protection

[sick sentinel]

or a boomer

[sweet summit]

yes

[left hatch]

hes a coomer

can comfirm (;

[sweet summit]

im defo a coomer

[sick sentinel]

a gen xer?

[sweet summit]

im a zoomer lol

[sick sentinel]

are you younger than me

or older

[sweet summit]

i do not know

[sick sentinel]

are you above 20 🤔

[sweet summit]

i am younger than 20

[sick sentinel]

ok are you younger than 19

[sweet summit]

no

[sick sentinel]

so we the same

🤔

[sweet summit]

🤔

[sick sentinel]

fuckin zoomer

[sweet summit]

die zoomer die

[sick sentinel]

🔫

[strange tide]

I’m 32 what kind of oomer am I?

[left hatch]

the best kind ❤️

[sick sentinel]

miloomer

[sweet summit]

what kind of oomer am I?
LUL love it

[pure pond]

hey guys im wondering because guides say ILVL > stats. so for azerite gear do i go BiS traits on 465 or average traits on 480?

[sweet summit]

ilvl is king
only thing id drop ilvl for is your first DC trait, and only 15 ilvls then

[pure pond]

i have 3 pieces at 480, brought from the vendor for the random roll. i have 1 DC out the 3

[sweet summit]

1 DC is all you need

its all you want

you're set

[pale talon]

i have the same though, i switch to my 465 chest i running 3 bastion of might 3 overwelming power e 1 DC, but i have a 480 chest with average traits

but prefer the 3 bastion and 3 overwelming power then ilvl

so it realy depends on the traits

of the peices

[sick sentinel]

It really doesn’t depend on your traits

You shouldn’t drop 15 ilvl for BoM

[sweet summit]

mood

[sick sentinel]

Lmao

[pale talon]

@sick sentinel well in my case it is cuz 3 overwhelming is such pog tho

[sick sentinel]

Still shouldn’t do it

[brittle owl]

riiiiight

[sweet summit]

UF>OP tbh

fight me

[pale talon]

@sick sentinel u think so ?

[sick sentinel]

Yes

[brittle owl]

you're free to do whatever you feel like doing

is a game after all

[sick sentinel]

But do you boo boo

[brittle owl]

but that doesn't make your choice the better one

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[fierce bobcat]

just reactivated my acct breaking after 8.1 so everything is new now - if i want to slowly work toward keymaster, is there a certain dungeon and affix combo yall think tends to be easier to focus more on at higher keys when I start getting stuck?

[pale talon]

@brittle owl big poggers response

[brittle owl]

hey man

[sweet summit]

fortified, skittish, bursting

bis week

[brittle owl]

almost as poggers as someone pissing against a wind that dozens of people mathed out the direction of

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[fierce bobcat]

what dungeon do you think is easiest? i'm not pro enough to spontaneously do any dungeon and combo that pops up lol

[brittle owl]

temple of sethralis

basically a free key

mechagon workshop

that's a close second

[fierce bobcat]

sweet gonna write down some things to look for once i start getting stuck thanks!

[sweet summit]

ToS is Monka on explosives

[brittle owl]

only last boss doe

[sweet summit]

yeh

[brittle owl]

and i know for a fact

[sick sentinel]

it's not that bad

[brittle owl]

you can wipe 3 times there and still time it in a 17

[sick sentinel]

You just assign world markers

[brittle owl]

get out with your coordinated group shit

real men pug

[sick sentinel]

what?

[fierce bobcat]

lol

[sick sentinel]

Just put markers down with keybinds

I don't have a group

You just quickly call out

x here

this guy there

I got here

[fierce bobcat]

yall can pug past +15?

[sweet summit]

oh yea

[brittle owl]

whooosh

[sick sentinel]

whoosh

[fierce bobcat]

fug got some work to do lol

[sick sentinel]

I pug all my keys

and the highest I've done are 22/23s

It's getting very very hard tho

to pug them

Like it's difficult playing with a different person each time

[fierce bobcat]

i got up to 14 before breaking, should've just finished it but they made gear catchup easier at least

[brittle owl]

ya about that

gl hf farming essences fam

👌

[chilly brook]

3 more days and I have rank 3 lucid

Funny thing is I think I'm gonna reroll to that wheelchair spec called ret

[mortal brook]

ret comin through

👨‍🦽

[chilly brook]

I actually really enjoy it in dungeons

Just hate the process of getting in them

[brittle owl]

ret pumps

💪

[oblique garnet]

Just level 2nd warrior

[brittle owl]

bruh

this ain't shadowlands yet

[oblique garnet]

I know but i got bored and started leveling one

It takes like less than a day to get to 120

[chilly brook]

I mean my ret is already 120

[sick sentinel]

late can I have stormforged

thanks

[graceful cobalt]

One Question i have Furions sword 460 and from Carapace the Mace on 470 wich is better

[sweet summit]

sim for damage
most likely 470 tho

[short kindle]

is the avoidance from ahste corruption any good?

[sweet summit]

pretty bad

[short kindle]

aight ill skip that one then, ty

[west kayak]

So I just got another ring with the Rank 3 Haste proc... Do those stack?

[sweet summit]

you get more haste when it procs

[west kayak]

Granted I will most likely have to choose one or the other as I have boots with Rank 3 TD.

[sick sentinel]

I got buns

[rigid stream]

I got this, clense the weapon from wraithon yea?

[strong forum]

yes

[brittle owl]

yes

[sweet summit]

yes

[rigid stream]

is there another corruption to be on the look out for? Only m+, to pair with r3 TD?

another TD?

