#protection
lusty grotto
trim lagoon
Hello
still pagoda
ion needs to make a new shit trinket in shadowlands for sure
@lusty grotto
new sporepod
amber siren
๐
ionic fern
Hello.
still pagoda
Hello
sullen drift
Is it worth the dps staying out for blobโs initial eye spawns to spell reflect the 4 tendies? Talking on like a +22 with dh, sin rogue, hunter comp
Scuffed the start of our underrot cause a dps went in too early and caught a pool/2 eyes. Brought up the question of if itโs even worth the 3 second wait
ionic fern
I usually just reflect 2 and let the DPS deal with the other ones. ๐
chilly brook
Is it normal to just get wrecked on Mythic Vex as the add tank as anything other than a DK/DH?
That is if you're keeping the ascendant alive as long as possible to beam adds?
ionic fern
Are you 2 or 3 tanking? We 3 tanked it with 1 on boss, 1 on lazer boy and 1 on the other adds.
And this was our damage taken:
1st is boss tank, 2nd is Ascendant tank and 3rd is "Rest of the adds" tank.
brittle owl
surviving the ascendant is 100% on your healers dispelling you properly
it can tickle or it can literally one shot you
mortal brook
2 dispells. at 6~8 stacks, then again at 6~8 stacks. youll never go beyond 8 stacks like that. if they're dispelling AFTER annihilation is over, its an unnecessary dispell. make sure they know
rancid berry
so I was having issues tanking a shrine earlier in the day, any tips to go against magic damage?
sweet summit
Kick/stun/los/outrange
brittle owl
almost all the magic damage in shrine is avoidable
sweet summit
You die if you facetank
rancid berry
okay, so grab aggro, stun, kick, LEAP
ionic fern
If your DPS do not know what "interrupt" is and what to actually use it on then yes.
You also have Fear/SR on top of the already mentioned options.
still pagoda
If your DPS do not know what "interrupt" is and what to actually use it on then yes.
Lower keys in a nutshell
ionic fern
They rarely are.
still pagoda
more to say
ionic fern
DPS players in general are not targeted by abilities in Shrine hence they don't bother to kick them ..even tho this means that you as a tank will probably die.
It's a stark contrast with ML..ML actually has casts that are targeted at DPS players and boy oh boy how fast they start interrupting.
It's like they have a code running in their mind
If target = Me, /Cast Interrupt
If target != Me, /no one cares.
rancid berry
the healer was like "you dont even have null as a minor, fucking noob tank"
even tho null would do 60k every 15seconds for 10seconds
which is literally nothing when dps don't interrupt
still pagoda
null is needed only in places with unavoidable spell damage
Zul in KR for example
at least that's what i learned over those 3 weeks
still pagoda
any spell damage*
amber siren
world first 
sick sentinel
Hey one question how long do I need to wait for me big burst cds as dh. My tank told me that I need to wait 5sec before I Meta etc.
ionic fern
Is that the one you have to find flying around at super-sonic speed? @amber siren
amber siren
i think you can do that, i just camped the spawn and pressed a macro every now and then while studying
big gamer brain
ionic fern
@sick sentinel depends on a lot of things ...including if the tank knows what he's doing or not..does he have Avatar/DS? Is he using them properly?
sick sentinel
I mean I died in last key 4x while in meta on aggro
ionic fern
As long as you let him charge in+ 1-2 GCD's for TC's/Revenge it shouldn't be a issue.
Never had issues with DH's ripping aggro off me unless they proc TD literally on pull.
๐
sick sentinel
But everything In using Iris and meta and going the kite
chilly brook
@ionic fern we're 2 tanking just feels like aids to be the ascendant tank as a BrM
ionic fern
Chances are it was just a bad prot warrior.
sick sentinel
I mean with 3.3k Rio he should be good
sick sentinel
He timed also some 21s
He said If u burst with more then 100k I canโt handle that go kite
sick sentinel
He used 3x tc in the last key ffs....
chilly brook
How tf
ionic fern
Anyways, if you are giving him some time to establish threat before going ham (be it 2-3seconds for Avatar+DS+TC+Revenge+TC etc) he shouldn't be losing aggro.
chilly brook
This man bought his io lmao
ionic fern
If you meta/iris as soon as you see him charge in then that's on you tho.
sick sentinel
i mean i was playing with a druid before there was no way that i got aggro for e.g on bigpull in AD.
but everytime with him a die and our mage too
ionic fern
Again, it's hard to say who did what wrong just by this discussion.
