala

[warm plinth]

We do fine on fort with my comp but tyr is brutal

Spit gold is dumb

[sweet summit]

we dont have a VDH :(

we have me :(

[warm plinth]

Spit gold would be fine if it was baitable somehow

But when you get it on the same person 3-4 times in a row

[sweet summit]

bring a prot warrior for safeguard

[warm plinth]

It’s not okay

[sick sentinel]

Maybe I’ll make my guild carry my bear through a 16 and get us a 15

“Will you pls carry my bear for my weekly sky hold scuffed alt run”

[tame garden]

my monk has shrine 16

[warm plinth]

lol

Speg saving the fuckin day

I'm super excited to heal 16 stacks of bursting in the first room

We are going to die.

[upper violet]

can u do that dumb dungeon without dying or 5 immunity classes

[tame garden]

yeah

just dont roll stacks

[flat jackal]

Does vers reduce thing from beyond damage?

[chilly brook]

@warm plinth I think you're expecting too much from my shaman

[warm plinth]

Yes @flat jackal

[flat jackal]

@warm plinth ty

[warm plinth]

What do you mean by that @chilly brook lol

[chilly brook]

I mean its scuffed

We ain't getting past 3 stacks at any given time

[warm plinth]

😂

[chilly brook]

390 weapons baby

[sick sentinel]

Our dps is going to be more scuffed than last week

[chilly brook]

Scrub enhancement

[sick sentinel]

Bosses are going to take 15 minutes

[chilly brook]

Panda enhancement

Yeet

I guess I could always just play huntard

[still pagoda]

fuck

skittish is nonexistent now

literally had zero aggro drops

[upper violet]

[wicked orchid]

Is it worth going for rank 4 TD? I just got a piece of r1 TD which would bring me up to rank 4, but the problem is if I were to go for rank 4 I wouldn't have enough resistance to go for anything else and be under my preferred corruption level. Currently I am running rank 3 TD and rank 3 Expedient, so I would have to cleanse the rank 3 expedient to be able to run rank 4 TD

[next yacht]

why not just hold onto the td1 until you can run all of it?

[covert saffron]

Personally I use a 4 TD build with 3 Expe for mythic runs but drop to 3 TD and 6 Expe in raids

[wicked orchid]

I would do that but the piece is a big upgrade, so I am trying weigh losing the item level and saving the piece for rank 4 TD or cleansing it but gaining the upgrade

And rank 4 TD and 3 Expe is my goal for M+ but I am behind on the weekly resistance, so I don't have enough to have those and stay below 39 corruption, if that's possible

[still pagoda]

Is it worth going for rank 4 TD? I just got a piece of r1 TD which would bring me up to rank 4, but the problem is if I were to go for rank 4 I wouldn't have enough resistance to go for anything else and be under my preferred corruption level. Currently I am running rank 3 TD and rank 3 Expedient, so I would have to cleanse the rank 3 expedient to be able to run rank 4 TD
@wicked orchid
Always worth going for TD4-5

[ornate magnet]

you cant swap expedient with any other gear?

if not, just cleanse and take td4

[still pagoda]

^

[wicked orchid]

I cannot, it's on weapon, and I currently do not have a weapon better than or on par with it

[ornate magnet]

or if you REALLY want exp, then just wait til your cape catches up

there's no other way around it, lol

[upper violet]

I mean

I would wait and run the r3 td i prob

And wait for cloak upgrade

Or just u know run more than 39

Fuck it

[wicked orchid]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking, but I just wanted to see other opinions

[upper violet]

U can feat reflect stormbolt u know

Fear*

[civic raven]

yeah i run 59

stormbolt, fear, cloak on use, spell reflect, shockwave

so many ways to get rid of it

[wicked orchid]

Oh, good point, I've stayed away from TFB, so I didn't realize we had that much defense against it, I think I'll do a few M+/ raids with it and see how it goes, then go from there, thanks!

[upper violet]

How much are you with the 4td and 3ex

[wicked orchid]

51

[civic raven]

idk if i wanna run 4td and mythic wrathion weapon, or 5td and a 470 weapon

[upper violet]

You should test like 1 dungeon with the 51 to see how it feels

If u can consistently deal with the thing and the circle isnt too big seems good to me tbh

[wicked orchid]

Yeah, I'll be sure to do that

[civic raven]

what minor essence do yall run when you need the corruption resist essence

[strong forum]

strength of the warden mostly

[upper violet]

Same

[onyx gale]

Hey all, long time lurker here.