[sick sentinel]

yes

the more td the better

right now if you're rank 17 cape

you can get tier 5 td

[lusty grotto]

feelsbadman

[sick sentinel]

under 60 corruption

😆

[sweet summit]

POG NIMCHIP

[rigid stream]

hit 120 end of last week, so im only rank 8, but that is why I asked, so I can be on the hunt for it. Thank you kyothi

[lusty grotto]

get fucked by rng here, get fucked by rng in classic

world of rngcraft

[wraith hemlock]

Filthy transfusion or Iron Fortress?

[west kayak]

T5 TD (125) with Rank 17 Cloak (56) would be 69 (hehe) Corruption.

[sweet summit]

IF if ur shield is "low" ilvl

[wraith hemlock]

i'm a simple casual, is 455 considered regular, low or shit?

[sweet summit]

low

so IF

[wraith hemlock]

roger, i'm thankful

[rigid stream]

whats a good 4th ess for me to use untill i get C/S? I have VOP major, lucid, and aegis in right now. filler is touch of the everlasting

I was going to put null in, but i wanted to get you experts' opinion

[mortal brook]

warden for touch replacement

[sick sentinel]

I'm running tier 7 TD

for wq and daily stuff

Loving one shotting alliance

1 td proc critted 900k

xd

[rigid stream]

thanks thesteve

[mortal brook]

900k even with the 40% tank dmg suppress in pvp? that's hot

or is corruption dmg not suppressed? O.o

[dark lark]

good morning all. yet another week where weekly chest item and purchased azerite are both garbage. 475 shorting bit band (the nature damage proc mechagon ring) with mastery amp and breastplate of arterial protection

[sick sentinel]

it is reduced

but tier 7 td is tier 7 td

lol

and last stand proc

rally

[mortal brook]

nice

[chilly brook]

@lusty grotto that's why you open your box in arms

[sweet summit]

but but shield

[chilly brook]

And how many times have you actually gotten a shield out of your box?

[sweet summit]

one time, last season when i open it in wrong loot spec :(

[chilly brook]

Lol

[dark lark]

last season i got the crit haste ML shield in week 1

😦

[chilly brook]

Tbh raids are your best shot at shields

Or just spamming the same m+

[sweet summit]

but m+ only giv 465 :(

and ilgy does not want to give me a shield

[chilly brook]

And neither does your box

[sweet summit]

[dark lark]

oof

[chilly brook]

I might just cave and start doing prot pally just to gear my ret

[sweet summit]

thats how i gear all my alts ;)

[chilly brook]

I'm just too impatient

[short kindle]

new to tanking, how do you spell reflect paranoia? jsut cast it before nzoth finishes casting it?

[chilly brook]

Just bubble it 4head

😛

[undone sun]

https://i.imgur.com/NvycMnB.png

[short kindle]

aah

ty

[oblique garnet]

@sick sentinel who dis?

[sick sentinel]

give stormforge

[undone sun]

🤣

[oblique garnet]

Again

Who dis

[sick sentinel]

gib

storm

[oblique garnet]

Mute perhaps?

[undone sun]

[sick sentinel]

mwahi is a game

r

he says

storm

[sweet summit]

giv de man yellow

[sick sentinel]

^

[oblique garnet]

No

[sweet summit]

maybe next time ):

[oblique garnet]

[sick sentinel]

https://prnt.sc/rq9hrb

pog

My vers set

getting bigger

[sweet summit]

BIG VERS

[sick sentinel]

Two rank 3 Surgings

2 source gain vers %s

1 more rank 1 surging

[formal meadow]

quick question

[dark lark]

are we going big on vers now? thought haste and expedient was the priority

[formal meadow]

do we delay using abilities if higher priority ones are almost off CD?

[sweet summit]

ABC, always be casting

[sick sentinel]

expedient was really never aimed for

more like TD

[sweet summit]

TD slaps

[sick sentinel]

Big vers is meant only for keys like 23+s

to help healer

[formal meadow]

TD slaps
@sweet summit TD?

[sick sentinel]

twilight def

dev

[dark lark]

twilight devastation

[sweet summit]

yes, that

[distant crystal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/292760839830634516/694574783714557983/unknown.png

🤔

[sick sentinel]

DUDE THAT'S POG

[distant crystal]

besides lording it over the dh's in my guild

[sick sentinel]

Vision set is increasing

[distant crystal]

do i rock?

[sweet summit]

fang PUMPS

[distant crystal]

was thinking about binding it into shockwave so i don't get slapped during channel

[formal meadow]

oh i thought that he was responding to me lol

do we delay using abilities if higher priority ones are almost off CD?
@formal meadow about this

[sweet summit]

oh, sorry :p

[distant crystal]

naw

always be casting

is true for melee/tanks too

[strong forum]

unluck

[red dock]

What would you guys roll? Chest is 465

Rest 480

Helm?

[sharp lotus]

why would you roll helm

[strong forum]

hard question tbh

[red dock]

I do mosqtly M+, figureed BoM was pretty huge

[sweet summit]

are you able to get a 480 chest/nzoth head from raid?