But in general warriors do not have aggro issues if played properly and the DPS does not go full ham in the first few globals.
chilly brook
Druid lightweight pumps in aoe
But like mwahi said prot honestly shouldn't have aggro issues unless undergeared
sick sentinel
but 9 cast of TC is a bit low for a full dungeon i have no clue about warrior thats why i am asking
sick sentinel
yes
sick sentinel
he said he dont need that
still pagoda
chilly brook
Lol
still pagoda
bullshit
ionic fern
Are you sure it was TC?
chilly brook
still pagoda
clap him to death
chilly brook
I'm telling you this man bought his io
ionic fern
There's 100% no way he would have gotten 3.3k R.io by not using clap.
So it probably was something else?
still pagoda
the only way a prot warr can be low on aggro is by not using TC
still pagoda
pretty much the same
but no problems outside of that
I just shockwave the pack if this happens
onyx vessel
you just look at them and just /laugh
ionic fern
Wait, what does "He used 3x tc in the last key ffs...." mean? What's 3x TC?
brittle owl
ah yes
still pagoda
not using tclap is like not abusing shimmerlancing
ionic fern
I am jebaited. 100% this can't be real.
brittle owl
i too do not use judgement on my paladin
ionic fern
๐
brittle owl
or fracture on my dh
onyx vessel
legit does 18k dmg sheet while avatar is up
brittle owl
or heartstrike on dk
orchid frigate
i had tclap bound to shift+e at first but almost got my arm injured
onyx vessel
2x revenge
ionic fern
@sick sentinel please..info..don't leave now.
onyx vessel
lul
sick sentinel
im uploading my log
still pagoda
brittle owl
still pagoda
we wanna see it
chilly brook
sick sentinel
i think 11 % vers is a bit low as prot?
brittle owl
maybe he's one of those rare heal warriors
chilly brook
No
brittle owl
vers % means nothing
strong forum
Vers 
still pagoda
you can run as low as you can as far as you're not doing +25's and higher
onyx vessel
i got 2%
chilly brook
Vers means literally 0 until 25
still pagoda
onyx vessel
still pagoda
i got 12%
strong forum
still pagoda
but that's just because best pieces i have are haste/verse and verse/crit atm
onyx vessel
if you see a prot warrior using full vers in a 15 they a pussy
brittle owl
they're most likely concave in the skull actually
onyx vessel
i mean you wont need a healer tbh
still pagoda
if you see a prot warrior using full vers in a 15 they a pussy
@onyx vessel
I just don't have any other pieces
onyx vessel
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brittle owl
you don't need a healer in a 15 full stop
still pagoda
running 20% crit, 29% haste, 12% verse and 31% mastery rn
onyx vessel
ik
orchid frigate
ehehe
onyx vessel
i dont need phys reduction and vers isnt gonna save the 0 magic reduction
when i die in keys its me dying cuz im trash and get hit by avoidable shit
git gud id guess fixes gear problems
strong forum
If that warri really isn't using TC he's the biggest boosted manki I'll ever see
Next to the feral im playing with
onyx vessel
feral is good for m+
still pagoda
next to all the shitty pugs i've seen
onyx vessel
shit rogue
strong forum
Yes, but he himself is boosted
still pagoda
and some guildies
strong forum
:)
brittle owl
hey nome
still pagoda
1.9k rio ele sham
47k DPS in +17 KR
brittle owl
hc nzoth p1 paladin
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/226301753086181377/710069646132248576/unknown.png
strong forum
He wouldn't have even gotten 2k io by himself now he's 3.2k
ionic fern
Can you link the log @sick sentinel ?
still pagoda
^
sick sentinel
i cant ๐ฆ my team captain dont want it
brittle owl
still pagoda
fuck team captain
sick sentinel
we are privat logging
strong forum
๐ค
ionic fern
๐
naive spear
๐
still pagoda
i'm secretly logging in groups that don't want me to
ionic fern
Aight, can you then link his damage breakdown + casts generally?
onyx vessel
private logging
ionic fern
As picture or w/e.