I'm currently a 476 Prot warrior in a Mythic progress guild. I main tank and do mythic plus often, and throughout the expansion, I've been stacking haste. As of late, I've seen a huge trend towards versatility and I'm very convinced by it. The question I have is, should I remove my haste gems and swap to versatility already, or is it better to keep haste until vers comes back into corruption vendor and I can get the 12% increase from sources? Second, is Leviathan's Eye of Strength ever viable in a socket? I feel like strength is affecting my gameplay a lot less than haste/vers. Thanks guys for the help; I've learned a lot from this sub, and I appreciate how much time you guys put into posts on here.

[strong forum]

vers stacking is only a thing in the highest of keys, 120 and 80 str gems can be used, thats not a problem secondary stats however gain more value the deeper you are into an expac, so most people just default to haste gems, or vers for high keys

[onyx gale]

Gotcha, so for raid I'm much better off with haste. That was really my question

Appreciate it!

[chilly brook]

@onyx gale like Nom has stated, yes you are better off with haste in raid

[strong forum]

unless youre constantly in 23+, focusing on vers will do you no better unless youre playing incorrectly

[chilly brook]

You're not in a position where you're going to get one shot in mythic nyalotha if you play properly

[onyx gale]

I also feel like I get so much more uptime per amoutn of haste I get on my active miti

Every bit of haste feels amazing

[strong forum]

yes, thats part of the reason why we stack it

[chilly brook]

The biggest problem you might run into is lazy healers

[strong forum]

a big part of it

[chilly brook]

If your healers are slacking on specific things like cleanses on vex that's the only use case where vers might be more valuable but even then you're probably dead anyways if they're slacking

[onyx gale]

Right

Even with double dissolve and my other tank being dead

I was fine

Which makes me think that vers wasn't that great but I keep seeing it show up so I felt like maybe I was missing something. Most keys I do hover between 16-20 so I doubt I need it

[chilly brook]

You likely wouldn't notice any difference with vers until you went to the umpteenth degree to stack it and even then it would require you to go out of your way to do so that also wouldn't give you much benefit

In the content you're currently doing that is

When looking at top keys done you have to ask questions about why they're using what they're using, because their use case is different than most people's because what's required of them to succeed at that level is completely different

[warm plinth]

You're not my dad Griff, I'll wear what I want

brb stacking vers on my druid

[upper violet]

New meta

[still pagoda]

THIS IS NEW ERA!

[lusty nova]

For visions, out of prot vs arms, which has an easier time?

[still pagoda]

prot

[sweet summit]

prot if you have TD imo

[still pagoda]

you just steamroll this shit

[upper violet]

Im always ded to rexxar

Maybe i should drums on him or something

[still pagoda]

i'm always oneshotting rexxar

[upper violet]

Gamble te

Td

[sweet summit]

i drums rexxar, cba the boars

[warm plinth]

I'll drums your rexxar

[sick sentinel]

I ran my first 5 mask as havoc dh and I never realized how easy they have it

I thought prot was easy

[upper violet]

Do u go to rexxar wing first or the other side

[still pagoda]

drum on rexxar

[sick sentinel]

But dh is just brain off

[warm plinth]

I mean, if you think havoc has it easy, go do one on a BM hunter

[sick sentinel]

Brb

[warm plinth]

I do Drag>Honor>Wisdom>Spirits

[upper violet]

Idk the names dude

Just say the boss

[still pagoda]

drums vibrate, Rexxar hogs reverberate

[warm plinth]

Void torrent/shield guy, Rexxar, orb/adds guy, silence orb guy

[still pagoda]

^

[upper violet]

Hmm

[sick sentinel]

You know the names of the bosses in the vision but not the zones of an old ass horde city

[warm plinth]

Imagine knowing the names of the bosses besides Rexxar

[sick sentinel]

Impressive

[upper violet]

I dont play horde

I used to

[sick sentinel]

I don’t think I know a single bosses name besides rexxar

[upper violet]

A while ago

[warm plinth]

Uh

[sick sentinel]

I even called thrall the wrong name the other day

[warm plinth]

I know the one on the left

[sweet summit]

thrall

[warm plinth]

in wisdom

Is the void-crazed hulk

[upper violet]

Ya

[warm plinth]

That's it though

Oh wait

Spirits boss is oblivion elemental

[sick sentinel]

MISHA

does that count

[warm plinth]

And yeah Misha

And uh

Mindhunter

is the 2nd honor miniboss

[upper violet]