[red dock]

No

Raid with my rogue

[distant crystal]

hc nz'oth is p obtainable

via pug

[red dock]

That might be doable yeah

[distant crystal]

i would roll chest

[sweet summit]

ye you can pug that, and feed your gambling addiction on chest

[red dock]

Okay sounds good

[distant crystal]

who knows, maybe you get pog ashvane or mechagon chest

idk which is even better these days

feel like mechagon cuz predictable

[red dock]

whomp

[sweet summit]

BIG FURY CHEST

[strong forum]

bfi + blightborne

[sick sentinel]

rip

[distant crystal]

bis fury

[strong forum]

but ye, rip

[distant crystal]

silver lining yo

[red dock]

yeah its no biggie Ill keep lol

[sweet summit]

BBI is large tho

[red dock]

Not better than BoM/HoD though right?

[sweet summit]

so thats nice

[red dock]

Could sim

[sweet summit]

ilvl>bom

[strong forum]

sim, but its not that bad

[distant crystal]

it's prob better single target dps

even as prot

bbi bfi slaps

[red dock]

alright sounds good, ty guys

[distant crystal]

ah damn fang is on gcd

[strong forum]

like most trinkets

[distant crystal]

like almost 0 trinkets

it's just cause it's a channel

[sweet summit]

isnt like almost all channel trinkets on the gcd?

[strong forum]

well dmg trinkets are on GCD mostly

[distant crystal]

how many channel trinkets exist lol

[strong forum]

2 :hehe:

[sweet summit]

i know of fang and cyclo

[distant crystal]

font!

[sweet summit]

font!

3!

[distant crystal]

hands up!

[strong forum]

font 🤥

[distant crystal]

i bet a juicy font forge

is p good w/ lucid major in keys

you and your mage can handsup together

before the gigapulls

[warm plinth]

👋

[formal meadow]

do we delay using abilities if higher priority ones are almost off CD?

[mortal brook]

?

[formal meadow]

eg: shield slam is 1/2 secs off do we TC?

[mortal brook]

i wouldnt use deva but TC is a generator so use it

[formal meadow]

what about revenge?

[dark lark]

almost only when it procs

and it's below thunder clap in priority

[lusty grotto]

@chilly brook i got a shield 2 weeks ago

i dont delay shit

i press what's available

why would you delay pressing abilities

wasting half a gcd

[sweet summit]

always be casting

is a rule i live by

[formal meadow]

alright

was thinking too much

[dark lark]

you could play BDK

[sweet summit]

i do play bdk

[formal meadow]

i like shield slaming

[sick sentinel]

https://prnt.sc/rqa7a3

LMAO

[lusty grotto]

sir

[sweet summit]

what the FUCK

[sick sentinel]

without lucid and navi proc

🤧

[lusty grotto]

did you know you can paste screenshots here

[sick sentinel]

I know

[lusty grotto]

instead of uploading to an alternate site

i see

[sick sentinel]

It's easier

[strong forum]

its does it automatically

[sick sentinel]

because it auto links and connects

[chilly brook]

@lusty grotto must be nice to have the game not hate you

[lusty grotto]

its easier to upload to another site? then put the url here besides pasting in the chat?

[sick sentinel]

bro

read

[lusty grotto]

shaking

my

head

[sick sentinel]

use your eyeballs

[lusty grotto]

CTRL + V

[strong forum]

nim is trolling

kekw

[lusty grotto]

how is that easier than CTRL + V

[sick sentinel]

I am too

[lusty grotto]

or SHIFT + INSERT

[undone sun]

sharex does it automatically

[lusty grotto]

hello

[undone sun]

the uploading the is, and copying to clipboard

[undone sun]

so there's literally no extra step

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dark lark]

is that your vers level

[sick sentinel]

^

ye it is

It can go to 110%

but I didn't have navi or lucid proc

[dark lark]

link your armory?

[sweet summit]

might as well play ftd vdh tbh lmfao

[dark lark]

youre ithunderclap right

[sick sentinel]

the armor won't show

FTD vhdh?

vdh*

[sweet summit]

feed the demon, vengence demon hunter

0 damage but you can die

[lusty grotto]

please dont ask him to link anything else, he will do 3 steps before he realizes he can just paste stuff

[undone sun]

🤦‍♂️

ok nim

[lusty grotto]

thyme how dare you not let me be me

[strong forum]

https://i.imgur.com/zULYkyi.png

lemme upload stuff real quick

oh wait, its the same program

[sweet summit]

stop, my brain hurts

[sick sentinel]

I have too much surging

[undone sun]

ez https://i.imgur.com/inwQgnm.png

[sick sentinel]

I need more vers %

[lusty grotto]

but why

why thyme

[undone sun]

convenience

[lusty grotto]

i mean

windowskey + shift + s.... then CTRL V here?

is not easy enough?

[strong forum]

thats 3 buttons

[undone sun]

short term easy

vs long term easy

[strong forum]

with the program its only 1 button

[lusty grotto]

why are you saving snippets from WoW though

lmao

[undone sun]

well, you can set it to whatever keybind you want

[lusty grotto]

if there's something built in

why install some random bloatware

fuck that

[sweet summit]

[strong forum]

cuz it saves it

[undone sun]

sharex is fantastic, no way is in considered bloat ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lusty grotto]

Windows Key + Shift + S for life

literally no reason to install it

[strong forum]

except it saves the screenshots

in organized folders

[lusty grotto]

why do you want to save screenshots

[undone sun]

saves, history for searching, automation

¯_(ツ)_/¯

becaus

it's useful

[lusty grotto]

hoarders

[lusty grotto]

yall are hoarders

[undone sun]

screenshots aren't always just one and done

like you

[strong forum]

i still have my screenshots from all progress memes

[lusty grotto]

screenshots are only worth keeping in the clipboard and never looked at again

stop the hoarding

[strong forum]

factually wrong

[lusty grotto]

except for the very specific example of my beautiful warrior's face and selfies

and food brand

[strong forum]

or stuff like this

[lusty grotto]

well i mean you can just do that with windows

[strong forum]

except you have to do it again

[lusty grotto]

enhance

[strong forum]

and again

and again

when i posted old pics

and can save my DPS meter superiority

[lusty grotto]

but logs exist

why have it on a screenshot

[strong forum]

why log m+

[lusty grotto]

why not log M+

[south lantern]

Is ruinous bolt complete garbage?