onyx vessel
still pagoda
was in one guild that was against logging outside of their private log list
strong forum
The overall
hidden plaza
pic and edit out names
still pagoda
I was doing public logs anyway
onyx vessel
gquit time
still pagoda
naive spear
still pagoda
gquit time [2]
onyx vessel
not really maybe top 10
strong forum
In a guild of pepegas private logging will be impossible
still pagoda
i get private logging for prog
@brittle owl
I don't get private logging for casual 3/X mythic guilds
brittle owl
for prog it makes sense to private log so people are less incentivized to whore
strong forum
Mwahi getting into big boi keys
still pagoda
early-early BFA
ionic fern
20 is not big boy. ๐ฆ
strong forum
But you're getting there
still pagoda
before i moved over to one of the good guilds here
brittle owl
what dungeon is that @sick sentinel
ionic fern
Regardless of a dungeon..54 casts of TC over the course of a dungeon is like AFK..i wonder what he was using instead.
cinder jackal
How did you guys find it 'easiest' to get pathing for >10 keys?
Just practice?
ionic fern
onyx vessel
i tried the 15 shrine last week it ended up being a 2hr 30min shit show
strong forum
Or dragon roar for "snap aggro"
onyx vessel
ionic fern
Mostly just practice yes @cinder jackal
strong forum
still pagoda
half of them struggle to get a 15 in weekly
@onyx vessel
Situation with my guild rn
brittle owl
brittle owl
pepehands
still pagoda
eh... It's good to get somewhat casual again, yet it is extremely painful at the same time
brittle owl
@sick sentinel don't leave us please ๐ข
onyx vessel
the shrine was clean untill i missed a pack going to spire before 1st boss
brittle owl
look i got you flowers ๐ฅ
strong forum
Most*
onyx vessel
i suck at interrupting
strong forum
Omg
still pagoda
brittle owl
melee
still pagoda
OMFG
brittle owl
onyx vessel
having melee interrupt is shitty
brittle owl
melee top damage after td
onyx vessel
WTF
brittle owl
onyx vessel
melee is normally my 3rd
ionic fern
I doubt it.
onyx vessel
td/tc #1 and 2
ionic fern
Without TC it has to be WAYYY lower.
onyx vessel
melee then ss
still pagoda
that's literally a huge boosted monkey here
strong forum
@sick sentinel a warri of 3k+ score should do 70-110k overall dps, just saying
onyx vessel
something i noticed as prot you melee really hard
ionic fern
AND SHOW US MORE PICTURES.
onyx vessel
same
orchid frigate
carrying guild gimps is fun!
onyx vessel
2 weapons
still pagoda
with only TD3, slacky pulls due to shitty DPS pugs and other shit
onyx vessel
so 50% of that dmg is from 2nd weapon
strong forum
Doesn't diminish the fact that melee is a big part of dps
onyx vessel
25%*
strong forum
Whats your argument
still pagoda
carrying guild gimps is fun!
@orchid frigate
I gave my +17 KR to guildies yesterday
onyx vessel
i lost trying to come back
still pagoda
will never give any keys to them
onyx vessel
orchid frigate
rip key
strong forum
Well boomy isn't there for dps in keys
still pagoda
can you imagine ele sham with 1.9k rio doing only 47k?
strong forum
1.9k isn't alot
onyx vessel
i can
strong forum
๐
still pagoda
and destro being lower than tank(this is normal since i didn't pull around his CD's, though he didn't say anything about this)
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onyx vessel
inconsistency is a problem with bad players
mostly saved by corruption
ive seen many hunters 3k io who dont cc/interrupt shit
onyx vessel
meanwhile a fury warrior without stormbolt is doing more cc/interrupts overall
just play hunter get carried by meta class
orchid frigate
๐ฎ
still pagoda
meanwhile a fury warrior without stormbolt is doing more cc/interrupts overall
Kek
like
onyx vessel
fuck stormbolt extra button
still pagoda
i don't run stormbolt as prot rn(though i should do probably)
and end up #1 on interrupts
mostly on damage spell casts though
still pagoda
details doesn't count stuns, fears and hard CC overall
onyx vessel
warstomp if you are chadwarrior
still pagoda
only interrupts
orchid frigate
stomp or bull rush would have been nice
gief
but then id have to play yuge race
still pagoda
warstomp if you are chadwarrior
I'm a rare breed of those ally players who're still left and play female spacegoats
onyx vessel
gross
orchid frigate
what do they have?
onyx vessel
nightelf.
