but you have to soothe all the skellies don't you?
#protection
trail dome
trail dome
oh really? I always assumed with how quickly it was reapplied it was on the whole pack
i guess it does give them 100% haste too
amber siren
2.5 second cast, 5 second CD
cosmic coral
so basically i watch for wicked frenzy int and my dps focus on the raise dead int
warm plinth
You can only stun the wicked frenzy cast. Can't be kicked
trail dome
^
amber siren
yep
sick sentinel
Max melee speed. Skeletons have no wind resistance.
cosmic coral
so i shockwave it?
trail dome
shock & bolt
have dps focus him down
if it goes off have rdruid soothe the skeleton then dispel you
i'd fucking run until those 2 globals happen
because that shit really hurts
cosmic coral
does he cast it quickly or no? like if i stun him will i have stun up again or should my dps get ready to stun it/
trail dome
you have 2 stuns
warm plinth
He'll immediately recast it when the stun expires
trail dome
^
warm plinth
Well, near immediately anyway
cosmic coral
i do? i thought i only had shockwave
trail dome
storm bolt
trail dome
storm bolt is bis
sick sentinel
That joke was comedic gold and you all disappoint me
amber siren
it's a 2.5s cast so you don't need amazing reactions but depending on the key, you might run into stun DR before you need soothes
trail dome
also uh
when i was doing UR 20
the fucking charge thing the matrons do really claps
idk if / what ranged you have
but careful of that one
cosmic coral
gonna have a hunter
do i just make sure im not in his los?
my hunters i mean, so matron doesnt hit me
warm plinth
Nah it only does damage when she gets where she's going
trail dome
The charge?
warm plinth
Yeah
trail dome
I swear it does damage as soon as she picks a target
before she gets there
It's 1am though maybe i'm misremembering
warm plinth
I've never taken damage from it before and I'm melee so I would pretty much always be between her and the hunter
Unless she charged in melee ofc
warm plinth
Right
trail dome
but it will instantly damage your hunter, is what i mean
cosmic coral
i never knew blood matron was a she, i guess i shoulda known by the "matron" in the mobs name
trail dome
you can't dodge the damage
trail dome
it was nearly oneshotting our mage
warm plinth
Yeah it hurts a lot
trail dome
if he didn't have barrier up
cosmic coral
also, since im doing blob with last boss, how far do i wanna be going when boss does his puke stuff?
trail dome
idk if you know but
blob drops pools on self, dps, self, dps
if you are really tryharding you can pay attention to that (or maybe make one other person in your group pay attention to it) and call it out
which can make dropping them a bit easier
cosmic coral
ah , i didnt know htat actually, do u know the seconds between the drops?
warm plinth
Strongly strongly strongly suggest this https://wago.io/T_8vzVdmg
warm plinth
Won't have the CD for the player targeted spit but it does have CD for his self spit, but the targeted one typically happens right before or right as he does the self spit
cosmic coral
i was mostly wanting to know the self spit since my dps wont neccesarily be like directly on top of me, just in the premise of that yellow circle thing
warm plinth
That'll be perfect then
trail dome
i did UR (only a 15-16 or smth tho to help weekly) earlier today
and i will say
blob & quaking is actual kinda a meme on last boss
finding places to stand can sometimes be a challenge.
that said the run was 3 trap alts so
warm plinth
Yeah, I'm sure all it takes is a quaking to happen as he spits and now you have 2 random ass pools
stiff oracle
wait till you do that boss on quaking with fear and blob obelisk at the same time in MDI
makes for a very fun encounter
trail dome
I do not want that.
Wait if it's MDI though you have revival I guess
which sounds helpful.
Which one did you kill 1st? Fear guy I assume?
stiff oracle
focus fear (revival 1st set of fears, fear immunes second set of casts)
dps check is that it dies before 3rd fears go out
trail dome
ezclap
I love how thunderclap works on that boss fight
you get to pretend to be a DK
It's nice.
slender veldt
For pushing 22+ keys would you use mythic scale or alchemy trinket. My stats are 25%crit, 26% haste, 27% mastery, 8% vers. My other trinket is lingering. I’m leaning towards scale, but the increased health pot is nice.
cosmic coral
how is your hsate so low wtheck
amber siren
i don't think there's ever really been a case where i've thought that extra pot hp would of saved me
cosmic coral
health pot kinda tickles ngl
amber siren
yeah that's where i thought that question was going when i saw alch trinket
trail dome
but to be helpful i'd go dragonscale unless you're playing vers stacking then i'd have a very serious think about what in the dungeon could potentially burst you
and if you don't think of that much it'd definitely be dragonscale
craggy harness
hmm, going to try visions again soon, should i be using dps trinkets together
like 460 jar and the mech channel trink
or stick with haste trinkets
trail dome
but i mean maybe the hpot? I dunno, it doesn't seem that good unless you're playing a tonne of versatile %
dragonscale has a tonne of uptime
pliant bane
Whats your guys ideal essence in m+?