[strong forum]

yes

[warm plinth]

Yes

[south lantern]

Like utter shit?

[warm plinth]

Yes

[lusty grotto]

though to be fair, logging M+ is an extra step

[strong forum]

ever since they nerfed it to ST its literal dog

[lusty grotto]

😉

[strong forum]

its pointless 99/100 times

aswell 🙂

[lusty grotto]

except when you wanna flex

[strong forum]

then you show the screenshot

😏

[lusty grotto]

ok ok ill give you that one

[strong forum]

😼

[lusty grotto]

but thyme is on thymeout

[:

🚪 🏃‍♂️

[sick sentinel]

so on raden

do you want to not use mitigation

for the hit

[strong forum]

yes

[sick sentinel]

kk good

because I'm secretly 3rd tanking

with rank 7 td

here we go

time to rip threat

[strong forum]

thats why prot war is so good vs him, you can choose not to midigate

[sick sentinel]

He does no damage. It’s annoying when you are trying to take more damage tbh

I have to turn my back and let him give me a good whack

[lusty grotto]

have you tried removing your pants

[dark lark]

A good whack you say

[lusty grotto]

huehue vanilla joke

huehue

[sweet summit]

[lusty grotto]

🚪 🏃‍♂️

[dark lark]

👌 👈

[lusty grotto]

whoa take me to dinner first

[dark lark]

🤏 👈

[lusty grotto]

just the tip?

[dark lark]

👍 -> ✊

[lusty grotto]

[analog swift]

hola homies

does anybody here run % haste from all sources over TD in M+?

[lusty grotto]

negative

[analog swift]

but like

I have x2 overwhelming power

and MS

and i want to be original

and different

and stream

and invite lots of annoying questions to the discord

[lusty grotto]

have you tried Leech then?

[sweet summit]

TD owns

[analog swift]

but what about haste caps

[sweet summit]

no caps to worry about

[analog swift]

but naowh said

[sweet summit]

never enough haste

[analog swift]

hit 202% in a vision the other day, blood rite is insane

[sweet summit]

still not enough

[sick sentinel]

man

4 thing from beyonds instantly

Didn't even get to proc td

[dark lark]

at that corruption level i'd imagine they're sprinting at you like a linebacker

[chilly brook]

Who tf said there was a haste cap lmao

[sweet summit]

naowh said it dude smh

[opal igloo]

whats the opinion on a rank 2 ineffable truth for m+? how much of a difference in cd reduction does it make?

[chilly brook]

Who tf is that

[sick sentinel]

a mdi tnak

tank

[chilly brook]

Innefible is bad

[sweet summit]

some washed up EU prot player

ineffable decent

[dark lark]

win cups and blizzcon and race to world first, be washed up

[sweet summit]

he even won race to world first nya

[undone sun]

could play at a high level, but still know nothing

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[chilly brook]

Being world first doesn't make you right

[limpid pawn]

got 475 razdunks twice now

wtf

[chilly brook]

It just makes you world first

[fathom timber]

https://i.imgur.com/QDVh794.png

[sick sentinel]

yikes

[fathom timber]

i mean im equipping it anyway but is this wep any good

[sick sentinel]

only good on st

pretty bad on aoe

[dark lark]

i CoUld CaRrY LiMiT tO wOrLd FiRsT iF ThEy GaVe Me A cHaNcE

[chilly brook]

To be fair

[undone sun]

no one said that

[prisma gorge]

isnt it like group effort?

[undone sun]

🤔

yes

[fathom timber]

i mean it replaces a 445 faralos

[sweet summit]

thats a yuge upgrade

[chilly brook]

Being world first tank doesn't require you to know everything about the class

[lusty grotto]

big upgrade

[chilly brook]

You just have to know when to use mitigation and how best not to die

[lusty grotto]

just cleanse it if you dont need the extra corruption

griff

dont diss naowh

[chilly brook]

@fathom timber Servant Splitter bis single target and EV offsets the loss in aoe

[limpid pawn]

yeah, i'd say there are not huge differences in like top 100 guild tanks for the most part

[lusty grotto]

he was the only fucking warrior to gear correctly back in s2

jovrak is replacing a 445

[fathom timber]

i have EV 2, and thats all i have so that makes it 3

[lusty grotto]

you dont have to give him specifics

[chilly brook]

Tf you mean gear correctly

[lusty grotto]

he needs to fucking equip that shit instantly

[sweet summit]

nim, elaborate please

on the season 2 gear thing

[lusty grotto]

better weapon increases damage done by your abilities

oh

well back in s2

[chilly brook]

S2 was gear ilvl and damage

[lusty grotto]

there was this dumb fuck warrior

that was doing LEECH

and everyone else followed

[sweet summit]

naowh is doing that now

[strong forum]

uuh

[lusty grotto]

his name starts with

nerf

then naowh geared correctly

and obliterated them

[sweet summit]

naowh is a leechwore atm

[strong forum]

Naowh is thankfully gearing away from leech now

[dark lark]

naowh's fucked around with leech too

[strong forum]

hes going for vers now

[sweet summit]

oh really?