And the bug dude

[sick sentinel]

You do know them

[upper violet]

Ya

[sick sentinel]

NERD ALERT

[warm plinth]

Fuck my life

I don't know the names of the other two wisdom bosses though

Or the names of the two bosses in Drag

[upper violet]

I mean u dont need the name its a quick description

[sick sentinel]

all I know is I am supposed to slay this monstrosity in the name of the mag’har

[warm plinth]

I don't know many of the Stormwind ones either

Umbric

Shaw

[sick sentinel]

Forge master somethin

[warm plinth]

Forge master something

Yeah lol

[upper violet]

Slaver something

[warm plinth]

Inquisitor something

Slaver something

Corrupted Fleshbeast

Armsmaster something

[sick sentinel]

The fleshbeast is a hilarious name

[upper violet]

Theres the warlock guy

[warm plinth]

Yeah idk the warlock guy's name even a little

[sick sentinel]

There’s a warlock guy?

[warm plinth]

Yeah

The shadow bolt/rain of fire due

dude

in Mage District

[sick sentinel]

Ohhhh

[warm plinth]

I just think of him as the free miniboss

[sick sentinel]

I just SR him on my way by and TD go brrr

[upper violet]

Yep

[warm plinth]

Yeah he's a joke no matter what you're playing on

[upper violet]

So anyways.. on org i always went to the bigboi first then silence after that tormentor and rexxar

I did it the opposite eay

Way

[chilly brook]

@warm plinth you won't stack mastery on your bear

No balls

[warm plinth]

Sure I will

I'd tank the run this week if I had a weapon and trinkets

[chilly brook]

Lol

Just do it with no weapon ez

You got claws

[warm plinth]

I tanked a run with my azshara staff once

[sick sentinel]

I tanked a run with a 390 warglaive and a strength weapon

So what if I had to infernal strike on cd in place to keep threat

[marsh smelt]

Is there any math online of Devastator vs Booming Voice for single target? (Assuming 1 Deafening Crash & 3 Bastion of Might)

[nova idol]

Can Clockwork Heart proc at a higher rate than once per minute if packs last less than a minute?

[sweet summit]

@marsh smelt deva is more damage on ST

@nova idol no

[noble oak]

So does anyone have a clear answer that when using devastator and a ton of haste, is shield block worth more dmg per rage than revenge? it seems decently hard to determine

[limpid pawn]

Single target it’s always more damage

[still pagoda]

Revenge is only used on proc

[rancid flicker]

hey so im new to tanking and i was just wondering why prioritize ilvl over traits ? is it cause of the armor and stam increase? and does higher agi make you more tanky?

[still pagoda]

Even IP has more DPR due to AM

@rancid flicker

1. The only trait worth ilvl is first and last DC piece. Technically, ilvl benefits that traits get outweigh most traits except for aforementioned example

2. Agility does nothing for strength specs nowadays

[rancid flicker]

ah yea sorry i mean higher str make you more tanky

[still pagoda]

Ilvl is the king for all tank specs nowadays

Ideally you want to look for ilvl>haste>crit>=verse>mastery

[daring bay]

anyway to see in details if you have gotten hit in the back through a dungeon?

[rancid flicker]

ty @still pagoda

[chilly brook]

I'm sure there is, theres a whole encounter breakdown you can bring up in details

I just dont mess with it that much

[still pagoda]

^

I just know when i get hit in the back

Because it drops you really fast if you allow for such

[limpid pawn]

It depends on what level dungeons you are going for

[warm plinth]

Logs would be how I would determine that probably. Look at events, look for SB buff but no blocked number in the event

[limpid pawn]

22-23+ dungeons you can consider swapping to versatility builds

According to people here as well as some streamers

And it’s good advice to be honest

[warm plinth]

We have a pin written by Naowh about when to use what

[limpid pawn]

Yeah his google doc article thing is on point

[lean ermine]

so at lower m+ whats the best corruption?

[still pagoda]

TD

[lean ermine]

really ok

ty

[cobalt nest]

what would u guys say its better Psychic shell or Sigil of Warding, what instances would i run one over another

[sick sentinel]

I haven never used sigil but shell is a must have in my book for pushing keys to highish or High levels. Basically a nice cd for every pull

[cobalt nest]

ok cool, i wasnt sure if the nyalotha bonus buff would make it worse outside of raid compared to sigil

ty friend

[lusty nova]

Late reply, still working; thx for the replies regarding vision spec

[main current]

Hello everyone. I'm really starting to dive into prot warrior for the first time since cata. It's been a lot of fun. I'm trying to do a lot of research on the spec and it turns out that there aren't a ton of in depth resources. I'm currently trying to figure out which trinket to use, i've got 470 ilvl gore-crusted butchers block, 460 humming black dragonscale and 460 void-twisted titanshard. Can anyone tell me which trinkets are the best to run and more importantly, why that comp of trinkets is best? THank you ahead of time!!!!

