Upside of that with a shield is that you can purely pick a corruption that's good for prot since you don't use the shield on arms anyway
#protection
warm plinth
amber siren
then yeah just cleanse it then
slow bay
Bis lists don't exist in a world of rng gearing and corruptions, even if you can buy them right now
@strong forum funny cuz they litterally do exist
amber siren
?
amber siren
if one exists for prot i would definitely be interested in seeing it @slow bay because i can guarantee a full list doesn't
slow bay
just nobody has put effort into making one
warlock and mage so far have it
i have not checked any other classes yet
inland silo
Half the mage bis list says “equip highest ilvl in this slot”
slow bay
ok, and tanks have variables liek raid and m+, so you jsut seperate it
not hard
really not hard
still pagoda
"BiS" lists exist
calm magnet
Which is better?
Vita + sigil of warding or humming +sigil?
still pagoda
but they're useless rn
slow bay
just laziness, sorry to say it lol
amber siren
if it's not hard you're welcome to do it instead of calling us the rest of us lazy
still pagoda
Which is better?
Vita + sigil of warding or humming +sigil?
@calm magnet
Vita + humming
slow bay
i know nothing about warrior
i come here for info
and itsn ot here
so im disappointed
calm magnet
Oh wow really?
amber siren
i dont make the rules
still pagoda
Oh wow really?
@calm magnet
Yes
calm magnet
Vita and humming?
still pagoda
yes
vita and humming
i run rezan and humming, but that's because i'm not so lucky on vita for now
both my trinkets are 475 tho
calm magnet
So in what situations should i use sigil of warding? Just got it tonight
amber siren
like imagine coming onto a discord which is a free resource, asking for a list that doesn't exist, and then calling everyone lazy
calm magnet
I thought the soak is good
amber siren
like that's some real karen material
still pagoda
just like most absorb trinkets
shut summit
maut trinket isnt super garbage, just limited uses
like it fully absorbs the 2nd beam of ilgy
just not many situations like that that exist
warm plinth
Niche =/= garbage in most cases :p
calm magnet
Hmm if you think about it, prot has several mitigations
So its kinda useless i guess
shut summit
esp now with the gear available and stuff yea
dire blade
Skitta mythic shoulders have bom and hod on seperate tiers. Wrath weapon once cleansed is best haste/versa weapon in game. Even came with a socket
Skitra
calm magnet
Tho im not uber geared, im still at 467 and 2 weeks into maining a prot
How bout shield?
lean arch
pray for a weekly, buy a 475 boe
amber siren
like your offhand? whatever your highest ilvl shield is
calm magnet
Yeah im currently at 455
still pagoda
455 is sufficient
calm magnet
UR shield 💩
still pagoda
but any shield is good
warm plinth
Yeah, the 475 boe is the best if you want haste/vers, or I believe ML shield is haste/crit if you get lucky enough to get one in your chest. But highest ilevel wins on shield regardless, even if it's the Mechagon one
still pagoda
ilvl is the rule on shields
ML shield is haste crit
but it really doesn't matter
biggest thing on shields is block% and armor(which translates into block value)
warm plinth
BiS lists are a bit more realistic in general at this point due to fixed ilevels and buyable corruption, but there are multiple scenarios to consider and as someone already said it's not super simple to quantify tankiness
calm magnet
If shield block is up, no additional stacks?
still pagoda
stacks always go
still pagoda
^
warm plinth
But not block, since the attack is mitigated, not negated
wicked orchid
Does SR help reduce damage from stacks? This might be a stupid question
warm plinth
It won't mitigate the damage from necrotic, but it will mitigate the damage of the attack that applied necrotic
No, Necrotic is physical now
strong forum
It's a bleed so no
warm plinth
But largely the damage from necrotic is fairly trivial
calm magnet
How about shield wall?
wicked orchid
Ah, ok, it was worth asking
calm magnet
It says all sources
warm plinth
It's the damage you take that can't be healed because of necrotic stacks that is dangerous, not the damage from necrotic itself
strong forum
Only when you're 10% hp and have 60+ stacks
warm plinth
Like I'll facetank with 40 stacks if I'm still sitting pretty at 90% HP
still pagoda
leap away
calm magnet
Like matrons in UR? Or am I wrong
still pagoda
that's it
wicked orchid
I use speed pots also
strong forum
Try to kill it before it kills you, or run for your life
amber siren
leap, intercept, use terrain
calm magnet
Im using conflict major this week since its really really useful
warm plinth
Don't do that
strong forum
Vitality conduit ignores necrotic, so does spirit link
calm magnet
VoP then?
