@trail dome in general we have pretty solid uptime on SB with AM+Bolster.
#protection
ionic fern
main vault
IT2 is just inefficient
strong forum
IT2 is slightly overkill
trail dome
Obviously there's a huge difference in variability between 250% IT and like, one IT1 or whatever.
trail dome
Like if my IT procs at bad times as hpal it feels dreadful, cause it's all I have.
strong forum
trail dome
Have you ever had situations @strong forum where it just doesn't proc, though?
trail dome
I have 3 logs in nya where I have literally 1 proc in about a 4 minute fight.
ionic fern
It was only a problem at the start when it came out..for some reason melee classes couldn't proc it since it was flagged for spells only iirc.
😂
marble cipher
I'm only at 6k echoes, I'll cry a bit inside of TD III is on vendor this saturday
strong forum
and then theres the luckers that didnt have all essences on main
trail dome
But I also have procs with ~30%+ uptime
strong forum
and have like 27k now
marble cipher
Yup
strong forum
its 1 ppm Archnomad, thats about all i can tell you, rng still is a thing, its not clockwork heart
marble cipher
I should've not gotten all of them, but, who knew right 🤷
trail dome
I just think it's interesting you've never had situations you felt screwed by it.
strong forum
idk why you could feel screwed by it
trail dome
But again, I imagine it's cause you run so much less of it it's less of a big deal if it doesn't proc.
strong forum
well if youre running 290% like Zmok
sure its gonna be noticable
but IT1 you dont really notice
trail dome
I can run 310% 😅
Anyway. Do you guys think it's worth picking up an IT1 on my babby warrior?
I'm currently of the opinion I should probably just save for TD. I made it this week.
marble cipher
I'd go for TD tbf, but I'm kinda addicted tho that one
trail dome
You seem to be a person of taste @marble cipher
marble cipher
Haha
trail dome
Giant laser beams from the sky contributing 40% of group dps is probably what mike morhaime envisioned when he came up with the idea for WoW.
marble cipher
So you were basically asking a question that you already had an answer to 😉
main vault
TD has a much higher cost though
trail dome
Well, I did say I was already in camp save for TD.
I was asking if people had some compelling arguments for picking up IT.
marble cipher
It is good, and a lot cheaper, but I'm cheap too and I just won't spend my echoes till TD 3 is up
main vault
Before TD no, but its a piece of what a "bis" setup would be
ionic fern
strong forum
cant wait for SL tbh, no more essence or corruption questions
marble cipher
Hopefully by then I finally craft some crit/haste legs......
trail dome
@strong forum Hey I just rerolled warrior, which soul conduit is best?
warm plinth
Those questions will just be replaced by x and y questions
strong forum
fuck
trail dome
@strong forum hey i just picked up the class, what covenant is better?
ionic fern
I will make a quick and easy pin for that, don't worry.
1)Sim yourself if you want performance
2)Go for tmog.
👍
warm plinth
Which no one will read 😂
marble cipher
Tmog = performance!
warm plinth
Nome: gets promoted to a role that answers questions
Also Nome: tires of answering questions mere weeks later
😂
ionic fern
The only thing that comes with colored names is that you can't troll anymore because people take everything you say seriously.
marble cipher
Is that a troll @ionic fern?
steady slate
i tanked a 12 temple last night.... turns out that if the dps is subpar, necrotic stacks add up quick.
steady slate
yeah. he's a jerk.
marble cipher
Haha
ionic fern
😂
steady slate
he's never around when i need him and only shows up on the final hit of the last mob of a pack and only then to go in the wrong direction
marble cipher
He also procs on that critter you clapped
steady slate
yup
steady slate
the only time he moves in the direction i want is if he'll pull at least two additional packs
TBH, i'd trade TD3 for an equivalent amount of expedient 3
marble cipher
Most satisfaction you can get is a massive TD killing of Thing From Beyond.
"checkmate mtf"
steady slate
i don't mess around with that much corruption. i try not to even get the eye
marble cipher
You should though
It's not bad at all
Move out of ring, or spell reflect it.
Spell reflect, stun, fear Thing
Ez
steady slate
nah, because rngesus is a bigger jerk than TD and he'll delight in any opportunity to screw me, so i give him as few opportunities as possible
marble cipher
Hehe
I mean, Thing procs a lot more this week, but that's just necrotic that's doing that
steady slate
i'm not gonna waste cc on something i'm doing to myself when i should be using it on trash packs
marble cipher
I usually don't either, I spell reflect Thing almost always, and eat the hit when it's on cd
steady slate
i ain't got an unlimited amount, so i gotta be stingy with it.
warm plinth
You don’t have to be stingy with. All of our CC aside from Intimidating Shout is a short CD. And your party has CC as well; not like you’re doing everything.