[strong forum]

like a good boi

[chilly brook]

But everyone here blasted leech builds in s2

[strong forum]

I DIDNT

[undone sun]

what?

[lusty grotto]

probably meme'ing

[dark lark]

the thing is, naowh plays 12 hours a day and has time to actually test and feel out all the different builds

[undone sun]

that's a bold statement

while also incorrect

[strong forum]

i had full crit haste with 5 sockets in s2 i was good boi

[chilly brook]

By blasted I mean making fun of

[strong forum]

:angery:

ah

say that then

[undone sun]

ok

phrasing

ffs

[dark lark]

and eventually end up on a conclusion that crit haste, or leech, or vers are good for him in his specific scenarios

it's just that all his viewers just see what he's doing and copy it for their 15s

(or lower)

[chilly brook]

You've never heard the phrase "putting on blast" wadu hek?

[lusty grotto]

he could also be memeeing

[strong forum]

putting on blast yes

[undone sun]

yes

[strong forum]

but blasting leech

is different

[undone sun]

^

[lusty grotto]

there's also the fact

that leech now

[chilly brook]

I've never heard "blasting" or "blasted" used as a term for running something

[lusty grotto]

might actually have SOME relevance due to how damage scales

[strong forum]

cuz youre old

[lusty grotto]

back in s2... it wasn't

[chilly brook]

True 24 is basically 40

[undone sun]

doubtful

[dark lark]

context: "im blasting" as in doing dps; vs "getting blasted"

[undone sun]

even at the end of legion, leech wasn't valuable

[lusty grotto]

yeah that's true

[strong forum]

RN its only decent if you can couple it with big pulls, outside of big pulls its useless

aka vs bosses / the actual dangerous stuff

[undone sun]

more niche than ever being considerable

[lusty grotto]

my money is on he's meme'ing

[strong forum]

who even

naowh?

he was serious about it

[lusty grotto]

ye

[strong forum]

for a while

stacked leech gear

[lusty grotto]

the best trolls are the most serious

[strong forum]

leech enchant

and swore that he needed 40% leech in lucid

to survive

[lusty grotto]

could still be meme'ing

[strong forum]

when in reality he needed vers, cuz 40% of 70k dps on 3 adds aint shit if they blast your booty hole

[chilly brook]

Or he's just wrong

Or rather was just wrong

[dark lark]

He's stacking vers now

[strong forum]

yes

[lusty grotto]

i mean why would he make a gigantic U-turn

[strong forum]

cuz hes getting beaten by Andy and Nerf

hard

[lusty grotto]

literally the 1 warrior that didn't fucking go leech, goes leech?

that says a lot

[strong forum]

(he ran siphoning for a while in s2 too)

and in s3

[lusty grotto]

for a short while

[chilly brook]

It's really not that far fetched

[lusty grotto]

i mean we're talking about streamers, who log out with the most random shit so that people that armory them get bamboozled

[chilly brook]

A lot of stupid ideas get thrown out in the top end of raiding

[lusty grotto]

were not talking about raiding

[strong forum]

na im talking from watching his stream

[chilly brook]

'member Sco saying prot was literally unplayable?

[strong forum]

picks indomitable

[lusty grotto]

griff sco hasnt been relevant in YEARS

[chilly brook]

And I get that you're not specifically talking about raiding

[lusty grotto]

nono

[chilly brook]

Bruh he was a world first player for most of this xpac

[lusty grotto]

naowh is a mythic plus war

were NOT talking about raiding at all

[chilly brook]

I know....

My point is just because someone is at the top doesn't mean stupid shit doesn't get thrown out there

[strong forum]

didnt he even only get into top tier raiding cuz he was good in m+ without alot of raid experience? like he came out of nowhere right?

[fathom timber]

is it worth upgrading azerite gear from 435 to 465 if i lose DC? gonna assume yeah

[lusty grotto]

well yeah i guess @chilly brook

[strong forum]

tough question

prolly

maybe not

[sweet summit]

do you not have any DC available on the other pieces?

[fathom timber]

no

[sick sentinel]

the perfect vers % peace is 250k on some server and gallywix doesn't payout until this sunday cry

[dark lark]

he was brought into limit originally to dps as dk, during PTR max saw that he was a good fit as a tank and so he tanked

[sweet summit]

id take 30 ilvls over DC

[lusty grotto]

id take the 465 too

[strong forum]

well he was in method in Uldir, Limit in BoD, EP i cant remember where

[chilly brook]

Like I don't think it's out of the question that some healers even at the top would push prot warriors to try more self sustain builds

[dark lark]

yeah he was dps in uldir and bod

ep he was with future as fury

[strong forum]

my question is

did he raid top end before bfa

at all

[dark lark]

i didnt follow during legion

[lusty grotto]

i didnt even know naowh existed before bfa

[strong forum]

legion i only know him cuz of m+, what eventually he got known for, but no idea about him raiding

[lusty grotto]

because im not a streamer dick sucker

😉

also watching streams is hella boring

[strong forum]

for you

[lusty grotto]

why watch it when you can play it

[strong forum]

i enjoy watching people better than me play and learn from em

[lusty grotto]

im exagerating

i watch jb from time to time

when im really bored

[strong forum]

for the same reason people watch other stuff

entertainment

whilst doing nothing

[dark lark]

i already exhausted my list of shows

[strong forum]

i dont want to play

[chilly brook]

And to be completely honest people can experiment with different builds and come to the conclusion that certain things are better based off of their subjective experience without actually comparing damage intake and other factors

[strong forum]

but i like watching

[lusty grotto]

wheres the stupid bait emoji in skyhold christ

[south lantern]

So 3x bastion of might is absolutely essential right?