orchid frigate
mhm
orchid frigate
some weeks its really good ๐
onyx vessel
humans racial
still pagoda
it doesn't make much difference as an oh shit button
onyx vessel
replaced by living action potion
still pagoda
neither as something proactive)
onyx vessel
still pagoda
same effect
but mass purge is nice for something like SotS with stupid pug DPS
who don't interrupt anything
well. Anyway i'm playing ally rn
on Russian server
At least Gordunni-EU(RU) is the second biggest ally server on EU
strong forum
Bugfix left discord
still pagoda
ethnic servers
@brittle owl
I've been playing on it since 2014
still pagoda
๐๏ธ
orchid frigate
vulpera.. changed my DK to it and almost instantly regretted it
still pagoda
vulpera.. changed my DK to it and almost instantly regretted it
?
still pagoda
what do you press if you arent using tclap
@onyx vessel
Release spirit
orchid frigate
haha
onyx vessel
i joinned a mythic nya group by accident
and saw someone with lingering sporepods
prot warrior
also using indom
i called him out for it and left
like if you need 2 shit things to "survive" reroll to a easier tank.
indom in SL pog indom in bfa you ok bud
ionic fern
Aww, he still hasn't come back with the juicy info. ๐ฆ
orchid frigate
indom?
ionic fern
Indomitable - increases max hp by 10%.
strong forum
He left discord mwahi, I'm thinking he was the warrior.
still pagoda
not worth it
onyx vessel
in sl it gets the rage spent healing gained shit like the bracers in legion
still pagoda
^
onyx vessel
that plus bracers for timewalking
still pagoda
it get's Manoroth Bloodletting Manacles effect
onyx vessel
still pagoda
all previous legendaries will now be disabled as legacy items
onyx vessel
pulls whole dungeon
brittle owl
they prob want us to use azerite armor and essences+neck for t/w now
onyx vessel
neck is prob disabled
still pagoda
azerite goes to hell to tho
onyx vessel
which in turn disables them
brittle owl
usable in timewalking
still pagoda
they didn't disable it yet
still pagoda
but quests don't drop azerite pieces and you don't get HoA while leveling
brittle owl
NECK GETS INSTA DELETED IN SL
still pagoda
or YEETed into a statstick like how it was with artifact weapons
orchid frigate
wonder if blizzard will pick up on the system on system criticism
they seem pretty stubborn
onyx vessel
to be fair timewalking dungeons are easy regradless
timewalking raids arent
drops 445 loot
harder then normal
onyx vessel
when my guild tried it they were all on shitty alts and basically healed the bosses tho
brittle owl
timewalking raids were all sorts of fucky in bfa with scaling
quaint yoke
Feels like nothing destroys me harder than Eye of Corruption >.>
sweet summit
Just move 4head, or just reflect it
quaint yoke
reflect eye of corruption? :o
brittle owl
or cloak dispel
quaint yoke
I thought reflect would end on the first hit
sweet summit
Nah i unequiped my cloak, games too easy with it on :^)
quaint yoke
Never actually tried coz it doesn't feel worth to reflect only 1 hit
still pagoda
Feels like nothing destroys me harder than Eye of Corruption >.>
EoC
Destroys
still pagoda
there will be nothing more punishing that low DPS pugs who don't interrupts spell casts
quaint yoke
King's Rest comes to mind
still pagoda
TFB is really worthy of reflect though
quaint yoke
Not really always an option to move out
still pagoda
and what wrecks you is probably something else
sweet summit
For me, the eye is rarely a problem unlesd i get some back to back spawns
still pagoda
^
still pagoda
i think i've found a really easy way to get fast rio for myself(since 1.7k can still net me possibility of not getting even into +14)
gonna just cycle my own key over 15's and 16's
and 17's
over and over again
upper violet
still pagoda
and then just go higher and higher ofc
strong forum
Easiest way to rio is getting 1 very high key ( compared to what you had done before) done, preferably with a premade group, and then feed off of the next weeks already high keys
We jumped from 2.1k to 2.9k in 1 week because we did 1 push from 17 to 21, and then snowballed off of the 20s of next week
Same thing applies to higher keys
still pagoda
thanks for advice
gonna try pushing my key into 18-19 territory then
anyway i'm already 468 and have somewhat acceptable corruption setup
strong forum
Even depleted 20s are more score than timed 18s. And depleted 21 is almost more score than timed 20
If that's your goal
still pagoda
i remember that from Legion and BFA S2
strong forum
Ye, we'll see people with 7-8k score I reckon
Maybe more
But then again, it's an arbitrary score on a 3rd party website, shouldn't worry too much about it
still pagoda
i'm just interested in pushing higher keys(just like was back in Legion while doing 21's and stuff)
rio is just a part of the process at that point
strong forum
Also a hint, the higher you go, the lesser score means something
still pagoda
because the highest key comes in place of it
strong forum
Not even
At a certain point you're not doing anything differently, it's just that person X has gotten a higher key done
You're not gonna notice a difference between a 4k and 5k dude
sick sentinel
Biggest difference is consistency and having a group with other extremely consistent people
strong forum
Yup
still pagoda
thank you for your advice
sick sentinel
Does warden sim the 6 second 50% damage increase?