still pagoda
VoP nearly always
strong forum
Vop generally for anything lower than 21
still pagoda
^
calm magnet
Ohh okok
calm magnet
I watched some nerftank videos and I saw he uses CnS on necrotic weeks
still pagoda
MOAR DAMAGE
warm plinth
He's also doing pug viewer keys in those videos
So he's likely just using it in case the healer/rest of the group sucks
still pagoda
i go total nitpicking and get good DPS for my keys usually
stiff oracle
I love playing with CnS major. I guarantee you stopping slimes in JY, charges in AD, etc is gonna save you a few wiped/deaths. It being better than VoP or others is another story.
calm magnet
So when can you say that you are a pretty good tank? I’d like to rate my progress
amber siren
in one of those videos he actually commentates that he shouldn't of taken CnS because there was an assassination rogue in the group which will be breaking his TC root, it's definitely not an instant-lock on necrotic week
still pagoda
^
calm magnet
Yeah i saw that
still pagoda
and most importantly, it is not really a pick on necrotic weeks
warm plinth
I mean, you can avoid/cc slimewave, and you can bait charges to a snap point with a ranged DPS/healer for AD
So
still pagoda
no root breaking slows? BRO, big dps always exists
stiff oracle
That doesnt guarantee my pugs are gonna do it, @warm plinth
still pagoda
TC root is easily breakable
warm plinth
Well that's irrelevant really. Because in the situations he's talking about, it only takes a split second root to stop them
calm magnet
So how do I rate my tanking? I want to gauge if I’ve improved or not
strong forum
Tc root doesn't break, it only doesn't apply if there's a >=30% slow
stiff oracle
^
strong forum
It's a 1sec root
stiff oracle
Only reason I would use CnS is for the utility to stop loads of charges
strong forum
Sphere perfectly breaks cns major
still pagoda
^
stiff oracle
^
strong forum
So never play them together
I very much like cns major in the aforementioned dungeons.
JY and UR. Let's you stop alot of annoying mechanics and save your dps' life every now and again.
It can also stop TFB 
During avatar nothing moves
still pagoda
i run VoP exclusively, but again. I'm stuck in 17's rn
calm magnet
Is it really tough in pugs or do I suck, I’ve done 12,13 and 14 today and all didnt finish
Pepehands
still pagoda
and did you struggle with incoming damage/
mild river
Pug Life doesnt help
still pagoda
?
Pug Life doesnt help
Pug life can be somewhat good if you do your own keys mostly
calm magnet
No, I dont like to blame but
calm magnet
Yeah
still pagoda
12-15 bracket is a literal hell of the game
tame garden
How many vers3 should I buy
calm magnet
I’d like to do some 13 and 14s consistently
still pagoda
well, run your own key
native tangle
anything less than a 15 is a lower key imo
still pagoda
and get picky AF with dps
warm plinth
You can run your own key and be picky af and still get a shit group
tame garden
Hm
calm magnet
Lol yeah
still pagoda
You can run your own key and be picky af and still get a shit group
@warm plinth
Less chance of such still
and a bit more control
warm plinth
Well of course, but there's no way to guarantee success. Sometimes you're just not lucky
calm magnet
I’ve done more damage than a bm hunter today, I’ve only got 2 td 1s
native tangle
Just make sure to take people with 3k IO, then youknow they'll be good
amber siren
even good players make errors in keys
still pagoda
^
native tangle
True, but they are way less likely to
still pagoda
everyone makes errors
calm magnet
So what shows as my tank io?
warm plinth
I've played with 3k players that sucked ass
native tangle
LOL what?