[warm plinth]

You can scrap the titanshard, and the other two are solid

Ideally you'd want something like Rezan's Gleaming Eye + Vita from Ra-den.

[main current]

if you don't mind me asking, why go with that comp of trinkets? does the overall strength increase outweigh the versatility? or is it more based on ilvl > than stats/equp

[sick sentinel]

The void twisted trinket is just buns that’s why that combo. The shield is gone almost instantly In most real content so the crit bonus is never there. The general philosophy is more stats = better stats. The ~200 vers you get from that trinket won’t save your life. Whereas a nice uptime in haste with scale and a good crit block you will get more value in the long run

[chilly brook]

@main current there are plenty of in depth resources, any of the guides in #268491842637660160 are completely accurate and contain all the information you need

[leaden grail]

does anyone have a weakaura that helps me see when some1 in my group uses font of power?

im basically looking for an icon that pops up when some1 fonts & stays on screen for 20 seconds

[sick sentinel]

Is there a general rule of thumb for corruptions? Like I'm close to being able to get TD 3 when it comes out but my friends tell me it would be better to get TD 1's

im just coming back to the game and dont know a lot about optimizations in terms of corruptions

[warm plinth]

No reason to care about what rank of TD you get as a prot war, especially if you’re not pushing high enough to need a versatile set.

It’s the same cost for the same corruption for the same damage.

[sick sentinel]

yea I guess so

I'm only 460 Ilvl and im just aiming to do 15's every week for me and my friends and maybe some heroic / early mythic stuff

I just need some form of TD I guess. Thanks!

So the Noah pin (which is great) really only applies to stuff 20+?

[plucky jacinth]

Anyone use Jes’s howler? Vers seems to be meta now I guess.

[warm plinth]

He says when you should use each corruption in the article @sick sentinel

[sick sentinel]

@warm plinth sorry, I meant the essence build. Noah only mentions the conflict major and lucid major build, not VoP

[warm plinth]

Lucid can be used as soon as you are comfortable using it and want the control it offers. VoP is fine as a go-to major until then. Conflict and Lucid were mentioned in the article as builds that he uses for certain situations when the vers build is required, so that would be very high keys.

[sick sentinel]

Ok that makes sense!

[cursive hedge]

which boots would you guys use?

[slender finch]

for everything sub 20 literally just stack td and blast

Killing things fast is survivability

[cursive hedge]

i have TDs, i just have extra wiggle room for 10 more corruption

i'll swap it out once i have enough resistance for a fifth stack

[slender finch]

by now I dropped all defense and with few more cloak ups going from td5 to td6

Basically playing like 4dps + heal

rezan was a little scary this week but most other things np w/o any def trinket or defense essences

[civic raven]

is heart of darkness or iron fortress better?

for mythic raiding

[sick sentinel]

HoD

[civic raven]

HoD for m+ too i assume?

[sick sentinel]

Yes

IF is not bad tho don’t get it twisted

If you have a shit shield If might even be better until you get a good one

[blazing current]

hey guys. wassup. wanted to ask you about corruption. Into the fray gives me very high portion of haste and bastion of might gives mastery. So I wanted to increase my versatility and I cant choose what corruption is better: proc or solid %

[warm plinth]

Check out the article in the pins for what corruptions you should use @blazing current

[blazing current]

there are stars and devastation. dats no interesting to me. I wanted to discuss with experienced warriors

[warm plinth]

It talks about versatility corruptions in the article.

[limpid pawn]

the dream for high keys is like 5x versatile 3 and 1 rank 3 surging vitality

and full versa gems/enchants

[analog zinc]

i tried to charge back onto drestagath & it tab targetted a TFB that JUST spawned ._.

[left hatch]

mouseover macro for intercept is a game changer

[analog zinc]

i have a mod mouseover macro for it

1 charges my target, alt 1 charges my mouseover

but i mainly use it for charging friendlies

[left hatch]

fair

[civic raven]

anyone have a suggestion if i should gear up fury or arms for an offspec for m+ specifically?