With it*
steady slate
i'm not risking that, because i can guarantee you that if i run enough to get Thing, it'll pop out when i'm low health, out of cc, and unable to move because of mechanics
well, i know if i put down cc that it's going to be applied and applied when i want it. if i'm relying on randos to do it, i don't know if it'll get done or when
i'm not suggesting i mistrust the garbage players i normally run with, but i just don't trust them
warm plinth
I mean that’s fair but refusing to go beyond even 19 corruption is just inting in my opinion. If you’re not comfortable at 40+ then by all means but Eye is almost a non-issue.
main vault
@ionic fern What is this I hear about stacking IT for an infinite Ravager build?
smoky wave
i'm not risking that, because i can guarantee you that if i run enough to get Thing, it'll pop out when i'm low health, out of cc, and unable to move because of mechanics
@steady slate that sounds like fun if I'm honest, but I embrace the chaos. Using the cloak covers 90% of the times I really don't want the eye.
main vault
BiS or no? Sounds bis
marble cipher
I run with two tresholds, 39 on monk and DH, and 59 on warrior
sweet summit
did anyone say ineffable ravager
steady slate
i'm running 26 right now and hate it. my shaman runs 0
main vault
IR new build
sick sentinel
If your shaman runs 0 corruption that is a throw @steady slate
Under 20 is just plain not wanting to play well
molten hinge
Hi, new here and just returning and I'm trying to get a feel for how warrior is right now. I used to tank in tbc and wotlk and am starting playing again. Is protection in a decent place compared to other tanks?
warm plinth
Yep, we're doing very well right now
steady slate
not necessarily. i have lots of crappy corruptions i can equip for the sake of equipping corruption, but i'd end up with terrible stats, bad corruption, and annoying effects to play around
steady slate
i run 2x unguent caress, and 2x expedient. that combo sims and performs better than either my IS or TD
sick sentinel
It’s one thing not to have corruption (though in most cases even a “bad” corruption can be an upgrade) but it’s another thing to be afraid of effects that are basically nothing
steady slate
i wasn't afraid of the effects until they cost us a kill on vexiona.
if i hadn't been slowed and gotten caught, i would have been able to dodge mechanics, stay alive and contribute enough to get the kill. so, yeah, i put my raid and team's success over my stats
steady slate
sure, lots of other things went wrong, but i needed to stay alive and i didn't because i ran too much corruption and that's what i found unacceptable.
sick sentinel
Getting the snare isn’t running too much corruption
steady slate
it is if it prevents you from dealing with avoidable mechanics
normally it isn't. normally the eye isn't a big deal either, but sometimes it is
and maybe it's because i'm getting older, but my risk tolerance is really low
sick sentinel
No what prevented you from doing the mechanic is unawareness on how to react to the snare and likely poor positioning. The snare just helped point that out. Do you my dude, you are just inting if you run that low of corruption
rapid ore
With 12% exp everything Haste and Enchant makes sense or ? im doing like 20-21 keys
warm plinth
TD TD and more TD
uncut kraken
Do you all do dailies in arms/fury? I seem to do very little dmg in prot spec
warm plinth
What ilevel are you Vimto?
sick sentinel
Prot for lyfe
uncut kraken
Only 410, but I'm struggling to do things like Visions because my dmg output is so low
warm plinth
Yeah that's why. 410 is very low
sick sentinel
Visions are going to be rough at low ilvl
warm plinth
Do some dungeons and get some gear
Even heroic dungeons drop higher ilevel gear than you are right now
modern brook
heroic CHORTLE
uncut kraken
Okay, so just don't get too focused on Visions right now
sick sentinel
Honestly do the assaults, bank your currency and spam visions when your ilvl is a bit better tbh
uncut kraken
Okay
warm plinth
But I wouldn't try to do more than that until you get some gear
modern brook
the other day i remembered non mythic leveled non-raid content existed
uncut kraken
@sick sentinel that sounds like a smart idea
warm plinth
Hawgz's suggestion is good too
sick sentinel
It is? 
modern brook
I'd second hawgz's suggestion
warm plinth
Don't go getting a big head Hawgz
uncut kraken
Thank you all, new to the game so still getting the hang of it
sick sentinel
You are all good duder that’s what we are here for
sick sentinel
Some of us long, long ago...
uncut kraken
Ty
sick sentinel
Many moons
still pagoda
sacred bear
is tank damage high on mythic nzoth?
sacred bear
so i'm safe just going TDs instead of a mix of defensive corruptions??
sick sentinel
Void lash will whack ya pretty good as will the thought harvesters after mindwrack if you don’t swap
Oh yeah I run TD all the way on nzoth
mortal brook
TD always the good choice
sick sentinel
There are no raid bosses where tank damage is high enough that you have to swap out TD
sacred bear
i was mainly running around with the debuff on drestagath so i felt safer running defensive corruptions
sick sentinel
But how will you pump sweet TDS into drest if you do that
sacred bear
i was being nice and let my dk cotank stay on the boss at all times
while i ran around like a maniac
modern brook
I've downed drest 5 times and still dont know whats going on
sacred bear
so what i'm hearing then for the corruption vendor, is that if i have like 6 TD pieces i dont even really need to farm..