[strong forum]

^

[chilly brook]

Essential non

[south lantern]

3x bastion, 2x brace for impact and 1 dc?

[strong forum]

essential not really, but recommended

[chilly brook]

Very highly recommended

[strong forum]

3x bom 1x dc 2x X

[south lantern]

0x iron fortress?

[strong forum]

2x X

[south lantern]

Iron fortress bad?

[strong forum]

no

[south lantern]

What is X?

[lusty grotto]

bro

there's a guide

[strong forum]

whatever you want it to be

[stark ruin]

It's good

[lusty grotto]

in icy veins

[sweet summit]

anything

[lusty grotto]

its really good

[sweet summit]

thats not BS or CR

[lusty grotto]

it'll tell you this stuff

[sweet summit]

nuke BS

[south lantern]

How about the revenge one?

[strong forum]

bad

[chilly brook]

Revenge one is ok

Bad compared to other prot options

[lusty grotto]

wait who writes the icy veins guide now that marok took a break

[dark lark]

mwahi

[sweet summit]

mwahi

[lusty grotto]

oh

[strong forum]

mwahi

[lusty grotto]

well TO ICY VEINS YOU GO @south lantern

[jaunty aspen]

i kinda like HoD

[sweet summit]

HoD is very good

[chilly brook]

None of our prot specific traits lack worth, just some are way better than others

[south lantern]

I already read it. It says 3x bastion, 2x brace for impact and 1x dc

[sweet summit]

thats good

[south lantern]

It ranks iron fortress low

[sweet summit]

its good

[lusty grotto]

last time i checked, there was a ranking for traits

[chilly brook]

I like IF

[south lantern]

Right and IF is low

[jaunty aspen]

bfi i would take for raiding

[lusty grotto]

IF is low compared to our other traits, but not to anything else

do you get it?

[chilly brook]

Low comparative to other prot specific traits

[south lantern]

Revenge ranked the worst

[lusty grotto]

miikey are you following?

[chilly brook]

But still has worth

[jaunty aspen]

if isnt bad in myth+

[south lantern]

Ruinous bolt not even ranked

[strong forum]

cuz its dogshit

[lusty grotto]

it seems youre writing

and not reading

[south lantern]

I am reading

[chilly brook]

Facts

[lusty grotto]

ruinous bolt IS NOT PROT SPECIFIC

[south lantern]

I don’t care if it’s bad compared to everything else. If it’s bad compared to everything else, it’s bad to me

[lusty grotto]

so obviously its not gonna be in there because its also dogshit

[south lantern]

That’s not min maxing

[chilly brook]

All prot traits are worth taking, but not all prot specific traits are created equal.

[jaunty aspen]

what are you building for=?

[chilly brook]

Does that make sense?

[lusty grotto]

oh good luck min maxing in BFA

[south lantern]

Can’t be happy with having IF when there is a piece that has brace for impact out there.

[lusty grotto]

that'll go well for ya

[south lantern]

I min maxed on my warlock.

[lusty grotto]

K

excellent

[chilly brook]

IF is better for m+ than BFI imo

[south lantern]

I have 3 fp 2 Rh and 1 cc

[jaunty aspen]

I find IF better in myth+ than Bfi

[south lantern]

So don’t tell me it’s hard

[lusty grotto]

did you farm titanforges too?

[south lantern]

It’s not

[sweet summit]

if you wanna min-max, mythic nzoth, mythic carapace and prob mecha chest is bis

[lusty grotto]

do you have TD3?

[south lantern]

There is a droptomizer for a reason.

[lusty grotto]

do you rather not wear anything but the top?

[chilly brook]

BFI is no doubt better than IF in raid but not in m+

[strong forum]

nim is going off

[south lantern]

Yeah, toxic.

[lusty grotto]

i can detect autism really well

[strong forum]

not really

[south lantern]

Not constructive conversation.

I’m ignoring him from here on out.

[strong forum]

well youre not really engaging either

[lusty grotto]

im not sure why you want constructive conversation when you already said you dont want to know about anything but the top

[chilly brook]

You dont even understand why traits are valuable and you're being willfully ignorant because something isn't the "best" so dont even start on being toxic

[south lantern]

So anyways nzoth, carapace

[lusty grotto]

i mean fuck it, just throw your gear on the trash and wait aim for the best

[sweet summit]

you pick the best out of what you have, if youre not happy with what you have. get something better :) ez

[south lantern]

Will get everyone optimal azerite

[chilly brook]

No

[sweet summit]

nop

[chilly brook]

Not everyone lmao

[south lantern]

Heroic nzoth and carapace easy to farm and use bonus rolls

[chilly brook]

But it won't get everyone optimal azerite lmao

[lusty grotto]

well im glad im getting toxic chip out 😎

[strong forum]

its not bis for everyone

[cinder pasture]

Nah, you want the best you better do mythic..Not heroic 😛

[chilly brook]

Considering not every class or spec has bis traits in raid pieces this tier

And some traits lose value in raid compared to m+

[jaunty aspen]

bis gear also depends on what content you are aiming for

[lusty grotto]

min maxing bros

[sweet summit]

nim

[chilly brook]

This is the biggest PEPEGA I've seen

[lusty grotto]

hey this is what i do best

[jaunty aspen]

min maxin means carrying a lot of gear around

[lusty grotto]

you're mistaken argometh, according to him ONLY THE BEST

[south lantern]

I’m 3/12 mythic I’m not bad.