[last mason]

I fucking hate tyrannical week

[civic raven]

idk if ones way better or easier to learn, or has a similar stat prio to prot

[last mason]

Playing with 2-2.5k io pugs that still don’t know dungeon mechanics after 2 years of xpac

Boosted by gear

Hunter sitting on ledge of second shrine boss with 9 stacks of debuff gets oneshot by gale slice

Wonders why I leave key

[left hatch]

From my understanding both are pretty easy to learn

but arms is way way more trait/gear dependent than fury

[modern brook]

doesnt fury need 3 cshb?

[left hatch]

like if you don't have a certain threshold of haste that you bascially need expedient to get, arms is basically poo

[modern brook]

i mean arms needs 3 tom's so

yeah thats also fairr

[left hatch]

yeh but i don't think fury has a certain like... crit threshold to make cshb to work haha

[modern brook]

yeah arms doesnt even feel like a spec below 30% haste

[spare marsh]

new prot warrior.. whats the best corruption for us to have?

[left hatch]

Twilight Dev

[spare marsh]

nvm read the pinned posts

[left hatch]

that too haha

[civic raven]

someone please confirm this for me because my dumb guildie is making me think im crazy, spell reflect works as just a 5 sec 20% magic damage reduction right?

until it reflects something u take 20% less damage, for 5 seconds

[left hatch]

yeh

[civic raven]

so like shads dot

yeah

ty

he was so adamant i thought i was being the dumb one

kinda off topic, are there any boss spells you can straight up reflect?

i cant think of any

[left hatch]

theres a google doc in #268491842637660160

[civic raven]

oh word

[left hatch]

shows everything reflectable/deflectable

[civic raven]

nice, thanks

[chilly brook]

@blazing current if you're asking for the most effective way to play dont throw a fit when the conventional wisdom isn't "interesting"

You're free to play how you'd like but don't get angry over the answer

[main vault]

Idk how Stars and TD isn’t interesting, but a flat stat boost is

[sick sentinel]

i think i'mma have to race change to orc/be, tauren armor too ugly

[warm plinth]

Make it a vulpera, you know you want to

[last mason]

Any tips for tanking shrine second boa

Boss

Fight always feels like it overwhelms me

[warm plinth]

Overwhelms you in what way?

[wild sandal]

should i try to stack IT instead of TD for +15s? iv seen some warrior run that but mostly for 20+

[warm plinth]

Two IT1s is enough

TD is still what you want mostly though, especially if you're only doing 15s

[hallow phoenix]

Is insanity bomb reflectable on carapace? Have an instance where i didnt get the debuff and got feared, and the only culprit i can suspect is reflect

[wild sandal]

running TD r5 right now, was thinking to make it r3 and use IT

[warm plinth]

@hallow phoenix

[hallow phoenix]

thx

new to me

tanknotes didnt mention it

[warm plinth]

#268491842637660160 Reflectable/blockable spreadsheet in that channel

[last mason]

@warm plinth keeping track of almost invisible (for me) Nadoes, trying to keep track of stacks, trying to drop stacks, and interupt

It just feels like such a pug killer all the time

Especially this week

[civic raven]

reflecting hiveminds mind numbing nova only reflects the one on you right?

raid still eats it?

[hallow phoenix]

pretty sure yes

[shut summit]

yes

[last mason]

Would someone mind explaining the shrine second boss corner strat, and basically when you need to actually move out of the corner

[sharp night]

move when you have to dodge tornado and when they spawn the green rune

[sturdy salmon]

some tricks to tank wrathion on mythic ? i always die on 2nd breath :c new to raid on protection war

[mental anchor]

Make sure you have ignore pain, it’s not physical so don’t worry about SB. Avatar gives you a def buff, use a nzoth trinket or maut trinket, shield wall dampens damage. If all else fails get better gear/more vers/have better healers

[wicked orchid]

Also, be sure to use spell reflection, it will reduce the damage of the breath by 20%. Although I don't raid mythic, I usually save the spell reflect for the second one.

[inland mesa]

spell reflect + last stand/shield wall/external/n'zoth trinket it and you shouldn't die

just TD proc right before the third one and rip aggro, then it gets spicey XD

[wicked orchid]

You can also rallying cry if you need some extra health to survive

[sturdy salmon]

and what essences should i use for raid?