sick sentinel
Basically
modern brook
imo td6 -8, REST ON EEXPEDIENT
sick sentinel
Can get some haste % if you got a lil extra room :^)
modern brook
i capsllocked that by accidentbut it captures my excitmenet so
sacred bear
what great game design
sick sentinel
Are you ok @modern brook
sick sentinel
You are typing like Ryan seacrest rn
sick sentinel
saw on reddit that seacrest looked like he had a stroke on tv this week
modern brook
t-t poor guy
sick sentinel
Anywho yes @sacred bear game is bad but TD is fun at least
sacred bear
so what makes nzoth so tilting
chilly brook
The fact that it's so zzzzzzzzz
sick sentinel
Just pick up fire mage orbs right before they comboost
At least then you have the entertainment of tilting them
chilly brook
Plus it's probably tilting because it's pretty easy to screw up the portals if tanks or dps are stupid
sick sentinel
I tell them “you better pick it up quick or daddy hawgz is gonna come take your goods”
modern brook
it never feels like its 8 minutes long
chilly brook
@modern brook nice pimple
modern brook
Dont bully
chilly brook
I still dont understand why they added that
sick sentinel
It’s fkn 13 minutes long wut
modern brook
YEah which isnt 8.
chilly brook
Nzoth honestly wouldn't be bad if it wasn't the final fight of the expansion
I wouldn't have had an issue if the nzoth fight was actually the carapace fight
sick sentinel
I dont HATE the boss. It’s just one of those that is a snooze for tanks
modern brook
bro
chilly brook
Buuuutttttttt
modern brook
BFA is a snooze for tanks
chilly brook
Idk man
sick sentinel
True
modern brook
by far the most boring raid-tanking expansion
you dont do anytihng
press taunt at the numberu agree on
and just chiller
chilly brook
Hard to snooze when 👢 🍵 👏
modern brook
i mean yeah hard agree
sick sentinel
Makes me feel stronk
modern brook
dont get me wrong
sick sentinel
Tell dps I am Dwayne the proc Johnson
sick sentinel
I’ve been using that for months
And it tilts em every time
My details name is The proc
vestal garnet
td3 + 2x it1 + expedient 3 or td4 + 2x it1 or td4 + expedient 3? i guess td4 + 2x it1 is best choice?
brittle owl
td5 + it1 is even better
sick sentinel
Td 4 + expedient
vestal garnet
i can go td5 but one item is 445, so big no for me
brittle owl
wut
sick sentinel
Put that in and do more damage as you pull things through the wall in Td
chilly brook
I wish I had TD
sick sentinel
You’ll get it eventually pal just keep hoping
modern brook
bro
I will put on leather TD
445
fuck that put it on
(note: please dont put on leather td)
modern brook
isnt r3 td for sale?
chilly brook
Not unless something changed
modern brook
T-T
warm plinth
But it resets tomorrow night so we'll see
chilly brook
Twisted Appendage 3 tho
If you want to go with a single target meme build
I actually have Twisted Appendage 3 on my monk and it slaps tbh
orchid frigate
farming visions as long as you got calescing visions is best way to farm echoes?
tame garden
Sure
orchid frigate
m+ pvp 😒
tame garden
Wtf hawgz
sick sentinel
Daddy Hawgz can not afford
tame garden
Selfish
sick sentinel
warm plinth
2v2 apparently is the fastest way by far (but you have to win :p )
tame garden
What did you buy
warm plinth
But yeah visions is super fast if you have a bunch of vessels
chilly brook
@sick sentinel share the love please Proc
past berry
What haste levels should I be shooting for to get max uptime on shield block? Is there a threshold to shoot for?
warm plinth
No threshold, haste haste and more haste (after ilevel)
sick sentinel
Fine I suppose I will allow the vendor to get it
chilly brook
tame garden
Ty
sick sentinel
I have 8 :^)
orchid frigate
hehe
modern brook
but winning 2s is god farming echos
tame garden
Arenas is slow as hell
sick sentinel
the problem with winning in arena is, your mmr will rise
chilly brook
Just throw
tame garden
Cuz I lose every game
modern brook
I dont read what you type ghash
past berry
I'm at 48% buffed right now... is there a good pin that explains the correct way to rotate cds for max mitigation uptime? Keep in mind I'm coming from a mongo class (vengeance DH) that doesnt care about that
tame garden
Does vengeance not have to watch demon spikes uptime anymore
chilly brook
If neither are available shield wall
past berry
Not at all
warm plinth
Which is like 10% of the time 😂
tame garden
DH truly is degenerate
chilly brook
Press demoralizing shout everytime it's available
Press avatar every time its available
Boom
You're now a pro
past berry
Its insanely easy lol, with gluttony and VOP you stay in meta permanent
tame garden
Prot is rly easy too you just press everything on cd
past berry
Yea I have that, I just feel like my shield block uptime could be better
modern brook
^
orchid frigate
omg i ate a toblerone within 2 min
past berry
I understand that, but in dungeons and raids, stuff is always auto attacking
warm plinth
Well, uptime matters, but it's not really the metric that tells you you're using it properly.