still pagoda
same
native tangle
Then they are trolling
warm plinth
Yeah dude, believe it or not, people get carried to even that high of a rating
still pagoda
i've seen 3k players that were real shit
warm plinth
No, some people just suck
native tangle
you cant really get boosted to 3k without knowing wtf youre doing
warm plinth
That's completely and utterly untrue
native tangle
If it was that easy
calm magnet
Yeah
native tangle
everyone would have 3k
warm plinth
Not everyone has friends willing to carry their ass
calm magnet
I’ve played with 2k players who dont know that the tentacles in sots will slap yo ass so hard
amber siren
every dungeon in time at 15 is around 2.2k, dont need to do 20+ for 3k io
native tangle
2k and 3k are way different
stiff oracle
Just make sure to take people with 3k IO, then youknow they'll be good
@native tangle if only this was even remotely true
warm plinth
You do need to do 20+ for 3k io
native tangle
20's are not even close to easy
stiff oracle
20 JY
warm plinth
Depends on perspective
still pagoda
every dungeon in time at 15 is around 2.2k, dont need to do 20+ for 3k io
@amber siren
2.1k more so. I have nearly all +15's timed(except for UR) and at 1984 rio
amber siren
is it? i thought JY and WS made it possible
warm plinth
All timed 19s is 2832 score assuming base score
native tangle
JY is the exception if you have a good route
amber siren
TIL 
warm plinth
But score doesn't really go up significantly with time
These are my keys and I'm 2930
shut summit
native tangle
Timing a higher key level will always be a larger upgrade then 2 chesting a lower key
still pagoda
Honestly, i really want to bump more
warm plinth
That's not what I meant
still pagoda
this is from yesterday
warm plinth
I meant that you don't really gain significant score by timing a dungeon faster vs just timing it
still pagoda
^
native tangle
That's obvious tho
warm plinth
Base score for a 20 is 259 and my 20 JY which is 5 mins under is only 3 more points
strong forum
Powerful
calm magnet
The bane of my existence is sots
native tangle
Not bad start, if you wanna improve then keep at it
still pagoda
yet to do more, and a lot of keys i did were bricked into oblivion
glossy ore
worth dropping 15 ilvls and honed 3 on my belt for twilight dev 3?
calm magnet
My group always manages to wipe on 2nd boss
glossy ore
how good is TD?
tawny tusk
Do we run IF1 or IF3?
calm magnet
So is a 445 with td3 better than a 460 with td1?
calm magnet
And i also have a 470 belt with td1 which makes it tier 4 td?
strong forum
Sure, go for it
calm magnet
Ohhh I always thought that higher ilvl is better since more stats
warm plinth
As long as it's not a shield or a weapon
Yeah that was before corruption existed
Specifically before TD existed
strong forum
Twilight bypasses laws of ilvl
calm magnet
Yeah TD is the bomb
past berry
Why is TD bad on a shield or weapon?
warm plinth
It's not
calm magnet
Although this game is trolling me, I’ve done 3,4 and 5 masks this week to get more corruptions for prot. All gave me pants
Like wth
warm plinth
But those are the two slots where you wouldn't sacrifice ilevel for it
strong forum
You always wanna wear highest ilvl on Shield and weapon
past berry
Ah ok
tame garden
How much ilvl is vers worth
strong forum
past berry
I have crap luck with those, my shield and weapon are both 460
still pagoda
ZERO until you go for +24-25 keys
calm magnet
Do you stream @strong forum ?