I’m not good

But not bad

[lusty grotto]

weird flex but ok

[chilly brook]

So you've done the puggable content congrats

[south lantern]

Yup and that’s why I’m here for help

[chilly brook]

Except you clearly dont want it

[sweet summit]

nim you 8/8 BWL yet?

[lusty grotto]

since week 1

[south lantern]

Well I don’t respond to toxic very well

[sweet summit]

pogU

big gamer

[south lantern]

Toxic doesn’t help people improve

[chilly brook]

No one was toxic until you started disregarding what people said

[lusty grotto]

Toxicchip is back boys

[south lantern]

That’s kind of a narcissistic statement. “I’m toxic because you pissed me off”

[strong forum]

we literally said 3x bom 1x dc 2x X ( x being whatever ) and then you went on with stuff that was covered in the guide

[lusty grotto]

uh oh griff you're gonna be added to ignore lmao

[strong forum]

and because it seemed like you refused to understand, it went down south

[chilly brook]

And started on a tangent of "it's not the best in this list so I dont even want it or care what you have to say about it"

[lusty grotto]

☝️

[south lantern]

Was I toxic?

[stark ruin]

Yey

[south lantern]

Did I insult anyone?

[chilly brook]

And saying this shit is bad because it says its last

[stark ruin]

Yes

[sweet summit]

you came off as a bit toxic in my eyes

[south lantern]

If I did, please post the toxic comment I said.

[strong forum]

being ignorant can count as toxic

ykno

[chilly brook]

You came off as a dude who isn't here to learn

[south lantern]

How is ignorant and toxic related at all?

[chilly brook]

And as someone who knows better

[south lantern]

There is no correlation

Ignorant means unaware.

[chilly brook]

Which you are

[stark ruin]

And this is one of the friendliest class discords

[south lantern]

I am unaware sure.

[warm plinth]

For M+, you want Bastion x3, DC x1, and optimally you'd want two Meticulous Scheming or Heart of Darkness.

[south lantern]

But not toxic

[strong forum]

ignorant can also mean willingly ignoring it

[chilly brook]

You can be both ignorant and toxic

[strong forum]

which is toxic

[south lantern]

So why do I deserve toxic behavior

[lusty grotto]

who gives a flying fuck about toxicity lmao

this is the internet

its 2020

holy shit lmao

literally said toxic 200 times in the last minute

[chilly brook]

Imagine kicking someone else when they try to help you and then crying about being kicked while they kick back

[warm plinth]

Not a productive conversation btw. Not even sure how the conversation got to here exactly. I read through and it's like people were getting gradually more touchy over the course of it.

For no reason

[south lantern]

If it’s so annoying to you that I don’t understand something, why not just ignore me?

[lusty grotto]

toxic toxic toxic toxic toxic toxic toxic toxic toxic toxic toxic toxic toxic toxic toxic toxic

[south lantern]

Why lash out with toxicity

[lusty grotto]

201

[south lantern]

Is that going to help someone learn? Calling them a retard? Lol

[jaunty aspen]

simply tell us what your going to tackle

[south lantern]

When your guildies screw up in raid do you tell them they have aspergers?

[sweet summit]

mate, we've answered your question. you dont have to lash out like that, itsok

[chilly brook]

Its annoying when you attempt to help someone learn and they continually show no intent to take it

[strong forum]

yes miikey

we do

[south lantern]

Lol must be a fun raiding environment

[lusty grotto]

safe space raider

i suppose

[strong forum]

yes it very much is

[lusty grotto]

holy shit lmao

[sweet summit]

my guild is giga toxic and i love it

[strong forum]

same

[chilly brook]

Not telling people they fucked up gets you stuck in a guild who can barely do pug content

[strong forum]

safe space raiding doesnt work in mythic imo

[south lantern]

“X has died.”
“X you must have Down syndrome. How can you be so fucking stupid to die to that?”

[strong forum]

yes

exactly

[lusty grotto]

Gee golly Miikey, could you mayhaps not mess up the pull? Aw shucks

[strong forum]

should i share a clip from BoD?

[south lantern]

“X if you do that again, you are getting gkicked.”

[warm plinth]

Why is this chat devolving?

[strong forum]

no idea

[lusty grotto]

because im here

and i bring the toxicity

😄

[chilly brook]

If you fuck up at work do you not get called out on it in some way shape or form?

[strong forum]

https://clips.twitch.tv/CooperativeResilientDelicataNotATK

[south lantern]

What do you guys say to your guildies who die to breath on Vexiona?

[strong forum]

this is my raid environment

listen to the clip

thats 100% how raiding should be

[chilly brook]

If you die to breath on vex omegalul

[south lantern]

“YOU PIECE OF SHIT GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE GUILD DYING TO BREATH”

[chilly brook]

Open your eyes and look around

[south lantern]

“But I lagged”

[lusty grotto]

people that die to vexiona's breath are such doofuses

[south lantern]

“You clearly have autism”

[lusty grotto]

You're a doofus!