modern brook
I think thats what griff was saying though
sick sentinel
% blocked hits is the metric you want
warm plinth
Like I can tell you if you have 20% uptime on details that you're not using it right
In a key that is
modern brook
Watching prot warriors gear through m0 with 3 casts of SB is painful
past berry
Yea I'm always at around 60% or more mitigated minus magic heavy fights
warm plinth
Well tbh you still want it up during magic heavy fights. Even in magic heavy dungeons like Shrine, most of the damage you take will still be from blockable attacks.
past berry
My healers say I'm relatively easy to heal, but I know I can be better, just looking for good resources to read
orchid frigate
think warrior is most fun of the tanking classes i have in term of keeping mitigation up
warm plinth
Exceptions being Rixxa, Mogul and Zul (he does melee but very infrequently)
sick sentinel
Until the water bolts go through
chilly brook
I mean it's pretty simple though
past berry
I always keep shield block on cd
orchid frigate
btw no one that made a WA based upon the spell reflect list?
past berry
What about shield wall?
modern brook
i imagine that WA would be disgustingly ineffiicent
orchid frigate
ah ok
chilly brook
Shield wall is a gap filler or a magic mit tool imo
You'll end up using it
Quite a bit
warm plinth
Spell Reflection Tracker - https://wago.io/zcY0ZrS0d
past berry
I've been saving it for oh crap moments or big magic damage
chilly brook
Dont be afraid to pop it in general because AM
modern brook
Thats pretty fair
sick sentinel
SW should be used almost on cd If you can plan pulls around it
modern brook
you can also use it to justify a double pull w/ dps cds
high nacelle
is it worth to cleanse vers corruption from all sources?
sick sentinel
Depends
sick sentinel
How much vers do you have and how high of keys are you running
chilly brook
Because you're squandering AM at that point
orchid frigate
thanks @warm plinth
sick sentinel
If you see SW up you should start to look to make a big pull
past berry
Also in raids when I'm not actively tanking I pump all of my rage into IP for the cd reduction, is this correct?
chilly brook
If you're not actively tanking just dump on revenge tbh
tame garden
Ye cds should be used proactively. If you have buttons to press pull big enough to use them
chilly brook
IP if you're about to cap and need to dump off gcd
sick sentinel
If you can fit it into your budget w/e don’t cleanse but TD is better
past berry
Ah ok, I didnt know that worked for cd reduction as well
chilly brook
It's essentially the same tbh
high nacelle
okey
chilly brook
Just spend rage dont overcap is the only thing you have to worry about with AM
The beauty of prot, its deceptively easy but punishing af
autumn rampart
Hey guys, just a quick question about essences with the current affix in m+. What do we want to run for the necrotic stacks, null dynamo?
modern brook
oh god did dratnos say to do that?
autumn rampart
Hahaha noted
chilly brook
Yes he did
modern brook
😬
modern brook
literally same as always
chilly brook
Same minors
autumn rampart
Still new to war tanking haha
modern brook
Vop/lucid/CnS/dungeons choice
past berry
From what I have gathered it is always VOP until you get to insanely high keys then its lucid
autumn rampart
Aight, noted. Thanks😊
autumn rampart
Tried lucid, didnt feel like it does much compared to vop tbh. Dunno haha
past berry
I started fooling with lucid last night so I could get familiar with it for later, but I'm only running 13-15 keys atm
chilly brook
The thing with lucid isn't about a specific key level its about using it in a very specific way
modern brook
ultimately the issue with that sentence tuda
is that you dont need lucid for those levels
so you're never actually getting the practice with it
past berry
No you dont
chilly brook
Lucid is all about pulling around lucid and not wasting it
past berry
Ok, then what is the right way to use it?
Pull huge and use it? Then wait for it to come off cd and pull huge again?
warm plinth
Basically, yeah. And make sure you're spamming the shit out of IP as much as you can while doing your rotation so that you don't overcap rage
The idea, as Bull said, is to get 40 seconds of uninterrupted Avatar
modern brook
you also need to line it up with your DPS
past berry
Holy crap, 40 seconds of avatar? That's kinda insane
modern brook
so if you're not tracking their CDs or they're being monkeys with it you're not getting the most out of it
chilly brook
Yea
Hence why I was saying you can use it outside of high high keys
The problem is that most people trying to use it dont understand it
modern brook
I mean outside of high keyes
chilly brook
Even in high keys
chilly brook
They do if you pull big enough
modern brook
yeah ok fair :^(
chilly brook
warm plinth
Bigger pulls don't necessarily mean longer pulls though
warm plinth
Depending on your DPS it could mean shorter
chilly brook
Depends on your comp
warm plinth
Like if you're pulling around combust or an unholy dk
Shit's gonna melt no matter the size
And UH will do more if it's bigger
chilly brook
Just pull with 3 BM hunters and it'll melt all the time
sick sentinel
Yeah we pulled the whole beach of TD last week and uhdk melted everything in 0.2 seconds
15 bursting stacks later
past berry
Well I dont understand it, which is why I was fooling with it to try to figure it out before I'm running 20's
chilly brook
It's a very niche setup
sick sentinel
But I’m also not consistently pulling around combust
past berry
I've been watching a dude by the name of nerftank, that's how I'm trying to learn
Probably not the best idea, but its taught me a lot
warm plinth
Well
Personally I think his commentary videos are good
But he also does weird shit like conflict major which as someone already said, is not needed
modern brook
whos this?