[inland mesa]

to live or to dps

[sturdy salmon]

live for now

[wicked orchid]

Personally, I use VoP major, Conflict and Strife minor, The Formless Void minor, and Null Dynamo minor

Null Dynamo would probably be a big help if you don't already use it

[inland mesa]

depending fight you can swap null for the rage one, and if you don't need extra corruption resist change that for sphere

but usually correct play / using externals makes the bigger difference than minors, but yeah if you find yourself low for breaths null would help

[stiff oracle]

You shouldnt need anything at all for 1st breath. Just have IP up. Spell reflect + IP is enough if youre topped but no reason to hold your cds for too long. I rotate demo shout/last stand/shield wall on 2nd breaths. And play VoP major if youre not comfortable with the movement debuff

@sturdy salmon

If you have nzoth trinket just use that on 2nd breaths

[sturdy salmon]

thx

is better for raid the formless void than strength of the warden?

[amber siren]

yep

[dark saddle]

guys for m+ essences and i dont have conflict, is this setup fine? vop (majr), warden, aegis, null

or shud i use lucid for minor?

[sweet summit]

Replace null with lucid yeah

[dark saddle]

ok. do i need to use Null on certain dungeons? like shrine, etc

or its just a l2p thing

[sweet summit]

No, shrine has avoidable magic damage so not very used there

[dark saddle]

lets say the keys are arund 18-19

[sweet summit]

Null can be used in workshop, ML tyrann, ToS and WCM

[dark saddle]

ahh

ty2

[orchid frigate]

oh i've been using null way too much then

lol femclap swapped to pandaren as well

[cosmic canyon]

What's the argument on lucid above null? How much hidden % damage/Dr is there in the rage kickback?

[sweet summit]

Null is a small absorb and splits damage in aoe, not very m+ friendly. I use it mainly for WS and ML because boss dps and it helps a bit with surviving

[cosmic canyon]

Overall damage/Dr from null is greater than the gain from 30% uptime on the versa buff & healing gained from the procc on lucid

[sweet summit]

Lucid is just great, as its more rage to feed into AM with

Not just the heal and vers

[cosmic canyon]

That's why I'm asking the specific question of how much hidden value there is in the extra rage in terms of dmg/dr. Anyone did estimates?

[sweet summit]

No but i could check some logs and see the rage i got from it

I get like 1.3k-1.5k rage from lucid

But i also use the major, so the numbers are a bit higher than they would be when using VoP major

VS null, that does like 1.5k hps/dps (?)

[strong forum]

Null doesn't work vs non magic dmg. Not every dungeon has magic dmg

It doesn't deal dmg if there's no magic dmg that hits the shield

In alot of dungeons there's not enough magic dmg to validate its use over other essences

[mortal brook]

every dungeon has magic if you eat eye of corruptions \o/

[orchid frigate]

😄

[mortal brook]

but it doesnt proc consistently enough for null

D:

[strong forum]

Also null doesn't scale with key level, unlike stat corruptions like the vers proc of lucid

[orchid frigate]

can i add another cast bar with stock elvui?

for target

[strong forum]

What do you mean 'another'

[orchid frigate]

so you have two

[strong forum]

🤔

[orchid frigate]

one by the unit frame and another in the middle of the screen

[strong forum]

What for, you can detach the cast bar / make it bigger

[orchid frigate]

but i want it a both places 😦

[strong forum]

You can do that with WAs probably

[orchid frigate]

yeah

i know

[still pagoda]

can i add another cast bar with stock elvui?
@orchid frigate

Quartz and WA

[orchid frigate]

alright alright

[still pagoda]

I can try reverse engineering WA-made cast bar from Afenar's sets

But later on when i'm done with all the IRL for today

[orchid frigate]

ill just snag one from wago. was just hoping to be able to do without. ty tho ❤️

this one will probably do https://wago.io/rxmLil95V

[lofty musk]

! Guide

[sweet summit]

#268491842637660160

[green elbow]

I can't seem to find an answer to this, but can you reflect kujo's bite thing?

The dot from hell

( I assume it doesn't go on him, but it feels single target, so maybe it won't wreck you?)

[amber siren]

it'll give you the 20% spell damage DR but it doesn't reflect or deflect it

[green elbow]

Okie, thanks. I was -reasonably- sure it didn't work, but the dot from ML does so had to ask.

[sturdy dome]

whats the trick

with

Rixxa in ML

[marble cipher]

the dot?

[sturdy dome]

No

Moving the cuck

She does so much dam when melee cant bait

[marble cipher]

hm, never really had issues with moving her tbf

[sturdy dome]

She hits like a fuckin truck

[strong forum]

Well yeah

It's pure magic dmg

[marble cipher]

^

[sturdy dome]

I just rage quit a 17 ML since melee could not bait

[still pagoda]

I never had problems with surviving Rixxa

[marble cipher]

bait the "wind" thingie you mean? to clean the puddles?