and if it does, does it sync fang with it
sweet summit
@ionic fern
sweet summit
Rip
strong forum
It's been brought up a couple months ago, nobody seemed to care enough to implement it :hahaaa:
sick sentinel
Simcraft in general or general warrior apl
strong forum
Simc
strong forum
For dmg 420 EV
For surv 440 VR
sick sentinel
ye it's good
strong forum
At high ilvl and rank it can slap quite abit
wide harbor
im not using much corruption because my high ilvl pieces dont have it
strong forum
Anything that's not TD is middle of the pack at best
Except Ineffable Truth T1, that's top tier imo
strong forum
If you don't break 40, offensively kind of
strong forum
430 + socket and mindflay t2... Hmm
Sim it
Tbh
The ilvl really fucks up TA's dmg
It's very low
It needs high ilvl to pump
Cuz dmg corruptions scale with ilvl, except TD an EV as they're based off of HP
ionic fern
Jep, Warden major ain't implemented in SIMC. No one has really shown much interest in it so. ๐คท
sick sentinel
plux fix Kappa
still pagoda
DPS don't kick casts of witch-doctor adds like they're waiting specifically for hex and wipe the group
Healer blames me for "not being able to handle 2 packs"
autumn pendant
yeah you so bad
still pagoda
so bad that i make DPS stop kicking casts
still pagoda
it was a pack on stairs after Vol'kaal
with 2 assasins on top(which were not a problem judging by deathlog)
sweet summit
Oh i thought it was KR
still pagoda
no way to los here due to stairs being blocked by double animated guardian pack
sweet summit
What i usually do, is CC one of the docs and pull 1
The grab the 2nd one when the 1st one dies
still pagoda
CC is the usual option... Unless it is a +15 pug run
autumn pendant
I thought IT was KR too lol
still pagoda
we had really stupid rogue who didn't know how to pull off mobs in the middle
and died right after running into the pack
at least i've got to learn how to snap packs
I thought IT was KR too lol
@autumn pendant
In KR i don't have any questions
just LoS it and go on
autumn pendant
yea i get you
still pagoda
i do only 1 pack with hexers before going through obelisk to the third boss
and just pick up 2 small ones once last boss is dead
still pagoda
ye
i just do next obelisk after 3rd boss to zul
kill him
and then 2 packs on the bridge(the 3 mob ones)
and go to the last boss
blazing gale
Should I be using nzoth trinket + 475 Rezan or 460 vita for the 19/20/21 keys
or just fuck it go rezan vita? My healer is hpal
still pagoda
@sweet summit kinda like this
sweet summit
Why dont you do the 2nd big guy in 2nd boss room
sweet summit
Ye
still pagoda
pugs get hella scared by such pulls though
sweet summit
They dont?
still pagoda
but again, it is totally normal for them to wet their pants over 3 packs of blobs and golem]
blazing gale
I like to grab all 4 big guys in 1st pull
still pagoda
lower/mid key shenanigans. Here they will go mad over you pulling 9 blobs and 1 golem because "bursting hurts"
just don't prolong it ffs
stop DPS for 2 seconds
sweet summit
Why would you pull a golem with blobs, just do all blobs then both golems
blazing gale
Its actually easier to complete keys above 15 than below beecause more % of people know what are they doing
still pagoda
same goes for big pull on the beach in TD
Why would you pull a golem with blobs, just do all blobs then both golems
Thanks for hint btw
blazing gale
yesterday my hpal healed 12 stacks of bursting in boralus xd
still pagoda
How to scare lower key pugs even more
blazing gale
or 11 dont remember
sweet summit
You have full controll over when you pull, so just keep a mental timer for entomb
And you never get bad overlaps
still pagoda
i understand why pulling all blobs first is much better
i just keep heroic leap and intercept charges for entombs
goes relatively easy
it goes off, leap, use, go back
sweet summit
Thr player that gets entombed, goes into the coffin he is the closest to
So just game it
blazing gale
if u want to be extremaly save you can split blobs in 2 pulls for pugs it tends to work better
still pagoda
ye
the only thing is that pugs will just go mad over such pulls
i don't care myself
blobs barely do damage
sweet summit
Blobs dont do shit, bursting does
still pagoda
exactly
and if pugs can't stop dpsing for 2 seconds, it's entirely their problem
and their fuckup
usually i go safer and pull 9 and 8 blobs separately
due to this
amber siren
that's what i try to tell my horde guild but bursting is always the tanks fault apparently
orchid frigate
speaking of KR
in MDI they seem to exploit something that keeps 2nd boss from casting?