warm plinth
Nerf
modern brook
oh
warm plinth
He does key videos where he commentates why he's doing what he's doing
Which I think is nice
warm plinth
And it's usually with pugs or viewers I believe
chilly brook
You don't have to be running optimal stuff as a specific tank spec to be a top tank tbh
still pagoda
most of the time you will either see assa rogues, frost mages and other not so optimal specs pop up in pug groups
chilly brook
Your ability to cater to your group and have optimal routes are far more important
past berry
I have ert that tracks everyone's cds
But again I'm not running keys high enough to get the full effect
main vault
most of the time you will either see assa rogues, frost mages and other not so optimal specs pop up in pug groups
@still pagoda agreed
Like pugging as a Fire Mage, or playing Fire below like 15-16 is just inting
warm plinth
You can do fire lower probably but not the lucid build
You'd have to do like the vop/kindling build probably
covert saffron
Hello everyone, need a few opinion on better survivability trinket combos; Vita/Void or Vita/Humming? Currently have ~3100 haste and running Heroic raids mostly.
warm plinth
I guess I've done Mad World on the two easiest specs, I should gear up my war and try for it on him
Vita/Humming. Void is in a 3-way tie for worst trinket in the game
covert saffron
I was finding that my haste got so high if both proced (Vita/Humming) my GCD almost locks up. I was trying to figure out if the steady shield + ver stats was better to smooth out dmg.
modern brook
let it lock up
modern brook
haste is more than gcd for us
main vault
GCD lkock is onyl 100%
modern brook
its SB charges, rage gen, cdr, etc
covert saffron
By lock up I mean I actually have buttons fail to cast I am activating so fast and actually have to slow down to let it reset. I can get more casts out when it does not lock up (ie more rage, dmg, mitigation)
modern brook
in which case u need to tighten up your rotation or get better healers
or you're dying to burst
in which case .5% DR from verse is not going to outweigh an extra cast of sw
mortal brook
that's a similar thing to diablo as well. spamming is less activation than just timing right
warm plinth
Well that's not even really a haste thing tbh. People say it is but I have like 14% haste outside of Furious Gaze and can still have times where I spam blade dance 6 times before it finally casts
covert saffron
It appears to be around haste, happens when I break around 175% haste the buttons actually stop showing GCD timer and just glow constantly as if they never go on cool down, but they stop working anyway. May be an interface, have to check that out.
Appreciate the sounding board 🙂
main vault
Thats because you have your spell queue window fucked prolly
It what that sounds like to me
warm plinth
Yeah, could be
mortal brook
reduce the ms delay
covert saffron
Hmm, ok now for the newb questions LOL. We talking about settings in an addon or the actual game settings? Dont recall a delay setting in the game settings TBH
mortal brook
in game
modern brook
aye
amber siren
i dont know if you can adjust it through the default in-game options, either through script commands or through an addon like advanced user interface
main vault
You cant
Only script
/console SpellQueueWindow ###
Its 400ms by default
Which is about half a GCD at 100% haste
warm plinth
Me neither, because spellqueue was all I used it for 😂
main vault
I wanna say it was like CVaRVariables?
main vault
yeah
covert saffron
ok I will use the script function. Thanks everyone 🙂
still pagoda
Like pugging as a Fire Mage, or playing Fire below like 15-16 is just inting
@main vault
I know, but it still kills CnS as major
and yea, i see frosts in +17's
so it's kind of a norm
trail dome
Can I ask why naowh is talking about going full vers amp with IT on warrior, i thought the idea was TD as much as possible.
Obv he's pushing v vv v high keys
strong forum
he wants #1 world
strong forum
TD as much as possible is for anything but #1 world keys
still pagoda
done +12 SoB on my 437 monk right now
amber siren
again, high keys are entering one shot territory where flat DR is required to survive
still pagoda
Honestly, no problems except for threat
trail dome
ok so i'm going to go TD cause by the time i get to "high keys" IT will probably have gone round again by several times
thanks gang.
strong forum
IT 1 will be available in 1 month
still pagoda
oh
strong forum
again
still pagoda
IT1 is just a good thing to have if you still have corruption budget for it
chilly brook
I miss anything good?
trail dome
ye that's what i mean. I figure it'll take a while to gear my warrior to the point i'm capable of pushing high keys, also practice & learning to play etc.