amber siren
i wouldnt use jar, our aoe dps is already pretty good, mech trinket with the single target slot i forget the name of is pretty handy
slender veldt
K, thanks guys
cosmic coral
would u guys recomend spider or blob for last boss UR?
warm plinth
I guess it kinda depends on your comp and if you have good communication
amber siren
blob
warm plinth
Like the problem with spider is that you have to move a lot on that fight
And chances are you don't have multiple ranged kicks (and if you do, that means casts are going off)
amber siren
outside of the mechanics of the last boss, actually getting to the blob obelisk means killing trash you can't chain together since they'll need kicks rotating (deathspeaker, worm and the faceless dude)
it's a big time loss
warm plinth
Yep, that's why we ended up doing fear guy with the boss because it saves significant time skipping that last obelisk
sick sentinel
Most people do interrupt boio in high keys as fear can one shot people
And slime can fuck people
But thats high keys
Lower probably better to do fear
cosmic coral
gonna do a 20, whats your recomendation?
sick sentinel
Still fear probably
Doing the defiler and worm
Is really bad in pugs
It gets fucked easily
cosmic coral
doing it with guildies
patent falcon
Hey Im new as War (prot)
What is stats to focus boys ?
sick sentinel
Ilvl > haste> vers=crit
cosmic coral
bom=bastion of might azerite trait
pliant bane
how are you meant to tank the last boss in underrot
i have no idea how vile explusion works and im not tanking it properly at all
rocky garnet
You get everyone to stack on you, he cums, you move him away and then go to edge of cum
Repeat
pliant bane
so you always get hit by the explusion ?
rocky garnet
You being between the shit on the ground and the boss
No you move as he’s casting it
rocky garnet
So if everyone’s stacked, once he’s targeted a person and he’s casting it, you start moving and you won’t get hit
amber siren
if you move too early, or he's too close to a wall that he's facing, it will splash back into the room
rocky garnet
Also true
amber siren
just face him backwards, everyone stack, he starts to vomit, you move forward and stack close to the new puddle
rocky garnet
The key is to get everyone to stack and then it won’t get that hairy
And they didn’t patch the healing off orbs like they said they did, so added plus for prot wars
(Victory rush)
amber siren
it is quaking this week so it doesn't need to be a tight stack, just as long as everyone is baiting his vomit backwards and not into the path you're rotating the boss
quaint yoke
how impactful is the block stat on shields?
amber siren
very
warm plinth
Incredibly so
quaint yoke
guessing it affects block amount then?
amber siren
sure does
quaint yoke
so i guess 10 ilvl wins over a socket all the time then
quaint yoke
yeah i was wondering if it's semi-equal i'd keep the socket
but in this case i'm gonna switch to the higher ilvl
amber siren
quaint yoke
because i could've prioritised adding sockets on other gear first
amber siren
true, usually you'd add sockets to gear you're guaranteed to have 100% or near 100% uptime with
so weapons make a good choice for that
quaint yoke
how much block stat is 1% block reduced damage?
warm plinth
Depends on the content. But going from like a 465 shield to a 475 shield is like 3% reduced damage from blockable things in M+
Double that for crit blocks
quaint yoke
that's pretty huge
warm plinth
Yeah especially considering we crit block a lot during Avatar with BoM
sick sentinel
I’m guessing the shield is also a good place to eventually stick the TD3 enchant when it’s sold
warm plinth
Assuming you have a 475, yeah
sick sentinel
Yeah. 475 mecha, but still
maiden lake
Hello protheads.. may i ask how do we solo storm ele in sots? Reflect every alternate cast but when its down what are we supposed to do?
main vault
you have the healer in range but not aggro
next stone
I saved up 20k residuum to buy azerite. The one im planning to buy would put me at 3 Overwhelming Powers. Is that still alright or redundant
main vault
haste is never redundant
sick sentinel
A shield isn't a good spot for me sadly
I have 3 475s lol
That i switch between
Weapon i can put it on tho
475 socketed
left hatch
dawn jasper
I know, i was trying to make a joke at my expense. Seems it worked even better than I intended
sick sentinel
You werent joking
hushed cobalt
for shoulders and m+, all 480s, my HAC sim is skitra ones > kraken > tank busters (or in azerite terms, HoD > MS > CW); that looks about right, right?