or have i dreamt up the whole thing?
mild ore
yeah
iirc if you instantly click the coffin after he casts entomb he bugs out and stops casting
strong forum
He however hits the tank for a fuckton
His melees are very hard, so not many tanks can actually tank him when he perma melees without any fires / drains going into the group
orchid frigate
ah ok
strong forum
On high keys he's basically orgozoa with 3-4 stacks of the debuff on you ( if you ever did mythic orgo)
proud ember
So I am getting close to M N'zoth
And I heard murmurs we have bad tim there as prot warriors
Confirm/deny?
mortal brook
nah, youll do great
strong forum
It's so late into the tier, tank choice doesn't matter for shit. There's plenty of warriors that have killed it without issues
mortal brook
neck and cloak resist only goin up too. TD5 no Thing next week \o/
mortal brook
nice work
still pagoda
being picky with DPS peeps makes wonders
mortal brook
beats runnin with the monday night once a weekers
still pagoda
Tuesday night for us, EU people
sweet summit
Weekly 15 no leaver keys ๐
mortal brook
or the worst. guild runs
proud ember
Shudder
still pagoda
like pick up the key and go
This is also the best way to bump up rio fast
or the worst. guild runs
RIP +17 KR
still pagoda
never gonna go with those people again
brittle owl
It's so late into the tier, tank choice doesn't matter for shit. There's plenty of warriors that have killed it without issues
it never mattered outside of top 50 guilds anyway
still pagoda
^
brittle owl
is grossly overexagerated
proud ember
I've ranted about that before
brittle owl
as pwarr in nyalotha you just gotta be smarter with your cd's
and maybe slap LPS if you have bad healers/bad healer comp for externals
the raid itself hits like a wet noodle
and the "dangerous" magic damage comes in the form of telegraphed nukes
proud ember
Shadar made me want to kill myself on a warrior
still pagoda
kek
brittle owl
what
still pagoda
i've just got myself another 60 rio
brittle owl
how
proud ember
On a bad day I was getting double dot and just didnt get healed even with SW up
still pagoda
Blame it on healers
proud ember
Like literally
If I dont go super uber panic mode on cooldowns
I will die to the dot alone
AND THEN EVEN I CAN DIE
brittle owl
i mean
still pagoda
i suppose they healed VDH's mostly
proud ember
They are used to healing a high crit brewmaster
Oh on my bdk I just tank the boss with the double dot for healing logs if I bring it to reclears LUL
brittle owl
if it is that much of an issue
still pagoda
and BDK if they play good
@brittle owl
Trying to find good BDK is like trying to find a needle in a haystack
brittle owl
like i said, just gotta be smart about your cd's ๐
proud ember
Me warrior, me hit things, smarts be for mages.
sweet summit
Good
sweet summit
Arcane?
brittle owl
mage in 8.0
still pagoda
all specs depending on the situation
brittle owl
sad
still pagoda
but mostly frost
still pagoda
mage in 8.0
@brittle owl
I was literally a buff bot on Fetid
brittle owl
arcane is prob the coolest fantasy for any class
still pagoda
ye
still pagoda
i played arcane on fetid and Mechatorkue
and liked it only on the former(though there i already had gear and not just hotswitching after moving from casual 3/8M guild to "Semi-hardcore" brute force type prog guild)
brittle owl
strong forum
1 button rotation ๐ช
still pagoda
it wasn't really a 1 button back then
strong forum
Oh shit I'm oom, evo, blast blast blast blast blast blast blast
still pagoda
more of a constant switch between 1 and 3
and burst setups
spec was relatively simple still
mortal brook
arcanes the chillest shit ever for grabbin all my heritage armors lol. missles to 110 pog
1 cast taps basically everything
brittle owl
Oh shit I'm oom, evo, blast blast blast blast blast blast blast
said the fucking tclapper every other gcd
mortal brook
big shears
still pagoda
bear?