Until then I may as well use TD. :)
chilly brook
@trail dome his use case is literally determined by the insane damage intake that can one shot and literally needs vers at that point because of the scaling
dark lark
Should I even bother buying IT1? I have 2 pieces of IT2 in bags
Running td4 and vers2
And now exp3
Running arms in raid and pushing m+ as prot
strong forum
IT1 is better than IT2
its more CDR for less corruption
30% for 12 Cr
T2 is 50% for 30cr
dark lark
Hmm ok, I think I still invest in the expedients for my own goals. I can wait on IT1 till next time :)
misty steeple
What bit band should i go for to combine with my "if you use 3 spells..attacks on same target" 470 jy ring?
the one that gives haste?
strong forum
yup
misty steeple
i play arms and prot, i figured the haste one is best for both. Put EXP III on the ring already that i had since its 470
Just my alt
dark lark
@misty steeple yeah my current rationale is that exp3 benefits both specs more than IT1 does
misty steeple
Definitely, i really just play this as an alt for my friends do +5-10s atm. Do tanks get any vers or surging corruptions, or is using a combination of EXP/TD the best?
I seem to be fine with all 465 azerite pieces and a 465 shield on everything up to +12-+13
dark lark
Vers and surging are great for tanks
misty steeple
really only doing m+
dark lark
But 5-10s is literally about keeping shield block up ;)
strong forum
TD is best until youre doing top world keys
misty steeple
stacking TD 1s or 3s?
strong forum
with 465 you can tank up to 20s
as many as you can
doesnt matter they scale linear
dark lark
As much as your corruption budget can handle
strong forum
3x TD1 is the same as 1x TD3
dark lark
If you die to corruption regularly then you have too much TD and should maybe dial it back ;)
misty steeple
Thanks, hopefully it pops on the vendor soon. I would buy TD 1 to put on my shield
its got honed mind ><
strong forum
im praying for any combination of TD on saturday
still pagoda
^
misty steeple
and yeah until i made a WA for shield block I was like why am i being hit so hard lol, new to tanking, have a 475 hunter as my main
dark lark
I'm blessed to have a 470/475 TD piece in every armor slot
@misty steeple the weak aura in #268491842637660160 is really simple and good for keeping SB up
dark lark
But if you like yours then by all means
misty steeple
I grabbed some high popularity one off wago, so its probably whats inthe faq.
dark lark
If the author is Marok then that's the one
misty steeple
yep, using his ignore pain and shield block
dark lark
👍
cold dock
Do any tanks in her know if there is an overlay or anything that lets me put my MDT path on my regular map?
misty steeple
last question, what zandalari troll racial would be best for tanking? I have just kept on the crit one.
didnt even realize one grants health and armor though
strong forum
Crit one is pretty much best
Can't turn regular map into MDT @cold dock
Unless you bind a macro to it
misty steeple
@strong forum thank you sir
orchid frigate
blazing gale
damn I was wondering
necrotic is decreasing healing, but zandalri troll racial just says heal to 100% over 6 s
will it work with 20 sstacks?
warm plinth
Necrotic decreases all healing
So with 20 stacks it would do 60% over 6 seconds
instead of 100%
The only healing not affected by Necrotic is Meta on a VDH because it's a server-side script instead of an actual heal
blazing gale
damn, had a lawsue ready ;/
main vault
Could 5 mask if Fury
warm plinth
I'll 5 mask yo face
alpine spruce
dark lark
Spell reflecting split personality is so clutch
It's just that single target damage is lame lol
Have to use crucible major and cyclotronic
marble cipher
Waaaaaaait
You can just run through it with spell reflect?!
dark lark
Sorry, I meant that I use crucible/cyclotronic. Obviously not required but it's nice to help speed things up
dark lark
you pull stuff into rexxar and thrall?
sick sentinel
LS offensive CD
Yeah I always pull stuff into thrall for the titan prox
Rexxar no
I hero rexxar
dark lark
stuff is always dead around thrall for me 😐
maybe i should pull smaller in valley of str
dire blade
Also go into witch buff elite with spell reflect on and interrupt her first cast. Shell poly herself and you kill her bf she comes out of it for easy 10% haste buff
marble cipher
I should use spell reflect more in Visions it seems hahaha
sick sentinel
which corruptions are you guys going for first as prot? i am fully dps specced on my tank for max dmg, but just unsure what to spend my echoes on. thanks!
main vault
TD
sick sentinel
just TD everything?
polar raft
worth snagging up an Ineffable?
main vault
Only if it is to fill a gap made in TD
i.e. not enough resist to fit another TD, but enough for IT1
polar raft
well i have no TD somehow after 2 months so ez clap
vocal skiff
How do you deal with the blob in waycrest kitchen with no comms?