modern brook
sick sentinel
Any tips for putting groups together in general?
i've always been really meh at selecting great players for my runs
or following what 1 class can offer buff/debuff like i heard DH has +magic intake debuff or something, so take lock ele mage that type of thing.
icy harness
dh rogue mage is the fotm choice
but you want an aoe clear, you want some cc and utility and then you want a ranged in each group
sick sentinel
shadow priest is nice some times too
inland silo
DH is still very good
but at that range you also mostly want to filter by server and raider.io
since anything will work
sick sentinel
by server?
inland silo
are you NA or EU
sick sentinel
NA NYC time
is it one of those things that if i get grouped with west coast it creates lag?
stiff oracle
shadow priest is nice some times too
@sick sentinel you take that back right now. Think about all the poor priest players in here you just gave a shimmer of hope, only to log on to face reality again.
still pagoda
so... My armory got updated
now it's only rio that's left
hope that my statistics won't be gone in on poof
stiff oracle
Hopefully ill have time to play some today
Get some more 20s done
Also, @still pagoda welcome to kazzak. May your tradechat be forever unreadable
warm plinth
tfw you are spamming the everliving shit out of your cloak keybind in a dungeon to clear eye of corruption after 20 stacks and then you remember you don't actually have the cloak level for the removal 😂
stiff oracle
still pagoda
Also, @still pagoda welcome to kazzak. May your tradechat be forever unreadable
@stiff oracle It was barely readable on Gordunni
thank you anyway
placid oar
🔥👍🏻💪🏻
stiff oracle
sharp rover
How much corruption do you guys run?
I ran 55 in FH 15 and ~43% of my damage taken on the Harlan fight was corruption related
sick sentinel
Wtf how
still pagoda
TFB
placid oar
I run below 40 as a new tank
sharp rover
A little bad luck
sharp rover
Can you reflect TFB?
sharp rover
w h a t
For the 25% magic damage reduction, or does it actually reflect all of the damage?
That's completely hecked if it reflects the entire TFB
sick sentinel
And you can storm bolt it
And shockwave
I have gone entire runs without getting hit once
sick sentinel
Just dont play over 40 and u wont be worrying about it ezpz
sick sentinel
Or just dont do it xd
stiff oracle
I dont, but theres plenty of reasons to not get hit by it
sharp rover
I just want to clarify that I'm pretty overgeared for a 15 so I'm taking disproportionately low physical damage too
sick sentinel
But youre exhausting valueable cds, effort, globals and possible bad rng deaths costing keys
stiff oracle
Definitely, which is why I dont do it
sick sentinel
But having to use reflect on tfb instead of something actually useful
Another reason
ionic fern
Up to the person themselves to decide if they want to run above 40 or not. 🤷
I don't mind TFB - think i've died to it like..2-3 times total since the start.
More often than not you have room to kite and/or SR ready for it.
sick sentinel
And its not tfb that actually matter
Its the slow
The slow kills people
You are basically hard rooted
At the worst timea
sick sentinel
From a high key standpoint a 40/50% slow still can kill u
And rng deaths
Are not fun
ionic fern
Run w/e you are more comfortable with. 🤷
still pagoda
riiiiiight
@mortal brook https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148897941883584512/715661449514451044/unknown.png
What was that website?
i just need it for one dispute that may heat up right now(i was literally called a streamer simp in my former guild's discord, so i just want to remind them of faction statistics beyond wowprogress)
stiff oracle
😂
amber siren
are they arguing about faction imbalance? afaik the only region that's alliance dominant is oceanic
like with NA or EU, if you want to raid seriously you go horde unless you're really adamant on alliance for some reason and you have to go guild/server shopping
still pagoda
wicked orchid
So, as a prot warrior should I worry about how much crit I have? And if so about how much do I want?
amber siren
crit is a good stat to have but there's no soft or hard caps for crit, or any of our stats
just follow the priority system
wicked orchid
What I've been doing is neglecting crit and trying to get haste since I barely had any, but It's gotten to the point that I only have 12% crit and 35% haste
And I'll be sure to check out the stat priority, I just wanted to make sure that I've been totally messing up my stat amounts and crit was pretty good or something like that
amber siren
if your highest ilvl gear (outside of rings and trinkets) gave you like 60% haste and 4% crit, then that's still fine, all stats are good for us
orchid frigate
ugh that witch in the pack to the left of the triad just deleted me on a +17
didnt even have time to react before i was dead
amber siren
as you start getting more pieces you can mix and match a little more, i.e. crit gains value for DPS or in m+ crit is better than vers or mastery since parry gains more value the more mobs that are hitting you
wicked orchid
Ah ok, makes sense I'll keep that in mind, thanks!