brittle owl
lul
brittle owl
unironically bear being so weak is one of the harder to play tanks atm
mortal brook
i miss 7.2 baer D:
brittle owl
esp in m+
strong forum
I miss legion vdh.
mortal brook
bear fine now. it was FUCKING TRASH for 8.0 tho
brittle owl
bear and bdk are prolly the hardest tanks to grasp in keys
mortal brook
it got rebalanced but no one bothered to roll back to bear after the mass exodus, cuz theres no real incentive. its just so average
mortal brook
unlike prot war that got fixed into full imba for m+
brittle owl
moar pรผmps
issue is
there's always gonna be andybrew making the little sperg brewmasters think they're worth something in keys
still pagoda
well
mortal brook
missle on arcane mastery in slands \o/ even ezier leveling
brittle owl
can't wait for SL so i can level fully in legion
strong forum
Leveling
still pagoda
add that leveling itself will now take much less time
strong forum
Get a load of this guy
still pagoda
Leveling
@strong forum
I'll have to go through this in prepatch
mortal brook
gotta level. reference name
still pagoda
not leveling any chars rn cause i didn't decide whether i will move over to EU horde or not
Since the only char i'm willing to spend money for is my warrior
strong forum
Have you considered being rich?
mortal brook
i literally delete after getting the heritage mog, then start again
strong forum
Why a caster though, just play monk and dk, least time investment
brittle owl
just quests?
strong forum
Seems like a hassle
mortal brook
yarp
mortal brook
๐คท heritage mogs for ya
strong forum
I don't even play for 12hrs a week anymore
Can't imagine spending that time leveling tbh
Visions and assaults are bad enough
mortal brook
was closer to 17~19 before xp buff
mortal brook
reference points
brittle owl
that's an interesting dodge
still pagoda
mortal brook
heck man, aint desmephisto out here. just waitin out heckin coronas and bored lol
still pagoda
honestly, everything is not so bad for me so far
mortal brook
yes, well. I cant start my new job until the CDC tells the govt its okay to start ppl up, so my final job offer doesnt get a start date.
strong forum
Rip
mortal brook
SO HERE I AM LEVELING 10 heritage armors
strong forum
My company was worried about having to stop production, cuz that could literally wipe us out. So we did all we could to avoid having to shut down
So here I am working full time like usual, but mask.
Also have to desinfect everything everyday, and everytime someone else uses smth
fallow narwhal
guys
for m+
should i gem and ench for vers?
ive seen alot of prot warr going for vers
i got 40%haste and 12%vers
doing 18-20s
sweet summit
Haste
strong forum
Haste
You start going for vers if you're doing 25s
Below that it doesn't really help you as nothing hurts whatsoever
vagrant arrow
hi , Which abilities ineffable truth recovering? any idea?
grand drum
All abilities
still pagoda
just get one IT1 for prot
pretty comfortable thing to run
not great, not terrible
vagrant arrow
well i got gushing wounds and IT boots gushing is not worth on fortified
i am t rying IT and it procs well i just doing 21-22 keys
brittle owl
a single gushing isn't worth much in general
it's just a reaaaaly good
as in the best
way to fill up corruption budget
vagrant arrow
but i just wanna know which ability does it reduced when it procs ๐
strong forum
All of em
vagrant arrow
WA or somethin
strong forum
?
brittle owl
wut
vagrant arrow
or is it random
strong forum
It reduces all at the same time
amber siren
all of them
brittle owl
ALL
brittle owl
of them
vagrant arrow
ok thanks , understood finally ๐
hidden plaza
Does fireblood remove tear flesh from samh adds?
brittle owl
yes
hidden plaza
TY
orchid frigate
how can i help my friends improve in m+ without that i have to do everything (route, calling kicks etc)?
or is it more a mindset thing
feels exhausting that everything is on me
strong forum
Force them to tank and have them learn the mechanics through dying
placid oar
Hi guys, hope everyone is well.... Can i ask if my ilvl 475 Seal of Question Loyalties (FH ring) is actually still better than the same but ilvl 465 with corruption to increase versa source?