tame garden
I'm trying to figure out how many verse 3 I need for the 1 weekly 15 I run on my warrior pls help
strong forum
Rarely
calm magnet
Maybe I could watch some of your runs to get a better understanding
sick sentinel
What does log mean
warm plinth
You guys
sick sentinel
🏃
tame garden
Hawgz
strong forum
You can watch my vods if you want, if you can stomach some terrible memes
sick sentinel
Hello bear
warm plinth
One of the memes being that you think Nome is a good tank
sick sentinel
Close
calm magnet
Its ayt, I enjoy memes
warm plinth
❤️
strong forum
One of the memes being that you think Nome is a good tank
We're all shit tanks here
warm plinth
Some more than others (like me)
sick sentinel
I just tanked in my vdh having never played the spec
still pagoda
We're all shit tanks here [2]
tame garden
Ye cuz we dont have enough vers
still pagoda
i'm just shittier than others
sick sentinel
That spec is brain dead why doesn’t everyone play it
warm plinth
Hawgz just go do a King's Rest or Motherlode
wicked orchid
@warm plinth That was my line
sick sentinel
You are immortal
warm plinth
And wonder why you're still playing a prot war
strong forum
Cuz you need specific gear for high keys, and dmg + threat issues
But it is immortal
I'm now running td3 + expedient 3 + 2x raden
warm plinth
Imagine not getting decimated by Rixxa or Zul
strong forum
My dh now pumps
sick sentinel
The 390 weapons were a real downer in my 15 UR
calm magnet
Anyways, thanks for the answers guys
glossy ore
I hated VDH until i tried glut spec, way more fun
calm magnet
Night all
strong forum
N8
warm plinth
Later
sick sentinel
Fun is a bit of an overstatement
strong forum
It's fun af
sick sentinel
Pressing two buttons is not fun
strong forum
I love being an unkillable god
sick sentinel
Timing keys because you can’t die
warm plinth
And powerful has some fun aspect to it
sick sentinel
That is fun
sick sentinel
Yeah he is getting geared so I don’t have to think in high magic situations
Not because I can’t on war
still pagoda
Being OP is always fun [2]
sick sentinel
But because I don’t want to
still pagoda
don't mind me nuking whole TD beach with 400k dps
timid vessel
did you guys buy ineffable truth?
mighty gulch
should i stack vers corruptions or just save TD?
amber siren
save for td
mighty gulch
i saw some people going on about stacking vers being the best thing or something
mighty gulch
i just wanna do my weekly 15
tame garden
How dare you
warm plinth
Then you want TD TD TD and more TD
mighty gulch
kk
amber siren
then yeah won't need vers for a 15
mighty gulch
ty
amber siren
@tame garden 
strong forum
Get TD8, 15s are a joke
still pagoda
^
strong forum
Can literally play 100 corruption in them
strong forum
Are you tomo :pog:
lilac minnow
what for mythic raids? (only reached 5 progressing xanesh atm) worth getting the vers% for that?
tame garden
Nope
warm plinth
Speg I might go guardian main
strong forum
Na, at this point you outgear raid
warm plinth
strong forum
You should* outgear raid
tame garden
🐻 👍
strong forum
Going vers is only for if you're not overgearing raid
sick sentinel
in raid if you are not a damage pumping survival sacrificing mongo are you even a mythic raider
dodge 0 mechanics
maintain optimal pump
strong forum
Imagine not getting TD3 from your first vision ever at cloak level 1
warm plinth
Nome
strong forum
warm plinth
Why are you like this
strong forum
Cuz I deserve it
still pagoda
Imagine not getting TD3 from your first vision ever at cloak level 1
@strong forum
strong forum
Clearly
simple rune
What corruption we going then boys? vers amp or TD?
strong forum
@warm plinth you jealous
strong forum
TD all the way volt
simple rune
even for 20+ keys?
sick sentinel
do you like to accidentally pull packs with a rogue beam
strong forum
Yes
sick sentinel
TD
warm plinth
I'm a DH. My BiS corruption is ez
strong forum
Even in 26s people are running minimum of TD3
IT on dh, what
For blade dance or what
warm plinth
Yeah apparently the BiS setup when all is said and done is TD4/IT1/Expedient3
strong forum
Well I got that in the bag, have 475 mechagon combo with socket + expedient 3 and TD1
sick sentinel
ghash what corruption do i want
strong forum
Leech
warm plinth
Which I'm pretty comfortable with but my healer feels differently
sick sentinel
:^)
simple rune
naowh is running IT atm, anyone tested it?
sick sentinel
its meh
strong forum
It is very good
simple rune
gonna get some vers 3 when the vendor swaps then save for dev
got some IT earlier today
warm plinth
Has EU not swapped yet?
still pagoda
45 minutes
simple rune
no 45 mins
warm plinth
Ah
warm plinth
Abuse them how
strong forum
We know what's on the next vendor
sick sentinel
they get to see it first
strong forum
Before needing to decide
sick sentinel
before they buy
strong forum
You have to gamble if you wanna buy expedient now, or wait too see what next vendor has
And we get to see both options
simple rune
I've saved on expedient, i've got a racing pulse 1h which fills it
strong forum
Racing pulse isn't half bad, but expedient is better
still pagoda
Except for WF race
What's wrong?