still pagoda
"Statistics are irrelevant"
🤣
"Faction imbalance is made by people like you!"
and other pearls from this shitty dispute
got kicked out of their discord
just for trying to adequately explain the problem of faction imbalance and why it exists
brittle owl
it's not lazel flaming like an autist in /1 in raids bad
still pagoda
[кровожадность] ануса
brittle owl
spamming anal [insert funny link to achiev/item here]
like that happens everywhere
ever since vanilla
og item to spam was thunderfuru/kang the decapitator
still pagoda
people here spam [insert item/ability/achive] ануса on RU
still pagoda
in general
brittle owl
😂
still pagoda
ofc it doesn't
just like all the problems with shitty pugs
like
i switched over to Horde because playing ally became miserable due to amount of people
amber siren
anal [for the children] every tuesday reset
still pagoda
from ghost town to lovely mud hats
amber siren
still pagoda
ionic fern
I like it.
I literally know everyone who ques for 20+ keys. 😂
still pagoda
^
ionic fern
Since there's so few people doing them on alliance side.
still pagoda
Gordunni-EU/ally M+ in a nutshell
brittle owl
resync your blizz acc after you do a few runs and it shows on blizz's leaderboard
still pagoda
the problem is a bit different. https://raider.io/characters/eu/kazzak/Memphetide
I resynced after warr showed up in armory. Warcraftlogs caught up immediately, while rio started to drop key logs onto new page and YEETed out old one
not a problem since i can just time all 17's and 18's with my own key
and i hope it will show gear and other stuff from armory soon
brittle owl
you serv transf+faction change+namechange
still pagoda
yes
brittle owl
prob why it's fucky
still pagoda
name change came with server transfer
brittle owl
rio scrubber is kinda janky as is
still pagoda
so i don't think it's a problem
still pagoda
you can't
brittle owl
that's why then
brittle owl
at least, my hunch
still pagoda
brittle owl
wcl doesnt use blizz api
brittle owl
yep
rio scrubs directly from blizz leaderboard, so it prob can't make the association simply due to the naming conventions and rules
brittle owl
yeah it's just small talk 
still pagoda
i've already timed +18WS, #1SECONDDEPLETE +18AD and 2 +16's
strong forum
Big gamer
still pagoda
honestly
i was not able to really push 18's before yesterday's stuff
amount of good people on ally plummeted to the point of barely seeing any 2.2-2.3k+ rio guys when assembling group
and only ~2 +18 groups in lfg
hasty quest
Guys, a question a bit out of this channel, I struggle a lot timing AD 19-20, do you have any route suggestion for this dung?
brittle owl
standard routes work just fine in 19-20 🤷♂️
it's more about execution of class than anything really
what route are you doing?
still pagoda
you may try doing it like this. Technically it's the same standard route as what most people do here, but without double honor guard packs
brittle owl
do you not do shieldbearers? 🤔
still pagoda
i do them
just different colour]
that was an accident due to me restructuring pulls
and i've placed them into the pull with last boss
redrawn it rn
overpull is present due to rng of G2
smoky wave
Can you get the ob by the grass without pulling the pack there?,
compact dock
is warrior best tank for mythic + in shadowlands 2nd big patch?
amber siren
nah you'd have to do a skip for the grass obelisk
still pagoda
Can you get the ob by the grass without pulling the pack there?,
@smoky wave
pull it away with hunter, mage or rogue
i did it yesterday in +18
smoky wave
Ah right, ok, I've been putting to the grass and taking that pack. AD is one of those I struggle to time on still (plebbing at 15s atm)
marble cipher
Double honorguard on fort is just a big no, so it's way better to have some sort of skip to activate that pillar
still pagoda
^
just as doing spider obelisk with last boss is a big no
so just find a hunter who is not dumb
#1seconddeplete
never ever again i will take people from Свежеватель Душ
it is just like Черный Шрам, but for RU horde
marble cipher
Looking at your route @still pagoda , considering the mage pulls-invis-skips the packs, does he then stay in invis and join you using the previously dropped exit portal on the right side next to the pack he aggro's?
still pagoda
yes
he joins
i specifically drop exit portal on the rooftop
so that it's easy for hunt to get back to group and later on drop down to stairway packs
marble cipher
and if it's a hunter, without camouflage, is there enough room to walk without aggroing any of the honorguard packs (left bottom, and volkaal stairs) for him?