[strong forum]

just listen to the clip

[sweet summit]

"YOU NNN--- STUPID IMBACILE BRO"
LMFAO

[jaunty aspen]

jesus christ stop the bickering you want help or not=?

[chilly brook]

Play stupid games win stupid prizes @south lantern

[lusty grotto]

kekeke

[south lantern]

I’m not toxic. I’m having fun with this

[lusty grotto]

202

[south lantern]

I don’t retaliate

[chilly brook]

I think you should rename to miikey404

[lusty grotto]

drkreven you better not play a fucking warlock in classic and be botting AV

[south lantern]

Sticks and stones may break my bones...

[strong forum]

the classic bamboozle "hahah i was joking all along"

[chilly brook]

Hit that error404 brain not found

[strong forum]

ohno people are going off now

fully

[sweet summit]

ay bois

[south lantern]

My brain is doing ok

[sweet summit]

stop

[strong forum]

kekw

[sweet summit]

just leave it

[south lantern]

Just had some coffee 🙂

[lusty grotto]

toxicity, sticks and stones may break my bones

...

🤷‍♂️

[chilly brook]

Like legit this is the friendliest class discord

[south lantern]

I can tell

[lusty grotto]

i take offense in that

[south lantern]

So much friendly going around 🙂

[stark ruin]

Tied with the brm one imho

[jaunty aspen]

lol friendliest discord of bloodthirsty warriors

[lusty grotto]

you have insulted my honor griff

fite me

[stark ruin]

Veng dh discord is a shitshow

[sweet summit]

dh discord is just like that lmao

[chilly brook]

Tbh mikey you go into any class discord and start acting like you know everything because you looked at the guide and people will meme on you

[ionic fern]

👀

Who's monging

[sweet summit]

nim

[south lantern]

I’m in the warlock discord and haven’t had any issues.

[sweet summit]

[south lantern]

I regularly help new players who have questions.

[sick sentinel]

mwahi

[jaunty aspen]

wl´s pah

[sick sentinel]

gib storm forge

[ionic fern]

What

Take it.

[sick sentinel]

plz

[sweet summit]

giv de man yellow

[sick sentinel]

@ late

gib him your compliments

[chilly brook]

How many times have you told people in the warlock discord that no other traits are worth taking if they're not the number 1 on the guide

[ionic fern]

[south lantern]

Well warlock is pretty cut and dry this tier so all the time.

[undone sun]

[chilly brook]

Right this is going to go no where so I'll just see myself out

[south lantern]

Nice chatting with you. Appreciate the advice anyway.

[chilly brook]

Shouldn't have tried to refresh the page

[ionic fern]

What am i even witnessing right now.

[chilly brook]

Still a 404error

[south lantern]

I respect that you think I’m a retard. You don’t have to answer my questions. I’m just here to learn.

And help others a

[sweet summit]

we did answer you, mate

[chilly brook]

Imagine taking that help

[south lantern]

And i appreciate the answers.

[jaunty aspen]

well i asked you a question you didnt reply

[south lantern]

Apologies, I didn’t see. The text was moving fast.

[jaunty aspen]

i wanted to know which content you plan on tackling

[south lantern]

M+ mainly.

[chilly brook]

So you dont want BFI lmao

[jaunty aspen]

then dont go bfi

[sweet summit]

BFI is big value

[ionic fern]

What are you comparing the BfI against?

[south lantern]

Iron fortress and the revenge trait

[jaunty aspen]

IF

[chilly brook]

I would go IF over BFI for m+

[lusty grotto]

you know on the topic of guild toxicity, you guys know what my guild's name is in classic?

[chilly brook]

No I dont

[south lantern]

Would you run even one BFI?

[chilly brook]

I was never in it at all

[lusty grotto]

yeah you do griff shut up

[south lantern]

Or is BFI completely weak in m+?

[jaunty aspen]

go as much offensive aoe as you can survive in your content you play

[ionic fern]

It's not completely weak in m+.

[chilly brook]

It's fine in m+

[lusty grotto]

its <wild bandicoons> we cant stream on twitch cause its not accepted 😢

[chilly brook]

But in m+ regardless like @jaunty aspen said go offensive as much as possible

[south lantern]

Gotcha.

[lusty grotto]

we gotta do shit like <wild bandc> in stream titles

[south lantern]

I’ll reforge tonight, thanks.

[chilly brook]

Defensive traits aren't going to save you in m+

[jaunty aspen]

td r3 iss really nice

[chilly brook]

But it's also more nuanced than just take x or take y

[south lantern]

For corruptions in m+ 2x twilight devastation is optimal?

[jaunty aspen]

depends

[lusty grotto]

@ionic fern i have a question

[chilly brook]

Dependent on your group defensive traits might be the better option

[ionic fern]

I got a lot of questions.

[lusty grotto]

did you feed lincoln

[ionic fern]

No.

He's a bad cat.

[chilly brook]

Which is why knowing why different traits are valuable is important

[lusty grotto]

also what are we simming on now?

[ionic fern]

wdym

[south lantern]

I see

[lusty grotto]

cause riki was like WHAT IS THIS 10 PATCHWERK YOURE SAYING

[ionic fern]

🤔

<- 100% confused.

[lusty grotto]

back in s2

we did multiple patchwerks

for M+ sims iirc

[ionic fern]

Okay..?👀

[lusty grotto]

or at least that was the go to

[ionic fern]

If you are asking if there's a more precise model for m+ simming currently - then no, there isn't.

Dungeon Slice is the same as it was before.

[lusty grotto]

yeah but back then dungeon slice was very recent