simple rune
yeah only use it when running heavy vers in raids
warm plinth
Oh, yeah that's true enough
still pagoda
also
warm plinth
Nome is EU btw
still pagoda
i fear Method clearing out auction house next tier
since i'm now a Kazzak-EU player
and they did clear out 3 servers worth of auction
strong forum
Method bought limits tanks, so that's gonna be interesting
still pagoda
well, maybe i will try flipping gold out of this situation
strong forum
They're getting their strongest roster yet I reckon
still pagoda
ye
simple rune
Soooo, rank 3 TD, rank 1 IT, rank 3 vers amp and gem vers?
strong forum
Only gem vers when you're doing 24/25+
still pagoda
WF guilds poaching people from each other is a really fun thing to watch tho
strong forum
Or run a suboptimal setup
It's kinda weird though when you know method is literally buying them
But that's how it goes now
It's a business
simple rune
didn't they just steal lightee
amber siren
my favourite is by far when method eu lost their MDI spot and method then bought another team
simple rune
method i mean
amber siren
tame garden
Buying both tanks is hilarious
simple rune
was naowh at limit before? can't remember
strong forum
For bod
sonic rock
Is there any explanation to why does top warcraftlogs people run crucible of flames as major or are they just too well-geared to care?
sonic rock
CoF > Vision?
tame garden
Raids are a meme go full dam
amber siren
highest ST damage essence
still pagoda
Bod and EP he was limit
@strong forum
Changing regions like gloves
strong forum
Ye.
sonic rock
so just weave it in between?
strong forum
You just use it on CD
Not very hard, but easy 5k+ dps gain
However if you aren't the best at playing your class it's not advised to run max dmg
still pagoda
^
strong forum
But the biggest survival gain in any situation is playing properly.
So Cof Major is what the good tanks run
In raid
inland mesa
So now that we can perfect world set up corruption, what's the play? I've seen the full 6 vers and verse proc to help with keys. Seems reliably parsing too from WCL. Is that worth the grind?
What's the max damage setup as I'm already sitting at TD 5
still pagoda
^
inland mesa
Then what CoF major, lucid, CS, the new one with stats and corruption, then stack haste gems and wrathion trinket and vita?
still pagoda
you can run like this
strong forum
Cof major
Vop/cns/void minor
still pagoda
sphere is basically free ~400 haste
strong forum
Ye but it's not gonna beat vop minor
still pagoda
ofc
inland mesa
Devastator on everything but hivemind and vex adds?
glossy ore
took my TD3 to a vison, holy shit guys, I had no idea
glossy ore
1shotting packs
sweet summit
TD OWNS
inland mesa
There are a log of full vers parses too now, it's just consistency if you don't get TO to proc
mighty gulch
tfw ive yet to get a single TD on any piece of gear during 8.3
inland mesa
Is it just full haste gems or do people sim and play between haste and crit
strong forum
Whatever sim tells you
Vers makes your Cof hit harder
So. Idk
Whatever sim tells you, go with that
I'm not smarter than the sim
amber siren
quick napkin maf
strong forum
Only @ionic fern is :hehe:
amber siren
simple rune
Need more haste I think pog
strong forum
Ye 19 is nothing
simple rune
and good azerite
amber siren
im gonna reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
strong forum
And get rid of those sporepods
inland mesa
I'm the n'zoth ring away from max gear so figured I may be able to actually play to parse soon.