Cause he needs to pull the pack onto the grass to feign there
amber siren
there's enough room to get around
marble cipher
k
still pagoda
gonna just drop into AD and do a small rundown with markers
ask him to go camo
@marble cipher You just need to drop exit portal on carpets and let your hunter(or mage/rogue) do the job
there's a lot of room to kite this pack away
marble cipher
yeah, I usually drop it there, and the kite works wonders with a rogue.
No rogue this week, so I was just thinking how a hunter (without camo) could walk to the previous exit portal
But I guess camo is just much better to spec into for that
trail dome
@marble cipher you can still get there with feign you just might have to wait on feign CDs
and yeah what karton said, there is a tonne of room by the lake
like loads of space
i think what my hunterino friend usually does is run past, feign once we're in
then run back into volkaal room and feign again
but that's cause we take spire straight to vol usually.
marble cipher
And he just doesn't join in on the mini boss then, but waits at volkaal till the rest is out?
still pagoda
depends on whether he takes camo or not
marble cipher
Yeah, with the double feign I mean
blazing gale
is prot viable on pvp arenas 2v2 ? with something like idk DH or hpal
smoky wave
it's irritating if you have no interest in raids. I've literally got no way to actually catch up 🤷♂️
trail dome
It is frender
if you're 10 weeks behind you wont catch up for 10 weeks
really stupid
trail dome
imo they should just uncap the amount you can get from visions / nzoth until you're current
like who really cares
marble cipher
@still pagoda last question about those trash pack skips, when the entry and exit portals are set as they are in your route, how does the hunter/rogue/mage get into the realm for the very last skip (middle pillar towards yazma)?
Cause there's no easy/fast spot where he can go into a previous exit portal, since the closest one is at volkaal (carpet) and he can't pull the middle mobs that way to feign death them since that would put the entire group in combat (as you're all standing there at that point, I think)
marble cipher
k, what I thought
cause with camo he can pull middle away from us, we enter, he camo's and walks to carpet to go into realm, and will probably join on mini boss by the time we pulled it to yazma
still pagoda
same for mage
and rogue
even better if he joins through first obelisk
since he won't need another use of invis to get to it unlike with carpet
smoky wave
levelling a mage atm for some dps fun. Doing stuff like that is going to be interesting!
marble cipher
true, he can run that way for pulling the middle pack away, it's not that close but there's no more mobs there
marble cipher
or if the run would take longer then 5 seconds, he can just pull the middle pack away, die, release at start of dungeon and then go for one of those pillars I guess
"he" being anyone then really, cause dying is something everyone can do 😄
trail dome
So, I'm used to being a healer
meaning i don't need to know any of this dumb shit
I was just doing WCM on my warrior and got absolutely ruined by some mobs with high soul fetish stacks
is there anything beyond belf racial I can really do to interact with that
or am I just relying on my dps to not be stupid.
trail dome
I did kick ;_;
amber siren
arcane torrent will only remove one stack if the cast goes off, so it's important to lock it down before it is applied
marble cipher
also, no need to kick soul fetish if the witch is the only mob left, as it won't be able to be cast on something (since he's alone)
trail dome
oh that's good to know
my group was kinda blasting so i just pulled like everything downstairs
it was a bit fiesta
ended up on matron
got hit by her thing for like my hp bar
you know how it goes
👀
marble cipher
since he's the only one left, who cares where the stacks would go when he dies 😉
but if still in a pack, yeah, interrupt it
I mean, technically I guess you can also just leave the witch till he's the last one alive, if it's a full pack with only one witch
Ending up on matron is a big yikes though haha
marble cipher
junk 18 should be fine, if everyone gets bots asap
trail dome
my friends & I are hoping to get a bunch of 20s done over the weekend, considering 3 of us rerolled to more meta classes.
so JY18 should be an easy 20
marble cipher
should
trail dome
👀
marble cipher
I usually think that when I start my keys, and then something goes horribly wrong 😄
still pagoda
my ToS17 should be an easy 19 again
trail dome
It's kinda funny though. We had someone rr to rogue, someone rr to mage and me rr to prot warr.
marble cipher
Did an 18 UR last night, should've been an ok +1 chest, but nooooo, people couldn't cope with last boss "stack 'n move" tactic, especially not with blob mini boss on him too
still pagoda
👀
trail dome
And we try do same pulls we did on mains and do really silly stuff.
Good learning experience tho
hasty quest
Sorry for delay but i am at work, anyhow: We go left and BL on double pack focusing Augur casts and Shadowmend.
Than run with slime and big pull in front of the boss. We go down and we clean the bridge, jumping down to rezan and come up on 2 saurid packs.