[sturdy dome]

yeah

to clean puddles

[still pagoda]

But seen huntard dying in the puddle yesterday

[sturdy dome]

I just

witnessed

it

every pull

[still pagoda]

He probably played tanks in MoP too much 😂

[sturdy dome]

hey

blood dks in mop

were fun

u didnt need a healer

[still pagoda]

Stand in fire - DPS higher!

[sturdy dome]

yeah im not tanking motherloade this week

[still pagoda]

ML is really easy this week

[marble cipher]

It's not bad, if you want you can hearthstone out after second boss and respec

Remove the shield block talents for IP and HP

Cause last two bosses don't melee

[sturdy dome]

It's p easy if u leave before u know u cant tank rixxa

:^)

[marble cipher]

Well, they do melee, but for some reason it's magic 😜

[green elbow]

For some reason I thought one or the other did some laughable melee damage (between the massive magic spikes)

[orchid frigate]

swiftmend saber reflectable?

[undone sun]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRvMMhBT1xyvECDvAlxXirfLYtgzYZ18vjY3zRyA4LU7NgVg5Vmj-MroMT5W6i94q0aYNodyer0hbZ3/pubhtml#

[orchid frigate]

ty

wonder what i just saw femclap reflect then 🤔

[still pagoda]

Emmm... It is aoe. You can't reflect it anyway

[marble cipher]

not always true, remember G'huun pizza pie floor aoe's 😄

[sturdy dome]

What's recommended this week

[still pagoda]

Oh

Fucking G'huun tumors on last phase

[sturdy dome]

I'm about to "attempt" a 20 TD w/ cns major aegis minor. lucid and vop

[green elbow]

Very nice, thank you @undone sun

[versed widget]

do you guys run ignore pain talent or bolster in shrine

[undone sun]

always bolster

[marble cipher]

bolster, always, apart from last two bosses in ML if you wanna hearthstone out

[undone sun]

[still pagoda]

Always bolster

[versed widget]

thanks guys

[undone sun]

i don't believe NS is recommended for ML anymore

[green elbow]

At least in legion there were some 'aoes' that reflect worked on, though it was pretty random, but this spreadsheet is very nice to have.

[still pagoda]

You won't really need NS even on last 2 bosses of ML

[versed widget]

im just scared waterblasts wont get kicked in this pug 😐

[undone sun]

NS wont fix that

[marble cipher]

fair enough, I never HS'd out though, just mimic what I've heard here in the past 😄

[still pagoda]

Only getting good DPS into group will help with that

[strong forum]

Keep in mind, NS doesn't increase your IP if you're high HP.

So if you're low enough, no amount of IP will save you

If you're at 200k HP and a blast goes off, you're just dead

NS only does anything if you're low HP, you press IP and then get topped again

It really isn't that useful. If people can do 25+ rixxa without NS, then you will be able to on 17

[green elbow]

I actually figured (just my thought, could be wrong) that punish would be the big get for the bosses that really truck magically

Doesn't seem worth losing the haste, though

[strong forum]

Haste = more rage = more IP = more CDs like Demo / SW / LS

And 15% is quite a chunk

[green elbow]

Yeah, punish would just -occasionaly- turn a oneshot without cooldowns into a not oneshot. But as I said, probably not worth it.

And a pretty damn narrow window

[upper violet]

any1 else had a small update or just me

[inland bolt]

@undone sun why isnt NS recommended for ML?

[sweet summit]

1 minute less CD on LS is large

[upper violet]

and the block thing is nice

[sweet summit]

Not on last two ML

[upper violet]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sturdy dome]

i did it

i timed a 20 TD

[marble cipher]

damn, I hate TD so much that I barely time a 15 there 😄

[sturdy dome]

dis good

or bad

[brittle owl]

that doesnt mean anything

[amber siren]

if youre asking if theres a certain uptime %, then no

[sweet summit]

Wtf even is that window in details

I never understood it

[sturdy dome]

avoidance section

LOL

[brittle owl]

theres legimitately no information to be gathered from that

[ionic fern]

^

[brittle owl]

post a log if you want proper feedback

[upper violet]

how do i log dungeons

and how do i see them afterwards

[brittle owl]

same way you log raigs

warcraftlogs.com

theres a guide there to logging as well

[upper violet]

ait

ill log some today

i think i might do a 13kr

but its very cancerous

[marble cipher]