But then tried without shell and first eye beam on carapace they didnt heal me through it :(
simple rune
sporepods only for M+ xD
strong forum
It's dog
simple rune
haven't got the maut or nzoth trink yet
sweet summit
if take filthy transfusion over BS, if its the head i think it is
sweet summit
maut trinket bad
strong forum
Just equip vita or rezans
sweet summit
strong forum
Also enchant force multiplier
strong forum
Go with butchers then
amber siren
butchers and vial are good
strong forum
It's a good trinket
simple rune
why force multi? thought it sucked
sweet summit
it owns
strong forum
force mult is the best enchant for dps
simple rune
I have no idea what I'm looking at there
sick sentinel
same
sweet summit
ill try to explain then
exotic spoke
Sup qtpies
sweet summit
lets say you have more crit than haste baseline, and force multi procs; giving you str and crit
strong forum
:waveboye1:
exotic spoke
:roopeek:
sweet summit
then you get an overwhelming power/rezan/scale/vita (any haste thing) proc, and now haste is your highest stat
and force multi procs again
you have force multi crit+haste+str up at the same time
simple rune
Oh I’m with you
strong forum
force mult can have multiple instances of its proc active
sweet summit
yes
strong forum
it has very high uptime on good amount of mainstat + secondary
sweet summit
also, with BoM you can get even more mastery inside avatar
tame garden
:roopeek:
simple rune
I’ll only run butchers block on a TD build though I think
strong forum
i would kindly disagree
amber siren
crit has better defensive value in M+ and parry increases in value with more targets
sweet summit
scale+block is great in any content, for any "build"
strong forum
literally get rid of sporepods, the RNG nature of it isnt favourable, it procs when you dont need the heal, and then doesnt proc when you could need it
it does a metric ton of overhealing
wasting procs
ionic fern
ionic fern
Hello.
exotic spoke
Im sorry I abandoned you. I've been busy 😦
still pagoda
hi there
warm plinth
Who is Riki
warm plinth
Anyone know who that is?
tame garden
Riki is mwahis ferret
strong forum
riki is a gnome
sweet summit
how many pets does mwahi have smh
ionic fern
A lot.
tame garden
RIP Lincoln
ionic fern
You been to the zoo?
That place ain't got nothing vs my pets.
sweet summit
o dam
ionic fern
I actually got pinged. The answer to "Is x better for me than Y?" is...sim yourself.
👍
strong forum
yes
ionic fern
What on earth
warm plinth
VULPERA BIS
sweet summit
what the shit
ionic fern
tame garden
90% vers but I still die to necrotic :( this game is shit
tame garden
:(((((
tame garden
😭
ionic fern
T D.
amber siren
ionic fern
strong forum
ionic fern
lean arch
f
ionic fern
So close.
tame garden
It was a mistake
ionic fern
And that's only TD3
strong forum
tame garden
Do you think blizzard would refund me if I open a ticket
strong forum
are you even trying mwahi
strong forum
unluck
sweet summit
get more then hello??
pastel sleet
I just did a 15 ML for the first time last night. How do you survive the trixxi fight?
warm plinth
Spell reflect every other chemical burn
amber siren
spam IP, use cds
exotic spoke
communicate with your healer on CDs
amber siren
reflect burn
lime lance
^
exotic spoke
dont overlap them
sweet summit
dont die
simple rune
lucid and spam IP lmao
warm plinth
While wondering how VDH doesn't take damage on that fight
amber siren
@sweet summit
simple rune
and then reflect the burn when you can
strong forum
lucid on 15 is overkill
sweet summit
pastel sleet
😦 that’s what I did
strong forum
do it better then
simple rune
not on tyrannical
pastel sleet
It absolutely melt
strong forum
if i can do it on 21 with an Rsham healer, you can do it on 15
simple rune
keep demo shout up for when you can't reflect a burn also
aren't her autos magic and not melee also? so SB is worthless?
sweet summit
yep
sweet summit
more SS dam tho
strong forum
same as the last boss
simple rune
yeah just dump everything into IP then
pastel sleet
Alright. Thanks for the tips
simple rune
been in this discord an hour and learnt like 15 things pog
strong forum
👍
amber siren
big warrior brain
sweet summit
simple rune
so i'm changing vers gems for haste? seeing as dev is the go to build?
sweet summit
haste owns
strong forum
ye
sweet summit
vers does not
simple rune
gotcha
shut summit
can block the slam on last boss, so tiny bit of use
sweet summit
standing in slam tho 
shut summit
no, if you face where its landing its blocked
warm plinth
To the whole party
strong forum
you can block the entire thing
sweet summit
oohhh
warm plinth
Also dodgeable btw.
strong forum
same as you can block the Mega Drill in Workshop
warm plinth
So if you just randomly don't take damage from it, that's why
Also dodgeable btw.