At this point I feel it's better to just kill tank buster later and use the other door
sweet scaffold
I like pulling it to the courtyard and taking tank breaker downstairs isntead
main vault
I type out that I am going to kite it to point X or whatever
sick sentinel
@main vault you rate ineffable truth do you?
marble cipher
I still use expedient as a filler till I can go rank 6 TD though, but, IT is nice to have too
main vault
yeah not at all mandatory
wispy crystal
hello could u tell me what comp twilight should prot warrior have i mean 3x lvl 1 or 2xlvl2?
wispy crystal
yes but i can have 1xlvl3 twilight cause corruption is too high, and maybe 3x1 twilight will be better
warm plinth
It's the same corruption
R3 Twilight Dev is 75 corruption, R1 is 25. So 3x1 is still 75 corruption
wispy crystal
ok, then u have 3x better chance to trigger tw with lvl 1 will it better than 1xlvl3?
rapid drift
hotfix coming to re-corrupt cleansed items
main vault
2xTD2 is TD4
wispy crystal
Ah ok i see
main vault
So you just wear whatever the highest you can is
still pagoda
2.6k rio pug DPS peeps
die to fire beam on 3rd boss of +16 workshop
do less then 40k overall through the dungeon
strong forum
my 475 + 470 crit haste rings + sockets are only 50 dps more than the haste combo without sockets
lucid dew
haste not as good on monk though
strong forum
yes its terrible on monk
lucid dew
such a bummer
lucid dew
haha
honestly i dont love my monk at all
i like my dh and warrior way more
i lvoe haste i like fast attacks
ya i think im gonna farm these mech rings and then make my 475 BOE ring IS for fury
strong forum
IS
lucid dew
single target raid though
lucid dew
GW is getting nerfed though i was thinking about making a GW set
lucid dew
haha
lucid dew
you want a IT for arms right
strong forum
IT is decent for arms aswell yes
but generall you just wanna stack the shit out of expedient
lucid dew
you do make a good point now i think the reason i never thought about arms was I didnt have an expedient set now that i can get one that makes a lot more sense
blazing gale
too bad its this week tho
strong forum
ye
blazing gale
well u cant put 8 expedients right away to stay on save lvl
I had some coal vissions lying around gotta make 10 runs today 😄
lucid dew
are they dropping the increased rate yet?
strong forum
10 runs = 7.5k echoes
blazing gale
the echoes are
uncut field
What corruption should I be looking to add for m+?
lucid dew
wait can we already buy corruption?
strong forum
yes?
blazing gale
yea
strong forum
where have you been
blazing gale
mother sells
tame garden
uncut field
Okay appreciate it
modern brook
Yeahp
lucid dew
lol rip i thought it was coming at reset
blazing gale
and
strong forum
yes, last one
lucid dew
oh lol
uncut field
Is that an IT r1?
strong forum
yes
strong forum
in saturday we trust
tame garden
pls
lucid dew
do we know the schedule yet?
strong forum
so every reset and every saturday
warm plinth
It’s Friday night not Saturday
tame garden
hes EU
tame garden
strong forum
cuz im superior, clearly 😏
warm plinth
:’(
tame garden
have we even played together ghash
main vault
main vault
I bet Ghash is the type of player to get you to start WoW and says youll level together, then stays on his max toon
warm plinth
I was the shitty DH in the group
warm plinth
Lmfao yes! The mobs went through the middle instead of down the side
And pulled the crushers
tame garden
and an extra pack
still pagoda
I bet Ghash is the type of player to get you to start WoW and says youll level together, then stays on his max toon
@main vault
half of TD3 is in my pocket already
next week gonna be fun
mortal brook
what if it shows up tomorrow
sick sentinel
That’s gonna be an oof if it pops up tomorrow
mortal brook
steady fern
has someone simmed if its worth to go full versa amp corruption for high keys?
main vault
smh
pastel sleet
I pug “low” keys with my friends. What corruptions should I be stacking?
sick sentinel
Td
pastel sleet
Just TD?
main vault
yes
pastel sleet
Alright. Out of curiosity, why?
pastel sleet
Understood
strong forum
TD5 does 25k+ dps by existing
pastel sleet
Oh
strong forum
strong forum
big
warm plinth
@main vault That is actually how I am unless you're playing as much as I am lol.
pastel sleet
Heed my call looks like it’s putting in work 😂
warm plinth
I don't like waiting for people when I'm doing shit
I'll level with you but don't hold me up
main vault
lol
mortal brook
looks like you accidentally /cast maul'd there
main vault
ikr
viral gulch
Hey bois
Im new to prot warrior
and wondering what essences I should buy for my echoes
last gazelle
How about sotw or formless. Would want to buy one of those?
strong forum
sotw you can earn pretty fast anyway, wouldnt recommend buying that
still pagoda
^
strong forum
formless void, sure
still pagoda
formless is good if you have a healer who uses CoF
i have +17 TD
this shit is cursed
orchid frigate
sharkbait's fish hook or faralos?
strong forum
depends on ilvl
orchid frigate
same
orchid frigate
oh ok
sick sentinel
Oh i was tagged
I dont use that vers set at all in keys
I use td 4 with either IT 1 or vers 3
strong forum
yup, the dream setup
warm plinth
@outer dew is my dream setup ❤️
strong forum
i did 3 keys total last week, big pusher here ama
steel thunder
Does anyone have experience with best Corruptions for M18 and higher or the later Nyalotha mythic bosses? lvl3-5 TD and rest tempo?