KR's fine this week, at least on those key levels

only the minion packs will spike bursting, and taht's two times

[brittle owl]

x doubt

KR is cancer on low keys

no matter the week

[marble cipher]

yeah, as I typed bursting, I noticed I made an error there hahaha

was thinking "fine on lower tyr weeks", but bursting fucks over low keys

[still pagoda]

KR is cancer on low keys
no matter the week [2]

[upper violet]

kr is always cancer

[brittle owl]

nah

[upper violet]

also im mostly pugging

[brittle owl]

it's actually p chill higher

[upper violet]

sometimes i play with a healer but thats it

[still pagoda]

nah

KR is pretty chill even on tyr weeks

just that you need good party

[brittle owl]

yeah

[still pagoda]

it is a real cancer in lower bracket

[brittle owl]

you have the least amount of input in KR as a tank tbh

[upper violet]

im really scared of ppl fucking up the 1st boss and bricking the key

[brittle owl]

healer has alot on his plate, so do dps so they don't die

[upper violet]

from there its okay

[brittle owl]

👀

[still pagoda]

i have a day-off today so gonna run more M+ before raid night

[brittle owl]

first boss is legit the easiest doe

key gets bricked more often than not on council boss, zul, or last

[still pagoda]

^

[brittle owl]

heck, its more probable to get bricked on mchimba

than first boss

or the bridge pulls

[upper violet]

idk im really scared to fuck it up

i have horrible memories of first boss getting a huge shield

but that was in like

8.0

a very long time ago i dont remember much about the dungeons

[brittle owl]

🤔

[stiff drum]

Hey guys, for pushing ~18-19-20 keys. How much corruption are people running generally? If i want to run TD5 i have no room for other corruptions because i have 56 corruption already. You guys think that's fine/manageable?

[brittle owl]

it's up to you fam

and how comfy you are with the class/dungeons

[ionic fern]

^
I've been 100% lazy as of late with corruptions so i just run 39 or slightly above 40.

[brittle owl]

i wouldn't run over 40 if i do a key thats higher than what i normally do

simply due to surprise factor of not knowing the damage patters

[stiff drum]

ye, that's what i was thinking. but then that gear set would only have TD2 😦

i prefer not going over 39 either

[brittle owl]

if its a keylevel ive done

59 all the way bby

[stiff drum]

but maybe TD5 would've been worth it.

[ionic fern]

What else are you running next to TD5 then?

[stiff drum]

nada, my corr res is too low still

[brittle owl]

oof

git grinding then

td5 is sub 40 already

[ionic fern]

And i thought i was behind with my 2 weeks.

👀

[upper violet]

im sooo behind

theres no way i could run more than 4td

[ionic fern]

Ofc you can.

[upper violet]

cloak only giving 53

OOF

[ionic fern]

Just go for 200+ Corruption.

And hope for the best.

[upper violet]

true

you die or u dont die it is what it is

[stiff drum]

yea, i need to get grinding indeed. Though i Main my warrior ^^

so i dont do Nzoth weekly >.<

*i Dont main my warrior

[still pagoda]

And i thought i was behind with my 2 weeks.
@ionic fern

pfff

i'm only at 65 cloak res

[upper violet]

hopefully ill be able to find a 30 tank hc grp

[strong forum]

83 chad here

[green elbow]

83 is the current cloak max

[strong forum]

Exactly

[sweet summit]

😎

[brittle owl]

i might just do a vision this week

so i can run td6 in raid

👀

[green elbow]

Next week you can run TD 7 and stay under 80

That would be..intersting.

[ionic fern]

I'm like...77(?)

[upper violet]

nullification worth in ToS or nah ?

[sweet summit]

I wanna say nah

[upper violet]

i think ill try it cuz theres some annoying casts that dont always get kicked in many pulls

[orchid frigate]

any good place you can go back to and have a look on which essences to use where?

[sick sentinel]

ToS doesn't have anything that will one shot you without null

[sweet summit]

VoP major for m+
CoF major for raids/visions

-CnS - Always CnS!
-Lucid(works for any content)
-Aegis(m+/visions)/Sphere(m+/visions)/warden(m+)/void(raids/m+/visions)
-null(raids (WS, ML,WCM(?))) [VoP minor for raids if you have CoF major]

Pick 3 minors, only 1 corruption resistance. void>warden if you have someone with CoF major in the group

[orchid frigate]

thanks rosjen

[sick sentinel]

WCM? Why WCM