😂
strong forum
its almost as if you can block the same stuff you can dodge
sweet summit
but can i parry it with my ineffable ravager
amber siren
🗞️
shut summit
simple rune
you can block the entire thing
@strong forum last boss in ML?
sweet summit
i got more ineffable items now, maybe time to try it again
simple rune
oh shit and it doesn't damage the party?
sweet summit
pillars*
simple rune
wondered if there was any cheats for it
strong forum
playing vdh
strong forum
but its true
still pagoda
worthy spire
FeelsWeirdMan
simple rune
i don't speak russian but assuming that's dev
worthy spire
oh its the sword
simple rune
vendor time
still pagoda
i already have cleansed 475 maut axe
simple rune
worthy spire
I want some amps for pvp
For sure
Gotta abuse the fact that i have 4x gushing wounds before nerf tho
still pagoda
i want some TD3 and then shitton of haste amp for arms
muted forge
I know CnS is one of my best essences, but i'll only have it at rank 1 (on reset) so is it worth using?
currently have VoP(3) major, Strength of Warden(3),Anima(3),Aegis(2)
strong forum
its not worth using until R2, and even then R3 is the biggest reason to run it
warm plinth
If you get 1k arena rating before reset, you get R2 right away btw
sweet summit
with anythibg
warm plinth
Idk if you have 1k rating or not
sweet summit
litarally anything is better than anima
still pagoda
replace anima ASAP
strong forum
remove anime yea
sweet summit
anime bad
still pagoda
it's shit
sweet summit
weebs out
worthy spire
anime
strong forum
https://i.imgur.com/8Za3qbM.png @ionic fern should i use this now that everybody stacks vers
still pagoda
sweet summit
sweet summit
cock
simple rune
sweet summit
he's just memeing
placid oar
oh ok
still pagoda
verse stacking is a meme
sweet summit
@strong forum
worthy spire
What if you stack hthe forbidden word
sweet summit
L E E C H
simple rune
tfw you've just bought vers amp
sweet summit
uhoh
warm plinth
If you haven't put it on anything yet, it's refundable
strong forum
i mean we cant stop you, you are always free to do as you like
and not everything is about playing the most optimal stuff
or illegal
warm plinth
Streaaaam
strong forum
its easy with TD
warm plinth
I want to watch
strong forum
🙂
sweet summit
stream
simple rune
i'm just getting into pushing 21+ and vers seems to work for me, but i'll save for dev now
strong forum
im doing mine soon too
strong forum
i can sure
sweet summit
POOGY
worthy spire
let me follow
strong forum
^-
sweet summit
ahahah
still pagoda
warm plinth
It's in his profile
worthy spire
Yo does anyone have the twitchemotes addon on wow
sweet summit
yeah
worthy spire
You in-game right now?
strong forum
isnt that just :homies:
sweet summit
epic
strong forum
ye homies
worthy spire
gachiSLAP is also Pog
sweet summit
sweet summit
very true
amber siren
still pagoda
and the game also didn't give me chests for those 2 zones i did before it happened
what a time to be alive...
it was a smooth run tho
could have nuked Rexxar with all the stuns i have
sweet summit
sick sentinel
What a weekly :/
still pagoda
elder plank
is the engi helm any good for prot?
sweet summit
its a 475 with DC, so yeah
RNG and OP/UF is also solid
but there are better helmets
stiff oracle
Bis trinket 
@sick sentinel
still pagoda
it takes one moron dying from first boss's charge in SotS to ruin the key
at least this was not my key
sharp tangle
Hey quick question; are you guys doing world quests, visions and assauslts as protection or is that to unefficinet?
sharp tangle
Kinda need to lern the spec so using it as training, but dunno if im a bit slow now
So switching to arms or fury is not gonne massivly increase my killingtime?
glossy ore
I do everything as arms, its a lot faster
Ive done everything solo as arms up until now, but now that I have TD Im reconsidering
sharp tangle
In visions, the mobs gets a 25% nerf right? So I guess thats fine, but out in the world?
sturdy dome
well what i plan too hmmmmmmmmmmmm
smoky wave
finally. taken 25 dungeons to do. Only to replace now.
sweet summit
strong forum
big gamer
mortal brook
still pagoda
fuck...