steel thunder
haste*
strong forum
expedient is haste%
IT is ineffable truth aka cooldown reduction rate
strong forum
there 5 more months of this pepega fest
strong forum
ive got nothing better to do so i suffer through this essence corruption clownfest until its over
warm plinth
I'm 2928 🙃
strong forum
big gamer
pastel sleet
noob question. is there any difference between 3 TD 1s and a td3?
strong forum
nop
pastel sleet
so just stack as much TD as possible from any sources
strong forum
almost every corruption works like that
warm plinth
You probably want some TD1s available tbh, for flexibility
pastel sleet
ic
strong forum
the only ones that dont stack linear are lash of the void and ineffable truth
warm plinth
I'm guessing you meant echoing void
warm plinth
Lash only has 1 rank :p
strong forum
yes but you can wear 2
strong forum
and they dont stack
pastel sleet
on a scale of nub to noob how bad is this set up atm
warm plinth
Right, they proc individually
warm plinth
Yeah, ideally you'd have less expedient and more TD
But if that's what you got then 🤷
sick sentinel
And less mastery lul
pastel sleet
yeah i bought the Exp for my arms set and then forgot that it was a clean piece for my prot.... so i had to work around it until i get something else
i saw mdi dudes using expedient but i know its not the same
warm plinth
Expedient isn't bad so at least it's not a complete waste
warm plinth
I wouldn't buy any corruption at this point
If you've gone without for this long, just buy it when it shows up on the vendor
pastel sleet
do we know how much it will cost?
warm plinth
15k for TD3, so probably 5k for TD1 and 10k for TD2
sick sentinel
I think it said 15k for TD3
warm plinth
Or something around there
sick sentinel
Damnit ghash beat me to it
pastel sleet
ah that isnt that bad
warm plinth
Nope
pastel sleet
is m+ gonna be the fastest way to farm that stuff
strong forum
technically high rated arena is
sick sentinel
2s is where the money is at
strong forum
but m+ is the most reliable
pastel sleet
me no like pvp
sick sentinel
Yeah you can go in and smash 12-15s for decent echos
strong forum
i made like 1.2k echoes in 10 games in arena, but you have to win
outer dew
@warm plinth doesn't need set up to clap
strong forum
owo
pastel sleet
"smash" ha. for me and my friends that highest end content
warm plinth
Even low rated...someone saying they're getting ~50 echoes for sub-1k CR arenas
for a win
That's still way faster than M+ if you're winning
sick sentinel
What’s the echoes for normal raid
warm plinth
Well, that doesn't seem 100% accurate because they've SSed as low as 38
still pagoda
i have a question
warm plinth
for a win
still pagoda
is TD anywhere doable this week?
strong forum
its a terrible terrible week for TD, but its always doable
still pagoda
since i've got +17 TD drop today and already feel bad for it
sick sentinel
Doable every week tbh but more friendly on a fort week imo
warm plinth
TD is not doable on Sang/Quaking, you can't change my mind
sick sentinel
Yeah it is you’ll just be 35 minutes over time
warm plinth
😂
strong forum
#worth
sick sentinel
It is the week of TD I have a 21 TD
still pagoda
dunno, but i feel like i'm stuck at 16-17 right now
warm plinth
a 20 FH
sick sentinel
We have 3 TD this week
warm plinth
Which we got a21 temple out of and then didn't time that because of a stupid bug
still pagoda
due to TD's dropping, pugs ruining workshops and so on
high nacelle
can any tank take a picture of your stats please
warm plinth
We had a bug where the pillar on Galvazzt spawned inside the floor
So we couldn't see it until it was too late
still pagoda
i really want to push over 2k now
sick sentinel
Stand inside the floor and block it dummy
still pagoda
but this TD ruins it for that week
warm plinth
It was pretty cool
still pagoda
Gonna focus on my monk if it goes like this
warm plinth
We did learn that our VDH tank can survive 3 consume charge casts though 😂
sick sentinel
I had a neat bug in AD last week where I was snapping saurids with tricks and they didn’t move
Like for 30 seconds we were in combat with them I had all threat and they just didn’t move
warm plinth
That's dumb
still pagoda
warm plinth
I tanked a double saurid pack this week for a good 10 seconds
As a havoc DH at 8% HP
sick sentinel
Then I jumped down from snap point and they all immediately smoked our healer
still pagoda
Bugs for Azeroth
warm plinth
Blur, Blade Dance and Darkness ftw
still pagoda
what a great addon
warm plinth
Didn't die 🙂
sick sentinel
Would you believe me if I told you I have not timed a single tol dagor of any level this season lmao
still pagoda
i feel you
i did time +14 one time
and it was a fucking chore
https://raider.io/characters/eu/gordunni/Меммфетида
I just don't want to do TD at all
sick sentinel
My first attempted was a 16 week one which was a lul
still pagoda
SAVE ME FROM TD
still pagoda
wall pulls...
warm plinth
We've timed an 18 so far
still pagoda
Fun...