Than we go right, Lust on pull with guards, shield breaker etc, pull obelisk pack and than go to Volkan.
We exit with hunter or mage or Rogue and we go to the bridge, crear it and have hubnter or orgue distract the mid pack so we can go with the miniboss to yazma, we fight her with the spider and lust.
marble cipher
doing spider on boss is an option too, is the top left one the spider this week (the one with double honorguards)?
rocky garnet
Do we want anything from the vendor this rotation?
still pagoda
no
technically you can get racing pulse if you don't have anything else
but i would wait for TD instead
@brittle owl https://raider.io/characters/eu/kazzak/Memphetide
Just as you said. RIP 2k rio, but it was worth it :D
I still have my +17 key that is easily timeable
building up 2.5k will be easy
trail dome
kazzak 🙁
still pagoda
...you won't have /1 spammed into oblivion
still pagoda
i separated /1 and /2 into other channels
how come naowh is playing full 🦀
@trail dome WF keys require WF solutions
strong forum
He thinks he has to play full turtle
strong forum
It's not needed needed I would say, but it helps with consistency
But im also not sure if it's worth either
still pagoda
TD4+Exp2
trail dome
still pagoda
that's enough for now
strong forum
Yes we know that nerf and fem have done higher keys without full vers
trail dome
just picking an example at random basically
strong forum
Hence why I'm not sold on selling out on full vers
For monks and bears sure
But warri idk
trail dome
also if you're doing that surely surging is value too.
still pagoda
for monks it's almost mandatory
strong forum
Yes you want 1x surging vita
And go above 40
With that
It makes it so much better
If you're running 50%+ vers, then the 800 versa proc is insane value
trail dome
he's also cns major which i've seen a lot in high keys lately & i like it a lot
but i don't think it's pug safe
sweet summit
🦀
strong forum
Depends on the key, but cns and lucid are essences you run on the highest of keys
still pagoda
or for fun
strong forum
Or that
still pagoda
been experimenting with lucid in 18's yesterday
trail dome
what's wrong with mage & rogue for cns
still pagoda
feels good to be able to plan pulls around bursts not just for the group
what's wrong with mage & rogue for cns
sloooooooooooooows
trail dome
still pagoda
everything lower than +17 is not CnS-friendly due to frost being popular spec in there
trail dome
Idk, my main worry about cns is that people don't know which mobs will kill you if you stand on top of them while they get rooted
still pagoda
strong forum
Well, that only happens if you yourself as tank are too far out of range
And even then I've had 0 issues with that ever
Cuz more often than not you use the root to cancel some mechanics here and there
Instead of kiting
still pagoda
^
sweet summit
haha yeah imagine playing with an assa rogue 🙃
strong forum
More like +22
strong forum
Perfect niche
trail dome
does rsham still have that thing
that increases max hp?
so we bring rsham spriest
and everyone plays TD5
on teeming
Its genius
trail dome
apt is the res isn't it
sweet summit
it is
sweet summit
uhhh thats new to me
hazy lake
how to make reflect to be shown in details?
sweet summit
it is shown by default @hazy lake
trail dome
neither of those are as good as 10% TD damage on 5 people
sweet summit
do shamans count as tanks if they use earth ele? 
still pagoda
earth ele
sweet summit
ahh
still pagoda
fear smallies are done by me just ramming in and using belf purge
sweet summit
still pagoda
before moving over to horde i was just ramming in with fear immune
sweet summit
i have to say i miss being a dwarf just because of the racial
still pagoda
just bring hunter or sham
still pagoda
i played draenei and only draenei before
trail dome
That was my last kr
sweet summit
MonkaW
still pagoda
Being a 3k rdruid and not knowing to soothe zul on raging
Seen so many of such before
strong forum
Many such cases!
trail dome
unironically
rdruid i think is the easiest class to get carried to rio on
you can play no feral and just dot everything & heal
sweet summit
excuse me
trail dome
i mean
still pagoda
👀
trail dome
i have an rdruid too
still pagoda
^
still pagoda
Shift-R
still pagoda
at least that's where my spellsteal was
20k Echoes
and i already have TD4
gonna just dump it into expedients for arms
trail dome
that said i rerolled off healer because while it's really easy to carry
still pagoda
or not...
trail dome
it's beyond frustrating to be in a bad group & basically not be able to do anything
sweet summit
just throw them some hots and go cat
still pagoda
and this abomination
i can stack Surging5
gonna leave those 3 pieces
maybe some day
still pagoda
and what?
spice lotus
Do y'all have tips for berserkers in KR? I feel like around the +16 mark, I just fall over if they get 2 stacks on me.
sweet summit
dont stand near them when they want to put up a bleed
make a pet/another dps soak it
spice lotus
oh, interesting, so you could like have a hunter pet on it, kite, and it'll bleed the pet?
sweet summit
yeah
spice lotus
that's a cool strat. TY TY!