+17 UR
2 DPS guys die to every fucking cleave
and tantrum
how much more bricked keys i will see... I dunno
keys on ally became a pain
i see only 2-3 17's in lfg and most of the time those i do are bricked by shit DPS
trail dome
fwiw
the 15-20 range is a cesspit on horde too
bunch of people with big egos and not much of a clue who leave a lot after small mistakes
still pagoda
dude
trail dome
as you push higher it gets better as the player pool shrinks and people start to remember you.
still pagoda
i've seen this so many times
at least i've got 2k rio after this one
though this is nowhere good
still pagoda
well
i'm moving over to horde soon enough. It won't fix problem of 15-20 range being a cesspool, but at least much more keys and groups in lfg
here on ally i can barely find 2-3
running 17's
trail dome
I'm currently trying to get my alt warrior's io up
I promise you EU isn't any better.
This is from the first bunch of trash in a sots 16 I ran earlier.
still pagoda
well
trail dome
What is kick.
sweet summit
same
still pagoda
but amount of people... It definitely helps
seriously. Raiding outside of top guilds is dying here, amount of groups in lfg shrank a lot compared to Legion and it is a really unpleasant experience tbh
trail dome
Yeah, I quit during ToS and when I came back I would say about 90% of my friendlist had moved to Horde
trail dome
Btw, see on related to the 15-20 cesspit range
is it normal to just explode if people don't kick during SotS
still pagoda
yes
trail dome
Water Blast (esp when raging) just crushes me
rigid sinew
sweet summit
yea i just fuck off if i dont see kicks
still pagoda
spell damage is totally avoidable in SotS
BUT FUCKING PUGS
yea i just fuck off if i dont see kicks [2]
sweet summit
as in LoS
sweet summit
acoustic stratus
anyone know if details tracks soothe usage
sweet summit
yeah, under "dispells" i believe
vocal flame
Modulaor Platinum Plating a good trinket for M+? im using the Pocket- Sized Computation Device now with the haste cards. Dont think its an upgrade
sweet summit
very very very bad
vocal flame
haha ok thats what i thought
manic perch
what essences do you run, i read the pins just wondering what you guys run 😛
still pagoda
VoP major
CnS, Lucid and Formless/Sphere/Null minors
sweet summit
VoP major
CnS+Lucid+Warden/Void for me
manic perch
why no aegis?
still pagoda
no additional slots
sweet summit
CnS is just straight up better in most situations
still pagoda
CnS and Lucid are really-really good
sweet summit
and i like the extra rage from Lucid
still pagoda
and better then most other essences
manic perch
ah ok
sweet summit
and i also need the +10 resistance this week
still pagoda
Lucid is just feelsgoodman
manic perch
farming cns on my rogue need to wait 5 weeks :S only have rank 1 on warrior
sweet summit
:/
still pagoda
found Sphere being good on necrotic tho
sweet summit
sphere owns
manic perch
read it now seems pretty good
sweet summit
me and my feelycraft rank minors:
CnS>Lucid>Sphere>aegis>void>warden
manic perch
sitting in awkward spot on warrior lol 8 corruption.... td3 and 1 expedient
still pagoda
38 corruption TD3 Exp2
for now
started getting raid resistance ups only today
sweet summit
still pagoda
definitely
manic perch
gz
minor wraith
Best corruption for prot in m+? TD and then just stack versatile?
minor wraith
Alright thanks!
full horizon
Sorry. Whoever gave me advice yesterday on posting this. Thank you... Can someone please tank a +13 KR? Realm- Icecrown, Server-US, Username: Sashafierce
So many tanks i had right now have no idea what they are doing.
still pagoda
trail dome
where is the HM boss flying in junkyard this week on EU?
tribal knot
I thought it was random ??
strong forum
It's on a weekly rotation
He starts on gunker this week
But when you start the key you can just open map and see him flying around
Or even before actually, in m0
tribal knot
Ahh right thanks, didn’t know that, generally just thought it was random Thanks
sharp night
you can see where he starts by zoning into mecha
just check before you start the key, it's the same spot
carmine wadi
EU starts at the slime also
queen fulcrum
mortal brook
big
sick sentinel
Someone say leech?
steady fern
is somebody playing full versa corruption in highleys over td?