strong forum
But..you have to call everything
That's the reality of it unless they start caring on their own
That's how I have to fight through m+, I do all the brainwork and dps just follow along...
mortal brook
nice
amber siren
@placid oar if that's the best you've got in terms of corruption options then use the 465 but more damage is probably better if i remember the key levels you were doing didn't call for extra vers %
amber siren
im pretty sure he doesnt have true sight
placid oar
Thank you @amber siren ๐ I am currently running 36 corruption. Both my rings are without corruption but ilvl 475 ( Seal of Questionable Loyalties and Loop of pulsing veins)... I am still far off doing high keys but I have been practicing when I can. Managed to tank a couple of 18s today.
There is so much to learn as tank but it is pretty fun.
amber siren
no problem dude im glad youre enjoying it, it'll get easier in time for sure
still pagoda
I'm thinking of doing it like this to skip both storm ele and Sorn. This +18 gonna be pretty interesting
storm ele and Sorn seem like much bigger time sinks compared to 3 more 2-caster packs and one pack after 2nd boss
orchid frigate
i usually do that route
daring marlin
still pagoda
perfection in absurdity
frigid crag
What combo of Briny Barnacle (475), Lingering Sporepods (465) and Sigil of Warding (475) would you guys use for M+ tanking?
mortal brook
unfortunately you have two poor trinkets in that list
strong forum
Briny + sigil
sweet summit
id use sporepods and barnacle as im farming Atal Dazar and Waycrest for better trinekts
sigils?
spore would be more dps no?
mortal brook
strong forum
Idk, both sigil and sporepods suck ass
strong forum
Honestly, yeah, go sporepods + briny
sweet summit
idk if 10 ilvls is more dps
strong forum
fallow sable
Any thoughts on modular platinum plating trinket?
Got it in weekly chest (475). Not sure if its even worth trying out?
sweet summit
very very bad
fallow sable
Thought so. Just wanted to check XD
Well... thank you weekly chest for another useless 475 item.
sweet summit
still pagoda
rogue left after he died from tentacle slam on last boss of +18 SotS(run was pretty clean outside of this asshole move)
i still have +17 tho
which will still net me 100 rio if timed
loud steppe
So i read threw everything and i kinda get it but i also suck at reading and learning haha anyone mind personally teaching me?
main vault
There are videos on yt
loud steppe
yeah i watched them thats kinda how i got it kinda haha
main vault
A lot of tanking is just feel, best way to learn is to get in and do it
loud steppe
yeah idk if im doing my rotation right thats the thing haha i need some to let me know haha
tame garden
Log something and run it through wowanalyzer
ivory barn
I wish blizzard would implement something that punished people purposely leaving keys
chilly brook
@loud steppe you press your buttons on CD tbh
And it's hard to know if you're not doing things right without logs or examples
last loom
tried tanking my first duengon ever cant say it went very well
whats a good uptime on shieldblock/ignore pain?
chilly brook
I mean I could make an updated version of my 8.0 video guide
last loom
how much hps?
chilly brook
Dont worry about hps
still pagoda
^
chilly brook
Useless metric for prot warrior
chilly brook
If you have super high hps you're probably playing wrong
still pagoda
if your DPS interrupt casts, you're fine going all the way
last loom
so not really
chilly brook
And uptime on SB is also not a good metric either
still pagoda
hps is pointless to look at
chilly brook
You want your SB casts to be effective
still pagoda
the best metric is how bad your HP spikes
IMO
i've got few spikes in +18 SotS today
on spell caster packs
chilly brook
Its honestly a lot less complicated than people make it, just put SB up when you're actively tanking and mobs are swinging or shooting at you
Spend excess rage on IP
last loom
i see
last loom
i have a bad habbit of using revenge
chilly brook
If they're casting dont SB unless you're just wanting a bigger Shield Slam lol
last loom
my first duengon i tanked was 16 KR with a undergeared resto shaman
it was pretty rough
still pagoda
prot warr is really-really punishing in regards to mistakes
chilly brook
KR is rough in general on fort
still pagoda
but hey! It creates a pretty stable learning curve
chilly brook
Especially if you get more than one stack of the bleed
still pagoda
you learn to make LESS mistakes right away as each mistake can lead to you getting YEETed
last loom
playing td3
chilly brook
Looks like a lot of revenge casts
last loom
yeah probably
still pagoda
something like this @last loom