Do you want to keep at 0 stacks, or just maintain 1 stack?
sweet summit
you can safely take one stack
but two and three and you might just fall over unless god healer
spice lotus
ok, cool. Thanks again!
unkempt latch
If youve got no1 to soak it for you, you have to delay their other cast for like 3 sec I think, meaning you can stun them when they wanna jump out because after that comes the cast, and then you can safely take the new one because the last one falls off.
Or just dont go near them when you got one, let random other dps take it 😅
smoky wave
@trail dome what was the crab mystery?
peak umbra
Ok guys, what is the play on prot with corruption? I see a lot of prots running 5x r3 vera + IT
amber siren
what key level are you running?
trail dome
@smoky wave why is naowh playing full vers on a 25
because he was practicing for a 27
:)
still pagoda
^
and technically rio drops last scan info onto the key log
so it may render his stuff for 27 despite him not running it in 25
i didn't run formless in any of keys yesterday
and it logged it instead of Lucid and sphere
trail dome
nah i was watching his stream
it's what he had on
guess he just wanted to get a feel for the gearset.
he did say after tho that he wants to run TD in the 27, they missed the timer by about 30s-1m if they played properly
but isn't sure if he can live the giga big pull without vers
broken cedar
fairly new to warrior. Am i misunderstanding the basics? Essentially preserve rage for IP and SB uptime while thunder clapping and demo with avatar and then slam and revenge when proc?
trail dome
demo on CD
sweet summit
we dont have slam :(
still pagoda
effective SB uptime
trail dome
i guess he means shield slam
still pagoda
IP is literally a rage dump
stiff oracle
fairly sure he means shield slam,..
sweet summit
ah, ss on CD
still pagoda
SS on CD, TC on CD
trail dome
basically you press your buttons on CD most of the time
still pagoda
EVERYTHING ON CD
trail dome
Your general rotato will look like
SB > SB > SB> LS > SB > SB >SB > external > SB > LS > SB > SB> SB
for AM
but the caveat is
any time you're not actively tanking / can kite
you can regen SB charges
still pagoda
eh. Looking for guild never was so easy in terms of choice
broken cedar
i meant shield slam sorry
sweet summit
excuse you?
trail dome
So take for example rezan
trail dome
that's a great thing
TC > SS for dmg on aoe though
TC > else for aoe dmg
if you think to yourself
broken cedar
so IP is low prio?
trail dome
i need 15 rage to get shield block up
still pagoda
IP is basically a rage dump
trail dome
but i'm tanking 15 mobs
and TC does more for my overall
and you press TC
It may be wrong
but know that I respect the shit out of you.
sweet summit
30 rage for SB*
trail dome
what?
still pagoda
no low rage SB
sweet summit
oh
still pagoda
wowprogress LFG up, forum thread up
it's time to be the most annoying person looking for guild
sweet summit
growl 😍
trail dome
I fucking love growl.
sweet summit
same
trail dome
I'm actually thinking about starting a wow content series based on the experiences of a returning player
trying to climb rio
trail dome
and i'd like to interview growl.
still pagoda
you should have pinged me month and a half ago
if so
i was literally the returning PvE crab
trail dome
@broken cedar but yeah basically that image from nomeratur
This thing
that's like the whole spec.
still pagoda
not the whole
sweet summit
when do i play ravager
still pagoda
one fuck up - one death
strong forum
Big guide man here ama
broken cedar
thank you
still pagoda
when do i play ravager
@sweet summit
In 7.2.5
trail dome
@sweet summit you need to get your leech cap first
sweet summit
its ok, i spent 30k echoes on leech corruption so i should be good
trail dome
Btw I really enjoyed that you took "He likes leech" as a serious insult
strong forum
If you spend enough time in here you will treat it as such
sweet summit
trail dome
I need to convince my group to let me get in cannons in TD
I was just doing a TD and absolutely blasting
strong forum
Honestly, it could be a good corruption, if 1% would be like 2 corruption instead of 5.3
trail dome
140k dps on trash before sand queen, 95k before jessica
then cannons & obelisks destroyed my overall.
sweet summit
who is jessica?
trail dome
My guess is some dude saw how much healers value leech at
and saw that
@sweet summit jes howlis
sweet summit
ahhhh
trail dome
and was like hm healers think this stat is twice as good as their best secondary
sweet summit
sorry i am not very smart
sick sentinel
Hey man, that 8% leech can get you out of some shit
strong forum
sweet summit
like..?
trail dome
sweet summit
pumpers
trail dome
that's pretty pog
strong forum
No cannons
strong forum
No I mean I didn't do cannons
trail dome
oh
sweet summit
trail dome
i see what you mean sorry
in pugs there's 0 way i'm going out to do dps during cannons
strong forum
Not like we can do cannons properly anyway 
strong forum
But hey, check out this clip real quick
sweet summit
we did the first two canons perfectly, but hard inted 3rd canon yesterday xD
trail dome
The DH only did like 10m more than me overall if I take out his cannon dmg.
oof
As you can see that pug had no rogue
strong forum
Nvm it's a video not a clip
trail dome
so it was kinda scuffed as shit
strong forum
Don't wanna upload that
strong forum
Na it's directly in discord
trail dome
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
i've been trying to record myself playing keys to watch later and see what i could have done better
strong forum
So basically after Jessica, there's a bomb and a sniper behind the wall outside oft he dungeon
That can be aggrod
But they don't have nameplates
Or any path
trail dome
is that the ones that get pulled by uh
sweet summit
ahahaha yeah i feel
sweet summit
torment and TD afaik
strong forum
They're literally invisible
strong forum
And that bomb outside the dungeon where there's no path no nothing
Blew up in 0.1 seconds
And wiped us on the stairway after jes
trail dome
nice
i've also been melee'd to death by crocodiles from downstairs
that got pulled by torment
strong forum
Very good. Mobs that don't exist and bombs that don't exist blow up
trail dome
as in, through the floor
pulled by torment, get healer aggro (was on my druid i think)
sweet summit
delete tol dagor
trail dome
maybe pala
honestly yes
i'm gonna do it at a 20 on warr
then never going back
idc how good it is for timing
i fucking hate it
sweet summit
we have one 21 TD and one 22 TD that we sill have to do this week 🙂 🙂 🙂
trail dome
I'm sorry.
oh
so i've never had this happen before
but i had tank buster snap to me 6(!) times in the tunnel
first one i walked over a kind of weird lump
and he snapped
then every time i left melee range he would snap to me
6 times in a row
sweet summit
tank buster hit me through the floor :(
trail dome
anyone ever had that?
christ
actually such a fucking awful dungeon
also, don't do teeming tol dagor without a rogue
sweet summit
na
strong forum
Tank buster doesn't care about los
As long as you're in range, he will do his stuff
still pagoda
^
strong forum
Even on Z axis
still pagoda
just outrange it
trail dome
does dark fury have a Z axis
strong forum
Darkfury does have that yes
trail dome
oh but it needs los?
strong forum
No you cant los anymore rosjen
trail dome
oh
sweet summit
you can LoS dark fury
trail dome
so if he's say the floor below you
strong forum
Ah dark fury
strong forum
Ye but spirit breaker goes through dimensions as long as you're in range
Where was he when guldan escaped in wod
sweet summit
chilling with nzoth in nyalotha
sharp rover
What trinkets are currently the best for prot in m+?
still pagoda
double haste procs
trail dome
scale & vita prolly
sweet summit
vita+scale/rezan/LPS/block
still pagoda
goreblock+any
sharp rover
Even with no expedient?
trail dome
do you guys have any good advice for spbreaker in dungeons where you get where you're going very quickly, or don't have much room to kite?
yeah haste still our bis stat
sharp rover
Scale > Rezan at the same ilvl?
sweet summit
eh, rezan=scale at equal ilvl. simmable tho
trail dome
i'd pref scale i think cause the uptime is so high
brittle owl
expedient has nothing to do with trinkets
trail dome
big consistency
strong forum
Ye but wings
trail dome
i also love having slow wall
sweet summit
this man gets it
trail dome
fall*
sharp rover
I think the movement speed buff is the decider personally
brittle owl
ez
trail dome
@ionic fern these ppl are attacking us
brittle owl
play paladin, smack bitches 
strong forum
I thought you were gonna say vdh
sweet summit
i can get behind vdh, but paladin... yuck
strong forum
Exactly
brittle owl
no u
trail dome
prot is really fun tbh
brittle owl
all of you
strong forum
That what I did in KR this week
trail dome
paladin
brittle owl
prot paladin bis prot
trail dome
i hope prot paladin is good in Slands
sweet summit
blasphemy
trail dome
BDK & Pal are my favourite tanks don't @ me
trail dome
YE IT IS